Honda Civic SI Review - Sawing at the Wheel - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The 2022 Honda Civic SI is built on the 11th generation of the Civic, and referencing decades of history and driver love. We take the brand new Si on a great Los Angeles back road to see if we can find the edges, while debating the style and usability. Join us.
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Disagree. This Si looks much better than the previous. An adult won't be embarrassed by being seen in this.
Disagree with you. I like the 10th gen style, and those cocky adults that just could not get it. They need to get over themselves. The new 11th models looks too much like a VW jetta.
This car looks so much better than the last gen. Reminds me of the great 90s civics in some ways
Yeah the more you stare at this design, the more you see shades of old Honda, quirky as it may be.
From the front to the B pillar, yes. Anything after that, give me a freaking break...
This comment reminds of a TV reporter asking a kid at Apple Store Eaton Centre in line for the new iPhone 12, what so good about iPhone 12 and the kid replied saying oh I m just buying because I love the new green color 🤷🏽♂️
@@SINGH-ing Iol I never said I would buy it on its looks alone
100% agree. Personally the 10th gen SI design was a dealbreaker for me. As a mid 30s professional, it was far too "boy racer." 11th gen is a winner. I only wish the US version SI was based on the touring trim like in Canada, with heated seats/steering wheel, wireless CarPlay/charging, auto dimming mirror, and the SHIFT lights..so cool.
I'm just happy they finally high fived when switching seats
I'm not in the market for this type of car but I have to admit I really like it. For the price & features, it's hard to beat if you're looking for something in this segment.
They absolutely solve the styling. It doesn’t look like a crazy angry cricket or whatever kind of bug anymore. It’s more classic and calmer looking
Lmfao the angry cricket the back of old gen for sure
Totally agree. Looks like a car that an adult (like me) that would drive and not feel like I was a teenager. Honestly from the side it has a little BMW 3 look to me. Love that. Sub $30k is also amazing.
As a 20 year old who is getting one of these cars here sometime in December, I absolutely love the styling. Way better than the last gen imo.
And 37mpg on the highway is great for a car that won't bore you to death. Used to have an 07 wrx 5 speed and it was so much fun to drive everyday. Now I have an 18 4Runner SR5 and it is cool, but I don't go off-road like I thought I would and it gets 17mpg. I live at the gas station.
I love the new design
My friend is a nurse and daily drives a Honda Civic Si. His weekend car is Porsche 911. Everything makes sense
I could not listen to that Paul dude go on about the design. This is better than any old Porsche he drives. This is a beautiful sedan. It is a winner in market. Nuff said.
He's always critical of Hondas.
I own an 09 Civic SI coupe in Orange Pearl and I think the 11th gen Si is the best looking Si yet.
Coming from a skeptical owner of a 10th gen si, I actually like the styling of the 11th generation and I love to hear that you guys are enjoying the car overall. Now I need to go drive one!!
Finally a 10th owner who isn’t hating on the 11th lol
Wouldn’t be a huge upgrade over the 10th I’d hang onto the 10th and use that money in mods
@@SIIKAP1 Former 10th gen owner here. The 11th doesn't seem like a big upgrade on paper, and in some ways its a downgrade, but I'm hoping they made improvement to the fun to drive aspect. I think the styling is less wild but will age better. I kind of want to drive one now
@@maximus9401 yeah, not much of an upgrade overall. But will still be nice either way. I really like the styling. I’ve heard it’s really fun to drive too
I really like how it looks. Im really excited to see the type R but I am really considering buying one of these.
That rear seat shot is AMAZING!
Totally agree.
Not an over correction. It Looks elegant. A $28k car that looks great instead of gimmicky cheap👍 can't wait to drive it! Btw, I'm 49 & like it.
Great review and jives with a lot of other reviewer comments, except Eat Sleep Drive who was a bit negative about the steering. What bugs me is that the new Canadian Civic Si is a similar price but comes with more features.
In my humble opinion the Accord is a gorgeous car especially at night with all the LEDs lit up in the front. For the life of me I don’t understand why the civic design team just won’t admit defeat and make the civic look like a small accord
Not sure what people are complaining about, this civic looks nice. Inoffensive, but thankfully less gaudy than the previous gen
If the headlights looked more like the Accord, that would be nice. Otherwise, the Civic looks better than the Accord for the most part.
Insight already looks like a small accord, and it looks gorgeous and better than both accord and civic imo, if they just just gave that this interior then it would be perfect.
