Is OLED Really Better Than Mini LED?

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  • @thedisplayguy
    @thedisplayguy  2 месяца назад

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  • @lctv4107
    @lctv4107 2 месяца назад +10

    Recently bought a Hisense 55 inch U8K mini LED. Absolutely blew me away. Found some really good picture settings from Reddit and it looks just as good as OLED. The contrast is unbelievable, the blacks are damn near OLED blacks and I paid only $699. Mini LED is the way to go!

    • @chelseas_lament4624
      @chelseas_lament4624 2 месяца назад

      I also bought the Hisense u8k back in December and it's such a good TV specially those speakers, did not expect them to sound that good. Mind sharing those setting ? haven't messed with my TV settings that much since I got it.

    • @lctv4107
      @lctv4107 Месяц назад

      @@chelseas_lament4624 (Picture Menu) go into (General menu) turn on (Standard) Picture Mode
      (Content Auto Type Detection) Turn That (On)
      In this menu leave everything else off
      (Brightness menu) (Local Dimming) set to (High) Brightness, contrast, black level is your preference I have black level -3 (Dark Detail) is set to (On)
      (Gamma) is set to (2.4)
      (Active Contrast) is set to (Medium)
      (HDMI Dynamic Range) is set to (Full)
      Leave everything off in this menu
      (Color menu) Color & hue is your prefence I have color at 55
      (Color Temperature) is set to (Warm2)
      (Color Space) is set to (BT.2020)
      (Clarity menu) Sharpness is your preference
      (Super Resolution) is set to (On)
      (Smooth Gradient) is set to (High) this nearly & completely eliminates color banding
      (Noise Reduction) is set to (Medium)
      (MPEG Noise Reducrion) is awt to (Medium)
      (Motion Enhancement) is set to (Custom) Judder is +5 to +7 & Blur is +3 to +5. if you ever experience (Soap Opera Effect) or any motion issues readjust to your preterence
      In this menu leave everything else off
      Calibrations settings menu you will see 5 options
      (Color Tuner) (White Balance) (Gamma Calibration)
      (Calman Services (RGB)
      First choose (Color Tuner) (Flesh Tone) (Hue -1)
      (Saturation between) +1 to +2 (Brightness) between +3 to + 4
      (White Balance) can be tricky so I'II try to guide you.
      You see (2) Point & (20) Point options
      First go into (2) Point correction & here are your adiustments
      R-Offst is -17 G-Offset is -15 B-Offest is -13
      R-Gain is +8 G-Gain is +7 B-Gain is. +7
      (20) Point turn the slider to (On) Level is set to 95%
      Red is +4 Green is +3 Blue is +3
      (Gamma Calibrations) Input Level is 90% Gain is
      20%
      Leave Calman Services & RGB completely untouched

    • @lctv4107
      @lctv4107 Месяц назад

      @@chelseas_lament4624 I hope this helps! Try to take this step by step, it’s tedious but you do it once and it looks amazing! Hope you enjoy.

  • @msironen
    @msironen 2 месяца назад +29

    OLEDs traditionally also have a big advantage in input lag vs zone-dimmed displays (especially in HDR) since they don't need to run a dimming algorithm that adjusts the zones on every refresh.

    • @MsFearco
      @MsFearco 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah. I'm wondering why they don't use dual oled layer, one white one rgb using the same control split so there is no input lag difference and brightness could potentially improve too

    • @sorinpopa1442
      @sorinpopa1442 2 месяца назад +1

      Ya they also have even more traditional big advantages , compared to minileds(Lcd) , like with ABL 250 nits on 100% window when most top minileds gets up to 1000 nits on 100% window. and ABL in most scenes oled will always look dimmer or much dimmer ,compared to top miniled in most scenes .
      Depends on the content now.
      Not to mention oled monitors have even more agreesive ABL compared to the normal oled TVs .bcs of the static things , icons u having on ur monitor 24/7.
      Also another huge advantage for the oled its the price , all oled monitors are dirt cheap on the market ^^.
      But ya they have some top + like instant response time and infinite contrast etc. even if top miniled tvs are getting very close in this area lately, but oled still its the king there for how long ?
      will see with the gen. of top miniled tvs , they already very close to the oled in that area also.
      My point is no tech its perfect , both have cons and pros !
      So at the end of the day stop being a fanboy , be open minded !

  • @aesthetiques
    @aesthetiques 2 месяца назад +46

    Mini LED if you want to use it for productivity.

    • @HeenDi
      @HeenDi 2 месяца назад +6

      This cannot be stressed enough. Hyped up, I bought a PG27AQDM, which is a really good monitor, and as my first OLED experience, delivered pretty hard in gaming and content consumption. But... knowing that there will be times where I will have to read and write a lot of text on this display, I have to say that questionable longevity of an OLED (pixel cleaning notifications are just super paranoia inducing) plus kinda terrible text on it was enough to have me buy a 4K Mini-LED instead, keeping in mind that I find blooming to not bother me at all and riding it with a 4080 super for gaming. Worthy to note is also that I am not a gigantic fan of HDR, as lower brightness levels are more pleasing to my eyes. And then there is the cost of OLED, which is certainly subject to change, but still... I just noticed that I don't really mind IPS so to speak. Let's see where we go from here!

