your channel is bound to grow once the community catches wind of how detailed your vids are. these boss vids are just what we need at this late game season of Nikke. Thx so much. New sub right here as well.
Amazing! I was counting shots before. But knowing about the shots being slightly to the left and right helps to identify when to attack and cover much easier.
Thank you so much!! After so much grind and many retries, today I finally beat train full clear!!! it took me over two weeks from stage 3-4 to finally clear it I used Noise, Sakura, Viper, Modernia, and Laplace
It took me a few tries before I got the technique and timing down, but I beleive in you! Nothing a bit of practice can't fix Although if you have Biscuit and Noah, dodging perfectly is not necessary. You can check out my video on that here: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Here are some alternative guides that might be helpful: Noise + Diesel: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html&lc For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below! Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
After watching this one I reached Level 8 from just level 4. I guess it takes a lot of practice when doing the Noise i-frame since you still need to do it. Thanks for uploading this one! At least I know that I just have work on the DPS! ♥
Glad you got all the way to level 8, from 4! If you do want a no- alternative and have Noah & Biscuit, you can check out my other video: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html I'll also be doing some testing with Sakura tonight!
Makima has worked for some people, but it requires very specific control of when Makima starts to taunt (as she needs to fire her entire mag) After some testing last night, Sakura + Ludmilla will be a viable strategy as well. The team needs to full burst right before the green missiles fire, with Sakura as the B1 burst
Nice vid, putting Noise to the far right has helped me visually detect which side to "move" her to avoid dmg. Sadly you didn't explain how to dodge the turrets, which is what I was looking for
Thanks! The part with the turrets is something that I am still working on - will be experimenting more tonight and hope to publish a revised video once I have a consistent solution!
Not sure if you already found a different strategy, but I released a new guide ~2 weeks ago, using Diesel to tank the turrets: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
Even when i manage the timing for dodging missiles, turrets still kill Noise. And my DPS isn't high enough to destroy them before they kill Noise. What am i supposed to do about it?
The only thing that comes to mind, is to proc Noise's taunt skill earlier (I.e. Make sure Noise doesn't taunt too late, since it lasts for 2 secs). And hope that turret RNG targets a different Nikke instead You can also try tailoring your comp towards survivability, such as Crow for her skill 2 (decrease enemy ATK by x% upon full burst)
@@DaVinciRekt It's quite difficult to dodge the turrets unfortunately. Involves swapping attack/defense pose right between the flashing red rings and when it hits you How I usually try to get past this phase is to destroy 1 turret, right when it starts to fire - this ensures that the second turret only does "half damage"
@@SquishyRollingPanda so you don't actually use the cover/ uncover right? Or one or two times? I saw some videos about the cover uncover thing, it seems you have to cover when the turret fires, and then uncover almost inmediatly..right?
Bro I feel so dumb for not being able to see through the missile attack pattern. I get overstimulated by the amount of green light before i can accurately deduce the amounts of shots and their trajectory. The first phase is really the most annoying with Thomas the Engine...
There's totally a lot of things happening at any given time during battles haha. Especially with bursts as well (such as Scarlet with the brief black screen), anyone would have a hard time track f anything
This does NOT work I have tried for 3 months and not Even today i could not do it. Noise dies in the first Green lasers, the taunt kills her This is the only interception Boss i cant complete
I think all this video has done is make me feel like an idiot, My entire team is very well geared and I just dont get how to do the I-frame tech what so ever. I can only get to 3 and at this point I would be happy at 4 on this boss lol
I believe in you - you can do it! The pattern can be a bit hard to follow visually, so it might be easier to track via audio. One commenter mentioned turning off the music, to make the sound effects more prominent! Failing that, you can also observe if the green missiles are tracking left/right of your character to help i-frame it (2:46)
The Goddamn thing is so hard for me to do bruh, so many attempts and I still can't get it. So many retries and everything. I don't know if it's something wrong I'm doing, or it's just something else that makes it not work.
In short, the last patch inadvertently changed how taunting works, but it will be reverted. Essentially, once the red circles appear, the enemy has already locked on to a target and it will not change, regardless of any taunt mechanics. Previously, you can use taunt right up to the point before the projectiles are fired. Devs will be fixing this
Glad to hear that you got some better rewards! Any high DPS output can replace her: Laplace or Modernia are my 2 top choices. Snow White also works, especially if you can aim her burst to hit 3 boss parts concurrently.
The turrets are definitely more tricky here. I've had some, (but inconsistent) success i-framing the turrets when the red circles appear or are flashing. The best way to power through this phase is to focus on destroying the turrets first vs missile launcher, since it's much easier to i-frame the missiles. If there are any new techniques I learn, I'll be sure to post an update - this phase is giving me the most trouble as well!
