'06 5.4 3v w 263,000 miles... mostly hwy before the last 7 years. CHANGE MY OIL 2 X A YEAR, I do about 5-6,000 miles/year now... fluids, fluids, fluids!
Reminds me of the engines from the the 1950's and 1960's. Oils back then were no where's as good as today's oils so depending on maintenance back then would determine how much sludge was in the engine. This engine had a bad life. Thanks Brian for this video. Memories!
My grandpa used to talk about the Buick straight 8 he bought used. I guess he took the valve cover off and the sludge was so thick it was actually a mold of the valve cover. I remember him saying he had to build a small fire under the oil pan to get it to crank when it was really cold outside. 🥶 Can you imagine that today 😳
@@TheBigdog868 my buddy did same thing. 56 Chevy with NO OIL FILTER took valve cover off and it said Chevrolet in the sludge. He then got a bucket and spoon. It was still good, though. Underneath the sludge build- up.
i will say one thing....dont change your engine oil just drive and be happy....heck when car bliws up just buy another car but whatever u do never ever change the engine oil
That’s crazy. I ran amsoil signature in my 2008 fusion with the 2.3. Had to replace valve cover o rings about every 100k miles. At 310k she looked like new inside. Some very minor tinting from age. Camshaft looked exceptional for the mileage. I don’t do this anymore, but I changed oil every 20k miles or twice a year. I averaged about 35k miles a year. I regularly checked oil at fuel ups due to its age and rarely had to add oil. Maybe 1/2-3/4 qt between changes. Maybe I was just lucky. It was also an older basic engine with no vvt. Anyways that car died due to a deer and my Camry gets fresh oil every 5k.
Please don’t think this was a knock on what your saying. Love your videos. One of the best techs on YT. I was just thinking he had to have gone more like 60k miles on that oil. I bet it was regularly ran low on oil too. I was floored at the amount of gunk in there. Love seeing your son in there learning.
big OOF! This hurts my soul, mine has a strange low end almost *knock* but it does not seem to increase with engine RPM, not sure what it is yet, might be timing, have heard a slight slap from the front end which i know is likely the notorious chain slack....hope i can get a timing job done SOON. I have switched to 5w 30 a while back luckily so hopefully that staves it off.
If the kiddo doesn't know yet who he's learning from, here's a small read up for him: Two years ago I was sent to Saudi Arabia on behalf of an engineering firm, and we were given an allocation of two Lincoln Town Car automobiles. One of those TCs took a dump on us in a week, and so, we were directed to bring it into a specific Ford dealer. While waiting for the dealer to come back with a document stating what was going to be done to the car, what do I see? A Filipino tech of theirs standing beside the Town Car watching a Fordtechmaculoco video on his laptop about some transmission stuff. It then dawned upon me that Brian is actually putting food on many many people's tables...globally.
I live in Saudi Arabia, and I can tell you that whatever they are reading, it is not working. Most of the million cars in tashliya (the wreckers) died through neglect and poor maintenance procedures. Mostly through downright abuse. These videos are good stuff an all, but this place has the worst 'mechanics' in history. Torque wrench? What's that? Just tighten it till one snaps, then you know it's good. Harmonic balancer spitting its rubber? Let's snot weld the outer to the inner with some mismatched pieces of angle line. What oil does the manufacturer recommend? That's not important. What's cheapest is the key. Let's roll these timing chains and camshafts around in the sand before we put them back in the engine we never covered during the last three dust storms.
Man Brian's son is very lucky to learn from one of the best in the industry. Just knowing there will be another "Brian" for years to come is peace of mind. Bravo sir great job as always
My 2007 Ford Expedition with 305,000 miles still sounds good. I recently replaced the valve cover gaskets, and mine was clean inside. Of course, I change the oil every 5,000 miles.
They spent the money for a "cheap" timing chain repair (aftermarket parts, not really a cheap procedure), but wouldn't spend the money on oil changes?! Fascinating! 🤑
This is not a fault of the triton. No motor could withstand this level of abuse. Things did not escalate to this level of severity overnight...not even over a week. Outright irresponsible vehicle operation. The regular driver(s) heard this thing jackhammering for at least a month, fair bet. Even before that, there must surely have been oil pressure light, check engine, rough running, rattling of 16 maracas, possible overheating... And nothing was done. I am in the group who's not a fan of mechanics-in-cans. But even some attempt of oil treatment would have greatly reduced the quantity of that mud. Just an oil change. Urinating into the valve cover would have thinned some of that crap. That poor motor was driven, for hundreds of miles, literally screaming for attention. It received none.
“ intelligent oil life monitor “ gives people the idea you can stretch out the oil change. At 50% left on the oil it is no longer able to lubricate. Would you put 50% oil back in ? People used to get real full service at a gas station. You would be lucky if they asked if you want a check right. People also used to have the engine cleaned on the outside. Mechanics see this every day and you see it with RUclips. Harder yet is to get a good tune/ engine service like a new PCV and clean the goop out of the hose and intake on an older engine. As a mechanic myself now retired one of my funniest memories of a boss trying to explain to a customer why his engine/ transmission were clogged up and the customer not getting the maintenance part he said well,,,just imagine if you never wiped your ass,,,oh 😮
I worked in a machine shop in the late 80s and once we had a local AMC/Jeep dealer bring us an AMC 360(or 401, can't remember for sure) that looked like that. Engine has less than 40K miles on it and needed a complete rebuild. Story from the dealer was that the owner had never changed the oil since the vehicle was bought new from them. Crazy.
im currently driving a subcompact which got it's pdi and no other service for 75k resulting in coil packs failing and subsequent engine requiring a rebuild . she was too busy having babies to service the car.