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 26 дней назад

      What a dumb thing to say. It's personal preference and depends on the monitor.

  • @xArtie22x
    @xArtie22x 2 месяца назад +72

    Once you go oled it’s very difficult to go back to any type of LED.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +35

      This is such a bot comment because it lacks any real substance.
      I went OLED, then miniLED, been extremely satisfied with both.

    • @occasus7964
      @occasus7964 2 месяца назад +25

      until your monitor burns in due to productivity usage.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 2 месяца назад

      Basen on what i have seen from this year Sony led…. It is not hard at all!

    • @141menace
      @141menace 2 месяца назад +6

      until MicroLED hits the market

    • @MsFearco
      @MsFearco 2 месяца назад +5

      All depends on the use case.
      Movies:miniled
      Games :oled
      Bright room:woled
      Dark room:qdoled
      No money: ips/tn/va wo miniled

  • @Keivz
    @Keivz 2 месяца назад +4

    Well done. Agree with everything that was said apart from matte vs glossy. I switch between a matte monitor and glossy tv and I never think ‘I wish this was glossy’ when using my matte monitor).
    I’ll say oled vs mini led is a very scene by scene issue. Playing Jedi survivor and all the desert scenes in the day shine on mini led far above my oled displays, meanwhile all the dark scenes look quite a bit better on my mini led monitor. No perfect display sadly but both techs are improving.

  • @Oscar-id8rc
    @Oscar-id8rc 2 месяца назад +3

    Heres hoping to see your Review of the new LG 27GR95UM which is the Best mini led Nano IPS monitor I've seen after the firmware update,it also has an ATW polarizer and 1560 zones to help with blooming. I would love to see a comparison of HDR against the QD oleds and WOLEDs monitors that you have. Keep up the good work👍

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  2 месяца назад +2

      I’m hoping to get to it soon.

  • @elliotpolanco159
    @elliotpolanco159 2 месяца назад +6

    Keep adding the Rock Meme it's hilarious LMAO don't stop using that meme.

  • @fonty012
    @fonty012 2 месяца назад +6

    There are not many miniled options sadly.

  • @RiceCubeTech
    @RiceCubeTech 2 месяца назад +1

    I think once you get mini led to like 50-100k zones it’ll be in a really solid point.
    Still won’t be able to hit the same response times though. Just by the inherent nature of the technology.

  • @S3lvah
    @S3lvah 2 месяца назад +1

    To me, contrast includes: Max vs. min brightness at 1-25% white (mini-LED), ambient contrast (glossy WOLED & VA mini-LED) and microcontrast (OLED). They should all be considered on the same level.

  • @FlyTimeRC
    @FlyTimeRC 2 месяца назад +4

    Either way i love my oled and will stick with it for the foreseeable future

  • @legendp2011
    @legendp2011 2 месяца назад +3

    I prefer mini LED because I worry about burn in, and because I sit next to a huge open window. and like super bright monitors (1000 nitts)

    • @x8jason8x
      @x8jason8x 2 месяца назад +1

      Burn in was only an issue with older OLEDs.
      One does not prefer super bright monitors if one can... y'know... see.

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 2 месяца назад

      ​@@x8jason8x I'm next to a bright window. so brightness is very important. I have had OLED burn in with every OLED device ive owned. further more, modern stress test on modern OLED have shown that burn in is still an issue. OLED tries to mitigate these issues by pixel refresh (which literally makes the whole display dimmer over time).
      I love the look of OLED, but can't trust the technology to last over 5 years without issues (based on my use case).
      its a shame dual layer LCD never took off. as that has all the pros of OLED (perfect blacks) without the negativesa of OLED (check out the Sony BVM-HX310)

    • @legendp2011
      @legendp2011 2 месяца назад

      @@x8jason8x burn in is still an issue on modern OLED based on all scientific testing

  • @Rob-Davidson
    @Rob-Davidson 2 месяца назад +17

    Super high brightness adds a lot to the experience. Giving mini LED a definite win there. But the G4 solved brightness as far as I'm concerned. I'd like a tiny bit more brightness in Film Maker mode, but it's still good enough for now.

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 2 месяца назад +1

      Who the hell even uses Film maker mode, there is no reason for it to even exist it's not even what the film is supposed to look like.

    • @Rob-Davidson
      @Rob-Davidson 2 месяца назад

      @@drunkhusband6257 I use Film Maker mode. Clearly.

