Pachy's fall from grace from when it was first released to now is just depressing. It wasn't meant to be the bane of all Carnos but man, I miss being able to at least escape from a group of predators after landing a good hit instead of being a walking meat bag when solo.
Same. It's in such a bad way right now. I've been frustrated with playables before, but this was another level. Couldn't even fight back enough to survive 1.5 omnis. It's disheartening
@@sarcysucho5164it’s very fragile glass without the cannon. Omnis can stick to pachy like glue with nothing the pachy can do about it and trying to parry a carno takes off half your hp. Pachy is free calories right now.
Your sanctuary experience validates the opinion that gateway actually encourages a more sedentary lifestyle than ever before in the games history. At least you got to adulthood
As a whole I think Gateway update is a big leap back for the game, the map looks nice but thats about all the positives of it. Sanctuaries promote afk gameplay and takes up important(fairly central) space on the map that adult dinos have to avoid, the migration zones that were supposed to "fix" hotspots obviously only created even more hotspot gameplay. You either go to the migration zones or you basically never see another player again because the rest of the map is a barren wasteland so they have no reason to go there. Similarly to Pachy's beach migration, few other people have any reason going there because its not like there are that many Pachies around that a carnivore even has a decent chance of there being one there, its a waste of time checking it when there are far better "hotspots" to look at. Which is sort of my main complaint with the new map, its larger than ever but the actual areas people play on seem to be smaller than ever. If you do not go to the "right" locations you can literally spend hours playing on a 100/100 server and not see anyone, while actively out looking for them(just not in the big hotspots). Feels like with every update to the game it is moving further and further away from the Survival/Simulation aspect and instead turning into a Battle Royale game where we have Migration Zones to follow instead of a circle and instead of taking constant damage when outside it, you simply starve to death.. or get bored to death. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Yeah, I understand and appreciate the idea behind migrations, but I was somewhat hoping they'd be a bit less strict. At the very least slower food and water drain would be appreciated so that we can explore outside of zones for more than 15 minutes before needing to turn back
@@dinometta it's all good haha! Lived a long life with one of the adults until unfortunately met a cliff the next day when I logged on, I'm new to the game and it was a super fun adventure to be on though!
So many problems that could be either solved or minimized just by fixing the darn stamina. I hate what they did to the stamina the most. It makes finding food/water, fighting, running from predators, etc. so much more of a pain now. They should’ve left it or only done minor balancing changes. I wanna explore the new big map but i feel like i can’t most the time cuz im always stressing on my stamina
They could fix it by decreasing food and water drain imo. Even if stam is rough, I wouldn't feel so trapped if I could survive outside the zone for more than 15 minutes before I have to return for diets.
They did a stealthy un-nerf in regards to stamina. They had previously removed the buff that the dots nutrient gave to stamina regeneration speed - but they’ve recently added it back. When the stamina nerfs first got introduced the only thing that an all-dots diet would give you was reduced stamina cost for sprinting and swimming. It absolutely blows to try and live off of nothing but the dots nutrient for a lot of species but at least they added it back.
I main Pachy as well, and this new update sucks. I was walking from sanctuary to the migration, got stuck within a mountain, had to go back down and around, then almost dying of starvation from having 0 food around, I made it to migration. I stayed there for almost 2 hours until another pachy showed up. We decided to explore the map. Made it to the swamp, hydrated and realized we had to find food again. We went across the map. I had almost made it to migration, with multiple stam breaks, when I started dying of hunger and thirst. I grazed and the only water around was the bridge, thats got like no way down. So boom i died. Never even got into combat, barely saw any other players, it was so BORING.
Yup, this is basically how my experience felt. Except every time I did run into other players when I was alone, I simply died or only barely scraped by by the skin of my teeth. Extremely disappointing experience. I wondered why there were so few pachys around, now I understand
I played the pachy for the first time this past week (working on the video editing still lol) and I managed to find some others and go to migration. I actually enjoyed the pachy more than I thought I would, but I do think it needs a little more work to make it playable when solo. I think if they just make it so it can turn like a raptor when running, it would be able to defend itself better. I think you played it really good even though the game makes it difficult. 😄I watched you play with Acronym recently on his channel! Looks like you guys had a lot of fun! Excited to see more of your videos in the future!
Yeah pachy is in a rough place when you're solo, and I think that makes less people willing to play it. Acro is great! I always have a blast when we run together!
@@dinometta Would love to play play some time with you if you are interested. No worries if you aren't lol. Don't want to be a bother. What is your favorite dino to play?
@@dinometta I haven't played cerato yet in Gateway. I hopefully will be able to soon! I joined your server, so I'll keep an eye out for when you play so I can see if I can join. 😊
I really like playing pachy, i dont know the name of the place i hang out but it overlooks that dry african safari looking area. it has nice rocks to jump up onto and if you learn your pad enough you can play epic peakaboos with predators. i like to think pachys love rocky areas because its in theme with their numbskullery. nobody said it was easy. no one ever said it would be this hard. oh, take me back to the start - coldplay
I'm a new player, so I don't know where the best location is to spawn, so I end up spending so long trying to get to the sanctuary, that I don't need it anymore when I finally get there. And then I have to go to the migration zone, in a completely different direction. Kind of frustrating...
