I’ve got the Legion 5 17 inch, Ryzen 7 5800H Gtx 3060, added 32 gig of ram and 2 Terri bytes of M2 nVME ssd…Samsung 980 M2 ssd for the other slot. I have never had this much power!! Screen is color accurate, plenty of ports, even an SD card reader… This is my MB Pro!! Please Review the Legion 5 17 inch Amd Version… 17 Laptops never get any Love!
I'm a student Jarrod, but when I start earning, I'll be sure to contribute to your Patreon. There is just too much effort that you've put into helping people make the right choice and spending their money wisely. I can't thank you enough. P. S Can't wait for the Victus Review!
Well said. Great review. Ever since Dell’s inception, they always fall short and aren’t totally transparent with their specs. I think their bloated software is also an issue. Big “no” from me.
@@josephj6521 There is hardly any bloated software that comes installed on the Dell G15.. it has far less bloat than my last two ASUS ROG and TUF gaming laptops.i purchased.. The Dell G15 5515 with the 5800H and 130w 3060Max-P along with the bios update that enables the mux switch and fixed the thermals is now a perfect gaming laptop for the $ ... It's only negative is the 120hz screens low sRGB and respone time - yet it is the only screen that I've had which came almost perfectly colour and colour temp calibrated out of the box, so that makes up for some of its shortcomings... For the price the Dell G15 5515 it's the best bang for $ in my opinion as I got it for a few hundred $ cheaper than anything else with the same hardware.. if you're lucky enough to live in a region that offers the 165hz screen as an option or by default then it's a great purchase, as it's basically an Alienware M15 R5 without the exhorbident price tag..
I was able to get the premium model (165Hz screen + 3060) for a total of $1149.41 (With tax included) as part of a sale that Dell had early in August, and I can confirm that the model reviewed in the video is basically identical. I have the same enjoyments (Battery life, quiet operation, overall power) and gripes (Arrow keys, BIOS-only settings), and would recommend this overall, especially with a similar sale to the one I got.
@@isaacr7416 switch off the varilux setting in the AMD graphics settings. I have the same laptop and battery life improved quite a bit after that (but you have to run it in battery saver mode)
This is why i trust 100% of your review. you did it with objectively wihtout any intervention at all, you mentioned the pros and cons on every laptop. so i can expect true result of your review also you give to Brand some sugestion to do something better on the laptop that they made. damn, i never found laptop reviewer who better than you are. keep doing it jarrod
If Dell improves the display, the I/O on the lower end devices and adds a separate power button, this laptop would be one of the best they've ever made! But at that point it would probably be branded as an Alienware.
Got this laptop new on sale for 657$. Even with all the problems shown in this review, I still think it's incredible laptop for the price I paid for it.
Where did you get it at that price? I'm really interested right now since wherever you got it, it could be cheaper to import it at that price than what I get on amazon even with the added taxes.
Honestly this has been a great laptop, especially for the price point. There have been major issues with advanced optimus turned on though. I'm not sure why that is but it seems like the integrated graphics tends to artifact. Turning it off totally fixes the problem though
Thanks for the review. Yesterday I ordered a G15 with i7-11800H, Nvidia RTX 3060 6gb, 16gb, 1tb ssd, 120hz display. I never play games. I use my computers for Lightroom, Photoshop, Topaz Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Gigapixel AI (Topaz programs benefit a lot from a good GPU -- Lightroom and Photoshop use the GPU for some things too, but the benefit is less), and just normal usage (email, internet, etc.). I usually have it connected to an external display. My current computer is a 2019 Dell laptop with i7-8565u, Nvidia Geforce MX250 2gb, 32gb, 512gb SSD. So, I hope with the much more powerful GPU and faster CPU that the Topaz programs, in particular, will see a nice speed up in interactive use. I need something reasonably mobile so that is why I don't get a desktop. I have another display at another location I go to sometimes so I don't need to carry my display around, only the laptop. I live in Japan and there are not as many choices as in the U.S. with regards to many different models of computers and configurations. The Dell Japan website has fewer choices and mostly no customization. Prices are usually quite a bit higher here too, but I was able to get this G15 right now while they have discounts going so the price isn't a whole lot higher than in the U.S. Fingers crossed that it works well for my purposes. I will probably change the memory to 32gb later. The Dell Japan website, as I said, allows no customization so I couldn't get 32gb at the time I ordered. I realize that you and most of your viewers are most interested in games so, naturally, you focus a lot on that. There are many people who do photo and video editing too though and it is hard to find information about which computers, GPUs, CPUs, etc. work well with programs such as the Topaz programs. The Topaz programs take 10-20 seconds to update my display when viewing a photo at 100% every time I make a change using my current computer. That is the time using the Nividia GPU. Using the CPU it takes 30-50 seconds. And I just have a 1920x1200 display. People using higher rez displays which show more pixels when at 100% can take a long time even with a higher end GPU than my current MX250. It would be cool if you considered this sort of real world benchmark too.
arigato, loved your comment! would you recommend this laptop for me who does simple video editing? (I just put together multiple 1080p-4k mini videos) just that, nothing more advanced like editing the actual video. BUT important thing is i really need to speed up the exporting time of the vid, thank you!
No stupid jokes, no cringey bits, just concise and to the point. Thank you 🙏 I bought this laptop for $800 as an open box item. I’m an audio producer running ProTools. My question, if someone could be so kind, if I upgrade the RAM will that help with lag and latency in recording or when plugins get convoluted?
Excellent review, I'd like to add that for the RTX 3050 model one of the two USB 2.0 ports has the same speed as USB 3.0 - I don't understand why they did this... As for the cooling system, most laptops gain a thermal boost after upgarding the thermal paste, for this laptop it's going to be difficult, as you pointed out, the heatpipes are under.
The only guy to call out nvidia for their bullshit on the 3050 and 3050ti this year. Props man. The 3050 and 3050ti are worse at launch than the 1050 4gb and 1650 gddr6. At least they didn't run into vram limits AND were cheap at around $700.
@@cameronbosch1213 To be fair, even the 1660ti can run AMD's FSR so yeah, its already better than a 3050ti. And given its got more vram, you can easily max out textures. So we've entered a new level of bad xx50 cards from nvidia. To the point where last gen stuff makes more sense for gaming.
@@siyzerix If I couldn't afford a RTX 3060 and had to choose between an RTX 3050 Ti and GTX anything, I would wait until I could afford the RTX 3060. I can't wait for AMD GPUs to give Nvidia a run for their money!
@@cameronbosch1213 Smart choice mate. I legit swear, people out there buying a legion laptop with a shitty 3050ti over a hp victus with a 3060 and slightly lower cost. Why? ''Build'' or ''Mux switch'' or someother dumbass reason. For fuck's sake a mux switch ain't gonna make a 3050ti faster than a 3060. And a worse build doesn't mean the laptop will die immediately. It can last a long time when you take care of it.
I managed to score this laptop here in Australia 🇦🇺 w/ Ryzen 5600h, RTX3050, 8GB ram, 512GB NVME, 120hz screen & $75 Dell gift voucher (Getting Ram upgrade for it) on Black Friday via eBay Dell Site for $645USD including taxes (~$580USD no taxes) for a Xmas 🎄gift. I’m stoked w/ the purchase!
Great video ! Dell was the last company I can think of competing to the legion 5 quite well imo considering the last gen model was quite bad But the the 2021 11th gen Helios has a full 130W 3060 too so interested
Love the review! I've got this G15 myself and your review is pretty accurate. It's true that it does run hot with G mode enabled so I suggest stay away from it since it only gives 3-5 fps anyway I'm so happy with the build, looks, screen quality(the 165hz one) and performance so I highly recommend this one! (Also, it's quite cheap compared to competitors)
Okay after 3 months of use my Dell G15 has proved that it is working as good as it was. I live in Delhi where average summer temps can heat a room to 30-35C degree and the laptop still maintained temps under 95C is surprising. By using AC in room or a cooling pad you can easily lock CPU temps under 90C.
i just got home with my dell g15 with a 3060, i bought it from the store without watching any reviews or doing the usual research first, so I'm doing that on it right now xD
Good review, thank you for this. I have the 3050 version with 32GB ram and 3TB of storage. Overall Im pretty happy with my machine, all together it cost me about $1000.00
Dell's G15 actually gives Lenovo's Legion 5 a good fight - detailed comparison between the two will be up in a week or two! yesssss u r the best bcz i tried to compare both side by side on different tab but lol u did't tested same games. waiting for every thing u post.