The old saying, pay me now, or pay me later still stands. As an old timer with many miles under his belt, proper care of any mechanical equipment will save you money in the long run, wishing you a speedy recovery. brother.
Some people just don't care, as long as it starts and drives, until a big repair cost they cry like a school girl, Fleet vehicles same way...they say oil change every 10k, problem is...the drivers don't check the oil and disaster happens. Just more money for us :) can't fix stupid.
I haven't seen anything that bad since the 1990s. I've taken down low and high mileage engines that haven't had good maintenance and they looked better than that. I just recently replaced a 60 k 8.1 that had the original oil filter on it! They didn't use it much but when they did it ran all day. Just kept toping off oil as needed. Well after many years the oil filter finally rusted out a the rest is history. Almost no filter media left in filter! I can't feel sorry for people who do this stuff. They live in beautiful homes, make a good living an have for the most part the best of everything but when it comes to dropping a hundred dollars a couple of times a year on some preventative maintenance they cheap out! Oil and filters will always be the least expensive thing you'll have to buy no matter how much it costs
Its so great that your son is learning the trade! Thank you for the detailed look at what an engine looks like, especially with the oil wasn't changed. That sludge looked incredibly gross!
My second comment on this video, one of your best I learned so much here with you explaining the operation of each part plays in the total picture. Your son must be a rockstar at school with his dad being the Wayne Gretzky of Ford vehicle's
How the hell do people let their engines get in such bad shape? If I just go 500 miles over my oil changes I get nervous or annoyed that I couldn’t do it sooner. This is just ridiculous!
I bought an old 1975 ford LTD back in 90. It had a little knock in it so I took the valve cover off and it looked just like this. So dig this. I took the other valve cover off and blew all the sludge out. Then I started engine and let the oil fly while adding diesel fuel to the oil pan. I just kept running it and blowing it off as the sludge kept on coming out. After a few minutes it cleared up. New valve cover gaskets and an engine cleaning and it was ready to go. I drove that $400 car 120 miles a day for two full years. What a car!
AS long as you don't plug the oil pickup with the crap out out of the head. Did that with a '69 440 Chrysler T&C Wagon. It was not that noisy if it ran below 1200 RPM. What sucked was pulling the oil pan. That meant pulling the engine. It also had only 90,000 miles on it. It went to a engine re-builder for another life in a Charger. The body got scrapped. Guess it was a company car. They do just enough routine maintenance to make it to the next round of tax write offs
Funny… we had a expedition come in to the ford dealer I use to work at with the same problem… we tore it down and yep… looked the same. Asked the customer about it and he said he used amsoil and it recommended oil change every 25k miles… 😂😂😂
Pretty good engine. Not too likely to see as many of them in the shop lol. The rear cylinders have inadequate cooling and can hurt pistons if it gets too hot. There is a coolant bypass kit for the back of the heads that makes a big difference
I worked in a small shop rebuilding engines in the early '70's. We would see sludge like that often and at around 50k to 70K miles - the oils were that bad. I'm shocked to see a modern engine this bad!
You are a continuing blessing to us all, thanks for the skilled reporting. There are obviously some engineering problems that "can" pose problems with that engine family. But when you see comments of people getting big mileage in many cases you have to have some suspicion about the basket cases that show up. Ignoring proper maintenance is the main culprit. Going the Ford interval for oil change is a significant contributor to engine failure too. I love the way you continue, over the years, to pound home the truth about engine performance, transmissions and other associated components on the fords. I hope you recover well from your recent surgery.
This is what is so scary when buying a used vehicle. From the outside you can’t tell lack of maintenance on components. If the engine looked like this then it’s a 100% chance no maintenance was done on the transmission, differentials or transfer case. All of them will be failing next.
Brian , wishing you a speedy recovery! Man that was thick sludge Thanks for the video. I'm going to do a timing job on my 06 5.4 3v 294k thanks to you ! Your contributions to my automotive knowledge has made a huge difference in my diy success and confidence. Thank you !
I have an old, relatively simple Ford 4.2L V6. At just under 320,000 miles, I had to open one rocker cover to repair a valvetrain issue. Failure was not due to lubrication failure, just looked like metal fatigue and (or) latent defect. There was NO varnish and very little sludge at all. Mostly just clean aluminum and steel. I've been using synthetic oil (whatever is on sale, usually Quaker State) and OEM filters for the last 200k miles. I've been using a 7,000 mile change interval, supported by used oil analysis. I've always though of synthetic oil as a "can't hurt, might help" situation, but now I am a true believer. Also, transmission is original, never needed any internal repairs. I change the fluid every 30-40k and avoid beating on it (though I'll drive hard if necessary).
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My mom has 2007 F-150 with 5.4 and 240,000 miles on it. Engine and transmission have never been touched. Over Christmas I changed the timing components, VVT, rockers, lifters, and oil pump. All are Ford parts and recommend oil pump. My mom says the truck run like brand new.
I think the title should say the OWNER killed the engine. The owner saved $300.00 in multiple oil changes but had to spend 7 grand or more for a new engine, that's a great financial move!!
with the reputation the 5.4's had with poor oiling, its still amazes me people wont change their oil on a timely basis.then complain when they have issues directly related to their own neglect.i guess they ARE getting what they deserve.a HUGE bill for replacement engine.oil is cheap.engines are not.
in my opinion, this kind of sludge is caused by motor oil absorbing combustion by-products (soot). Some soot acts as blow-up past the cylinder rings and is absorbed into the oil. When the oil becomes too contaminated it leaves these kind of sludge deposits. Also the piston ring gaps get so slugged the rings no longer seal correctly. And the oil scrapper ring passages gets plugged up, preventing the oil to return through the piston properly so the engine ends up burning oil. The easy way to prevent this is to change your oil!
