Good to see the technology for bleeding hasn't changed over the years. Loved using HS33 for my trials and now going to be getting MT7 Pro's for my off-road eBike! Excellent tutorial!
I wouldn't bother with the "clip it into a Magura transport device" when inserting the support sleeve, too easy to squeeze too hard and damage the tubing (which I just did, and I wasn't being overly aggressive); wear gloves and that will generate enough friction to hold it, and just be cautious. Fortunately I had enough slack remaining that I could just cut the hose again.
at 0:53 the video states "so that the tubing lies flush with the master." But don't you mean that one should put enough oil into the master so that the oil is flush with the lip of the master? That is what is shown.... Thanks.
Probably most of us (customers) are switching from a pre-existing brake to a Magura. When installing the back brake in bikes with internal cabling it is useful to use the existing hose to pull the new hose. In the past I had a dropper post that came with a two-sided screw, which one would screw at one side in the old hose, and in the new hose at the other side, connecting them, and allowing to pull the new hose in while pulling the old hose out. Does anyone know how this screw is called and where to buy it?
Hi, in the paper manual, before turning the brake lever vertically, there's a step that is missing in the video: 'Carefully press brake pads apart to the stop with transport device ora a wide screwdriver'. Is this step mandatory?
Hi, thanks for the video. Question: I accidentally touched the lever down about 0.5cm /1cm when the cable was cut. In the video it said it was important that leaver I did not move. What should I be on the lookout for?
Sorry i know i'm late As long as no oil came out of the system you should be good, if oil did come out of the system you just need to make sure to get all the air bubbles out
What's the bit called that you're using on the torque driver to torque the sleeve nut to 4Nm? I've been searching like crazy but I can't find anything like it.
Hi, thanks for the comment! Yes, this unfortunately isn't a common tool. We call it SW8,0 - we sell it as an adapter blade for the wiha 4Nm torque driver. You can use a crowfoot adapter for a normal torque wrench instead, but keep in mind that the leverage might change the torque setting you need, so it's important to follow the instructions of the crowfoot adapter manufacturer and torque wrench manufacturer accordingly when using a crowfoot adapter.
Thanks for the question! That's our SW08 4Nm torque driver, which is available via our dealership partners. You can alternatively use a conventional torque wrench with a crowfoot adapter.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople inconsistent language.. the English that is spoken in the video calls it a support sleeve while you call it an insert pin here. Just FYI.
We have a 4 Nm torque driver by Wiha with a SW 8,0 adapter for the sleeve nut that is available to our dealership partners that you could order via one of them: magura.com/en/EUR/dealer-search The product number is 2701485 . Alternatively, you can use a regular torque wrench with a crowfoot adapter. Just make sure to take into account the change in effective torque caused by the crowfoot adapter.
Yes, a bag of small parts such as spare olives and insert pins are included with a new brake. In order to shorten the tubes you will also need a hose cutter and appropriate service kit with our Royal Blood mineral oil, if you need to bleed the system afterwards.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople I bought the MT Trail Sports and had no issues with the tube shortening. The front brake runs on a 160 mm Storm SL disk and bites less than a first gen MT4 on a 180 mm identical rotor. What pads do the brakes come with from the factory and what pads do you recommend for a bit more power on the front? I do not want to go 180mm with the rotor. PS: besides this brakes, we use a 2007 Louise and a 2014 MT4; both still work like new after lots of abuse in mountain biking and bike-packing, including traversing salt flats in the Andes and even using sewing machine oil to bleed them since we had no other better options in the out backs of Bolivia . I can't testify about the newer models, but those older ones were really durable. I think that Louise was pretty hard to beat back in the day, so much power and modulation, really impressive for that era.
Do Magura sell a dedicated kit with the necessary olives & pin? I have recently purchased an MT2 disc brake set and it didn’t come with any spares, and my front brake hose is mega long!!
Thanks for the question! We do sell a service kit which comes with everything you need apart from the hose cutter. It's available via our dealersip partners.