Can't beat your reviews. Only thing I wish to know, which is edge case, is whether or not any of the laptops you test have firmware that allows MSI Afterburner to adjust the frequency voltage curves. Or is that a given these days?
Normally MSI afterburner isn't restricted to do that cause it's software. For casual gaming it's the only way to tweak (+ throttle stop CPU side). Most special features are only for the "true" gaming series of the different manufacturers.
Most models now are coming with a 165Hz screen. The 120Hz screen is the biggest problem in the laptop. If you get the 165Hz version, the only actual problem that remains and can't be fixed is the Alienware control center. It's legitimately one of the top 3 laptops of 2021 for me.
I'm from Brazil and mine came with X8 ram sticks and also the socket for the second SSD. So I think they're varying those things in different countries
Huge Plus that Dell has - is availability and non-scalper pricing. Recently was considering buying a gaming laptop in Canada and there is absolutely no place where you can get one for a decent price, newegg is more expensive
For the price you pay during a sale, for the performance you get is excellent value. Legion 5 and pro also has a lot of problems including a whine noise. Dell g15 is excellent in comparison. Also get the 165hz option. Rgb keyboard is not game changer.
Exactly.. I got the Dell G15 Ryzen edition same specs as in the review but with the 130w vbios update.. on sale and it's amazing... The best performance for your $ anywhere and it's a solid laptop that looks nice. The 120hz screen is no issue to me and if it was I'd invest in an external monitor with all the money I saved by getting the Dell on sale
Can i please have a link to a model with 165hz screen? Been trying to look for it and the only thing i could find was one with I7-10870H instead of the amd. Any ideas if it's worth taking the i7 instead of that 165hz screen if i cant find the amd one with 165hz?
@@meiz1795 the 120hz screen isn't that bad if that's all you can get.. even an online review said although the sRGB maybe low, it's calibrated so well that it looks better out of the box than others with better specs... I wouldn't get less then an 8 core CPU
@@mrbrad4637 arent both amd and i7 8 cores? The 165hz one im looking at is actually discounted right now making it cheaper so im wondering if the amd to i7 cpu change will make much performance difference? All the benchmarks im looking at say that amd performs better, but i have no idea how big of a difference will it make in practice
I went for the Legion 5 3060 and love it. Previously had a Dell but they couldn’t match the 2200 NZD I paid for the Legion 5. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on what is the better machine.
BTW, I would 100% upgrade the screen. In addition to the issues Jarrod brought up, the 120hz screen also uses PWM at a frequency that can cause issues. While most people associate PWM with OLED screens, cheap LCD screens can also use it, although it is preferable that if it is used for the frequency is very high. Which on this screen, it is very low (like 200hz or so). That may contribute to the perceived ghosting Jarrod talked about.
Your reviews are always super helpful. I actually just snagged one of these at $796.55, but it was the 3050ti+i5-10500H model. Did I make a mistake here?
Yes, the 3050 series even the ti is slow, lacks enough vram , A 3060Max-P minimum and you need a 6 to 8 core cpu minimum and then you'll be a happy gamer for the next 3 or 4 years, especially with DLSS .. so the ryzen edition as in this video is the one to go for. As far as making a mistake getting the Dell G15, no, not at all . It's a solid laptop and the screen is fine..
@@juansebastianperez3190 there is many versions of the Dell G15, The Dell G15 5515 with the 5800H and 130w 3060 Max-P is definately worth getting for the right price (20% discount they often have) it's only negative is in some countries (i.e. mine here in Australia) Dell only offers the 120Hz screen as an option - this screen has slow response and relatively poor sRGB, no HDR although... It is almost perfectly calibrated for colour and colour temperature out of the box (it's actually the first screen that I've ever had that came perfectly calibrated out of the box) so I personally think it looks good and that makes up for some of the screens negatives.. if your country offers the 165hz screen with the Dell G15 then get it as that's an awesome screen.. if you are going to use an external monitor or good out of the box calibration is important too you, then get the Dell G15 even with the 120hz screen as it's cheaper than most of the competition, looks great (in my opinion) and in the above mention config, it's basically an Alienware without all the bling (I opened mine to install a larger SSD and replace the RAM with x8 stuff and the motherboard has the alienware logo printed on it - plus the bios and vbios updates work on both the G15 and alienware so the G15 5515 is an Alienware M15 R5 with a different screen and without the exorbitant price tag) Also the Dell G15 works flawlessly with Windows 11 - so if you plan to upgrade to Windows 11 then again get the Dell G15 .. sorry for the long post
Love You me Videos! Great Work! It was because of your Videos and reviews I bought the Perfect Choice for Me…Legion 5 17 inch Amd Ryzen 7 5800h, 3060!!!
@@mrbrad4637 Jarods Tech just did a comparison between the 2070 and 3060. The 3060 was 20% overall faster in 98 percent of test. And matched with the Ryzen 5800h and 32 gig of proper ram…it’s a killer!!
@@jedidiahsteele7847 yes I watched Jarrod's video myself.. It's amazing.. I got the Dell G15 varient myself and I love it.. so I have the 5800H and 3060 130w 😍😊👍 the best combination of hardware and performance for the $ going right now!!
@@mrbrad4637 I got the Lenovo Legion 5 17 inch upgrades the ram per his video went from 16 gig to 32 added another 1 terabyte Samsung 980 ms ssd for a total of 2 terabytes…feel like I have a Shelby Mustang GT500!!! I had a Asus Rog Strix with a gtx 1650 and a 9th gen six core i7 with and 16 gig ram, and 1.5 terabytes of space…it was decent but the Lenovo i have now is just amazing.. color accurate screen amazing cooking. Best part in bought it from Micro Center for 1350, with ram upgrades and ssd addition plus a 4 k monitor…all of that combined was around 1800!! Can’t beat it at all!!
@@jedidiahsteele7847 great choice and you do have the Shelby GT Mustang's of gaming laptops! You will be very happy with it for years to come 🙂👍.. I bought my Dell G15 as an upgrade from my ASUS TUF with a 2060rtx as it was paired with the Pathetic 3750H CPU that bottlenecked the system horrifically!! I didn't do my research when I bought that one!! Thankful I sold it and have my G15 now which is like triple the fps at the highest settings than my Asus got at the lowest!! I got mine got $1954 AUD which was the cheapest 3060 5800h Laptop here by more than $300+ and the ryzen 7 4000 and up series CPU were such a massive leap in mobile CPU technology.. desktop CPU performance in a laptop now
I guess their thermal paste application has gotten a bit better since with G-Mode enabled I hit slightly higher temps on the CPU at 102℉. I really think I need to pick up the cooling pad you are using since it looks like it is super effective with this laptop.
Thanks for the video. I bought this laptop two weeks ago and as far as I use it, I am happy for the value. I use a monitor so the screens does not bother me. Besides when I want to improve, the change for better rams will be a good option! Thx for the tips!
@@cl_0ud470 I use for work and gaming - for work just the usual Office 365 apps - mostly very large excel spreadsheets.(ofcourse it is lightning fast at running windows and office) as for gaming, I play Microsoft flight simulator 2020 - runs between 78 and 92 fps T 1080p with everything set to high end /high.. I also play resident evil village and it runs at 82 - 95 fps 1080p everything set to high with Ray tracing on medium.. I also play warzone battle Royale and it runs at 90 to 120 fps at 1080p.everything on high/ultra bar texture which I set to normal due to 6gb vram - this is also with Ray tracing on and DLSS turned off!!! With the mux switch and the 130w vbios update it runs like a 90w 3070 and if you swap out the ram for x8 stuff that's another 10+ fps so it actually beats some 3070s in benchmarks. I am confident it will last 4 / 5 years easily as it's build very solid.. the only negatives are the 120hz screen people say isn't that great, but I have no issue with it and find it perfectly fine for what it is and the thermals on the CPU get to to 99 degrees on heavy load - but they are designed to run that hot as I've done plenty of research on the matter.. I feel it's the best value gaming laptop on the market right now and in actually prefer it over even the more expensive ones as I need a numpad and prefer it's design and colour over the ones with flashing lights everywhere.
