Hey Jonathan, Thanks for another great tutorial :-) Two quick additions though: Firstly, you can probably save yourself a lot of hassle by just importing your C4D project into AE directly and then using the Cineware effect (which lets you 'export' the animated camera and any null objects you defined in C4D earlier). Secondly, I was having a really bad time yesterday, making the imported camera animation match the UE render. It was always a bit off and since I had to replace a screen in the render with a video in AE, I needed absolute precision. After a lot of trial and error I realised that you have to... a) ...offset the render and the imported animations by one frame (i.e. the render from UE starts at frame '0', but the camera and null object animations have to start at frame '1'). b) ...go into the 'Advanced' tab underneath the 'Composition Settings' and set the 'Shutter Phase' to -90 degrees, so that the motion blur inside AE matches the motion blur that was rendered inside UE. Once that's done anything that's added inside AE matches the UE animation perfectly (FYI, my entire workflow was based on 25fps). Hope this helps :-)
The reason for the camera to be rotated is due to diffrent axis in diffrent software. C4d axis is Y up but in unreal engine its Z up. So it can be fixed in fbx import or export dialog box, there will be up axis dialog box.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TUTORIAL any graphics artist learning Unreal should watch. You are a true pioneer sir. I had messed with C4d as a throughput , but I never did your GROUP OBJECTS in C4. I always parented to a Null, which somehow didn't work. I am curious if you ever considered pulling in the cinema 4d scene directly into after effects, and then using the included After Effects plug-in to EXTRACT ALL, which places a Camera and lights (and possiblty nulls). I ask, because I think I did that and failed. But I hadn't tried it with the GROUP method. I'll get back to you! Well done!
First thank you for the kind words I really appreciate it 🙏🏾 I don't like importing C4D directly into After Effects it never properly worked for me it always gave me issues before.
Winbush you are a legend with all the content you are pushing out, every time i search something you come up with the solution. Big respect and thanks!
Oh, I also had a camera request from UE for subsequent compositing in Ae by the post-production guys. I also tried in every possible way to export the camera to cinema 4d and it was always in another place, then turned out. My solution was this: export the camera from UE to an FBX file, and then import this fbx into 3ds Max ... and voila! 3ds Max reads exactly the position of the camera and objects that you unload from the sequencer. and then from 3ds Max we again unload to FBX and I already uploaded this file to Cinema 4d and it works!
I've seen people be able to take their UE scenes into Maya as well and it works I'm not sure why we can't get it to translate well for C4D but hopefully it's something Maxon is working on
@@JonathanWinbush I think there is some trick here in the UE exporter. Because Autodesk products are at the heart of all training material for UE, the exporter is written with many preferences for the Autodesk environment
for Maya use the "Maya to AE live Link" Feature to import camera and null information into AE. For Blender there's a Import-Export Adobe After Effects addon to export the camera out of Blender.
winbush this is absolutely incredible, i think this is exactly what ive been looking for, basically i am filming my talent on a green screen with the camera still on a tripod, then im keying it out in fusion > exporting into an EXR > then importing into unreal engine either on an image plane or into composure and then making the camera moves unreal engine, making all my camera movement in the environment around my subject / the image plane then im exporting the cg plate BG and then separately exporting the stencil/media plate layer FG. THEN im compositing it back together in Davinci fusion. its working but im loosing quality in my EXR throughout the process and also loosing control over the color spaces. so what im thinking is now just temporarily adding the pre-keyed exr media into unreal, doing my camera movements, rendering out the cg background then hopefully exporting the scene like you are doing here fbx etc and then creating a compositing 3d scene for fusion and adding the RED raw shots straight into the 3d scene, does that make sense?? ive been looking for someone doing this!! what do you think
Thanks for this. For simple moves like this dolly push this mostly works fine. For anything complex, it's anyone's guess. Some work fine. Some who the hell knows what's going on, objects aren't in the right place in C4D, camera isn't point the right way, etc. Very frustrating process
Yea these days I tend to do use AE as much and do all my work in UE if possible because it's not very intuitive when trying to export camera work outside of UE
@@JonathanWinbush Yes I think what happens is that Cinema4d does not read or input or UE does not export the camera center point, or whatever the camera is set to look at. At least that's what it looks like . Which on an example shot like yours is no problem at all, but mine has lots of circling shots and the camera can really get lost sometimes.
