Divinegon I’m 19 and I can’t recall my dad ever entering my room to just ask about the games that I play, just do dishes and take trash out.... Caring really is enough.
My father is very accuractely depicted in this meme, throughout my childhood he would always poke his head through the door with a silly but genuine grin on his face and ask something to the affect of "how's it going" or "is it [my computer] working?" (those times that I got a new game, console or part for my PC). Sometimes I felt like he was a bit abrasive and I would actually recoil at his touch, he would rough me up like grabbing my shoulders and shake me in excitement. I often felt like that was unnecessary and disruptive to my gameplay and I sometimes felt like he didn't know what he was asking about so it seems shallow or meaningless to reply with "good, great, thanks" or whatever, connecting with him over it seemed useless and even impossible. He passed away in november '19 after years of cancer and during those years I got the time to reflect over all of his idiosyncrasies like and today I realize that they are the most treasured memories I have, out of anything I can remember. Those are moments where I could've let him in and included him in my #1 hobby, doing so might have set me on a different path later on... maybe it was never meant to be like, either way - I miss him to death and I really don't have anyone I can talk to about this so, here you go. If you're a 13, 14, 15 y.o guy who thinks your dad is a bumbling buffoon who doesn't "get it"... Just know that I was like you and one day you will be like I am now, just like how I am like my father when he was 28 and he was like his father, and his father, and his father, and his father... No matter how much some things change, some things are immutable. Because of this meme, whenever his memory walztes in through the back door of my present mind, I will know what to say.
Your comment made me realize that perhaps sometimes it is us who dont get the layers underneath our parents daily lifes and actions. And they probably know that our unexperience prevents us to understand the nuances of our social interactions with them as much as their lack of modern knowledge can also create a barrier. This is actually getting me feel really sad.... its like we are bound to never understad each other, forever interacting with them through these superficial interactions for eternity, generation after generation, so on and so on
@@lolaurabc I think you're right that parents and their children can have a very hard time communicating and relating to each other but I think it's really only during your teens and early twenties. Eventually you "grow up" and come to realize that your parents are people just like yourself and you can start to really relate to them, on a level field. When you're a small child, not yet into your teenage years I think interaction between parents and children in a healthy relationship is the most genuine there is. Don't be sad, just love your parents back :)
I mean 50% win rate is pretty common if you win alot matchmaking puts you up against stronger opponents so you start losing ,then if you lose a lot match making puts you against easier opponents so it always kindof balances to 50%,unless you're smurfing.
People act like their dad’s didn’t go through the same thing. Growing into a man with the pressure of the world is nothing new. The reason Dad’s are the way they are is because they DO understand. They try to put your mind at ease with their tone and lame dad jokes. They’re trying to remind you that they still love you, you’re still their son, you’re still their little boy. They know that the world crippled you mentally and they want to ease that pain. Stop acting like your parents don’t understand. They do a whole lot more than you may think. They were young too. They had to grow too. They had to learn too. Young people need to stop thinking their problems are unique to them. Every generation goes through this. And hey, it could be worse. You could’ve been shipped to Normandy at 18. You could’ve been drafted into Vietnam. You live an easier life than they did.
Don't EVER downplay other's suffering, it's the most ignorant thing you can do and often comes from a place of privilege. I believe in people telling others that their lives are in their own hands and what not, but you cannot be so ignorant as to say other's lives are easier.
@@ketz_165 the second u say "place of privilege" your arguement loses credibility. Otherwise you're correct! Don't use meaningless sjw phrases or intelligent people will tune you out
"The Boomer is someone who has adjusted to reality, not someone who merely had it easier." As I settle into my late 30s with kids of my own these word made clear something I couldnt simplify so well. This explains fathers including my own so well. Keep up the good work!
When memes begin to make you question your existence as a 27 y/o father of a 7 y/o which at the same time has this kind of relationship with his 57 y/o father...
There is an interesting phrase I heard from my grandfather once (It's a translation from Russian). "It's always like this, the old think the young are foolish, the young think the old don't get it. Same for me, both old and young." This conflict is neverending, it's just that memes show it better.