@@mrbrad4637 thanks for the reply. I'm mostly concerned about the performance which seems great, I'm mostly going to be using it for coding and streaming esport titles, monitor isn't really a problem as I'm planning to buy an external monitor anyway. How much did you get it for btw?, in my country it's about $980 (converted) 1660ti, rx5600m alternatives are like $250++ more money which is $50 away from a 2060.
@@cl_0ud470 No worries.. it's is a phenomenal system - I've been using computers since the commodore 64 in the late 80s and this is my 4th gaming laptop(I've owned alienware, Asus ROG and Asus tuf previously) and the dell G15 is by far my favourite out of all the PC's and laptops over the years.. I purchased it to upgrade from my ASUS TUF which had a pathetic 3750h CPU that bottlenecked the 2060rtx significantly.. My G15 has the 5800H and 3060rtx 130w I paid $1954 AUD for it direct off Dell when they had 15% off.. which is a basically the cheapest 3060 laptop on the market in Australia yet it certainly doesn't look, feel or perform like a budget system.. I personally wouldn't get less than the 3060 if you plan to keep it for 5 years as it's the best performance for the $ right now and with DLSS it should remain able to play AAA titles well into the future.. I also purchased the alienware 610m wireless mouse, the alienware 510h 7.1 surround headset and the dell lite gaming backpack for it and highly recommend all those aswell - dell had discounts on everything so I got all of that including the laptop for less than $2200 aud
With the latest bios update the cooling is improved.. I've never seen it hit 100 degrees.. it stays in the 80s to very low 90s gaming.. and under heavy load 95 is the highest it reaches now.. not the 100.5 as seen in the review... Also my idle temps hover around the 40s 50s now too. *edit warzone gets the cpu up to 99 degrees, though with a cooling pad I've gotten it down to 92*
I also bought G15 with RTX 3050(95W)+ Ryzen 5 5600H and I noticed that the idle temps were also very high compared to other gaming laptops. Idk what's with it's thermal system but it's not an issue coz as temps rises the fans cools the temp. Overall performance wise the laptop is a beast even with RTX 3050.
I disagree completely. Given it's powerful cpu and full power 3060 after the latest VBIOS, I'd say it's way smaller than I expect for a "gaming" laptop. Maybe people have different expectations, but I'm pretty pleased with what the nearly cheapest priced 3060 laptop gets you in terms of performance and weight.
@@TheThatsnasty Agreed, Its been four month since I bought Dell G15 RTX 3060, and it is very powerful, I can play any games in ultra setting without problem. So design doesn't bother me anymore :)
Muy buen video. Me gustaría que tuvieras un canal en español 😞 o almenos subtítulos en español ya que das informaciónes muy interesantes y sería agradable para algunos que podamos escucharla o verla en español. Good video ✨👌🙏
Hey man, I noticed in your previous reviews, namely of Lenovo Legion and Slim 7 you mentioned the sharp front edge. You're one of the rare reviewers to mention that, I have Legion 5 and that edge is driving me crazy. I noticed this one also has a seemgly sharp edge, so it would be good if you could mention all models that have such issues. Second, I know this is a stretch but it would make a big difference to have this data when you show dimensions: the distance from the front edge to the bottom of the bottom-most row of keys. I was doing some research and found that some 14" have a very large distance in this regard which makes them unsuitable for use in a reclined position.
I have bought it recently, one thing I would add is that the keyboard is not anti-ghosting, as I was playing GTA online and tried to control my scramjet mid air, I found that you cannot simultaneously press WSD or WSA at the same time, that's a inconvenience for me along with all other things this laptop has, I'm definitely not gonna keep it for long
I wish you had also mentioned that if you don’t opt for 2 nvmes the second nvme slot doesn’t come with a bracket to mount it. So now I’m stuck from ordering from AliExpress or scavenging through my local market if anyone even knows what I’m talking about. Love from Pakistan
There is another review on this model by a UK fellow on RUclips and he gives a link for a cheap bracket that suits and shows installation with said bracket...
Nice video , i was thinking about getting this pc , but after owning a g3 for almost two years worry about the overheat and thermal throttling that comes with dell Laptops ...
Thanks for the review! I've been waiting for it for months now! Any plans on a review for the Lenovo Legion 5 3070 variant VS the PRO? Theres not much information for it around
Note: I have the 165 hz one and get less than 4- 5 hour battery life even when I turn refresh rate to 60..... Its a problem multiple people have mentioned.
G15 for sure. Dell qc is decent in most cases and their maintenance service is better (depending on your location). If you can get the G15 with a discount or free upgrade of the aftersale warranty, it is a good deal for a mid range 3060 laptop.
I am on a dilemma. I have my eyes set on buying this dell model with rtx 3050 for about $990, but then I saw a dell g5 with r5 4600h and rx5600m for about $150 more, and some 1660ti laptops with the same chip for $200-250 more. Is the performance difference worth the extra money?, I'm fine with playing on medium setting and most of my games are esports
56% sRGB is horrendous. I bought an ASUS with 60% (after reading a review where it had a 97% sRGB screen). It looked like visual puke even in games. Can't believe they are still making screens that look this terrible.
Does it really make that much of a difference for general use and not photography etc? As my Dell G15 has the 120hz screen and it looks fine to me.. colour wise it's on the warmer end and looks very similar to the cinema mode my 4k HDR TV has ... It does not look bad at all too me. I'm by no means an expert though
@@mrbrad4637 Have used the 62% panda panel. The colors especially the vivid colors are washed out when playing games. I noticed the difference when I connected the TV. Without a comparison one wouldn't notice. But once you compare, there's no going back.
@@SF-li9kh Thanks for the info.. I was tossing up spending $365 (Aussie $$) more for the 👽 alienware r5 as it has all the same internals basically but with the 165hz screen but realised I need a numpad and at 40 I prefer the more subtle looks of the G series and decided if I'm not happy with the screen at worst it's good enough for gaming on the go and I can buy a decent external gaming monitor with the cash I saved going the G15 over the R5... I am more than happy with it for what it is and will likely get a HDR 1080p gaming monitor down the track
Yeah 56% sRGB is like 10% of Rec.2020 which is the modern standard for HDR measurement. Imagine being able to see only 10% of colors the cinematographers wanted you to see. (not that movies and games are mastered in Rec2020 but they will be soon enough)
Impressive as usual! But next time, do you think you could review the intel version of the G15? I would love to know how it stacks up against the AMD version!!!
@@SF-li9kh I have the intel version, I play mmos and you should go for the intel version 10000% if you do. The intel one is just superior period. I play world of warcraft and the ryzen one would be 10-30fps slower. ANd I also play emulators.
i have Dell laptop, using it now, and from what i can gather Dell laptops always run hot, and I have to spent a lot, for cooling, like replacing thermal paste (using Noctua, its better now) and thermal pad (Thermalright), and have so many issues. Im not sure if Dell has improved now or not but gudging from this video, yeah it still hot. Now im looking towards Legion, saving money now to buy one hopefully.
Tip/correction: If you press Fn + F5 it changes the keyboard backlight from dim to bright to off and it changes this setting in the bios automatically and can be done anytime.. Great review by the way! I own and love this machine and am glad to know that it's a decent performer and that I can boost things even more with a ram upgrade and a cooling pad.. I think I'll buy the cooling pad in your link as I was impresed it made that much of a difference. ** Edit sorry!! I didn't watch the Linux part **
@@JarrodsTechmy screen brightness shortcuts don't work in windows 10 either (just watched the Linux part).. I reformatted / wiped windows and they don't work even from the factory image which is strange..
I paid 1399 cad for mine with the better screen and the rgb keyboard. For that price it's freaking amazing. Edit. So I played around with the mux switch. And every game I tested saw 20% improvements when optimus was disabled!! Which is amazing!! But I noticed one caveat. I lost freesync. Meaning most of the games also started to stutter. Anyone else have this issue? Or am I crazy? I didn't super notice it in some games. But games like control everytime I used an ability the game would stutter. So idk about everyone else. But I'm keeping optimus on so I can keep freesync . Yeah I loose frames, but I prefer my games to not constantly stutter. Edit for anyone worried about heat, get the ryzen controller. I dropped the temp to 87 celsius on the cpu with zero performance drop
I just bought the laptop with the worse screen for $1499 cad. If you don't mind, for the future where did you find said deal? Was it open box, if so what store/website. Ty for any info.