Hi, yes it's the same procedure when doing internal routing. ...of course connecting the hose back to the master only after routing it through the frame. A plug can help prevent oil loss and oil spilling within the frame, but isn't necessary per se. You will most likely need to bleed the brake afterwards anyways.
Most likely, yes, although there is a way to minimize oil loss. Our recommendation is to simply check the bite point after cutting the hose to check if a bleed is necessary.
Hi, thanks for the question! Yes, our colored rings can also be used with the MT5 Fabio Wibmer. It is however not possible to replace the gold caliper cap that's screwed into the caliper.
Looking at some MT Trail Sport brakes (like everyone else). Do I need to bleed the system on a new set when shortening the tube? What kind of kit should I have on hand and what kind of stoppers come in the stock kit? Do they have blocks like the transport devices when you buy them new?
Hi, thanks for your comment! There's a chance that you might be able to shorten the hose without needing a bleed afterwards, but it's likely that you will need to bleed it. For that you will need one of our bleed kits. Our brakes come with the yellow transport devices which should be the only thing used as bleed blocks when bleeding.
You can probably get a similar plug at an auto shop. It looks like an underbody trim clip piece. They also sell cover/caps that are used in the same manner, but go over tubing instead of inside the tube. It should keep the dirt out and the oil in.
Honestly don’t get why they give you that much extra long cable. I have a canyon sender in XL and it’s by far the longest bike I have ever had and these cables are still way to long from standard
Hi, thanks for the comment! Yes, this video is also applicaple to the MT5e. If you have any legally relevant questions in the context of replacing and modifying parts on S-Pedelecs in general, we would recommend to contact your dealership or the bike manufacturer, as they are your point of contact for legal questions in these contexts.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople Can you give me a link? I can’t find it. And thank you for the reply. All your distributors should be selling these things because it’s pretty much just Guest work and it’s a hard tool to find
@@CEMESTEBAN Unfortunately we can't give you a link since we don't sell directly (apart from the US), but it's available via any dealership that carries our products. It's called "Adapter SW 8,0".
@@MAGURAPassionPeople What's the name for the bit socket one? I have the ComboTorq wrench from Topeak and don't like the maintenance aspect of the clicker torque wrenches, especially in combination of the high price point.
@@Dark__Thoughts that´s the "Wiha Torque Vario" (2701485) together with a 8mm adapter (2701488) for MAGURA tubings. You can order both at your MAGURA dealer.
Good to see the technology for bleeding hasn't changed over the years. Loved using HS33 for my trials and now going to be getting MT7 Pro's for my off-road eBike! Excellent tutorial!
Thanks for this useful video as i am new with magura brakes.😍😍😍
Just got some Magura mt7’s
I wouldn't bother with the "clip it into a Magura transport device" when inserting the support sleeve, too easy to squeeze too hard and damage the tubing (which I just did, and I wasn't being overly aggressive); wear gloves and that will generate enough friction to hold it, and just be cautious. Fortunately I had enough slack remaining that I could just cut the hose again.
Or buy something like the Jagwire Needle Driver tool which presses in the inner barb without the use of hammers.
at 0:53 the video states "so that the tubing lies flush with the master." But don't you mean that one should put enough oil into the master so that the oil is flush with the lip of the master? That is what is shown.... Thanks.
You are absolutely correct, thanks for the tip! We apologize for the error!
Sounds like Troy McClure from the Simpons
thank you very much
Probably most of us (customers) are switching from a pre-existing brake to a Magura. When installing the back brake in bikes with internal cabling it is useful to use the existing hose to pull the new hose. In the past I had a dropper post that came with a two-sided screw, which one would screw at one side in the old hose, and in the new hose at the other side, connecting them, and allowing to pull the new hose in while pulling the old hose out. Does anyone know how this screw is called and where to buy it?
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Hi, in the paper manual, before turning the brake lever vertically, there's a step that is missing in the video: 'Carefully press brake pads apart to the stop with transport device ora a wide screwdriver'. Is this step mandatory?