    • @BastyTHz
      @BastyTHz 2 месяца назад

      well i had been plague with foggy black screen and black smearing for more than 10 years, true black is still much better than foggy black

    • @NexGenTek
      @NexGenTek 2 месяца назад +1

      The Bravia 9 is the best of both worlds

    • @Andytlp
      @Andytlp 2 месяца назад +4

      For a tv thats 10 feet a way in a day light lit room maybe. For something 2-3 feet from your face i wouldnt want +1.5k nits.

  • @mileskt9232
    @mileskt9232 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't do VA panels and I'm not going back! I want the fast response and fast input lag. I don't care about bright areas and losing perfect contrast.

  • @TewaAya
    @TewaAya 2 месяца назад

    If there was musou black filter for led, that would be a game changer. Cheaper by having less led zones but blooming are truly filtered like the fresnel effect on crt.

  • @alphacompton
    @alphacompton 2 месяца назад

    Excellent points. I'm an audio/video hobbyist and know the technology pretty well but I wanted to see what others say every time this topic is brought up. For myself I have a nice LG OLED TV for all movie viewing and a decent amount of other media. For my PC monitor I have a Cooler Master mini led monitor that I really like. It has some very annoying quirks you have to toggle when using HDR but it performs great when set. I have static content on my PC for hours at a time that needs to stay there most of the time, so I can't really do OLED. Also I like the powerful brightness of true 1000+ nit HDR. Honestly I feel Mini led Local dimming is the way moving forward. Blooming can be annoying in some scenes in most gameplay it's fine. I probably don't play enough dark games and I'm not a horror fan either but definitely I'd prefer more dimming zones above any other upgrade.

  • @beaumac
    @beaumac 2 месяца назад +1

    I went mini-led because it was about 60% less and is close enough to oled that I can’t justify the price difference. Also I use it for working and gaming and oled is not acceptable for productivity.

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 2 месяца назад +1

    I really wish OLED took off in the early years with the PS Vita. OLED was just absurdly better than the LCDs at the time and for some reason it took way longer for OLED to be taken seriously. Like I still remember the people fighting over getting the 3DS that had the IPS panels instead of the TNs because they were so much better, but OLED was even better than that and we didn't have any HDR content to use the brightness of LCDs.
    OLED came out kinda late to the game and now it looks less competitive. I really wish it could have come faster.

    • @PD-ws4td
      @PD-ws4td 2 месяца назад

      I remember going from Gameboy to ds and the jump in panel technology was mindblowing to me as a kid lmao.

    • @Andytlp
      @Andytlp 2 месяца назад +2

      it's the burn in that scare people away. Myself included. The game ui's are static.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 2 месяца назад

      Old oleds were even more prone to burn in and also expensive. There is good reason why oled is ”Late”

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 2 месяца назад +1

      @haukionkannel from what I can find there really isn't much record of PS Vitas burning in. And OLED displays only 2-3 years ago burned in way more often than now, but the longer the tech is out, the more it gets optimized.

  • @UNr34
    @UNr34 2 месяца назад +9

    I upgraded from a 1080p IPS to a 4k QD-Oled and honestly the biggest difference I noticed wasn't the resolution, the colors, the response time, or the blacks, but the GLOSSY coating holy shit you were so right dude. I now get why you're being so evangelical about this.

    • @Tuskabanana
      @Tuskabanana 2 месяца назад +9

      dude upgrading from a 1080p monitor into 4k oled doesnt count, your old monitor was so garbage, even 1440p ips or va panel without local dimming would blow you away :O

    • @aubrynobicop6924
      @aubrynobicop6924 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Tuskabanana no i can confirm the glossy finish is the biggest part i went from a 768p semi gloss tv to a matte 1440p to real glossy 1440p finish and its miles better. it just looks so much cleaner even at the same res colors pop more things look clearer its just awesome going from matte to glossy.

    • @Tuskabanana
      @Tuskabanana 2 месяца назад

      @@aubrynobicop6924 yeah i believe you, i will buy a glossy oled to, i have the lg27ul600 now with 26530 hours :=) and years before i bought the lg27up650 to compare it. Both Monitors got Matt coatings, but the new model got the worst cheap matt coating ever, text looked so unsharp, instantly send it back. I can imagine how clear a glossy coating will look when i even see the difference on a cheap matt against a more expensive coating.

    • @UNr34
      @UNr34 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Tuskabanana No my previous IPS was great, I had calibrated it well, there was very little inherent ghosting, resolution didn't usually bother me because of things like DSR and also its 24 inch size. BUT that constant eye gouging vaseline effect was always there, and now that I have a proper glossy monitor I can appreciate it being gone with zero drawbacks. Of course there's other benefits to oled! Metro Exodus Enhanced which is a dark game looks stunning for example. As I use it more I'm sure I'll keep being blown away. I wasn't saying 4k oled doesn't have its advantages, but for me the biggest and first shock was how much better the glossy coating looks.

    • @drjay927
      @drjay927 2 месяца назад +3

      You will notice a difference from 1080p to any 4k. You won't notice much difference between a 4k ips and oled. An oled will have blacker background, and more saturated colors. That's it. Most people obsessed with oled are people who switch from 1080p to 4k.

