Are Your Handlebars Too Wide? | GMBN Tech Show 231
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- On this week's GMBN Tech Show, Doddy is back from holiday and presenting the show from his Bike Cave, after catching up on the @uci_mtbworldseries Tweed Valley racing, we have been questioning a lot of riders' handlebar width as they appear to be getting narrower.
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What width handlebars are you running? Do you even know, or care? Or are you very particular, if so how did you arrive at your desired width? Let us know 👇
820mm. The best width for me, but would probably not be the best in racing in tight woods.
I run 780 on my enduro and 800 on my Dh bike
720mm. Medium trek remedy I’m 5’5”. Think of going wider though. Running 760mm on my small scout that feels a little wide so 740-750 sounds like it might be the right number
770-780 sweet spot
760 is fair enough for me - im only 173cm tall. That's my middle between wide enough and good/quick manoeuvrability - I like everything with a bit more back sweep and rather go more rise than more spacers. 35-40 is cool for my frame. Atm I´m running fatbars non carbon and like them although many people think they´re too stiff.
One year ago my bike was stolen when I left it locked outside the shops. I had an airtag hidden in my bottle cage and was able to get my bike back within minutes. I would definitely buy some sort of tracker for your bike because it could save you a lot of money as it did for me.
Ive been riding mtb for 32 years. For the trails I ride I've settled on 680mm. Otherwise I start clipping trees. Im 6'1" and it feels fine.
Local trails have some go arounds where the original trail is too narrow for the average bar now😅
Squee! Thank you Doddy, not only for showing off my daughter's new bike with her epic art (did you notice she included an ACDC logo, coincidentally just like the forks you have on set? Soooo proud of her!) but also for the super enthusiastic smile and energy you had whilst talking about it. Can't wait to show her when she gets home. Needless to say - I love the show, all the content and the presenters (sorry about the recent nose/hooter caption contest entry over on the dirtshed - but I just cannot resist a good pun).
Love your energy, excellent dad stuff, your daughters lucky
Glad you're back Doddy! I hope you and your family are fully recovered. Your passion and energy are irreplaceable.
Diddy you really makes it feel like the viewer is having a conversation with a good mate. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I'm 74, 1.750m and 50kg, I have just built a 29er mullet with a 1000w 27.5 behind. With double batteries and used off road, around central and hilly North London I trimmed my bars down to 650mm to get through traffic and offset the slacker geometry the smaller rear wheel gives. At my age I'm not dodging trees downhill, Doddy! Thanks for your great show and happy to see you are also into photography.
5’8” 750mm bars
As I cut them down in steps from 800mm, there was a point where I could keep my hands on the grips properly through a reasonably full turn of the bars. That point is the sweet spot.
Bike for every budget! Bought a demo/rental GT Sensor a few years back for $1500. Barely used too. Since then, the only stock parts that remain are the shock, cranks, dropper post Lever! I still love how the frame rides, so even a ‘cheap’ bike will eventually turn into a full custom bike as you replace almost all the parts over the years….if the frame is good, starting cost is irrelevant
100%. Got a 2016 giant xtc which is going the same way.
Doddy absolutely love the tech show. I just put my old Ergon GS2 grips on my Nukeproof Scout hardtail. I clipped a tree on yesterdays ride and bounced right off. I love the short bar ends for the added protection and switching hand position for short bursts on climbs.
Thanks for doing what u do. An inspiration! Nice to see u back. Learned a lot from u. Thanks
Thank you for posting this as I’m in the midst of trimming down bars on a SC 5010, recently cut from 800 to 780. I’ll probably stop there since the stem is just 50mm. However, other bikes (XC & Trail) are cut to 760 which feels perfect for local South Carolina and nearby trails. I guess it depends on the personal preference and tree gaps. As always, you post great tips and vids. Cheers!!
I run 760mm on my Ragley mmmbop, i always used 780 as a 6'1 rider with longer arms but cutting them down definitly improved my riding position a bit, it's crazy what 20mm on your bars can do
I have those bars too
760 mm for me, too. I'm 5' 8".
