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It's so funny how people fight over TVs. Imagine if people argued over refrigerators and dish washers, like that lol. No way my Samsung fridge gets cold faster than that crappy LG, my Maytag gets dishes way cleaner than your Bosch, yours is trash. I guess people need to be assured they purchased the right thing. If YOU like your TV, than who cares? All these TVs, are awesome today and if you didn't have them next to each other, you wouldn't know or care about any differences. You aren't going to enjoy a movie more watching on the QD Oled, over the Mini led. Just get the biggest size you can and enjoy.
KG you do not have to explain yourself. The difference between a QD-OLED while not vast, it is striking. I could eyeball it just from the very beginning of this video in my VA panel. Nice video ! Your old videos helped me decide for a qdoled over a miniled and I thank you for that.
Yeah but switch the Qn900d to SDR. The S95D has to remain in HDR since it’s going to look like your phone turned to 1/3 brightness. Now, how do they look? I don’t know but without comparing each in their native habitats, there’s no way to know.
@@RodMurray777 Full screen, the mini leds get much brighter. It's the HDR highlights that are brighter on the qdoled, because the mini leds have to tone it back a little, to stop blooming. Really, unless you are in a bright room, it's the highlights that are most important and impactful.
Wow, thanks KG! With this short and sweet video you've managed to convince me to try the S95E next year. The main reasons I bought the QN900D was for the premium quality, size, durability and brightness.. But I think you're right, for my primary activity with these devices being gaming, I should go with the QD-OLED. I heard that Samsung's next year's model might be 83" - or 85"? If that's true I'll definitely make the switch. Gaming is all about lighting, motion and contrast. I mean in in these videos there even appears to be more detail, picture and colour spectrum visible in the QD-OLED. Ah well, live and learn. Thank you KG 🙏
I appreciate the comment and the support. QN900D is still an awesome TV even when gaming LCD just always falls short of OLED but its still a very enjoyable experience and you got that size advantage, I don’t see S95E being above 77” for QD OLED TVs. I much prefer gaming on OLED when possible but I still love gaming on my 120” projector setup because of size.
Got an s90c and did a service menu mod to bring the peak brightness in hdr to around 2000 nits max in a small window, but the most amazing thing it how much it brought up full window brightness, the tv is like an ips LCD full screen in terms of brightness and has much better color vibrancy. Even in SDR the fullscreen brightness is insanely high and watching anime without the screen dimming at all is an experience to behold with these vibrant colors and perfect contrast. Bought it for only 940, insanely good deal and the best tv I could imagine honestly, only thing I could hope for a future tv is the re-introducing of good 3d with this amazing brightness, possibly glasses free like on some tablets, other than that it's just perfection.
KG, doesn't listen to those buffoons. I've only watched a few of your videos mainly to do with the B9 (which I own), and you were clearly just giving your honest, subjective opinion of it, which is all anyone can ask for.
Thanks yeah Samsung did an amazing job with the S95D this year, its top 2 this year of all TVs out for most and last year I didn't feel the want for an S95C over a S90C this year I definitely see the difference between S95D and S90D its clearly better and thats what I was hoping for from Samsung, its just unfortunate they went with a controversial screen coating that not everyone will like.
@@TechWithKG I bought the S95D 77inch from Crapton and Moore and it will be professional calibrated and supervised by Vincent Teoh himself. It was cheaper than the G4 77inch and A95l 77inch, plus I play around it in store and really liked it. Super happy, waiting for it to be delivered.
@@TheGodfather1022 How is it? I keep going back and forth between choosing LG G4 & S95D 55" mainly for bedroom gaming & Netflix etc. I'm also planning to get the Crampton & Moore calibration service as well 👍🏻
@@Mob-Psycho100 Get the S95D, much cheaper and it is really good. G4 is also good tho I have the 65inch G4. 77inch S95D for the price I got it for fully professionally calibrated was too good to pass.
I really think the oleds have a much better picture /contrast but it would really annoy me everyday to think about a possible burn-in. Especially while gaming (huds).
@@dante19890 How recent is modern? I have a 2 year old QD-OLED. It had burn in within the first year I got it. Also saw a post of someone showing their S90D with burn in within two months of owning it. Mine was from gaming. I can see the mini map burnt into the top right corner and the action bars along the bottom of the screen.
@@dante19890that is not true. Oled fan boys will say it doesn't happen anymore it's a thing of the past bla bla bla IF you don't do this and you don't do that and so on lool oleds have more rules than a gremlin😂😂
@@PedroBorges-tt6jo I have an almost 10 yr old LG 3D oled (no one makes 3Dtvs anymore)...so far no problems with burn in. You'd have to game 6+hr sessions daily of the same thing for burn in. With that said I just ordered the 900D. LG has HDMI issues & years later on newest oled G4 looks like people are still having issues. I'm hoping I don't regret getting the 900D I just ordered the 990D sound system with it.
Not only does the oled have a cleaner picture, it also comes with the added benefit of less overall lag and latency compared to led. The choice is a no brainer if your primary use is going to be gaming. Especially online competitive gaming.
As someone who is interested in the S90D and the QN90D I’m Just wondering ,what settings did you have for the QN900d Local dimming? Was it high or low? I’d much appreciate it. Great video btw.
Thanks! Can't remember completely but I believe medium for maximum HDR impact for the highlights was where I landed with the QN900D. I saw the QN90D a few times but never had it in I have to say S90D was much better and I saw this when I had QN90C vs S90C (that is up on the channel) , S90C beat it especially in game mode.
Yeah, honestly I think I will have to go with the S90D, I’m only just worried about it’s longevity but I think it’ll be worth it, plus I get a little discount on Samsung tech as well so hopefully a Black Friday deal will stack on top of that lol.
I thought the same one on right was the oled because it was like warmer or more saturated ; once you reveal the one on the left is the oled suddenly it becomes more accurate to my eyes .
Would of been cool to do triple comparison but I kind of just wanted to do a Samsung vs Samsung for their most premium OLED and most premium LCD, also didn't overlap with the G4 being with me and thats the only one I would of thrown in.
Is the backlight better outside of game mode? Only reason I'm considering Mini-Led is price at 75" which the Qm851 should hit $1300ish on BF. Also, do newer Oleds no longer dim overtime if playing with static HUD content?
@itwasntoptional5114 only thing I read and heard on video was that the backlight is static in game mode on the qm851, raising the blacks. Is that true?
I just ordered the Hisense 55-inch U8N. I have a much older 7 year old sony, so any upgrade is going to be vastly superior to the old tech I currently have. That being said, I primarily bought a new TV for games on my PS5, im really wondering if I should shell out a bit extra for the LG C3 series model. My tv arrives today , and this video showcases the different image quality , and even recording it on a camera shows a vast difference, I can only imagine how much more crisp the OLED looks in person. What do you think? Should I just return the Mini Led and order the LG C3? It's about $400 bucks more, I intend on keeping this TV for years to come, and I dont mind spending a bit extra for a vastly superior gaming experience.
