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@@HardwareCanucks I found it very valuable to finally understand some of the important differences in these components. Wouldn't even mind one that's all expensive items
Is a very rare video where many of the things that "You've never heard of" are actually things that we weren't fully aware of. Love learning about neat little things like these, even if I have no use for them now.
ok, that USB to SATA cable is a god send. I have a crappier, more ghetto version, but yeah, holy smokes has it saved me while doing PC builds in the past.
I always keep a usb2 and 3 version around because they are so quick and versitile. If you've spent any time pushing ram to the limit or done any kind of XOC you'll know how easy it is to destroy your windows install, especially anything newer than W7. These offer a quick solution for imaging and restoring fully prepped OS's for each specific platform and work with whatever imaging software you use. Even Ghost32 from 2011 still works with all Windows builds, but I also use Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image if I need additional control. Also work great with a 500gb ssd where I keep all drivers, utilities and bios files so any problem I face can be fixed quickly
I'd do it. But in this environment, finding cool stuff that's actually NEW isn't easy at all. I don't want this to become another BS series of junk people already knew about and avoided....
I just ripped out a silverstone SFF PSU on a rebuild because the cables were too stiff to route well in my NR200P. Went with an evga because even though it just has traditional braided cables, they were so much easier to work with. Seeing these silverstone cables sold separately is a hilarious grift. Essentially "sure you paid a cool 150 for an otherwise mediocre PSU, now cough up another 30 funbux for something that we shoulda put in the box!". Yeah I think I'll look elsewhere from now on.
Thx for mentioning the SABRENT USB to SATA adapter. I own one, forgot I had it, and have yet to use it. I foolishly was still using an enclosure or bitlocker for the task
Oh this was awesome. One thing you might be interested in is noctua has physical switches that plug in to a normal electrical outlet for pwm fans, so if you’re building a fan for a cabinet with a pc/Xbox/ps/whatever in it you can tap a switch on/off in the cabinet.
VHB Tape for mounting small items and SDDs (no need for bulky drive cages, and more placement options); and PCIe x1 or x4 to NVMe cards - Sure its not using the full bandwith of the SSD, but comparable to SATA drives and can give extra storage in a neater form and doesn't need extra cables to be run (and most ATX boards will have at least one of these slots free!
Hey Mike, since you seem to be interested in the topic how about a video on 3d printed computer gadgets or 3d prints you have done that are related to computers. Also I have the noctua na-fd1 and it had less impact on temperature than I expected (1-2°C less) but it's pretty cheap and I have a bunch of the foam stuff left that I could use for another pc.
Like many comments before, this should be a weekly or monthly series. So much stuff out there that I didnt or dont know existed. Keep up the good work.
I used some small Noctua fans in my Lian Li pc-011 dynamic during my last build. The non-XL version of the case doesn't have a place for a fan in the rear of the case but it is vented with a bunch of round holes. I just bought two 60mm Noctua fans and mounted them with a single screw passing through the vent holes. They even disassemble easily enough to paint which is what I did to match my gold and purple theme. Worked out awesome.
Excellent content! I picked up several useful things mentioned in the video. Would love to see new list every couple of months or a Black Friday/Boxing Day/Christmas special.
Nice! One minor correction: the PS connectors at the start are 180 degrees not 90 degrees as you said. I call these 'Thrust Reversers'. I've also seen them with plastic covers which is a little more professional than the foam tape. I've been looking for the same idea for MB power connectors. Maybe a bit niche since it would only work with an open style MB tray (or one that happened to have a cable access at just the right location), but in the right circumstances it could really neaten up a build! Even thought of designing a PCB and making them myself!
The 180° GPU Power Adapter and the Fan ducts were completely new for me, AND insanely useful. Thank you sooo much. Also, the Lian Li GPU bracket looks like something I will buy for my next build as well. Very cool if it can be hidden and won't interfere with the CPU cooler or ram
That barrel plug adapter is just what I need to clean up a bunch of power cables from my audio stuff. Now I just need a multi barrel plug adapter that can plug into the wall and split power to different things
For me (most of you know this thing already) are those velcro-zipties thingy for cable management. I use buttload of HDDs and fans, so there are cable-jungle inside my pc case. Easy to re-apply, re-adjust, and unlike one time use plastic zipties, the velcro ones are reuseable 💪🏼
Zip-ties are also reusable, there is a little catch you can push aside to back it out, long as you don't cut it super short you can usually reuse and readjust them.