Two different cars in suspension and transmission
I checked and here in Canada, this car is the exact same price on a Lease then a Mazda 3 Turbo. I think they are both good cars with the best fit and finish in this class, but value for money, the Mazda has more of everything. 250hp, AWD, Leather, ect...
What was "close" I rewound it and couldn't see it. I've always been enamored with the SI and they've been killing in SCCA autocross. This is the review I've been waiting for on this car. I missed having a wrap up on this versus the competitors it would be cross shopped against, so hopefully you have time for a more extensive review.
Todd got pretty close to the wall on one spec and Paul commented. Also - we have this verses the GTI as part of Season 10. Thanks for watching!
You guys talk over each other a lot. It's annoying to listen to and unprofessional,
Awesome review! The fact that the Si is so good portends good things for the Integra.
They keep bragging about the affordable price mean while dealers marking up $2,000-$7000 over
that high 5 you guys gave each other when switching places brought a smile to my face.
Nice job guys and Hondas 38 mph isn’t too bad either!
It never ceases to amaze me how far cars have come in the past 30 years. My 1991 Civic DX hatchback was so primitive, in almost everyway, compared to this Civic. It did however cost around $9k new, so there's that.
Thank you for the great video!🚗
Have they really come that far? Or have they just turned into mobile phones that you drive? Or ride around in more accurately
Awesome review, and I love the new Civic Si. Is there anything you guys can do to help with dealer mark-ups and price gouging? The problem is getting out of hand, to the point that I almost think you should've said under 30 grand if you're lucky enough not to get raked over the coals by bottom feeding dealerships.
This problem enrages us, but short of calling it out regularly on our Podcast, and encouraging buyers to never pay a mark-up, there's little we can do. It would be great if manufacturers restricted the flow of cars to those dealers, but that's beyond our control. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos Thanks for the reply, and I think I understand where you're coming from. At least you're on what I consider the good side, the one that knows this stuff is wrong. I still think if we collectively talk about the problem loudly enough something might get done. Maybe someday automakers will facilitate direct ordering a lot more.
I went to go put a deposit down on one, and they were asking $2500 over MSRP. Not a good value at that point
It still cracks me up that Honda in the last gen initially removed the volume knob and out that slider on the steering wheel, people complained and the volume knob came back. VW in the new GTI decided to take it even further and thinks it’ll be a success…
Regarding the looks of the new civic. Looks are subjective and I personally like it. It’s more conservative that I like. I thought the last gen was way over styled. The only thing I don’t like is the overhang of the “upper bumper” as you call it in the video.
I bought one. Love the low curb weight, one of the best suspensions driving country roads, beautiful shifter and knob, great use of cupholders and quite practical in terms of space. Honda can you make the hazard button light up?
I agree. Country roads, this Si works magic.
Under 29k MSRP
..when it hits the dealership it's 40k
Great runtime on this review, not too long or too short; perfect. Loved the exterior windshield view of the road and the interior view looking forward part the reviewers and out the windshield. I could feel the curves...felt like I was on that road with you guys. Engine / exhaust sound work was superb...the best on any channel.
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I understand a lot of guys want space (hence the civic getting bigger) but I just like a small car dimension. That and the weight gain makes me a bit nervous. But maybe I just need to drive it and judge then.
The hood got a LITTLE bit longer and it gained 45 lbs. It’s not going to be noticeable or an issue.
@@SIIKAP1 At least it is aluminum in this Si.
Nice reveiw deakers asking five to ten thousand above
Just because something is different doesnt make it good. You can applaud the design team of the 10th gen for taking a risk but I dont know many people who werent very young that liked the styling. If you dont want your car to look like a gundam the design is a huge step up for me.
Yep the 10th gen’s were one of the ugliest cars on the road
He really said the last gen looks better and then criticized the "extra" flourishes on the current gen. The entire design of the last gen is extra flourishes.
This car is beautiful
I just reserved what will likely be a 2024 Si. I couldn't believe it when I learned the weight is only 150 lbs more than the S2000. That's amazing for a modern sedan.
Wheelbase nearly as long as a 04-08 Acura TL. (107.7 vs 107.9).
Cars have been getting longer, time to accept the reality my man
The interior is the gem in this generation civic SI. The weakest link is that anemic 1.5L turbo motor. I wish this came with the N/A K20 from the past SI. This could have been sold with a detuned CTR motor but then no one would buy the actual CTR when it goes for sale next year. Those are facts.
Excellent review! I like that this civic has smoother rounded surfaces compared to the previous angry looking hard angles it had in previous versions. This civic reminds me of the 90 accord sedan I owned for years and had fun modifying and autocrossing and it had 345k miles on it and still going strong when I donated it.