Absolute stupidity destroyed this engine.Can you even imagine buying a new truck and ignoring oil changes?....You said this guy got a new engine?Well he didn't deserve it.
It's great to see a dad teaching his son auto mechanics., like my father taught me the skill some 45 years ago. I remember I was looking at a 1976 Olds 98 back in around 1983 for around $500.00 and it was a super clean car with a strange knocking noise. I recall calling my dad to take a look at it and he put his hand on my shoulder and he said to me "Listen to that noise very closely and always remember it. That's the sound of a rod knock. That motor is dead.,,, turn it off and let's go." Very oddly... a gen 1 351 Windsor alternator bearing can make the exactly same noise. And yes I pulled all the crank bearings and they were fine.. then the alternator seized up and the noise went away. Which is when I learned to always pull the belts before trouble shooting an internal engine noise. Every once in a lifetime, harmonic resonance will fool you.
True old school mechanic ethic. I had a tech doing a clutch job for me on a Mustang one time. After he got the job done, he told me that he needed to leave early. We found out the next day that the old clutch had fallen out of the car onto his toes. It bent the steel toe and partially severed his big toe. It happened at the start of the job but he kept working because he knew the car had to go that day and he wanted the 4 hours labor that put him at his bonus level. I have several stories like that with the old school guys I've worked with.
It's concerning that this issue was caused by a human behavior related issue (i.e., not changing the oil at the proper intervals). As the customer now has a re-man engine, the symptom (failed engine) has been addressed but the the cause of the issue (someone being good about oil changes) may not have been. I guess the customer can come back in another 40k miles for another re-man engine - keeps Brian in business (although, I'm willing to wager Brian would have reviewed this with the customer but, ultimately, it's up to the customer if they wanna avoid this or not )🤷
Change your oil, I never go more than 6 months on the current oil in my engine because I don't put a lot of miles on my Challenger per year (less than 5k)... on my Jeep GC 5.7 the oil is changed every 3k miles, it is 2015 but has almost 160k miles on it, I do Synth Blend, and every 50k I dump a full can of seafoam down the oil fill and run it for 300 miles than dump the oil it really helps clean up the engine. I had a 2010 Expedition I recently sold 10 months ago, 5.4 Eddie Bauer, fully loaded, I mean everything, had 289k on the clock started up and purred like a kitten, new owner took it for a pre-buy inspection and the shop said to them "BUY this, he has every receipt from day 1, the oil was practically new (previous oil change was 1500 miles prior to that)" and it has no misfires or slipping... Buyer came back the next day with a cashier's check for 8k and I see them now and again through town and they have it up to 300k already. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. Something taught to me by my dad, uncle, and grandfather... I am by the book on scheduled maintenance, I have a local shop I trust after dealer warranty expires and they have never ripped me off so I keep bringing it back to them, if they call and say "hey this or that will need replacing soon", I will normally just say do it now get it over with... Why put it off and possibly cause more damage? I had a 2005 Mustang GT Premium, also loaded, sold it to my neighbor for $5k it had 229k miles on it, I had only recently swapped the transmission because I was due for a clutch anyway and I had a trans with 10k on it sitting in my garage so did the clutch and put in the newer trans. Did the timing chain and tensioners, plus new oil pump and phasers at 125k and again at 210k, it was all original drivetrain until the trans swap... Neighbor had the rear rearbuilt and removed the factory 3.55's and changed to 3.73's, but this thing is still turn key start every morning... I know I hear it (Borla Atak exhaust system). SPending the money to keep it up pays off down the road. I know not everyone can afford to drop hundreds or thousands on repairs, but I set aside 10% of my weekly income to car maintenance, 10% for home maintenance 20% for savings the rest pays bills.
"LIKE" button has been torqued to the manufacturer's recommended specification. "CLICK". God forbid you should be running around with a loose "LIKE" button ! Get well soon !
Maaa-aaan is that nasty!!! I currently own a 2006 Expedition with the 5.4 ltr 3 valve motor and since I purchased it back in Jan. of last year then I've been changing the oil religiously between 4000 and 5000 miles. I don't want that happening to my engine. Right now I've got just under 150,000 miles on it and it is running good. And I'd like to keep it that way. An oil change is the very cheapest insurance that you can have for your motor.
Change your oil, at the minimum, every 5K miles people, with a good filter and a decent synthetic oil, do not fall for this once a year or every 10k miles nonsense. Also, concerning automatic transmissions, no such thing as lifetime fluid, do at least a simple drain and fill every 50k miles, and if it’s a CVT, I would say every 25k miles. I use only OEM for trans fluid, if not, do your research for recommended by manufacturer, as Hondas you can ONLY use Honda ATF, I used a brand recommended by Advance Auto, and trans felt like crap, drained it 2 times, 20 miles in between, and replaced with OEM Honda ATF, and felt good again.
He probably got suckered into the whole Amsoil 20,000 mile oil change or Mobil 1 extended protection 10,000 miles... I am sorry but even with full synthetic dont go over 5k miles unless you have a high quality oil bypass filter and do TBN testing. Its just not worth it, i dont care how fancy or expensive your oil is.
Some folks just don’t understand that regular oil & filter changes with quality parts are the cheapest insurance you’ll ever get for ANY engine! Service them regularly and Ol’ Uncle Rodney won’t come knocking! I feel sorry for whoever gets that core as a reman…
Give it a good cleaning, replace the damaged parts and put it back together and of course use a good pre-assembly lube, and then strongly encourage the owner to change the oil every 10,000 miles with Rotella 5W 40 T6
Neglect transitive verb 1. To pay little or no attention to; fail to heed; disregard. 2. To fail to care for or attend to properly. 3. To fail to do or carry out, as through carelessness or oversight. If all three apply, is that then abuse? I think so.
