Thanks. Yes, I've tried several minimalist sandals. As I said in the video, there'e minimal protection for feet, and I don't think I could carry a full backpack in them if needed.
Hi Bart. On the AT I used a Croc like shoe that I think I bought at Walmart. The plastic is different than the real Crocs but hold up very well. I only used them as a camp shoe so I don't know what they would be like to hike it but in a pinch, they would be better than barefoot! I paid around $4 dollars and they are half the weight of Crocs. I still use them on the boat. Looking forward to your updates. Happy hiking.
So I went to WalMart today and bought a pair of Croc knock offs. My Crocs are 16 oz. The WalMart knock offs are 12.5 oz. So yeah, there is a 3.5 oz savings. Will I carry them or donate them to a hiker box? Dunno...
3.5 oz is nothing to sneeze at! Just for fun I put my camp shoes on the baking scale and they came in at 8.4 oz for the pair! The brand is called " no boundaries" made in China of course and they are size 10. Cheers
Combined with the rain and humidity, here on the East Coast, I would definitely want some kind of camp shoe. This is probably not as big of an issue out West, in the heat of summer.
--yeah, I had a pair of Bedrock Cairn Pro's. They are solid sandals. But I sold them. They were heavy, about 21 oz per pair of size 12. Also the sole was super dense, (no cushion) so I don't know how far I could walk in them when carrying a full backpack. The sole was also stone flat. They could have built in at least a little arch support. --Luna's are also solid, similar to the Bedrocks, but lighter. Maybe Luna's are like in between a Xero and a Bedrock. --Then there's the issue of needing Injinji's if you have to walk in them.
Bart, have you looked at the Aleader Slip-On Clogs? They are sold on Amazon. They are what I use for camp shoes, you can even were socks with them. I have crossed rivers with them; no issues. Best of all they are really light..
Thanks for the suggestion. I looked at those on Amazon. Looks like a good water show. Looks like size 12's weigh 10.5 oz. That's pretty light. I'm not sure how long I could hike in them with a full pack though
Take a pair of ankle length seal skinz waterproof socks (2.4 oz). Wear your regular socks while hiking but wear the Seal Skinz in camp with your trail runners and your feet stay dry and warm, and you have a back up pair of socks. Got this idea from Bungy’s ultralight channel.
I'd have to think about that. So I walk into camp with wet socks and wet shoes. Then I put on dry waterproof socks with the wet shoes. Then when I go to bed I would take off the wet (on the outside) waterproof socks and put on dry regular socks. Wouldn't I then have to deal with 2 pairs of wet socks instead of one pair?
My money is always on the Crocs. The main reason is that in the morning, if i have used my shoes to cross rivers in, they will be frozen. Crocs avoid that. Takes a moment but to me it seems worth it.
Hey. Yeah, I had a pair of Z trails but I sold them. (For me), they were difficult to put on (especially at 2AM), there was no cushion, your toes are very exposed when hiking, and I didn't see how I could hike with them for more than a mile if I had to. But I agree, for the right person they're good pack shoes.
I carry Xero camp shoes. They weigh just over 12 oz. I don't like them that much and I did injure something in one foot when my foot stepped on a root in a weird way. So they do protect the bottom of your feet but they don't offer that much support. It's the old saying, what do you do? Bread bag, anyone? LOL What's a hiker to do? John from MI
@@onthetrailwithbart523 I completely agree. When my foot twisted, I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to continue my hike. I was pretty mad at those shoes and the limited protection they provided.
Hey! So size 10 is about 7 oz per shoe, so 14 oz per pair. Size 12 (my size) would probably be around 8 oz, so 16 oz per pair, which would be more than the Crocs. I don't think there would be enough cushion (for me) to walk any appreciable distance with a 20 pound pack. Those would be similar to other "water" shoes. The sole would be very soft and malleable with a light weight upper. But I agree, Lems are great shoes and they would compress down flatter than Crocs could.
Yup. The good of Teva's is the sole is soft and provides some cushion. There actually is some arch support. They're not as difficult to slip on as say Xero Z-Trail sandals. The thicknest of soles gives you SOME protection for your toes when walking. Maybe what I need are 10oz slip on trail shoes, (so 5 oz per shoe?)...probably not gonna happen.
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Thanks. Yes, I've tried several minimalist sandals. As I said in the video, there'e minimal protection for feet, and I don't think I could carry a full backpack in them if needed.
Hi Bart. On the AT I used a Croc like shoe that I think I bought at Walmart. The plastic is different than the real Crocs but hold up very well. I only used them as a camp shoe so I don't know what they would be like to hike it but in a pinch, they would be better than barefoot! I paid around $4 dollars and they are half the weight of Crocs. I still use them on the boat. Looking forward to your updates. Happy hiking.