760mm is the width I run with a 25mm rise as a 6'0 rider
I like this setting best for the Tech Shows :-)
Hi Doddy, I liked the feel of 800mm bars but after a while I was getting some shoulder pain. After a bit of research I decided to cut the bars down to 780mm and the discomfort disappeared within a couple of rides, also helps with those tight tree gaps!
This was one of my favourite tech shows of the year, great stuff Doddy!
Glad to hear it! Thanks so much for the support! 👊
The bike brand for me is Cannondale, always been a unique/special brand for me.i can't ride any other brand weirdly 😀.760mm for bar width for me👍🏻
Walmart brand lol
Funny, I also stuck to one brand at some point. In my case it's Trek. Wasn't intentional, I got to buy, ride, and resell a couple of bikes and I ended up keeping the Treks. It's just that their geometry seems to fit me soooo well, both road and MTB
Glad to have you back Doddy! Great show as always! 🥰
Thank you, David! 👊
5’10” I have one bike with 770mm bars and one with 760mm. I went to 770mm from the stock 800mm because it felt right. The 760mm bars are stock Renthal FB Lite that came at that width. I like both. I am no where near EWS level riding but I am equally concerned about tree clearance.
My first bike had 680mm bars, then moved on to a hardtail with 760mm ones. My current fully has 820mm bars and with each bike I had, I always felt an improvement in handling and bike-fit.
At the end of the day, most of us only ride for the fun of it, and the 820mm bars are defently the most fun for me.
Fox’s (new to me) “Stepcast style” gravel suspension fork looks pretty sweet. Not a gravel grinder, but I saw it on Fox’s website.
I run 760 and that's just right for me, feels plenty stable but I can flick them around a bit easier when I'm on chunky climbs.
Oh man I loved this EP, Doddy goes BANG
Woah Doddy..... This week's so was very Ranty!! 🤣 I love a rant & I think you put a few folk straight be it about bikes or Pushchairs!! 👍😁🤣🥊
Great vid! I'm currently running 820mm bars on my trek remedy as they came that length stock and I haven't been bothered to cut them since. They feel great as I've gotten used to them but I'd like to try something shorter just to see if it's right as they are very very long. I'm 5'9" so it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to be running that lenght but hey, it feels good.
QUESTION:
Looking to upgrade my fork on my Specialized Chisel XC bike.
Current is 100mm w/51mm offset.
Want a 120mm SID or Stepcast but they are 44mm offset.
Will that change the geo too much or will that less offset balance out the extra 20mm of travel I'll have?
Can it all be worked out as well with shorter/longer stem and/or handlebar rise?
THANK YOU!!!
I used to run a 780 bar on my first MTB in which I began to learn the basics and did my first trails. Recently got a new bike with 760 bars and I did feel the difference the moment I sat on and I worried about loosing on stability, it did felt a little twitchy at walking speed on pavement, to my surprise the moment I got off road the whole thing came together and felt pretty good, the new geometry, wider tires and rims did it's thing
Glad you are back and hopefully healthy! So many people with opinions on what's too expensive, etc. There are bikes for all price ranges so who cares what opinions are out there? I suppose manufacturers care, but It's none of my business how someone else spends their money and no one is forcing me to buy something outside of my budget or that I don't think is worth the price.
That’s probably the most non biased comment I’ve seen on the matter anywhere, fully agree
I recently upgraded my 20 year old mtb with new handlebars. Going from 600 to 720. Feels enormous! Can't imagine going to 800.
5'9" I started with bars that where much wider than I needed. Went for a bunch of rides always notice I wanted to be on the inside of grips. So I cut the bars down 10mill per side. Until my hands stayed in the center to outside of grips. I ended up at 720. I ride cross country and mostly bike park dh stuff.
At 6ft I run 760 on my trail bike and 790 on my enduro bike. I like how strong I feel with the wider bars but I do wonder if I may corner better with the 760s. After tweed I may try the shorter bars on my enduro bike.
That counterlunch is exactly the product I envisioned. To the specific length and curve.