  • @carlosalbertoch
    @carlosalbertoch 14 дней назад

    Mini LED for gaming and daytime PC productivity (brighter, better HDR on colorful games, and no burn-in risk using it all day for productivity.)
    OLED for watching movies and TV shows at night.

  • @DrakonR
    @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +4

    OLED gives a great SDR experience in the monitor market. HDR is more impactful on miniLED, but we need more miniLED support because KTC and Innocn aren't cutting it.

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 2 месяца назад +1

      HDR is trash disable it.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад

      @@drunkhusband6257 below average IQ take yet again.

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 2 месяца назад

      @@drunkhusband6257 It is not lol

  • @ahmadsultankadir1
    @ahmadsultankadir1 2 месяца назад +4

    If you rich buy both but if you dont buy only Mini-LED
    Well i got Mini-LED and never had a OLED because i dont wanna get burn in..
    I will buy QD-OLED when is free from burn in lol

    • @ozgurkuzu2202
      @ozgurkuzu2202 Месяц назад +1

      Qd oleds prices will come down , for now its expensive and risky

  • @christofernystrom2840
    @christofernystrom2840 2 месяца назад +2

    My Macbook m1 pro with mini led with 2596 zones looks just as good as my CX oled TV if not better overall.
    Better on some content worse on other.

  • @jonathonbarrios3199
    @jonathonbarrios3199 Месяц назад

    I hear that JOLED is "superior" to QD-OLED and WOLED in terms of text clarity due to the traditional RGB strip layout on the JOLED versus a triangle layout on the QD-OLED and a 4 strip layout on the WOLED. The INNOCN 32Q1R has a JOLED panel, is 32 inches, and is *only* 60Hz. I'm trying to decide between the 32Q1R and the INNOCN 32M2V, which is a 32 inch mini-LED 144Hz monitor. My reason for choosing the mini-LED INNOCN is because of I hear the refresh rate is appreciated when used as a main productivity monitor and it has excellent color reproduction and video quality. My question is, which would be the better choice between these two monitors? I will be using the monitor mainly for productivity (software dev, content creation, content consumption) with minimal 1080p/60fps gaming (Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate, Nintendo Switch output).

  • @PabloB888
    @PabloB888 2 месяца назад +1

    Contrast on FALD LCDs fluctuate greatly, for example in darker scenes with small bright objects (such as stars), the contrast on the mini-LED will drop to near native levels. Dark objects in extremely bright scenes may also appear too bright due to backlight spill. IMHO OLED still have clear contrast advantage even compared to minileds.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +5

      You should really see a Bravia 9 in person.

    • @PabloB888
      @PabloB888 2 месяца назад +2

      @DrakonR I'm a photographer and photoshop artist and I've never seen an LCD (including sony minileds) with natural looking contrast.
      When it comes to Bravia TVs, Sony has increased the number of dimming zones to 1500-2800 (depending on screen size) in their latest mini-led TVs, but that's still nothing when you look at the totall number of pixels at 4K (8.3M).
      A quote from RTINGS sony bravia 9 QLED review:
      "There's some noticeable blooming that bleeds into the black bars of letterboxed movies during very bright scenes. There's also more apparent blooming when watching the TV from an angle. Finally, there's considerable blooming across the entire screen if you open any settings menu, even when hitting the volume buttons on the remote."
      Even 2800 dimming zones can't cover 8.3 million pixels, no matter how advanced the backlight control is. If you know where to look, the difference is very noticeable.
      Also keep in mind that we are talking about PC monitors here, and minileds on PC are not nearly as advanced as 65-85'inch TVs. The best PC Minileds have about 1000 dimming zones. They cost 3x as much as QD OLEDs, but still have much lower contrast.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад

      @@PabloB888 wow. A lot of assumptions and they're all wrong. Definitely wouldn't be taking your professional advice.

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso 2 месяца назад +3

      @@PabloB888 most LCD (mini LED) lovers here are just Sony fan boys or ppl who havent even tried top tier OLED displays. Makes me laugh when they are saying OLEDs are dim or afraid of burn ins... its 2024 and burns ins are something least I'm worried about.

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 2 месяца назад +2

      @@DrakonR Nothing wrong about it at all. he is in fact fully right

  • @LexLutha
    @LexLutha 2 месяца назад

    It’s the scenes with snow and bright sunny days that kills OLED for me. I have tried tons of different panels and I’m still using my PG27UQ. I cannot wait for an upgrade that I love.

  • @elliotpolanco159
    @elliotpolanco159 2 месяца назад +11

    I think I might go for mini-LED because it is brighter.

    • @PD-ws4td
      @PD-ws4td 2 месяца назад +4

      It is brighter, sure, but the thing about display brightness is that your eyes adjust and gets used to whatever you have. It's like how an iPhone at low brightness still seems like a flashlight, but might look like it is completely off during day time.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@@PD-ws4tdno.. there is such a thing as too dim.