Only 140k miles did this much damage? It's definitely lack of oil changes. I bet they changed it only once every 2 years at best to do this much damage.
Do not follow the MFGs oil change intervals. Or the gauge on the dash that tells you when to change the oil. Run your vehicle no more than 5000 miles I been seeing a lot of engine failures on the internet. All running long oil change intervals.. That engine should have blown up years ago. Change your oil people
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This is why I run full synthetic 5000 mile oil and change it every 3000 miles, old school so I don't trust the 5000 mile oil changes plus these engines are known to self destruct if you breathe on them in the wrong way.
The owner probably just put oil in in and never changed the oil. I had a friend whose girlfriend only put oil in when that handy little "Oil" light came on the dash. It come on one day, she adds oil, goes another 1/2 mile or so, and the engine seized. It had been so long since the oil had been changed that hole had rusted through the oil filter... Amazing what an engine can take. Want more carnage? Check the oil in this teardown: ruclips.net/video/_j9vMzgnyfc/видео.html
This person bought into the Mobile 1 extended performance oil 🤣. I'm sure that oil could last that long with the right filter setup and a constant monitor of your TBN. Not sure why anyone would really want to let oil go that long but I follow the 5K mile OCI on our 2007 Expedition with the 5.4L 3V. I use a good synthetic (any brand) and add Hot Shots Secret FR3 to it. Every other OCI I add Stiction Eliminator. I believe she has 125K or so miles on the clock and she still purrs like a kitten. Sometimes you can't even tell the engine is running. All maintenance is cheap insurance.
The re-builder is gonna take one look at the internals of that engine and toss it right in the scrap pile, every bearing surface is toast, there is nothing left worth re-building.
I guess far too many people think as long as the car starts and drives that the car's just fine and life is sweet...then the car breaksdown and they blame the car
Thanks for sharing. You and your son would enjoy "I do cars" on youtube. He takes apart all kind of engines as he runs an auto recycle shop in St Louis. He is quite entertaining and is also preaching for people to change their oil.
When I first saw the short the other day, I quickly shared it to my Instagram story with the friendly PSA to change the oil on time. Last I checked, the average used vehicle price is a little over $28,000. Assuming you have the oil changed every 5,000 miles at the cost of $75 per oil change, and you drive the average 14,263 miles per year like the average American, it would take 134 years for you to spend the same amount of money as what the average used vehicle costs in just oil changes. Moral of the story, keeping up with the maintenance intervals will save you thousands on your vehicles in the long run.
Hello man, how are you? Are you on Mayarm? I have a question. I am a mechanic and I want to get an OASIS Ford account pts license. What is the method? Is there an email for them?
As the owner of a 2005 F150 5.4 with 325,000 miles and no engine problems I will say one thing… CHANGE YOUR OIL!!!
As a 2017 5.0 F150 owner I’m glad to hear your input on that number. Thanks
Definitely 🛻👍
Had a 2005 f150 5.4 had 232,600 did cam phasers guides and chains at 200k plugs are a nightmare to do
I have the same year F 150 5.4, 314,000 on mine. Yes, change your oil.
'06 5.4 3v w 263,000 miles... mostly hwy before the last 7 years. CHANGE MY OIL 2 X A YEAR, I do about 5-6,000 miles/year now... fluids, fluids, fluids!
Reminds me of the engines from the the 1950's and 1960's. Oils back then were no where's as good as today's oils so depending on maintenance back then would determine how much sludge was in the engine.
This engine had a bad life.
Thanks Brian for this video. Memories!
My grandpa used to talk about the Buick straight 8 he bought used. I guess he took the valve cover off and the sludge was so thick it was actually a mold of the valve cover. I remember him saying he had to build a small fire under the oil pan to get it to crank when it was really cold outside. 🥶 Can you imagine that today 😳
Pennzoil and Quaker State were sludge builders in the 70's when I worked at a GM dealership.
@@TheBigdog868 my buddy did same thing. 56 Chevy with NO OIL FILTER took valve cover off and it said Chevrolet in the sludge. He then got a bucket and spoon.
It was still good, though. Underneath the sludge build- up.
@@uncledoug9934 Was the single viscosity SAE 30 or 20 a bit better?
Valvoline ?
Was "DeLuxe" 10w - 40 the worst ?
@@davidpowell3347 it was mulit-viscosity 10-30 and 10-40 we used back then.
What a horrible crime scene!
Rest in peace Bearings! 😖
That engine was one good rev from blowing a rod. You caught it in the nick of time! Had it thrown a rod, you wouldn't have a core to rebuild.
i will say one thing....dont change your engine oil just drive and be happy....heck when car bliws up just buy another car but whatever u do never ever change the engine oil
That’s crazy. I ran amsoil signature in my 2008 fusion with the 2.3. Had to replace valve cover o rings about every 100k miles. At 310k she looked like new inside. Some very minor tinting from age. Camshaft looked exceptional for the mileage. I don’t do this anymore, but I changed oil every 20k miles or twice a year. I averaged about 35k miles a year. I regularly checked oil at fuel ups due to its age and rarely had to add oil. Maybe 1/2-3/4 qt between changes. Maybe I was just lucky. It was also an older basic engine with no vvt. Anyways that car died due to a deer and my Camry gets fresh oil every 5k.
Please don’t think this was a knock on what your saying. Love your videos. One of the best techs on YT. I was just thinking he had to have gone more like 60k miles on that oil. I bet it was regularly ran low on oil too. I was floored at the amount of gunk in there. Love seeing your son in there learning.
big OOF! This hurts my soul, mine has a strange low end almost *knock* but it does not seem to increase with engine RPM, not sure what it is yet, might be timing, have heard a slight slap from the front end which i know is likely the notorious chain slack....hope i can get a timing job done SOON. I have switched to 5w 30 a while back luckily so hopefully that staves it off.
