My mother in her 60's never saw a roof job either, but from her driveway on the ground saw the worst job ever on her rof, she knows nothing about a roof it was that bad. shingles were run crooked, pipes werent cleaned and the pipe jacks the installed were letting water in. They shingled over a 24 inch hole, yes they shingled over a hole. They didnd remove the existing nails and there were obvious high and low spots. and the list goes on. I should post it on youtube. The company was SHELTERPRO roofing in san antonio Texas. I refused payment, After finding 4 substantial gross indefensible breaches in the contract, they wanted to do minor cosmetic fixes and get paid. nope not happening. So i called another rofing company RADIANT roofing, explained the issue and they did the job, fully documented more issues upon take up, found more decking needing replaced,. 14 4x8 sheets, which i verified, 10 of them i requested. Its not perfect, but its as perfect as you can do on a 50 year old house. After a year and some ugly storms its holding up just fine. This job in the video is salvagable at least, a few guys for a few hours.
I'm not a professional roofer, but I've done my fair share of roofing with relatives who are pros and on my own buildings. "BAD ROOFING JOB" doesn't even begin to describe just how bad. I could spot most of the problems easily --- and I had cataract surgery a week ago, so only one good eye.
I had a guy do my roof a few years ago. I ran up there as soon as he left and set up with the ladder and did an inspection with a friend. That guy surpassed my expectations, He put flashing where I didn’t think about putting it and saw his solutions and repairs and realized this guy was two steps of me. Job was worth every dollar. I even recommended him to other friends.
Guy who did mine 2015, asked if I felt safe coming up to inspect. I said sure. I had been up there plenty of times cleaning the gutters. He showed me everything, even stuff he had to repair from the last roofing job in the 90's. He even replaced a section of wood that had some water damage, replaced my turbine vents & placed an extra vapor barrier over the entire roof. He was a good dude and told me it wasn't worth losing your reputation to save time or a few bucks. ~ Now I tell everyone I know that needs roofing done, about him. JZ Roofing in Arkansas.
@@suzukisentinel9570 he's right, who's money would be saved anyways? If you cut corners and take short cuts, you end up costing the customer more money when they have someone else fix it.
The architect is terrible, the framers who left off the crickets are terrible, the roofers who just rolled with it and added to this sad mess are terrible. The GC who let this happen on his watch is terrible. Just another example of people self medicating at work from what I see.
@@dot_dot_pwn2650 I agree, what a nightmare!!! My roof on my bungalow is simple, 4 slopes, that's it. I'm a 63 year old woman but I get up there and inspect it myself! I had it redone in 2013, because of the careful research I did before chosing products and companies, my roof looks brand new still.😁
emoAnarchist In what way was Pluto: comment supposed to be funny. You being emo is funny seeing how we're way past the 2000's but his comment had no pun what so ever. I'm pretty sure he was wasn't joking. It rains like twice a year in Cali hence the forest fire.
Good thing the payment hadn’t been completed yet! That’s why you have an inspector come out before you pay! I just had my roof done! Definitely going to have it inspected just in case!
@@richardjoseph8683 you mean u.s companies hiring illegal immigrants? Looks like you should shame u.s companies like trump golf courses and hotels to stop hiring illegals. Have some accountability
Who ever hires them should have their balls fined off including Trump!. If you run a legitimate construction business like I do you cannot compete with the scumbags who hire illegals for $10.00 an hour cash & have no insurance or pay taxes on their employees. Sounds like you might be one of those stand up citizen's who would hire illegals or possibly still living in mom & dad's basement!
Having roofed my own house and worrying that being a 16th of an inch off on my overlap every now and again was sloppy. I now feel a hell of a lot better.
I worked in roofing for 10 years. From 15-25. Even at 15 i would be hugely embarrassed to put out this level of garbage work. Scam artists are everywhere
When I was a kid my parents helped out a local kid and gave him odd jobs. When they built a shed they got him to do it and he nailed those soft-ish roof tiles (shingles? I don't know the English terminology, but they look like in the video) to the roof, meaning it leaked like hell. He had never seen that kind of roofing material before. He's like 40-45 now and is a professional and has done a lot of goodwill for our family because my parents were good to him when he was a kid.
Looks like a pretty complicated roofing job. Actually, the fact that it only cost $20,000 would have been my first clue that it was going to be a hack job.
I feel like that’s a very difficult roof and an equally difficult shingle to work with but I feel like a first time DIYer would have done better than that shit right there lol
yeah you know whoever did this did not care at all it would leak liike a sieve i did my own roof and looked for the best possible materials and techniques never had any roof leaks in 20 years still looks good
We had someone recommend to us replacing our tile roof with asphalt shingle. Yeah sure! Let me take off my 100-year roof for a 20-year roof. That makes a lot of sense...
Depends on how many years and what current condition your "100 year" tile roof is in. There are plenty of benefits to a cheaper 20 year single roof, especially in areas of Cali that rarely ever get rain.
MarkM5 I had something like that happen, I got a metal roof, was installed 10 years ago, should last a lifetime. I had someone out to do new gutters, they recommended I get a new roof because it is showing some age. It still looks the same as when it was put on. They even took there time to come up with a price, even wanting an extra grand for disposal of the old.
The key to any good roof is not always the product but the installer and another Super key thing is to keep people off the roof that is a number one no no in the roofing industry tiles are expensive to replace and hard to find
HEAV¥HAND Agreed. No attempt to stagger the sawteeth, even.Blatantly obvious there are problems before the inspector even started pointing things out.. Roofing is one of those things where anyone can do a small, simple project, but you need an expert to deal with the complex stuff, or the large projects. The homeowner wisely called in apparent experts.. it's just that the 'experts' sucked ass and did not live up to the reputation preceding them. When my un-handyman can't-be-arsed lazy ass looks at work done and can say 'they did a horrible job, I can and have done better', there's a serious problem.
@@tashkiira7838 A waste of money and time just because he went with the cheapest one. Nothing wise about the homeowner at all since he should have gotten an expert in to do it in the first place instead of being cheap. You get what you pay for after all.
Amateur night at the roofing company. It's hard to find good workers. The crew was probably about 10 guys who have never considered reading a pack of shingles. The supervisor was nowhere near the roof. I've heard it all... It boils down to the customers who wouldn't buy a used Yugo or Chevette to drive their kids and pocket dog to the soccer field... They get massive loans for their BMWs and their Tahoe and their Lexus and that water ski boat... but they price shop roofs and get stingy, claim that the insurance company won't give them but a tiny bit of the price quoted.
You won't be waiting for aliens too long my friend they're all around the Sun. But FYI aliens are fallen angels they're not from this Dimension or Planet there for their alien by definition. And FYI we live on a flat Earth. Your comment is so true
@@jfromtheburgh5643there's too many factors to say anything about what a square goes for. Flat roof, metal, tile, slate ( which Believe you and me, is all over houses in NYC). That steepness, the quality of those shingles. He paid for a $25,000 job and that's what he got. He didn't like the sound of say $35,000. Thankfully they didn't have any flashing to do around a chimney and I'll leave it at that
They needed a progress inspection. Most likely the roofer will walk from the final payment. The cost to repair this roof will probably be greater than the final payment.
@@kikook222 Yea I'd say that final payment did not go through. If he didn't sue he brought out another company and vetted their credential more thoroughly. If I was in that house I would just move though what a terrible roof design.
The dude who did that has to pay whatever the cost of a new roof is. Done by professionals. I'm guessing about $30,000-$40,000. The law also says he pays whatever he charged them. $20,000. So $50,000. He effed up in a large fashion. Unless he skipped the country w his 10 gs. I just did a screw up the court deemed a screw up. Customer sued. Won. I came in and did it. He paid. Then paid the customer the original $10,000 he swindled em out of. So it cost him $21,000. By court order.
@@RyanGallagher42000 I'm a single woman with a house. I needed a new roof. Mine is a simple, 4 slope roof thankfully. I did research for weeks, got familiar with how a roof is built, I researched options, such as metal vs shingles, researched products from the underlay to flashing to shingles etc. I researched companies, went through their BBB ratings, asked around, asked questions, even drove around looking at roofs, I looked at reviews, looked at how long they'd been in business, checked for lawsuits etc. I had 4 estimates done. I also asked for addresses where the companies had worked and drove by to see what their work looked like. I finally made my choices. This was in 2013. The company did a stellar job!!! I am so happy with their work, how it looks, everything. I chose the best quality products I could afford. My roof still looks brand new and I live on Canada's West Coast where we get extremes in weather, temperature, precipitation etc. I go up there and inspect it myself. The slopes are gentle, it's pretty safe. Anyways , research is the best thing we can do to protect ourselves!!! Cheers!