They need to bring back global on every server and the old group system where you could click 'tab' and add people, it would be a lot better since you would actually be able to find your own species, and it would also make people more likely to nest since they can find the same of their species.
I sure hope so! I still haven't tested out the dryo changes in stress test, but as soon as they go fully live I'll definitely be giving dryo a proper life cycle video!
having to trade hits with carno and cerato to use your primary attack feels awful, as well as the recovery time on its ram. i hope it gets some tlc soon.
@@dinometta ah thank you i can see why that would mess with the combat balance and be rough for players who want to play as intended. since the game is still in dev maybe they'll add debuffs for grouping with incompatible species
Again Ive said this before but small moments like that raptor being murdered for crossing yalls path makes you feel bad, and when you consider how there isnt cross species chat in the game, its almost like witnessing an actual dinosaur being killed, not a player. Again very small but little tedious differences like these make me love the game sometimes 🤣 also W for not joining in on that mob attack lol
One of the major flaws with pachy is now that it can't buck, a single sub omni can use all of its stamina in a pounce and put you on death bleed. And there is nearly nothing you can do about it. Pachy is pretty much required to play in groups, or else you get shredded by every omni, carno, and cera on the server over and over again. The biggest issue I've had with gateway so far is attacks not doing anything. I've had situations where I pounce a stationary carno as an omni and I just stand there doing nothing. Or charging a headslam right into a target as a pachy and the animation just cancels (and not because I was holding it too long). It's frustrating putting a lot of time into growing something and dying not because of a lack of skill, but because the game's foundation is so unstable to the point of glitchy combat being the norm. In that aspect, pot and bob are miles ahead. Personally, I like the quality of the isle. But I absolute the fragility of playables and lack of visual feedback. A single ambush from a bush is a death sentence. A carno charge from the pitch black darkness is a death sentence. Not to mention troodon, where 70% of your line of sight is grass, and 20% is the sky.
Yeah, hopefully they'll fix bucking ASAP. Because it really sucks dying simply because a raptor landed a pounce. Carno charge right now is an entirely other issue that I could vent about quite heavily as well. But by far pachy has been one of the most frustrating experiences I've ever had on gateway
@@theunturnedgamer1606 every single time I died as a pachy on this map was my fault/boldness so far. It can definitely fight/debuff what it cannot escape and what it can escape.. Can be debuffed too as a matter of fact :D The only thing I see as a common problem now in The Isle (and this is pretty much the case for other dino games too) is the constant balance changing in abilities and dmg outputs which always result in ppl being annoyed when they play their favorite dino again and a brand new learning curve awaits for them. Pachy is by no means a killing machine that can go soloing up to everything in mid tier class. That was silly from the beginning of this playable. And it is still the only dino that can run straight against carno´s charge and claim clean W after that encounter pretty much every time. So far my most played herb on gateway.
@@theunturnedgamer1606 If you fight players that suck, anyone can get the illusion that they're good at the game. Nothing I mentioned was a problem of skill 👍
I have fought many many many things and I highly doubt all of the were crap, even if they were killing 3 out of 5 omnis and 6/6 troodons as a solo generally suggests I know what im doing
I have to say, I love Gateway so much more than Spiro. But that's about where it ends. The map is begging to be explored and traversed through, but with the migration zones being bugged at the moment and it being in the northeast plains for what seems like 95% of the time, exploring is punished along with the rate food and water drops currently... Pachy definitely needs a rework, and so does the way Gatework works. It's currently leaving a lot to be desired. Still loving the game though just wishing a few smaller things were a bit more polished...
I heavily agree! I spent some time on carno recently(next video incoming) and got the chance to wander from South all the way to east and back again. Gateway is such a gorgeous map. I spotted another cave I haven't seen before that I want to check out on herra, traversed along a really gorgeous coastline, and trotted my way through several really nice forested areas. Breaks my heart a little seeing the broken zones(actually the other zones are often also active at the same time, people just don't realize it because they stay at NE) with not a soul in them. Plenty of AI in most though, so if you really want to explore, doing so as a small carnivore is quite doable. I'd recommend dilo or raptor for lower hunger time, but I managed okay even on carno with the fastest hunger drain in the game
@@dinometta Yeah the map is absolutely stunning the times I've gotten to explore it! It just feels like such a waste, such a big beautiful map yet there are systems in the game that essentially prevent/punish you from exploring feels very counter intuitive. I will say as someone who loves to play Cera I feel the hunger drop is ridiculously quick as a full grown (Also why is boar not on a Cera's diet?!) I've tried to explore in my group multiple times and it usually ends up with one of us starving, eating the one that starves, and running back to north east with our tails between our legs. I'll have to give Dilo a go!
I believe than Pachy's stun should come back, but with a rework. Right now, Pachys are just, big dryos with the possibility of push or break bones. I know, the stun made pachy unfair and a nightmare in the previous updates with packs of cannis around. But should come back with a rework. Pachys headbut should waste a lot of stam, in exchange of a good headbutt, and a stronger hit if pachy is running and weaker if is standing. That way, with the new stam system, a pachy would still have the option of "fight or flee", that way also prevents pachys to chase down other dinos, penalizing be super aggro. If you fight, good, you can win but you risk to waste all your stam and... end game. But if you flee, pachys still have enought stamina. Your fight with the carno, showed moments were clearly the hit conected, and still, the carno can bite. If ceras can lock vomit, and tenos can stun kick, i do not see why Pachys can't stun too.