    • @chellur9562
      @chellur9562 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@PD-ws4tdive tried a qd oled monitor and ive returned it so fast, the desktop does look better but hdr is so muted and i can't go back to fortnite or any game that isn't 1k nits fullscreen

    • @TheMasterMakarov
      @TheMasterMakarov 2 месяца назад +3

      @@PD-ws4td have you seen mini led ? your eyes are not adjusting to 1000 nits fullscreen brightness

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso 2 месяца назад

      @@chellur9562 hahaha good luck gaming at 1k nits monitor at monitor level distance. .

  • @teekanne15
    @teekanne15 2 месяца назад

    I got a LG G3 TV for a year now. Its amazing but when the content is not opimized for HDR its not a lot better then LED. Especially when in a bright room during the day. Also I found that the extreme contrast almost looks unnatural as in nature you never have absence of light a few micrometer next to birght light.

  • @LOLBTLOLBT
    @LOLBTLOLBT 6 дней назад

    I tried qd oled monitor with glossy screen, it's just too dim, the color white looks off side by side with IPS, in well lit env, the black is subtle because it's glossy, matte would make it dimmer, oled monitor is just not ready, while oled tvs are great

  • @Savitarax
    @Savitarax 2 месяца назад +5

    We are better at perceiving changes in dark tones vs light tones. Which is why OLED is so popular even if miniled gets 3-4 times as bright.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +4

      Not true at all..

    • @Savitarax
      @Savitarax 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DrakonR literally watch monitors unboxed updated testing video. They show clearly how we see changes in dark tones better than light tones.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Savitarax I don't need to live vicariously through review channels. I use the monitors myself. 👍

    • @juanblanco7898
      @juanblanco7898 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DrakonR It's fine if you're a brightness queen and only/mainly concerned with that. There's no arguing on what provides subjectively better experience to you personally.
      But the thing about human eyes being wat more sensitive to brightness differences in low light conditions is a well established and scientifically proven fact.
      It's not that relevant when viewing high APL content in a bright room, though.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад

      @@juanblanco7898 sure it is. It's funny how the same people who argue everyone sees things differently will argue facts when it suits their narrative.
      Move along.

  • @kamikaze00007
    @kamikaze00007 2 месяца назад

    What we really need is IOLED. InOrganic Light Emitting Diode where the diodes don't burn-in/out. That would probably be the best all-arounder.

    • @omarali6651
      @omarali6651 2 месяца назад +3

      Led is inorganic light emitting diode
      Edit: micro led is the all rounder

  • @jrelitedk1814
    @jrelitedk1814 5 дней назад

    I went for the QD-OLED S95D. Gotta say the anti glare help doing gaming and watching movies. No mirror reflection doing dark scenes, and it has to be a strong direct window reflection to affect the picture quality. But at that point glossy would be ruined too

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike 2 месяца назад

    3 years isn't a long enough warranty period for burn-in. I'm not even replacing my CPU or GPU that quickly, let alone my monitor.

  • @franda777
    @franda777 2 месяца назад

    I love my mini led, it looks fantastic, the brightness cannot be overlooked, it truly makes for spectacular HDR even if the contrast isn't as good as oled.

  • @TheQuebecerInFrance
    @TheQuebecerInFrance 2 месяца назад +5

    The issue with OLED is that you can’t work with it without babying it.

    • @ThisIsExile91
      @ThisIsExile91 2 месяца назад

      The pixel cleaning and pixel shifting are both automatic on my monitor 😊

  • @504Trey
    @504Trey 2 месяца назад +1

    As soon as u said all mini leds have matte screens i instantly knew it already lost the fight 😂😂😂

  • @aubrynobicop6924
    @aubrynobicop6924 2 месяца назад

    hopefully gaming oled monitors get bfi soon since they dont have a backlight they could do it like how crts do it natively scanline which would be amazing for motion clarity due to how our eyes perceive motion itt would put oled even further ahead of lcd for gaming currently the 1080p 540hz monitors still have a slight edge over oled for comp gaming but its not large and bfi would kill lcds for competitive gaming.

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 2 месяца назад

      OLED already killed LED a long time ago.

  • @blitzk0
    @blitzk0 2 месяца назад +1

    i think oled looks quite a bit better than mini led. but i just can't give up the 57' neo g9 form factor

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад

      Of course you would think that coming from a Samsung VA.. lol

    • @drunkhusband6257
      @drunkhusband6257 2 месяца назад

      Except 7680x2160 is ass to run even with a 4090

    • @blitzk0
      @blitzk0 2 месяца назад

      @@drunkhusband6257 i dont game much

  • @johnl.7582
    @johnl.7582 2 месяца назад

    In terms of TVs, given that most people watch TV and movies with subtitles now, and subtitles are the main area where blooming is a issue, it's a shame that the TV/content industry hasn't latched on to this to produce an OLED "subtitles bar" which slings under the main display. The fact that TV promo shots and reviews are all about "look at this picture of a bouncing ball" and not "here are some readable subtitles", it just goes to show how out of touch the industry is with how its products are actually being used.