12:29 this alone shows how incompetent Dell is in terms of thermal control. Random power limits, extremely low performace cooling solutions that makes the system run on thermal limits and for CPU beyond 97°C and so on. It's been like that for years and they've not changed anything. Honestly, just go for the HP, Acer or MSI options for any kind of gaming computer, or anything else really. I've owned DELL, Acer Helios 300 and HP laptops so far and DELL is incompetent beyond belief in same spec machines. 130W 3060+ 8 core CPU Dell machine is worse than 6 core+ 100W GPU HP, which isn't even close to thermal throttling in games (~70-75°C GPU, 85°C CPU). I'm not even considering better chassis (base chassis, not screen; HP has wobbly screen), better screen color range and better, exremely responsive and buttery smooth 144Hz display. Although not comparable, it can last up to 10 hours on battery too. My Helios is even better in terms of thermals (80°C average CPU, in silent mode) and has a smooth and resposive 120Hz screen compared to Dell. Battery life could've been better though but not a lot of people buy gaming laptops for battery life I believe. In fact, I'm almost 90% sure that all the thermal and power limitations on Dell is the only reason it can reach such battery life, which is a bit ironic. Don't do the same mistake as I did, do not buy Dell, ever. You'll only be dissapointed and sad with it until you get something better.
My understanding from reading in forums is that Dell does not include the ssd mounting bracket though for the extra slot. The Dell part number is PXNWV and costs Dell just a few cents. It is tiny. I think you can buy them on Amazon and ebay though for a few dollars. Dell is just stingy for not including it. :-(
RAM and screen suppliers seems to vary between region, where i live rtx 3060 versions are always bundled with 165hz, It is shipped with x8 memory manufatured locally (as shown by the stickers) and It comes with the adapter to install 2280 SSDs already inside the laptop.
Hey Jarrod, I had a quick question that is G-SYNC important and does it matter for a gaming laptop. If yes could you make a quick 3 minute video explaining it. Thanks Much love from India
i just bought the 5511 version with i7-11800H and 165Hz display after watching all of your reviews, thanks fo the help, i hope the better display solves the screen response problem :) btw do you recommend the cooling pad you use ?
I've also compared Dell's G15 with the Lenovo Legion 5 here - it's very close! ruclips.net/video/kRjyxh9AG1w/видео.html
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Well, I would still prefer my Lenovo simply because of the port placements on the back
I can't wait to see the comparison
I’ve got the Legion 5 17 inch, Ryzen 7 5800H Gtx 3060, added 32 gig of ram and 2 Terri bytes of M2 nVME ssd…Samsung 980 M2 ssd for the other slot. I have never had this much power!! Screen is color accurate, plenty of ports, even an SD card reader… This is my MB Pro!! Please Review the Legion 5 17 inch Amd Version… 17 Laptops never get any Love!
Legion 5 pro : I best.
I'm a student Jarrod, but when I start earning, I'll be sure to contribute to your Patreon. There is just too much effort that you've put into helping people make the right choice and spending their money wisely. I can't thank you enough.
P. S Can't wait for the Victus Review!
Thanks! I bought a victus this week should arrive soon
@@JarrodsTech Nice! Looking forward to it.
Sameee, even justjosh
2019 - year of the pig
2020 - year of the rat
2021 - year of the silicon shortage
2020-year of the bat
2022 : Better or Worse ?
@@SF-li9kh
Somewhere between the two!
Me in 2024 🫠
Jarrod: *It’s impressive*
Me: Wow, that’s impressive
Jarrod *and it’s disappointing*
Me: I hate it!
Well said. Great review. Ever since Dell’s inception, they always fall short and aren’t totally transparent with their specs. I think their bloated software is also an issue. Big “no” from me.
@@josephj6521 There is hardly any bloated software that comes installed on the Dell G15.. it has far less bloat than my last two ASUS ROG and TUF gaming laptops.i purchased.. The Dell G15 5515 with the 5800H and 130w 3060Max-P along with the bios update that enables the mux switch and fixed the thermals is now a perfect gaming laptop for the $ ... It's only negative is the 120hz screens low sRGB and respone time - yet it is the only screen that I've had which came almost perfectly colour and colour temp calibrated out of the box, so that makes up for some of its shortcomings... For the price the Dell G15 5515 it's the best bang for $ in my opinion as I got it for a few hundred $ cheaper than anything else with the same hardware.. if you're lucky enough to live in a region that offers the 165hz screen as an option or by default then it's a great purchase, as it's basically an Alienware M15 R5 without the exhorbident price tag..
@@mrbrad4637 whoa whoa, whats this bios update? I’m a newb sorry :P
I was able to get the premium model (165Hz screen + 3060) for a total of $1149.41 (With tax included) as part of a sale that Dell had early in August, and I can confirm that the model reviewed in the video is basically identical. I have the same enjoyments (Battery life, quiet operation, overall power) and gripes (Arrow keys, BIOS-only settings), and would recommend this overall, especially with a similar sale to the one I got.
Dang I got the same as you but I only get 4-5 hr battery life. Anything specific you've done to get the 10 hrs jarrods getting?
the lowest price in my country is 1550$ lmao
@@isaacr7416 switch off the varilux setting in the AMD graphics settings. I have the same laptop and battery life improved quite a bit after that (but you have to run it in battery saver mode)
@@theprotester5171 How do you do that?
@@rayaanmalik1301just go into the AMD graphics driver settings. It's basically right there.
Jarrod: "...but I guess nothing in life is perfect"
Me: looking bedazzled by Jarrod's consistently perfect reviews.
Yo dude that webcam looks way too good for a gaming laptop
Great review. Honestly I got this model 3months ago for University work and it's been great so far.
Hey man! Hows the noise when browsing?
Hey Jarrod! thanks you for all your indepth reviews they are all very helpfull as Im in the market for a new laptop!
Happy to help, thanks for watching!
@@JarrodsTech should I just get a cheap frameworks for school and a steam deck for gaming?
This is why i trust 100% of your review. you did it with objectively wihtout any intervention at all, you mentioned the pros and cons on every laptop. so i can expect true result of your review
also you give to Brand some sugestion to do something better on the laptop that they made. damn, i never found laptop reviewer who better than you are. keep doing it jarrod
If Dell improves the display, the I/O on the lower end devices and adds a separate power button, this laptop would be one of the best they've ever made! But at that point it would probably be branded as an Alienware.
Got this laptop new on sale for 657$. Even with all the problems shown in this review, I still think it's incredible laptop for the price I paid for it.
That's a great grab
Where did you get it at that price? I'm really interested right now since wherever you got it, it could be cheaper to import it at that price than what I get on amazon even with the added taxes.
@@tincoeani9529 It was one time deal at that particular e-store. They had like 10 of them.
Only Dell could make a laptop worthy of this title 😂
No publicity is bad publicity 😏😂😂😂
"Its a dell"
- Tech Jesus
@@suntzu1409 *Dell intensifies*
Dell moment
A certified dell moment
Honestly this has been a great laptop, especially for the price point. There have been major issues with advanced optimus turned on though. I'm not sure why that is but it seems like the integrated graphics tends to artifact. Turning it off totally fixes the problem though
we've have a good time with these no issues other then restarting it as you said once in a while but not very often does that happen
Do you guys have Keyboard rollover issues? My G15 5515 does not allow pressing more than 3 keys simultaneosly 😐
Also important to note, the 165Hz version is not available for purchase in certain countries (mine for example), so that's a pain.
Mine either
@@JarrodsTech it's available in India so I'm looking at it seems great
@@yellowflash511 where are you buying it from? im from india too and i cant find the 165hz version
@@ducdame9459 idk
Thanks for the review. Yesterday I ordered a G15 with i7-11800H, Nvidia RTX 3060 6gb, 16gb, 1tb ssd, 120hz display. I never play games. I use my computers for Lightroom, Photoshop, Topaz Denoise AI, Sharpen AI, Gigapixel AI (Topaz programs benefit a lot from a good GPU -- Lightroom and Photoshop use the GPU for some things too, but the benefit is less), and just normal usage (email, internet, etc.). I usually have it connected to an external display.