How is this not a plugin yet? :( As a long-time AE artist now being tasked with integrating UE cinematics I was pretty shocked to discover there's no more streamlined workflow for this@@JonathanWinbush
@@JonathanWinbush I had tried it early on and it didn't work for me right out of the gate (c4d middleman was the trick apparently). So I've held off for awhile and doing work arounds, even though you always want that flexibility to roundtrip. Thanks man! Life is good again! :)
@@JonathanWinbush It's true. I have a couple guys too if I can pry them away from what they're doing ;) It would definitely be a nice feature for a quick export camera to all the apps. As always keep up the good work man! Lots of love!
Hey Winbush, So had a fairly complex move I needed to get from Unreal into C4D, it wasn't quite lining up, I tried a lot of different exports. Finally got it after I baked the transform of the camera in UR. I'm not sure why it made a difference? Maybe the curves wouldn't line up..? Either way, something that helped me with that one. Life's good again! ;)
Thanks Winbush - you have been so helpful in my transition into UE from C4d. If anyone is having trouble with the camera being randomly offset (and rotating the axis as in Winbush tutorial) try a different version of Cinema. I was using r19 and no luck. But with R23 bingo - all worked fine. Just thought this would be useful to share. Cheers
hi thanks for tutorial can make video tutorial for import tracking of after effect or mocha pro to unreal engine and can use track to match by unral engine thanks
@@JonathanWinbush i mean to create a spotlight for my scene in UE then i take the 3d informations like camera and then create a new spotlight to AE and attach it to the 3d infos from C4D to have the same lights effects in new objects (example Logo). i dont know if makes sense :) anyway great tutorial
@@shadowrns yea I understand but I've not tried it as I'm normally going from C4D to UE so I havent had much of a need to go the opposite so I personally haven't tried
You are a Pixel GOD my friend. I tried everything and it never seemed to work until I saw this Video. If they say what you give out you receive back double, hen you wil definitely get abd an easy tiple. I am looking forward to seeing more.
@@JonathanWinbush I do have not one question. When you buy a character from Market Place that has multiple parts like cloths and accessories, when you drop the character in sequencer you are not able to add animations to it. I don’t see the drop down to add certain actions from its set of motion animations. I wish someone did a tutorial for that.
So if you use the third software like cinema4D to do the trick. Then I have my own trick to do it with blender. Using the addon Export to AE on Blender. Thank you so much, it's solve my problem too.
I just watched this tutorial, and I wonder after a year from publishing this tutorial are there any plugins helps to find a better solution between After Effects and the unreal engine?
Boss, you have a tutorial UE about exporting UE4 camera data to AE for deep synthesis. I followed ue5 to C4d and then to Ae. I found that most of the time, the position data is not fixed, and the offset is very large........ How can we fix the position perfectly without offset????
thank you for this tutorial.. all your tutorials are great and straight to the point. However, it looks to me easier just to use the 3D camera tracker in AE and not jumping back to other software.. Not sure if i am right, just a thought.
Ive tried that before it depends on the shot it doesnt always work out. At least this way you get the exact camera move especially for more complex cameras shots
You have to do the aditional step of use C4D to send the camera to After Effects? This is the only way to do this? Maybe in UE5 there is another way, or am i wrong?
Yeah the UE to AE workflow is pretty non-existent at this point. I am at the point to where I do all my final renders in UE and don't bother with AE at all
Great tutorial as always. I've been following all of your other tutorials on using your phone as the tracker inside unreal, but when I try to export the recorded virtual camera data as FBX I get nothing inside Cinema. I can't find any information anywhere else in getting the tracked camera data out of Unreal. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for this , its very informative. I want to ask a question. It seems this method does not work with shots that has time dilations for example slow motion shots. Do you have any kind of solution about this? Actually i have one that you can render out at 60 fps and then you can give slow mo to shots into after effects. But this is not what i am looking for. Thanks.