No. Not at all. Must of the run work is fine. That's most of the roof. All of the flashing, trim, eaves and cap have to be ripped and replaced. And find out what the f*** is under the shingles in that one area. Is horrible work. Horrible roof/framing layout. Good roofing company could fix it in a day.
davidwvolz yup, people talk shit like it's the companies fault. $20g's is about right for such an abstract design. No one else would probably do it for remotely close to $20g which is why they bought these shady guys. Lesson learned.
davidwvolz im in the tree cutting business and other things and i am really good at knowing what a job is worth so when they tell me that they find a cheaper bid i just wish them luck.
After agreeing to get paid $20,000 for a new roof I can’t believe the roofers did such a crappy job. My roofers replaced all the exhaust vents with new Broans, lead boots on drain vents, all new chimney flashing, properly staggered the shingles. I filmed, climbed ladders to inspect the work. If you don’t know how it should be done, pay someone to verify the work. 12 grand for 40 squares. Estimated 30 grand for All metal. 50 grand for All aluminum. Metal was 1/2 the weight of architectural shingles. Aluminum was 1/2 the weight of metal. If I were rich I would have loved the aluminum roof. Never rusts or leaks. Reflects heat in our hot TX summers.
When I had my roof installed the company lead took me around up top during and after the job was complete. He also sent pictures throughout the day to show progress.
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To be fair it's 20k with martial which could have been around 10k on it's own, mattering how much squares the roof is. That would leave 10k in labor for tear off and hit on (excluding waste costs). Most likely what happened is that the owner wanted to pay less than what the job was worth and got a sloppy but cheaper job done. Not excusing their mistakes, but it's disingenuous to say the roofers made 20k off of this roof.
daaaaaaaamn. had mine done last year and got up there to check on it immediately after they finished. fortunately i had a team that knew what they were doing
In San Antonio TX don't hire. Nicholas George Mora, 37 years old, Steadfast Roofing and Contractors. Horrible work plus it seemed like he was asking for money every time he saw me. I told him several times he wouldn't get a penny more til the job was done. They did a half ass job. When we did the walk through, after he claimed job was done, he tried talking his way out of all sorts of issues. On top of that his employees came to try and collect saying he had not paid them.
electricalron. Do this job was done by illegals? Or was dona by some crack heads? I think is what all rich people get to have some expensive jobs done wit little bit of money cuz yall want those illegal aliens that you call. Work almost for free. Why you don't hire your own people to do your jobs and stop bitching. But I know why y'all don't do that cuz your people will make your eyes come out of your head with their prices. When really who do the job is the illegal aliens. Cuz the company can be owned by your people but the employees are those aliens. Please people don't be stupid. Commenting some racist Shit. Y'all know all those aliens are here to help feed your family. And please stop saying They come to stole your jobs. Cuz white people want to live with what your government give you
I woke up and think I can be the best roofer......for my own roof.....But it is just a square house with not too steep of a slope. I won't be messing up the pattern, it's like the guy that did the roof in the video didn't bother to watch any youtube videos, including one from the manufacturer instructing how to start each new row of shingles. Though, I would like to know what are some other common rookie mistakes...
@@ldlink3935 using roofing nailer guns instead of hand nailing is one. Running the felt over the top of the roof to the other side or starting the felt at the top and working downwards is another. Not correctly weaving corners if there areas the roof needs to be weaved such as a roof that juts out from the main roof. Not properly flashing all areas including all outer edges of the roof "don't use the old flashing" oh, and tearing off more than you can get dried in before you quit for the day, even if the weather forecast isn't calling for rain for days or weeks when you're doing roofing ALWAYS assume it's going to down pour all night into the next day.
@@danielsmit11 Thanks, this is helpful. I must admit, the hand nailing does not excite me, but for my roof with decking from 1948 (boards with large gaps) it seems the prudent thing to do to avoid "air nailing" is to use a hammer. Funny thing is, if neighbors see me using a hammer to do my roof they will assume I cheaped out when the reality is I'd just be trying to do the job right, properly or cautiously. such is life.
I’ve been a roofer and general contractor for a few years now, and um. Well I never realized before how good my boss is at construction. The mistakes that some people actually make, either uninformed or laziness, it’s revolting. So blessed that I was taught right!
No wonder it's terrible, $20k bid for such a chopped up high squareage complicated roof using a high grade specialty shingle.... A professional company would have been $50k to do that right, including all the proper new flashing pans under the siding. Sometimes homeowners bring this silly stuff upon themselves when they go with a ridiculously low bid. The materials alone on that would be $15k.
50K for a roof like that with shitty shingle that last so few years ? US is a scam that should be the price for slate lasting 100years instead of that shit ecological nightmare that last 25 years.
You are preaching to the choir Not much you can do with limited funds We never hear stories about how the guy that owns that house is a fucking asshole and that's why such a gigantic roof
Reminds me of my Dad, who is an electrician, who inspected this multi-million dollar house's wiring. Turns out the wiring job was done so bad, he has no idea how they would've got away with it. Almost every outlet box only had the wires cut to the boxes, not connected, most of the light switches didn't work, or turned on other things (he said the porch light turned on the upstairs bathroom light) and the junction box literally exploded when they gave it power. He had to "swiss-cheese" the entire house which was all brand new and redo the entire wiring. It's amazing the lengths people will do for short-cuts.
oh my god reminds me of one time me having to troubleshoot some one elses job in the same company I'm in switches didn't work the travelers were messed up the motion sensors did not work all the low volt was goofed oh lord i mean how do you mess up 3 ways
Ghost1170, sure enough, not just in America. But in US at least you can leave a bad review in internet. In some other sick countries you can face court charges for that (called disparagement) and so there are no bad reviews, as everyone is afraid to write the truth. And guess what? There are also no tradesmen who is able to do the job properly.
@@EdisonChar Right, maybe it's differnent in other parts of the country, but around here you can buy an entire real decent house for 100k, there is NO way on this earth anyone would pay even 20K for an asphalt roof, that didn't have new decking installed. That's ridiculous.
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I don't understand, the guy behind the camera is paid to do an assessment, not fix the problems. So he is not wasting his time, and this whole video was spotlighting how such a service is not a waste of money. And i think he could fix the roof, it would probably have to be done from scratch though.
It is not a waste of money. Unless your willing to scale that roof yourself (being the homeowner) and know what your looking for, $189 is a drop in the bucket for almost any roof inspection. Yes it would have to be torn off and re-done. Better to pay that price and be able to sue the contractor that fucked you, instead of eating that $20,000 loss and having to pay the price again in two years when he has water pouring in or rotting away his obviously very expensive house. The homeowner should have done a little more research about the company they hired, at least they had the right idea in hiring an inspector.
As someone whose been taken by a contractor, I really feel this persons pain. You put your trust in people, and they take advantage of you, and rip you off. There are so many people out there who do this intentionally to people. Even if you do your due diligence, people will find a way to take advantage. I hope this person was able to recover some of his money.
@@walterbrunswick yeah 20,000 dollars for that roof is actually very cheap. A real roofer would have charged twice that. 20k would barely cover the cost of those shingles alone.
With a house designed that shitty i dont feel for the home owner:D expecting to get a custom job like that for 20k is stupid but what do you expect from snobbish cheepskates and then they cry and probably run to a lawyer
Although sometimes it is just lack of skill and knowledge. Construction crews are a fast turnover trade. People don't want to destroy their body's any more for nearly making a living and no 40k, health insurance or any benefits. This one though is just insane though. Roofing is pretty much the easiest trade next to flooring so this says they didn't care at all.
I worked on a roof once that had 8 LAYERS OF SHINGLES on it. Every time the old homeowners needed to re-shingle their roof, they would just leave the old layer on and put new shingles on top of it. Scraping 8 layers of rotting melted slop off that roof was probably my least favorite work experience.
Oh hell. As someone typically put on the tear off/clean up side of the job, I could feel the kind of growing dread I would experience when I learned there were 8 times as much material to clear, and much of it is rotted to hell and back.
...probably for both roofing contractor and for architect. And in that market, paying for the best would probably only shave a fraction of a percentage point off the profit from selling the house.