My current computer is a 2019 Dell laptop with i7-8565u, Nvidia Geforce MX250 2gb, 32gb, 512gb SSD. So, I hope with the much more powerful GPU and faster CPU that the Topaz programs, in particular, will see a nice speed up in interactive use. I need something reasonably mobile so that is why I don't get a desktop. I have another display at another location I go to sometimes so I don't need to carry my display around, only the laptop. I live in Japan and there are not as many choices as in the U.S. with regards to many different models of computers and configurations. The Dell Japan website has fewer choices and mostly no customization. Prices are usually quite a bit higher here too, but I was able to get this G15 right now while they have discounts going so the price isn't a whole lot higher than in the U.S. Fingers crossed that it works well for my purposes. I will probably change the memory to 32gb later. The Dell Japan website, as I said, allows no customization so I couldn't get 32gb at the time I ordered.
I realize that you and most of your viewers are most interested in games so, naturally, you focus a lot on that. There are many people who do photo and video editing too though and it is hard to find information about which computers, GPUs, CPUs, etc. work well with programs such as the Topaz programs. The Topaz programs take 10-20 seconds to update my display when viewing a photo at 100% every time I make a change using my current computer. That is the time using the Nividia GPU. Using the CPU it takes 30-50 seconds. And I just have a 1920x1200 display. People using higher rez displays which show more pixels when at 100% can take a long time even with a higher end GPU than my current MX250. It would be cool if you considered this sort of real world benchmark too.
arigato, loved your comment! would you recommend this laptop for me who does simple video editing? (I just put together multiple 1080p-4k mini videos) just that, nothing more advanced like editing the actual video. BUT important thing is i really need to speed up the exporting time of the vid, thank you!
“At least you can solve this problem with money” 🤣😭
Always the way hey
@@JarrodsTech I want to solve my problems with money, but then another problem arises… i don’t have the money 🤣😭
Everything other than feelings can be fixed with money these days.
@@pinguinn_ even feelings can be fixed by money, even if temporarily 🤣
@@pinguinn_ drugs my friend..
No stupid jokes, no cringey bits, just concise and to the point. Thank you 🙏
I bought this laptop for $800 as an open box item. I’m an audio producer running ProTools. My question, if someone could be so kind, if I upgrade the RAM will that help with lag and latency in recording or when plugins get convoluted?
depends on the ram usage at that moment, press win + G to see ram usage on windows
Do you use an audio interface?
already ordered this laptop with 165hz display. waiting for this to arrive 😍
You'll love it 😍😊
مستحمل معاك لغاية دلوقتي ؟ كجيمنج او استخدام بشكل عام و هل اللاب بيبطئ مع الوقت ولا لا و درجة حرارة المعالج كويسة ?
I am very happy with mine, after upgrading it to 64 GB RAM. cool price for the performance. thanks for sharing :-) cheez you are talking fast :-)
Excellent review, I'd like to add that for the RTX 3050 model one of the two USB 2.0 ports has the same speed as USB 3.0 - I don't understand why they did this... As for the cooling system, most laptops gain a thermal boost after upgarding the thermal paste, for this laptop it's going to be difficult, as you pointed out, the heatpipes are under.
Just bought one. Shame they only had the black cause I really liked the colour of yours
You're the best dude, 1st good review i've seen of this laptop. Thanks for all
The only guy to call out nvidia for their bullshit on the 3050 and 3050ti this year.
Props man. The 3050 and 3050ti are worse at launch than the 1050 4gb and 1650 gddr6. At least they didn't run into vram limits AND were cheap at around $700.
Though for a new machine, I wouldn't buy any new machine that didn't have Nvidia DLSS or AMD FXS.
@@cameronbosch1213 To be fair, even the 1660ti can run AMD's FSR so yeah, its already better than a 3050ti. And given its got more vram, you can easily max out textures.
So we've entered a new level of bad xx50 cards from nvidia. To the point where last gen stuff makes more sense for gaming.
@@siyzerix If I couldn't afford a RTX 3060 and had to choose between an RTX 3050 Ti and GTX anything, I would wait until I could afford the RTX 3060. I can't wait for AMD GPUs to give Nvidia a run for their money!
@@cameronbosch1213 Smart choice mate. I legit swear, people out there buying a legion laptop with a shitty 3050ti over a hp victus with a 3060 and slightly lower cost. Why? ''Build'' or ''Mux switch'' or someother dumbass reason. For fuck's sake a mux switch ain't gonna make a 3050ti faster than a 3060. And a worse build doesn't mean the laptop will die immediately. It can last a long time when you take care of it.
@@siyzerix maybe because in jarrod video, he told people that mux switch is important but he didn't talked about value vs mux
Thank you for testing it with a Linux distro, you won a subscriber
I managed to score this laptop here in Australia 🇦🇺 w/ Ryzen 5600h, RTX3050, 8GB ram, 512GB NVME, 120hz screen & $75 Dell gift voucher (Getting Ram upgrade for it) on Black Friday via eBay Dell Site for $645USD including taxes (~$580USD no taxes) for a Xmas 🎄gift. I’m stoked w/ the purchase!
Great video ! Dell was the last company I can think of competing to the legion 5 quite well imo considering the last gen model was quite bad
But the the 2021 11th gen Helios has a full 130W 3060 too so interested
Yeah I didn't see myself making a dedicated comparison video between the two before I bought it!
Love the review! I've got this G15 myself and your review is pretty accurate. It's true that it does run hot with G mode enabled so I suggest stay away from it since it only gives 3-5 fps anyway
I'm so happy with the build, looks, screen quality(the 165hz one) and performance so I highly recommend this one! (Also, it's quite cheap compared to competitors)
No g sync right?
How did you get the G mode disabled?
Shouldn't g mode have the lowest temps due to fans being at 100%? I suppose I haven't tested my temps outside of G-Mode but theyre super hot...
*the* go to channel for laptop reviews!
Okay after 3 months of use my Dell G15 has proved that it is working as good as it was. I live in Delhi where average summer temps can heat a room to 30-35C degree and the laptop still maintained temps under 95C is surprising.
By using AC in room or a cooling pad you can easily lock CPU temps under 90C.
3050?
Does it come with a mux switch
@@SpI3eR123 Maybe is BIOS update 1.2 but i use BIOS version 1.4 from Dell's website and it doesn't have mux switch.
@@raffrodog yes
@@SpI3eR123 But i never felt the need for mux switch as I can play any story based game with smooth 60fps at high settings.
i just got home with my dell g15 with a 3060, i bought it from the store without watching any reviews or doing the usual research first, so I'm doing that on it right now xD
Good review, thank you for this. I have the 3050 version with 32GB ram and 3TB of storage. Overall Im pretty happy with my machine, all together it cost me about $1000.00
Do you guys have Keyboard rollover issues? My G15 5515 does not allow pressing more than 3 keys simultaneosly 😐
Dell's G15 actually gives Lenovo's Legion 5 a good fight - detailed comparison between the two will be up in a week or two! yesssss u r the best bcz i tried to compare both side by side on different tab but lol u did't tested same games. waiting for every thing u post.
very solid tests, thx!
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Thanks for always including a Linux test section, not many reviewers do that. Does Dell include a screw for the second empty m.2 slot?
Your video is great with lots of details.
Can't beat your reviews. Only thing I wish to know, which is edge case, is whether or not any of the laptops you test have firmware that allows MSI Afterburner to adjust the frequency voltage curves. Or is that a given these days?
Normally MSI afterburner isn't restricted to do that cause it's software. For casual gaming it's the only way to tweak (+ throttle stop CPU side). Most special features are only for the "true" gaming series of the different manufacturers.
@@pascal9728, It would depend on the VBIOS & BIOS. Most normal gamers aren't undervolting so /shrug
Most models now are coming with a 165Hz screen. The 120Hz screen is the biggest problem in the laptop. If you get the 165Hz version, the only actual problem that remains and can't be fixed is the Alienware control center. It's legitimately one of the top 3 laptops of 2021 for me.