  • @claykeough7898
    @claykeough7898 Месяц назад

    I'm waiting on oled for several valid reasons:
    Price drop(especially on large screen models)
    Brightness issues
    Compression and upscaling getting better with wifi streaming(a problem on any model device)
    Size with better value
    Burn in becoming a non issue
    Honestly mini led or when it becomes micro led might end up beating OLED like it did plasma because of it's value and capabilities mixed with getting better and better with competing with OLED contrast and motion. 🤷 Just saying I'm going to wait because I don't have f*ck you money to want to spend 5-6000 dollars on a big screen. My 85" X90L is mostly awesome for 2k 😎

  • @1ofnine317
    @1ofnine317 2 месяца назад

    I bought a PG32UQX several years ago and was wanting something new. So I bought the Samsung Odyssey OLED G9. Me personally, I liked the vividness of the PG32UQX over the OLED. Yes, in dark scenes the OLED did look better. But was the OLED so much better in dark scenes that I wanted to give up 1400 nits of vividness in everything else? No. To me the Mini LED FALD backlight was close enough to OLED for me. There was some blooming but nothing terrible to make me keep the OLED and lose the extreme vividness the PG32UQX provided. There is just something that the brightness gave to the image and color that the OLED could not achieve. Now, if OLED could achieve the same brightness as the Mini LED, without burn-in, it would be the OLED all day long.

  • @JimProfit357
    @JimProfit357 20 дней назад

    I want a Mini-LED gaming monitor, that is HDR compatible but has the best possible backlight strobing options for motion clarity.
    My old PG27VQ uses ULMB, and can get CRT-or-better motion clarity while remaining bright enough for SDR.
    Unfortunately, that old monitor peaks at 400nits, doesn't support HDR (8bit only), has a TN panel with an ugly anti-reflect coating and, due to archaic backlight design, has piss-poor contrast. I don't care about super high refresh, it's meaningless when you don't have the fps to match.
    If manufacturers get their act together, they could build today a super bright HDR LCD monitor, with lots of dimming zones for a competitive contrast, with a tweakable intensity of backlight strobing, potentially giving you HDR400 with CRT-like motion or HDR2000+ without.
    OLED is great for movies, but they're too dim and black frame insertion will ruin brightness while never reaching beyong Plasma motion clarity in the best of case (last example was on the CX/GX)

  • @jumpierwolf
    @jumpierwolf 2 месяца назад

    I've owned both and ended up keeping the OLED. But It's not even close on high APL scenes. 250 nits full screen is way too low. 400+ nits fullscreen OLED is endgame for me.

  • @saidchammas
    @saidchammas 2 месяца назад

    All other aspects being equal, OLED simply isn't worth the increased price and burn-in risk. Unfortunately, all other aspects are NOT equal, as we still don't have glossy miniLED

  • @meat_loves_wasabi
    @meat_loves_wasabi 2 месяца назад

    Just got my Asus PG32UCDM and compared it with my Innocn 32M2V
    For my untrained eye Watching SDR and HDR content there is just a mild difference between the 2 tbh.
    One negative about the Asus is their SPDIF output ONLY does 2.1.. does not support 5.1 speaker system

  • @rua893
    @rua893 2 месяца назад +1

    great video as always my good sir 👍👍

  • @MrGrzegorzD
    @MrGrzegorzD 2 месяца назад +1

    Yes, OLED is better. Input lag, response times, contrast.

  • @rorynolan2322
    @rorynolan2322 2 месяца назад

    You could add things like viewing angles as a criteria of judgement.
    Do you include qd-oled in this. I would assume you do as woled and qd-oled behave very similarly in all these scenarios.

  • @I.AMWallzy
    @I.AMWallzy 2 месяца назад +1

    Oled is good at black thats it

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 26 дней назад

      How smooth is your brain?

    • @I.AMWallzy
      @I.AMWallzy 26 дней назад

      @cenciende9401 just personal experience dude. Played on 4k 240hz oled and 4k 240hz miniled. Easy pick miniled. Once microled monitors become a thing oled will be dead forever besides for the meat riders that can't think for themselves

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 2 месяца назад

    why are you comparing a 480hz oled to a 144hz IPS?

  • @rizqi-hiktakaewi678
    @rizqi-hiktakaewi678 2 месяца назад +3

    I'd take GLOSSY plain shitty-old 1000:1 IPS over any grainy-dull-paper-matte OLED or even microLED altogether.