I have something similar to the PWM Fan & ARGB Splitter shown in the video. Only difference is that it doesn't have ARGB, just 10 fans which works fine for my needs since I only have 5 Arctic P12 PWM fans at the moment. Only thing I didn't like with the splitter is the bright blue LED in the middle of the board which I just covered. The other accessories might be of use to me but I either have something similar (i.e. fan splitter and USB 3 sata adapter) or have no use for them at the moment like the PCIE power right angle connectors.
I actually have the ELV8 and i absolutely love it, the small branding looks really clean with my coolermaster AIO. Its not hard to install, and its not a gargantuan GPU Bracket. I literally just watched J2C recent vod before this on the ROG GPU Bracket and that thing is huge. It completely blocks off access to the bottom half of the motherboard.
you're a life saver, I had the fan hub and have been using DC mode all the time and my fans were like jet engine, set it to pwm mode is quiet now, I can have my inner peace now
Last year on my old PC my HD was failing, so I got a 2.5 SSD and cloned it, but I didn't have a place to mount it. I found a neat magnetic mounting bracket for it, screws on like a normal SSD mount, then you can stick it anywhere metal. It was a Team T-Force product. I can't seem to find it on sale anywhere right now, but it was really handy.
The cooler master elv8 is a fantastic gpu bracket but it can sometimes sit in the gpu fans for high profile cards, solution is to ether use 3 stand-offs on the pcie sockets to raise the bracket up or use couple of right angle brackets at the support end to raise the support peg up The bracket is one of the best I’ve seen solid metal not plastic Forgot to add that if you have a o11 style case (doesn’t have to be the xl case) and use a vertical mount for your GPU, you can install the elv8 under the mount to support the back end of the mount to stop heavy GPU’s from weighing it down plus you get a argb strip below your gpu and still have room for fans on the bottom of the case
That 12v DC pci slot power adapter, i use that to power my vr headset rather than having to have a whole extra power brick. Only problem is its a different size than the valve index, so you also need an adapter to make it work.
lol ive used these in my builds for years now, finally a video showcasing these sweet little easy mods that make any build clean and efficient in terms of space and cable management! Great VID!
You can also use the Silverstone ECP01 to power cheap TPA3116 based speaker amplifiers the size of a matchbox. Those amps can take anything between 12 volts and 24 volts, the 12V/5A output of the PSU is more than enough for blasting your ears off. Normally a decent power brick for those amplifiers would cost more than the amp itself, not to mention the sheer size of those power bricks.
I loved this video. Most of the "Cool PC components" videos are full of crap no one needs. I've been thinking about making my next PC ITX and now that there is more support with stuff like this, I'm more apt to do so. I just need to find out what the drawbacks of ITX are.
Actually tech under 50 dollars that you can actually use.. Definitely thought of the gpu bracket and that USB 3.0 converter..loving the enthusiasm of someone who used a cool stuff and want to share that practicality with friends vibe
Dude, that USB 3.1 to Type-C is a life saver, my PC hasn’t got type-c connecter so my type c port will be dead, but I have an open 3.1 port, game changer.
Just like the last video like this, I've used almost all of the products in this video. I haven't used that specific Cooler Master GPU bracket. And I'm not the biggest fans of those 40mm Noctua fans in some instances. The one in my 3d printer works great, but I lined the back of a custom Optiplex with them and i think they slowed down airflow more than anything. I will admit that I used the thicker static pressure version though instead of the thinner ones, which I assume would have moved more air. I would have went back and revisited the project, but I've had no use for that Optiplex in ages.
im curious, what is that exact model of Silverstone Modular Power Supply at 11:46 ?? .... i was looking thru amazon for something looking like that but cant find it. need it for a special build im planning to do
Great video. Cant recommend the Sabrent USB to SATA enough. I too have been saved on multiple builds by one. I have two because I keep one at my desk and one in my build area.
You should do a series of pc components that fit in certain places like hardware that fits in a disc drive slot or usb accessories or power supply items etc.
Good video, nice overview and it's all actually very practical. It might be worth mentioning about that wireless adapter needing USB for BT though. Or do a short video about it blaming BT SIG?