> The roofer that laid that down should be in jail If you feel that strongly about a person-doing-roofing, please tell me how you feel about the 2022 POTUS, congress, etc.
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I've been a roofer for 16 years now here in Middle TN and I usually get the call to come in and fix another companies mistakes from real bad workmanship, and alot of them are from the bigger companies hiring bad worker and not training them properly, but that roof you walked was absolutely horrible!!
@@ericpeterman9332 my 35×15 porch is low pitch and they advised me to use shingles. I was wondering if I coated roof with the rubber of tar products would that stop the leaking where water pools up. Thanks
@@cjdunn5113 since your porch roof is a low slope they should have told you to use either metal roof or EPDM or Tpo. Depending how low of a slope it is if they would have used ice+water underlayment and ran your shingle courses may 1 inch shorter you would have never had any leaking starting. I wouldn't recommend putting any silicone roof coating on the leaking areas, but using tar on those spots might help for a little bit, but with still end up leaking again as soon as it expands and contracts by fall or winter. If you do decide to use tar make sure you use the fiber mesh with the tar and do a couple coats. I know you're wanting to save on spending anymore labor cost since you've already spent a good amount on your roof, but if you're anywhere near the Rutherford county area I'd have no problem stoping by and taking a look at it for you if you're not able to stop the leaks.
@@ericpeterman9332 wow I actually live in Rockvale Eagleville area. Yeah they roofed whole house but the porch is the problem. The use ice and water but it just seems to be slightly ponding in some areas and running behind shingles. Thanks for your advice brother
Before I developed epilepsy I used to inspect buildings. This is nothing new, or ground breaking. I've seen countless violations that you'd really have to try to fuck up. Reverse joist hangers, poor flashing jobs, cracked fittings exposed to the elements, etc. My personal favorite was a bucket in a house, that workers shit in.
Love that you are doing an awesome honest job man! We need more people like you in this business! Just got my roof done and I know nothing about roofs and I already have similar defects!.
That's why I never use online reviews for a decison, anyone can create a fake account within seconds and post a great review and do it over and over. I trust and rely on word of mouth and will go the extra mile as to have them show me finished work on similar homes.
Pause at 6:36 if you look at the gutter, it looks like they even cut the shingles flush with the roofline rather then having a bit of overhanging shingles drooping down into the gutters which means that if there's any water running off the roof it's going to run between the facia board and the gutter and rot it out. We're currently redoing the aged roof on our house and the prior owners about 20-25 years ago redid the roof, they cut the overhanging shingles flush with the roof line and didn't leave any overhang. We're now having to replace all the facia boards on a 2500sqft house that has multiple varying layers of roof.
I called these, Architect's wet-dreams. It really doesn't matter how retarded the design is, as a roofer, it's your responsibility to make it work. I shingled for a decade, I can honestly say that I can shingle anything on earth, no matter how retarded it is. That being said, the more retarded the roof, the more times I'm going to double my estimate.
Your wrong.... sssuurree with existing cladding it would be a nightmare, but if you flash it properly shouldnt be a problem.... mind you I don't like the type of shingles used either.
Yeah, I worked on a house once where three different roof sections came together and basically formed a triangular well. There was a drain at the bottom, but of course it was pretty much always clogged with leaves and debris. When we first looked at it there was 8" of standing water in there just waiting to find its way in - imagine what happened during a freeze/thaw cycle.
Most architects have never been on a roof. They sit in posh air conditioned offices and play with a computer and design silly shit that is pleasing to the eye and isn't remotely functional. My local community college was designed by Arizona architects and couldn't stand the first snow then rain cycle of a midwestern spring. There were no eaves or overhangs of any kind and the water ran off the roof, down the walls and thru the backsides of the windows and onto the floors. The band aid was to install hundred of thousands of dollars worth of gutters.
OMG! Horrible! SO important to have your roof installation inspected before you pay out! ALWAYS use a roofer with YEARS of experience, great referrals and customer feedback. Great video!
..."a pretty impressive amount of shortcuts"...classic Good job by the homeowner for getting the second opinion...if you don't know, ask someone who does.
Might have been the same roofers that did my grandparents house. Granted it was 10 years ago, it was a bad job that allowed leaks at all entry points on roof: chimney, stack, vents, and even some nail holes. It also took a long time for us to find out about the leaks in the attic because the insulation was catching it all. Of course by that time, the roofing company had gone bankrupt. Also because the roofers didn't allow for the proper amount of over hang, rain water wicked in under the roofing and rain down inside walls. This was all unknowingly to us until years later when we ended up with termites in the walls due to all the moisture. I'm now getting ready to have the roof redone. I've done a lot of research and got recommendations. While it's a $7000 job, small in comparison to this video, it crunched our savings, I'm going to look into a roofing inspector as well, it's our home.
Worked for my brother building houses during the 70's-80's and we witnessed plenty of shoddy work from our fellow contractors. Can only imagine with the quality of work and work ethic going down all the time what it would be like to purchase a new house now-a-days?
The quality of this work reminds me an awful lot of the guy my dad kept hiring for all of his projects. He hired people for his work crew that had zero experience, and it was blazingly apparent in everything they touched.
Problem is most "Roof inspectors" don't know any more about roofs than your average "House Inspector." I hired a "Roof Inspector" with a certification and he missed EVERYTHING. Cost me $150 and after he took my money he didn't even give me a written report. No report at all.
UNBELIEVABLE...!!! Not that the job has to be RE-DONE BUT, that the owner would go with such a low-ball price!!! He lives in Cota de Caza for Christ's Sake! Those are Million Dollar Homes!!! HELL, it would cost $10,000 "just" to remove the old tile roof including dumping charges...alone!!! Personally, it's gonna' cost twice that to "fix" it as I'm sure any existing damage has not been corrected.
You're right! And, that is what I told him. I can;t fix this. He has to start over. Thank you for taking the time to check out our channel. I hope your find it worth your time. Please subscribe to see more videos. We fix a lot fo bad roofs and you will see some bad work that will blow your mind coming up soon!
Thanks that answers my question because I was just sitting here wondering where would you start because I would never let the ones that did that back on my roof even to try and fix it after that.
its a terrible roofing job for sure, but also a terrible roof design! wtf is that section at 3:13, the archetect designed part of the roof to slope into an open gable? seriously. probably a multi million dollar house too.
West Coast Roofer - Roofing and Roof Repair ...everything about that roof was so bad, it made me cringe the whole time I watched the video! I was seeing everything wrong before you pointed it out! The homemade ridge cap was the least of their worries. I hope they get it fixed quick, because that roof is gonna leak all over the place, not to mention it looks like HELL!
@@SouthCountyRoofing don't let anything go. They would've had a hard time with the messed up design of that roof but that doesn't excuse the crap workmanship.
I don't even do roofing at all. Never have even worked any form of construction job in my life. But at the start I just said to myself "I don't think it's supposed to look like that".
Great video showing why an inspection is "Well" worth it. The owner of that roofing company either condones the fraud roofers who work for him; or requires it. That is criminal and is fraud by deceit.
I'm not a roofer but I've done several for friends/family as well as a couple flip homes. It's really not that complicated. Just labor intensive. Common sense construction kind of work. This was just laziness or a complete lack of understanding how to water proof a surface. It amazes me how hard it is to find decent workers these days.
I have shingled many roofs, and THAT is a complicated roof, but that's no excuse for the shoddy workmanship and incompetence. Whomever did this, had absolutely no idea what they were doing! This one requires a lot of knowledge, skill, and patience. as well as manpower, to do it right...
I've never seen such a terrible job in all my 07 minutes and 10 seconds of roofing,
A Poet From mars ima just drop a like and a comment due to your vast knowledge of roofing and expertise.
A Poet From mars Technically you haven't seen a better one to so it's the best you have seen.
The best and worst he has seen in his long career.
A Poet From mars haha
LOL
Well never thought I'd watch a video about a bad roofing job but here I am.
I never thought anyone would watch either, lol.
West Coast Roofer haha it was in my recommended so I was basically like hell why not
West Coast Roofer 20k now that's daylight robbery
Same...watched the whole thing too lol
god bless random recommended feed
I have never seen a poorer roof job. Probably because I've never seen a roof job but still.
Never say never.
Thats the power of reddit. Thats what brought me here.
