Thanks so much AGAIN for your work. As an older guy…. It’s hard to find time to play and every bit helps. I’ve used a lot of your content and am so grateful for your work. The bunny hop, the sets you name it. Thanks Crux.
Considering that you're like the second big ESO content creator today to post a Vate/Maaselok/Master's Dual Wield Stam Sorc after seeing how sick of this meta build everyone is, I'm going to assume you're trolling just to make a point.
@@callumterblanche1491 thats the point, it's a garbage meta Era. I deconed those sets because it's simply too ez. Brainless idiots can pick it up and just spam rending slashes whilst keeping vateshran up and kill good players. Can't wait for the day when it gets nerfed to shit so players can expand different builds again.
All im saying... dont get thrive in chaos nerfed. Duelwield ult has been slept on so much. I cant tell you how many pug groups ive wiped with it. It has had rough patches but its been so good
I don't have all the sets, but the skillset with maarselok is great - running it with coral riptide and Phoenix Moth Theurge and it hits hard. Had a good time in DM BGs this weekend!
I wish i could get this comment to all eso creators! Its not so much the build i enjoy, its listening to how you ended up there. What else did you test? What worked and what didn't? Why did you go with the choices you did? Plus the explanation on how it plays, strengths and weaknesses, etc. Engaging with the theory crafting is a lot of fun for me.
Also give this exact set up a try but swap out armor to briar heart. That extra 450 weapon/spelm damage is more healing plus more crit heals ontop of all that.
@@HoarcruxI honestly stopped running this stuff as well as Draugrkin etc because it didn't feel like playing "my warden". Running acuity/rallying now and having a ton of fun.
I really like the longer build videos man. I appreciate the in depth looks! Idk if you remember me but I’m the guy that’s trying to make mag sorc work but it’s time just switch back to stam lmao
@@Hoarcrux I wonder if I could run imperial or Breton and get the missing weapon/spell from somewhere else from losing dark elf passive.🤔 seems like dark elf is probably the better choice tho
Just testet pale order with combat metrics. it does not proc from status effects and procs. It does not proc from ele drain or wrath of the elements. It does proc from direct dmg and it does proc from the bloodcraze dot, so i assume it does proc from dots that you inflict by abilities.
Love the build! Just curious though.. only 3 of your 10 skills use stamina, so wouldn’t this be considered a magicka build? Also, would Orders Wrath work in place of Rallying? “More Crit, more damage”.
Very nice mate! I want to keep my sorc flexible because i switch between magicka and stamina sorc.. Now which race perform better in pvp dark elf or khajiit which one you recommend?
I am using a similar build, with 5x Dragons appetite and 5x shattered fate, with death dealer's fete, would you say your build is better ? should i swap set pieces ? thanks
I'm playing a mag sorc high elf for 5 years now and ive come to the opinion that mag sorc high elf is weak af or im doing something very wrong i dunno, ive tried everything, mythic items, complete heal back bars, monster sets literally everything and nothing works..... As soon as some dk, nightblade, warden, tempalr or any other melee toon starts slashing at me im dead within 3 sec no matter how many heals or buffs i got on me and its strange because my stats look pretty good 🙄🤷♂
Hello... I have a question about this... Almost all skills are magicka skills, and we are going for stamina.. Can you explain that to me, or am i wrong here? :)
Ayy! MLG build here... Nice work mate. Kinda wanna make loads of email addresses and report this build ( Video ) and spam report it, so no one else can know about this build and gets taken down😅😅 joke!!!! Wicked build mate, will be making it as fast a possibly can today.
I think you would have better odds of running a front bar/backbar setup instead. Stuhns Dswing on front bar and rallying cry back bar with monster and mythic
I used engine guardian, was surprisingly good just for how much damage it eats and you can make use of any resource you get. I also tried bloodspawn and 2 one pieces for recovery, each had their own benefits.
A content creator who runs Master, Vateshran, Maarselok and Rallying Cry. God this meta is so boring. Nothing new anymore. Can't wait for your NEW BROKEN ______ BUILD U40. Running Master, Vate, Maarselok and Rallying Cry.
Why? 66 is 1% crit mitigation. 1650= 25%. Compare tooltip sturdy horn: "...You and your allies gain 1320 Critical Resistance for 10 seconds, reducing incoming Critical Damage by 20%." Im running and experimenting with this build since some time too, in the meantime im running orders wrath and no masters + Pariah, no mythic. Pls test Pale order with a log eg metrics, im convinced the heal is only for your direct dmg, no dots etc...
