Another super helpful guide. I didn't know i was sabotaging myself by destroying the 2 bomb weapons she have since that just allows her to go to the harder phase.
Glad it was helpful! Though if you wanted to destroy both wings, there is a way to avoid the teleport phase. I made a video featuring that here: ruclips.net/video/W0LCyIFAuiI/видео.html
Full cleared it 1st try after unlocking Interception Ex. Thanks for the strats, huge help. Luckily had Noise, and just like you said did the switcheroo when missiles were fired.
@@SquishyRollingPanda you know what, I used to hate Modernia SI same like Alteisen because I cant destroy the core fast enough until I found out must skip animation when Modernia appears & clear it on first try lol
I think this has been around the korean community for a couple months now, i remember seeing a video of a guy doing it a while back. But I'll tell you, you don't need a tank at all. You don't need noise. when she shoots the missiles just tap full cover with the same timing and anybody with a normal hitbox will dodge it. I've been doing this with no tank for months on my phone in portrait mode. my comp is pepper, privaty, scarlet, rupee, and modernia
I featured something similar to what you described in my first Nikke video back in January, that had no Noise. I simply popped in and out of cover to dodge: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html My only issue is that it wasn't a consistent , as the bombs can land at slightly different speeds. But it's definitely viable - I just showed my cleanest attempt and deleted all the failed ones 😂 Noise just makes it more forgiving, since she can heal up any mistakes and losing her doesn't impact the overall DPS by much
@@SquishyRollingPanda Ah i see, yeah i run the pepper+privaty combo to heal up in case i flub for sure. Though I usually get it on my first attempt nowadays, though there was definitely a good deal of practice involved at the beginning.
Nice - the mag reduction from Privaty and last bullet heal from Pepper is a smart combo! And we all have higher level equipment now, compared to back then, which helps tremendously. Glad we all have ways of beating these bosses!
I first saw this kind of strat on some random video on my feed here in YT. I noticed that they take cover when the missiles are coming near to your Nikke, merely a second or less I think. Then I try to copy that and it works but sometimes I failed to dodge, it as it takes time to perfect it. My friend also confirmed it to me too that the Nikke must be in attack position then take cover as the missiles come for you to dodge. Now modernia is the easiest SI boss for me. Hehe PS. I think you don't need Noise here, any Nikke will do or I suggest bring more DPS or passive friendly ones. For me I bring Helm here for sustainability because of her burst. Anyways thanks for the detailed explanation here now I fully understand why. Hahaha
Yeah, it took a lot of practice and precise timing when I first faced her. My first Nikke video actually features what you described: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html This was back when I had no Noise and low damage LOL 100% agree - you don't actually need Noise if you're confident in your damage. One of my friends does it with a full team of DPS instead. Noise acts as a lifeline for me
I actually post a video on one of my first clears for Modernia (hope you don't mind me posting a link here hehe) ruclips.net/video/jmsIfCNnB3s/видео.html You can see there how often I got hit by the missiles. But as we both say it takes time and practice to improve your gameplay on that boss. Maybe I'll record my run later and post it again to see how much I improved since last month. Hahaha. Anyways more guides to come from you and more luck also in-game(recruit/pull). 😉
I tried this today and two things happened: -All of my Nikkes stopped attacking except for my currently active one and Liter on the first slot. -The bombs stopped doing damage 8/9 clear 'cuz I ran out of time, but also first time I ever got past 5 or 6 lol....
Congrats on getting all the way up to 8! Hoping you full clear next time! I have heard of the odd occurrence when some players switch Nikkes, the AI-controlled ones stops shooting for a bit. Definitely hope the devs fix this in the upcoming patch. But the bombs not doing damage is 100% intentional 😂
Yeah, destroying the head after 1 laser only is pretty much a DPS check. The only workaround I can think of is using someone like Noah to tank the second laser But if it takes that long to destroy the head, I doubt the same team has enough DPS to beat Modernia in time or not trigger her teleportation phase
Honestly you don't need noise, you can easily destroy 3 bomb and tank other, or can use i frame with anyone, once bomb on half way just take cover, and if you are unsure about survival, just bring helm(or any other healer).
