I personally would take that flywheel and floater plate to a local automotive machine shop and get them ground. They will grind any high places off. That way the entire surface of the clutch disk is gripping. It also makes the clutch engagements a lot smoother.
Maybe I'm just grumpy today but there was a time when if a man said he'd be there in the morning to help you, come hell or high water he'd be there bright and early ready to go. Seems these days no ones word means shit. It's sad but if you know 1 or 2 people you can really count on you are a rich man. Keep hammering away, we're pulling for ya.
One of the most valuable things my dad ever said to me as a kid growing up was "a man is only as good as his word." If you tell someone you will do something do it. If not your wasting his time and time is the most valuable thing in life.
You do know the right to repair act applies to electronics and not anything else right? I mean it cracks me up when people say this but yet don't complain about the car they drive because auto manufacturers have been doing it for years.
Personally, I would not put it back together without a new rear seal. While I totally agree that the newer parts' quality lacks a lot to be desired, it still would be better than one that you know for a fact has hundreds of hours on it. Just my opinion and it's all you get for free nowadays.
I admire your tenacity even working with one hand - your "can do" attitude will always serve you well. Hopefully now the tractor will go back together without big problems and serve you well for several more years. Hang in there - you are doing fine.
You got love older equipment, when it was mechanical and no EFI. You get the old girl fixed up and painted everyone will be envious of her. Hopefully this week we’ll see her up and running again. Thanks for sharing Chris, it’s tough not having the help. If you could get a little more work from other places you could hire a employee. To bad there’s not a old timer that’s retired looking for a little part time work. Someone with heavy equipment repair knowledge.
We did ours in the dealership 40 years ago they had a overhead crane gantry and never took the front end off We went through ours engine full rebuild new clutch then we did the drop box and transmission and all axel bearings Equals new tractor plus we had just had a bumper crop and it was close to tax time 😜
Had the exact same finger bolt broke on a 5020 last year. Managed to change all three bolts through the inspection plate on the bottom. It was a bit of a challenge but it worked.
I for one am learning and enjoying this repair job. Like you I have never been into this part of tractors. Those I have worked for always sent the tractor to town if they had to be split. Otherwise I have done several different things to these tractors. All happened to be John Deere except one Minneapolis G VI. Thanks for teaching and showing me how to work on their clutches. Blessings.
I tip my hat to you. You never give up. We used to have a JD 7020 so am aware of some of the issues you are dealing with. Besides, if you have the time, the will power and most of the all the shop manual, you will save yourself a ton of money. There used to be an Ford implement dealership in our area back in the early 70's and they had a sign on the wall quoting hourly shop rates: $40 an hour if you watch - $50 if you talk - $100 if you help!! Never forget that sign!! As a matter of fact, whenever I was at the dealership, I don't recall seeing anyone watching, talking or helping!! MUST HAVE READ THE SIGN! Take care of that hand my friend. Michael Grant - New York!
As a mechanic of 40 years I’m here to tell ya do the rear main seal I have seen too many other mechanics do the seal for free because they were there and didn’t do the seal when they had the flywheel off doing clutches.
When I was vacationing in sunny southeast Asia in the late sixties I was given a pair of shrapnel hemostats that said made in USSR. I think thats all I kept from my two years there. Oh, I also got a lot of disdain when I got back to the US.
Those Russian bearings are not original. Someone has been in there before. Items made in Russia prior to the early 90s where labeled “made in the USSR” since Russia was a part of the Soviet union.
Awesome Moms rock!!!!! Yay on the healing. Congrats on getting her split and apart. Yes, working by yourself and waiting for a hand is an extremely frustrating situation. The bluing and kaleidoscope coloring is from heat and may well be hard spots, I'd run it past the machine shop and at least have it surfaced. Everyone's feelings on when and what to do there are kind of different. NOT that you don't already now any of that. Woo-hoo on cleaning the heck out of everything and tossing some paint on bare spots while she's open. I wish you continued motivation and encouragement; I'd buy Mom a flower while you are out even if you have nicer ones around the farm.