On your rant about stroller product, I agree and it could be extended to first bikes. We had a triathlon stroller that was made by B.O.B. It has front caliper rim brakes and the lever looked like it was probably made by the same folks as Tektro. It was called the Ironman.
I've got two Air Tags on my bike. One on the downtube under the water bottle cage that's almost meant as a decoy. The second is in the head tube using a 3D-printed holder I got off Etsy. Works great. And now I need to go cut my bars.
I've also got an airtag on each bike using Etsy 3d printed mounts. I hear from more and more people that are doing the same.
Snap! #Decoy the steerer tube is the one they won’t find… you hope. Keen to know if the Knog has actual GPS that works with Apples “find my” or just low energy Bluetooth like on AirTags? Where obviously full blown built in gps is much better and would prompt me to pay the extra over the air tag… plus the alarm siren is added deterrent
I have a 3D printer, do you know where I could get the file
@@tigermint69 It's very possible it could work with Find My. I have both Apple Air Tags and a Chipolo air tag that is Find My compatible. Chipolo makes a credit card-sized one that I got for my wallet. Pretty slick.
I do the same.
One AirTag that’s fairly easy to find, and another AirTag that isn’t. That one is named in such a way that it comes up as a serial number and looks like it belongs to the police.
Then there’s a gps tracker hardwired into the battery.
Less than $150 in trackers for each bike and $60 a year in services for peace of mind.
Love the show, always fun to get some more technical info to help me on the trail. Is that some Slick Honey you got their?
Run an air tag on each of my bikes now in the Muc Off bottle cage mounts. All the smarty's comment about how easy it would be to remove (buy the specialist tool etc) but for me its another deterrent and allows me to track my bikes with ease. Would deffo recommend and have just purchased another one for my Dad's bike 👍
Absolutely well said Doddy.
I used to do fine with standard bars of ten years ago. Then I bought a new set of 780mm.. if I remember right, that was 120mm more. However, I have gone back just a little bit. Only by setting up my brakes to the inside, my hands are now snug at the end of my grips. That's all it took. There's about 10mm (maybe slightly more?) difference to where you place your hands. This is just right for me.
On my 2014 full sus originally had 700mm bars. I increased the them to 760mm and went from a 70mm stem to a 60mm stem. On my 29er hardtail it came the 780mm bars. I have replaced them with OneUp carbon bars. Which I cut down to 780mm. I feel the slightly longer bars on the hardtail helps with steering. As my full sus has 27.5" wheels
How I was taught many years ago by MBR, was to do a press up on a tape measure, placing your hands at the most comfortable place, that will be your bar width.
I put my hands under my shoulders when I do that…. Guess I’ll find some 90’s bars.
I tried this and my press up comfortable width is 675mm. I run 760mm bars and I'm 5'10". Maybe I'm just an old school body on a new school bike :- ) I won't be cutting them anytime soon.
Some riders don't know how to do a proper press-up. IMO, the correct hand spacing for a proper press-up is too narrow for mountain biking. The forces on the shoulders is greater during press-ups than the forces from MTB. However, if the handlebar is too wide, it places the shoulder in a weak position, so for both press-ups and MTB, a overly-wide grip is asking for shoulder damage.
This doesn't quite work because it optimizes for press, but MTB requires both press and pull -- and pull is used more. This has been studied in sports medicine literature and the median optimal push/pull posture (from which you can derive bar width) is the one that creates a 20 degree angle between the side of the torso and the inside front projection line of your arm.
@@kiltymacbagpipe they should be just outside of your shoulders with your chest on the floor.
740 on my XC and 800 on the enduro BUT I think 760 is spot on for me across all disciplines. As with most things in MTB, experimentation finds what works for each of us over time.
Thanks Mr Dodd.......... welcome back !...Peace
I use BikeFinder with the warranty, seems to be the perfect stealth device for now with the added peace of mind from the full theft warranty.
Great show!