I honestly would like pachy to simply only stun on initial break. That way if they get greedy and go for more than the three breaks, they're going to take a beating
@@dinometta yes, exactly, something like that. At least that way it would be entertaining. Pachys don't have a good life pool, nor are they fast and with their size they are not elusive. That plus the desynchronization errors, runnerbanding and lag... Play pachy is hell, as you mention. if the whole meta is try to go close to bonk, and i can't even do it, what sense is?. PS, you earned a new sub.
@@raphaelpfister8481 I don't, occasionally I stream here on RUclips though. I expect to stream more in the upcoming months as my kids go back to school
I thought pachy was increadibly easy and low effort to grow after playing it so felt even more compelled to kos them. They are the most toxic dino on the isle IMO
Yeah, I did 1v1 many carnos back then. I just would like to see it have stun on initial break. Allowing for 3 total stuns. That way if they get greedy they risk death
The biggest issue is just that it is banished to the barren beach with no other playables. No one wants to go to the beach if they're only going to find pachy there. And no one wants to play pachy if they're going to sit in an empty section of the map for two hours
I don't think it's bad enough to refund. Especially as the game is constantly changing! I'd give it a chance. Pachy is quite good against dilo and when it's in herds
Hopefully they'll fix it soon. But until then, the fog that closes in around you won't be stopped or otherwise negated by gamma use. So long as we can get the ambush and start the venom process, their cheating won't save them :]
@@borshelin i wish I could say yes. I played it again the other day. It's back to having very distant, lonely migrations. I also got canni'd immediately after reaching full growth. Overall very disappointing experience
6 months late here but screw it I'll complain about how inept the devs are here too. "Ramming" animals have next to no ability to defend themselves from predators by, well, ramming. Headbutting and ramming is a specialized behavior for mate competition but is almost entirely useless for confronting predators, since they rely on a run up and throwing all your weight into it. Turns out, tossing yourself at the thing wanting to eat you is a poor survival strategy. Now, modern headbutters are ungulates, which just so happen to have the advantage of four legs ending in sharp hooves. While headbutting is useless for self defense, if they have to they can still kick their predators and land some pretty devastating hits, but more often than not things like ibexes or bighorn sheep just rely on getting away from the predator before they can get caught, same as every prey animal. Pachy, being bipedal, has nothing. Its tail likely wasn't a reliable weapon, being more specialized for maintaining balance, and its legs don't seem well suited to kicking and its arms are practically useless. The real pachycephalosaurs almost certainly relied entirely on flight to survive predators. But in game, just as the teno, pachy has far too little stamina. Only able to run for two minutes give or take, it has no chance to escape raptors and has to rely on speed and convenient foliage to escape cerato if it hasn't managed to break a leg. There is no escaping a carno if it sees you first. The only way to deal with a carno is to be the initiator of the fight, and then leave if it with the busted leg if it has no friends to deal with you. Pachy is stuck with teno in animals that SHOULD have stupid amounts of stamina to facilitate outlasting predators in extended chases and relying on flight over fight, but instead has been forced to fight predators they have little chance against because they have herbivore hyper asthma.
I'm well aware of how to pronounce pachycephalosaurus. However, pronouncing the shortened version: pachy as pa-key sounds very similar to a slur used in the UK to degrade Pakistani people. Therefore I'd rather pronounce it "wrong" than hurt someone's feelings or have RUclips's censorship algorithm coming after me for using what it believes is derogatory language, rather than the proper pronunciation of a dinosaur nickname.
Wtfdym pachy is still broken as it can still Form op mixherds and raptors and dilos are no problem , i mean its obvious this 3 Cheeseburger high lightweight is not supposed to compete with cera or carno
My opinion on pachy is so mixed and I hate it, because Ive always loved carnivores and as a person who could pretty much call carno the official og isle main at least in evrima, it always annoyed me seeing over-aggro pachies bodying carnos just because of stun locking, but at the same time I now wish I could’ve gotten better as a carno player and feel terrible for pachy players, a pachy without stun can only barely fight raptors and carnos are just untouchable unless teamed up on, not to mention that carno has once again gotten an over-advantageous buff to where it doesnt even have acceleration, the only buff it needed in 6.5 was a less punishing cost fod its charge, maybe 5% or 7.5% stam cost but imo 10% for a charge vs a 10% for a tenos tail slam was too much, but again, nevermind on that because carno is officially op. I also really wish they kept carno a canni, I never experienced megapacks but cannibalism probably helped deal with that and it was also just a good way to test your skills against another creature with even stats. Also going back to pachy, I would keep the stun but somehow make it just *slightly* less punishing than it was before 6.5, that would make the matchup between carno and pachy 1v1s more in the favor of both creatures(unless the carno ambushes of course, which was super annoying on spiro because you only had tiny bushes for cover) Edit: once again Ive typed a whole “comment,” more like “essay” on one of Metta’s videos 🤣
Also I hadnt even started the video really in the making of that comment but if you were mentioning pachy being broken as in op in 6 and before, Im glad you agree 🤣 but if not then its ok we have different opinions and biases.