Very important to get those clutch fingers adjusted correctly. Hopefully you have access to a rear main seal install tool, they can be a bear to get in straight. Be cautious going back in it’s easy to bend the hub of the discs if the splines catch been there done it
If you'll be waiting a few days for parts you could have someone resurface the flywheel too maybe. Some auto parts places do it if they have a shop attached to the store or a machinist that does engine machining. It usually costs around $140 I think.
@@mikecoy7243 he pulled a heavy duty button clutch out so if he faces the flywheel he needs to take the outer lip of the flywheel off also so the height of the pressure plate is in spec or the pressure plate wont have as much pressure on the clutch resulting in less life
Its nice to see the big horse should be up and running and she will be strong again it would be great if you had the time now to give it some paint well I am looking forward to seeing 7520 back at work.
I did the rear main seal while did mine too.just for safety sake too....it's a preventive measures and u have everything apart too....do the rear main seal now too
I spent 35 years with my hands greasy like that, that’s what happens when you work for a living! lol, I worked in the coal mines for years, I’m retired now but I have about 30 acres that keeps me busy now!
Im curious how much youll have wrapped up in parts, and how much it would of cost taking it to a dealer to be done. But you are right, if yiure in that deep, replace all the parts. Too many people dont look long term..........
It's tough going trying to rip a tractor on your own like that... especially a complicated split like that. We're kinda lucky over here in having a few mechanics who will come to you and help out with repairs like this. We're usually just waiting a day or so and when he's finished he moves on to the next project. You just pay for his time and don't have to make work for him. There's a few floating about our area with mobile workshops. I don't know if you've got similar service like that... tax deductible too.
Looks like you're doing good !! Not sure if after market kit would be any better or worse in Denver used to be a mobile truck could resurface flywheel and supply all the parts, still wondering if you have some other linkage issues ? I know u will get it right
Read a story about a yank, or a brit living in Russia, he asked a Russian friend about the best brand of a piece of equipment to get, he got that brand and it kept braking down. He confronted the Russian friend and Russian friend said no, no it's good brand, very easy to fix, and parts are cheap. Story opened my mind to not be closed minded about some things.
If I lived in your area I would be over there in a minute, just buy me a cold drink. But I'm on the west coast :( Hopefully you got some experienced viewer in your neck of the woods willing to help
Wish I was closer to you, I'd love to lend a hand just to learn about farming and the equipment. No payment necessary, the knowledge would be payment enough haha!
Hey Duffy. I had a JD 5020 & did the pto shaft shaft seals in the bell housing, never doing any work with the tractor it. I didn't realize the clutch slipped because them pressure plate springs where weak, it was double sprigged. Anyway my pressure plate had holes in it for you to fit 3 or4 1/4 unc treaded bar & nuts to get the pressure plate bolts of safely. I cant see holes on yours. so more than likely you are going to need some threaded bar same size as your bolts say if you got 8 bolts holding your pressure plate you need 4 to do it equally, to pull it together or you aint going to get the bolts in. Check your book again to see if it say anything. Nice work though, your giving it ago. Regards from the UK.
That is sad. I fully understand the reasons for keeping the farm and your affairs separate but you're family! It is to the farm's advantage to get that fixed. That will compact those bunks far more efficiently than all the other tractors put together. Where were any of the crowd that was hanging around last December when you brought the wounded Duramax home? None of them could have given you a hand for a few hours? You've got a lot of grit. If you ever get down to North Franklin ask Rich H. where I live, drop in and I'll buy you lunch
So hope while so stripped you take timecto fully replace old hoses and repaint such a sweet time to give it a full face lift. Is a sweet tractor be so awesome seeing it shiny???
the problem between the normal us citizen and russia is that all the tv and radio hosts makes fun of the drunk russians ........... but they are not all drunk and its the biggest country in the world and they also are just as good as anybody else ....... a little plus the Versatile company today is owned by a huge company called Rostselmash
I’d leave well enough alone with the rear main. That’s just me though. I get that you’ve got it apart, but if you take a good seal out and mess up installing the new one, you’ve created issues that you don’t need. Can’t wait to see her run again, love this kind of video.