@@Hoarcrux Thx for the answer. If its not aditive its even better. I guess u mean its additive but thats a misconception here. Thats because resistance and crit resistance each go into ONE pool. Because of the formula the more things go into the equation the weaker it gets and thats why stacking resistance is so strong. Crit res i guess even more because there is only ONE pool for crit resistance, you do not add up the single piles...
@@callumterblanche1491 It's quite literally the same since launch, from Uesp: Percentage Reduction = (Critical Resistance / [player level, capped at 66]) The Percentage Reduction is subtracted from the attacker's Critical Damage bonuses. For Example: Without any bonuses to Critical Damage, an attacker would have a 1.5 Critical Damage bonus. If you have a full set of Impenetrable body armor in gold quality, for 258 * 7 = 1806 Critical Resistance, on a CP160+ character this comes out to 1806 / 66 = 27.4% Percentage Reduction. This comes out to (1.5 - 0.274) = 1.226 Critical Damage multiplier for incoming damage. In other words, a 1000 damage hit that would normally do 1500 upon critical strike will now only do 1226 damage upon critical strike to the Resistant target (a 22.3% reduction in incoming damage from that Critical Strike). Critical damage resistance 66 = 1% Critical Damage Reduction.
ever since the DK nerfs when they could solo entire zergs and not die...just couldnt ever kill anyone, stamden and stamsorc are the best for actual survivability and damage output imo just not sure about now since I just came back after a 2.5-3 year break
This build singlehandily saves melee sorc so screw all the people knocking you bro, on dk and Templar I run pure weapon damage builds but all the extra healing this build provides allow stamsorc to actually do work in PvP, thanks.
with update 40 they completely nerfed Warden and made Sorcerer META nothing can compete with Sorcerer it melts everything super fast lol and Warden lost all damage
Swap rally, on dragons petit, she gives more damage and survavebility, don't thanks, and very big trouble on this build it's push 10 buttons one 1 seconds it's needed very good skills, when you have this skills, you don't need a build
This is the problem with the game i have is that content creators push these brainless builds that a toddler could play and they reach majority of the community to qhere if you arent running it you are being punished. You are better than this and have to set an example.
I gotta agree with crux. These brain dead devs, who clearly don't play their own game, have evolved pvp to the state that it's in. We're pretty much forced to run meta sets, either that or get farmed by people who are.
Lmao yeah you can kill trash bots with the build. Yet its weak af. Just like stam sorc is. You wont even survive 15 secs against decent players w the build unless you streak away...
Yes thrive of chaos has been known by a lot of players for a while a now as the dmg increase looks great on paper people tend to forget the ultimate also says it increases the dmg for the duration! Now if somone cleanses the dot from the ulti that dmg buff you get is also removed from you because the ulti has to be up since its duration based. Pretty sure this was tested a long time ago. 😅
@@Hoarcrux that is true, but it has a cap of 6 ppl, if there's a healer there pretty sure they r dropping purge or some sort of cleanse, or maybe the other players have a personal cleanse. But if they don't you'll absolutely destroy them 😄
May be a very meta build that majority are running but this is the best explanation of how to use it , nice one 👏
I tried to put my own spin on it. I'll keep trying to improve
Thanks so much AGAIN for your work. As an older guy…. It’s hard to find time to play and every bit helps. I’ve used a lot of your content and am so grateful for your work. The bunny hop, the sets you name it. Thanks Crux.
Considering that you're like the second big ESO content creator today to post a Vate/Maaselok/Master's Dual Wield Stam Sorc after seeing how sick of this meta build everyone is, I'm going to assume you're trolling just to make a point.
Nah just everyone asking how I set it up different so I figured I'd make a detailed video so I stopped getting asked haha
It's not about the sets it's how he explains things don't be so negative 😊
@Hoarcrux is it going to work with 1 bar?
ESO 2025 Guys this new build is the craziest build ever no1 ever saw before! So we start with master dw....
Tis the formula....
Lmfao IKR?! Like nobody is original anymore this shit and vateshran on every build is getting annoying 😂
@@ohshiii6310because it's meta and it works
@@callumterblanche1491 thats the point, it's a garbage meta Era. I deconed those sets because it's simply too ez. Brainless idiots can pick it up and just spam rending slashes whilst keeping vateshran up and kill good players. Can't wait for the day when it gets nerfed to shit so players can expand different builds again.
@@ohshiii6310 so just play no cp and bo proc sets version of cyrodiil instead of crying about it
Never played a sorc in pvp. Very glad to come across your vid. Great job!