My mother in her 60's never saw a roof job either, but from her driveway on the ground saw the worst job ever on her rof, she knows nothing about a roof it was that bad. shingles were run crooked, pipes werent cleaned and the pipe jacks the installed were letting water in. They shingled over a 24 inch hole, yes they shingled over a hole. They didnd remove the existing nails and there were obvious high and low spots. and the list goes on. I should post it on youtube. The company was SHELTERPRO roofing in san antonio Texas. I refused payment, After finding 4 substantial gross indefensible breaches in the contract, they wanted to do minor cosmetic fixes and get paid. nope not happening. So i called another rofing company RADIANT roofing, explained the issue and they did the job, fully documented more issues upon take up, found more decking needing replaced,. 14 4x8 sheets, which i verified, 10 of them i requested. Its not perfect, but its as perfect as you can do on a 50 year old house. After a year and some ugly storms its holding up just fine. This job in the video is salvagable at least, a few guys for a few hours.
That smug grin in your picture completes it
I'm not a professional roofer, but I've done my fair share of roofing with relatives who are pros and on my own buildings. "BAD ROOFING JOB" doesn't even begin to describe just how bad. I could spot most of the problems easily --- and I had cataract surgery a week ago, so only one good eye.
I had a guy do my roof a few years ago. I ran up there as soon as he left and set up with the ladder and did an inspection with a friend.
That guy surpassed my expectations, He put flashing where I didn’t think about putting it and saw his solutions and repairs and realized this guy was two steps of me.
Job was worth every dollar. I even recommended him to other friends.
ok
Guy who did mine 2015, asked if I felt safe coming up to inspect. I said sure. I had been up there plenty of times cleaning the gutters. He showed me everything, even stuff he had to repair from the last roofing job in the 90's. He even replaced a section of wood that had some water damage, replaced my turbine vents & placed an extra vapor barrier over the entire roof. He was a good dude and told me it wasn't worth losing your reputation to save time or a few bucks. ~ Now I tell everyone I know that needs roofing done, about him. JZ Roofing in Arkansas.
@@suzukisentinel9570 he's right, who's money would be saved anyways? If you cut corners and take short cuts, you end up costing the customer more money when they have someone else fix it.
Legend has it, you're
still on that roof finding little extra things the guy did.
That or ur not a roofer and he did the bare minimum lol 😂
wow, that title wasn't exaggerating...that was horrific
It's nice when the video title is not misleading. I hate that.
Never thought see you here like your channel
WarBear now i wonder what happened after this?
my thoughts exactly
How to shingle a shed
"Pretty impressive amount of short cuts."
That is a beautiful sentence.
Grayson L.: wtf this is this third time I’ve read a quote from a video as it played in the the video. Life is weird man.
Kyore that’s how it always goes man lol
Kyore what the fucking fuck it played as I read this comment
Father Kenshi amazing when that happens
Holy shit same thing just happened
Get down before the whole thing slides off
lol that's what I was thinking the whole time I was scared for him. I was wait for him to step on a section that wasn't nailed in.
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂 pissing
I was actually expecting him to fall through the roof because they didn't properly plywood it in like what tim taylor did on tool time.
An A for Effort though
As a framer this roof design is a nightmare. There are soooo many troughs without saddles or scuppers/drainage relief!
Me not even being a roofer, never done any roofing at all ever in my life noticed the same thing. That shit looks wildly stupid.
Agreed. Not to mention the use of crickets. Really shoddy work. And the guy who drew this house gets away with it.
The architect is terrible, the framers who left off the crickets are terrible, the roofers who just rolled with it and added to this sad mess are terrible. The GC who let this happen on his watch is terrible. Just another example of people self medicating at work from what I see.
@@homewithbuddy8510 this would be a case of you get whatcha paid for but for 20 grand the guy should have gotten an immaculate looking roof
@@dot_dot_pwn2650
I agree, what a nightmare!!!
My roof on my bungalow is simple, 4 slopes, that's it.
I'm a 63 year old woman but I get up there and inspect it myself!
I had it redone in 2013, because of the careful research I did before chosing products and companies, my roof looks brand new still.😁
That's not a roofing job, that's theft on a grand scale! ... get them to court....
Grand Theft Roof
This is california. Im pretty sure shingles are optional anyways, seeing as it never rains.
emoAnarchist In what way was Pluto: comment supposed to be funny. You being emo is funny seeing how we're way past the 2000's but his comment had no pun what so ever. I'm pretty sure he was wasn't joking. It rains like twice a year in Cali hence the forest fire.
@@INDY92500 i feel sorry for you if you think that puns are the only thing that's funny.
It's not only puns that I think are funny, I thought you being emo is funny. There's No pun there?
Well... I guess there's always FLEX TAPE TO PATCH, BOND, SEAL AND REPAIR!
I SAWED THIS ROOF IN HALF!
@@PraxusUK FUCK YOU I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT! lol
I JUST STUCK MY MARRIAGE TOGETHER WITH FLEX TAPE! THANKS FLEX TAPE, NOW NO ONE CAN HEAR HER CRIES FOR HELP!
@@CMD_IE OMG THATS SO WRONG
Not really
why was this in my recommendations? interesting video though
Sebarino same here! 😆 I have no idea why I got this recommended to me but here I am, learning what NOT to do 👌✌️
well the algorithm worked u clicked on the video and liked it...
I have the exact same question
Same here
same.
Expose the criminal contractor who robbed the homeowner for $20,000, while doing two dollar work!
He's already back over the border!?
He got 20,000 plus 100.00 tip per worker.
Good thing the payment hadn’t been completed yet! That’s why you have an inspector come out before you pay! I just had my roof done! Definitely going to have it inspected just in case!
@@richardjoseph8683 you mean u.s companies hiring illegal immigrants? Looks like you should shame u.s companies like trump golf courses and hotels to stop hiring illegals. Have some accountability
Who ever hires them should have their balls fined off including Trump!. If you run a legitimate construction business like I do you cannot compete with the scumbags who hire illegals for $10.00 an hour cash & have no insurance or pay taxes on their employees. Sounds like you might be one of those stand up citizen's who would hire illegals or possibly still living in mom & dad's basement!
I wanted to see owners reaction 😂
same
He was probably called after the owner lost their shit and needed a report for the lawsuit they filed.
I want to see the roofers reaction when he realized he wouldn't get paid.😳😭💥
@@siriosstar4789 sadly he said a fin payment was already pending in the video
@@siriosstar4789 that Pikachu face meme
Legend has it he’s still up there finding wrong things.
: )
😂😂😂
Hahahhaa that’s funny asf dude
hahah I laughed too hard about this comment
😂😂😂
I don't even know why I'm watching this, I don't even have a roof.
You must get really wet every time it rains. :-)
@@my3dviews
Lol, I would imagine so... question is, where does he live?
Anyways, God Bless!
@@thalmoragent9344 Shut the fuck up with your god bless
I'd bet he doesn't have a roof but he has a ceiling. Most likely an apartment.
@@PLAYER-MOST-WANTED how about u get the fuck on with ur bitch ass, there nothing wrong with saying God bless
Having roofed my own house and worrying that being a 16th of an inch off on my overlap every now and again was sloppy. I now feel a hell of a lot better.
I worked in roofing for 10 years. From 15-25. Even at 15 i would be hugely embarrassed to put out this level of garbage work. Scam artists are everywhere
When I was a kid my parents helped out a local kid and gave him odd jobs. When they built a shed they got him to do it and he nailed those soft-ish roof tiles (shingles? I don't know the English terminology, but they look like in the video) to the roof, meaning it leaked like hell. He had never seen that kind of roofing material before.
He's like 40-45 now and is a professional and has done a lot of goodwill for our family because my parents were good to him when he was a kid.
gildrop you get for what you pay
What if the owner was a cheap ass guy
gildrop I barely started helping my uncle at 13 now I’m 15 and damn that roof is fucked
$189 well spent i say. the other 20 grand. not so mutch.
Well it wasn't spent yet because he never paid them. Agree about the $189 though...
He only paid half
@@thatgirlwithpcos How do you know ?
@@thatgirlwithpcos The video said there was a pending payment. But not that the owner was going to keep 10000.
Pffff! Spell, "MUCH"?
I'm a mechanic and could roofer better than this.
Dez Nutz can you spell any better though?
I see no spelling mistakes. I'm guessing you meant grammar.
Could you roofer better?