Heads-up on the 180 degree adapters: there have been two cases posted online of those starting fires. Keep an eye on them while using them and make sure you dont take off the protective backing else you'll cause a short. In one of the cases, the person took off the protection. I will buy them and use; been on my radar for a while now but just wanted to give a warning. One of the posts was on the LTT forums.
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It was a great vid!
Got your "notification" of my prize 6 minutes after posting a comment. These bots are so annoying.
@@perdomot Yeah. And they seem to be doing this on multiple channels. 😡
@@perdomot There only here because they work on people unfortunately.
Lol. I thought i just won 4090ti.
Please do these types of videos every now and then. It's immensely helpful and informative
Thanks. Unfortunately, the number of new and cool PC components that're released on an even yearly basis are SO minimal...but I'll try. -Mike
@@HardwareCanucks I found it very valuable to finally understand some of the important differences in these components. Wouldn't even mind one that's all expensive items
Seriously! So inspiring to see the latest hardware gadgets and tech.
Is a very rare video where many of the things that "You've never heard of" are actually things that we weren't fully aware of. Love learning about neat little things like these, even if I have no use for them now.
ok, that USB to SATA cable is a god send. I have a crappier, more ghetto version, but yeah, holy smokes has it saved me while doing PC builds in the past.
I have two of those USB to SATA adapters and they are gold.
I have so many of them because I shuck Seagate 2TB Backup Plus Slims when making modded Xbox 360's for friends lol
I always keep a usb2 and 3 version around because they are so quick and versitile. If you've spent any time pushing ram to the limit or done any kind of XOC you'll know how easy it is to destroy your windows install, especially anything newer than W7. These offer a quick solution for imaging and restoring fully prepped OS's for each specific platform and work with whatever imaging software you use. Even Ghost32 from 2011 still works with all Windows builds, but I also use Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image if I need additional control. Also work great with a 500gb ssd where I keep all drivers, utilities and bios files so any problem I face can be fixed quickly
They're SO GOOD...except the ones that can't transmit the full amperage.
It's only good IF it has a barrel jack input for power-hungry drives.
This should be a weekly, or at least a monthly thing Mike. I'm sure there a lot of cool little tech items that most people haven't heard of.
I'd do it. But in this environment, finding cool stuff that's actually NEW isn't easy at all. I don't want this to become another BS series of junk people already knew about and avoided....
@@HardwareCanucks good point, definitely dont do it every week lol, but every once in a while its good
@@HardwareCanucks That makes a lot of sense Mike. Then definitely not a weekly thing. Perhaps a monthly or bi-monthly thing if that is doable.
An OEM edition may come in handy. Plenty of items between HP and Dell that may come in handy.
Man those 90 degree cable adapters..... I just built a new mATX and the case and cables need these.... Thanks broski
these litterally made my 3070 tuf fit in my zzaw c2 so u could close the panel. Ran it panel off for a month until i found the two sets.
The ones in the video aren't 90 degrees though, they're 180 degrees.
I was curious, but yes the ECP01 is overcurrent protected. Otherwise it would be really sketchy to bring your PSU power outside your case.
It is. I made sure of that. :)
Yooo the color work is on point in this video
Gotta love Silverstone and their accessories that you never knew you needed.
I just ripped out a silverstone SFF PSU on a rebuild because the cables were too stiff to route well in my NR200P. Went with an evga because even though it just has traditional braided cables, they were so much easier to work with. Seeing these silverstone cables sold separately is a hilarious grift. Essentially "sure you paid a cool 150 for an otherwise mediocre PSU, now cough up another 30 funbux for something that we shoulda put in the box!".
Yeah I think I'll look elsewhere from now on.
Ugh same, I used a silver stone PSU in my shift air, I hate those cables!! Ugh.
@@princez.2648its all about heating the cable before you bend and put in position :o
Ok I'll admit, it isn't optimal to buy $100 of cables for a $150 PSU...but there still awesome.
Please make more of these. these are some of the best videos you make. I actually end up purchasing this stuff vss you're average everyday video.
I have the sabrent USB to sata cable, it has saved me so many times! Highly recommended.