Do the dam seal .If it was some one else you would tell them to do it .Also pop the seal out of that pilot bearing and put extra grease in it and put seal back in
Doesn't "the farm" understand getting this tractor fixed is paramount to getting "the farm's" land prepped? I don't understand that at all. Speaking of foreign parts get this. I am working on a 1940 B Deere tractor transmission. All the bearings have to be replaced. All the original ones were Timken made in the USA. All the replacement ones came from Japan and Germany both of which we fought in WWII. Talk about irony. I searched for weeks trying to find bearings. Most came from Deere via a foreign country. So much for originality. Just have to use what you can find now in this global economy we now live in... I would think about all the help you didn't get the next time "the farm" needs help too...
Nothing wrong with German or Japanese bearings, or machinery. So your gradndads generation fought them in a war? So what? Your great granddad generation were probably made up of 50% German immigrants...
I personally would take that flywheel and floater plate to a local automotive machine shop and get them ground. They will grind any high places off. That way the entire surface of the clutch disk is gripping. It also makes the clutch engagements a lot smoother.
A farmer that doesn't get dirty isn't a farmer , he's a landlord. Love your videos.
Maybe I'm just grumpy today but there was a time when if a man said he'd be there in the morning to help you, come hell or high water he'd be there bright and early ready to go. Seems these days no ones word means shit. It's sad but if you know 1 or 2 people you can really count on you are a rich man.
Keep hammering away, we're pulling for ya.
I hear ya, if I say I'll be there at 0900, I'll be there 15mins before that.
One of the most valuable things my dad ever said to me as a kid growing up was "a man is only as good as his word." If you tell someone you will do something do it. If not your wasting his time and time is the most valuable thing in life.
Truth!!! We are still out here!
Ain't that the truth. Everyone willing to get help. But you need a hand and it's inconvenient for everyone else
@@dtrlfilms My policy is if I'm late it's because I'm dead.
I can only hope my son turns out like this fella one of the hardest working young men I've seen in a long time
Dang you are the man. Bunged finger. Tore the tractor all apart. No help. Keep the faith.
Can't beat, Right to Repair.
You do know the right to repair act applies to electronics and not anything else right? I mean it cracks me up when people say this but yet don't complain about the car they drive because auto manufacturers have been doing it for years.
Personally, I would not put it back together without a new rear seal. While I totally agree that the newer parts' quality lacks a lot to be desired, it still would be better than one that you know for a fact has hundreds of hours on it. Just my opinion and it's all you get for free nowadays.
I admire your tenacity even working with one hand - your "can do" attitude will always serve you well. Hopefully now the tractor will go back together without big problems and serve you well for several more years. Hang in there - you are doing fine.
You got love older equipment, when it was mechanical and no EFI. You get the old girl fixed up and painted everyone will be envious of her.
Hopefully this week we’ll see her up and running again. Thanks for sharing Chris, it’s tough not having the help. If you could get a little more work from other places you could hire a employee. To bad there’s not a old timer that’s retired looking for a little part time work. Someone with heavy equipment repair knowledge.
In Soviet Russia, you do not split tractor, tractor splits you.
This fix is a major job, glad you got your parts on time now if only people would show up as promised. Thanks for sharing
We did ours in the dealership 40 years ago they had a overhead crane gantry and never took the front end off
We went through ours engine full rebuild new clutch then we did the drop box and transmission and all axel bearings
Equals new tractor plus we had just had a bumper crop and it was close to tax time 😜
Had the exact same finger bolt broke on a 5020 last year. Managed to change all three bolts through the inspection plate on the bottom. It was a bit of a challenge but it worked.
I sure wished you were closer. I would be there in a heartbeat.
Looking good and don't blame you for changing it all whilst you're in there.
Replace the rear main seal otherwise we'll regret it
You're doing a awsome job not many people left that would take on a job that big with little to know help
I will be praying that it all goes back together just like new 🙏🙏🙏
Like that's going to help
I for one am learning and enjoying this repair job. Like you I have never been into this part of tractors. Those I have worked for always sent the tractor to town if they had to be split. Otherwise I have done several different things to these tractors. All happened to be John Deere except one Minneapolis G VI. Thanks for teaching and showing me how to work on their clutches. Blessings.