Lol I am also mechanic and I would not want to roofer at all
I’m a roof and I could mechanicer better than this
Looks like a pretty complicated roofing job. Actually, the fact that it only cost $20,000 would have been my first clue that it was going to be a hack job.
20k is cheap? Fuck
20k isn't cheap in most places. In certain spots, roof work will run you 2-3 times what it costs in other places.
This dude is lying a roof job does not cost no 20 k ...mf would be rich..use ur head when these trolls comment
@@lilbagz4418 I suppose it depends on where you live.
@@dtayl3 no it doesnt
I see they installed his self filling indoor pool .
Yeah, they were primed for a little indoor swimming.
I fuckin laughed my ass off
unfortunately it only works on cloudy days!
Just shingle it with flex seal. Shit roof? NO PROBLEM! FLEX SEAL!
L O T T A D A M A G E
Thank god I wasn’t the only one who thought of that.
LOL!!
@@ericestrada3530 not more than 20 grand
I think you mean flex tape lmao
Bob the builder can't fix that
Phil swift can
How about fix it felix?
Sure he could !!
Scoop will instead with help from muck and dizzy and rolly too
Holmes can
I feel like that’s a very difficult roof and an equally difficult shingle to work with but I feel like a first time DIYer would have done better than that shit right there lol
yeah you know whoever did this did not care at all it would leak liike a sieve i did my own roof and looked for the best possible materials and techniques never had any roof leaks in 20 years still looks good
I don't know why RUclips recommended this video to me, or why I clicked on it, but you know what, I'm not mad.
Thank you! I appreciate that.
We had someone recommend to us replacing our tile roof with asphalt shingle. Yeah sure! Let me take off my 100-year roof for a 20-year roof. That makes a lot of sense...
Yeah, I was wondering about that part of the story.
Depends on how many years and what current condition your "100 year" tile roof is in. There are plenty of benefits to a cheaper 20 year single roof, especially in areas of Cali that rarely ever get rain.
california gets a lot of sun and that takes a toll on shingles, plus they get real hot and heat up your house.
MarkM5 I had something like that happen, I got a metal roof, was installed 10 years ago, should last a lifetime. I had someone out to do new gutters, they recommended I get a new roof because it is showing some age. It still looks the same as when it was put on. They even took there time to come up with a price, even wanting an extra grand for disposal of the old.
The key to any good roof is not always the product but the installer and another Super key thing is to keep people off the roof that is a number one no no in the roofing industry tiles are expensive to replace and hard to find
This is an incredibly complex roof. Probably beyond the skill of the company/crew that did the job.
HEAV¥HAND Agreed. No attempt to stagger the sawteeth, even.Blatantly obvious there are problems before the inspector even started pointing things out..
Roofing is one of those things where anyone can do a small, simple project, but you need an expert to deal with the complex stuff, or the large projects. The homeowner wisely called in apparent experts.. it's just that the 'experts' sucked ass and did not live up to the reputation preceding them.
When my un-handyman can't-be-arsed lazy ass looks at work done and can say 'they did a horrible job, I can and have done better', there's a serious problem.
@@tashkiira7838 A waste of money and time just because he went with the cheapest one.
Nothing wise about the homeowner at all since he should have gotten an expert in to do it in the first place instead of being cheap.
You get what you pay for after all.
Amateur night at the roofing company.
It's hard to find good workers.
The crew was probably about 10 guys who have never considered reading a pack of shingles.
The supervisor was nowhere near the roof.
I've heard it all... It boils down to the customers who wouldn't buy a used Yugo or Chevette to drive their kids and pocket dog to the soccer field... They get massive loans for their BMWs and their Tahoe and their Lexus and that water ski boat... but they price shop roofs and get stingy, claim that the insurance company won't give them but a tiny bit of the price quoted.
they were probably qualified to roof a dog house...
They completely blew the easy parts.
Looks like the gardener took a shot at roofing.
Its like a homeowner type job
@@elliottsmiles170 it looks like^
Yeah it does .. but for a professional, shameful
🤣🤣🤣🤣That’s funny 😄.
@@owensmith1258 I can do a better job, you can't get cheaper than doing it yourself for the same quality
Puke and Run construction. And I am sure they will honor all warranty claims. "The number you have reached is not a working number".
waiting4aliens lmao
I thought the same thing
You won't be waiting for aliens too long my friend they're all around the Sun. But FYI aliens are fallen angels they're not from this Dimension or Planet there for their alien by definition. And FYI we live on a flat Earth. Your comment is so true
I’m just glad there’s people like you out there that charge cheap money to make sure people‘s jobs were done correct. Keep up the good work
That’s what a roof costs. It’s like 500 bucks a square that isn’t a bad price at all. The guy was just terrible.
@@jfromtheburgh5643 your response has nothing to do with the comment
@@hans4379 it actually does. The original price wasn’t bad at all
@@jfromtheburgh5643 yeah if it was done correctly but it wasn’t making it a terrible price
@@jfromtheburgh5643there's too many factors to say anything about what a square goes for. Flat roof, metal, tile, slate ( which Believe you and me, is all over houses in NYC). That steepness, the quality of those shingles. He paid for a $25,000 job and that's what he got. He didn't like the sound of say $35,000. Thankfully they didn't have any flashing to do around a chimney and I'll leave it at that
I live in Makeup RUclips Land. I dont know why this was in my recommended, but it's 3am, and i now know what my roof should not look like.
Paris Roam lmao😂
Oh my god the cringe
What sort of makeup would you recommend for a person with a bad case of shingles?
@@PongoXBongo she wouldn't understand what shingles are.
@@oneshadowdragon
Everyone knows what shingles are!
They're the little bell thingies that belly dancers use when they are doing the jiggy jiggy.
It's crazy how so many roofing companies do horrible work and get away with it.
Best $189 that homeowner ever spent. Also, the worst $20,000 s/he ever spent.
I was the one who told the owner to get a roof inspection when I was flying by 🤣🤣
Bro and that’s presidential seamless material it costs much more than standard comp shingles. Crazy
I'm guessing that if he got other bids that $20,000 was a really low bid for this roof and shingle combination.
They needed a progress inspection. Most likely the roofer will walk from the final payment. The cost to repair this roof will probably be greater than the final payment.
@@thebullgator the only way to repair that mess would be to tear it off and start all over.
Wow that's a terrible job!... this is gonna be a nightmare in civil court!.
Yup
something tells me they wont show up
My teacher when I hand in an essay
What recourse did the homeowners have? Looks like a complete re-roofing job required.
Very likely they sued the contractors they used.
@@kikook222 Yea I'd say that final payment did not go through. If he didn't sue he brought out another company and vetted their credential more thoroughly. If I was in that house I would just move though what a terrible roof design.
The dude who did that has to pay whatever the cost of a new roof is. Done by professionals. I'm guessing about $30,000-$40,000. The law also says he pays whatever he charged them. $20,000. So $50,000. He effed up in a large fashion. Unless he skipped the country w his 10 gs.
I just did a screw up the court deemed a screw up. Customer sued. Won. I came in and did it. He paid. Then paid the customer the original $10,000 he swindled em out of. So it cost him $21,000. By court order.
@@RyanGallagher42000
I'm a single woman with a house. I needed a new roof. Mine is a simple, 4 slope roof thankfully.
I did research for weeks, got familiar with how a roof is built, I researched options, such as metal vs shingles, researched products from the underlay to flashing to shingles etc.
I researched companies, went through their BBB ratings, asked around, asked questions, even drove around looking at roofs, I looked at reviews, looked at how long they'd been in business, checked for lawsuits etc.
I had 4 estimates done.
I also asked for addresses where the companies had worked and drove by to see what their work looked like.
I finally made my choices.
This was in 2013.
The company did a stellar job!!!
I am so happy with their work, how it looks, everything. I chose the best quality products I could afford.
My roof still looks brand new and I live on Canada's West Coast where we get extremes in weather, temperature, precipitation etc.
I go up there and inspect it myself. The slopes are gentle, it's pretty safe.
Anyways , research is the best thing we can do to protect ourselves!!!
Cheers!
No. Not at all. Must of the run work is fine. That's most of the roof. All of the flashing, trim, eaves and cap have to be ripped and replaced. And find out what the f*** is under the shingles in that one area. Is horrible work. Horrible roof/framing layout. Good roofing company could fix it in a day.
Oh neat! It's the results of one of those "world's fastest roofer" videos.