Dude no. The previous civic looks like absolute dog shit. This new one is wayyyyy better. The taillights are too big and ugly, but that’s about it. Way better than those hideous claw lights and all those ugly, stupid shapes of the previous gen. Now they need to fix the hideous accord.
So weird how much they're bagging on the looks, when it's a much needed upgrade. We don't need every damn car to look froo froo in your face screaming I'm a 16 year old wannabe racer. I rather enjoy the much more clean subtle look.
Nice review scaled down mouse😅
The rear window and all of the things you are talking about are the reasons I'm here.. i love it.. its looks like a BMW to me.The old one suuucks.. it look's like an autobot or a decepticon.
Great car, but Honda definitely didnt "TRY" to keep the price down for America when the Si with more options cost less in Canada. I want to drive it.
This is nice overall, but I think the 10th gen hatchback was an ambitious design and held nothing back. It just went all out and did not apologize for it.
clean dash like that is excellent, very pleasing to look at......many new cars now have too busy dash that can give you migraine LOL
I just recently found out that all of the turbo civics are sandbagged on power numbers.
The mid- level “170 hp” model actually makes over 190 hp, and the si makes about 220 WHEEL horsepower. I’ll never understand why companies do this, but it definitely explains the extra ‘feeling’ of power ha ha.
I just got mine on 3/1. It’s my first manual and was very easy to learn on. Watch some videos on manual driving, and you will love this car!
sedan and hatch look almost the same....why not just kill the sedan..... and sell only the the hatch with better cargo space
The ideal car would be the Si in the hatchback body style.
And for God’s sake, make the rear seats match the front seats.
Great video!! 👍
I love the new design I don't know what they are talking about
I agree w/ Paul about how the styling has made it look less like the previous Civic and more like other cars, but, strangely, i like that about this car. The early sporty Civics had this: clean but sedate styling yet hiding all the mechanical and dynamic goodness inside.
The high five that everyone wanted.
Soooo, since most places you drive are a mix of smooth, good pavement and bumpy, fractured crappy pavement, this car, as a commuter, is overall WORSE than the 10th Gen. I don't know if I would want one of these. The 10th Gen had a great, stiff chassis, and a ride quality that was actually pretty pleasant most of the time. The ride quality was not one of the things that I complained about when I owned that car. What was, was the lack of torque in first and second gear, and the increase in stupid piped in engine noise in second gear in sport mode. Not bad around town, but on a twisty mountain road, the fake engine noise was so bad on second gear curves, that after awhile, I much preferred normal mode over sport. The ride was more compliant, it handled just as well, and you got rid of a lot of the noise. Did Honda make the current 11th gen ride quality too stiff? Let me know.
You 2 are hilarious but u already know that the best part u ain’t even trying.
I thought I remembered hearing that the previous car had a lot of rev hang. If that's true, is that something they fixed with this new model?
it has a lighter flywheel so it wont be as noticeable
I still really dig the last body style. It was cool in its own way. Just like with this one. I really like the sedan variant.
One of the reasons for handling is that it has some suspension bits from the Type R on the front.
Would love to see a test between the Civic SI, Kia Forte GT, Elanta N-Line, and VW Jetta GLI.
Out of those cars, I've driven the Si and forte. I'd say the si blows the forte out of the water. Maybe it's cuz I didn't have it in sport mode. I currently have an 8th gen si and would love to get an 11th gen
Australian Honda Customers only get a choice of the top of the line model at a fixed price of $47 200 (similar to the SI here).
Honda underreported the HP by 20 according to HONDATA dyno.
While it's much better looking, it needs a major diet. The best one imo was the 2000 with the b16a2 that weighed 2200lbs with 160hp was a blast to drive..
I actually like the more conservative styling. It has a more mature look.
I think the Sport or Sport Touring hatchback with a manual transmission would be almost as much fun and much better ride quality.
I agree we need to see the sport touring hatchback manual review.
I found one in production but dealer wants $32k - Touring Manual in black
Honda needs to make type R as AWD.
It has Audi A4 vibes for me
It wasn’t as though the prior gen was edgy…..it was ugly. Two words: fake vents. This version looks great. Think the earliest Si models…..they didn’t look markedly different visually (I’d owned an 89 si - wonderful car). Not sure what Paul is on about wrt the taillights being too big. But then again I love stealth performance variants of sports sedans - think older M and S versions of BMWs and Audis. Some badges and special wheels and then the rest was performance gear.