Ahhhhhh, reynolds bearing foil.
If the kiddo doesn't know yet who he's learning from, here's a small read up for him: Two years ago I was sent to Saudi Arabia on behalf of an engineering firm, and we were given an allocation of two Lincoln Town Car automobiles. One of those TCs took a dump on us in a week, and so, we were directed to bring it into a specific Ford dealer. While waiting for the dealer to come back with a document stating what was going to be done to the car, what do I see? A Filipino tech of theirs standing beside the Town Car watching a Fordtechmaculoco video on his laptop about some transmission stuff. It then dawned upon me that Brian is actually putting food on many many people's tables...globally.
What year town car was it
and good food too. Education should never be an embarrassment even for a seasoned tech.
@@CoyoteFTW I'm calling third-gen
@@CoyoteFTW 2010 with about 28k KM on it.
I live in Saudi Arabia, and I can tell you that whatever they are reading, it is not working. Most of the million cars in tashliya (the wreckers) died through neglect and poor maintenance procedures. Mostly through downright abuse.
These videos are good stuff an all, but this place has the worst 'mechanics' in history. Torque wrench? What's that? Just tighten it till one snaps, then you know it's good. Harmonic balancer spitting its rubber? Let's snot weld the outer to the inner with some mismatched pieces of angle line. What oil does the manufacturer recommend? That's not important. What's cheapest is the key. Let's roll these timing chains and camshafts around in the sand before we put them back in the engine we never covered during the last three dust storms.
Man Brian's son is very lucky to learn from one of the best in the industry. Just knowing there will be another "Brian" for years to come is peace of mind. Bravo sir great job as always
Hopefully Brian can take it easier in a few years, he is looking overworked
I agree Walter. I'm very jealous of the education he is receiving from his dad
My 2007 Ford Expedition with 305,000 miles still sounds good. I recently replaced the valve cover gaskets, and mine was clean inside. Of course, I change the oil every 5,000 miles.
My Marquis just rolled over 450,000. It is clean as well, but the chains have play in them. Need to get a timing set installed.
Love the fact that you provide content that helps your son to get more than theory and classroom.
Wishing you a speedy recovery. Thanks for the great videos.
"Major surgery" Geeze, take care of yourself and don't worry about us RUclipsrs!
Get well my man!
They spent the money for a "cheap" timing chain repair (aftermarket parts, not really a cheap procedure), but wouldn't spend the money on oil changes?! Fascinating! 🤑
We used to call the owners of vehicles like this "Add a quart owners"....never change the oil, just add a quart every now and then....😄
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This is not a fault of the triton. No motor could withstand this level of abuse. Things did not escalate to this level of severity overnight...not even over a week.
Outright irresponsible vehicle operation. The regular driver(s) heard this thing jackhammering for at least a month, fair bet. Even before that, there must surely have been oil pressure light, check engine, rough running, rattling of 16 maracas, possible overheating... And nothing was done.
I am in the group who's not a fan of mechanics-in-cans. But even some attempt of oil treatment would have greatly reduced the quantity of that mud. Just an oil change.
Urinating into the valve cover would have thinned some of that crap. That poor motor was driven, for hundreds of miles, literally screaming for attention. It received none.
Brian,get well soon. Also as the saying goes oil is cheap, engines are not.
Hope you feel better soon Brian, I wonder if the 5 or 6 oil changes he skipped was cheaper than a new motor?
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Oil is cheap. Engines are not.
That's a lot of sludge!
I bet they only added oil and never changed it.
@@Markomyt1 Probably never checked the oil until the red light comes on
“ intelligent oil life monitor “ gives people the idea you can stretch out the oil change. At 50% left on the oil it is no longer able to lubricate. Would you put 50% oil back in ? People used to get real full service at a gas station. You would be lucky if they asked if you want a check right. People also used to have the engine cleaned on the outside. Mechanics see this every day and you see it with RUclips. Harder yet is to get a good tune/ engine service like a new PCV and clean the goop out of the hose and intake on an older engine. As a mechanic myself now retired one of my funniest memories of a boss trying to explain to a customer why his engine/ transmission were clogged up and the customer not getting the maintenance part he said well,,,just imagine if you never wiped your ass,,,oh 😮
I worked in a machine shop in the late 80s and once we had a local AMC/Jeep dealer bring us an AMC 360(or 401, can't remember for sure) that looked like that. Engine has less than 40K miles on it and needed a complete rebuild. Story from the dealer was that the owner had never changed the oil since the vehicle was bought new from them. Crazy.
im currently driving a subcompact which got it's pdi and no other service for 75k resulting in coil packs failing and subsequent engine requiring a rebuild . she was too busy having babies to service the car.
My daughter leases cars and doesn’t change the oil unless the dealership hounds her! Don’t assume a leased car ever had maintenance.
The old saying, pay me now, or pay me later still stands. As an old timer with many miles under his belt, proper care of any mechanical equipment will save you money in the long run, wishing you a speedy recovery. brother.
Scotty said, oil is cheap and engine cost a fortune.
Like the old Fram advertisment Said pay me now or pay me later in most cases a lot more later especially if you use the cheap Fram filter
Even the cheapest fram filter with proper oil changes at that many miles, it would look new still
never had issue with fram
My Dad always told me if nothing else change the "F"ing oil
Some people just don't care, as long as it starts and drives, until a big repair cost they cry like a school girl, Fleet vehicles same way...they say oil change every 10k, problem is...the drivers don't check the oil and disaster happens. Just more money for us :) can't fix stupid.