Why did you watch it then the title tells you what it is then you complain about it . Just stick to watching little kitten videos
What !
@@ronaldfrable8422
What are you talking about?
What ?
@@ronaldfrable8422 where?
Where's the flex seal infomercial guy when you need him?
RE:Zittam xd. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah!
*W O W T H A T S A L O T O F D A M A G E*
Lmao
thats funny zittam he needs to get up there with his roller and make the roof float lol
I CUT THE FUCKING HOUSE IN HALF?!!? NO PROBLEM JUST PUT THAT SHIT BACK TOGETHER WITH FLEXSEAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
“Skilled Labor isnt cheap” and “Cheap Labor isnt Skilled”
In this case, " Expensive labor isn't skilled " lol
I see what you did there buddy!
@5:30
You got that quote wrong when 20k is expensive
@@jonathanjacobo612 For this roof 20k is NOT expensive.
The tar paper was probably put on vertically too.
I am not a roofer and I can see how bad that was. It amazes me how people can do that to others.
I know it stinks.
that's why you don't pay 20k for a roofing job! buy tin, install tin yourself, no leaking, save 15k , done
Car Salesmen.
[DU]Saggin That easy huh?
This has "lowest bidder" written all over it.
davidwvolz yup, people talk shit like it's the companies fault. $20g's is about right for such an abstract design. No one else would probably do it for remotely close to $20g which is why they bought these shady guys. Lesson learned.
davidwvolz im in the tree cutting business and other things and i am really good at knowing what a job is worth so when they tell me that they find a cheaper bid i just wish them luck.
there's always a lower bid, but will they get quality work- probably not
actually has white american all over it...as mexican labor would get it right
Roofer: We didn't include replacing the flashing in the quote!
I wanted to see the video of when he told the homeowner of his findings and when the roofing company came back and were confronted with the report.
@@zeruulln "To catch a Roofer" NBC tonight
No habla Ingles!
After agreeing to get paid $20,000 for a new roof I can’t believe the roofers did such a crappy job. My roofers replaced all the exhaust vents with new Broans, lead boots on drain vents, all new chimney flashing, properly staggered the shingles. I filmed, climbed ladders to inspect the work. If you don’t know how it should be done, pay someone to verify the work. 12 grand for 40 squares. Estimated 30 grand for All metal. 50 grand for All aluminum. Metal was 1/2 the weight of architectural shingles. Aluminum was 1/2 the weight of metal. If I were rich I would have loved the aluminum roof. Never rusts or leaks. Reflects heat in our hot TX summers.
@@zeruulln Exactly! And why would anyone want to see someone's grief. We should want to relieve that.
Watch rogue traders!!
When I had my roof installed the company lead took me around up top during and after the job was complete. He also sent pictures throughout the day to show progress.
Omg I was a roofer for over 20 years and all I can say is wow 😳 that's bad I've seen jobs like that that I had to fix but $20 grand wow
Jon it pays really well specially if you own the company
Why be sorry. Some people like working with their hands and being outside. Not everyone wants to be stuck in a cubicle!
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To be fair it's 20k with martial which could have been around 10k on it's own, mattering how much squares the roof is. That would leave 10k in labor for tear off and hit on (excluding waste costs). Most likely what happened is that the owner wanted to pay less than what the job was worth and got a sloppy but cheaper job done. Not excusing their mistakes, but it's disingenuous to say the roofers made 20k off of this roof.
There, RUclips!
I watched it! Now leave me alone.
And that goes double for me.
lolz
Who designed the house? That roof looked like a pain in the ass
Architects put no thought into the engineering of their designs.
That's what I was thinking...
Especially look at 3:13 WTF is going on there? The water would seem to have no possible run off path except into the house.
It's a typical McMansion
What I came here to say. This house would last a year or two in the NW.
daaaaaaaamn. had mine done last year and got up there to check on it immediately after they finished. fortunately i had a team that knew what they were doing
In San Antonio TX don't hire. Nicholas George Mora, 37 years old, Steadfast Roofing and Contractors. Horrible work plus it seemed like he was asking for money every time he saw me. I told him several times he wouldn't get a penny more til the job was done. They did a half ass job. When we did the walk through, after he claimed job was done, he tried talking his way out of all sorts of issues. On top of that his employees came to try and collect saying he had not paid them.
Bob Oso mugshots.com/US-Counties/Texas/Williamson-County-TX/Nicholas-George-Mora.169438634.html
@@Tobi-cz6yq yes, that's the guy. Thanks.
HAHHAHA THAT FUCKING LOSER IS A TOTAL MEAT HEAD..I NEVER TRUST A PERSON WITH THAT TYPE OF CRANIUM. ITS A MEAT HEAD.
damn what a fuckin bum. those charges say "im a fucking loser"
Don't just hire any tweaker cause they're cheap
I would have a lawsuit from hell
Crazy, huh!
andy wilson You said. Always higher an Project Manager to over see contractors work. It's worth the Extra Dollars.
How can you sue an illegal alien?
I'm guessing this was a rhetorical question, but yes, you can sue an illegal.
electricalron. Do this job was done by illegals? Or was dona by some crack heads? I think is what all rich people get to have some expensive jobs done wit little bit of money cuz yall want those illegal aliens that you call. Work almost for free. Why you don't hire your own people to do your jobs and stop bitching. But I know why y'all don't do that cuz your people will make your eyes come out of your head with their prices. When really who do the job is the illegal aliens. Cuz the company can be owned by your people but the employees are those aliens. Please people don't be stupid. Commenting some racist Shit. Y'all know all those aliens are here to help feed your family. And please stop saying They come to stole your jobs. Cuz white people want to live with what your government give you
It’s like the guy that did the roof just woke up and said hey I’m going to be a roofer today.
Haha we have lots of those in El Paso, people wake up. Go register their company and call themself one of the best roofers around lol
thats like a good 75% of shinglers out there tbh
I woke up and think I can be the best roofer......for my own roof.....But it is just a square house with not too steep of a slope. I won't be messing up the pattern, it's like the guy that did the roof in the video didn't bother to watch any youtube videos, including one from the manufacturer instructing how to start each new row of shingles. Though, I would like to know what are some other common rookie mistakes...
@@ldlink3935 using roofing nailer guns instead of hand nailing is one. Running the felt over the top of the roof to the other side or starting the felt at the top and working downwards is another. Not correctly weaving corners if there areas the roof needs to be weaved such as a roof that juts out from the main roof. Not properly flashing all areas including all outer edges of the roof "don't use the old flashing" oh, and tearing off more than you can get dried in before you quit for the day, even if the weather forecast isn't calling for rain for days or weeks when you're doing roofing ALWAYS assume it's going to down pour all night into the next day.
@@danielsmit11 Thanks, this is helpful. I must admit, the hand nailing does not excite me, but for my roof with decking from 1948 (boards with large gaps) it seems the prudent thing to do to avoid "air nailing" is to use a hammer. Funny thing is, if neighbors see me using a hammer to do my roof they will assume I cheaped out when the reality is I'd just be trying to do the job right, properly or cautiously. such is life.
I’ve been a roofer and general contractor for a few years now, and um. Well I never realized before how good my boss is at construction. The mistakes that some people actually make, either uninformed or laziness, it’s revolting. So blessed that I was taught right!
No wonder it's terrible, $20k bid for such a chopped up high squareage complicated roof using a high grade specialty shingle.... A professional company would have been $50k to do that right, including all the proper new flashing pans under the siding. Sometimes homeowners bring this silly stuff upon themselves when they go with a ridiculously low bid. The materials alone on that would be $15k.
Don't forget the illegals who installed it, instead of an American.
50K for a roof like that with shitty shingle that last so few years ? US is a scam that should be the price for slate lasting 100years instead of that shit ecological nightmare that last 25 years.
You are preaching to the choir
Not much you can do with limited funds
We never hear stories about how the guy that owns that house is a fucking asshole and that's why such a gigantic roof
Reminds me of my Dad, who is an electrician, who inspected this multi-million dollar house's wiring. Turns out the wiring job was done so bad, he has no idea how they would've got away with it. Almost every outlet box only had the wires cut to the boxes, not connected, most of the light switches didn't work, or turned on other things (he said the porch light turned on the upstairs bathroom light) and the junction box literally exploded when they gave it power. He had to "swiss-cheese" the entire house which was all brand new and redo the entire wiring. It's amazing the lengths people will do for short-cuts.
oh my god reminds me of one time me having to troubleshoot some one elses job in the same company I'm in switches didn't work the travelers were messed up the motion sensors did not work all the low volt was goofed oh lord i mean how do you mess up 3 ways
Ghost1170, sure enough, not just in America. But in US at least you can leave a bad review in internet. In some other sick countries you can face court charges for that (called disparagement) and so there are no bad reviews, as everyone is afraid to write the truth. And guess what? There are also no tradesmen who is able to do the job properly.