Yea I before I make a tutorial I try to go through every option I can think of to make the workflow as simple as possible. I even consulted the people at Maxon and they said yea the axis alignment would take work on their end. Maya and 3D Max it comes in correct because Autodesk importer converts it.
Thank you for this tutorial. Instead of a camera information from C4D, couldnt I just use the tracking tool inside of after effects and lock the logo onto the 3D space created?
hi winbush i have a cuestion. if i scale the null in cinema4d may it works the camera track in AE with other proportions? thank u so much you are a great motion designer
Oh man I did that in like 2016 lol I used this plugin called RE:Map but it wasn't the greatest revisionfx.com/products/remap/ If I was to redo it today I would just use Unreal Engine and I would use decals to get them to be on the walls ruclips.net/video/KcY0DX8pPEw/видео.html
@@anixcool no problem my man 👊🏾 That would make for a good UE tutorial though how I would approach it in 2021 because now with Megascans I could make the cave look much better
@@JonathanWinbush Oh nice! That will be awesome for the beginner like me 😃. How about doing breakdown of your recent projects? like how you imagined it, what challenges you faced & how you achieved your goal. 😄
Is there a particular number of cameras you can have in any given scene? I was thinking about if I could record with the Iclone live link as well as the Unreal Engine camera to capture my scenes, because I wanted to use the Blueprints in after effects to take advantage of some of their systems, and any vfx assets that after effects' might have that I need.
@@JonathanWinbush yes, but colorisation and composting is easier in ae for me. Maybe you know how to render only one bilboard unlit separatelly, next background and then combine it in ae. I like bilbord workflow because i can make crazy camera movement in UE. But i really struggle with Color match
Thanks for the tutorial! I have an issue when I want to export the camera motion with non-linear interpolation to FBX. The exported FBX file becomes linear interpolated, no ease in and out as I have set in Unreal ... Anyone who has a solution?
Hmm sorry about that I would need to see but I don't remember that happening for me. This is more of an hack since theres no official way yet to bring your camera data into AE so there's sure to be hiccups for more complex moves
@@JonathanWinbush Hi Winbush, thanks for answering. Fyi, I used Blender as intermediate software between UE and AE. Do you have experience with that workflow? If so, please let me know. ;)
hey winbush thank you for your awesomeness :) i tried this technic and found a problem maybe you could help me: i tried to export fbx from unreal seq with camera and actual geometry from the scene (not a simple cube), and then import the fbx into c4d, also i took the exr sequence and import it to c4d background with animation. then i found the problem : the fbx export does give the position and rotation of the camera but the field of view is different or focal length - dosent match between the fbx camera and the actual render.. how can i insure that its the exact same camera settings? i want to add more stuff from c4d on top of the unreal alpha render and need the perfect camera with the same field of view from unreal seq inside c4d/ after thanks alot
Why not just take the extra stuff in c4d and bring it into Unreal instead. I did this more of a way to get camera positions for after effects but it's not perfect by far.
@@JonathanWinbush thanks for answering! my goal is : i have a scene with camera movement and practical lights in it. but i hate unreal lens flares - so i had an idea to take the scene from unreal seq - to c4d - than - inside c4d add lights in the same location where the ue lights were - add the external compositing tag to all the lights- and then export to after, and inside after use optical flares by video copilot. but when i tried this it was all messed up. the lights where at different location, the camera has the same position and rotation but the perspective is different- do you have any idea how to solve this?
Its 20204 and there still is ZERO information out there how to get a 3D camera into After effects from ANY other 3d package than cinema4d... I just found out that you CAN now import gltf 3d models directly into After Effects AND you can also extract the animated 3d Camera from that same file, but they don´t match up for me and once more...ZERO information out there on that. Would be great if anyone could tackle that.....wink wink...
Blender works pretty well: - Export the same way as FBX - Import into Blender - Make sure render settings match - Select all the layers you want to export - File -> Export -> Adobe After Effects (.jsx) (If it's not there, enable in Preferences -> Add-ons) In After Effects you then go: - File -> Scripts -> Run Script And blam, everything setup. Blender uses the same axes as Unreal Engine so no need to rotate anything.