@@kevinmclaughlin615 There's always a conflict between the young and the old generation. My grandad had to deal with his parents' constant demonization of anything foreign to a point where they kicked him out at age 16 for finding out that he got his hands on some illegally imported Cola and cutting contacts for years. My dad had to deal with my grandfather's inherent push towards the military lifestyle, even though it long has become a sign of poverty and a lack of choices in Russia instead of the respectfulness it got in the USSR, so much so that they had gotten into physical confrontations. I still argue with my Dad about my choice of profession, considering that to him the only good jobs are an engineer or a scientist due to the fact that those jobs allowed you to get into a foreign company in the 90s, escaping poverty and danger. There was never a generation where there was a mutual understanding between father and son, the differences are too big and the reason that it is being discussed right now is not that the divide is the biggest, but the current young generation has the loudest voice in all of history.
True. Its interesting the attitude of Boomers, since they're the "baby boomers" after a fucking war. There was a huge disparity in values between those two generations, especially here in the UK where the country was in the thick of it during WW2. Yet they learned no lessons from that, and carry on the cycle. Millenials need to be better now that some in this generation already are having/had kids.
This reminds me of the meme with the pre-teen girl listening to Billie Eilish telling the father that he wouldn't understand how deeply depressed she is. It is sheer hubris of the next generation. Totem and Taboo.
YoU DonT UnDeRstAnD mE even though the dad probably has major health issues and is losing his hair. Oh we do understand but you better enjoy your youth now because it's not gonna get magically better sorry
My grandad used to do this and I miss those days. He'd say things like "You gotta kill the zombies in the head with the shotgun" while I was playing fantasy RPGs. Good times.
Dude, try explaining memes to an older relative. The amount of knowledge required to pick up on a meme can't be underestimated. We "get it" because we've spent years on the net picking up that knowledge. I've tried to explain memes but, honestly, I've given up because I'm not eloquent enough to confer years worth of knowledge in a way that quickly and succinctly explains a meme.
Erich Same here when I first got into memes I understood nothing but now I somehow just get it, I somehow Ijust relate to what I see without really seeing it
Erich I feel this frustration. I’m pretty well versed in meme culture and try to share my videos with my mother (a very smart woman), but she just can’t piece it together. It feels like our generation created a whole new island.
This meme reminds me of a reality check because of the fact that you will always remember a father close to you, than a satisfying game moment. Heck I don't even have a proper gaming setup but as I'm growing up, I'm not considering buying a gaming setup since that happiness and satisfaction will eventually deteriorate into depression and addiction. It always goes: Money doesn't make you happy. I'm sorry if I made anyone sad :(
This channel gives memes a philosophical meaning, that seemingly have the only purpose of getting an XDDDDD from someone. Never could've done it myself...stringing together the messages from ancient people and texts. Very interesting, and I'm glad to have found this channel.
People really miss the depth of (fact for some, idea for some) God taking upon Himself human nature and going to the limits of human forsakeness, to suffer with us.
Strangely or not, this fits well with my personal experience and the ambivalence I feel towards my own dad. (And that I felt he was ignorant towards my suffering.) Strangely, I rejected what my dad taught me, but interestingly, at the same time, I somewhat achieved what my dad dreamt and hoped of me to achieve in life. Thus, in a certain way, I can answer the question of "are ya winning son?" with "yes".
@@TaylorWilmes In some cases they have become more "simulations" than actual games. Take Flight simulators, The Sims or even Animal Crossing. But of course It is not so easy to define "game". Is a race a game? Is solving a maze a game? One might say that it is a puzzle, but what if it involved beating a very simple inbuilt AI as in the case of Theseus and the Minotaur? Does beating it count as winning? What would be the difference between this and killing endless monsters in a modern day rogue like? www.logicmazes.com/theseus.html
Explain him that not all games are about competition. Some are just about giving a strong vibe, some are made to relax, some are made to simulate another historical period, some are made to live a unique experience. Maybe by telling him how deep and complex the videogames world is he will understand more about it, and he will stop thinking that they are just a waste of time. I think everyone should do this
0:17 if the father's even present. Way too many kids growing up without one around. I was one of them. EDIT: Which, I get thats not the point of this video. That was the first thing that came to my mind as Im watching through. The dad and son have an unproductive conversation, one where they're talking past each other. It's sad because it's a further expression of the growing disconnect between people - even those related by flesh and blood. But hey, at least the dad is there and is trying to connect, even if it doesn't go anywhere. It's a shaky base to strengthen connections but it can be built and improved upon.
