A MAJOR Update On My G87 M2 Issue That BMW Didn't Want To Fix
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- Here's the last major update on the situation regarding my 2023 BMW G87 M2. I came across some new information that I will share with you guys in this video.
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As a dealership tech. I hate this. Do you know how annoying it is doing warranty diag for chassis/suspension noise on a car that has aftermarket suspension components? It's extremely annoying, and a waste of time. Since the car made this noise from the get-go; the obvious idea would be to take it in to get remedied BEFORE modifying the suspension geometry. Even wheel spacers can be an issue since it changes the track width of the car. This would be the same thing if someone had a big turbo tuned b58 or whatever and came in for a warranty engine replacement because there is a known issue with the early oil pumps; I'm not going to have a warranty claim get denied and not get paid for replacing an engine, because the owner didn't at least put his car back to stock before going to the dealer.
Totally agree. I know it’s boring, but that’s why I leave my cars stock until the warranty expires. If you’re modding and your mods have anything related to the warranty claim, you know it’s going to be a fight. Once you start modding you should understand you’re essentially voiding your warranty with that component of the car. I think this is why BMW started locking the DME. People would tune, blow up stuff, and then go and try to do warranty claims. So now when you tune the car and blow your engine, there is no fight. Warranty automatically voided and they can see that “you” did it. Still sucks tho lol because now I have to jump through hoops to tune after my warranty has expired.
I think it's safe to assume any/all modifications will make a warranty related issue that much more difficult to have go your way, especially when it has any connection mechanically & (more importantly) diagnostically. If their (dealer) systems indicate any basis for a claim denial, I don't doubt the software system itself (previously ISTA+ in my case on F22) adds redundancies to aid that claim being denied. So many parenthesis here I know 😂
Even if u put it back to stock these bmws have black boxes basically anything plugged in will be picked up when they scan the key. 😒 I would LOVE TO THROW MY A DAHLER piggy bank tune n get 100 hp depressingly warranty will be voided n I ain’t voiding that shit lmao.
The yellow looks fine 👍
😂😅 the lies
I appreciate you 🌭
You glazing the wrong hotdog
You’re going to flick alot of crap in front of the wheel liner . The fins are angled down for a reason
I hate dealerships that don't work with the car modding community. Subaru has been amazing with my STI.
Can’t tell if this a joke or not..
I get it in some instances that have nothing to do with your mods but I totally understand why they don’t if it’s most likely related. If you put on different suspension, custom wheels and spacers and your car starts making noise, most likely you did that. The minute they touch it, they could become liable for things. A lot of mechanics will turn you down for stuff like that.
It honestly depends on the brand. VW absolute trash. They even give us modified owners a difficult time in replacing parts that have been recalled. But BMW never gave me a hard time on my modified E46 M3. Maybe that’s because the employees always loved seeing the car and would give me more “special” treatment. Not sure. But there weren’t ever any questions asked on that car.
my bmw dealer loves working on my modded out f80. some dealerships are just simply trash
Some dealerships just work differently
Ιt's not the aggresive wheels. You lowered the car too much. Lift it by 1cm intervals and check where it starts to rub.
Nice fender mod. Great solution.
Love the car ! Much love from Boston 💯🙏
Actually the yellow color pads look dope! Thanks for the super informative post 👏🏼👏🏼
Color combo is great incl the yellow pads 👍
Nice video love these shows 🎉🎉🎉
Hey, I enjoy your videos, but I figured I would comment on the red brake caliper option statement you made at 2:03. It says "M Compound" red brake calipers. The M compound portion would likely be the different brake material used i.e. potentially causing this issue. Also Pagid and Akebono make really good high quality products so its shocking to find they are causing vibrations when braking. Glad you got it resolved, but it sucks BMW isn't really stepping up and owning the issue.
"M Compound" Brakes are standard on all M2, M3, M4 according to BMW
It’s the same compound, just the caliper color option
love your channel....keep it up.....
Good stuff, dude.
Akebono usually comes as OEM on JDM cars, and PAGID is the OEM for german cars, they are both very good brands, most likely there was an issue with the specs akebono got from BMW for those specific pads, which is why the vibration happens, but who knows, could be akebono's fault as well.
McDonalds brake pads, me no like it 😂
Someone with the guts 2 tell him the truth!!! Real friend and supportive!
Ketchup, mustard, and salt
😂😂😂. All good, the brake dust took care of the yellow issue.