Lmao welcome back! I always expect a nice essay when I see your name pop up! I agree with most all of your points! I think the best thing they could do to fix pachy is to allow it 3 stuns. 1 for each break. Once the target is broken, it can't be stunned anymore, not by the pachy that broke it, not by other pachys in the herd. That way there's a bit more safety in going for a break to escape, but not so much that they just stunlock things to death.
@@dinomettathats a great idea, Ive stated myself before how sad it looked seeing an already helpless carno with 3 fractures (blinded and almost completely immobile) just getting bullied to death with nothing to do 🤣 not to mention the pachy had to hit it alot to kill it so you just waited for your death at that point. Glad you agreed! I ramble alot lol.
Hot take: deinos completely ruined the game. I hate it with a burning passion and the only thing that counter a deino is a stego or another deino. Complete and utter bs.
I just couldn’t with this game anymore. I refuse to play it until they decide to make survival bearable. A prime example of this is Herrera, which is such a fun animal, but STRUGGLES to survive due to most of its diet being AI, and said AI, never spawning. The stamina regeneration system also hindered this creature, and like every creature, it disabled them from supporting their hunter drain. God genuinely forbid you wish to traverse the landscapes. It actually impresses me how they manage to buff all the things that DIDNT need to be buffed and nerf all the things that NEEDED to be buffed. Pachy is unplayable, Carno is quite ridiculous now, Tenontosaurus may as well have a damn pool noodle for a tail slam, and for some reason the kick does less damage now and more bleed…????, Herrera is unsustainable more often than not, Omniraptor is the best animal in the game, Deino still is just a “press one button and win” animal, Gallimimus is just fast food, Cerato barely benefits from being a corpse bully, Ptera is no longer fun. Over the span of a few updates they managed to make pretty much every playable unfun in some capacity or another.
Pachy is the clunkiest, most unpolished, least satisfying and least fun thing to play in the entire game right now. I genuinely have more fun playing Troodon than this pos useless dino. It's only made worse by the arrival of Dilo.
@@dinometta no other dinosaur has as many issues and inconsistencies and little goofy quirks that can completely screw it over. You literally fly over targets half the time if they're just a little too low to the ground, looking slightly downwards or to the side completely cancels your ram, if your target is just on a 2cm incline your ram will pretend like it's not there, and if you miss by one inch you go flying off a cliff and die, its preferred habitats are hilly and rocky coasts where you'll be thrown off cliffs more often than Dondi insults his playerbase, when you hit a large dino you trade half your hp for it, sometimes your ram recovery just decides to be 5 times slower than normal and you just stand there not moving after missing a ram, knocking anything down won't allow you to get a second hit because your dinosaur has brain damage and can't attack again for the next 7 ice ages, if you get friendly fired even once it's over, and overall its attacks are just the most predictable telegraphed trash in the entire game.
It's because pa-key, the proper way of pronouncing it sounds like a slur used in the UK to degrade people of Pakistani descent. I'd rather mispronounce the nickname than potentially hurt someone or have RUclips's censorship algorithm slap me for thinking I'm using a slur in my video
Pachy's fall from grace from when it was first released to now is just depressing. It wasn't meant to be the bane of all Carnos but man, I miss being able to at least escape from a group of predators after landing a good hit instead of being a walking meat bag when solo.
Same. It's in such a bad way right now. I've been frustrated with playables before, but this was another level. Couldn't even fight back enough to survive 1.5 omnis. It's disheartening
Idk what pachy u have been playing but I kill groups of omnis and escape from carnos all the time as a solo
@@theunturnedgamer1606same, pachy is a glass cannon
@@sarcysucho5164it’s very fragile glass without the cannon. Omnis can stick to pachy like glue with nothing the pachy can do about it and trying to parry a carno takes off half your hp. Pachy is free calories right now.
@@gibbster4097 yeah if buck was fixed then it would be better, but pachy can’t solo a carno without difficulty, it should break the leg and run
Your sanctuary experience validates the opinion that gateway actually encourages a more sedentary lifestyle than ever before in the games history. At least you got to adulthood
I agree, it's really disappointing because I actually enjoy the more dangerous life of roaming while I grow.
As a whole I think Gateway update is a big leap back for the game, the map looks nice but thats about all the positives of it.
Sanctuaries promote afk gameplay and takes up important(fairly central) space on the map that adult dinos have to avoid, the migration zones that were supposed to "fix" hotspots obviously only created even more hotspot gameplay. You either go to the migration zones or you basically never see another player again because the rest of the map is a barren wasteland so they have no reason to go there.
Similarly to Pachy's beach migration, few other people have any reason going there because its not like there are that many Pachies around that a carnivore even has a decent chance of there being one there, its a waste of time checking it when there are far better "hotspots" to look at.
Which is sort of my main complaint with the new map, its larger than ever but the actual areas people play on seem to be smaller than ever. If you do not go to the "right" locations you can literally spend hours playing on a 100/100 server and not see anyone, while actively out looking for them(just not in the big hotspots). Feels like with every update to the game it is moving further and further away from the Survival/Simulation aspect and instead turning into a Battle Royale game where we have Migration Zones to follow instead of a circle and instead of taking constant damage when outside it, you simply starve to death.. or get bored to death.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Yeah, I understand and appreciate the idea behind migrations, but I was somewhat hoping they'd be a bit less strict.