Thanks for the info!
So I went to WalMart today and bought a pair of Croc knock offs. My Crocs are 16 oz. The WalMart knock offs are 12.5 oz. So yeah, there is a 3.5 oz savings.
Will I carry them or donate them to a hiker box? Dunno...
3.5 oz is nothing to sneeze at! Just for fun I put my camp shoes on the baking scale and they came in at 8.4 oz for the pair! The brand is called " no boundaries" made in China of course and they are size 10. Cheers
@@gregg9135 boy, that is light. I'll keep looking when I'm in WalMarts.
Combined with the rain and humidity, here on the East Coast, I would definitely want some kind of camp shoe. This is probably not as big of an issue out West, in the heat of summer.
Also, there aren't many dedicated stream crossings on the AT...
Videos look like most streams are small, or there's a log bridge.
But probably most people's feet are wet from good ole steady rain for days.
Bart, I use Luna Sandals that seem to have multi-uses. Bedrock Sandals are also my go-to choices!
--yeah, I had a pair of Bedrock Cairn Pro's. They are solid sandals. But I sold them. They were heavy, about 21 oz per pair of size 12. Also the sole was super dense, (no cushion) so I don't know how far I could walk in them when carrying a full backpack. The sole was also stone flat. They could have built in at least a little arch support.
--Luna's are also solid, similar to the Bedrocks, but lighter. Maybe Luna's are like in between a Xero and a Bedrock.
--Then there's the issue of needing Injinji's if you have to walk in them.
Bart, have you looked at the Aleader Slip-On Clogs? They are sold on Amazon. They are what I use for camp shoes, you can even were socks with them. I have crossed rivers with them; no issues. Best of all they are really light..
Thanks for the suggestion. I looked at those on Amazon. Looks like a good water show. Looks like size 12's weigh 10.5 oz. That's pretty light. I'm not sure how long I could hike in them with a full pack though
Take a pair of ankle length seal skinz waterproof socks (2.4 oz). Wear your regular socks while hiking but wear the Seal Skinz in camp with your trail runners and your feet stay dry and warm, and you have a back up pair of socks. Got this idea from Bungy’s ultralight channel.
I'd have to think about that. So I walk into camp with wet socks and wet shoes. Then I put on dry waterproof socks with the wet shoes. Then when I go to bed I would take off the wet (on the outside) waterproof socks and put on dry regular socks. Wouldn't I then have to deal with 2 pairs of wet socks instead of one pair?
My money is always on the Crocs. The main reason is that in the morning, if i have used my shoes to cross rivers in, they will be frozen. Crocs avoid that. Takes a moment but to me it seems worth it.
Thanks for the input!
I have the xero z-trail sandals and love them
Hey. Yeah, I had a pair of Z trails but I sold them. (For me), they were difficult to put on (especially at 2AM), there was no cushion, your toes are very exposed when hiking, and I didn't see how I could hike with them for more than a mile if I had to. But I agree, for the right person they're good pack shoes.
I carry Xero camp shoes. They weigh just over 12 oz. I don't like them that much and I did injure something in one foot when my foot stepped on a root in a weird way. So they do protect the bottom of your feet but they don't offer that much support. It's the old saying, what do you do? Bread bag, anyone? LOL What's a hiker to do? John from MI
in my mind, protecting feet from injury is job ONE.
The machine comes to a halt without feet...
@@onthetrailwithbart523 I completely agree. When my foot twisted, I was worried that I wouldn’t be able to continue my hike. I was pretty mad at those shoes and the limited protection they provided.
I'm jumping in late after binge watching your videos, what is your go to hiking boot? Inserts?
Ive used a custom orthotic by a company in Portland called Fitthotic.com.
I’ve always used Altra Timp’s
What about a pair of Lems Primal2? Only 7 ounces. Actually 6.9. Very comfortable. Compress very flat. Dry quickly too.
Hey! So size 10 is about 7 oz per shoe, so 14 oz per pair.
Size 12 (my size) would probably be around 8 oz, so 16 oz per pair, which would be more than the Crocs.
I don't think there would be enough cushion (for me) to walk any appreciable distance with a 20 pound pack.
Those would be similar to other "water" shoes. The sole would be very soft and malleable with a light weight upper.
But I agree, Lems are great shoes and they would compress down flatter than Crocs could.
I use Tevas. Gotta just deal with the weight.
Yup. The good of Teva's is the sole is soft and provides some cushion. There actually is some arch support. They're not as difficult to slip on as say Xero Z-Trail sandals. The thicknest of soles gives you SOME protection for your toes when walking.
Maybe what I need are 10oz slip on trail shoes, (so 5 oz per shoe?)...probably not gonna happen.