EBC are as crap a pad as you can get 🤣
Always a good day when vehicle virals post
If I were BMW and a customer came to the shop with a noise, vibration, and/or braking issue on a car with a modified suspension, wheels that barely fit into the fender, and WHEEL SPACERS on a 90k M of all things, I’d turn you away also.
It’s like opening a can of worms…
Yeah no way they’re touching that.
Nah, customers can buy whatever they want for the car. And they would have to prove the parts caused the issue specifically in a warranty case, so it's simply a bad dealership/bad techs.
😅my x4m made noise swapped them to ebc yellow stuff 👍🏾
Them caliper and brake setup is a nice hot dog special 😂
This shit cost too much money to be having all these issues. It should be flawless. With that said 3 M2's i heard recently had some insanely loud brake squeal.
M2 fyeeee but next episode we gotta see you changing the calipers to black or a darker color to go with the yellow brakes. the yellow brakes goes well with the blue as well
Another banger👏👏
yeah I got the 2023 BMW G87 but I have the blue calipers and I don’t have that issue thank God! I am wondering if I am wasting my money with the wheel warranty since I’m here in long island NY. Might just cancel that crap since I store the vehicle during winter months
I think the "weights" are there to be able to pull out the pad easily. Not really needed. EBC pads are great.
Nice vid bro
Interseting, both pad manufacturers are very big names in the game.
Got the same issue after driving 4000km with the red M compound brakes. Going to the dealership next week and I‘m curious what they will do. My car is completely stock btw. Greetings from europe!
THIS is the good content
Would u ever single turbo the m2? Like other G8x owners
I bet the slight extra slippage in the pad messes with the abs a bit. Makes it hesitate
Brake dust will cover up that yellow anyways. Also if you want a great aggressive street pads, endless mx72 or mx72+ are amazing.
I've also had issues with BMW Australia not wanting to fix an issue that's listed as an issue on the puma system, one of my vehicles is a 2022 M135i xdrive, wastegate actuator rattle/ squeak, " normal operation" or a characteristic of the b48, absolute clowns these BMW techs bunch of bunnies and know FA.
Hopefully your issue gets sorted, as the M2 I had would squeal like a pig, terrible as a daily.
Pagid, is a brand from TMD friction, aka Textar Mintex Dore, they are like one of the biggest OEM manufacturers.
It's ok dude. I did my oil pan gasket on 328i and I found retainer clips up in my oil pickup!? 🤷♂
I had a similar problem like this with my BMW dealership they made me take off all of my modifications (under warranty) just to even look at my car once I took off the aftermarket suspension, etc. they told me that nothing was wrong with my car so I practically wasted all my time and money just to solve the problem on my own after months of questions and research lol
bmw needs to adopt the slide in brake pad setup on their caliper so you don't have to remove the caliper. saves decent amount of time when changing pads imo
akebono does this well on nissan and infiniti products just my 5 cents i guess lol
1k Hell yeah!!!
They should consider that as a warranty/recall as its part of safety
my 435 rubs on the front vents as well. so annoying
Do you offer the upgraded fender guards for the e9x line up? It’s an issue with my 335is with the coolers on both sides
If you find anything lmk please I have the same issue with mine
Hmm might have to whip some for the E9X guys. Didn't know that was an issue on those cars.
@@VehicleVirals for some reason stock 225s rub with spacers for me :/ would be nice if u were able to 🙏🏼
Could you possibly know where I can find a 2010 335i sedan?
I certainly do, where can I send the link? Rhd or LHD?
Red and blue have same pads here up north so it’s not an issue with just red ones.
Sure about that?
I actually notified APEX about their recommended wheels specs clashing with those fins in the fender liner. Also on the left side. Luckily only one broke on my g80. But yeah if you go with apex wheels and meatier tires be warned. Not a huge deal but if you have OCD and little details bother you, now you know.
My Gr Supra had this issue as well and was under 7k miles when it started
Sounds like pad deposits. If the red calipers come with a different pad maybe that compound is more likely to put deposits on the rotors. It is weird though that when changed to different pads it eliminates the product immediately though, I could see it going away eventually as the deposits get evened out
The issue never went away. Even after trying to bed in the pads multiple times.
Depending on how many pad deposits could take a while. Unless you switched to a track pad with a harder compound then it will accelerate the removal of deposits and even then can still take a minute. This happens a lot to people that take stock pads to the track. Funny enough its happened to me now even though I took track pads to the track but maybe did not bed em enough.