Great to see you again Doddy. I found a handlebar width formula on the internet. Which turned out to be 750mm for me. Can't remember what the formula was now but I've used it on my Orbea Occam, my Giant Anthem and Giant Trance E plus. All bikes are different but the cockpits all feel the same and I've had a pot of that Shimano grease for years. A little goes a ling way and it is great stuff.
If you’re male, multiply your height in millimeters by 0.440.
If you’re female, multiply your height in millimeters by 0.426.
@@stuarts4673 Yep, that's the formula I was talking about. Thanks Tangerine ST3.
Glad your back
I. run rigid forks on my Gravel bike. I agree with you , save the suspension for the MTB and enjoy the challenge of negotiating trails on a stiff bike. My Cube Nuroad EX gravel bike is slowly becoming my go to bike, Fast on trails that are not to techie and lack jumps and (almost) competent to keep up with my roady mates until going down long decent. The lightness of the bike due to lack of suspension, giant tires etc makes it great for climbing
800s all day long on my MTBs.
Newmen Evolition SL 318.25 on both of them. Fits like a glove for me.
@gmbntech about the alarm, the Yorkshire bike mechanic showed off the biketrax tracker the other week, it’s for ebike tho and is fitted above the motor in your frame. Seemed to work pretty well
Great call out! I watched that video as well… but then promptly forgot about it - thanks for reminding me
In terms of bar length. I originally had 780mm bars, but I keep my bike in my houses sunroom and was getting tired of having to turn my wheel sideways and awkwardly scoot into the doorway because the damn bars were too wide to fit through the door. I went down to 760mm and they feel fine and I can just fit through doorways now.
Something similar to the Loamlab stuff? They're called bar-ends!
Yeah, and the Loamlab bar ends look like they have the same problem…catching a small tree and causing accident.
Regarding bar width, saw a method of calculating maximum bar width by multiplying your height, in centimetres, with 4.40. Take it as a ball park figure or estimate. Mine is 748mm and I run a 740mm bar which feels comfortable enough.
If I were to buy a gravel bike, would have to get a rigid fork. Would just buy a light XC bike if was going to use a suspension fork, albeit the gravel bike is only 30mm.
I did the push up width method and came up with 760. Feels great and I hit less trees.
Recenly did a bikepacking trip on my gravel bike, and after tens of kms of washboard I decided to buy a suspension stem once I got back home.
Doddy. A man not to be prodded on personal financial matters.....but certainly well worth taking advice from, great show!
What is the product that holds bike tube/tools mounted to the rear bottle cage shown at 13:40 of the video? Looking for something that can hold my tube/pump/levers but don't want a holder that mounts around the seat tube or down tube that could scratch the frame
Comedy. That bike. IS BEAUTIFUL. I had the same drool reaction that you just had when I first saw it.... I think its the most beautiful bike Ive ever seen... Someone pass me a napkin for this drooling problem Im having....
Can't go full top 10 but my favourite brands are Revel, Production Privee and Orange 🤘🤘
I run on my hard tail xc bike 760 with 50mm stem and on my trail bike 770 with 40mm stem. I got to those lengths by trying. I am setting my cockpit separately for every bike,so I think i am quite particular for that
I run 800mm bars on everything, but I run 685 on older Kona's pre 2010 just because that's what I like and I'm used to
Doddy proper agro today. Love it. Fantastic to get stuff off your chest
My last bike was 800 and i clipped a few trees and caused some crashes. I just got my first E-bike since i have bad knees and in my 60’s. It’s a Trek Rail 5. I did not like the stock bars more on making my hands numb. I started stock length 800 with the new ones which felt way too wide on that bike. I cut it twice finally found 760 (770 with lock on grips added) is best for me. I’m 5’11”. I live in north Georgia USA. Very hilly and mountains with lots of trees and twist are most of our trails.
800 all day long, I used to ride 780, but once I tried 800, I love them!