Lol you answered your own question I've got the 85u8n it's amazing coming from a 8yr old Vizio.. it was 1,699 for the 85u8n But I just watch sports casual gamer and it's in my living room not a dark a gaming den... Return yes but 85u8n or 55inch OLED
Funny that you used the glasses reference. I was thinking that to myself as I looked at the lighting before you said it. It’s like driving at night with glasses on
So, if you are just going to use tv for movies, tv shows, news from streaming apps. So the 77 S90D would be better than the 85in QN90D in light controlled evnement from 10.5-11 feet away. I use the tv about 4-5 hours a day. How much light bleed/blooming does the QN90D have compared to the S90D Oled tv. Is it like 90% of oled black.
qd oleds dim when there is blue on the screen, qleds dont have much agressive dimming as qd oled. also s95d also gives blooming because of the matte screen.
Hey Tech with KG! Not sure if im remebering this right but im hearing some S90D's are 1000 nits and not 1200 nits that was reviewed by rtings? Are the 1000 nits woled and outside lf the US? I plan to buy a 65 in the states, i know its a guaranteed qd-oled but is there a chance it could be 1000 nits and not 1200 nits or is that just a woled thing?
game mode or 1st person shooter mode on q90d does increase gamma and therefore looks foggy. i would definitely do another test with game mode off, you will be surprised how good it looks.
Have you or classy tech done picture settings, and game settings for the S90D or S95D? I want to purchase the S 90 D but I only see settings for the S90C and the S95C.
Hey kg love your work man, can i ask what you think of yhe motion on the qd oleds? I just got a s95c and coming from a lg g4 the motion seems very jittery
Yeah oled with always win. However the mini led tvs can get very close to oleds if you use 6500k white bias lighting. It significantly improves contrast, reduces blooming, clouding, edge blooming, dse, improves colors etc, basically reduces all lcd issues. So imo everyone who owns an lcd should use it. I used to own a samsung frame qled so i know. It would be great if you can redo this comparison with 6500k white bias lighting on the mini led tv just so that we can get an idea how close it can get to an oled.
I understand your description of the two different technologies kg and appreciate it. I will deffo go oled next time. I just couldnt afford it this time round. Having said that my qn95c is just blowing my mind right now. And the lights do look brighter on the mini led in your video. I enjoy the gaming brigtness on mini led bud
Oled is better but stupidly expensive in comparison to led for a big one and yes, burn in ans heat is a thing. I just see it as nit pickey now that many led tvs supprt vrr and local dimming where my 85" X90L is awesome with my ps5 with contrast, gamma and black level tweaks. I could afford a big oled but I'm happy enough with a huge tv that performs great and didn't cost an unreasonable amount these oleds so. They are price gouging until the hype goes down and they become the new normal OR led will get so good with brightness but perfect contrast and less energy consumption that they will remain around while oled is extinct like plasma.
Large OLEDs are expensive no doubt, I think right now thats the best case I have for the LCD TVs they have the larger size market on lock down. This we are seeing 77" OLED TVs for $1599 and 83" for $2499 so its getting lower slowly but surely, but yes you make a great point about the size advantage with pricing in mind.
@@TechWithKG Yeah, I think the silver lining is the competition is strong. Sony, which I've always liked their processing most will be forced to drop their prices. TCL is making a push as amazing quality for size and value and OLED are getting bigger brighter, cheaper with less issues like burn in 🤙
Exactly. I currently own an Oled but want to go larger to 75". Qm851 should hit about $1300 on BF which I'm considering. Although I can afford it, I don't feel like spending double for similar size Oled.
Blooming... blooming everywhere. I can't with backlit TVs, not yet anyway. Maybe one day when the number of dimming zones goes up to at least 50k or something like that, then MAYBE it'll start competing, but it seems too far fetched right now
One of the biggest issues with OLED sets is the life span it's not going to last as long as Qled or sets of that type something to consider when paying out a few k for a tv.
KG, you basically destroyed the QN900D here. It's ridiculous how Samsung's flagship "8K" tv that's 2x the cost still performs worse because it's not an OLED. Goes to show that just because you slap 8K on the label and put an $8000 price tag on it, doesn't mean you're getting the best quality. ~Scott
You can substitute any premium LCD like Sony Bravia 9 for the QN900D and it be the same thing, it’s nothing against the QN900D like I said on its own it performs great its just a technology mismatch against a QD OLED though especially with games in mind.
I agree 100%... It's so obvious that Mini-led or any LCD based technology can't compete with Oled's by watching any content. Yet people jump in these forums and praise the Bravia 9 simply because it's a Sony...they could literally release anything and charge what they want now...I admit their marketing and hype is second to none but anyone with an eagle eye knows better
It all depends on how deep is your pocket. Back in the days a regular LED 100 inch TV would run you over $100K. Now you can get a 100" mini LED on sale for $1.8K. A 100" OLED TV would run you....maybe about $25K+. Nothing is free in life.
All ima say is im not smart with tv. But s90d vs lgc1 my s90d is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER. Omg its like very inky, neon color with pop. Its crisp and smooth
@@TechWithKG chillin waiting to see what the deal is going to be for Black Friday and the holiday season. I want a Panasonic OLED but I want the price to drop a little. I want the Z85A 55 inch for my bedroom viewing.
@@michaelwyckoff7593 Oh yeah I hope Panasonic is going to be competitive with their pricing I know they briefly had the Z95A at 2,500 when everyone had their premium OLED at 3k so its possible we can see a price drop on these Panasonic OLED TVs.
i have an lg 48 inch monitor and it looks great but sometimes it does crush blacks and color banding is annoying with movies and youtube content, i have a sony x90l 65 inch and its not as bright as my lg monitor i do enjoy playing games on it better than on my lg monitor because of fear for burn in, there are more color options on tv than on monitors
For the same price we'd get a much bigger Mini LED and the quality delta against OLED is not that dramatic anymore. I'd still apply the basic rule, it depends on room ambient light : If you live in a cave = OLED If you have friends or families = Miniled
Sure back when OLED TVs maxed out their peak brightness around 700 nits but that rule doesn’t apply to newer OLED TVs S95D is for sure a better bright room choice compared to the QN900D.
In this example you only picked night/dark scenes so the perfect conditions for an OLED display to outshine (pun intended) a MiniLED display since there are only a few of pixels to light up at powerful levels. Hence why those 10%, 30%, 50% and 100% max brightness level tests exists. The whole paradigm shifts as soon as you throw bright daylight scenes as long as the actual content really makes use of those high brightness levels since MiniLED displays are able and meant to withstand brighter tones while also taking a lot more space on our screens than what OLED can do, even the modern ones. The HDR10 norm was actually created on a thick experimental MinLED prototype more than a decade ago and was not intended to have 100% of the display blasting 10.000 nits but only a couple zones covered by those Mini LEDs. So it really depends on the kind of content and the ambient light because there are really strengths and weaknesses in both technologies that could be neglected depending on those aforementioned factors.