Also pagid pads are known for leaving tons of deposits, those are the ones that came with the m2 brakes right?
“Ally, underpaid employee” that’s wild 😂
Will fender liner screen work on the F87 M2 Competition? I am getting rubbing in the same section.
Can't confirm fitment on the F87. We've only tested them on the G8X platform.
It *should* work, from looking at the screens. Are you talking original M2 or Comp/CS?
I have a CS, the fender liners are identical to the Comp, but I'm near certain that the Competition has redesigned fender liners compared to the original M2, there's more ducting from the front bumper (same brake calipers and rotor size between Comp and CS, only difference being the carbon ceramic rotors, but the OG M2 is likely different cause it never got the 6 piston calipers, or the front bumper redesign with the extra air channels).
Worst case, you could use the same screen, just trimmed down a bit (IF it's even necessary to trim them).
What size are you running?
I'm on standard offset on my Volk Wheels, but running 285/35 rear and 255/35 front, on 19x9.5 F and 19x10.5 R. So a bit wider than stock, no rubbing yet, though
I'm at almost 8000k miles, 2024, red calipers - no brake issues so far.
EBC Redstuff for me.
Good choice!
when you say squeal, you mean they make that noise when you break? I have a brand new 2024 M2 stock and sometimes when I drive it squeals when I break, is that normal? off the lot with 21 miles
its the pads aggressive street bads tend to make noise on and off , try bedding them in again see if that makes the sound go away
look up a bedding in process for general street pads
Yeah that's normal
@@VehicleViralswhy does this happen brother I was gunna tell Bmw about it but should I not even bother?
@@martintorres9872 They will tell you it's normal and nothing can be done unfortunately. They blame it on being a characteristic of "performance brakes"
@@VehicleViralshey bro thanks for the answers man I was going nuts, I appreciate your help I have the same car color as yours you’re the man bro
The m2 grew on me but ion think the new 2025 lci M cars can grow on me, the headlights just look weird😭
Then a year later you’ll love it.
Classic development with BMW. 🤝
3,800+ lbs will never grow on me. Not with those taillights anyway. They're upside-down and on the wrong side. If you flip them upside-down and swap sides, it would be similar to the M4.
@@Saiyan585 okay. That won’t stop BMWs from flooding the streets. BMW can live wouldn’t on customers money. 🤷🏿♂️
@@gaara4667 G87's are hardly flooding the streets. People are turning to the F87 over this.
@@Saiyan585 I’m seeing new 2 series and new M2🤷🏿♂️
But I was talking M cars in general are flooding the streets regardless of how keyboard warriors feel.
EBC brake pads are terrible, You are better off getting the DS2500 from Ferodo or even the PFC or Winmax. Endless is great but very aggressive for street.
Never had issues with EBC pads personally.
@@VehicleVirals Just dont use them to track the car.
The McDonald’s special I was thinking that from the jump
My car does the same thing also
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Let’s Go🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Damn... I have the red calipers.
Wow older m cars look so much better
Finally brand new pads lol … rotor warping comes from
Driving fast then hitting water puddles ..shouldn’t be a manufacturing issue bro
Nothing to do when warped rotors.
Unusual to see Christian getting his hands dirty
Normally wares gloves.
Good to see
Akebono is a good company Justin Buice has them on his E90, I think they just made trash ones for the m2( Every M2 get sabotaged so it doesn’t get as many sells as m3/M4 it seem👀)
McBrakes, hopefully it’s on the $1 menu
Hm, they have "Red Stuff" aswell... prob. harder though.
Its not making a noise "yet" 😬 wait till you've done 2-3k miles, THEN see if its making that noise again.
Hope not tho 🤞🤞
It didn't vibrate after 3K miles. Which is why I waited this long to make a follow up video.
I have yellow stuff pads on my e92, they're awesome. They'll squeel a bit but who cares. Race car.
EBC yellows 😳 on a £60k car with how much power?! They’re sort of the joke of track pads in Europe just fyi.
I tried EBC pads on my canyon/trackday R53 MINI back in the day. They came out and went straight in the bin after about two weeks. Horrible, borderline dangerous performance on downhill canyon runs. No such issue with Ferodo DS2500 but nowadays I like Carbotech/G-Loc.