Hey Jonathan,
Thanks for another great tutorial :-) Two quick additions though:
Firstly, you can probably save yourself a lot of hassle by just importing your C4D project into AE directly and then using the Cineware effect (which lets you 'export' the animated camera and any null objects you defined in C4D earlier).
Secondly, I was having a really bad time yesterday, making the imported camera animation match the UE render. It was always a bit off and since I had to replace a screen in the render with a video in AE, I needed absolute precision.
After a lot of trial and error I realised that you have to...
a) ...offset the render and the imported animations by one frame (i.e. the render from UE starts at frame '0', but the camera and null object animations have to start at frame '1').
b) ...go into the 'Advanced' tab underneath the 'Composition Settings' and set the 'Shutter Phase' to -90 degrees, so that the motion blur inside AE matches the motion blur that was rendered inside UE.
Once that's done anything that's added inside AE matches the UE animation perfectly (FYI, my entire workflow was based on 25fps).
Hope this helps :-)
Those are some awesome tips I'm going to pin this comment to the top!
@@JonathanWinbush Its a good time to re-upload this video Sir.. With new or easier workflow
@@shashwatkauraw8085 there is none right now
I'm doing all my intros in After Effects for a VR project. Your video just saved me lots of time! Thank you so much for that info!
That's awesome glad I could help! 🤙🏾
The reason for the camera to be rotated is due to diffrent axis in diffrent software. C4d axis is Y up but in unreal engine its Z up. So it can be fixed in fbx import or export dialog box, there will be up axis dialog box.
Ive tried all that it never came in correct
Lmk if you get it to work
once again, exactly the info I needed! (to export an animated camera with some reference geo). You're the man 🙏
Hopefully it works out I know this is kind of hacky lol
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TUTORIAL any graphics artist learning Unreal should watch. You are a true pioneer sir. I had messed with C4d as a throughput , but I never did your GROUP OBJECTS in C4. I always parented to a Null, which somehow didn't work. I am curious if you ever considered pulling in the cinema 4d scene directly into after effects, and then using the included After Effects plug-in to EXTRACT ALL, which places a Camera and lights (and possiblty nulls). I ask, because I think I did that and failed. But I hadn't tried it with the GROUP method. I'll get back to you! Well done!
First thank you for the kind words I really appreciate it 🙏🏾
I don't like importing C4D directly into After Effects it never properly worked for me it always gave me issues before.
Winbush you are a legend with all the content you are pushing out, every time i search something you come up with the solution.
Big respect and thanks!
Appreciate that arne thank you 🤙🏾
legendary info! Glad it's out there for more people to use :)
Thank you Jon 🤙🏾
Oh, I also had a camera request from UE for subsequent compositing in Ae by the post-production guys. I also tried in every possible way to export the camera to cinema 4d and it was always in another place, then turned out.
My solution was this: export the camera from UE to an FBX file, and then import this fbx into 3ds Max ... and voila! 3ds Max reads exactly the position of the camera and objects that you unload from the sequencer. and then from 3ds Max we again unload to FBX and I already uploaded this file to Cinema 4d
and it works!
I've seen people be able to take their UE scenes into Maya as well and it works I'm not sure why we can't get it to translate well for C4D but hopefully it's something Maxon is working on
@@JonathanWinbush I think there is some trick here in the UE exporter. Because Autodesk products are at the heart of all training material for UE, the exporter is written with many preferences for the Autodesk environment
That makes sense because i tried a lot of different fbx export and import settings with no luck
for Maya use the "Maya to AE live Link" Feature to import camera and null information into AE. For Blender there's a Import-Export Adobe After Effects addon to export the camera out of Blender.
Awesome thank you 🤙🏾
do you know how to export the camera out of After effects to Unreal engine?
@@howareu4549 You need to bring your AE camera into your 3D program of choice and from there export it as an FBX into unreal.
@@DonTNguyen thank you. Any good free 3d program to recommend? Can I actually use bender for it?