  • @TheLDunn1
    @TheLDunn1 2 месяца назад

    think there are other categories that should have been included.
    depending upon the intended primary use of the monitor, the relative importance of the categories changes.
    I think the above should be represented in any discussion as in this video.
    So, for example, 'gamers' might pay more attention to Response Times, than say someone editing photos & videos, where colour gamet coverage & colour accuracy of a monitor might be of more importance to them than response times.......colur accuracy & gamet coverage being a category totally abscent from this review. Like wise, 'Productivity' (office use, Spreadsheets, word processors etc) may value text crispness & sharpness over Response Times.....but granted, text crispness also comes down to PPi which may vary from monitor to monitor regardless of the underlying tech.
    You kind of need to consider each use case independantly though, & maybe make recommendations for each.....so many monitor reviews seem to just focus on the gamer & ignore everyone else.

  • @txkingg
    @txkingg 2 месяца назад +1

    Oled due to response times.

  • @kwadwo1000
    @kwadwo1000 2 месяца назад +1

    QD Oled doesnt have pure black so lacks good HDR, but WOLED hdr blacks better than mini-LED

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 26 дней назад

      A pixel literally being off is as black as is possible. WTF is wrong with you?

  • @Hamza-yu1ur
    @Hamza-yu1ur 2 месяца назад

    Bravia 9 from Sony has made the mini led stock price go to the moon.

  • @toluogundipe101
    @toluogundipe101 2 месяца назад

    2v2 customs
    MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 & GIGABYTE AORUS FO27Q2(announced so far)
    VS
    LG ULTRAGEAR OLED 27GS95QE-B & ASUS ROG STRIX OLED XG27AQDMG
    this will be a direct head2head

  • @blackberuang
    @blackberuang 2 месяца назад +4

    OLED NO 1 BYE!

  • @CosmicMindSense
    @CosmicMindSense 2 месяца назад +4

    Protect your eyes by going oled, no need to play super high brightness

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 2 месяца назад

      Below average IQ take

    • @enzopied3015
      @enzopied3015 2 месяца назад +1

      Such an unscientific take, spoken so confidently

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 2 месяца назад +1

      Every oled is so dim that you need to increase brigness multitude times to get even near to need to protect your eyes. Cloydy day outside = no need eye protestiin. Is about 20000 to 40000 nits ”full screen”!
      Oled tv 250 nits fullscreeen… we are not there yet

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso 2 месяца назад

      ​@@haukionkannel B9 measured 2,280 nits in Standard mode on a 10% white window test pattern with HDR, and 1,871 nits in Movie mode. Full-screen brightness with the Bravia 9 measures 708 nits on a white 100% pattern in Standard mode and 495 nits in Movie mode and S95D peak brightness at 1,868 nits and 1,688 nits on the same 10% HDR white window in Standard and Filmmaker picture preset modes, respectively. It also measured 427 and 318 nits full-screen brightness. Bravia 9 Mini-LED is brighter but it doesnt leave top Tier OLED much behind, beside thanks to the infinite contrast colors just pops like 3D unlike lifted black of Mini-LED and smearing thanks to VA based tech.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 2 месяца назад

    I would consider a Mini LED monitor if only they sold them glossy.

  • @villainpriest
    @villainpriest 2 месяца назад

    oled or mini led.. which style is better for eyes when late night viewing?

  • @ohokcool
    @ohokcool 2 месяца назад

    OLED monitors need to be nerfed for burn in, don’t believe me? Load up a dark grey page on your OLED and behold the grid of burn in

  • @josegdumbniglet_1
    @josegdumbniglet_1 2 месяца назад

    can you do comparisons of all of the 4k 240 oleds so far

    • @thedisplayguy
      @thedisplayguy  2 месяца назад

      Soon. I’m reviewing the last two big ones now.

  • @Kryzez
    @Kryzez 2 месяца назад

    Whats the difference between mini led and micro led ? Sounds like micro has just more lightning zones

    • @Savitarax
      @Savitarax 2 месяца назад +2

      MicroLED is basically a few things better than OLED.
      Brighter, faster, efficient
      Oleds work on microseconds,
      Micro works on nanoseconds.
      OLED works in sub 1000 nits range.
      Micro works in over 4-5000 nits

    • @Kryzez
      @Kryzez 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Savitarax thanks!

    • @MbeezySheesh
      @MbeezySheesh 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Savitarax samsung qd oleds have a peak brightness of 3000 nits. Microseconds vs nanoseconds is barely (if at all!) noticable, so its not a real benefit. More efficient ok...but lacking color and contrast. So saying microLED is better than OLED is simply wrong

    • @Savitarax
      @Savitarax 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MbeezySheesh
      Only 3000 in a very small window, not large sizes like 25+%. I’ve rarely seen any tv show anything close to 2-3000 even the s95d and g4. Only a few HDTV tests.
      MicroLED is self emissive so it delivers nearly identical contrast and black levels as OLED
      And micro led is slated to have over 95% rec 2020. Which is completely insane and basically neon color. But I see the point. Both are very similar, but microled is just going to be better since it can get brighter without degrading lifespan and has some other cool gadgets like tiling.