There is no comparison between an oled and a mini led, let alone a qd oled panel which is even more superior than a simple oled panel, so in this territory a mini led has no place to even being mentioned. It's just a waste of your effort, because in the end of day most of you, are working your ass off and in my opinion a mini led isn't worth your while since you can get the best possible picture there is, in the same price of a mini led crap if not for less even. Stop being so afraid of the oleds, they're just tvs. Just get an extended warranty and you'll be just fine, i personaly have the s90c 55 inches for more than a year and it's the best choice I've ever made when it comes down to purchasing a product. Go for it and stop being so dramatic about it, technology has evolved way too much since oleds first came in to life and you don't need to worry anymore about dead pixels so much, of course there's always a possibility to get a defective product, but that's rare and even then you can always take it back and get a brand new one the same day.
Compare tcl c855 with samsung qn900d and you will see the difference in clarity and quality, the tcl c855 is better than qn 900d and close to any oled tv
Is this HDR? I think HDR favors OLEDs. I think LEDs TVs would benefit from SDR where they do have a massive brightness advantage. You won't get the same highlights but the overall picture should be more dynamic. You might want to compare HDR for the S95D to SDR for the QN900D. I think many people would be pretty happy with the SDR version on their LEDs vs the HDR version on an OLED even in a neon level that would also favor OLEDs and HDR. But you're right the OLED looks clearer in HDR especially in those high contrast areas. In a way, there's halo on everything and I think SDR would remove that as HDR is choking the LED TV.🙂
@@dante19890 have you seen the difference between SDR and HDR or just assuming one is better? It's not like the manufacturers offer a setting to quickly switch between SDR and HDR. Ever wonder why? I'm one of the few people with a phone-like OLED laptop that could do A/B switching of HDR (Dolby Vision) and SDR at the same brightness levels 900-1,000 nits and I can quickly compare HDR and SDR at LED level brightness. It'll definitely shock anyone watching it without a doubt.
All in all everyone is entitled to opinion - if you like mini led go for it but don’t try to bend opinions of others because they disagree. Oled is oled and micro contrast shows. Doesn’t mean mini led is awful, just not as good. There are good use cases for both. With what Hisense does mini led is getting better and better each year
Its not awful you are right, and Hisense & TCL are killing it in their price bracket. I am definitely not trying to bend anyones opinion Mini LED has a place I was just sharing my opinion that at this premium price it feels like were hitting a point where the Mini LED TVs don't need to be the same price as premium OLED TVs of the the same size so this was more so to show people the difference between an expensive Mini LED TV and an expensive OLED TV.
@@TechWithKG I was more thinking about people going after you, trying to force their opinion that mini Led is better because in their specific usage it might be. I see few people like that every year saying this is it, this is perfect mini led just to see them upgrading next year to new model and claiming the same. Always comes to mind if it was perfect last year why are you changing your TV again? Was it not perfect in the end if new model is so much better again? Yeah, makes me laugh a bit. That’s a small percentage of people but they are the loudest for sure. With OLEDs we don’t have problems like that. If you get an Oled next year you won’t have a buyer remorse or Fomo and won’t have a need to get newer one each year. You’ll be happy for years to come.
I really want to get a hisense u8n 85" for the price and people talking that the picture is great. But im an oled guy, im in my fourth, and i get so afraid. I know u8n is going to have a worse pictire than my s90d, but im afraid the difference is so big that ill completely regret.
People here really struggle with misinformation, jeez I dunno where to start! It's like Sony algorithm with dimming zones is the best in the business & SDR is on another level I could've purchased any TV & no way would I buy Oled
haha lol is it possible to compare TVs of different diagonals, they have different ppi, which makes the smaller diagonal clearer and more saturated, even without different technology .. and it also seems to me that you over-lighted the Samsung or just set it up in a hurry.. I think this review is not objective!
1) When you make such comparisons, you should always show the settings you are using on both tv sets you compare, since there is nothing on a mini led tv tech-wise that can justify a 'hazy' look, especially when talking about a premium mini led tv. 2) You are using a 8k mini led tv, which essentially takes a machine that is designed for a maximum of a 4k output, and then outputs on an 8k screen, and then you compare it with a 4k screen that uses a machine that outputs in 4k. In one instance you have a 1:1 pixel ratio, in the other you don't. Make of that what you will. 3) Enough with constantly mentioning the 'dse' of mini led tvs, which tbh the better more premium mini ledtv you have, and the bigger inches you get, is less. If you are going to systematically mention it, start also mentioning the real issue modern oled tvs have with vertical banding, with vertical bands constantly being there, and when you see content in near black/greyscale is very apparent. Try playing any horror game, and see how on the greyish fog scenes you almost always notice the vertical bands. KG you are good, but at times you just appear like an oled groupie.
That depends quite a bit. I used my OLED exclusively for gaming, and I ended up giving it to my parents and buying myself a mini LED IPS. The VRR flickering is simply unbearable, a nightmare... the whole point of buying an OLED is for it to look good in dark scenes, but in games, this is completely ruined by the flickering. It's absolutely atrocious. The OLED is the 'perfect' monitor for gaming only if you play games that don’t have dark scenes; otherwise, it’s an epilepsy party, my Resident Evil gameplay experience was completely ruined by the OLED screen
A few years of ownership of a oled TV, there's a very good chance that you're going to experience temporary image retention or longer term permanent screen burn in. Despite Oleds looking spectacular, the headaches that come with that technology aren't worth it. You have moderate the type of content you watch on the TV, you have to run to occasional pixel refreshes, you have to make sure you don't have something with a static image for awhile on the screen etc. There's too much headaches for average consumers shouldn't have to put up with.
After getting an OLED and seeing family have LCD TV's makes me realize how vastly superior OLED is.people always talk about picture quality,but let me tell you that motion clarity is a huge deal.mini led displays motion have quite a bit of motion blur by comparison,to the point that it makes the whole image look like someone poured vasoline over the screen.with LCD you get bad motion blur,ghosting,or both.from my experience,Hisense is notorious for having the worst motion
@@dante19890 On Mini LED IPS flickering is literally non-existent. Since I switched from OLED to Mini LED IPS a few months ago I haven’t seen a single flicker like I did on OLED. That’s why Rtings gives OLED ratings of 3-4, VAs 6-7, and IPS 9.6+. OLED is just on another level on how badly it handles VRR flickering
Thats definitely for the pro gamers, im pretty washed when it comes to competitive gaming lol but even then I don't think I could sacrifice 4k for 1440p though I tried the G85SD from Samsung and I definitely liked it just missed 4k resolution crispiness. That said I hope I get to try one eventually ill fire up some counter-strike for old time sake.