@@howareu4549 You can use Blender with an Addon called AE2Blend to bring Camera and nulls from AE into Blender.
winbush this is absolutely incredible, i think this is exactly what ive been looking for, basically i am filming my talent on a green screen with the camera still on a tripod, then im keying it out in fusion > exporting into an EXR > then importing into unreal engine either on an image plane or into composure and then making the camera moves unreal engine, making all my camera movement in the environment around my subject / the image plane then im exporting the cg plate BG and then separately exporting the stencil/media plate layer FG. THEN im compositing it back together in Davinci fusion. its working but im loosing quality in my EXR throughout the process and also loosing control over the color spaces. so what im thinking is now just temporarily adding the pre-keyed exr media into unreal, doing my camera movements, rendering out the cg background then hopefully exporting the scene like you are doing here fbx etc and then creating a compositing 3d scene for fusion and adding the RED raw shots straight into the 3d scene, does that make sense?? ive been looking for someone doing this!! what do you think
This is amazing. Thankyou for always sharing so many easy to follow, straight forward tutorials. So helpful.
Thanks Judge appreciate the support 👊🏾
Thanks for this. For simple moves like this dolly push this mostly works fine. For anything complex, it's anyone's guess. Some work fine. Some who the hell knows what's going on, objects aren't in the right place in C4D, camera isn't point the right way, etc. Very frustrating process
Yea these days I tend to do use AE as much and do all my work in UE if possible because it's not very intuitive when trying to export camera work outside of UE
@@JonathanWinbush Yes I think what happens is that Cinema4d does not read or input or UE does not export the camera center point, or whatever the camera is set to look at. At least that's what it looks like . Which on an example shot like yours is no problem at all, but mine has lots of circling shots and the camera can really get lost sometimes.
How is this not a plugin yet? :( As a long-time AE artist now being tasked with integrating UE cinematics I was pretty shocked to discover there's no more streamlined workflow for this@@JonathanWinbush
Amazing, thank you so much!
Glad it helps 🤙🏿🤙🏿
Been waiting for this one Winbush! Thank you! -Nick
Yea I was working on a project where I needed to use AE and I had that AH HA moment, tried it out, and it worked lol
@@JonathanWinbush I had tried it early on and it didn't work for me right out of the gate (c4d middleman was the trick apparently). So I've held off for awhile and doing work arounds, even though you always want that flexibility to roundtrip. Thanks man! Life is good again! :)
@@nickfilms if I can find a programmer I think an UE to AE plugin would be huge I get asked about this all the time
@@JonathanWinbush It's true. I have a couple guys too if I can pry them away from what they're doing ;) It would definitely be a nice feature for a quick export camera to all the apps.
As always keep up the good work man! Lots of love!
Hey Winbush, So had a fairly complex move I needed to get from Unreal into C4D, it wasn't quite lining up, I tried a lot of different exports. Finally got it after I baked the transform of the camera in UR. I'm not sure why it made a difference? Maybe the curves wouldn't line up..? Either way, something that helped me with that one. Life's good again! ;)
Thanks Winbush - you have been so helpful in my transition into UE from C4d. If anyone is having trouble with the camera being randomly offset (and rotating the axis as in Winbush tutorial) try a different version of Cinema. I was using r19 and no luck. But with R23 bingo - all worked fine. Just thought this would be useful to share. Cheers
If you bake your camera you should get better results as well
Thanks for the creative solution!
My pleasure I love to experiment with this stuff 🤙🏾
Thank you so much. Very helpful!
You're welcome my man 🤙🏿
Great solution, tnank you!
Your welcome 🤙🏿
I'm very surprised someone hasn't made a " camera to external composite " plugin yet . Money to be made $
100% 👐🏾
BRO this is epic. I've been hours of my life for years but NO MORE.
Haha knowledge is power 🤙🏾
Its one of those things once i thought about I'm like this should work
sah-weet! Just what I needed. Thanks again Winbush!
Your welcome 🤙🏾
Super video! I applauded for $5.00 👏👏
Wow, thanks really appreciate it Nick! 🤙🏾
Most helpful and interesting Channels!!!
Thank you Andron feel free to subscribe I do tutorials like this weekly 🤙🏾
@@JonathanWinbush I did already. Thanks. Its very cool.
Thank you my friend 🙏🏾
hi
thanks for tutorial
can make video tutorial for
import tracking of after effect or mocha pro to unreal engine
and can use track to match by unral engine
thanks
I'd probably track in Cinema 4d and bring that into UE it'd be simpler
This was great! Thank you
You're welcome
Second time you've helped me out in a week. Thanks man!