@@SquishyRollingPanda the turrets you need to i frame them hen they start to blink, take cover with noise almost at the last blink and then just go full ham cause the turrets just gonna pass and not dmg you, nor the cover too, yeah, its hard.
Noah is the best alternative to taunt the missiles, as she has a similar skill where a fully charged attack taunts them. An alternative is using Nikkes such as Ludmilla/Diesel taunt the missiles. The only issue is that this relies on their burst skills, which have a very long cool down. You can probably clear up to phase 3-5 rewards, but unfortunately won't be able to full clear. The upcoming banner with Biscuit (from the Bow Wow Paradise event) should be able to offer a new way to tank missiles and turrets, making this boss fight much easier. I also just uploaded my full clear guide for Alteisen here: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html Unless you have really high DPS (and also use the REALLY widescreen trick), it is going to be very tough to survive the missile phase without Noise.
@@purutine5087 Yep, very similar timing. @Da Vinci Rekt provided a bit more detail in their comment as well. But overall, agreed, this boss requires the most DPS. The first challenge is surviving, the second is getting enough DPS to destroy everything
Yes, absolutely - the Noise i-frame technique can be performed on any platform or device. The advantage of playing via emulator on landscape, is so that the boss visible (and attackable) at the ~1:40 mark. I believe playing on portrait (regardless of mobile or emulator), it gets cut off and you are unable to aim at the boss for a few seconds.
@@Gink01 I usually have aim assist on, at around ~50. This is my default setting for all levels, since it helps me consistently aim at the core. But it's totally optional for this specific boss
Hmm maybe I can use Noah instead since I dont have Noise? Also thank you for the missiles count you were right tracking them through the sfx is better than to look at them, will try it next time it comes. Thank you!
During my run today, I lost count of the missiles since the "Full Burst" text shows up and obscures them. I sometimes use the alternative method shown at 02:46 instead. Hope this helps! It took me more than a few tries to get the pattern down, but I'm sure that you'll get it eventually as well! Definitely the hardest boss out of the five on rotation.
Do you think laplace will work fine to replace scarlet? I dont have her, but laplace element is disavantage againts "Train from the hell". Any tips bruh?
Yes, Laplace is fine as well. In fact, I used her for this week's Ateisen run. The elemental buff is relatively small, so it shouldn't make a difference. Drake is also a pretty good pick if you have her (solid DPS, good skill 1 team buff)
Ok, I somehow managed to do it on PC client. But there is no way to keep Noise alive even after ML is destroyed bc two turrets will kill her for sure 🥲 Also turning off the music helps to "hear" the ML's attacks. *sign* I think 6-tier reward are not bad result for this damn train.
If you recently got access to special interception, it's very difficult to make any progress on Alteisen. But I have some helpful team comps, aimed towards newer players that can help: Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html Diesel + Noise: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
UPDATE: Watch my new full clear Alteisen guide: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
It offers 2 methods to get past the turret attack phase!
your channel is bound to grow once the community catches wind of how detailed your vids are. these boss vids are just what we need at this late game season of Nikke. Thx so much. New sub right here as well.
Appreciate your kind comments - video editing is new to me, so I'm glad the message is still getting across. Thank you!
Amazing! I was counting shots before. But knowing about the shots being slightly to the left and right helps to identify when to attack and cover much easier.
Thank you so much!!
After so much grind and many retries, today I finally beat train full clear!!!
it took me over two weeks from stage 3-4 to finally clear it
I used Noise, Sakura, Viper, Modernia, and Laplace
Glad you got the full clear! 💪
Great guide and explanation! Just for future reference, the interception bgm in the video was kinda loud as you were explaining haha
Thank you and really appreciate the feedback! I'll turn the BGM down next time!
I struggle with this boss...I can't figured out the dodge technique
It took me a few tries before I got the technique and timing down, but I beleive in you! Nothing a bit of practice can't fix
Although if you have Biscuit and Noah, dodging perfectly is not necessary. You can check out my video on that here: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
I have Noah..
@@WOLFMANF14DFIGHTER If you also have Biscuit, my guide on Biscuit + Noah against Alteisen should help! ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Great video man! You got a new sub! I hope your channel grows even more!
Thank you and appreciate the sub!
Great guide
Glad it was helpful!
thx for the tips on that god damn turret ! :D
Here are some alternative guides that might be helpful:
Noise + Diesel: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html&lc
For my alternative Alteisen full clear guides with no iframing needed, check out the below!
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
After watching this one I reached Level 8 from just level 4. I guess it takes a lot of practice when doing the Noise i-frame since you still need to do it. Thanks for uploading this one! At least I know that I just have work on the DPS! ♥
Glad you got all the way to level 8, from 4!