On the other hand - have never driven a civic type r because I can never imagine owning one and driving something so god-awfully ugly.
I could do without all the red on the seats and door cards. Stitching would have done just fine. And if they are gonna do those seats, why do the rear seats look like they were from another car? Where is Paul’s design acumen on that point?
how does the driving compare to GR86?
I think this car is great to learn stick .. easy clutch perfect shifts .. best car to learn on …. Not sure
He knows what he’s talking about even his passenger was like yeah sure … it’s made for people to learn .. ease of use
Would you buy a Mazda 3 turbo or the Civic si?
I'm conflicted... I've seen videos saying this is one of the best cars to learn to drive stick on... also that the Si seats are very comfortable. This video says the opposite on both. Guess I'll eventually get to decide for myself.
The new SI would be a great car to learn stick on, as the transmission is excellent. But many of the cars that are easiest to learn on actually have softer and less rewarding transmissions that accept mistakes. In the long run you’d be happier in the SI. And seats are totally personal. We hope you get to drive one. Thanks for watching!
Unfotunately the Si Is not sold in Europe
What road were you driving on?
Try and buy one, dealers are asking anywhere from $3K to $15K over MSRP if you want one. THIEVES!!!!!
Market adjustment pricing has these at $36k. For a 200hp car without power seats, that's a different propostiion entirely. Great video as always, but I think this very handsome car ultimately offers too little for the actual price you'll pay to bring one home.
cars like 36,000 at least lol
The Si haven't been a hatch like a while now.
Ummm…. Honda does not listen when it comes to the BIG stuff. Example: The new integra is a huge disappointment.
yes that vertical face is ugly....its very similar to the accord..... and i think that is the only reason why camry beat accord in sales
loving my 2022 Civic SI especially since the tune, check it out!
There's actual buttons on the steering wheel??? Is that something new??? Did I miss something?
The 10th gen was a bit of a disappointment to me. It completed the task of a capable, affordable, and comfortable commuter car pretty well. But it really lacked a soul. Hope they made the 11th gen better in that department
Could well be my next and last car
Does a drive like the GR86 but Fwd
Does it drive like the GR86 but Fwd 🤔 I’m also thinking of the GR86 Rwd or Fwd - I’m going to test the Civic first but I can’t go hard like you guys it just came of the truck on Wednesday…So I have to be gentle 😏 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Any update on this? Which one did u like more?
Definitely think Honda improved the looks. The 10th gen was to over styled for my taste.
I have to disagree with the styling though... I love the 11th gen's design more than the 10th, looks way classier and a design that can last for 10-15 years.
I feel the 10th gen is "overdesigned". Too cringey. too robotic. Looks like a gundam.
I can imagine myself driving the 11th gen and not be overly anxious on how people would judge my taste on cars. lmao.
Why does it matter what others think of your taste? If you love it, drive it. Styling is subjective so for every person that thinks it’s “ridiculous”, there will always be someone that feels the opposite and loves it.
Love it... except for the red door panels and seats in front and black door panels and seats in back. Come on Honda, glaring cost cutting can ruin a car.
y'all giving each other a high five when you switched seats was funny and something a lot of us have said you need to do when y'all switch drivers
Need to add back heated seats. Rides well but looks bland. Shoulda been a hatchback.
I just got it in black. I disagree with most of this review. I actually prefer it looking less sporty..because its NOT a type R. Handles amazing and is comfortable. My literal only complaint is the hond Bluetooth audio lag is complete trash.
Sounds like you agree with a lot of the review but disagree on the styling. Congrats on a great car and thanks for watching.
Honda lied ! If you dyno it’s got 222 hp not 200 hp
Too bad it doesn't come with a spare tire. I don't even see a dealer option to get one.
great review! Curious of its level of fun factor compared to the Gr86.
Still not good enough to leave my 2020 SI, plus no heated seats
6:17 it’s like the amazing cents from the 99-06 saab 9-5
so sick
Couldn't disagree with you guys more on the styling. To my eye its more mature and less embarrassing to drive as a mid 30 something lol, especially the hatchback.
Todd likes this generation much more than the last. Paul is mixed. Glad to have you watching, thank you.
Does it have auto stop/start? How does that work with a manual?
It does, and its fkn annoying. Brake or clutch in turns engine back on. Theres a button to turn it off though
This is the Honda Civic I wanted when I got my driver license. 🥺
The problem with people who review cars... is they complain about cars.
10th gen coupe=best looking
8th gen=best sounding
11th gen=nice TRD Camry
It drives nothing like the TRD Camry