Happy to help!
this is so painful, but such a great video of explaining it.
Yea I'm pushing for an easier way I've contacted both parties expressing the desire for better integration
This is super coool , and kudos for you to figure this out. Thank you for that. My question is now how we bring camera from AE to Unreal ?
I've not tried it but I think it's possible to export a FBX from AE yea? You could go that route I'd imagine
This is a great vid. So helpful. Thanks much!
Thanks 🤙🏾
perfect solution
Thank you so match! Very high-quality video
Your welcome!
thanks for tutorial...
Your welcome my man 🤙🏾
Great tut! Thanks Bro!!
No problem thank you 🤙🏾
Thank you.
Your welcome
Awesome tutorial great job!
i have a question if i want to take information from a spot light i do it with same way?
I dont think lights work from UE to AE but I honestly haven't tries so might be worth a shot
@@JonathanWinbush i mean to create a spotlight for my scene in UE then i take the 3d informations like camera and then create a new spotlight to AE and attach it to the 3d infos from C4D to have the same lights effects in new objects (example Logo).
i dont know if makes sense :) anyway great tutorial
@@shadowrns yea I understand but I've not tried it as I'm normally going from C4D to UE so I havent had much of a need to go the opposite so I personally haven't tried
good video thanks for help :)
Thanks man 🤙🏿
thanks , your way thebest way
You are a Pixel GOD my friend. I tried everything and it never seemed to work until I saw this Video. If they say what you give out you receive back double, hen you wil definitely get abd an easy tiple. I am looking forward to seeing more.
Thank you my man, it's definitely not perfect and hope there will a better solution one day but it's a start
@@JonathanWinbush it’s gotten me farther than ever before. And it worked out perfect. You have a fan in NYC. :)
@@pixelking glad I could help 🤙🏾
@@JonathanWinbush I do have not one question. When you buy a character from Market Place that has multiple parts like cloths and accessories, when you drop the character in sequencer you are not able to add animations to it. I don’t see the drop down to add certain actions from its set of motion animations. I wish someone did a tutorial for that.
So if you use the third software like cinema4D to do the trick. Then I have my own trick to do it with blender. Using the addon Export to AE on Blender. Thank you so much, it's solve my problem too.
Awesome man yea I think most 3d apps could do the trick
could you make a tutorial about it? Because this C4D doesnt really work out for me.
I just watched this tutorial, and I wonder after a year from publishing this tutorial are there any plugins helps to find a better solution between After Effects and the unreal engine?
I wish there was but no one has still created a proper plugin yet
Good one. Nice job.
nice tips my friends :) one more :) thanks
Haha thanks 🤙🏾
I'll keep them coming
Awesome Brother!
Thank my man 🤙🏾
thank you!!!
You're welcome
thank youuuuu
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Boss, you have a tutorial UE about exporting UE4 camera data to AE for deep synthesis. I followed ue5 to C4d and then to Ae. I found that most of the time, the position data is not fixed, and the offset is very large........ How can we fix the position perfectly without offset????
I have the same problem
OMG You're Amazing 🔥
👊🏾👊🏾
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you bro 🙏🏾
l have tryed that flip Z and worked correct for me.
Awesome ill give it another try 🤙🏾
Great!
Thanks Eric 👊🏾
Has anyone solved the issue of having an inverted Axis orientation after exporting from UE to C4D?
Perfect my friend, thank you
You're welcome 🤙🏾
thank you for this tutorial.. all your tutorials are great and straight to the point. However, it looks to me easier just to use the 3D camera tracker in AE and not jumping back to other software.. Not sure if i am right, just a thought.
Ive tried that before it depends on the shot it doesnt always work out. At least this way you get the exact camera move especially for more complex cameras shots
tnx for tutorial! can u help where to find c4dimporter plugin for AE?
I forget the exact area but its in the AE folder somewhere the location is in the manual last time I remember
You have to do the aditional step of use C4D to send the camera to After Effects? This is the only way to do this? Maybe in UE5 there is another way, or am i wrong?