I am sorry to hear that, i would miss a huge part what made me a man, which i absorbed from my dad. We have a very good bond and do many projects together, like repairing our cars or building stuff at his house, looking movies together etc. I would wish everybody to have a dad like i have!
@@Gaphalor Yup, people need to be upfront and honest, if you have a problem, and want help, then be direct. You can't say no one understands you, if you haven't put in the effort to make those close to you recognize your problems. This goes beyond parental relationships but also having relationships in general. I'm lucky to have a father who I have a very close bond with, who I can have healthy discussions with. Not many people have that luxury, let alone even have a father. Moral is that seeking help directly would be the best thing you can do if you're not understood.
@@sebastianswan7975 yea very true words, you cant expect your parents or people in general to read your mind, you need to tell them whats bothering you!
Jesus Christ, Ya Rabbi. I came here expecting to get a quick lol, but instead, the video opens up a kind of an old wound I've rarely, if ever, addressed at all. This video, rudimentary it may be in its visual presentation, is concised and articulated in terms of content. Kudos OP. Rarely a video hits hard at home.
@Spaceman Spiff I think the video wasnt really good because he just did the same he complained about. He didnt really look at reality but instead through his Jungian glasses. He forgets that he can not explain such things without backing it with facts although he criticized doomers for defying reality themselves.
@@yurekwonka4482 I didn't criticize doomers for defying reality, exactly the opposite, they witness misery and cease to move, they must become artists and produce values and beauty to justify life.
@@MemeAnalysis Sorry defying was the wrong word (english is not my first language) i meant that doomers acknowledge reality but refuse to interact with it and thus spiraling down in a psychosis of misery, resentment and lack of motivation. But my first point still stands. You are not providing any hard evidence. Dont understand me wrong i like this other view you are providing to social problems but all you are doing is throwing another hypothesis in the room without going any further. I think that as you said the experience of painful maturity is not new. Every generation has its problems and obstacles but the extent of pain that one must endure is getting bigger and bigger. The problem is not only the growing corporatism and its socioeconomic implications but also the digitalization. Adapting to reality as some would argue is part of growing up today means adapting to a unnatural way of life. I am not a naturalist pledging for living in the woods but it becomes harder to escape and detach from the digital world. There are numerous studies exploring the effects of early smartphone use for example that show that the brain doesnt evolve as much as a normal kid playing in the wilderness and dirt would. We are working against human nature and we can feel it but cant or dont want rationalize it. Yeah we can adapt. Thats the whole reason humanity evolved so quickly but at what cost. Progress is not alway progress. So my point is that this time it is different it is harder because adapting nowerdays means to reject human nature.
My dad would ask me this when I was farming raiding mats in WoW circa like 2007. I haven't seen the old man in years, every time I see this meme I think of him.
Having an anime girl Is not weird, you just apreciate an art style, is like you would put a female character of a videogame as wallpaper, nothing wrong
Not to disagree with the body of this essay, but I don't think we should downplay how much of the memes sentiment is a disillusionment of video games. There was a time in our lives when they alone were sufficient sources of fun to justify our lives by. Learning them, getting better at them, *discussing and arguing* about them was a sufficient source of purpose. But not anymore, and alot of us desperately still try to cling to a lost adolescence DEFINED by video games....
Came for boomer hate, left thinking about my relationship with my father and all the sacrifices he made to provide me a fairly meager existence. its incredibly challenging to parse how simultaneously grateful and indignant I feel about it all, I expect that with time I will firmly settle in gratitude but goddamn if it isn't hard constantly.
I think something that needs more attention is the 'winning' element. To win implies triumph. While to act out a 'win' need not be through triumphant means, the father is not asking if the son is doing well, but if he is winning. Is it purely the disconnect between father and son here? Or is there also a sub-layer between a son being driven to success via his father, as his father did to him, as did his father, and so forth, which redirects the familial pressure to suceed on the current son. A lot of great associations here! Thank you for another great video.