All im saying... dont get thrive in chaos nerfed. Duelwield ult has been slept on so much. I cant tell you how many pug groups ive wiped with it. It has had rough patches but its been so good
I don't have all the sets, but the skillset with maarselok is great - running it with coral riptide and Phoenix Moth Theurge and it hits hard. Had a good time in DM BGs this weekend!
A good offense is the best defense* in the case of high damage /pale order
Seriously looks so nice. I'm always in BGs, so lacking defensive cp, sustain, and of course - pale order. Jealous!
Hey, look who' back to ESO and rocking a cool new build. Time to farm that mace again from vDSA, dang thing refuses to drop :D
It took me like 12 runs so I feel ya lol
I wish i could get this comment to all eso creators!
Its not so much the build i enjoy, its listening to how you ended up there. What else did you test? What worked and what didn't? Why did you go with the choices you did? Plus the explanation on how it plays, strengths and weaknesses, etc.
Engaging with the theory crafting is a lot of fun for me.
Duly noted for next time!
@@Hoarcrux Hell yeah man! Btw I think you already explain more, just saying that's my favorite part. Didn't mean to sound critical if I did!
Also give this exact set up a try but swap out armor to briar heart. That extra 450 weapon/spelm damage is more healing plus more crit heals ontop of all that.
Hey, that's what i used to run. Very underrated set. Briarheart i mean.
I feel like this set up of sets is its own class in ESO. They work on every class and have made build diversity shit.
You are 100% correct. I feel like no other class can run them better than sorc tho
@@HoarcruxI honestly stopped running this stuff as well as Draugrkin etc because it didn't feel like playing "my warden". Running acuity/rallying now and having a ton of fun.
I really like the longer build videos man. I appreciate the in depth looks! Idk if you remember me but I’m the guy that’s trying to make mag sorc work but it’s time just switch back to stam lmao
To be fair, most of the skills are mag based, it just requires you to play up close. It honesty feels like a mag sorc
@@Hoarcrux I wonder if I could run imperial or Breton and get the missing weapon/spell from somewhere else from losing dark elf passive.🤔 seems like dark elf is probably the better choice tho
Just testet pale order with combat metrics. it does not proc from status effects and procs. It does not proc from ele drain or wrath of the elements. It does proc from direct dmg and it does proc from the bloodcraze dot, so i assume it does proc from dots that you inflict by abilities.
You are correct with WoE and status effects
Hes done it again and and ANOTHER ONE ..😊😊
What weapon do you suggest now that masters is nerfed?
Love the build! Just curious though.. only 3 of your 10 skills use stamina, so wouldn’t this be considered a magicka build? Also, would Orders Wrath work in place of Rallying? “More Crit, more damage”.
I put all my points into stamina, so stamina it is
Very nice mate!
I want to keep my sorc flexible because i switch between magicka and stamina sorc.. Now which race perform better in pvp dark elf or khajiit which one you recommend?
Kajiit is my all round favorite race atm. Passives so strong
Good video bro ❤
Cheers for the build -- What jewelry traits you runnin on the other rings mate?
All infused
You think shattered fate would be good in place of rallying?
1 person runs a ranged interrupt and rolls with a healer youll be running like every other stam sorc
Is there a written version of this build
Does this still work? Written guide please?
Thought you were quitting
What would you recommend for gear non proc cyro
Please don't talk about nerfing a damage skill. The only thing that needs nerfed in this patch is every heal in the game.
Great video though
How do you check the target ogrim on how much damage you did
I do wonder whats the build on this (meta) sorc hmmmmm
I am using a similar build, with 5x Dragons appetite and 5x shattered fate, with death dealer's fete, would you say your build is better ? should i swap set pieces ? thanks
You're build may actually work better in some circumstances
I'm playing a mag sorc high elf for 5 years now and ive come to the opinion that mag sorc high elf is weak af or im doing something very wrong i dunno, ive tried everything, mythic items, complete heal back bars, monster sets literally everything and nothing works..... As soon as some dk, nightblade, warden, tempalr or any other melee toon starts slashing at me im dead within 3 sec no matter how many heals or buffs i got on me and its strange because my stats look pretty good 🙄🤷♂
I would love to try this build, but the RNG God's are always made at me. LoL🤣
you never did show the trait and enchant on the Rally amulet and ring. is it 3x bloodthirsty with damage glyph ?
All infused weapon damage
How can I adopt this for BGs? I'm not much into cyrodil
Hello... I have a question about this...
Almost all skills are magicka skills, and we are going for stamina.. Can you explain that to me, or am i wrong here? :)
Since your spammable skill is stamina, it's better to put your points into stamina.