I'm not familiar with Maya so maybe theres a way there
super bro )
Appreciate it 🤙🏿
How would you export a null object in the scene with your camera? To be able to know where a 3D object is in after effects
What is an alternative method to export camera to AE,Nuke beside C4D ? thank you.
Maybe Maya
nice ! what about importing lights from unreal to afx ? cheers from RIo
Yeah the UE to AE workflow is pretty non-existent at this point. I am at the point to where I do all my final renders in UE and don't bother with AE at all
"Save project file" isn't an option in my render settings in Cinema 4D. Is this only on the paid version and not the "Lite"?
I'm guess so as I've never used the lite version of c4d before
Can we rotate the camera in after effects i have parented camera with actor in ue and then imported in c4d
You probably can but this is a hack way of doing it so might not line up
those without access to c4d they can also import through cineware for AE.
You tried it it works that way too?
how?
thanks a lot my friend!
You're welcome! 🤙🏿
Great tutorial as always. I've been following all of your other tutorials on using your phone as the tracker inside unreal, but when I try to export the recorded virtual camera data as FBX I get nothing inside Cinema. I can't find any information anywhere else in getting the tracked camera data out of Unreal. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I haven't tried exporting tracked camera data myself actually
Thank you for this , its very informative. I want to ask a question. It seems this method does not work with shots that has time dilations for example slow motion shots. Do you have any kind of solution about this? Actually i have one that you can render out at 60 fps and then you can give slow mo to shots into after effects. But this is not what i am looking for. Thanks.
I don't this is the only method I have as of now
my man. maybe On import into C4d there are Geo import axis options. Maybe that Flip axis combo could do the trick.. need to try
Yea I before I make a tutorial I try to go through every option I can think of to make the workflow as simple as possible. I even consulted the people at Maxon and they said yea the axis alignment would take work on their end. Maya and 3D Max it comes in correct because Autodesk importer converts it.
Ok cool make that video and let's see if you can get it to work.
Thank you for this tutorial. Instead of a camera information from C4D, couldnt I just use the tracking tool inside of after effects and lock the logo onto the 3D space created?
If it works yea but I know tracking CG has been hit n miss for me so I like to share options and work arounds for those that may need it
@@JonathanWinbush Thank you
Great the possibility exists, but still a painful pipeline, this particular scene would be tracked easier in after effects I guess.
Yea its a work around for now. I find that tracking cg shots in AE often are problemmatic least for me it never really tracks that great.
hi winbush i have a cuestion. if i scale the null in cinema4d may it works the camera track in AE with other proportions? thank u so much you are a great motion designer
I dont think it'll match but worth a try. usually you want it to match what you did in ue
Hello Winbush. Can you breakdown your KULIPARI AN ARMY OF FROGS Sequence or at least how you added those projections on the wall?
Oh man I did that in like 2016 lol
I used this plugin called RE:Map but it wasn't the greatest revisionfx.com/products/remap/
If I was to redo it today I would just use Unreal Engine and I would use decals to get them to be on the walls ruclips.net/video/KcY0DX8pPEw/видео.html
@@JonathanWinbush Oh So cool! Thanks a lot. 😄🙏🏻
@@anixcool no problem my man 👊🏾
That would make for a good UE tutorial though how I would approach it in 2021 because now with Megascans I could make the cave look much better
@@JonathanWinbush Oh nice! That will be awesome for the beginner like me 😃. How about doing breakdown of your recent projects? like how you imagined it, what challenges you faced & how you achieved your goal. 😄
Is there a particular number of cameras you can have in any given scene? I was thinking about if I could record with the Iclone live link as well as the Unreal Engine camera to capture my scenes, because I wanted to use the Blueprints in after effects to take advantage of some of their systems, and any vfx assets that after effects' might have that I need.
since unreal doesnt officialy support After Effects it gets a little tricky taking just the one camera over so I can't imagine doing multiple
@@JonathanWinbush that's fair.
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Hey Winbush, do you know any way to do this if your camera is on a rail?
I don't as of now sorry
@@JonathanWinbush No worries man thanks though.
do you know if un UE5 is easier way to export camera from UE to AE?