Very proud of my dad, he grew up as a chad and acchieved pretty much everything a man could hope to. But slow retirement and merciless tax slavery turned him into a doomer just like myself. He very well understands but he's a lot more chill about it because unlike most of us he hasn't that many years left to suffer. He taught me that we can still feel deep sorrow for this lost world but there is no need in trying to save or change it, we should find our own purpose outside of it to obtain peace and fullfillment.
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This channel is doing the exact meme philosophy idea I dreamed of, only executed far better than anything I could hope to produce. I can’t help but want to give up this task to someone who really knows what they’re doing.
5:06 This part sincerely reminds me of that quote that I first came across in the Sanic Hegehog meme: “We must embrace pain and burn it as fuel for our journey.”
For me this meme is one of 'disappointing expectations', for the Father his expectations of his son are disappointed because his son's actions don't align with his own in his youth or those of his likely stricter but more inspirational parents in the golden generation. It may also arise from frustration at being unable to engage with and influence the son and thus blaming the son's attitude and distancing. On the other hand, the son's expectations of his Father are also disappointed since he feels frustration and shame that the Father can't or won't engage with him as he is which is causing self doubt and anxiety on top of what he is already being made to feel by modern society. The Father is just presenting the son with another ideal to live up to which the son will inevitably fail at, even if it is because the son is trying to face his reality. None of this is addressed, as it could be, by time spent together in sincere engagement and activity, it is instead allowed to continue after a brief 4 second exchange from which both parties only retain frustration and irritation.
Totally disagree. I think the father is purposely drawn to look happy and wholesome. He is not judging his son or placing burdens on him, but his son is suffering and he doesn't understand. What you wrote doesn't fit the meme at all, might be a personal experience tho (that alot of people likely share)
Tartersauce101 I think it depends on what kinda of father you have if you have a father like me you somehow always feel guilty for just sitting on the Pc because you know that deep down he wished to have a son who is more like him self wich is impossible because they grew up in such different worlds, I personally see his kind of expression as ironic like he wants to make his son feel some kind of guilt because he didn’t live up to his expectations
I don't usually comment on any videos but this simple fucking meme makes me miss my dad so much. It's so interesting how something that started a as joke can bring so much emotion... great job
My father always said this. Sometimes you find it annoying as a teenager, but as you become a man, you become eternally grateful that you have/had a father who loved you. He didnt get a lot of games I played, but my father always was interested in me and what I liked doing. Good Dads are the unsung heros of this world.
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels. I find your choices of subject matter and your takes most interesting as well as powerful. Several times over now you've made me question or realize things about myself, inspiring me to continue reading phil and psy. My previous cat was named Nietzsche so you know I share your love for the greatest moustache in philosophy. I'm on an ethical quest for virtue - the search for the good life - and you've already been very helpful. I'm thinking about reading some Jung next. Any certain texts of his you would recommend given my "quest"? Anyways thanks and keep up the good work!
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Could the problem arise in the lack of communication between the two? Stripped down to its core, I don't see the sufferings of any two different generations to be much different. Both are faced with archetypal stories of growing up, sacrificing, creating value for yourself and those around you by aligning your hierarchy of values (which again brings forth concepts of sacrifice). The circumstances are those that are different, but the roots are the same - or so I see them that way. Perhaps if the father introduced himself as someone who had the same feelings and be an embodiment of support, the son could at least see the way forward. In this way, the son is wasting away his life thinking no one understands him when in fact it's quite the opposite. The son still has to bring his ashes to the mountain and ignite the flames again (like Zarathustra), the pain need not go away, and I would argue - must not go away; but the father, in a healthy relationship, could be a hand reaching from the other side. What are your thoughts? I really like this channel! In the recent years, I've started to delve deeper into man and I'm very glad I stumbled upon this project of yours. Please carry on with spreading the message from the very depths of existence.
at 5:15 he mentioned something very important. as i am progressing through my teenage years i have found that the things that we have been taught when we were young were mostly true and real things but you were just too young to really understand. i am 16 and i currently believe that a real man is a man that defends and pursues his passions and beliefs no matter how stupid they may be. a man is the foundation of his dreams and goals. if the foundation is weak, nothing is going to be built correct, thus falls apart.