At the very least slower food and water drain would be appreciated so that we can explore outside of zones for more than 15 minutes before needing to turn back
I really like this battle royale analogy and it perfectly sums up my issues with the current migration system
And with the stamina changes it’s not even a GOOD battle royal game xd
I was one of your babies! You had such an exciting life/lives before we were even part of thr adventures, so cool!
I hope you were able to live a good long pachy life!! Sorry I couldn't stick around to finish raising you! Had to pick up my real kids from school!
@@dinometta it's all good haha! Lived a long life with one of the adults until unfortunately met a cliff the next day when I logged on, I'm new to the game and it was a super fun adventure to be on though!
So many problems that could be either solved or minimized just by fixing the darn stamina. I hate what they did to the stamina the most. It makes finding food/water, fighting, running from predators, etc. so much more of a pain now. They should’ve left it or only done minor balancing changes. I wanna explore the new big map but i feel like i can’t most the time cuz im always stressing on my stamina
They could fix it by decreasing food and water drain imo. Even if stam is rough, I wouldn't feel so trapped if I could survive outside the zone for more than 15 minutes before I have to return for diets.
They did a stealthy un-nerf in regards to stamina. They had previously removed the buff that the dots nutrient gave to stamina regeneration speed - but they’ve recently added it back. When the stamina nerfs first got introduced the only thing that an all-dots diet would give you was reduced stamina cost for sprinting and swimming. It absolutely blows to try and live off of nothing but the dots nutrient for a lot of species but at least they added it back.
I main Pachy as well, and this new update sucks. I was walking from sanctuary to the migration, got stuck within a mountain, had to go back down and around, then almost dying of starvation from having 0 food around, I made it to migration. I stayed there for almost 2 hours until another pachy showed up. We decided to explore the map. Made it to the swamp, hydrated and realized we had to find food again. We went across the map. I had almost made it to migration, with multiple stam breaks, when I started dying of hunger and thirst. I grazed and the only water around was the bridge, thats got like no way down. So boom i died.
Never even got into combat, barely saw any other players, it was so BORING.
Yup, this is basically how my experience felt. Except every time I did run into other players when I was alone, I simply died or only barely scraped by by the skin of my teeth. Extremely disappointing experience.
I wondered why there were so few pachys around, now I understand
hard life out therelol, love watching your videos though you've become one of my fave isle creators
It is indeed! But thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my content!!
OMG I WAS THE BABY TENO! YOU GAVE ME A JUMP SCARE LOL!
Lol I had been watching you for a good moment before you spotted me xD
@@dinometta Yeah lol Xd
I definately wish I had stayed around now. Damn, welp can't turn back time.
Yooo!!! I waited for as long as I could, but I couldn't find you before I had to go for food and water!
@@dinomettahahahaa sorry about that
North East around the lake is the new center. Always stacked with players
Yeah, hopefully they'll address the spawning there a bit. Make it less of a hotspot
I played the pachy for the first time this past week (working on the video editing still lol) and I managed to find some others and go to migration. I actually enjoyed the pachy more than I thought I would, but I do think it needs a little more work to make it playable when solo. I think if they just make it so it can turn like a raptor when running, it would be able to defend itself better. I think you played it really good even though the game makes it difficult. 😄I watched you play with Acronym recently on his channel! Looks like you guys had a lot of fun! Excited to see more of your videos in the future!
Yeah pachy is in a rough place when you're solo, and I think that makes less people willing to play it.
Acro is great! I always have a blast when we run together!
@@dinometta Would love to play play some time with you if you are interested. No worries if you aren't lol. Don't want to be a bother. What is your favorite dino to play?
@@myrameg777 I'm always up for a good run! Current live patch I'm partial to raptor and cerato!
@@dinometta I haven't played cerato yet in Gateway. I hopefully will be able to soon! I joined your server, so I'll keep an eye out for when you play so I can see if I can join. 😊
@@myrameg777 sounds great!
I really like playing pachy, i dont know the name of the place i hang out but it overlooks that dry african safari looking area. it has nice rocks to jump up onto and if you learn your pad enough you can play epic peakaboos with predators.
i like to think pachys love rocky areas because its in theme with their numbskullery.
nobody said it was easy. no one ever said it would be this hard. oh, take me back to the start - coldplay
I'm a new player, so I don't know where the best location is to spawn, so I end up spending so long trying to get to the sanctuary, that I don't need it anymore when I finally get there. And then I have to go to the migration zone, in a completely different direction. Kind of frustrating...
Yeah, that makes it extra difficult.
There is a community made map that can be used though! RUclips doesn't like links, but you can Google it!
They need to bring back global on every server and the old group system where you could click 'tab' and add people, it would be a lot better since you would actually be able to find your own species, and it would also make people more likely to nest since they can find the same of their species.
@@EliHeffernan-jv1jp oh please no on global chat. That mess was the bane of my existence
amazing as always!
Thank you!
i got murked by a megapack of pachies who had claimed a whole sanctuary to themselves, i was a juvi teno. that was painful bruh😖
Oof, I hate when pachies go murder herd
tfw watching this to pass time while my pachy afk grows on full diet xd
Good luck! Pachy life is a bit better these days. Not so quiet! Though they still get slaughtered alone!