Thx for mentioning the SABRENT USB to SATA adapter. I own one, forgot I had it, and have yet to use it. I foolishly was still using an enclosure or bitlocker for the task
9:23 try cleaning the area with an alcohol swab, let it dry and then attach it. Apply some pressure for about 30 seconds. 👍👍
Oh this was awesome. One thing you might be interested in is noctua has physical switches that plug in to a normal electrical outlet for pwm fans, so if you’re building a fan for a cabinet with a pc/Xbox/ps/whatever in it you can tap a switch on/off in the cabinet.
DO you have a link? Can't find any information on these. Was looking for this for my mini rack.
VHB Tape for mounting small items and SDDs (no need for bulky drive cages, and more placement options); and PCIe x1 or x4 to NVMe cards - Sure its not using the full bandwith of the SSD, but comparable to SATA drives and can give extra storage in a neater form and doesn't need extra cables to be run (and most ATX boards will have at least one of these slots free!
ah yes SDDs
@@yummybeeftaco
Solid Drive, Dawg.
Those nvme cards are adapter cards ?
Cool idea. Gonna have to try this. ♥️
Hey Mike, since you seem to be interested in the topic how about a video on 3d printed computer gadgets or 3d prints you have done that are related to computers.
Also I have the noctua na-fd1 and it had less impact on temperature than I expected (1-2°C less) but it's pretty cheap and I have a bunch of the foam stuff left that I could use for another pc.
More of these! I love the idea of things I could pop into my PC on internal headers.
Awesome Type-C Adapter i was just looking for that solution for my new case
thanks a lot
This is such a great video!! I am buying a few of those 5V barrel plug adapters. They will be perfect for some of my projects. Thanks for this video!
NICE! Good luck!
Hi, loved the video. Thanks for sharing.
Where can I find the Stl you mentioned?
Excellent, excellent, excellent. This is really helpful. These gadgets can be extremely useful. Thank you.
I use that SABRENT cable to hook up an SSD to my PS4 Pro. It helps a lot with the loading times and texture pop-in.
Stellar video, i'd been looking at that GPU bracket and boom its in one of your videos!
Thank you!
Like many comments before, this should be a weekly or monthly series. So much stuff out there that I didnt or dont know existed. Keep up the good work.
I finally found a Sata-Usb single that can work with 3.5 HDDs even 18TB drives Amazon finally has one that included the AC adapter
I used some small Noctua fans in my Lian Li pc-011 dynamic during my last build. The non-XL version of the case doesn't have a place for a fan in the rear of the case but it is vented with a bunch of round holes. I just bought two 60mm Noctua fans and mounted them with a single screw passing through the vent holes. They even disassemble easily enough to paint which is what I did to match my gold and purple theme. Worked out awesome.
Excellent content! I picked up several useful things mentioned in the video. Would love to see new list every couple of months or a Black Friday/Boxing Day/Christmas special.
FAB loved this one, lots of useful stuff and connectors I had not seem before.... more please 👍👍
loved it man ! make sure we get more of these kind of videos please!
Wait you forgot something. What is that device under the Noctua funnel between the sag bracket and USC-C adapter at 12:35???
These are what I've been looking for!
Really useful components!
"Raw dogging it with a hard......."
🤣
A hard what....
Oh drive....
😁
Nice! One minor correction: the PS connectors at the start are 180 degrees not 90 degrees as you said. I call these 'Thrust Reversers'. I've also seen them with plastic covers which is a little more professional than the foam tape. I've been looking for the same idea for MB power connectors. Maybe a bit niche since it would only work with an open style MB tray (or one that happened to have a cable access at just the right location), but in the right circumstances it could really neaten up a build! Even thought of designing a PCB and making them myself!
This Silverstone CP14-E, USB 3.0 Internal looks cool wish i new about this sooner,, thanks man..
Nice! I just grabbed a 180-degree 8-pin pack for my new GPU. I had never heard of these! =)
The 180° GPU Power Adapter and the Fan ducts were completely new for me, AND insanely useful. Thank you sooo much. Also, the Lian Li GPU bracket looks like something I will buy for my next build as well. Very cool if it can be hidden and won't interfere with the CPU cooler or ram
90 degrees my guy ...
@@rickstorm4198 no no, it is amazing 180. i need 2 of them :)
EZDIY-FAB have a same 180 gpu adapter but better design.