Remember that shoulder width plays a crucial role in a comfortable bar width. 170cm tall with wide shoulders and short arms. Bike came with 760mm bars and I noticed I was naturally holding the ends of the grips. Switched to 780mm and now hold the grips where I should. Tried 800mm but gave me pains
I’m running 800 wide. I’m playing around with widths so I can always come down in size from where I’m at, but so far feels good
I just got nukeproof short stem an riser bars for less than 40 quid, nice 👍
Having spent time during those crazy times where we all ran our bars as narrow as possible, I jumped on the first bendy wide bar that came out, still narrow compared to today's offerings.
My body has odd lengths, and since my spine surgery bends very differently, so I've been fiddling with my cockpit each week for a year.
I really thought going shorter would work for me, it's what I'm used to riding, so I've tried everything from 750 to 800 with various rises. Last month I popped the grips out 10mm so 820. My brain says it's too wide, my body says it's perfect. Time to buy a new bar then!
I run 780 bars on my 2018 Norco sight A3. I first test rode a similar bike with the same bar width and it just felt naturally comfortable for me. I have slightly longish arms and short torso and slightly long legs too plus I'm 170 cm tall.
run 700 on my hardtail and 720 on full suspension, feels absolutely perfect for me. I ride the hardtail on slightly tighter courses, so each bike serves it purpose.
I should mention, both are xc.
We had a Bugaboo pram and we may have paid a lot of money for it but it did last three kids and we did sell it all the parts are available it was fantastic never had a problem with it never broke down never had anything go wrong was this amazing
5,8 tall , 720 on a new Specialised Hardtail, feels perfect, old Orange p7 is 650....The wider feels better but then the whole geo is different too.
740mm because that is what the bike came with from the store! At 6'0" these feel about right for my XC/urban mix.
The Joy of Bike channel has a good video on determining the correct bar width for you.
I am glad Doddy is standing up for the high priced bikes. No one on GMBN ever said you are not good enough if you dont own a $10,000+ bike. In fact the Yeti that Doddy built has some components on it that were not the most high end price wise. But he felt that is what would work best. If people can afford and want an expensive bike, it is good the bike market has an option for that. but on the flip side there are a ton of $2000 crazy good hard tails out there. and GMBN sows a great variety of bikes in all sorts of price ranges. Take Blake for example, he rides his Scout all the time!
On 26-er a had 580mm low rise bars on my scott scale xc bike, it was great, niw a ride 29-er with 740mm wide flat bars and i have shoulder and scapulas pain in my back, i am definitely going back to something around 700mm
I'm new to riding trails and jumps. Mine are 820 as standard. I feel more comfortable with wider bars as landing off s jump or drop feels more stable.
How tall are you
6"4
I currently run 780mm as it came from the factory that way :D
However I'm considering going a bit narrower to 760mm.
710 for me, lots of trees to avoid. It thats what’s comfortable for me. I lopped of the 10cm from the stock bar because I like my hand to overhang the grip a little bit.
My hardtail was born with a relatively wide handlebar. I got the bike in 2012, and had a 740 mm bar... It don't need a wider bar, but mayby a shorter stem...
I run 770 (48 rise) on my dh (im 6’4) and 735 (60 rise) on my dj, i’ve tried whider and smaller on both bikes, lm debating on going smaller on my dh, but i like how it feels now
Usually I get a pare of reallly old grips that can slide all the way on the bar with no stopper. and then just slide them around on the bars with no breaks or anything on them. Do a bunny hop, maybe do one or two of those "warm up your tires while going down a straight ride" kind of turns, Move them around again if needed. Then just mark out where they feel good. I found that even having higher rise bars made me want to cut them shorter or lower rise bars making them longer. I even had a set of the same shape bars with different like tube size? And had to cut them different too. This was all for BMX tho. I'm brand new to MTB'ing so I'm not sure if it overlaps at all.
5'-10" here, and with 780mm bars, I noticed my hands still migrated to the ends of the bars. Currently running 800mm bars and they seem most comfortable.
Alarms. I got a pretty basic and cheap (15-20 quid) one last year and it's great for peace of mind when my bike is locked up outside a shop. It's loud (adjustable), vibration sensitive (adjustable), and comes with a key fob like a car.
You still need a lock. But I reckon an alarm is a good investment.