Where can i find the 165hz version?
Theres literally no difference between 120 and 165 hz
120 hz is the benchmark for gaming since 10 years.
@@OviOvi-y6d The 165Hz screen has much better latency, better brightness and color accuracy. I'm not judging it based on refresh rate alone.
The shitty screen was the main reason I shied away from the Ryzen G15. Glad I did because the Ryzen Legion 5 kicks G15 arse.
How much aud $ did you pay for the Legion 5?
@@mrbrad4637 $2099nz about 8 weeks ago. Lenovo ANZ 30% off specials.
Then your like me and just plan on playing all the fallouts on it, thanks for the review!
I have the 3060 version with a 360Hz panel. That panel; supports Advanced Optimus and GSync. I got it from Dell Outlet. VERY happy with it so far.
I'm from Brazil and mine came with X8 ram sticks and also the socket for the second SSD. So I think they're varying those things in different countries
Huge Plus that Dell has - is availability and non-scalper pricing. Recently was considering buying a gaming laptop in Canada and there is absolutely no place where you can get one for a decent price, newegg is more expensive
Canada computers & Best Buy often have sales on the 3070 ones. They were selling 5900HX + 3070 ROG Strix for C$1999 only
Yee in canadq the only good affordable ones that are in stock are the asus tuf and dell
Packing so much relevant info in short videos so consistently is very impressive, even though much of it fits a template.
For the price you pay during a sale, for the performance you get is excellent value.
Legion 5 and pro also has a lot of problems including a whine noise. Dell g15 is excellent in comparison.
Also get the 165hz option. Rgb keyboard is not game changer.
Exactly.. I got the Dell G15 Ryzen edition same specs as in the review but with the 130w vbios update.. on sale and it's amazing... The best performance for your $ anywhere and it's a solid laptop that looks nice. The 120hz screen is no issue to me and if it was I'd invest in an external monitor with all the money I saved by getting the Dell on sale
Can i please have a link to a model with 165hz screen? Been trying to look for it and the only thing i could find was one with I7-10870H instead of the amd. Any ideas if it's worth taking the i7 instead of that 165hz screen if i cant find the amd one with 165hz?
@@meiz1795 the 120hz screen isn't that bad if that's all you can get.. even an online review said although the sRGB maybe low, it's calibrated so well that it looks better out of the box than others with better specs... I wouldn't get less then an 8 core CPU
@@mrbrad4637 arent both amd and i7 8 cores? The 165hz one im looking at is actually discounted right now making it cheaper so im wondering if the amd to i7 cpu change will make much performance difference? All the benchmarks im looking at say that amd performs better, but i have no idea how big of a difference will it make in practice
@@meiz1795 I don't think the Intel come with the 130w version of the 3060 either... If I'm right that's something else to consider too..
I went for the Legion 5 3060 and love it. Previously had a Dell but they couldn’t match the 2200 NZD I paid for the Legion 5. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on what is the better machine.
I dislike Lenovo but the legion does appeal to me a lot more than dells
BTW, I would 100% upgrade the screen. In addition to the issues Jarrod brought up, the 120hz screen also uses PWM at a frequency that can cause issues. While most people associate PWM with OLED screens, cheap LCD screens can also use it, although it is preferable that if it is used for the frequency is very high. Which on this screen, it is very low (like 200hz or so). That may contribute to the perceived ghosting Jarrod talked about.
Yeah the screen in mine isn't great for sure
Your reviews are always super helpful. I actually just snagged one of these at $796.55, but it was the 3050ti+i5-10500H model. Did I make a mistake here?
Yes, the 3050 series even the ti is slow, lacks enough vram
, A 3060Max-P minimum and you need a 6 to 8 core cpu minimum and then you'll be a happy gamer for the next 3 or 4 years, especially with DLSS .. so the ryzen edition as in this video is the one to go for. As far as making a mistake getting the Dell G15, no, not at all . It's a solid laptop and the screen is fine..
@@mrbrad4637 so you the dell g15 is a good option or nah ?
@@juansebastianperez3190 there is many versions of the Dell G15, The Dell G15 5515 with the 5800H and 130w 3060 Max-P is definately worth getting for the right price (20% discount they often have) it's only negative is in some countries (i.e. mine here in Australia) Dell only offers the 120Hz screen as an option - this screen has slow response and relatively poor sRGB, no HDR although... It is almost perfectly calibrated for colour and colour temperature out of the box (it's actually the first screen that I've ever had that came perfectly calibrated out of the box) so I personally think it looks good and that makes up for some of the screens negatives.. if your country offers the 165hz screen with the Dell G15 then get it as that's an awesome screen.. if you are going to use an external monitor or good out of the box calibration is important too you, then get the Dell G15 even with the 120hz screen as it's cheaper than most of the competition, looks great (in my opinion) and in the above mention config, it's basically an Alienware without all the bling (I opened mine to install a larger SSD and replace the RAM with x8 stuff and the motherboard has the alienware logo printed on it - plus the bios and vbios updates work on both the G15 and alienware so the G15 5515 is an Alienware M15 R5 with a different screen and without the exorbitant price tag) Also the Dell G15 works flawlessly with Windows 11 - so if you plan to upgrade to Windows 11 then again get the Dell G15 .. sorry for the long post
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Love You me Videos! Great Work! It was because of your Videos and reviews I bought the Perfect Choice for Me…Legion 5 17 inch Amd Ryzen 7 5800h, 3060!!!
The 5800H and 3060 MAX-P is a match made in heaven 😍
@@mrbrad4637 Jarods Tech just did a comparison between the 2070 and 3060. The 3060 was 20% overall faster in 98 percent of test. And matched with the Ryzen 5800h and 32 gig of proper ram…it’s a killer!!
@@jedidiahsteele7847 yes I watched Jarrod's video myself.. It's amazing.. I got the Dell G15 varient myself and I love it.. so I have the 5800H and 3060 130w 😍😊👍 the best combination of hardware and performance for the $ going right now!!
@@mrbrad4637 I got the Lenovo Legion 5 17 inch upgrades the ram per his video went from 16 gig to 32 added another 1 terabyte Samsung 980 ms ssd for a total of 2 terabytes…feel like I have a Shelby Mustang GT500!!! I had a Asus Rog Strix with a gtx 1650 and a 9th gen six core i7 with and 16 gig ram, and 1.5 terabytes of space…it was decent but the Lenovo i have now is just amazing.. color accurate screen amazing cooking. Best part in bought it from Micro Center for 1350, with ram upgrades and ssd addition plus a 4 k monitor…all of that combined was around 1800!! Can’t beat it at all!!
@@jedidiahsteele7847 great choice and you do have the Shelby GT Mustang's of gaming laptops! You will be very happy with it for years to come 🙂👍.. I bought my Dell G15 as an upgrade from my ASUS TUF with a 2060rtx as it was paired with the Pathetic 3750H CPU that bottlenecked the system horrifically!! I didn't do my research when I bought that one!! Thankful I sold it and have my G15 now which is like triple the fps at the highest settings than my Asus got at the lowest!! I got mine got $1954 AUD which was the cheapest 3060 5800h Laptop here by more than $300+ and the ryzen 7 4000 and up series CPU were such a massive leap in mobile CPU technology.. desktop CPU performance in a laptop now
Excellent review， thanks！
I guess their thermal paste application has gotten a bit better since with G-Mode enabled I hit slightly higher temps on the CPU at 102℉. I really think I need to pick up the cooling pad you are using since it looks like it is super effective with this laptop.
Thanks for the video.
I bought this laptop two weeks ago and as far as I use it, I am happy for the value. I use a monitor so the screens does not bother me.
Besides when I want to improve, the change for better rams will be a good option! Thx for the tips!
I bought it exactly a week ago too and love it...
what games or maybe productivity work have you used it for so far?, you think it will last at least 4-5 years?