If I weren't swamped haying solo I'd run down and give you a hand for the day. Projects like that go 3x easier with two people.
I tip my hat to you. You never give up. We used to have a JD 7020 so am aware of some of the issues you are dealing with. Besides, if you have the time, the will power and most of the all the shop manual, you will save yourself a ton of money. There used to be an Ford implement dealership in our area back in the early 70's and they had a sign on the wall quoting hourly shop rates: $40 an hour if you watch - $50 if you talk - $100 if you help!! Never forget that sign!! As a matter of fact, whenever I was at the dealership, I don't recall seeing anyone watching, talking or helping!! MUST HAVE READ THE SIGN! Take care of that hand my friend. Michael Grant - New York!
As a mechanic of 40 years I’m here to tell ya do the rear main seal I have seen too many other mechanics do the seal for free because they were there and didn’t do the seal when they had the flywheel off doing clutches.
When I was vacationing in sunny southeast Asia in the late sixties I was given a pair of shrapnel hemostats that said made in USSR. I think thats all I kept from my two years there. Oh, I also got a lot of disdain when I got back to the US.
Looks like my garage ! Took my 20 min moving junk to get to my metal laith the outher day.Take it easy on that paw
great video never seen the inside of tractor bell housing. Thanks
I sure wish Wisconsin was was near ur state i would be there in a heartbeat with my service truck ready help u get that old girl fixed
you are kick ass, doing all that work, coming on up. we'll see you with some sponsors soon
This man & his channel certainly are worthy of some sponsorships!
Those Russian bearings are not original. Someone has been in there before. Items made in Russia prior to the early 90s where labeled “made in the USSR” since Russia was a part of the Soviet union.
I get caterpillar parts from the Russian Federation
Im betting that tractor may have been in the Soviet Union at one time during it's lifetime.
Correct, they would not have labeled anything
"Made In Russia" when the commies were still in power.
If i were only closer i would come and help ya, but good job there my friend.
Awesome Moms rock!!!!!
Yay on the healing.
Congrats on getting her split and apart. Yes, working by yourself and waiting for a hand is an extremely frustrating situation.
The bluing and kaleidoscope coloring is from heat and may well be hard spots, I'd run it past the machine shop and at least have it surfaced. Everyone's feelings on when and what to do there are kind of different. NOT that you don't already now any of that.
Woo-hoo on cleaning the heck out of everything and tossing some paint on bare spots while she's open.
I wish you continued motivation and encouragement; I'd buy Mom a flower while you are out even if you have nicer ones around the farm.
Duffy do it all.do it all while your there!!!!. great videos.
THE GOOD THING IS IT IS SUMMER AND NICE WEATHER WORK ON IT OUTSIDE
Duffy time to make time in winter hours too start organizing shop. looks like you have a lot of room in that shop I wish I had
Great video! I enjoy watching and learning as you are doing the clutch job.👍
Loving these videos, can't wait for it to be back together running. You are the man.
Very important to get those clutch fingers adjusted correctly. Hopefully you have access to a rear main seal install tool, they can be a bear to get in straight. Be cautious going back in it’s easy to bend the hub of the discs if the splines catch been there done it
If you'll be waiting a few days for parts you could have someone resurface the flywheel too maybe. Some auto parts places do it if they have a shop attached to the store or a machinist that does engine machining. It usually costs around $140 I think.
I won't do a clutch without resurfacing the flywheel! Any machine shop that has a lathe that will swing 20" can do it!
@@mikecoy7243 he pulled a heavy duty button clutch out so if he faces the flywheel he needs to take the outer lip of the flywheel off also so the height of the pressure plate is in spec or the pressure plate wont have as much pressure on the clutch resulting in less life
@@gregkoenig9200 that's not a prob when you have someone that has a lathe
Lots of fun glad your able to do. Have a good day.
Its nice to see the big horse should be up and running and she will be strong again it would be great if you had the time now to give it some paint well I am looking forward to seeing 7520 back at work.