Please tell me you have a job in phycology, because you could go pro sir. In terms of awareness of the human condition, and the pain we all go through, You truly are winning. son
My parents never really stuck their head in like this, but there was a moment with each of them where they actually looked at what I was playing and either asked questions or made commentary. My departed mother's is most memorable, "Are you the knight?" "What do you do in this game? Fight the computer?" My father's was, "I see you're running effortlessly across some impossible desert planet." He never much left me alone during puberty. He always pulled me away by force to change car tires/oil/go camping. I learned a lot from him, but we wound up with a relatively sour relationship overall. Even had a fist fight a few years ago. If I were to draw my father in this meme, he'd be an angry man in the doorway shouting, "Get off that damn video game and come help me cut down this tree, goddamn it!" Because of this, I clung more tightly to my video games than anything else. But the video games I play are, or at least try to be, so much more than mere entertainment or competition. Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Ogre Battle. Stories with complex narratives that are just reflections of philosophy, human nature, and religion in so many ways.
I find this meme quite sweet, maybe because it reminds me of my father. In an era in which fathers and sons are culturally light years distant, the question that the father is asking is the only really possible. Implies that he's fully conscious of the cultural gap and the different sets of values existing in the new generation so he takes a stap back and asks if "despite the fact that I have no idea of what you're doing, are you succeeding in what you're doing?" which is universal. Talking about archetypes it's clearly the Tarot of the Judgment. If you see the disposition in space the father comes from above like the angels playing the trumpets. And asks for a sudden evaluation of the present condition.
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I remember being on my gameboy in the car, and as my dad drives, he'd always ask "are ya winning?", to which I would sadly reply "no.." but he always had an optimistic response, "no worries..you'll get em next time.."
I’m more and more happy as when I was a child. Do things you like, cut unecessary entertainment, master your libido by nofap : embrase the combat. It’s not always graced by succes but just like when we were kids. Dude, I like your channel !
I have struggled to comprehend this topic, many times more than others before. Well, I get the part of the ignorance of the suffering and what not, but at the end it becomes convoluted in my mind what you are trying to say.
-Are ya winning son? -I am not your son, I've never had a father, now I have nothing. And I don't want anything anymore, because only nothing is important to me. It raised me, helped me, it made much more for me than all of you together. Now get out, I know everything you could say, talking to you is meaningless.
The father may not understand, but at least he cares.
@Divinegon Winnicott talks about the "Good Enough Parent" and I find that's spot on. Good enough is perfect in its own way.
Unless if he's forced to care...
@@CidCDdrafts Can anyone really force dad to care? If he is "forced" to care he is allowing himself to be "forced" to care.
Divinegon I’m 19 and I can’t recall my dad ever entering my room to just ask about the games that I play, just do dishes and take trash out.... Caring really is enough.
Exactly ❤️
My father is very accuractely depicted in this meme, throughout my childhood he would always poke his head through the door with a silly but genuine grin on his face and ask something to the affect of "how's it going" or "is it [my computer] working?" (those times that I got a new game, console or part for my PC). Sometimes I felt like he was a bit abrasive and I would actually recoil at his touch, he would rough me up like grabbing my shoulders and shake me in excitement. I often felt like that was unnecessary and disruptive to my gameplay and I sometimes felt like he didn't know what he was asking about so it seems shallow or meaningless to reply with "good, great, thanks" or whatever, connecting with him over it seemed useless and even impossible.
He passed away in november '19 after years of cancer and during those years I got the time to reflect over all of his idiosyncrasies like and today I realize that they are the most treasured memories I have, out of anything I can remember. Those are moments where I could've let him in and included him in my #1 hobby, doing so might have set me on a different path later on... maybe it was never meant to be like, either way - I miss him to death and I really don't have anyone I can talk to about this so, here you go.
If you're a 13, 14, 15 y.o guy who thinks your dad is a bumbling buffoon who doesn't "get it"... Just know that I was like you and one day you will be like I am now, just like how I am like my father when he was 28 and he was like his father, and his father, and his father, and his father...
No matter how much some things change, some things are immutable.
Because of this meme, whenever his memory walztes in through the back door of my present mind, I will know what to say.
Thanks for that comment
that was really sad man.. i really felt that. i feel obliged to reply even though i dont have anything to contribute.. much love man.