If you do want a no- alternative and have Noah & Biscuit, you can check out my other video: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
I'll also be doing some testing with Sakura tonight!
@@SquishyRollingPanda I wanted to try this but I don't have Noah D: . Do you have any suggestion as to who I can replace for Noah? Thanks
Makima has worked for some people, but it requires very specific control of when Makima starts to taunt (as she needs to fire her entire mag)
After some testing last night, Sakura + Ludmilla will be a viable strategy as well. The team needs to full burst right before the green missiles fire, with Sakura as the B1 burst
My clear is about to go from stage 5 to 8 hopefully
Rooting for ya!
Thank You. I got 7 today thanks to this technique.
Amazing - hope you can full clear it soon!
Nice vid, putting Noise to the far right has helped me visually detect which side to "move" her to avoid dmg. Sadly you didn't explain how to dodge the turrets, which is what I was looking for
Thanks! The part with the turrets is something that I am still working on - will be experimenting more tonight and hope to publish a revised video once I have a consistent solution!
Not sure if you already found a different strategy, but I released a new guide ~2 weeks ago, using Diesel to tank the turrets: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda Thanks for the reply but I already quit the game hehe
@@Kusanagi2k Aw, alright. Hope you found something better!
Even when i manage the timing for dodging missiles, turrets still kill Noise.
And my DPS isn't high enough to destroy them before they kill Noise.
What am i supposed to do about it?
The only thing that comes to mind, is to proc Noise's taunt skill earlier (I.e. Make sure Noise doesn't taunt too late, since it lasts for 2 secs). And hope that turret RNG targets a different Nikke instead
You can also try tailoring your comp towards survivability, such as Crow for her skill 2 (decrease enemy ATK by x% upon full burst)
@@SquishyRollingPanda how you manage to dodge turrets tho? They kill my noise everytime
@@DaVinciRekt It's quite difficult to dodge the turrets unfortunately. Involves swapping attack/defense pose right between the flashing red rings and when it hits you
How I usually try to get past this phase is to destroy 1 turret, right when it starts to fire - this ensures that the second turret only does "half damage"
@@SquishyRollingPanda so you don't actually use the cover/ uncover right? Or one or two times? I saw some videos about the cover uncover thing, it seems you have to cover when the turret fires, and then uncover almost inmediatly..right?
@@DaVinciRekt Yep, attack/defend = uncover/cover. The timing is very very narrow, since the bullets are nearly hitscan
Bro I feel so dumb for not being able to see through the missile attack pattern. I get overstimulated by the amount of green light before i can accurately deduce the amounts of shots and their trajectory. The first phase is really the most annoying with Thomas the Engine...
There's totally a lot of things happening at any given time during battles haha. Especially with bursts as well (such as Scarlet with the brief black screen), anyone would have a hard time track f anything
This does NOT work
I have tried for 3 months and not Even today i could not do it.
Noise dies in the first Green lasers, the taunt kills her
This is the only interception Boss i cant complete
The dodging technique works, but the timing is quite tricky to get down. I've put together some other teams against Alteisen, hope they can help you!
Is there anyone I can replace for Scarlett cause I don’t have her
Red hood is looking to be a very solid choice! Else a built Alice is the next best DPS
but my Noise keeps ketting fked by the turrets, it's useless
I'm just focusing all my damage on killing the turrets ASAP. Somehow made it to phase 2 of the fight and got to level 8!
I think all this video has done is make me feel like an idiot, My entire team is very well geared and I just dont get how to do the I-frame tech what so ever. I can only get to 3 and at this point I would be happy at 4 on this boss lol
I believe in you - you can do it!
The pattern can be a bit hard to follow visually, so it might be easier to track via audio. One commenter mentioned turning off the music, to make the sound effects more prominent!
Failing that, you can also observe if the green missiles are tracking left/right of your character to help i-frame it (2:46)
The Goddamn thing is so hard for me to do bruh, so many attempts and I still can't get it. So many retries and everything. I don't know if it's something wrong I'm doing, or it's just something else that makes it not work.
In short, the last patch inadvertently changed how taunting works, but it will be reverted. Essentially, once the red circles appear, the enemy has already locked on to a target and it will not change, regardless of any taunt mechanics.
Previously, you can use taunt right up to the point before the projectiles are fired. Devs will be fixing this
thomas the tank engine's turrets are definitely a pain in the ass. Haven't even gotten to the 2nd checkpoint ;-;
I could keep practicing this but I just pulled SW… soooo… I’ll go that route kek
Lucky! A charged shot placed correctly can hit 3 different boss parts at the same time
manage to survive to stage 4 wher i mostly only end at stage 2 without using this skill, who can replace Scarlett?
Glad to hear that you got some better rewards!