I'd guess old Russian would be better than modern china. These days a lot of metal is badly recycled crap.
The Russians couldn't run a government but damnit they made solid machines!
I did the rear main seal while did mine too.just for safety sake too....it's a preventive measures and u have everything apart too....do the rear main seal now too
I guess its a good time to hot wash everything down before reassembling.
Great video as always. Keep the videos coming. Dirty hands comes from working hands
Your work area looks clean to me. =) Great Video. Keep on rockin!
I spent 35 years with my hands greasy like that, that’s what happens when you work for a living! lol, I worked in the coal mines for years, I’m retired now but I have about 30 acres that keeps me busy now!
I just had Big Bad John, Loadin' Coal, Sixteen Tons, John Henry, L&N Don't Stop Here Anymore, and Coal Miner's daughter go through my head at once
Im curious how much youll have wrapped up in parts, and how much it would of cost taking it to a dealer to be done. But you are right, if yiure in that deep, replace all the parts. Too many people dont look long term..........
I'll be roughly 4k in parts. I'm sure at a dealership they would have 60-70 man hours on it at 85+ dollars an hour. Probably be a 10k bill
Oops sorry I didn't finish the video before posting. Glad you got all new stuff.
Love your videos, keep doing what you are. Tip, Machine your flywheel or you will have a high chance that the clutch will shudder. :)
As long as you’re in there change anything that remotely looks like it needs changed. That’s the rule on jobs like this.
I grew up on a small dairy farm in Vermont. I noticed you had De laval milkers. We had Universal.
"And with that being said......" I think that has become your crutch phrase.
Yep if your that deep might as well replace what you can
Can't wait to see if that takes care of the shifting issue. If you have the service manual you will have no problem putting it back together.
It's tough going trying to rip a tractor on your own like that... especially a complicated split like that. We're kinda lucky over here in having a few mechanics who will come to you and help out with repairs like this. We're usually just waiting a day or so and when he's finished he moves on to the next project. You just pay for his time and don't have to make work for him. There's a few floating about our area with mobile workshops. I don't know if you've got similar service like that... tax deductible too.
I like watching these videos because it reminds me why my family ran a Versatile
i love that old tractor and the fact it gets used and abused then fixed then used again make me love it more
Great job!
Looks like you're doing good !! Not sure if after market kit would be any better or worse in Denver used to be a mobile truck could resurface flywheel and supply all the parts, still wondering if you have some other linkage issues ? I know u will get it right
Great work with only one hand, plus i can understand the farm has its needs also… But, it work out at the end
Made a good call on replacing it all.
nice video. Maybe you should considering giving the front part a powerwashing ? ;-)
Read a story about a yank, or a brit living in Russia, he asked a Russian friend about the best brand of a piece of equipment to get, he got that brand and it kept braking down. He confronted the Russian friend and Russian friend said no, no it's good brand, very easy to fix, and parts are cheap. Story opened my mind to not be closed minded about some things.
I would love to be there to help you. I love working on old equipment like that
If I lived in your area I would be over there in a minute, just buy me a cold drink. But I'm on the west coast :( Hopefully you got some experienced viewer in your neck of the woods willing to help
Wish I was closer to you, I'd love to lend a hand just to learn about farming and the equipment. No payment necessary, the knowledge would be payment enough haha!
Do you like that masters choice corn i almost planted some this year but I didn't know anybody that had planted it so I was just curious about it
Hey Duffy. I had a JD 5020 & did the pto shaft shaft seals in the bell housing, never doing any work with the tractor it. I didn't realize the clutch slipped because them pressure plate springs where weak, it was double sprigged. Anyway my pressure plate had holes in it for you to fit 3 or4 1/4 unc treaded bar & nuts to get the pressure plate bolts of safely. I cant see holes on yours. so more than likely you are going to need some threaded bar same size as your bolts say if you got 8 bolts holding your pressure plate you need 4 to do it equally, to pull it together or you aint going to get the bolts in. Check your book again to see if it say anything. Nice work though, your giving it ago. Regards from the UK.