Loved this video. Thank you
Watched this vid while using the Sabrent cable to copy files!
That noctua foam would have been perfect in my node 202.
Mike is the Guru of Hardware-Accessories no one buys. Just kidding, love you Mike, great Video. Every one of those can be a life saver.
Great info, thanks! Best Hardware Canucks video in a while!
Wow, thanks!
That barrel plug adapter is just what I need to clean up a bunch of power cables from my audio stuff. Now I just need a multi barrel plug adapter that can plug into the wall and split power to different things
Thanks Mike all these things are really useful what an awesome video !!!!
yeah right !!!!
For me (most of you know this thing already) are those velcro-zipties thingy for cable management. I use buttload of HDDs and fans, so there are cable-jungle inside my pc case. Easy to re-apply, re-adjust, and unlike one time use plastic zipties, the velcro ones are reuseable 💪🏼
Zip-ties are also reusable, there is a little catch you can push aside to back it out, long as you don't cut it super short you can usually reuse and readjust them.
I've built computers on and off for about 25 years. At times, some of the most beneficial parts of a build are items like those. Great video!
I have something similar to the PWM Fan & ARGB Splitter shown in the video. Only difference is that it doesn't have ARGB, just 10 fans which works fine for my needs since I only have 5 Arctic P12 PWM fans at the moment. Only thing I didn't like with the splitter is the bright blue LED in the middle of the board which I just covered.
The other accessories might be of use to me but I either have something similar (i.e. fan splitter and USB 3 sata adapter) or have no use for them at the moment like the PCIE power right angle connectors.
Glad you guys do all the product exploration for us. GJ
I actually have the ELV8 and i absolutely love it, the small branding looks really clean with my coolermaster AIO. Its not hard to install, and its not a gargantuan GPU Bracket. I literally just watched J2C recent vod before this on the ROG GPU Bracket and that thing is huge. It completely blocks off access to the bottom half of the motherboard.
my old Z97 LGA-1150 mobo do not support RGB. can i buy this (7:57)) & equip it with RGB lights connecting to it?
you're a life saver, I had the fan hub and have been using DC mode all the time and my fans were like jet engine, set it to pwm mode is quiet now, I can have my inner peace now
Great video! Definitely some interesting items there for really good prices
Last year on my old PC my HD was failing, so I got a 2.5 SSD and cloned it, but I didn't have a place to mount it. I found a neat magnetic mounting bracket for it, screws on like a normal SSD mount, then you can stick it anywhere metal. It was a Team T-Force product. I can't seem to find it on sale anywhere right now, but it was really handy.
awesome video and there are some awesome items here, and yes things that can be a real benefit to a PC build or upgrade. thx for this video!!!
I picked up one of those Sabrent USB/SATA cables and was very impressed. Great speeds for backing up onto my SSDs. Good work
I have that fan hub thing. I love it haha
Came here just to praise the epic thumbnail pic 🙌
The cooler master elv8 is a fantastic gpu bracket but it can sometimes sit in the gpu fans for high profile cards, solution is to ether use 3 stand-offs on the pcie sockets to raise the bracket up or use couple of right angle brackets at the support end to raise the support peg up
The bracket is one of the best I’ve seen solid metal not plastic
Forgot to add that if you have a o11 style case (doesn’t have to be the xl case) and use a vertical mount for your GPU, you can install the elv8 under the mount to support the back end of the mount to stop heavy GPU’s from weighing it down plus you get a argb strip below your gpu and still have room for fans on the bottom of the case
Great recommendation! - Mike
@@HardwareCanucks thank you Mike and I just updated the text to add a little bonus too for the elv8 with vertical mount brackets
please do more of these kind of videos. i really like custom pc components.
those tiny noctua fans are also really great for replacing server PSU fans, they are way quieter and work well
For sure sold me on that USB/SATA cable and the right-angle connectors!
those PCIe power cable angle adapters are FIRE HAZARDSS
That 12v DC pci slot power adapter, i use that to power my vr headset rather than having to have a whole extra power brick.
Only problem is its a different size than the valve index, so you also need an adapter to make it work.
lol ive used these in my builds for years now, finally a video showcasing these sweet little easy mods that make any build clean and efficient in terms of space and cable management! Great VID!