Pffffff good say i have a lg 42c2 looking for a good tcl miniled for the nits bud now i see this im better off whit lg g4 for gaming only down fall whit oled its abl and the price tnx for all the info
I think default is a lil over brightened st 2084 -1 or -2 I think I had it when I filmed I don't really remember this was filmed like 3 months ago lol I was using Classy Tech Calibration's recommendations I believe I know for sure I had to do it on the S90D but I don't recall if it was also on the S95D I think it was.
@@TechWithKG Im between getting the s95d or the g4 at 55 inches at black friday and im leaning for the g4 because its gonna be more accurate ootb, i have an s95b atm and im kind of over having to adjust settings just to get a decent picture, it also appears like the g4 will be 100 dollars less than the s95d on black friday so seems like the better deal.
For the S95D its just game mode that needs more adjustments, filmmaker mode and movie mode default to BT 2020 and look great out of the box. That said I like the artificial depth enhancing effect that the G4 implemented. Cant go wrong with either TV.
It's a shame that OLED is an absolute nightmare for playing games with VRR enabled in medium/dark scenes. Man, my Resident Evil experience was completely ruined because of the OLED screen. The VRR flickering is simply atrocious. Yes, the blacks in the dark scenes were beautiful-when they weren't flickering like an epilepsy trigger... It's extremely annoying, especially if you're meticulous. I guess we'll have to wait for someone to work some kind of magic and fix this issue somehow. All those recommendations that say 'OLED is the perfect screen for gaming' should be required to come with a warning about VRR flickering
I just stopped buying this ridiculously overpriced Samsung tvs after 20 years and bought a Hisense miniled much-much-much cheaper, one of my best choice ever.
I think you’re absolutely right, OLED TVs, regardless if it’s S90d, G4, S95D, A95l, even C4, are all better than Bravia 9, however, some of us that don’t care about gaming, can’t deal with potential burn in, not being able to keep the same image on the tv for long period of time, watch mostly SDR content, prefer great up scaling, and don’t want to replace the tv every 3-5 years, we still appreciate what led tvs bring to the table. I don’t get offended when you say g4 is a better tv than Bravia 9, have had both, but my daily driver is not a g4, that simple. Bravia 9 is phenomenal for watching movies, news and sports, and that’s what I watch most on it. Do I wish it had OLED contrast, sure who wouldn’t, but on its own, it’s a stellar tv.
I can see why some people would throw shade, looks like you're using the out-of-the-box settings on the Mini-LED. OLEDs don't need to be calibrated to get punchy contrast and blacks, it's an OLED. Higher end Mini-LEDs you def need to take the time and calibrate and fine tune the picture settings to get that same deep contrast and black levels. I own an LG OLED and a Sony Mini-LED, took me two hours to fine tune the Mini-:LED but I got them looking pretty damn close. 🙂
Yea, QD-OLED is mostly better, but I’m willing to sacrifice a bit of PQ for immersion through screen size of an 85” mini-LED. 83” QD-OLED don’t exist yet, and OLED are just ridiculously overpriced yet for what they are.
Actually, the game in Ori and Sea of Thieves is really dark on the QD OLED. I would say anyone over the age of 50 might prefer a slightly elevated image in terms of blacks as our eyes strain in the darkness. Granted gamers are usually younger but the difference in darks takes on a different meaning as you get older in terms of effort to see. That strain will also affect young folks though - their eyes just cope better with it, until they no longer do.
@@SLICK8116 did you check with your mom? She seemed to care. I'm sorry I wasn't there for most of your life 🙂 I can't make it up but at least I can give you advice on what TV to buy and what settings to use.
The QN900D is actually a budget TV with a premium price!. A pure scam from Samsuck. This TV has allot of blooming and basically just a really bad panel. You should compare with a real mini-led from hisense or TCL.. those have allot more dimming zones and peak brightness and great gaming features like the S95D
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It's so funny how people fight over TVs. Imagine if people argued over refrigerators and dish washers, like that lol. No way my Samsung fridge gets cold faster than that crappy LG, my Maytag gets dishes way cleaner than your Bosch, yours is trash. I guess people need to be assured they purchased the right thing. If YOU like your TV, than who cares? All these TVs, are awesome today and if you didn't have them next to each other, you wouldn't know or care about any differences. You aren't going to enjoy a movie more watching on the QD Oled, over the Mini led. Just get the biggest size you can and enjoy.
Amen
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1st world Problems my friend.. 1st world problems
A rational thought... Which will lost in the ocean of the internet, like a tear in the rain.
KG you do not have to explain yourself. The difference between a QD-OLED while not vast, it is striking. I could eyeball it just from the very beginning of this video in my VA panel. Nice video ! Your old videos helped me decide for a qdoled over a miniled and I thank you for that.
The s95d simply destroys the led in contrast, clarity, and brightness. Its not even close.
You really believe a QD Oled is brighter than a Mini Led TVs in what world, 😊
Yeah but switch the Qn900d to SDR. The S95D has to remain in HDR since it’s going to look like your phone turned to 1/3 brightness.
Now, how do they look? I don’t know but without comparing each in their native habitats, there’s no way to know.
@@SLICK8116 how did you know? I own two
@@RodMurray777 In dark areas, it does.
@@RodMurray777 Full screen, the mini leds get much brighter. It's the HDR highlights that are brighter on the qdoled, because the mini leds have to tone it back a little, to stop blooming. Really, unless you are in a bright room, it's the highlights that are most important and impactful.
Wow, thanks KG! With this short and sweet video you've managed to convince me to try the S95E next year. The main reasons I bought the QN900D was for the premium quality, size, durability and brightness.. But I think you're right, for my primary activity with these devices being gaming, I should go with the QD-OLED. I heard that Samsung's next year's model might be 83" - or 85"? If that's true I'll definitely make the switch. Gaming is all about lighting, motion and contrast. I mean in in these videos there even appears to be more detail, picture and colour spectrum visible in the QD-OLED. Ah well, live and learn.
Thank you KG 🙏
I appreciate the comment and the support. QN900D is still an awesome TV even when gaming LCD just always falls short of OLED but its still a very enjoyable experience and you got that size advantage, I don’t see S95E being above 77” for QD OLED TVs. I much prefer gaming on OLED when possible but I still love gaming on my 120” projector setup because of size.
@TechWithKG Ah darn! Fomo said the S95E might be 83 or 85 next year. Either way I still think I'll get one. Excited for CES 2025 💪
Definitely excited to cover CES 2025 hopefully we get some good surprises
Got an s90c and did a service menu mod to bring the peak brightness in hdr to around 2000 nits max in a small window, but the most amazing thing it how much it brought up full window brightness, the tv is like an ips LCD full screen in terms of brightness and has much better color vibrancy. Even in SDR the fullscreen brightness is insanely high and watching anime without the screen dimming at all is an experience to behold with these vibrant colors and perfect contrast. Bought it for only 940, insanely good deal and the best tv I could imagine honestly, only thing I could hope for a future tv is the re-introducing of good 3d with this amazing brightness, possibly glasses free like on some tablets, other than that it's just perfection.