I haven't seen anything that bad since the 1990s. I've taken down low and high mileage engines that haven't had good maintenance and they looked better than that. I just recently replaced a 60 k 8.1 that had the original oil filter on it! They didn't use it much but when they did it ran all day. Just kept toping off oil as needed. Well after many years the oil filter finally rusted out a the rest is history. Almost no filter media left in filter! I can't feel sorry for people who do this stuff. They live in beautiful homes, make a good living an have for the most part the best of everything but when it comes to dropping a hundred dollars a couple of times a year on some preventative maintenance they cheap out! Oil and filters will always be the least expensive thing you'll have to buy no matter how much it costs
some people would rather change engines then oil lol those engines are 15000.00 $ in Canada
The bottom end are nearly indestructible on a stock 5.4. It takes real concerted negligence to thin out the rod bearings.
Its so great that your son is learning the trade! Thank you for the detailed look at what an engine looks like, especially with the oil wasn't changed. That sludge looked incredibly gross!
Buys car, doesn't do any maintenance, car breaks: "This brand sucks!"
Rinse and repeat...
My second comment on this video, one of your best I learned so much here with you explaining the operation of each part plays in the total picture. Your son must be a rockstar at school with his dad being the Wayne Gretzky of Ford vehicle's
How the hell do people let their engines get in such bad shape? If I just go 500 miles over my oil changes I get nervous or annoyed that I couldn’t do it sooner. This is just ridiculous!
Being a Ford tech is an extremely lucrative job. 😀
Not at all rewarding but very lucrative.
I bought an old 1975 ford LTD back in 90. It had a little knock in it so I took the valve cover off and it looked just like this. So dig this. I took the other valve cover off and blew all the sludge out. Then I started engine and let the oil fly while adding diesel fuel to the oil pan. I just kept running it and blowing it off as the sludge kept on coming out. After a few minutes it cleared up. New valve cover gaskets and an engine cleaning and it was ready to go. I drove that $400 car 120 miles a day for two full years. What a car!
That’s a really interesting process and I wouldn’t have guessed diesel fuel in the oil could ever be a good thing, I was proven wrong lol
@@bryanyokofich5021 We used diesel or kerosen to flush out those old VW engins,
AS long as you don't plug the oil pickup with the crap out out of the head. Did that with a '69 440 Chrysler T&C Wagon. It was not that noisy if it ran below 1200 RPM.
What sucked was pulling the oil pan. That meant pulling the engine.
It also had only 90,000 miles on it. It went to a engine re-builder for another life in a Charger. The body got scrapped.
Guess it was a company car. They do just enough routine maintenance to make it to the next round of tax write offs
Funny… we had a expedition come in to the ford dealer I use to work at with the same problem… we tore it down and yep… looked the same. Asked the customer about it and he said he used amsoil and it recommended oil change every 25k miles… 😂😂😂
Wishing a speedy recovery! Love the 5.4 content. As an owner of a 5.0 I would love more content on that motor.
Pretty good engine. Not too likely to see as many of them in the shop lol.
The rear cylinders have inadequate cooling and can hurt pistons if it gets too hot. There is a coolant bypass kit for the back of the heads that makes a big difference
Its not the engine sludge its the owner.
I worked in a small shop rebuilding engines in the early '70's. We would see sludge like that often and at around 50k to 70K miles - the oils were that bad. I'm shocked to see a modern engine this bad!
$30 of oil and a new filter every 5,000 miles, sad to see how people treat their vehicles. Makes you wonder how they treat their families.
You are a continuing blessing to us all, thanks for the skilled reporting. There are obviously some engineering problems that "can" pose problems with that engine family. But when you see comments of people getting big mileage in many cases you have to have some suspicion about the basket cases that show up. Ignoring proper maintenance is the main culprit. Going the Ford interval for oil change is a significant contributor to engine failure too. I love the way you continue, over the years, to pound home the truth about engine performance, transmissions and other associated components on the fords. I hope you recover well from your recent surgery.
This is what is so scary when buying a used vehicle. From the outside you can’t tell lack of maintenance on components. If the engine looked like this then it’s a 100% chance no maintenance was done on the transmission, differentials or transfer case. All of them will be failing next.
My old boss used to tell me to take a bore scope with me while shopping for used trucks. Lol
I hope you get well soon! It pains me to even watch that. It’s amazing how lazy or stupid some people are.
I hope all is well with your health great video thanx again take care!!!!!
I have one I’m working on that’s worse, wish I could send you a picture it’s the worst I’ve ever seen
Brian ; video is another Great presentation.
More importantly God has given you a A+ Core !
Don’t know what was wrong but Glad your OK !
Joe
You are a hardcore RUclipsr with great 5.4 knowledge. Praying quick recovery over illness.
Probably excessive idling & extended oil change intervals caused all of this mess 🤔
Hope you recover quickly.
It’s Super Toast with Black Sludge Jelly 😢
Brian , wishing you a speedy recovery!
Man that was thick sludge Thanks for the video. I'm going to do a timing job on my 06 5.4 3v 294k thanks to you ! Your contributions to my automotive knowledge has made a huge difference in my diy success and confidence. Thank you !
I did mine 5 years ago still running good over 210k miles, makes sure you upgrade the oil pump he recommends
That engine still had a good 250k miles left on it.
I have an old, relatively simple Ford 4.2L V6. At just under 320,000 miles, I had to open one rocker cover to repair a valvetrain issue. Failure was not due to lubrication failure, just looked like metal fatigue and (or) latent defect.
There was NO varnish and very little sludge at all. Mostly just clean aluminum and steel. I've been using synthetic oil (whatever is on sale, usually Quaker State) and OEM filters for the last 200k miles. I've been using a 7,000 mile change interval, supported by used oil analysis. I've always though of synthetic oil as a "can't hurt, might help" situation, but now I am a true believer.