Hi, thanks for the video. Question: I accidentally touched the lever down about 0.5cm /1cm when the cable was cut. In the video it said it was important that leaver I did not move. What should I be on the lookout for?
Sorry i know i'm late
As long as no oil came out of the system you should be good, if oil did come out of the system you just need to make sure to get all the air bubbles out
thx
What's the bit called that you're using on the torque driver to torque the sleeve nut to 4Nm? I've been searching like crazy but I can't find anything like it.
Hi, thanks for the comment! Yes, this unfortunately isn't a common tool. We call it SW8,0 - we sell it as an adapter blade for the wiha 4Nm torque driver. You can use a crowfoot adapter for a normal torque wrench instead, but keep in mind that the leverage might change the torque setting you need, so it's important to follow the instructions of the crowfoot adapter manufacturer and torque wrench manufacturer accordingly when using a crowfoot adapter.
what is this dynamometric tool?
Hi, what is the name or model of the last tool used to give the final torque, towards the end of this video?
Thanks for the question! That's our SW08 4Nm torque driver, which is available via our dealership partners. You can alternatively use a conventional torque wrench with a crowfoot adapter.
When shortening the hose on a brand new set of brakes can you reuse the support sleeve that was installed?
The sleeve nut can be reused, the insert pin and olive need to be replaced.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople inconsistent language.. the English that is spoken in the video calls it a support sleeve while you call it an insert pin here. Just FYI.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople does a new set of brakes come with a spare insert pin / olive or do they need to be ordered separately?
@@aborsic Yes! New MT brakes come with a small bag of spare parts, which also includes spare insert pins and olives.
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Question for you
Can I use Magura Caliper in a road bike ?
Is there a name for the specific torque wrench tool you use for the compression nut 🤔
We have a 4 Nm torque driver by Wiha with a SW 8,0 adapter for the sleeve nut that is available to our dealership partners that you could order via one of them: magura.com/en/EUR/dealer-search The product number is 2701485 .
Alternatively, you can use a regular torque wrench with a crowfoot adapter. Just make sure to take into account the change in effective torque caused by the crowfoot adapter.
Do the brakes come with the plug?
Why was there no support sleeve on the piece you pulled out? Can the original olive etc be reused?
Olive and insert pin need to be replaced, they can not be reused. Where did we pull it out without a support sleeve?
@@MAGURAPassionPeople At the 00:53 mark I could not see it on the end. Thanks My lines are way to long an have wanted to do this for over a year.
@@paulb9769 That's true, quite odd they did a jump cut, it must've been there, that's how it seals.
Currently i don’t have torque wrench for the bolt. Can i just used the open wrench? And how i will know when to stop to wrench?
Please use a torque wrench. There's no way to tell when to stop with a normal open wrench, which is the reason why we recommend using a torque wrench.
Hi there, is this some sort of magura specific sealing plug at 0:29 ?
Yes, every MAGURA brake comes with this plug.
Hi, after cutting the hose, no need to bleed again?
Depends. Please always check the bite point after the procedure in order to check whether a bleed is necessary.
Are there included in the box the olive and insert necessary to shorten the tubes? I want to buy a pair of MT Trail Sport.
Yes, a bag of small parts such as spare olives and insert pins are included with a new brake.
In order to shorten the tubes you will also need a hose cutter and appropriate service kit with our Royal Blood mineral oil, if you need to bleed the system afterwards.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople I bought the MT Trail Sports and had no issues with the tube shortening.
The front brake runs on a 160 mm Storm SL disk and bites less than a first gen MT4 on a 180 mm identical rotor. What pads do the brakes come with from the factory and what pads do you recommend for a bit more power on the front? I do not want to go 180mm with the rotor.
PS: besides this brakes, we use a 2007 Louise and a 2014 MT4; both still work like new after lots of abuse in mountain biking and bike-packing, including traversing salt flats in the Andes and even using sewing machine oil to bleed them since we had no other better options in the out backs of Bolivia . I can't testify about the newer models, but those older ones were really durable.