Be careful of the burn in though. The warranty won't cover it.
KG, doesn't listen to those buffoons. I've only watched a few of your videos mainly to do with the B9 (which I own), and you were clearly just giving your honest, subjective opinion of it, which is all anyone can ask for.
keep up the good work KG, this is a well thought out video comparison and it is well presented. That S95D is no joke.
Thanks yeah Samsung did an amazing job with the S95D this year, its top 2 this year of all TVs out for most and last year I didn't feel the want for an S95C over a S90C this year I definitely see the difference between S95D and S90D its clearly better and thats what I was hoping for from Samsung, its just unfortunate they went with a controversial screen coating that not everyone will like.
@@TechWithKG I have experienced the coating, it is not as bad as people make it out to be.
@@TechWithKG I bought the S95D 77inch from Crapton and Moore and it will be professional calibrated and supervised by Vincent Teoh himself. It was cheaper than the G4 77inch and A95l 77inch, plus I play around it in store and really liked it. Super happy, waiting for it to be delivered.
@@TheGodfather1022 How is it? I keep going back and forth between choosing LG G4 & S95D 55" mainly for bedroom gaming & Netflix etc. I'm also planning to get the Crampton & Moore calibration service as well 👍🏻
@@Mob-Psycho100 Get the S95D, much cheaper and it is really good. G4 is also good tho I have the 65inch G4. 77inch S95D for the price I got it for fully professionally calibrated was too good to pass.
I really think the oleds have a much better picture /contrast but it would really annoy me everyday to think about a possible burn-in. Especially while gaming (huds).
Ur more likely to get a heart attack than burn in on a modern oled
@@dante19890 How recent is modern? I have a 2 year old QD-OLED. It had burn in within the first year I got it. Also saw a post of someone showing their S90D with burn in within two months of owning it. Mine was from gaming. I can see the mini map burnt into the top right corner and the action bars along the bottom of the screen.
@@dante19890that is not true. Oled fan boys will say it doesn't happen anymore it's a thing of the past bla bla bla IF you don't do this and you don't do that and so on lool oleds have more rules than a gremlin😂😂
@@PedroBorges-tt6jo
I have an almost 10 yr old LG 3D oled (no one makes 3Dtvs anymore)...so far no problems with burn in. You'd have to game 6+hr sessions daily of the same thing for burn in. With that said I just ordered the 900D. LG has HDMI issues & years later on newest oled G4 looks like people are still having issues.
I'm hoping I don't regret getting the 900D I just ordered the 990D sound system with it.
Hoping to buy a qd-oled during black friday sales to go with PS5 Pro
Monitor or TV?
@B_Machine
TV. Probably the S90D, either 65 inch or 77 inch
Not only does the oled have a cleaner picture, it also comes with the added benefit of less overall lag and latency compared to led. The choice is a no brainer if your primary use is going to be gaming. Especially online competitive gaming.
As someone who is interested in the S90D and the QN90D I’m Just wondering ,what settings did you have for the QN900d Local dimming? Was it high or low? I’d much appreciate it. Great video btw.
Thanks! Can't remember completely but I believe medium for maximum HDR impact for the highlights was where I landed with the QN900D. I saw the QN90D a few times but never had it in I have to say S90D was much better and I saw this when I had QN90C vs S90C (that is up on the channel) , S90C beat it especially in game mode.
Yeah, honestly I think I will have to go with the S90D, I’m only just worried about it’s longevity but I think it’ll be worth it, plus I get a little discount on Samsung tech as well so hopefully a Black Friday deal will stack on top of that lol.
I thought the same one on right was the oled because it was like warmer or more saturated ; once you reveal the one on the left is the oled suddenly it becomes more accurate to my eyes .
the first second, i noticed how pale the bigger screen is and yep, its the Mini Led.
Should've been a triple comparison with a WOLED there as well.
Would of been cool to do triple comparison but I kind of just wanted to do a Samsung vs Samsung for their most premium OLED and most premium LCD, also didn't overlap with the G4 being with me and thats the only one I would of thrown in.
This is a great video. I like the detailed breakdown between the two technologies.
Are you playing this on the ps5, wondering if the s90d has the same processing as s95d?
Same processor, different panel generation, different peak brightness.
The processor in the S95D is an upgrade over the S90D.
I highly advise you all to look into it as this is an important aspect to the S95D.
We are watching video with phone, could you also upload without hdr? Phone doesn't show hdr videos bright @@TechWithKG
Its the same processor
If you’re phone doesn’t do HDR RUclips will apply an SDR conversion LUT
Is the backlight better outside of game mode? Only reason I'm considering Mini-Led is price at 75" which the Qm851 should hit $1300ish on BF.
Also, do newer Oleds no longer dim overtime if playing with static HUD content?
This video isn’t to say that mini led is bad. QD OLED just looks way better for gaming. The QM851g is a great tv and it’s good for gaming
@itwasntoptional5114 only thing I read and heard on video was that the backlight is static in game mode on the qm851, raising the blacks. Is that true?
@@Jodez23 I do not believe that’s true, no. The backlight is nerfed on the QM850g but the 2024 version shouldn’t have that problem
I just ordered the Hisense 55-inch U8N. I have a much older 7 year old sony, so any upgrade is going to be vastly superior to the old tech I currently have. That being said, I primarily bought a new TV for games on my PS5, im really wondering if I should shell out a bit extra for the LG C3 series model. My tv arrives today , and this video showcases the different image quality , and even recording it on a camera shows a vast difference, I can only imagine how much more crisp the OLED looks in person. What do you think? Should I just return the Mini Led and order the LG C3? It's about $400 bucks more, I intend on keeping this TV for years to come, and I dont mind spending a bit extra for a vastly superior gaming experience.
Lol you answered your own question I've got the 85u8n it's amazing coming from a 8yr old Vizio.. it was 1,699 for the 85u8n But I just watch sports casual gamer and it's in my living room not a dark a gaming den... Return yes but 85u8n or 55inch OLED
Funny that you used the glasses reference. I was thinking that to myself as I looked at the lighting before you said it. It’s like driving at night with glasses on
So, if you are just going to use tv for movies, tv shows, news from streaming apps. So the 77 S90D would be better than the 85in QN90D in light controlled evnement from 10.5-11 feet away. I use the tv about 4-5 hours a day. How much light bleed/blooming does the QN90D have compared to the S90D Oled tv. Is it like 90% of oled black.
qd oleds dim when there is blue on the screen, qleds dont have much agressive dimming as qd oled. also s95d also gives blooming because of the matte screen.