Yeah, it took a lot of practice and when I first tried dodging Modernia without Noise. My first Nikke video actually features what you described: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html This was back when I had no Noise and low damage LOL And totally agree - you don't need Noise if you're confident in your DPS output, or you can grab a healer instead. One of my friends does it with a full team of DPS. I prefer Noise, since she acts as a lifeline for me 😊
@@SquishyRollingPanda noise it good, by new player can lose damage, i can only clear it when last 5~10 sec remain, so i can't bring noise, simply because Helm both attack and heal, but as you said, if dps are good and strong then Noise is better and she save time.
D or Snow White can be possible methods to break her core! I'll be releasing a video featuring D VS Modernia soon And no, after the core is broken, no more OP lasers to worry about
Absolutely! I am currently editing and putting the finishing touches for my Nihilister, stage 20-31 video. I'll be releasing it this week (aiming for the 29th, 3PM EST) - just before her Liberation debut. Please look forward to it!
@@ianlee0800 personally, I don't think modernia play a huge roles on 20-31. Her fireball attack is not that deadly so you didn't really need to destroy them as long as you have a healer and someone that can maintain cover *the rest is technically an dps check hence it's kinda depend on your account
My playthrough does use Modernia (and unfortunately, we can't replay levels), but echoing what Daniel AK mentioned - I don't think you need her. It's more a matter of bringing your best DPS and understanding Nihilister's attack patterns. An AOE burst Nikke can be helpful for the last phase or you can just tank the damage
I noticed she didn't enter a phase where she teleports all over the place while launching missiles towards your team. How do I prevent her from entering that phase? Thanks in advance! Also subbed. :)
Thank you! You can prevent her from entering this phase by ensuring that she at least has 1 wing alive But if you did want/need to destroy both things, I have a guide that shows you how to do it and prevent her from teleporting: ruclips.net/video/W0LCyIFAuiI/видео.html
If you're using Modernia, make sure to equip the assault cube (hit rate increase). This will trigger her latter half of skill 2 (increase ATK by "X%") But to destroy the core, I recommend using Laplace's burst instead, as she does more damage to boss parts. Make sure her burst is levelled up. As an alternative, Snow White's burst can also work
I would recommend following my other, "no Noise" guide here: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html Sub Pepper for Liter and Privaty for Noise. As mentioned in Herogaze's comment, having Pepper (to heal) + Privaty, can make up for any damage you might take
Kinda worked for me. The i-frame mechanic is still so fucking stupid. Very hard to do even on PC, and then sometimes the NIKKE gets stuck in animation for some reason. I wish they gave Custom Modules on lvl 8, lvl 9 is just insane
It takes a bit before getting the timing down - heck, sometimes I still mess it up! The most reliable way is to destroy any bombs you can, via: AOE bursts, or charged RL basic attacks and to dodge (+ heal up in case of any the get through) whatever is left
If you don't have Noise and still want to learn how to dodge the bombs, check out my video here: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html
THIS IS HUGE BRO THANKS A LOT
Another super helpful guide. I didn't know i was sabotaging myself by destroying the 2 bomb weapons she have since that just allows her to go to the harder phase.
Glad it was helpful! Though if you wanted to destroy both wings, there is a way to avoid the teleport phase. I made a video featuring that here: ruclips.net/video/W0LCyIFAuiI/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda i haven't reached there yet, im sure I'll be watching it when i get there eventually tho.
Thanks for the tips. I can clear this one with no issues now.
Great job! Thanks for watching 😃
wow this tech was so useful, just unlocked SI and was able to get to stage 8 on modernia with a few retries. these videos are great
Full cleared it 1st try after unlocking Interception Ex. Thanks for the strats, huge help. Luckily had Noise, and just like you said did the switcheroo when missiles were fired.