What make/model please
I’m 6’10 and I ride a double xl spire from transition and my bars are at 800mm but when I ride bike park I switch to a 820mm
6’10”!
I was thinking about getting an xxl Spire and I’m 6’5”. Maybe the xl would fit better
Yeah I got the xxl because it had 535mm reach
My dad is 6’5 and I would put him on a xl
@Andrew Dodd I really did struggle with bike fit for a long time before my spire I had a 2017 canyon spectral xl which is ironically about the same size as my current dj bike
Top brands of bike in my opinion are definitely Santa Cruz and Kona, I got into Kona because of the Kona clump team freeride, slopestyle scene back in 2009 when Andreu Lacondecguy and Fabien Barrel were on the team; but also I ride Kona because of the childhood memories as my Dad had a Kona Stab in 2008, a Kona Hoss 2005 (bought in 2008) and it was cool seeing all the stuff he sent on them. I like Santa Cruz because of the VPP and they look mega cool and they ride great.
Running a set of the Surly Sunrise 38 mil riser bars straight out of the box so I guess 800mm but I sit up right on my big Trek Verve XL
My mtb from the 90-s has 560mm bar. I just cut down my canyon bar from 790 to 750 and its better for me. Probably even narrower would be fine. During the 90s the 560 was good.
Lol, I've just been running 560 on an ol' Gary Fisher for the last 25yrs...going to 740 recently felt so different
cheap brand - trek
solid brand - santa cruz
ovber the top - canfeild
800 mill bars for me, i like the minute control u can have on the tips
I’ve been using RideLogic formula handlebar width in millimeters:
If you’re male, multiply your height in millimeters by 0.440.
If you’re female, multiply your height in millimeters by 0.426.
Works great for ballpark new riders or each year when kids get bigger.
Personally I’m 5’10 and I run 770 on a fatbike, 760 on Party Hardtail, and the same on my xc bike but I’m planning on trying 740, as It a nice experiment and I think it might decrease some hand fatigue on big epic, look forward to finding out
I'm 6 - 2 and I run 800m perfect for me normally but I did hook my bars at high speed and had a massive crash on this particular trail that has a couple of tight tree gaps ! Love them normally though.
I keep hearing those air tag style devices are easy to "sniff" out by thieves with the right app on their phones. Doddy, sorry you got sick. Take care of that beautiful brain of yours. We need it. Thanks
I just put a set of Fasst Flexx bars on my bike and they're still at their as-shipped 800mm width. I need to start trimming them down. I'm thinking 760 is probably where I'll want to be. That Scout alarm is slick.... their website says out of stock (of course) and it's $94 (Australian). Not sure if they're available anywhere in the US, but at that price I'm in no hurry to get one.
Im 5.7 and was running 740 on my old Bronson v2 for many years, but just recently went to 780 on a Bronson v4, after a few months it felt to wide so have just cut down to 760, i will give that some time, i may even go to 750, but will see after some time.
I put some Ergon GP2 grips on my Brompton. Has a small ‘bar end’ . Maybe Ergon could make a prober MTB version 👍
I found like for trail use 760mm is great. But for 200km XCM I was to put 680mm due to pain somewhere in the middle of my back after 4+ hour riding. So it depends. I'd go for 720mm maybe. I'm 5'9 or 176cm.
Running a gravel bike #Ninerbike RLT9 with a carbon fiber fork. It's a great ride !
I used to have Magura rim brakes on my Ridgeback back in the early 90s! Now i'm thinking if i should buy the latest their latest brake disc system or make my dream come true with XT brakes!
anyone know if that knog can be used under a fidlock mount?
washboards on gravel roads in Colorado are brutal! only reason I'd go suspension fork over rigid. it's terrifying having to have a loose grip on the bars to keep your teeth from chattering out of your mouth but then also needing to clamp down on the brakes to avoid flying off the side of a mountain... especially on mile 50 if an endurance ride
720 for me. I'm 5'8", 74 YO, and ride a lot of tight blue trails in Florida. I don't do real fast anything, especially downhills, and anything wider hurts my arms!