Not at the moment since UE is really built to be the end of the pipeline so exporting from it isn't the easiest at all
@@JonathanWinbush yes, but colorisation and composting is easier in ae for me. Maybe you know how to render only one bilboard unlit separatelly, next background and then combine it in ae. I like bilbord workflow because i can make crazy camera movement in UE. But i really struggle with Color match
@@CaliHomie Unreal actually has coloring tools you can use all withint UE you don't really need to go to AE for coloring and compositing
Thanks for the tutorial! I have an issue when I want to export the camera motion with non-linear interpolation to FBX. The exported FBX file becomes linear interpolated, no ease in and out as I have set in Unreal ... Anyone who has a solution?
Hmm sorry about that I would need to see but I don't remember that happening for me. This is more of an hack since theres no official way yet to bring your camera data into AE so there's sure to be hiccups for more complex moves
@@JonathanWinbush Hi Winbush, thanks for answering. Fyi, I used Blender as intermediate software between UE and AE. Do you have experience with that workflow? If so, please let me know. ;)
@@myllepieter I haven't used it before no
hey winbush thank you for your awesomeness :)
i tried this technic and found a problem maybe you could help me:
i tried to export fbx from unreal seq with camera and actual geometry from the scene (not a simple cube),
and then import the fbx into c4d, also i took the exr sequence and import it to c4d background with animation.
then i found the problem : the fbx export does give the position and rotation of the camera but the field of view is different or focal length - dosent match between the fbx camera and the actual render.. how can i insure that its the exact same camera settings?
i want to add more stuff from c4d on top of the unreal alpha render and need the perfect camera with the same field of view from unreal seq inside c4d/ after
thanks alot
Why not just take the extra stuff in c4d and bring it into Unreal instead. I did this more of a way to get camera positions for after effects but it's not perfect by far.
@@JonathanWinbush thanks for answering! my goal is : i have a scene with camera movement and practical lights in it. but i hate unreal lens flares - so i had an idea to take the scene from unreal seq - to c4d - than - inside c4d add lights in the same location where the ue lights were - add the external compositing tag to all the lights- and then export to after, and inside after use optical flares by video copilot. but when i tried this it was all messed up. the lights where at different location, the camera has the same position and rotation but the perspective is different- do you have any idea how to solve this?
@@THIS_is_BRANT you can turn the lens flare down or off inside the post process volume
how to export scene geo from UE?
right click on the object in the content browser then export fbx
@@JonathanWinbush Thanks sm! So I should do It with each object? If I need the geometry of the whole scene
@@gemini6937 Oh I see well this tutorial may help ya out ruclips.net/video/x-xzXFd1DWk/видео.htmlsi=b4h8DJJjOXr-AW3G
@@JonathanWinbush Thank you so so much!!!
How I make cartoon like Japanese in UE??
This studio shows how they do it ruclips.net/video/UuX6ldtaflc/видео.htmlsi=G8HhMrl2_lQae8zA
Its 20204 and there still is ZERO information out there how to get a 3D camera into After effects from ANY other 3d package than cinema4d...
I just found out that you CAN now import gltf 3d models directly into After Effects AND you can also extract the animated 3d Camera from that same file, but they don´t match up for me and once more...ZERO information out there on that.
Would be great if anyone could tackle that.....wink wink...
Blender works pretty well:
- Export the same way as FBX
- Import into Blender
- Make sure render settings match
- Select all the layers you want to export
- File -> Export -> Adobe After Effects (.jsx) (If it's not there, enable in Preferences -> Add-ons)
In After Effects you then go:
- File -> Scripts -> Run Script
And blam, everything setup. Blender uses the same axes as Unreal Engine so no need to rotate anything.
Aa Harimanada !!!! hahaha cheeeese
from the Manga??
@@JonathanWinbush i think soooo. but i know it was made into an old school video game. he has arcade in background lol
o sht. winbush. lol . my bad. thought it was someone else. keep up the great work man!!!!
@@salientfilm lol to funny it is a sumo wrestling game though 🤣
@@JonathanWinbush 🤣
should probably start with the fact you're using cinema4D in this tutorial. Thats not cheap
🤷🏾♂️ it's listed in the chapters
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