Ayy! MLG build here... Nice work mate. Kinda wanna make loads of email addresses and report this build ( Video ) and spam report it, so no one else can know about this build and gets taken down😅😅 joke!!!! Wicked build mate, will be making it as fast a possibly can today.
Lmao I appreciate the honesty
I don’t understand where your resistances are coming from.
With the exact same build I’ll be on around 27k and 25k resistances on my backbar
Do you have 3 heavy reinforced wirh the fortified CP passive?
@@Hoarcrux ah it would be the CP, I’m 90% of the time in no CP so I tend to skip that part 😅
What’s your opinion on using this build with a StamDen?
I think you would have better odds of running a front bar/backbar setup instead. Stuhns Dswing on front bar and rallying cry back bar with monster and mythic
@@Hoarcrux what monster and mythic would you suggest
@@Hoarcrux also what would you change for BGs?
Hey can you make something broken for the nécro please ? You are the only one i follow 🤘
Bro... the necro is like the red-headed stepchild of eso. With the new sets come out, then maybe haha
I hope so i'm thinking about coming back
With Endless Archive about to release, it would be a good time to
Do you think instead of rallying cry i could run dragons appetite?
Also a good set. Marars, DA, ET, it's all decent
Wat monster helms would I do if I can’t get marseloks?
Do Balrog cause that will pair very well with Thrive on Chaos
@@Hoarcrux I also don’t have Borlaug 😭
Use anytging
Zaans it is!
I used engine guardian, was surprisingly good just for how much damage it eats and you can make use of any resource you get.
I also tried bloodspawn and 2 one pieces for recovery, each had their own benefits.
Arrr Hoarxy you the best m8 to me the #1 eso conent creator much love from austria!!
Cheers to the land down under 🍻!
If Kajiit would axes be better or stick with maces?
Maces are just more reliable. Axes are fine with a high crit chance
Aun funciona y en realidad es facil de jugarla ?
Oh man I’m late to the party
All it takes is one Templar to completely void the DW ult
No execute to spam?
Hist sap any good?
A content creator who runs Master, Vateshran, Maarselok and Rallying Cry. God this meta is so boring. Nothing new anymore. Can't wait for your NEW BROKEN ______ BUILD U40. Running Master, Vate, Maarselok and Rallying Cry.
It’s Ernest P….
Impen don’t work?
Just cause u made this zos is gonna snipe this entire playstyle. WATCH
Vampire stage 2 or 3? Think you said 3 but in video your on 2?
3
Vamp how’s the sustain?
Bro we worked ya hard on this build lol you really need to stop tellin fools you are "META" you are just getting them killed lol
They will be alright lol
Dang what if don’t have pale order
Can I use a high elf for this?
Yea high elf is still fine
Im going to make an anti-sorc build and zerg you down with it
Snakes in the Stars Incoming
You remind me of Chester Bennington and now I have a small crush
R.I.P. Chester.... an absolute fucking LEGENDDDD
Nightblade bomber
My stamsorc is breton 😅😅😅😅😅 wtf hahahah mistake i gotta remake my charactet 😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊
Im missing classic magsorc in pvp and all the magic classes in pve, with no hybrid or stupid 1bar/ha builds...
BUGATTI SORC
REEEEEEEEEE
ok 😮 good sh*t
Why? 66 is 1% crit mitigation. 1650= 25%. Compare tooltip sturdy horn: "...You and your allies gain 1320 Critical Resistance for 10 seconds, reducing incoming Critical Damage by 20%." Im running and experimenting with this build since some time too, in the meantime im running orders wrath and no masters + Pariah, no mythic. Pls test Pale order with a log eg metrics, im convinced the heal is only for your direct dmg, no dots etc...
Look at the formula for crit resistance. It is not additive.
@@Hoarcrux Thx for the answer. If its not aditive its even better. I guess u mean its additive but thats a misconception here. Thats because resistance and crit resistance each go into ONE pool. Because of the formula the more things go into the equation the weaker it gets and thats why stacking resistance is so strong. Crit res i guess even more because there is only ONE pool for crit resistance, you do not add up the single piles...
@Hoarcrux what's the formula then send a link
@@callumterblanche1491 It's quite literally the same since launch, from Uesp:
Percentage Reduction = (Critical Resistance / [player level, capped at 66])
The Percentage Reduction is subtracted from the attacker's Critical Damage bonuses.
For Example: Without any bonuses to Critical Damage, an attacker would have a 1.5 Critical Damage bonus. If you have a full set of Impenetrable body armor in gold quality, for 258 * 7 = 1806 Critical Resistance, on a CP160+ character this comes out to 1806 / 66 = 27.4% Percentage Reduction. This comes out to (1.5 - 0.274) = 1.226 Critical Damage multiplier for incoming damage. In other words, a 1000 damage hit that would normally do 1500 upon critical strike will now only do 1226 damage upon critical strike to the Resistant target (a 22.3% reduction in incoming damage from that Critical Strike).