I have light switches that turn on lights at the neighbors houses.
Orlando Pockets I found the smug European prat.
@@orlandopockets6372 no its about people being cheap you get what ya pay for
As a roofer . This is not uncommon. Keep going for the cheapest bid and you will buy two roofs
$20k is cheap roof?
@@EdisonChar Right, maybe it's differnent in other parts of the country, but around here you can buy an entire real decent house for 100k, there is NO way on this earth anyone would pay even 20K for an asphalt roof, that didn't have new decking installed. That's ridiculous.
$20 grand doesn’t sound cheap at all. It wasn’t a super mansion.
Buy cheap buy twice
@@EdisonChar look at the size of the roof. 20,000 is a cheap quote.
they didnt Tar or Caulk anything either. 20k down the shitter there.
Holy crap bad.
b-but proto!
why do i find you in every vid I watch?
Hold up, Proto???
proto!!!!!!!!
Why hello there sir, I must ask thee of a question that we, us human beings, inquire. This inquiry is a common one, with what one would call a fan base, or, the group of humans that like your content in particular, this question is exceptionally intruiging, well, it isn't much of an inquiry, more like the start of one. We ask, but, why, human being that associates himself with two famous video game characters, Mario, and Protoman, from Super Mario Bros. and Mega Man, respectively.
Man wasting money for this aww hell no
I agree!
twice the guy behind the camera is wasting his time to because he can't fix it.
I don't understand, the guy behind the camera is paid to do an assessment, not fix the problems. So he is not wasting his time, and this whole video was spotlighting how such a service is not a waste of money. And i think he could fix the roof, it would probably have to be done from scratch though.
It is not a waste of money. Unless your willing to scale that roof yourself (being the homeowner) and know what your looking for, $189 is a drop in the bucket for almost any roof inspection. Yes it would have to be torn off and re-done. Better to pay that price and be able to sue the contractor that fucked you, instead of eating that $20,000 loss and having to pay the price again in two years when he has water pouring in or rotting away his obviously very expensive house. The homeowner should have done a little more research about the company they hired, at least they had the right idea in hiring an inspector.
As someone whose been taken by a contractor, I really feel this persons pain. You put your trust in people, and they take advantage of you, and rip you off. There are so many people out there who do this intentionally to people. Even if you do your due diligence, people will find a way to take advantage. I hope this person was able to recover some of his money.
Next time maybe don't go with the lowest bid?
Don't feel sorry at all for these cheapskate homeowners, hope they learned a lesson
@@walterbrunswick yeah 20,000 dollars for that roof is actually very cheap. A real roofer would have charged twice that. 20k would barely cover the cost of those shingles alone.
One of the main reasons for this happening is cheap labor. In Spanish there's a saying: "Lo barato sale caro!"
With a house designed that shitty i dont feel for the home owner:D
expecting to get a custom job like that for 20k is stupid
but what do you expect from snobbish cheepskates
and then they cry and probably run to a lawyer
Although sometimes it is just lack of skill and knowledge. Construction crews are a fast turnover trade. People don't want to destroy their body's any more for nearly making a living and no 40k, health insurance or any benefits. This one though is just insane though. Roofing is pretty much the easiest trade next to flooring so this says they didn't care at all.
When i was a contractor, 90% of my tear off and re roofs that had sheathing damage, was improper shingle or flashing from the first installation.
I worked on a roof once that had 8 LAYERS OF SHINGLES on it. Every time the old homeowners needed to re-shingle their roof, they would just leave the old layer on and put new shingles on top of it. Scraping 8 layers of rotting melted slop off that roof was probably my least favorite work experience.
Wow, that gets so heavy!
Oh hell. As someone typically put on the tear off/clean up side of the job, I could feel the kind of growing dread I would experience when I learned there were 8 times as much material to clear, and much of it is rotted to hell and back.
That's crazy! The most I've ever worked on was 4 layers of shingles on top of a layer of wooden shakes.
How in God's green goodness did those trusses survive 8 layers of shingle. How many layers of shakes?
Good luck, I'm behind seven shingles
A really crappy job. I'd demand a total tear off and reroof. And by another contractor. I wonder if the owner took the cheapest bid.
Doug DiPlacido they probably did!
...probably for both roofing contractor and for architect. And in that market, paying for the best would probably only shave a fraction of a percentage point off the profit from selling the house.
20,000. . . .???
Imagine if this wasn't the cheapest bid in this one-step-up suburb.
Steve Rogers was gonna say... unfortunately for guy here, he got what he paid for.
"pretty impressive amount of shortcuts"..
Lmao I'm dead!.
The roofer that laid that down should be in jail for deliberate endangering of customer’s health
LOL. He's already back in Mexico.
> The roofer that laid that down should be in jail
If you feel that strongly about a person-doing-roofing, please tell me how you feel about the 2022 POTUS, congress, etc.
Just... Just don't fall okay?
I wont, thank you Good Deeds!
He fell
West Coast Roofer - Roofing and Roof Repair I fell one my boss said I bounced when I hit the ground frachered my pelvis
Pls show us a video of your crews work. This is so sad, and the poor home owner probably saved up for this crap work.
Click on my user name "West Coast Roofer". We have about 40 videos up. We specialize in roof leak detection and roof repairs only. We are a roof repair only company.
I doubt the home owner had to save for this. They live in Coto de Casa in OC that's where the Real Housewives of OC are from. Still sucks though.
If you spend $20,000 on your roof there's no way in hell you had to save it up
Bert Paulson Lol I guess I'm poorer than I thought xD
$20g sounds like a bargain for that massive roof. (plus a tile tear off)
I've been a roofer for 16 years now here in Middle TN and I usually get the call to come in and fix another companies mistakes from real bad workmanship, and alot of them are from the bigger companies hiring bad worker and not training them properly, but that roof you walked was absolutely horrible!!
I live in middle tn and I'm 1 of those people that just got screwed on a roof
@@cjdunn5113 sorry you had to go through that with your roof. It's really hard now days to trust anyone who say they know what there doing
@@ericpeterman9332 my 35×15 porch is low pitch and they advised me to use shingles. I was wondering if I coated roof with the rubber of tar products would that stop the leaking where water pools up. Thanks
@@cjdunn5113 since your porch roof is a low slope they should have told you to use either metal roof or EPDM or Tpo. Depending how low of a slope it is if they would have used ice+water underlayment and ran your shingle courses may 1 inch shorter you would have never had any leaking starting. I wouldn't recommend putting any silicone roof coating on the leaking areas, but using tar on those spots might help for a little bit, but with still end up leaking again as soon as it expands and contracts by fall or winter. If you do decide to use tar make sure you use the fiber mesh with the tar and do a couple coats. I know you're wanting to save on spending anymore labor cost since you've already spent a good amount on your roof, but if you're anywhere near the Rutherford county area I'd have no problem stoping by and taking a look at it for you if you're not able to stop the leaks.
@@ericpeterman9332 wow I actually live in Rockvale Eagleville area. Yeah they roofed whole house but the porch is the problem. The use ice and water but it just seems to be slightly ponding in some areas and running behind shingles. Thanks for your advice brother
It was so bad that youtube was buffering for me. Even it couldnt handle it.
I get that this is a shitty job, but what a shitty job from the architect to design such a messy roof too.
I work in window cleaning, now look at the window placement in some of these 'artsy' designs lol.
Agreed! But, a decent contractor should be able to work around this.
I thought there was tile on this previously? It looks like 3 layers of shingle on some parts....
A roofer who knows what he's doing should be able to shingle any roof. Sure, some will be challenging, but none are impossible
yes. This triggers my fear of heights, because it makes me think "oh crap, we are going to have to get up and down this bullshit"
It don’t look to bad from the ground. 😂
Looks great from the roofers house!
A lifetime spent building/repairing homes and I don't think I could find all the flaws in one walk around of that job.