@@cl_0ud470 I use for work and gaming - for work just the usual Office 365 apps - mostly very large excel spreadsheets.(ofcourse it is lightning fast at running windows and office) as for gaming, I play Microsoft flight simulator 2020 - runs between 78 and 92 fps T 1080p with everything set to high end /high.. I also play resident evil village and it runs at 82 - 95 fps 1080p everything set to high with Ray tracing on medium.. I also play warzone battle Royale and it runs at 90 to 120 fps at 1080p.everything on high/ultra bar texture which I set to normal due to 6gb vram - this is also with Ray tracing on and DLSS turned off!!! With the mux switch and the 130w vbios update it runs like a 90w 3070 and if you swap out the ram for x8 stuff that's another 10+ fps so it actually beats some 3070s in benchmarks. I am confident it will last 4 / 5 years easily as it's build very solid.. the only negatives are the 120hz screen people say isn't that great, but I have no issue with it and find it perfectly fine for what it is and the thermals on the CPU get to to 99 degrees on heavy load - but they are designed to run that hot as I've done plenty of research on the matter.. I feel it's the best value gaming laptop on the market right now and in actually prefer it over even the more expensive ones as I need a numpad and prefer it's design and colour over the ones with flashing lights everywhere.
@@mrbrad4637 thanks for the reply. I'm mostly concerned about the performance which seems great, I'm mostly going to be using it for coding and streaming esport titles, monitor isn't really a problem as I'm planning to buy an external monitor anyway. How much did you get it for btw?, in my country it's about $980 (converted) 1660ti, rx5600m alternatives are like $250++ more money which is $50 away from a 2060.
@@cl_0ud470 No worries.. it's is a phenomenal system - I've been using computers since the commodore 64 in the late 80s and this is my 4th gaming laptop(I've owned alienware, Asus ROG and Asus tuf previously) and the dell G15 is by far my favourite out of all the PC's and laptops over the years.. I purchased it to upgrade from my ASUS TUF which had a pathetic 3750h CPU that bottlenecked the 2060rtx significantly.. My G15 has the 5800H and 3060rtx 130w I paid $1954 AUD for it direct off Dell when they had 15% off.. which is a basically the cheapest 3060 laptop on the market in Australia yet it certainly doesn't look, feel or perform like a budget system.. I personally wouldn't get less than the 3060 if you plan to keep it for 5 years as it's the best performance for the $ right now and with DLSS it should remain able to play AAA titles well into the future.. I also purchased the alienware 610m wireless mouse, the alienware 510h 7.1 surround headset and the dell lite gaming backpack for it and highly recommend all those aswell - dell had discounts on everything so I got all of that including the laptop for less than $2200 aud
The cooling capacity is pretty bad for something over an inch thick and 2.6kg
Standard Dell stuff based on the last few years of testing them I guess
It weighs more than a Legion 5 while having worse cooling
And looking much worse.
@@dustojnikhummer to be fair it feels more solid too, but I'm spoiling the upcoming comparison 😅
@@dustojnikhummer I personally love the look of the G15...
With the latest bios update the cooling is improved.. I've never seen it hit 100 degrees.. it stays in the 80s to very low 90s gaming.. and under heavy load 95 is the highest it reaches now.. not the 100.5 as seen in the review... Also my idle temps hover around the 40s 50s now too. *edit warzone gets the cpu up to 99 degrees, though with a cooling pad I've gotten it down to 92*
I also bought G15 with RTX 3050(95W)+ Ryzen 5 5600H and I noticed that the idle temps were also very high compared to other gaming laptops. Idk what's with it's thermal system but it's not an issue coz as temps rises the fans cools the temp.
Overall performance wise the laptop is a beast even with RTX 3050.
I'm currently thinking to buy the one with the Ryzen 7 5800h and RTX 3050 Ti but do happen to know what is the tgp of that one?
@@MrMalastoufa go for ryzen 7 5800h it has best performance mine ryzen 5 5600h hangs a lot and runs very slow....
@@bharadwajroyal9507 what?
How old is your laptop?
Añd your room temperature?
@@raffrodog 7 months above bro i will in Andhra Pradesh in my City temp is 30-45c in summer in other times it is 28-35c bro...
I have exact same laptop with 165hz screen and It’s very powerfully. Cons are: the laptop is very heavy and big.
I disagree completely. Given it's powerful cpu and full power 3060 after the latest VBIOS, I'd say it's way smaller than I expect for a "gaming" laptop.
Maybe people have different expectations, but I'm pretty pleased with what the nearly cheapest priced 3060 laptop gets you in terms of performance and weight.
@@TheThatsnasty Agreed, Its been four month since I bought Dell G15 RTX 3060, and it is very powerful, I can play any games in ultra setting without problem. So design doesn't bother me anymore :)
@@gflashg how much temperature increase in performance mode running GTA v and red dead redemption 2? Also fps in cool, Optimal and performance mode.
@@fernandooxoby2242 you can check my channel “GflashG” currently I’m testing Dell G15 rtx 3060 with Ryzen 7.
Hey Jarrod can you do a video on rtx 3050ti vs rtx 2060?
Great video btw keep up the good work.
Thanks
Your title sums up my opinions on this model lol.
Muy buen video. Me gustaría que tuvieras un canal en español 😞 o almenos subtítulos en español ya que das informaciónes muy interesantes y sería agradable para algunos que podamos escucharla o verla en español. Good video ✨👌🙏
Jarrod please make a back to school laptop comparison review.
I decided not to because I focus on gaming laptops which aren't really a good fit.
Hey man, I noticed in your previous reviews, namely of Lenovo Legion and Slim 7 you mentioned the sharp front edge. You're one of the rare reviewers to mention that, I have Legion 5 and that edge is driving me crazy. I noticed this one also has a seemgly sharp edge, so it would be good if you could mention all models that have such issues. Second, I know this is a stretch but it would make a big difference to have this data when you show dimensions: the distance from the front edge to the bottom of the bottom-most row of keys. I was doing some research and found that some 14" have a very large distance in this regard which makes them unsuitable for use in a reclined position.
The latest VBIOS increases the max wattage to 130W in G mode. G mode off is still 115W. Dynamic boost seems to only be in effect on G mode.
Like the design but the compromises are lot compared to the price.
I wish this video was out before i bought a gaming laptop yesterday
Hello Jarrod,Remember me?I won your motospeed ck 108 mechanical keyboard giveaway around 3 years ago.Ty and cheers mate.
great review thank you!
I have bought it recently, one thing I would add is that the keyboard is not anti-ghosting, as I was playing GTA online and tried to control my scramjet mid air, I found that you cannot simultaneously press WSD or WSA at the same time, that's a inconvenience for me along with all other things this laptop has, I'm definitely not gonna keep it for long
I wish you had also mentioned that if you don’t opt for 2 nvmes the second nvme slot doesn’t come with a bracket to mount it. So now I’m stuck from ordering from AliExpress or scavenging through my local market if anyone even knows what I’m talking about.
Love from Pakistan
There is another review on this model by a UK fellow on RUclips and he gives a link for a cheap bracket that suits and shows installation with said bracket...
X8MY9 if you didn't find it yet.
The way you review things is just wow
Nice video , i was thinking about getting this pc , but after owning a g3 for almost two years worry about the overheat and thermal throttling that comes with dell Laptops ...
It legitimately looks like the Alienware m15 r4… just different colors and slightly different patterns and I/O placement
At least the RAM isn't soldered though...
Thanks for the review! I've been waiting for it for months now! Any plans on a review for the Lenovo Legion 5 3070 variant VS the PRO? Theres not much information for it around
Note: I have the 165 hz one and get less than 4- 5 hour battery life even when I turn refresh rate to 60..... Its a problem multiple people have mentioned.
make sure that AMD software is closed in task manager
battery saver on, g mode off, change refresh rate to 60 hz, advanced optimus on
not worth it to me but it can be done
hey, I got mine yesterday and have done all I can to fix the battery but it's not doing much. did you find something in the end?
@@ethanwebb716 I didn't:( but I never called support
i rarely comment in youtube. only this time . i saw a youtuber who deserves it
G15 for sure. Dell qc is decent in most cases and their maintenance service is better (depending on your location).
If you can get the G15 with a discount or free upgrade of the aftersale warranty, it is a good deal for a mid range 3060 laptop.
Love the review, thank you very much for all that testing. Any suggestion on 1Rx8 memory upgrade?
Damn that screen though... Yet to see any 1080p 120Hz screen with good response times
It cant be THAT much more expensive to go with a better 144hz panel...
ripperoni
Isn't there's ghosting with 120 Hz model ..