Amazing, glad that tip helped! 👍
That was awesome! I'm glad I can clear it without using i-frame and I'm Noiseless 😢
Awesome you can clear it! You must have some strong DPS/healers 💪
@@SquishyRollingPanda you know what, I used to hate Modernia SI same like Alteisen because I cant destroy the core fast enough until I found out must skip animation when Modernia appears & clear it on first try lol
I think this has been around the korean community for a couple months now, i remember seeing a video of a guy doing it a while back.
But I'll tell you, you don't need a tank at all. You don't need noise. when she shoots the missiles just tap full cover with the same timing and anybody with a normal hitbox will dodge it.
I've been doing this with no tank for months on my phone in portrait mode. my comp is pepper, privaty, scarlet, rupee, and modernia
I featured something similar to what you described in my first Nikke video back in January, that had no Noise. I simply popped in and out of cover to dodge: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html
My only issue is that it wasn't a consistent , as the bombs can land at slightly different speeds. But it's definitely viable - I just showed my cleanest attempt and deleted all the failed ones 😂
Noise just makes it more forgiving, since she can heal up any mistakes and losing her doesn't impact the overall DPS by much
@@SquishyRollingPanda Ah i see, yeah i run the pepper+privaty combo to heal up in case i flub for sure. Though I usually get it on my first attempt nowadays, though there was definitely a good deal of practice involved at the beginning.
Nice - the mag reduction from Privaty and last bullet heal from Pepper is a smart combo!
And we all have higher level equipment now, compared to back then, which helps tremendously. Glad we all have ways of beating these bosses!
I first saw this kind of strat on some random video on my feed here in YT. I noticed that they take cover when the missiles are coming near to your Nikke, merely a second or less I think. Then I try to copy that and it works but sometimes I failed to dodge, it as it takes time to perfect it. My friend also confirmed it to me too that the Nikke must be in attack position then take cover as the missiles come for you to dodge. Now modernia is the easiest SI boss for me. Hehe
PS. I think you don't need Noise here, any Nikke will do or I suggest bring more DPS or passive friendly ones. For me I bring Helm here for sustainability because of her burst.
Anyways thanks for the detailed explanation here now I fully understand why. Hahaha
Yeah, it took a lot of practice and precise timing when I first faced her. My first Nikke video actually features what you described: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html
This was back when I had no Noise and low damage LOL
100% agree - you don't actually need Noise if you're confident in your damage. One of my friends does it with a full team of DPS instead. Noise acts as a lifeline for me
I actually post a video on one of my first clears for Modernia (hope you don't mind me posting a link here hehe) ruclips.net/video/jmsIfCNnB3s/видео.html
You can see there how often I got hit by the missiles. But as we both say it takes time and practice to improve your gameplay on that boss. Maybe I'll record my run later and post it again to see how much I improved since last month. Hahaha. Anyways more guides to come from you and more luck also in-game(recruit/pull). 😉
Since it relates to the topic, I don't mind! Thats a really good clear at ~78k CP!
The first time I clear modernia special interception is actually use this noise i-frame dodge.. but not as quick as this one though xD
I tried this today and two things happened:
-All of my Nikkes stopped attacking except for my currently active one and Liter on the first slot.
-The bombs stopped doing damage
8/9 clear 'cuz I ran out of time, but also first time I ever got past 5 or 6 lol....
Congrats on getting all the way up to 8! Hoping you full clear next time!
I have heard of the odd occurrence when some players switch Nikkes, the AI-controlled ones stops shooting for a bit. Definitely hope the devs fix this in the upcoming patch. But the bombs not doing damage is 100% intentional 😂
Sadly Modernia is the hardest for me. The second laser can't be blocked with cover.
Yeah, destroying the head after 1 laser only is pretty much a DPS check. The only workaround I can think of is using someone like Noah to tank the second laser
But if it takes that long to destroy the head, I doubt the same team has enough DPS to beat Modernia in time or not trigger her teleportation phase
I this tip still relevant? Cause after the updates I’m a bit skeptical if I could pull this off.
Yes, it still works 😊
@@SquishyRollingPanda ok thank you.