That is sad. I fully understand the reasons for keeping the farm and your affairs separate but you're family! It is to the farm's advantage to get that fixed. That will compact those bunks far more efficiently than all the other tractors put together.
Where were any of the crowd that was hanging around last December when you brought the wounded Duramax home? None of them could have given you a hand for a few hours?
You've got a lot of grit. If you ever get down to North Franklin ask Rich H. where I live, drop in and I'll buy you lunch
Man, if I was closer id help I enjoy the clips but I'd like doing some things to.
"Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!" - Armageddon
One of my all time favorite movie lines
So hope while so stripped you take timecto fully replace old hoses and repaint such a sweet time to give it a full face lift. Is a sweet tractor be so awesome seeing it shiny???
If when you put the tractor back together and it still dosen"t work right, you can blame Putin.
I knew you were going to change that rear main seal (you don't like to half ass it)
Definitely recomend you let a machine shop clean up those clutch surfaces. Good chance it will chatter and engage funny mixing new with old parts.
Duff man, you can make oil & grease fun to watch!
I enjoyed every second of that video keep up the good work
Great video Duffy if you ever need a hand I live down in the reading area hit me up would love you help and learn!
the problem between the normal us citizen and russia is that all the tv and radio hosts makes fun of the drunk russians ........... but they are not all drunk and its the biggest country in the world and they also are just as good as anybody else ....... a little plus the Versatile company today is owned by a huge company called Rostselmash
Hey now you can tighten the throttle linkage!
Wish we lived closer because I'd be there in a min lol
I’d leave well enough alone with the rear main. That’s just me though. I get that you’ve got it apart, but if you take a good seal out and mess up installing the new one, you’ve created issues that you don’t need.
Can’t wait to see her run again, love this kind of video.
Just the cost of one Amtrak ticket, could of had plenty of help 🧔👌
Do it while you got it apart, the seal will be easy now, might aswell while it’s out
I would have the flywheel turned.
There you said it, "pilot bearing". The the throwout bearing was the big jobbie you first came to. I have never seen a Russian bearing.
You need to stop hurting your self, at least your getting better
It's Yenko damage. When he goes in to goose rage he turns green and becomes unstoppable.
do crank seals and maybe water pump as well whilst its out
Keep it up bud your doing great the self reliance only makes you wiser, tougher, and a bad a$$ dude...🤣👍🤣👌🏻🇺🇸
Should be able to get the kit comes with pressure plate clutch and alignment tool and bearings
I have the same stereo in my shop.
Check the crankshaft damperer and seal while the engine is out?
You made that look easy. I bet that hole tractor was made in the Soviet Union
Do your very best and you can say, I did my best to make the 7520 whole. Listen to what people tell you if you trust them.
While you have it apart you can clean the frame
wish i lived out that way id help ya!
Do the dam seal .If it was some one else you would tell them to do it .Also pop the seal out of that pilot bearing and put extra grease in it and put seal back in
Doesn't "the farm" understand getting this tractor fixed is paramount to getting "the farm's" land prepped? I don't understand that at all. Speaking of foreign parts get this. I am working on a 1940 B Deere tractor transmission. All the bearings have to be replaced. All the original ones were Timken made in the USA. All the replacement ones came from Japan and Germany both of which we fought in WWII. Talk about irony. I searched for weeks trying to find bearings. Most came from Deere via a foreign country. So much for originality. Just have to use what you can find now in this global economy we now live in... I would think about all the help you didn't get the next time "the farm" needs help too...
Nothing wrong with German or Japanese bearings, or machinery.
So your gradndads generation fought them in a war? So what?
Your great granddad generation were probably made up of 50% German immigrants...
@@nigelmchugh5541 Wasn't trying to be political just saying it is hard to find stuff made in the USA anymore.
@@johnnyholland8765 Fair enough, comes across as a bit political when you throw in mention of a war from 75 years ago!
And I'm sorry, "The Farm" would not cut anyone loose to assist with repairing a piece of equipment that does work for "The Farm"? That's just stupid.
I would replace anything that looked the least bit worn plus any hard to reach hydraulic hoses while you are into it
Is this the biggest challenge you have faced repairing equipment that you own?