Nice work bro can you compare Desktop RTX 3070 VS legion 5 pro RTX 3070
This one seems to interesting comparison
Yes, just finished the desktop 3070 testing today.
Yess this would be interesting to know the performance difference
@@JarrodsTech 😇
@@JarrodsTech don't forget to compare new test and test pc 3060 vs legion 5 pro 3060
I am on a dilemma. I have my eyes set on buying this dell model with rtx 3050 for about $990, but then I saw a dell g5 with r5 4600h and rx5600m for about $150 more, and some 1660ti laptops with the same chip for $200-250 more. Is the performance difference worth the extra money?, I'm fine with playing on medium setting and most of my games are esports
This has the best battery though
microcenter has lenovo legions 5 in stock for $1299 with twice the storage and a better 165hz screen.
You should review the legion slim 7
For real
For real
Not sold in my country.
56% sRGB is horrendous. I bought an ASUS with 60% (after reading a review where it had a 97% sRGB screen). It looked like visual puke even in games. Can't believe they are still making screens that look this terrible.
Yeah one of the lowest I've measured in some time 🥲
Does it really make that much of a difference for general use and not photography etc? As my Dell G15 has the 120hz screen and it looks fine to me.. colour wise it's on the warmer end and looks very similar to the cinema mode my 4k HDR TV has ... It does not look bad at all too me. I'm by no means an expert though
@@mrbrad4637 Have used the 62% panda panel. The colors especially the vivid colors are washed out when playing games. I noticed the difference when I connected the TV. Without a comparison one wouldn't notice. But once you compare, there's no going back.
@@SF-li9kh Thanks for the info.. I was tossing up spending $365 (Aussie $$) more for the 👽 alienware r5 as it has all the same internals basically but with the 165hz screen but realised I need a numpad and at 40 I prefer the more subtle looks of the G series and decided if I'm not happy with the screen at worst it's good enough for gaming on the go and I can buy a decent external gaming monitor with the cash I saved going the G15 over the R5... I am more than happy with it for what it is and will likely get a HDR 1080p gaming monitor down the track
Yeah 56% sRGB is like 10% of Rec.2020 which is the modern standard for HDR measurement. Imagine being able to see only 10% of colors the cinematographers wanted you to see. (not that movies and games are mastered in Rec2020 but they will be soon enough)
Impressive as usual! But next time, do you think you could review the intel version of the G15? I would love to know how it stacks up against the AMD version!!!
Usually only esport titles and low settings have an advantage with Intel. After watching multiple videos accross RUclips, this is what I noticed
Ye Jarrod should do a review of the intel version G15.
@@SF-li9kh I have the intel version, I play mmos and you should go for the intel version 10000% if you do.
The intel one is just superior period. I play world of warcraft and the ryzen one would be 10-30fps slower.
ANd I also play emulators.
i have Dell laptop, using it now, and from what i can gather Dell laptops always run hot, and I have to spent a lot, for cooling, like replacing thermal paste (using Noctua, its better now) and thermal pad (Thermalright), and have so many issues. Im not sure if Dell has improved now or not but gudging from this video, yeah it still hot. Now im looking towards Legion, saving money now to buy one hopefully.
Tip/correction: If you press Fn + F5 it changes the keyboard backlight from dim to bright to off and it changes this setting in the bios automatically and can be done anytime..
Great review by the way! I own and love this machine and am glad to know that it's a decent performer and that I can boost things even more with a ram upgrade and a cooling pad.. I think I'll buy the cooling pad in your link as I was impresed it made that much of a difference.
** Edit sorry!! I didn't watch the Linux part **
I mentioned 2 levels of brightness and that it worked in Linux :) thanks!
@@JarrodsTech sorry!! I skipped past the Linux bit!!!
@@JarrodsTechmy screen brightness shortcuts don't work in windows 10 either (just watched the Linux part).. I reformatted / wiped windows and they don't work even from the factory image which is strange..
I paid 1399 cad for mine with the better screen and the rgb keyboard. For that price it's freaking amazing.
Edit. So I played around with the mux switch. And every game I tested saw 20% improvements when optimus was disabled!! Which is amazing!! But I noticed one caveat. I lost freesync. Meaning most of the games also started to stutter. Anyone else have this issue? Or am I crazy? I didn't super notice it in some games. But games like control everytime I used an ability the game would stutter. So idk about everyone else. But I'm keeping optimus on so I can keep freesync . Yeah I loose frames, but I prefer my games to not constantly stutter.
Edit for anyone worried about heat, get the ryzen controller. I dropped the temp to 87 celsius on the cpu with zero performance drop
I just bought the laptop with the worse screen for $1499 cad.
If you don't mind, for the future where did you find said deal? Was it open box, if so what store/website.
Ty for any info.
@@TheMaleAmouranth From dell, it was on sale!
12:29 this alone shows how incompetent Dell is in terms of thermal control. Random power limits, extremely low performace cooling solutions that makes the system run on thermal limits and for CPU beyond 97°C and so on. It's been like that for years and they've not changed anything.
Honestly, just go for the HP, Acer or MSI options for any kind of gaming computer, or anything else really.
I've owned DELL, Acer Helios 300 and HP laptops so far and DELL is incompetent beyond belief in same spec machines. 130W 3060+ 8 core CPU Dell machine is worse than 6 core+ 100W GPU HP, which isn't even close to thermal throttling in games (~70-75°C GPU, 85°C CPU). I'm not even considering better chassis (base chassis, not screen; HP has wobbly screen), better screen color range and better, exremely responsive and buttery smooth 144Hz display. Although not comparable, it can last up to 10 hours on battery too. My Helios is even better in terms of thermals (80°C average CPU, in silent mode) and has a smooth and resposive 120Hz screen compared to Dell. Battery life could've been better though but not a lot of people buy gaming laptops for battery life I believe. In fact, I'm almost 90% sure that all the thermal and power limitations on Dell is the only reason it can reach such battery life, which is a bit ironic.
Don't do the same mistake as I did, do not buy Dell, ever. You'll only be dissapointed and sad with it until you get something better.
I really wish that there would be a laptop without a track pad and without rgb for gaming and have amazing specs and relatively cheap
No trackpad on ur laptop?
i love the rtx 3050 ti it plays the games i play very well 120 hz i am more then satisfied i use my 120 hz tv as a monitor very satisfied
Hi Jarrod, great review, when are you planning to review 2022 DELL G15 5520?
I think you didn´t mention that it comes with an additional slot for another m.2 SSD, which is a kinda cool feature in my opinion.
My understanding from reading in forums is that Dell does not include the ssd mounting bracket though for the extra slot. The Dell part number is PXNWV and costs Dell just a few cents. It is tiny. I think you can buy them on Amazon and ebay though for a few dollars. Dell is just stingy for not including it. :-(
Can you please review the legion slim 7!!??!?
That's what I'm saying
For real
Not sold in my country.
Nice video 👏
Its better to use NBFC with manually setting and changing power profiles. Saves around 500mb ram and the annoying load time.
RAM and screen suppliers seems to vary between region, where i live rtx 3060 versions are always bundled with 165hz, It is shipped with x8 memory manufatured locally (as shown by the stickers) and It comes with the adapter to install 2280 SSDs already inside the laptop.
Man best review ever
Looking forward to a HP Victus review if possible great vid as usual, another laptop I can strike off my option list
Hey Jarrod, I had a quick question that is G-SYNC important and does it matter for a gaming laptop. If yes could you make a quick 3 minute video explaining it.
Thanks
Much love from India
It isn't important. Yes it is useful. Yes buy a Legion 5.
@@dustojnikhummer Idk man. I'm think of buying a blade 14
@@rohanshdattani7184 Don't. Unless you want a laptop that will die in 16 months.
i just bought the 5511 version with i7-11800H and 165Hz display after watching all of your reviews, thanks fo the help, i hope the better display solves the screen response problem :) btw do you recommend the cooling pad you use ?
Check out the IETS GT500 cooling pad. What are your temperatures lookin like? Mine are appauling....
Not yet at the temp data, but considering it's Dell I expect the signature 100°C that all their laptop get when doing anything other than idle.