Honestly you don't need noise, you can easily destroy 3 bomb and tank other, or can use i frame with anyone, once bomb on half way just take cover, and if you are unsure about survival, just bring helm(or any other healer).
Yeah, it took a lot of practice and when I first tried dodging Modernia without Noise. My first Nikke video actually features what you described: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html
This was back when I had no Noise and low damage LOL
And totally agree - you don't need Noise if you're confident in your DPS output, or you can grab a healer instead. One of my friends does it with a full team of DPS. I prefer Noise, since she acts as a lifeline for me 😊
@@SquishyRollingPanda noise it good, by new player can lose damage, i can only clear it when last 5~10 sec remain, so i can't bring noise, simply because Helm both attack and heal, but as you said, if dps are good and strong then Noise is better and she save time.
I'm too dumb to beat her. Maybe with a better lineup like snowwhite
Does she uses the pain-in-the-ass-laser after her core is down?
D or Snow White can be possible methods to break her core! I'll be releasing a video featuring D VS Modernia soon
And no, after the core is broken, no more OP lasers to worry about
Ever gonna make a how to for ch20 boss?
Absolutely! I am currently editing and putting the finishing touches for my Nihilister, stage 20-31 video. I'll be releasing it this week (aiming for the 29th, 3PM EST) - just before her Liberation debut. Please look forward to it!
@@SquishyRollingPanda sincerely hoping there will be a guide without Modernia!
@@ianlee0800 personally, I don't think modernia play a huge roles on 20-31. Her fireball attack is not that deadly so you didn't really need to destroy them as long as you have a healer and someone that can maintain cover
*the rest is technically an dps check hence it's kinda depend on your account
My playthrough does use Modernia (and unfortunately, we can't replay levels), but echoing what Daniel AK mentioned - I don't think you need her. It's more a matter of bringing your best DPS and understanding Nihilister's attack patterns. An AOE burst Nikke can be helpful for the last phase or you can just tank the damage
This is hilarious. This looks like a glitch if I ever saw one. Once this gets around, they will definitely fix this bug eventually.
LOL, my jaw dropped when I saw my friends do this live in front of me. But let's just call this a feature 😉
It's used on train and other bosses for awhile now
it’s a feature not a bug ya donkey 💀
I noticed she didn't enter a phase where she teleports all over the place while launching missiles towards your team. How do I prevent her from entering that phase? Thanks in advance! Also subbed. :)
Thank you! You can prevent her from entering this phase by ensuring that she at least has 1 wing alive
But if you did want/need to destroy both things, I have a guide that shows you how to do it and prevent her from teleporting: ruclips.net/video/W0LCyIFAuiI/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda Got it! thanks again. :)
I can't destroy the core fast enough using Modernia and Laplace... Any tips? I'm using T8 gear at max level
If you're using Modernia, make sure to equip the assault cube (hit rate increase). This will trigger her latter half of skill 2 (increase ATK by "X%")
But to destroy the core, I recommend using Laplace's burst instead, as she does more damage to boss parts. Make sure her burst is levelled up. As an alternative, Snow White's burst can also work
I dont have liter - noise, wich others can I use?
I would recommend following my other, "no Noise" guide here: ruclips.net/video/Pd1Nsgj1I9k/видео.html
Sub Pepper for Liter and Privaty for Noise.
As mentioned in Herogaze's comment, having Pepper (to heal) + Privaty, can make up for any damage you might take
Kinda worked for me.
The i-frame mechanic is still so fucking stupid. Very hard to do even on PC, and then sometimes the NIKKE gets stuck in animation for some reason. I wish they gave Custom Modules on lvl 8, lvl 9 is just insane
It takes a bit before getting the timing down - heck, sometimes I still mess it up!
The most reliable way is to destroy any bombs you can, via: AOE bursts, or charged RL basic attacks and to dodge (+ heal up in case of any the get through) whatever is left
wait...THERES I-FRAMES?
Haha yes, iframing/dodging. I feature this technique against Alteisen as well in some of my other videos