I think that Louise was pretty hard to beat back in the day, so much power and modulation, really impressive for that era.
Do Magura sell a dedicated kit with the necessary olives & pin? I have recently purchased an MT2 disc brake set and it didn’t come with any spares, and my front brake hose is mega long!!
Thanks for the question! We do sell a service kit which comes with everything you need apart from the hose cutter. It's available via our dealersip partners.
Thank you.
Hi, It is the same procedure to do a internal routing? Do I need the plug?
Hi, yes it's the same procedure when doing internal routing. ...of course connecting the hose back to the master only after routing it through the frame. A plug can help prevent oil loss and oil spilling within the frame, but isn't necessary per se. You will most likely need to bleed the brake afterwards anyways.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople thanks for the info. Very much appreciate
Would you have to bleed the brakes after you cut the hose
Most likely, yes, although there is a way to minimize oil loss. Our recommendation is to simply check the bite point after cutting the hose to check if a bleed is necessary.
Does the support sleeve come with the brakes?
Thanks for the question! Yes, spare mounting hardware for connecting the hose is included with our brakes!
Hi, is magura mt5 by fabio signature can customized the ring? Thanks
Hi, thanks for the question! Yes, our colored rings can also be used with the MT5 Fabio Wibmer. It is however not possible to replace the gold caliper cap that's screwed into the caliper.
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Okay thank you very much sir
Hi, is it okay to put again the used olive ring? Thanks
Don´t use an used olived again. Every MAGURA brake comes with two olives so you should have one spare olive.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople okay sir, thank you very much.
Looking at some MT Trail Sport brakes (like everyone else). Do I need to bleed the system on a new set when shortening the tube? What kind of kit should I have on hand and what kind of stoppers come in the stock kit? Do they have blocks like the transport devices when you buy them new?
Hi, thanks for your comment! There's a chance that you might be able to shorten the hose without needing a bleed afterwards, but it's likely that you will need to bleed it. For that you will need one of our bleed kits. Our brakes come with the yellow transport devices which should be the only thing used as bleed blocks when bleeding.
How my I adquire this PLug? I coudnt get my mt7 installed on my kenevo because the shop said they dont have the dam plug
Help!
You can do it without the plug! Just watch out for any oil that might leak out. Cheers!
You can probably get a similar plug at an auto shop. It looks like an underbody trim clip piece. They also sell cover/caps that are used in the same manner, but go over tubing instead of inside the tube. It should keep the dirt out and the oil in.
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Honestly don’t get why they give you that much extra long cable. I have a canyon sender in XL and it’s by far the longest bike I have ever had and these cables are still way to long from standard
Tandem bikes?
Hi, is this tutorial good for mt5e ?
Yes
Hi, thanks for the comment! Yes, this video is also applicaple to the MT5e.
If you have any legally relevant questions in the context of replacing and modifying parts on S-Pedelecs in general, we would recommend to contact your dealership or the bike manufacturer, as they are your point of contact for legal questions in these contexts.
where do you get that 8mm socket tor torque
Hi, we have an adapter for a bit socket for that use case, or a crowfoot adapter for a torque wrench can be used.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople Can you give me a link? I can’t find it. And thank you for the reply. All your distributors should be selling these things because it’s pretty much just Guest work and it’s a hard tool to find
@@CEMESTEBAN Unfortunately we can't give you a link since we don't sell directly (apart from the US), but it's available via any dealership that carries our products. It's called "Adapter SW 8,0".
@@MAGURAPassionPeople What's the name for the bit socket one? I have the ComboTorq wrench from Topeak and don't like the maintenance aspect of the clicker torque wrenches, especially in combination of the high price point.
@@Dark__Thoughts that´s the "Wiha Torque Vario" (2701485) together with a 8mm adapter (2701488) for MAGURA tubings. You can order both at your MAGURA dealer.
Does the mt2 version have a support sleeve?
Did you mean the silver insert pin? The MT2 does not need an insert pin.
@@MAGURAPassionPeople where do I get the torque wrench and open socket for the union nut
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