I bought a 90 degree USB 3.0 adapter in Tokyo a couple of years ago which makes running the thick case cable so much nicer.
I love these PC components. Love your channel
Thank you
You can also use the Silverstone ECP01 to power cheap TPA3116 based speaker amplifiers the size of a matchbox. Those amps can take anything between 12 volts and 24 volts, the 12V/5A output of the PSU is more than enough for blasting your ears off.
Normally a decent power brick for those amplifiers would cost more than the amp itself, not to mention the sheer size of those power bricks.
I loved this video. Most of the "Cool PC components" videos are full of crap no one needs. I've been thinking about making my next PC ITX and now that there is more support with stuff like this, I'm more apt to do so. I just need to find out what the drawbacks of ITX are.
dude, what an awesome video
Actually tech under 50 dollars that you can actually use.. Definitely thought of the gpu bracket and that USB 3.0 converter..loving the enthusiasm of someone who used a cool stuff and want to share that practicality with friends vibe
Dude, that USB 3.1 to Type-C is a life saver, my PC hasn’t got type-c connecter so my type c port will be dead, but I have an open 3.1 port, game changer.
wow! how did I never hear of these great, high quality components! & U used them on urself!! congratulations!!
Mike, Thanks for the "unboxings" and the usage tips....great info!
That's what's up my dude I always enjoy some janky pci cards that do things you don't know you want or need. Appreciate it!
Just like the last video like this, I've used almost all of the products in this video. I haven't used that specific Cooler Master GPU bracket. And I'm not the biggest fans of those 40mm Noctua fans in some instances. The one in my 3d printer works great, but I lined the back of a custom Optiplex with them and i think they slowed down airflow more than anything. I will admit that I used the thicker static pressure version though instead of the thinner ones, which I assume would have moved more air. I would have went back and revisited the project, but I've had no use for that Optiplex in ages.
Actually laughed out loud at the "you dont wanna be raw doggin it" line... Out of the blue, unexpected funny!
great video! I actually just bought those 180 degree pcie power connectors a few weeks ago, so clean looking!
Technically this DC adapter should deliver enough power even for a normal LG display with external power brick. It supports 12V, 5A.
my LG display is 19V. So watch out if you plan to use this.
@@BootSequence You always should check the power data!
Buying an LG display for a friend and it would be really tempting to try it out.
Thanks, through your video I became aware of Silverstone and was able to find an adapter I've been searching for.
Just in time, I'm doing some upgrades this was invaluable, Thank You
Nice Work there Young Sir. Thank You.
Actually really dig this video! Thanks! I had no idea about the right angle GPU power pin adapter.
im curious, what is that exact model of Silverstone Modular Power Supply at 11:46 ?? .... i was looking thru amazon for something looking like that but cant find it. need it for a special build im planning to do
Easily the best video of its kind out there. Very useful stuff! Thank you!
That RGB splitter looks super cool, I just got some fans not sure if they already have a hub. But if they don't I'm going to get it for sure
pretty cool stuff, thanks for showing this!
Thank you for the great list! The sata to USB cable is definitely a useful find.
Great video. Cant recommend the Sabrent USB to SATA enough. I too have been saved on multiple builds by one. I have two because I keep one at my desk and one in my build area.
Great video, lots of stuff I'll be buying. Liked, subscribed.
Mike, that was a very helpful video. I learned a lot.
I love these ads with Chris Pratt and bequiet is cool too!!
You should do a series of pc components that fit in certain places like hardware that fits in a disc drive slot or usb accessories or power supply items etc.
Very nice selection of useful items. Thanks for the info.
I love my tiny Noctua fans, they keep my NVMe's super cool
Very nice...love the raw dog comment...hilarious
So cool to see this make a comeback!
Very cool ideas! Thank you very much!
More of these types of videos please! So cool to learn from cool gadgets like these!
Good video, nice overview and it's all actually very practical. It might be worth mentioning about that wireless adapter needing USB for BT though. Or do a short video about it blaming BT SIG?
Heads-up on the 180 degree adapters: there have been two cases posted online of those starting fires. Keep an eye on them while using them and make sure you dont take off the protective backing else you'll cause a short. In one of the cases, the person took off the protection.
I will buy them and use; been on my radar for a while now but just wanted to give a warning. One of the posts was on the LTT forums.