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 2 месяца назад

      @@Savitarax The Vava Chroma LaserTV can even do bt.2020 at 100%. But obviously cant meet the contrast and color popout by OLED.

  • @cdragon88
    @cdragon88 2 месяца назад

    each one has their upside and their downside. there is no one sided winner.

  • @Riyojin23
    @Riyojin23 2 месяца назад

    Are you going to review Odyssey OLED G8 2024?

  • @MakeSh00t
    @MakeSh00t 2 месяца назад

    MINI LED hdr on penalty latency plus 9 msec to 15msec... OLED 0 latency issue on HDR.

  • @BastyTHz
    @BastyTHz 2 месяца назад

    when will be 1080p oled ? since they can made it cheaper why no one do it ?

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 2 месяца назад +1

      No demand, small production = high price….
      Alternatively very small screen size

    • @TheMasterMakarov
      @TheMasterMakarov 2 месяца назад

      Yeah i think so too
      saving 3/4th of a gone wrong 4k tv could be great 120hz 1080p qd oled or woled for like 200$ would be nice

  • @Fanfreddy111
    @Fanfreddy111 Месяц назад

    OLED is still a new technology of today and future.

  • @GoombahGoombahGoombah
    @GoombahGoombahGoombah 2 месяца назад

    There is so many monitors. What would you recommend if you are interested in playing fps such as valorant, mmos and story singleplayer games? I feel like i'm a mix of everything, and because of thast I dont know what monitor to go for. I have a ROG STRIX 4090 and a 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K

  • @ohokcool
    @ohokcool 2 месяца назад

    Mini LED better for text

  • @GregKealey
    @GregKealey 2 месяца назад

    Does oled work for productivity use cases?

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel 2 месяца назад +1

      Not so well, but it also depends on content. Oled does not like static UI elements.

    • @deuswulf6193
      @deuswulf6193 Месяц назад

      @@haukionkannel Its not so bad if you have the brightness cranked down for normal desktop use and don't ignore the pixel refreshing. A lot of people who try using oled for productivity try to push the brightness, which will increase the risk of burn in. The same can happen if you play the same game for a long period of time, as the HUD elements will largely be static.

  • @mz1929
    @mz1929 2 месяца назад

    Mastering Monitors or bust

  • @laserxlars8056
    @laserxlars8056 2 месяца назад

    dont forget oled pixel´s die after around 5 years

  • @TheMasterMakarov
    @TheMasterMakarov 2 месяца назад

    I simply wouldn't feel comfortable just watching youtube on an oled monitor
    so I might aswell get a tv rather than an oled monitor they're about the same price anyways ......

    • @TheMasterMakarov
      @TheMasterMakarov 2 месяца назад

      ( and they keep their resell value alot better haha ( atleast i aint buying a used oled lol ) )

    • @De-M-oN
      @De-M-oN 2 месяца назад

      youtube? why you worry about youtube?

    • @TheMasterMakarov
      @TheMasterMakarov 2 месяца назад

      @@De-M-oN no i mean just using it as a display
      just using it yknow
      not having an imaginary timer running evaluating if every second of it is worth it

  • @amateurwizard
    @amateurwizard 2 месяца назад

    I'm bussin' for it

  • @o0PRiNGER0o
    @o0PRiNGER0o 2 месяца назад +1

    2024 oled pc monitors trash still dimm af

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso 2 месяца назад

      2024 oled monitors are trash and dimm? where are you getting those info from? Current Gen OLED's are hitting 270-300 nits at 100% White Window Max Brightness (SDR and HDR) and 850 nits at 10% white windows. Especially for monitor thats very bright and has way better contrast and 0 ghosting unlike Mini-LED suffering from smearing and ghosting issue. There is reason why most monitor companies and companies like Apple and Samsung are ditching Mini-LED for their monitors, smartphones and tablet and going OLED.

    • @o0PRiNGER0o
      @o0PRiNGER0o 2 месяца назад

      @@ElGrueso Real world use that's still too dim, hitting 270-300nits is not the same as sustaining 270-300nits even "if" it can which it cant 270-300nits is still dim af, 800nits is bright, but I'm not going to watch media or game on a 10% window

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso 2 месяца назад

      @@o0PRiNGER0o 270-300 is at 100% white windows max sustained brightness, no one watch anything at 300 100% white widows brightness, and G4 hitting 1500 nits sustained brightness at 10% is super impressive which is brighter than some Mini-LED out there and thats not even considering the color that pops with the infinite contrast level. If that is too dim for you I dont know how u were even watching a TV before 2022 🤷🏻‍♂️ There is reason why LG G4, A95L and S95D has the best rating ever on Rting even higher than the brightness Mini-LED out there. Besides the TV is not all about brightness…

    • @o0PRiNGER0o
      @o0PRiNGER0o 2 месяца назад

      @@ElGrueso I am well aware of how bright TVs can be owner of a G4 myself no argument in that, I was under the impression we're talking about oled PC monitors