Pachy will get some love one day, dryo sure did.
I sure hope so! I still haven't tested out the dryo changes in stress test, but as soon as they go fully live I'll definitely be giving dryo a proper life cycle video!
having to trade hits with carno and cerato to use your primary attack feels awful, as well as the recovery time on its ram.
i hope it gets some tlc soon.
Hard agree. Just give me stun on initial break!!! That way I can get the leg break I need to escape without literally dying for it
what exactly is mixed packing? herbivores and carnivores together? or is it more complex than that?
Yes, herbivores/carnivores and different types of carnivores together.
@@dinometta ah thank you i can see why that would mess with the combat balance and be rough for players who want to play as intended. since the game is still in dev maybe they'll add debuffs for grouping with incompatible species
Again Ive said this before but small moments like that raptor being murdered for crossing yalls path makes you feel bad, and when you consider how there isnt cross species chat in the game, its almost like witnessing an actual dinosaur being killed, not a player. Again very small but little tedious differences like these make me love the game sometimes 🤣 also W for not joining in on that mob attack lol
One of the major flaws with pachy is now that it can't buck, a single sub omni can use all of its stamina in a pounce and put you on death bleed. And there is nearly nothing you can do about it. Pachy is pretty much required to play in groups, or else you get shredded by every omni, carno, and cera on the server over and over again.
The biggest issue I've had with gateway so far is attacks not doing anything. I've had situations where I pounce a stationary carno as an omni and I just stand there doing nothing. Or charging a headslam right into a target as a pachy and the animation just cancels (and not because I was holding it too long). It's frustrating putting a lot of time into growing something and dying not because of a lack of skill, but because the game's foundation is so unstable to the point of glitchy combat being the norm. In that aspect, pot and bob are miles ahead.
Personally, I like the quality of the isle. But I absolute the fragility of playables and lack of visual feedback. A single ambush from a bush is a death sentence. A carno charge from the pitch black darkness is a death sentence. Not to mention troodon, where 70% of your line of sight is grass, and 20% is the sky.
Yeah, hopefully they'll fix bucking ASAP. Because it really sucks dying simply because a raptor landed a pounce.
Carno charge right now is an entirely other issue that I could vent about quite heavily as well.
But by far pachy has been one of the most frustrating experiences I've ever had on gateway
I'd say thats a bit of a skill issue tbh, I have no problems dealing with omnis or carnos
@@theunturnedgamer1606 every single time I died as a pachy on this map was my fault/boldness so far. It can definitely fight/debuff what it cannot escape and what it can escape.. Can be debuffed too as a matter of fact :D The only thing I see as a common problem now in The Isle (and this is pretty much the case for other dino games too) is the constant balance changing in abilities and dmg outputs which always result in ppl being annoyed when they play their favorite dino again and a brand new learning curve awaits for them. Pachy is by no means a killing machine that can go soloing up to everything in mid tier class. That was silly from the beginning of this playable. And it is still the only dino that can run straight against carno´s charge and claim clean W after that encounter pretty much every time. So far my most played herb on gateway.
@@theunturnedgamer1606 If you fight players that suck, anyone can get the illusion that they're good at the game. Nothing I mentioned was a problem of skill 👍
I have fought many many many things and I highly doubt all of the were crap, even if they were killing 3 out of 5 omnis and 6/6 troodons as a solo generally suggests I know what im doing
MY FIRST CAMEO LES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I have to say, I love Gateway so much more than Spiro. But that's about where it ends. The map is begging to be explored and traversed through, but with the migration zones being bugged at the moment and it being in the northeast plains for what seems like 95% of the time, exploring is punished along with the rate food and water drops currently... Pachy definitely needs a rework, and so does the way Gatework works. It's currently leaving a lot to be desired. Still loving the game though just wishing a few smaller things were a bit more polished...
I heavily agree! I spent some time on carno recently(next video incoming) and got the chance to wander from South all the way to east and back again. Gateway is such a gorgeous map. I spotted another cave I haven't seen before that I want to check out on herra, traversed along a really gorgeous coastline, and trotted my way through several really nice forested areas. Breaks my heart a little seeing the broken zones(actually the other zones are often also active at the same time, people just don't realize it because they stay at NE) with not a soul in them. Plenty of AI in most though, so if you really want to explore, doing so as a small carnivore is quite doable. I'd recommend dilo or raptor for lower hunger time, but I managed okay even on carno with the fastest hunger drain in the game
@@dinometta Yeah the map is absolutely stunning the times I've gotten to explore it! It just feels like such a waste, such a big beautiful map yet there are systems in the game that essentially prevent/punish you from exploring feels very counter intuitive. I will say as someone who loves to play Cera I feel the hunger drop is ridiculously quick as a full grown (Also why is boar not on a Cera's diet?!) I've tried to explore in my group multiple times and it usually ends up with one of us starving, eating the one that starves, and running back to north east with our tails between our legs. I'll have to give Dilo a go!