Hey Tech with KG! Not sure if im remebering this right but im hearing some S90D's are 1000 nits and not 1200 nits that was reviewed by rtings? Are the 1000 nits woled and outside lf the US? I plan to buy a 65 in the states, i know its a guaranteed qd-oled but is there a chance it could be 1000 nits and not 1200 nits or is that just a woled thing?
Nice comparison. Could you use day scenes also?
Sony Bravia B9 for the win 🏆
Are you able to see a difference in the upscaling if you sit close?
game mode or 1st person shooter mode on q90d does increase gamma and therefore looks foggy. i would definitely do another test with game mode off, you will be surprised how good it looks.
Have you or classy tech done picture settings, and game settings for the S90D or S95D? I want to purchase the S 90 D but I only see settings for the S90C and the S95C.
Hey kg love your work man, can i ask what you think of yhe motion on the qd oleds? I just got a s95c and coming from a lg g4 the motion seems very jittery
Yeah oled with always win. However the mini led tvs can get very close to oleds if you use 6500k white bias lighting. It significantly improves contrast, reduces blooming, clouding, edge blooming, dse, improves colors etc, basically reduces all lcd issues. So imo everyone who owns an lcd should use it. I used to own a samsung frame qled so i know. It would be great if you can redo this comparison with 6500k white bias lighting on the mini led tv just so that we can get an idea how close it can get to an oled.
Black crush seems to be an issue in the LG C3 and not on a QN90D.
I understand your description of the two different technologies kg and appreciate it. I will deffo go oled next time. I just couldnt afford it this time round.
Having said that my qn95c is just blowing my mind right now. And the lights do look brighter on the mini led in your video. I enjoy the gaming brigtness on mini led bud
I would never have anything other than a qd oled if given a choice, they are beautiful to look at.
Oled is better but stupidly expensive in comparison to led for a big one and yes, burn in ans heat is a thing. I just see it as nit pickey now that many led tvs supprt vrr and local dimming where my 85" X90L is awesome with my ps5 with contrast, gamma and black level tweaks. I could afford a big oled but I'm happy enough with a huge tv that performs great and didn't cost an unreasonable amount these oleds so. They are price gouging until the hype goes down and they become the new normal OR led will get so good with brightness but perfect contrast and less energy consumption that they will remain around while oled is extinct like plasma.
Large OLEDs are expensive no doubt, I think right now thats the best case I have for the LCD TVs they have the larger size market on lock down. This we are seeing 77" OLED TVs for $1599 and 83" for $2499 so its getting lower slowly but surely, but yes you make a great point about the size advantage with pricing in mind.
@@TechWithKG Yeah, I think the silver lining is the competition is strong. Sony, which I've always liked their processing most will be forced to drop their prices. TCL is making a push as amazing quality for size and value and OLED are getting bigger brighter, cheaper with less issues like burn in 🤙
Exactly. I currently own an Oled but want to go larger to 75". Qm851 should hit about $1300 on BF which I'm considering. Although I can afford it, I don't feel like spending double for similar size Oled.
Blooming... blooming everywhere. I can't with backlit TVs, not yet anyway. Maybe one day when the number of dimming zones goes up to at least 50k or something like that, then MAYBE it'll start competing, but it seems too far fetched right now
Great comparison
Nice vid. Can you do a similar comparison regarding HDR Movies. Also, the reason for Mini LED is 98" sizes
excellent comparison... now do daytime comparison in games,
One of the biggest issues with OLED sets is the life span it's not going to last as long as Qled or sets of that type something to consider when paying out a few k for a tv.
Sony vs. Panasonic if you can please. Would be super interesting.
KG, you basically destroyed the QN900D here. It's ridiculous how Samsung's flagship "8K" tv that's 2x the cost still performs worse because it's not an OLED. Goes to show that just because you slap 8K on the label and put an $8000 price tag on it, doesn't mean you're getting the best quality. ~Scott
You can substitute any premium LCD like Sony Bravia 9 for the QN900D and it be the same thing, it’s nothing against the QN900D like I said on its own it performs great its just a technology mismatch against a QD OLED though especially with games in mind.
I agree 100%...
It's so obvious that Mini-led or any LCD based technology can't compete with Oled's by watching any content.
Yet people jump in these forums and praise the Bravia 9 simply because it's a Sony...they could literally release anything and charge what they want now...I admit their marketing and hype is second to none but anyone with an eagle eye knows better
It all depends on how deep is your pocket. Back in the days a regular LED 100 inch TV would run you over $100K. Now you can get a 100" mini LED on sale for $1.8K. A 100" OLED TV would run you....maybe about $25K+. Nothing is free in life.
All ima say is im not smart with tv. But s90d vs lgc1 my s90d is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BETTER. Omg its like very inky, neon color with pop. Its crisp and smooth
Yea, never forget when it comes to image quality that clean glasses makes a huge difference. Even an OLED is going to bloom with some dirty glasses.
Facts lol, thats how I know its time to clean my glasses asap.
It had less layers also
QN900D looks pretty good. This coming from someone whose 3 most recent TVs have been OLED.
Yo KG😊
wassup!
@@TechWithKG chillin waiting to see what the deal is going to be for Black Friday and the holiday season. I want a Panasonic OLED but I want the price to drop a little. I want the Z85A 55 inch for my bedroom viewing.
@@michaelwyckoff7593 Oh yeah I hope Panasonic is going to be competitive with their pricing I know they briefly had the Z95A at 2,500 when everyone had their premium OLED at 3k so its possible we can see a price drop on these Panasonic OLED TVs.
kg 77s95d or 77 g4 at same price?
i have an lg 48 inch monitor and it looks great but sometimes it does crush blacks and color banding is annoying with movies and youtube content, i have a sony x90l 65 inch and its not as bright as my lg monitor i do enjoy playing games on it better than on my lg monitor because of fear for burn in, there are more color options on tv than on monitors
isnt Oleds real problem , is that it does get as bright ?
For the same price we'd get a much bigger Mini LED and the quality delta against OLED is not that dramatic anymore.
I'd still apply the basic rule, it depends on room ambient light :
If you live in a cave = OLED
If you have friends or families = Miniled
Sure back when OLED TVs maxed out their peak brightness around 700 nits but that rule doesn’t apply to newer OLED TVs S95D is for sure a better bright room choice compared to the QN900D.
In this example you only picked night/dark scenes so the perfect conditions for an OLED display to outshine (pun intended) a MiniLED display since there are only a few of pixels to light up at powerful levels. Hence why those 10%, 30%, 50% and 100% max brightness level tests exists.
The whole paradigm shifts as soon as you throw bright daylight scenes as long as the actual content really makes use of those high brightness levels since MiniLED displays are able and meant to withstand brighter tones while also taking a lot more space on our screens than what OLED can do, even the modern ones.
The HDR10 norm was actually created on a thick experimental MinLED prototype more than a decade ago and was not intended to have 100% of the display blasting 10.000 nits but only a couple zones covered by those Mini LEDs.