Also, transmission is original, never needed any internal repairs. I change the fluid every 30-40k and avoid beating on it (though I'll drive hard if necessary).
I’m NERVOUSLY asking, what was your valvetrain issue?
Why would someone abuse an engine to that degree?
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My mom has 2007 F-150 with 5.4 and 240,000 miles on it. Engine and transmission have never been touched. Over Christmas I changed the timing components, VVT, rockers, lifters, and oil pump. All are Ford parts and recommend oil pump. My mom says the truck run like brand new.
I think the title should say the OWNER killed the engine. The owner saved $300.00 in multiple oil changes but had to spend 7 grand or more for a new engine, that's a great financial move!!
with the reputation the 5.4's had with poor oiling, its still amazes me people wont change their oil on a timely basis.then complain when they have issues directly related to their own neglect.i guess they ARE getting what they deserve.a HUGE bill for replacement engine.oil is cheap.engines are not.
in my opinion, this kind of sludge is caused by motor oil absorbing combustion by-products (soot). Some soot acts as blow-up past the cylinder rings and is absorbed into the oil. When the oil becomes too contaminated it leaves these kind of sludge deposits. Also the piston ring gaps get so slugged the rings no longer seal correctly. And the oil scrapper ring passages gets plugged up, preventing the oil to return through the piston properly so the engine ends up burning oil. The easy way to prevent this is to change your oil!
Awesome video Brian. Take it easy and get some rest so you heal properly the first time. Speedy recovery.
Absolute stupidity destroyed this engine.Can you even imagine buying a new truck and ignoring oil changes?....You said this guy got a new engine?Well he didn't deserve it.
It's great to see a dad teaching his son auto mechanics., like my father taught me the skill some 45 years ago.
I remember I was looking at a 1976 Olds 98 back in around 1983 for around $500.00 and it was a super clean car with a strange knocking noise. I recall calling my dad to take a look at it and he put his hand on my shoulder and he said to me "Listen to that noise very closely and always remember it. That's the sound of a rod knock. That motor is dead.,,, turn it off and let's go."
Very oddly... a gen 1 351 Windsor alternator bearing can make the exactly same noise. And yes I pulled all the crank bearings and they were fine.. then the alternator seized up and the noise went away. Which is when I learned to always pull the belts before trouble shooting an internal engine noise. Every once in a lifetime, harmonic resonance will fool you.
I just had major surgery last night. Gets up the next morning and heads to the shop...
True old school mechanic ethic. I had a tech doing a clutch job for me on a Mustang one time. After he got the job done, he told me that he needed to leave early. We found out the next day that the old clutch had fallen out of the car onto his toes. It bent the steel toe and partially severed his big toe. It happened at the start of the job but he kept working because he knew the car had to go that day and he wanted the 4 hours labor that put him at his bonus level.
I have several stories like that with the old school guys I've worked with.
That engine sounded all kinds of terrible.
It's concerning that this issue was caused by a human behavior related issue (i.e., not changing the oil at the proper intervals). As the customer now has a re-man engine, the symptom (failed engine) has been addressed but the the cause of the issue (someone being good about oil changes) may not have been. I guess the customer can come back in another 40k miles for another re-man engine - keeps Brian in business (although, I'm willing to wager Brian would have reviewed this with the customer but, ultimately, it's up to the customer if they wanna avoid this or not )🤷
Have you seen the price of engines lately? The pain of paying that should be a teaching moment.
Change your oil, I never go more than 6 months on the current oil in my engine because I don't put a lot of miles on my Challenger per year (less than 5k)... on my Jeep GC 5.7 the oil is changed every 3k miles, it is 2015 but has almost 160k miles on it, I do Synth Blend, and every 50k I dump a full can of seafoam down the oil fill and run it for 300 miles than dump the oil it really helps clean up the engine.
I had a 2010 Expedition I recently sold 10 months ago, 5.4 Eddie Bauer, fully loaded, I mean everything, had 289k on the clock started up and purred like a kitten, new owner took it for a pre-buy inspection and the shop said to them "BUY this, he has every receipt from day 1, the oil was practically new (previous oil change was 1500 miles prior to that)" and it has no misfires or slipping...
Buyer came back the next day with a cashier's check for 8k and I see them now and again through town and they have it up to 300k already. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. Something taught to me by my dad, uncle, and grandfather... I am by the book on scheduled maintenance, I have a local shop I trust after dealer warranty expires and they have never ripped me off so I keep bringing it back to them, if they call and say "hey this or that will need replacing soon", I will normally just say do it now get it over with... Why put it off and possibly cause more damage? I had a 2005 Mustang GT Premium, also loaded, sold it to my neighbor for $5k it had 229k miles on it, I had only recently swapped the transmission because I was due for a clutch anyway and I had a trans with 10k on it sitting in my garage so did the clutch and put in the newer trans. Did the timing chain and tensioners, plus new oil pump and phasers at 125k and again at 210k, it was all original drivetrain until the trans swap... Neighbor had the rear rearbuilt and removed the factory 3.55's and changed to 3.73's, but this thing is still turn key start every morning... I know I hear it (Borla Atak exhaust system).
SPending the money to keep it up pays off down the road.
I know not everyone can afford to drop hundreds or thousands on repairs, but I set aside 10% of my weekly income to car maintenance, 10% for home maintenance 20% for savings the rest pays bills.
Feel better and speedy recovery. Great video and wonderful teaching your son and properly equipping him for life . Bravo as a father !
"LIKE" button has been torqued to the manufacturer's recommended specification. "CLICK". God forbid you should be running around with a loose "LIKE" button ! Get well soon !