@@ixD9 ironically DS2500 are also considered a bit of a toy pad in Europe as well, no one uses them on circuit. Mind you it’s all relative, I suppose anything can feel good until you’ve had something better.
@@mitchdaytonam3 No doubt. I was using DS2500 back in 2005. I tried it again on an FR-S in 2014 and it felt like a toy compared to Carbotech. Brake pad tech has evolved SO much over the last 20 years.
Bro can not catch a break on breaking cars 😭
Odd. I've had good luck with akibono pads in the past. Probably a case of them being bought by another company and now they are shit
You can take the brake pads out without taking of the calliper i think you know this
You actually cannot on these calipers. There is a section of the caliper blocking it when they’re mounted.
German engineering 🙏
Dealerships don’t make any sense
I mean if you got a pad that’s for light track use who cares what color they are? lol should’ve just got the Red Stuffs
Red stuff is not for track use or hard street use. Not for me
Yellow and red= McDonald's spec 😂
I appreciate your passion for the new M cars but BMW had much better cars and way better dealer service 20 years ago. It was also before BMW sold out and started throwing “///M” badges on base model and other non-M cars. And the dealers are terrible these days. Seven trips to have my E46 airbag recall completed and it’s still not installed correctly. I also had a dealer commit insurance fraud instead of repairing my X5 driveshaft under warranty.
I had a similar experience. I felt like they wanted me to lie to my extended warranty. Because they messed up and told me I was covered. When I was not. They end up doing all the repairs in goodwill.
Pah (nor par or pay) jid like did. Pah-jid
McDonald’s brakes is crazy 😂
😂
Hotdog brakes
Whos here befo 1k?
Yessuh ‼️
Your not to bright are you
Yo moma😁
@@ManuelFresh100 something a 10 yr old would say😭 haven’t heard anyone say that since elementary school
Me
That styling, still not bought into the style.
To all of those who have not been following this guy, this guy is very misleading talking about the vibration issue on his new M2. He tries to put the blame on BMW for not fixing the issue when BMW actually did take his car on multiple occasions and told this guy to do certain things. Long story short, this guys M2 has been modified, and BMW was doing normal Dx’s so that they could rule out his modifications as being the cause. Because he had modifications, especially to the suspension, BMW did not want to claim this as a warranty issue or tackle the job themselves without doing proper Dx’s.
This guy took that “personal” and tries to blame BMW for not fixing it, while at the same time putting BMW down. Make it make sense guy…
So before you go on believing this guys story, I just wanted to let you know the actual facts behind this guy’s complaints.
You can spin it however you want to spin it. I took the car to the dealership multiple times and did everything they asked me to do. Several hours at the dealership each and every time without even looking at what the obvious issue might have been, the pads, the rotors. They told me the spacers at the time were the issue and asked me to take them off and then bring the car back. Then they blamed it on the strut tower braces because of incorrect preload. They asked me to put the OEM ones back on and bring it back. And at that point we can move forward. Again, that was ruled out. Then they blamed it on the car being too low because of the HAS kit. They asked me to raise the car to its factory height, and so I did. Do you see the trend here. I even offered to pay them to check the brakes (since they didn't even want to examine or measure them) and if there was something wrong with them, I would get reimbursed. Others were having the same issue and we're getting their claims approved nationwide. This issue was going on before the mods and I had video proof of it. No reason to question my integrity. I have nothing to lie about.
That's what BMW does. Mod your car and they will tell you F off
young folks with m cars these days seem to like having colors that do not belong together. as one can tell when you see some of the horrific interior/exterior g80 color combos out there lol!
Pretty clickbaity to claim you were getting the run around, other things were blamed, didnt want to fix etc. when you very well know they were willing to work on the car, they just cannot work on modified cars; even gave you the option to cover it after removing the mods. Can't believe I'm still hearing about this tbh
Did you watch the previous 2 videos on this issue? They blamed the spacers, I pulled them off. They blamed the strut tower braces, I replaced them with the oem ones. Then they blamed the suspension and at that point I decided to take matters into my own hand.
Your M2 looks mint all you need is to push more horsepower giving extra juice epic work lads.
That car is so ugly, Pontiac Atez people are so happy 😂
Cold 🥶
4th
well, you went with bigger wheels, and you blame BMW for the rubbing 🙈
When did I blame BMW for rubbing? Watch the video my dude.
Every time the complaining, and wining. Swear you are a big baby.