Treat pachy like a goat stay near high places
Crackhead life sucks on gateway 💀😭😭
Also, *first*
nice the goat is first
Truth. So much
I believe than Pachy's stun should come back, but with a rework. Right now, Pachys are just, big dryos with the possibility of push or break bones. I know, the stun made pachy unfair and a nightmare in the previous updates with packs of cannis around. But should come back with a rework. Pachys headbut should waste a lot of stam, in exchange of a good headbutt, and a stronger hit if pachy is running and weaker if is standing. That way, with the new stam system, a pachy would still have the option of "fight or flee", that way also prevents pachys to chase down other dinos, penalizing be super aggro. If you fight, good, you can win but you risk to waste all your stam and... end game. But if you flee, pachys still have enought stamina.
Your fight with the carno, showed moments were clearly the hit conected, and still, the carno can bite. If ceras can lock vomit, and tenos can stun kick, i do not see why Pachys can't stun too.
I honestly would like pachy to simply only stun on initial break. That way if they get greedy and go for more than the three breaks, they're going to take a beating
@@dinometta yes, exactly, something like that. At least that way it would be entertaining. Pachys don't have a good life pool, nor are they fast and with their size they are not elusive. That plus the desynchronization errors, runnerbanding and lag... Play pachy is hell, as you mention. if the whole meta is try to go close to bonk, and i can't even do it, what sense is?. PS, you earned a new sub.
metta do u stream on twitch??
@@raphaelpfister8481 I don't, occasionally I stream here on RUclips though. I expect to stream more in the upcoming months as my kids go back to school
For the memes could you do dyro
Oh I'm sure I'll get to dryo!
I thought pachy was increadibly easy and low effort to grow after playing it so felt even more compelled to kos them. They are the most toxic dino on the isle IMO
Pachy deserves it, it could literally win a 1v1 with a carno if the pachy was skilled enough.
Yeah, I did 1v1 many carnos back then. I just would like to see it have stun on initial break. Allowing for 3 total stuns. That way if they get greedy they risk death
Crazy how a good Carno player never had to worry about something like this happening. Almost like it wasn't a problem, almost like it wasn't op.
@@karenboy1005 u're just being silly ig. a skilled pachy would 1v1 a carno in its golden age.
Pachy is destinatid to a nerf after its op state this happens in every game
The biggest issue is just that it is banished to the barren beach with no other playables. No one wants to go to the beach if they're only going to find pachy there. And no one wants to play pachy if they're going to sit in an empty section of the map for two hours
lol he got jump RIP😵🤣🤣
I just bought the game only so i could play as a pachycephalosaurus just to see that it's been nerfed 😭is it bad enough to refund
I don't think it's bad enough to refund. Especially as the game is constantly changing! I'd give it a chance. Pachy is quite good against dilo and when it's in herds
To all future Dilo players gamma works on gateway so making your night attack useless. lol you would think they would fix that.
Hopefully they'll fix it soon. But until then, the fog that closes in around you won't be stopped or otherwise negated by gamma use. So long as we can get the ambush and start the venom process, their cheating won't save them :]
what is gamma? is that a nvidia feature?
no all comps have it.its in the calibrate display color,even helps with there fog of war to see main dilo
@@PacoQuerak
makes your night vision look like what a dilo sees at night.really helps with stego at night
Is it better now?
@@borshelin i wish I could say yes. I played it again the other day. It's back to having very distant, lonely migrations. I also got canni'd immediately after reaching full growth. Overall very disappointing experience
6 months late here but screw it I'll complain about how inept the devs are here too.
"Ramming" animals have next to no ability to defend themselves from predators by, well, ramming. Headbutting and ramming is a specialized behavior for mate competition but is almost entirely useless for confronting predators, since they rely on a run up and throwing all your weight into it. Turns out, tossing yourself at the thing wanting to eat you is a poor survival strategy.
Now, modern headbutters are ungulates, which just so happen to have the advantage of four legs ending in sharp hooves. While headbutting is useless for self defense, if they have to they can still kick their predators and land some pretty devastating hits, but more often than not things like ibexes or bighorn sheep just rely on getting away from the predator before they can get caught, same as every prey animal. Pachy, being bipedal, has nothing. Its tail likely wasn't a reliable weapon, being more specialized for maintaining balance, and its legs don't seem well suited to kicking and its arms are practically useless. The real pachycephalosaurs almost certainly relied entirely on flight to survive predators.
But in game, just as the teno, pachy has far too little stamina. Only able to run for two minutes give or take, it has no chance to escape raptors and has to rely on speed and convenient foliage to escape cerato if it hasn't managed to break a leg. There is no escaping a carno if it sees you first. The only way to deal with a carno is to be the initiator of the fight, and then leave if it with the busted leg if it has no friends to deal with you.
Pachy is stuck with teno in animals that SHOULD have stupid amounts of stamina to facilitate outlasting predators in extended chases and relying on flight over fight, but instead has been forced to fight predators they have little chance against because they have herbivore hyper asthma.
Yeah, pachy is just miserable to play as. Even moreso now with grapple in the horde test, can't even fight off raptors anymore
Pa-key-se-fa-low-sor-us
I'm well aware of how to pronounce pachycephalosaurus. However, pronouncing the shortened version: pachy as pa-key sounds very similar to a slur used in the UK to degrade Pakistani people.
Therefore I'd rather pronounce it "wrong" than hurt someone's feelings or have RUclips's censorship algorithm coming after me for using what it believes is derogatory language, rather than the proper pronunciation of a dinosaur nickname.