Before I developed epilepsy I used to inspect buildings. This is nothing new, or ground breaking. I've seen countless violations that you'd really have to try to fuck up. Reverse joist hangers, poor flashing jobs, cracked fittings exposed to the elements, etc. My personal favorite was a bucket in a house, that workers shit in.
Holo Teh Wize wulf They left a shit filled bucket in the house?!
Love that you are doing an awesome honest job man! We need more people like you in this business! Just got my roof done and I know nothing about roofs and I already have similar defects!.
Oh man, find a good local roofer and get it checked out.
That's why I never use online reviews for a decison, anyone can create a fake account within seconds and post a great review and do it over and over. I trust and rely on word of mouth and will go the extra mile as to have them show me finished work on similar homes.
Pause at 6:36 if you look at the gutter, it looks like they even cut the shingles flush with the roofline rather then having a bit of overhanging shingles drooping down into the gutters which means that if there's any water running off the roof it's going to run between the facia board and the gutter and rot it out. We're currently redoing the aged roof on our house and the prior owners about 20-25 years ago redid the roof, they cut the overhanging shingles flush with the roof line and didn't leave any overhang. We're now having to replace all the facia boards on a 2500sqft house that has multiple varying layers of roof.
The owner should sue the roofing company!!
That '63 impala has potential
Good eye.
That roof is horrific just from an architectural standpoint. Prone to leaks even if the job was done right.
I called these, Architect's wet-dreams. It really doesn't matter how retarded the design is, as a roofer, it's your responsibility to make it work. I shingled for a decade, I can honestly say that I can shingle anything on earth, no matter how retarded it is. That being said, the more retarded the roof, the more times I'm going to double my estimate.
Your wrong.... sssuurree with existing cladding it would be a nightmare, but if you flash it properly shouldnt be a problem.... mind you I don't like the type of shingles used either.
@@trueRocc You're * --Grammar Nazi
Yeah, I worked on a house once where three different roof sections came together and basically formed a triangular well. There was a drain at the bottom, but of course it was pretty much always clogged with leaves and debris. When we first looked at it there was 8" of standing water in there just waiting to find its way in - imagine what happened during a freeze/thaw cycle.
Most architects have never been on a roof. They sit in posh air conditioned offices and play with a computer and design silly shit that is pleasing to the eye and isn't remotely functional. My local community college was designed by Arizona architects and couldn't stand the first snow then rain cycle of a midwestern spring. There were no eaves or overhangs of any kind and the water ran off the roof, down the walls and thru the backsides of the windows and onto the floors. The band aid was to install hundred of thousands of dollars worth of gutters.
OMG! Horrible! SO important to have your roof installation inspected before you pay out! ALWAYS use a roofer with YEARS of experience, great referrals and customer feedback. Great video!
1963 impala 6:31
Looks and sounds pretty bad ass too. Wish he had smoked em up a bit
Haha, good eye. You can hear it a little bit too.
Challenger too.
yes challenger.. 0:57 but it's a 6 cylinder
That was the roofing contractor making a quick getaway
..."a pretty impressive amount of shortcuts"...classic Good job by the homeowner for getting the second opinion...if you don't know, ask someone who does.
Might have been the same roofers that did my grandparents house. Granted it was 10 years ago, it was a bad job that allowed leaks at all entry points on roof: chimney, stack, vents, and even some nail holes. It also took a long time for us to find out about the leaks in the attic because the insulation was catching it all. Of course by that time, the roofing company had gone bankrupt. Also because the roofers didn't allow for the proper amount of over hang, rain water wicked in under the roofing and rain down inside walls. This was all unknowingly to us until years later when we ended up with termites in the walls due to all the moisture. I'm now getting ready to have the roof redone. I've done a lot of research and got recommendations. While it's a $7000 job, small in comparison to this video, it crunched our savings, I'm going to look into a roofing inspector as well, it's our home.
Worked for my brother building houses during the 70's-80's and we witnessed plenty of shoddy work from our fellow contractors. Can only imagine with the quality of work and work ethic going down all the time what it would be like to purchase a new house now-a-days?
The quality of this work reminds me an awful lot of the guy my dad kept hiring for all of his projects. He hired people for his work crew that had zero experience, and it was blazingly apparent in everything they touched.
Man i would put those roofers out of business. And the owner is a 100 percent responsible for his employees workmanship. This should never happen.
I want to know the final outcome between homeowner and roofing company
I been roofing for about 6 years now. I can guarantee they have been sued
This guy's have no pride in their work they'd take teach t hat
Wow... I hope they got sued big time... but guys like that have a good disappearing act...
Everyone needs to have someone come behind like this and inspect ANY and ALL contract work!
Problem is most "Roof inspectors" don't know any more about roofs than your average "House Inspector." I hired a "Roof Inspector" with a certification and he missed EVERYTHING. Cost me $150 and after he took my money he didn't even give me a written report. No report at all.
Not sure why RUclips has decided to show me this today.
I have no idea, lol.
its trending on reddit
AnimalStomper ai
YT decides nothing. YOU pulled this up.
Why did you pull up this video?
I actually had surgery to legally become a roof - and even I can tell this is not a real roof job.
Eric Cartman right on I had the same surgery! I just hope people respect our pronouns
jpsphilsin what would a roof pronouns be?..
I am unsure what to name this zoof, zayfe and we
my pronoun is felt.
@@SeaSkyCity IT'S WROWWNG!!
UNBELIEVABLE...!!! Not that the job has to be RE-DONE BUT, that the owner would go with such a low-ball price!!! He lives in Cota de Caza for Christ's Sake! Those are Million Dollar Homes!!!
HELL, it would cost $10,000 "just" to remove the old tile roof including dumping charges...alone!!!
Personally, it's gonna' cost twice that to "fix" it as I'm sure any existing damage has not been corrected.
You're right! And, that is what I told him. I can;t fix this. He has to start over. Thank you for taking the time to check out our channel. I hope your find it worth your time. Please subscribe to see more videos. We fix a lot fo bad roofs and you will see some bad work that will blow your mind coming up soon!
Can you do a follow up video on this roof if you still have contact with the owner? I'd love to learn what happened after your inspection.
VHMillsy...I agree. I'd sure like to know what it cost him to "fix" his roof. Had to be a small fortune.
Thanks that answers my question because I was just sitting here wondering where would you start because I would never let the ones that did that back on my roof even to try and fix it after that.
Maybe he blew all his money on the house
its a terrible roofing job for sure, but also a terrible roof design! wtf is that section at 3:13, the archetect designed part of the roof to slope into an open gable? seriously. probably a multi million dollar house too.
I agree, really lousy design didn't help these guys at all.
Sloppy work, such as in the video can be fatal to your local firefighters. Good spotting.
I agree! You guys have to get up on these while they are on fire! That takes balls.
I personally enjoyed the two exposed nails in every single piece of homemade ridgecap
It's all in the aesthetics.
I wouldn’t accept that on my shed much less my home
Nice catch. The roof was so bad I had to let the homemade ridge go and not harp on that, lol.
West Coast Roofer - Roofing and Roof Repair ...everything about that roof was so bad, it made me cringe the whole time I watched the video! I was seeing everything wrong before you pointed it out! The homemade ridge cap was the least of their worries. I hope they get it fixed quick, because that roof is gonna leak all over the place, not to mention it looks like HELL!
@@SouthCountyRoofing don't let anything go. They would've had a hard time with the messed up design of that roof but that doesn't excuse the crap workmanship.
20k seems like alot, but for Grand Sequoia that was probably the cheapest by a significant amount. Never go with a lowball bid!
I don't even do roofing at all. Never have even worked any form of construction job in my life. But at the start I just said to myself "I don't think it's supposed to look like that".
Bless you for exposing bad workmanship.
Bro, you did a great job with the inspection. I'm so scared of heights.
Great video showing why an inspection is "Well" worth it. The owner of that roofing company either condones the fraud roofers who work for him; or requires it. That is criminal and is fraud by deceit.
I'm not a roofer but I've done several for friends/family as well as a couple flip homes. It's really not that complicated. Just labor intensive. Common sense construction kind of work. This was just laziness or a complete lack of understanding how to water proof a surface. It amazes me how hard it is to find decent workers these days.
I have shingled many roofs, and THAT is a complicated roof, but that's no excuse for the shoddy workmanship and incompetence. Whomever did this, had absolutely no idea what they were doing! This one requires a lot of knowledge, skill, and patience. as well as manpower, to do it right...