So it really depends on the kind of content and the ambient light because there are really strengths and weaknesses in both technologies that could be neglected depending on those aforementioned factors.
65" or 77" for s95d 9-10 feet away? mostly gaming
There is no comparison between an oled and a mini led, let alone a qd oled panel which is even more superior than a simple oled panel, so in this territory a mini led has no place to even being mentioned. It's just a waste of your effort, because in the end of day most of you, are working your ass off and in my opinion a mini led isn't worth your while since you can get the best possible picture there is, in the same price of a mini led crap if not for less even. Stop being so afraid of the oleds, they're just tvs. Just get an extended warranty and you'll be just fine, i personaly have the s90c 55 inches for more than a year and it's the best choice I've ever made when it comes down to purchasing a product. Go for it and stop being so dramatic about it, technology has evolved way too much since oleds first came in to life and you don't need to worry anymore about dead pixels so much, of course there's always a possibility to get a defective product, but that's rare and even then you can always take it back and get a brand new one the same day.
3 seconds in and I knew what the oled was.
VERY GOOD EXCELLENT COMPARISON AND EXTREMELY HONEST EVALUATIONS ... I WOULD SAY QD OLED WINS HANDS DOWN .. QD OLED ALL THE TIME 🤩👍
Could you test No Man sky with the Sansung 8k screen?
Compare tcl c855 with samsung qn900d and you will see the difference in clarity and quality, the tcl c855 is better than qn 900d and close to any oled tv
Best qd oled vs worst mini led...sure...
it’s one of the best mini LED TVs and it traded blows with BRAVIA 9 in game mode.
@@TechWithKG Count the dimming zones and the mini led tech behind them. Not even close!
Is this HDR? I think HDR favors OLEDs. I think LEDs TVs would benefit from SDR where they do have a massive brightness advantage. You won't get the same highlights but the overall picture should be more dynamic. You might want to compare HDR for the S95D to SDR for the QN900D. I think many people would be pretty happy with the SDR version on their LEDs vs the HDR version on an OLED even in a neon level that would also favor OLEDs and HDR.
But you're right the OLED looks clearer in HDR especially in those high contrast areas. In a way, there's halo on everything and I think SDR would remove that as HDR is choking the LED TV.🙂
Most games don't support Hdr.
Different story sdr.
If u only care about sdr just get the cheapest biggest lcd u can
@raymondhines5964 most new games support hdr
@@dante19890 have you seen the difference between SDR and HDR or just assuming one is better? It's not like the manufacturers offer a setting to quickly switch between SDR and HDR. Ever wonder why?
I'm one of the few people with a phone-like OLED laptop that could do A/B switching of HDR (Dolby Vision) and SDR at the same brightness levels 900-1,000 nits and I can quickly compare HDR and SDR at LED level brightness. It'll definitely shock anyone watching it without a doubt.
@@SLICK8116 you know what sucks, right? 🙂
All in all everyone is entitled to opinion - if you like mini led go for it but don’t try to bend opinions of others because they disagree. Oled is oled and micro contrast shows. Doesn’t mean mini led is awful, just not as good. There are good use cases for both. With what Hisense does mini led is getting better and better each year
Its not awful you are right, and Hisense & TCL are killing it in their price bracket. I am definitely not trying to bend anyones opinion Mini LED has a place I was just sharing my opinion that at this premium price it feels like were hitting a point where the Mini LED TVs don't need to be the same price as premium OLED TVs of the the same size so this was more so to show people the difference between an expensive Mini LED TV and an expensive OLED TV.
Micro contrast works both ways, not only for dark scenes.
@@TechWithKG I was more thinking about people going after you, trying to force their opinion that mini Led is better because in their specific usage it might be.
I see few people like that every year saying this is it, this is perfect mini led just to see them upgrading next year to new model and claiming the same. Always comes to mind if it was perfect last year why are you changing your TV again? Was it not perfect in the end if new model is so much better again? Yeah, makes me laugh a bit. That’s a small percentage of people but they are the loudest for sure.
With OLEDs we don’t have problems like that. If you get an Oled next year you won’t have a buyer remorse or Fomo and won’t have a need to get newer one each year. You’ll be happy for years to come.
QD-OLED is gorgeous and they supply panels for Sony, that says enough
S95D is also matte screen so reduces glare
Matte sucks.
I really want to get a hisense u8n 85" for the price and people talking that the picture is great. But im an oled guy, im in my fourth, and i get so afraid. I know u8n is going to have a worse pictire than my s90d, but im afraid the difference is so big that ill completely regret.
Yes you give something up in terms of contrast but its a great TV and the size for $ is hard to argue against
@@TechWithKG i see. Ill have to think if i go for the u8n or keep my lg a1 65".
People here really struggle with misinformation, jeez I dunno where to start! It's like Sony algorithm with dimming zones is the best in the business & SDR is on another level I could've purchased any TV & no way would I buy Oled
Let me guess, the oled is the one that can display black.
Let me guess, the last time you saw a LED tv was 10 years ago. :)
Why is no one really talking about the issues with the One Connect Box??? 🤦🏿🤷🏿
If not a gamer and just watch sports would you just stick with a big 85inch mini led
You can not compare clarity on two different sized monitors like this.
Good point. Ppi is different.
haha lol is it possible to compare TVs of different diagonals, they have different ppi, which makes the smaller diagonal clearer and more saturated, even without different technology .. and it also seems to me that you over-lighted the Samsung or just set it up in a hurry.. I think this review is not objective!
1) When you make such comparisons, you should always show the settings you are using on both tv sets you compare, since there is nothing on a mini led tv tech-wise that can justify a 'hazy' look, especially when talking about a premium mini led tv.
2) You are using a 8k mini led tv, which essentially takes a machine that is designed for a maximum of a 4k output, and then outputs on an 8k screen, and then you compare it with a 4k screen that uses a machine that outputs in 4k. In one instance you have a 1:1 pixel ratio, in the other you don't. Make of that what you will.
3) Enough with constantly mentioning the 'dse' of mini led tvs, which tbh the better more premium mini ledtv you have, and the bigger inches you get, is less. If you are going to systematically mention it, start also mentioning the real issue modern oled tvs have with vertical banding, with vertical bands constantly being there, and when you see content in near black/greyscale is very apparent. Try playing any horror game, and see how on the greyish fog scenes you almost always notice the vertical bands. KG you are good, but at times you just appear like an oled groupie.
Lots of people still coping on LCD when we have qd oled in the same price class or even cheaper.
It really is ignorance to the highest degree.