Any high DPS output can replace her: Laplace or Modernia are my 2 top choices. Snow White also works, especially if you can aim her burst to hit 3 boss parts concurrently.
Yo homie how do i dodge the turrets. They keep killing me while im tryna dodge the last 4 missles. Im desperate Pls save me
The turrets are definitely more tricky here. I've had some, (but inconsistent) success i-framing the turrets when the red circles appear or are flashing.
The best way to power through this phase is to focus on destroying the turrets first vs missile launcher, since it's much easier to i-frame the missiles. If there are any new techniques I learn, I'll be sure to post an update - this phase is giving me the most trouble as well!
@@SquishyRollingPanda the turrets you need to i frame them hen they start to blink, take cover with noise almost at the last blink and then just go full ham cause the turrets just gonna pass and not dmg you, nor the cover too, yeah, its hard.
@@DaVinciRekt Appreciate the tip!
Soo what do i do if i dont have noise...
Noah is the best alternative to taunt the missiles, as she has a similar skill where a fully charged attack taunts them.
An alternative is using Nikkes such as Ludmilla/Diesel taunt the missiles. The only issue is that this relies on their burst skills, which have a very long cool down. You can probably clear up to phase 3-5 rewards, but unfortunately won't be able to full clear. The upcoming banner with Biscuit (from the Bow Wow Paradise event) should be able to offer a new way to tank missiles and turrets, making this boss fight much easier.
I also just uploaded my full clear guide for Alteisen here: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
Unless you have really high DPS (and also use the REALLY widescreen trick), it is going to be very tough to survive the missile phase without Noise.
how do you evade the turret bruv
oh it works the same way... but still need more damage bruv... too tiring to evade with noise all the time
@@purutine5087 Yep, very similar timing. @Da Vinci Rekt provided a bit more detail in their comment as well.
But overall, agreed, this boss requires the most DPS. The first challenge is surviving, the second is getting enough DPS to destroy everything
Is this possible if played in the phone ?
Yes, absolutely - the Noise i-frame technique can be performed on any platform or device.
The advantage of playing via emulator on landscape, is so that the boss visible (and attackable) at the ~1:40 mark. I believe playing on portrait (regardless of mobile or emulator), it gets cut off and you are unable to aim at the boss for a few seconds.
@@SquishyRollingPanda also, are you using aim assist too ?
@@Gink01 I usually have aim assist on, at around ~50. This is my default setting for all levels, since it helps me consistently aim at the core.
But it's totally optional for this specific boss
Hmm maybe I can use Noah instead since I dont have Noise? Also thank you for the missiles count you were right tracking them through the sfx is better than to look at them, will try it next time it comes. Thank you!
You can definitely try out Noah - but she'll only keep the team alive for 1 burst cycle (since she has a 40 sec cooldown)
Man i just can't do the timing right hahaha
During my run today, I lost count of the missiles since the "Full Burst" text shows up and obscures them. I sometimes use the alternative method shown at 02:46 instead. Hope this helps!
It took me more than a few tries to get the pattern down, but I'm sure that you'll get it eventually as well! Definitely the hardest boss out of the five on rotation.
Do you think laplace will work fine to replace scarlet? I dont have her, but laplace element is disavantage againts "Train from the hell". Any tips bruh?
Yes, Laplace is fine as well. In fact, I used her for this week's Ateisen run. The elemental buff is relatively small, so it shouldn't make a difference.
Drake is also a pretty good pick if you have her (solid DPS, good skill 1 team buff)
Doesn't work :(
It might take a few attempts to get the timing down properly, but I'm sure you can do it!
Ok, I somehow managed to do it on PC client. But there is no way to keep Noise alive even after ML is destroyed bc two turrets will kill her for sure 🥲
Also turning off the music helps to "hear" the ML's attacks.
*sign* I think 6-tier reward are not bad result for this damn train.
@@MongolRGATA Turning off the music is an excellent tip!
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Please try using the auto translation captions!
F this boss i can't even pass phase 1😭😭
If you recently got access to special interception, it's very difficult to make any progress on Alteisen. But I have some helpful team comps, aimed towards newer players that can help:
Noah + BIscuit: ruclips.net/video/L5OC-WM78ms/видео.html
Ludmilla + Sakura: ruclips.net/video/ICTY2MXkjm8/видео.html
Diesel + Noise: ruclips.net/video/xyo8bJ_7HME/видео.html
@@SquishyRollingPanda is Makima viable for the taunt in comp because my noise and ludmilla not heavily invested😭
Makima is viable, when used alongside Biscuit. But it takes careful planning to trigger her burst
Naaa Shit Up are clowns for this one and Grave Digger.
These 2 were definitely a challenge for me to beat, long after I had access to special interception 🥲