Critical damage resistance 66 = 1% Critical Damage Reduction.
Oeh, time for me orc sorc to shine! 😂
Orc master race!!
What mask is that ?
Grim Harlequin
@@Hoarcrux thank you
Vamp?
ever since the DK nerfs when they could solo entire zergs and not die...just couldnt ever kill anyone, stamden and stamsorc are the best for actual survivability and damage output imo just not sure about now since I just came back after a 2.5-3 year break
if the rallying cry switch to dragon's appetite, this build still work on it?
Yea you can run appetite, maras, way of fire, rallying cry and essence thief would be my too suggestions
@@Hoarcrux im even thinking about serpent's disdain...
Dragon appetite heal doesn’t proc if you have pale order on you bobs 😂 known bug
@@ttv_damo_tk872really???
@@ttv_damo_tk872I be running dragon and pale lol
Thumbs down for suggesting a nerf 👎. You want nerfs and changes because it gives you something to post about. Self serving… You need Toxic ZOS.
Running vamp stage 3 Damm no sustain lol
Sorc gang 🤧
Sorc gang gang!
Promise, this is the last Vate, Masters, Marselok Build, PLEASE!!! Boring af 😢
With Endless archive I sure as shit hope so
OP build until i hit you with a 40k snake in the stars 😂 also no purge ?
Snakes does hurt with pale order and yea I didn't feel like I needed to run cleansing revival
@@Hoarcrux i think thats the only 2 weaknesses of this build 💪
This build singlehandily saves melee sorc so screw all the people knocking you bro, on dk and Templar I run pure weapon damage builds but all the extra healing this build provides allow stamsorc to actually do work in PvP, thanks.
Hey can you tell me the name the of your outfit Mask 🙂
It’s Grim Harlequin. Trinimac looks similar though if you don’t have it.
@@Masheen thank you ❤️
Yes thank you!
Idk man nightblade might be better
Whats the drip?
The good pieces are grim Harlequin and assassins league. I use like 3 other styles but I can't recall them off hand
@@Hoarcrux thx bruh
You finally got your nerf through to the devs for cleansing revival CP. Next patch its coming.
Lmao they still fucked it up. Cleansing revival is still bugged. When you even look at someone below 25%, it cleanses you rofl
with update 40 they completely nerfed Warden and made Sorcerer META nothing can compete with Sorcerer it melts everything super fast lol and Warden lost all damage
*😤prodictive messaging is gay and don't like me
looks sqishy af
Swap rally, on dragons petit, she gives more damage and survavebility, don't thanks, and very big trouble on this build it's push 10 buttons one 1 seconds it's needed very good skills, when you have this skills, you don't need a build
This is the problem with the game i have is that content creators push these brainless builds that a toddler could play and they reach majority of the community to qhere if you arent running it you are being punished. You are better than this and have to set an example.
As a solo player, you just have to in order to see any results. Non meta builds simply do not work solo
I gotta agree with crux. These brain dead devs, who clearly don't play their own game, have evolved pvp to the state that it's in. We're pretty much forced to run meta sets, either that or get farmed by people who are.
Get that ring off your lip
Lmao yeah you can kill trash bots with the build. Yet its weak af. Just like stam sorc is. You wont even survive 15 secs against decent players w the build unless you streak away...
Spoken like a true, potato zergling 🤣
Stop cheese proc meta! Pale order is a shitty mythic anyway....
Well yea, if you're never solo
Very meta... very boring.
no shot this guy had a gf black nails lip piercing imma jus stop here b4 feelings are busted💀
That's exactly how I got in your mom's DMs! Imma stop here cause she told me not to mention your micro peen 😎
Petulant child 🤡
Yes thrive of chaos has been known by a lot of players for a while a now as the dmg increase looks great on paper people tend to forget the ultimate also says it increases the dmg for the duration! Now if somone cleanses the dot from the ulti that dmg buff you get is also removed from you because the ulti has to be up since its duration based. Pretty sure this was tested a long time ago. 😅
If you're hitting like 10 ppl with it, it's gonna be up lol
@@Hoarcrux that is true, but it has a cap of 6 ppl, if there's a healer there pretty sure they r dropping purge or some sort of cleanse, or maybe the other players have a personal cleanse. But if they don't you'll absolutely destroy them 😄
How long till u quit eso for the 11th time?
Give it a month