@@dinometta huh. I did not know that. I apologize for my correction (this time)
@@GLeviathan I didn't either, but once someone made me aware of it I changed how I pronounced it in all my videos moving forward.
Wtfdym pachy is still broken as it can still Form op mixherds and raptors and dilos are no problem , i mean its obvious this 3 Cheeseburger high lightweight is not supposed to compete with cera or carno
My opinion on pachy is so mixed and I hate it, because Ive always loved carnivores and as a person who could pretty much call carno the official og isle main at least in evrima, it always annoyed me seeing over-aggro pachies bodying carnos just because of stun locking, but at the same time I now wish I could’ve gotten better as a carno player and feel terrible for pachy players, a pachy without stun can only barely fight raptors and carnos are just untouchable unless teamed up on, not to mention that carno has once again gotten an over-advantageous buff to where it doesnt even have acceleration, the only buff it needed in 6.5 was a less punishing cost fod its charge, maybe 5% or 7.5% stam cost but imo 10% for a charge vs a 10% for a tenos tail slam was too much, but again, nevermind on that because carno is officially op. I also really wish they kept carno a canni, I never experienced megapacks but cannibalism probably helped deal with that and it was also just a good way to test your skills against another creature with even stats. Also going back to pachy, I would keep the stun but somehow make it just *slightly* less punishing than it was before 6.5, that would make the matchup between carno and pachy 1v1s more in the favor of both creatures(unless the carno ambushes of course, which was super annoying on spiro because you only had tiny bushes for cover)
Edit: once again Ive typed a whole “comment,” more like “essay” on one of Metta’s videos 🤣
Also I hadnt even started the video really in the making of that comment but if you were mentioning pachy being broken as in op in 6 and before, Im glad you agree 🤣 but if not then its ok we have different opinions and biases.
Lmao welcome back! I always expect a nice essay when I see your name pop up!
I agree with most all of your points!
I think the best thing they could do to fix pachy is to allow it 3 stuns. 1 for each break. Once the target is broken, it can't be stunned anymore, not by the pachy that broke it, not by other pachys in the herd.
That way there's a bit more safety in going for a break to escape, but not so much that they just stunlock things to death.
@@dinomettathats a great idea, Ive stated myself before how sad it looked seeing an already helpless carno with 3 fractures (blinded and almost completely immobile) just getting bullied to death with nothing to do 🤣 not to mention the pachy had to hit it alot to kill it so you just waited for your death at that point. Glad you agreed! I ramble alot lol.
Hot take: deinos completely ruined the game. I hate it with a burning passion and the only thing that counter a deino is a stego or another deino. Complete and utter bs.
@@Pixx2266 for now, eventually there will be other semi-aquatics to contend with them
I just couldn’t with this game anymore. I refuse to play it until they decide to make survival bearable.
A prime example of this is Herrera, which is such a fun animal, but STRUGGLES to survive due to most of its diet being AI, and said AI, never spawning. The stamina regeneration system also hindered this creature, and like every creature, it disabled them from supporting their hunter drain. God genuinely forbid you wish to traverse the landscapes.
It actually impresses me how they manage to buff all the things that DIDNT need to be buffed and nerf all the things that NEEDED to be buffed.
Pachy is unplayable, Carno is quite ridiculous now, Tenontosaurus may as well have a damn pool noodle for a tail slam, and for some reason the kick does less damage now and more bleed…????, Herrera is unsustainable more often than not, Omniraptor is the best animal in the game, Deino still is just a “press one button and win” animal, Gallimimus is just fast food, Cerato barely benefits from being a corpse bully, Ptera is no longer fun.
Over the span of a few updates they managed to make pretty much every playable unfun in some capacity or another.
no manscaped sponsorship? unsubbed smh
Lmao
Pachy is the clunkiest, most unpolished, least satisfying and least fun thing to play in the entire game right now. I genuinely have more fun playing Troodon than this pos useless dino. It's only made worse by the arrival of Dilo.
Yup, I agree. I've had more fun playing stego than I did playing pachy for this video.
@@dinometta no other dinosaur has as many issues and inconsistencies and little goofy quirks that can completely screw it over. You literally fly over targets half the time if they're just a little too low to the ground, looking slightly downwards or to the side completely cancels your ram, if your target is just on a 2cm incline your ram will pretend like it's not there, and if you miss by one inch you go flying off a cliff and die, its preferred habitats are hilly and rocky coasts where you'll be thrown off cliffs more often than Dondi insults his playerbase, when you hit a large dino you trade half your hp for it, sometimes your ram recovery just decides to be 5 times slower than normal and you just stand there not moving after missing a ram, knocking anything down won't allow you to get a second hit because your dinosaur has brain damage and can't attack again for the next 7 ice ages, if you get friendly fired even once it's over, and overall its attacks are just the most predictable telegraphed trash in the entire game.
The way you pronounce “pachy” kind of makes me mad...
It's because pa-key, the proper way of pronouncing it sounds like a slur used in the UK to degrade people of Pakistani descent.
I'd rather mispronounce the nickname than potentially hurt someone or have RUclips's censorship algorithm slap me for thinking I'm using a slur in my video
@@dinometta ohhhhhhhhh that actually makes sense