That depends quite a bit. I used my OLED exclusively for gaming, and I ended up giving it to my parents and buying myself a mini LED IPS. The VRR flickering is simply unbearable, a nightmare... the whole point of buying an OLED is for it to look good in dark scenes, but in games, this is completely ruined by the flickering. It's absolutely atrocious. The OLED is the 'perfect' monitor for gaming only if you play games that don’t have dark scenes; otherwise, it’s an epilepsy party, my Resident Evil gameplay experience was completely ruined by the OLED screen
@@adhom9053 vrr flickering happens on lcds too. It's not an oled thing
A few years of ownership of a oled TV, there's a very good chance that you're going to experience temporary image retention or longer term permanent screen burn in. Despite Oleds looking spectacular, the headaches that come with that technology aren't worth it. You have moderate the type of content you watch on the TV, you have to run to occasional pixel refreshes, you have to make sure you don't have something with a static image for awhile on the screen etc. There's too much headaches for average consumers shouldn't have to put up with.
After getting an OLED and seeing family have LCD TV's makes me realize how vastly superior OLED is.people always talk about picture quality,but let me tell you that motion clarity is a huge deal.mini led displays motion have quite a bit of motion blur by comparison,to the point that it makes the whole image look like someone poured vasoline over the screen.with LCD you get bad motion blur,ghosting,or both.from my experience,Hisense is notorious for having the worst motion
@@dante19890 On Mini LED IPS flickering is literally non-existent. Since I switched from OLED to Mini LED IPS a few months ago I haven’t seen a single flicker like I did on OLED. That’s why Rtings gives OLED ratings of 3-4, VAs 6-7, and IPS 9.6+. OLED is just on another level on how badly it handles VRR flickering
damn why is the mini led so GREEN?
Sony and Asus are dropping 480hz 1440p oled gaming monitors soon
Thats definitely for the pro gamers, im pretty washed when it comes to competitive gaming lol but even then I don't think I could sacrifice 4k for 1440p though I tried the G85SD from Samsung and I definitely liked it just missed 4k resolution crispiness. That said I hope I get to try one eventually ill fire up some counter-strike for old time sake.
The QN900D looks hazy to me.
LCD is only for low-end stuff.
Pffffff good say i have a lg 42c2 looking for a good tcl miniled for the nits bud now i see this im better off whit lg g4 for gaming only down fall whit oled its abl and the price tnx for all the info
Did you have to adjust any settings on the s95d?, i hear default is overbrightened.
I think default is a lil over brightened st 2084 -1 or -2 I think I had it when I filmed I don't really remember this was filmed like 3 months ago lol I was using Classy Tech Calibration's recommendations I believe I know for sure I had to do it on the S90D but I don't recall if it was also on the S95D I think it was.
@@TechWithKG Im between getting the s95d or the g4 at 55 inches at black friday and im leaning for the g4 because its gonna be more accurate ootb, i have an s95b atm and im kind of over having to adjust settings just to get a decent picture, it also appears like the g4 will be 100 dollars less than the s95d on black friday so seems like the better deal.
For the S95D its just game mode that needs more adjustments, filmmaker mode and movie mode default to BT 2020 and look great out of the box. That said I like the artificial depth enhancing effect that the G4 implemented. Cant go wrong with either TV.
@@TechWithKG Have you noticed the blue push ootb in fmm that has been reported by rtings as well as other youtubers on the s95d?
It's a shame that OLED is an absolute nightmare for playing games with VRR enabled in medium/dark scenes. Man, my Resident Evil experience was completely ruined because of the OLED screen. The VRR flickering is simply atrocious. Yes, the blacks in the dark scenes were beautiful-when they weren't flickering like an epilepsy trigger... It's extremely annoying, especially if you're meticulous. I guess we'll have to wait for someone to work some kind of magic and fix this issue somehow.
All those recommendations that say 'OLED is the perfect screen for gaming' should be required to come with a warning about VRR flickering
Any Samsung QD OLED will kill the Bravia 9
I just stopped buying this ridiculously overpriced Samsung tvs after 20 years and bought a Hisense miniled much-much-much cheaper, one of my best choice ever.
I’ll take the cheapest of the two.
I think you’re absolutely right, OLED TVs, regardless if it’s S90d, G4, S95D, A95l, even C4, are all better than Bravia 9, however, some of us that don’t care about gaming, can’t deal with potential burn in, not being able to keep the same image on the tv for long period of time, watch mostly SDR content, prefer great up scaling, and don’t want to replace the tv every 3-5 years, we still appreciate what led tvs bring to the table. I don’t get offended when you say g4 is a better tv than Bravia 9, have had both, but my daily driver is not a g4, that simple. Bravia 9 is phenomenal for watching movies, news and sports, and that’s what I watch most on it. Do I wish it had OLED contrast, sure who wouldn’t, but on its own, it’s a stellar tv.
Completely agree! 👍🏼 I wish I could afford the Bravia 9 as well, but might just the 85” X90L and save $3K 😅
I can see why some people would throw shade, looks like you're using the out-of-the-box settings on the Mini-LED. OLEDs don't need to be calibrated to get punchy contrast and blacks, it's an OLED. Higher end Mini-LEDs you def need to take the time and calibrate and fine tune the picture settings to get that same deep contrast and black levels. I own an LG OLED and a Sony Mini-LED, took me two hours to fine tune the Mini-:LED but I got them looking pretty damn close. 🙂
Yea, QD-OLED is mostly better, but I’m willing to sacrifice a bit of PQ for immersion through screen size of an 85” mini-LED.
83” QD-OLED don’t exist yet, and OLED are just ridiculously overpriced yet for what they are.
A bigger screen is not better for immersion, when image quality is way worse. Especially in dark scenes LCD is just trash.
@@Dr.WhetFarts opinions.
Actually, the game in Ori and Sea of Thieves is really dark on the QD OLED. I would say anyone over the age of 50 might prefer a slightly elevated image in terms of blacks as our eyes strain in the darkness. Granted gamers are usually younger but the difference in darks takes on a different meaning as you get older in terms of effort to see. That strain will also affect young folks though - their eyes just cope better with it, until they no longer do.
@@SLICK8116 did you check with your mom? She seemed to care. I'm sorry I wasn't there for most of your life 🙂 I can't make it up but at least I can give you advice on what TV to buy and what settings to use.
@@SLICK8116 well, I just met you and you're no longer an orphan, so there's that.
yeah, we hate him/her too. i luv sony, what else could be better. MORE SONY PLEASE. after all, ITS A SONY. truth be told
The QN900D is actually a budget TV with a premium price!. A pure scam from Samsuck. This TV has allot of blooming and basically just a really bad panel. You should compare with a real mini-led from hisense or TCL.. those have allot more dimming zones and peak brightness and great gaming features like the S95D
Yeah. Definitely an OLED fanboy.
Nothing wrong with that. Own it, dont hide from it.
Bravia 9 king 👑 mini-led TV 🏅 🦁😎
Yeah I can tell a difference! 🙂
OLED is still the best picture in my opinion. Thank God I got the A80L OLED before Sony came out with the mini LED TVs.
Oled all the way 🤘🤘🤘