Maaa-aaan is that nasty!!! I currently own a 2006 Expedition with the 5.4 ltr 3 valve motor and since I purchased it back in Jan. of last year then I've been changing the oil religiously between 4000 and 5000 miles. I don't want that happening to my engine. Right now I've got just under 150,000 miles on it and it is running good. And I'd like to keep it that way. An oil change is the very cheapest insurance that you can have for your motor.
Change your oil, at the minimum, every 5K miles people, with a good filter and a decent synthetic oil, do not fall for this once a year or every 10k miles nonsense. Also, concerning automatic transmissions, no such thing as lifetime fluid, do at least a simple drain and fill every 50k miles, and if it’s a CVT, I would say every 25k miles. I use only OEM for trans fluid, if not, do your research for recommended by manufacturer, as Hondas you can ONLY use Honda ATF, I used a brand recommended by Advance Auto, and trans felt like crap, drained it 2 times, 20 miles in between, and replaced with OEM Honda ATF, and felt good again.
He probably got suckered into the whole Amsoil 20,000 mile oil change or Mobil 1 extended protection 10,000 miles... I am sorry but even with full synthetic dont go over 5k miles unless you have a high quality oil bypass filter and do TBN testing. Its just not worth it, i dont care how fancy or expensive your oil is.
Some folks just don’t understand that regular oil & filter changes with quality parts are the cheapest insurance you’ll ever get for ANY engine! Service them regularly and Ol’ Uncle Rodney won’t come knocking! I feel sorry for whoever gets that core as a reman…
Give it a good cleaning, replace the damaged parts and put it back together and of course use a good pre-assembly lube, and then strongly encourage the owner to change the oil every 10,000 miles with Rotella 5W 40 T6
I live by the adage: oil is cheap, engines aren’t. Especially since I drive a 6.0 liter. Hope you get well soon…
Speedy recovery buddy. Thanks for making videos
Neglect
transitive verb
1. To pay little or no attention to; fail to heed; disregard.
2. To fail to care for or attend to properly.
3. To fail to do or carry out, as through carelessness or oversight.
If all three apply, is that then abuse? I think so.
Only 140k miles did this much damage? It's definitely lack of oil changes. I bet they changed it only once every 2 years at best to do this much damage.
Do not follow the MFGs oil change intervals. Or the gauge on the dash that tells you when to change the oil.
Run your vehicle no more than 5000 miles
I been seeing a lot of engine failures on the internet. All running long oil change intervals..
That engine should have blown up years ago.
Change your oil people
Bro ' take care yourself, surgery last night, voice is horse, dang Brother ' you need rest, for pete's sake go get some sleep we / I don't want you dieing on us . . .🙏👍🏁🏆
This is why I run full synthetic 5000 mile oil and change it every 3000 miles, old school so I don't trust the 5000 mile oil changes plus these engines are known to self destruct if you breathe on them in the wrong way.
Geeze bud, you sound awful. I hope you get better soon.
The owner probably just put oil in in and never changed the oil.
I had a friend whose girlfriend only put oil in when that handy little "Oil" light came on the dash.
It come on one day, she adds oil, goes another 1/2 mile or so, and the engine seized. It had been so long since the oil had been changed that hole had rusted through the oil filter... Amazing what an engine can take.
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This person bought into the Mobile 1 extended performance oil 🤣. I'm sure that oil could last that long with the right filter setup and a constant monitor of your TBN. Not sure why anyone would really want to let oil go that long but I follow the 5K mile OCI on our 2007 Expedition with the 5.4L 3V. I use a good synthetic (any brand) and add Hot Shots Secret FR3 to it. Every other OCI I add Stiction Eliminator. I believe she has 125K or so miles on the clock and she still purrs like a kitten. Sometimes you can't even tell the engine is running. All maintenance is cheap insurance.
That spun bearing was crazy, I was like there is no way it wore its self away and yet it did. Hope your feeling better soon!
Good Lord thats awful…dont understand why people wont spend $40 but wonder why now they have to spend $5000-$10000
amazing how people spend big big $$$$$ and trash their cars. On a personal note, get well soon
The re-builder is gonna take one look at the internals of that engine and toss it right in the scrap pile, every bearing surface is toast, there is nothing left worth re-building.
I guess far too many people think as long as the car starts and drives that the car's just fine and life is sweet...then the car breaksdown and they blame the car
Someone went to them oil change shops. And they will use conventional oil. Unless you tell them to use what the factory calls for...
That is one tough engine to be running in that condition.
I cannot believe people don't change their oil. It is so much cheaper than changing your engine....
👍👍😎✌️🤟Pay me now, or pay me a lot more later! Now, where have I heard that before?
Thanks for sharing. You and your son would enjoy "I do cars" on youtube. He takes apart all kind of engines as he runs an auto recycle shop in St Louis. He is quite entertaining and is also preaching for people to change their oil.
Gracias por tus consejos cambiaré el aseite más seguido en mi for f150 06 5.4
When I first saw the short the other day, I quickly shared it to my Instagram story with the friendly PSA to change the oil on time. Last I checked, the average used vehicle price is a little over $28,000. Assuming you have the oil changed every 5,000 miles at the cost of $75 per oil change, and you drive the average 14,263 miles per year like the average American, it would take 134 years for you to spend the same amount of money as what the average used vehicle costs in just oil changes. Moral of the story, keeping up with the maintenance intervals will save you thousands on your vehicles in the long run.
lol who ever said that isn't a rod knock noise obvisouly has never worked on a car , could tell straight away it was bottom end/rod noise 🤣
Hello man, how are you? Are you on Mayarm? I have a question. I am a mechanic and I want to get an OASIS Ford account pts license. What is the method? Is there an email for them?
Looks like 90W Tapioca! Dumb & Cheap owners continue to keep our repair shops afloat!