Your comment made me realize that perhaps sometimes it is us who dont get the layers underneath our parents daily lifes and actions. And they probably know that our unexperience prevents us to understand the nuances of our social interactions with them as much as their lack of modern knowledge can also create a barrier. This is actually getting me feel really sad.... its like we are bound to never understad each other, forever interacting with them through these superficial interactions for eternity, generation after generation, so on and so on
@@lolaurabc I think you're right that parents and their children can have a very hard time communicating and relating to each other but I think it's really only during your teens and early twenties.
Eventually you "grow up" and come to realize that your parents are people just like yourself and you can start to really relate to them, on a level field. When you're a small child, not yet into your teenage years I think interaction between parents and children in a healthy relationship is the most genuine there is.
Don't be sad, just love your parents back :)
Thank you.
My dad literally asks me everyday when he comes home: 'did you win?'
And I always say yes, when in reality, I only win 50% of the time
I mean 50% win rate is pretty common if you win alot matchmaking puts you up against stronger opponents so you start losing ,then if you lose a lot match making puts you against easier opponents so it always kindof balances to 50%,unless you're smurfing.
Lol same. Sometimes he asks me when I'm playing single player games, and I still say yes
Dad: Git gud kid
@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster Nothing wrong with video games, everything wrong with morons with a stick up their ass.
My Dad's dead
20 years later these videos are going to be in the curriculum
I feel somewhat uneasy about this.
Yes, this is the best and most relevant work on RUclips currently.
more like 200 or 2000
@Qunt Goblin what they teach kids
500TH LIKE!
Damn that Dad who was playing VR Family simulator hit a little different y'know
Because the dad isn't supposed to be portrayed like that.
Which one?
Edit: nvm, yeah it did..
@@Jinars. yeah. If my dad did it I would de fucking repulsed
Someone tell me please, theres a few videos
People act like their dad’s didn’t go through the same thing. Growing into a man with the pressure of the world is nothing new. The reason Dad’s are the way they are is because they DO understand. They try to put your mind at ease with their tone and lame dad jokes. They’re trying to remind you that they still love you, you’re still their son, you’re still their little boy. They know that the world crippled you mentally and they want to ease that pain. Stop acting like your parents don’t understand. They do a whole lot more than you may think. They were young too. They had to grow too. They had to learn too. Young people need to stop thinking their problems are unique to them. Every generation goes through this. And hey, it could be worse. You could’ve been shipped to Normandy at 18. You could’ve been drafted into Vietnam. You live an easier life than they did.
Their battles were physical, our battles are psychological.
@@Dycewyfe so psychological
This is true, my generation is truly ungrateful and thinks their life sucks when in reality they dont see their oppertunities
Don't EVER downplay other's suffering, it's the most ignorant thing you can do and often comes from a place of privilege. I believe in people telling others that their lives are in their own hands and what not, but you cannot be so ignorant as to say other's lives are easier.
@@ketz_165 the second u say "place of privilege" your arguement loses credibility. Otherwise you're correct! Don't use meaningless sjw phrases or intelligent people will tune you out
"The Boomer is someone who has adjusted to reality, not someone who merely had it easier." As I settle into my late 30s with kids of my own these word made clear something I couldnt simplify so well. This explains fathers including my own so well. Keep up the good work!
When memes begin to make you question your existence as a 27 y/o father of a 7 y/o which at the same time has this kind of relationship with his 57 y/o father...
Cats in the Cradle
Are you winning?
You have your own child. You are winning, son.
@@emirojaseng Yes.
I wonder what kind of struggling our sons will experience, and we will not comprehend.
There is an interesting phrase I heard from my grandfather once (It's a translation from Russian). "It's always like this, the old think the young are foolish, the young think the old don't get it. Same for me, both old and young." This conflict is neverending, it's just that memes show it better.
What does that mean exactly? What is your interpretation of the phrase?
@@kevinmclaughlin615 There's always a conflict between the young and the old generation. My grandad had to deal with his parents' constant demonization of anything foreign to a point where they kicked him out at age 16 for finding out that he got his hands on some illegally imported Cola and cutting contacts for years.
My dad had to deal with my grandfather's inherent push towards the military lifestyle, even though it long has become a sign of poverty and a lack of choices in Russia instead of the respectfulness it got in the USSR, so much so that they had gotten into physical confrontations.
I still argue with my Dad about my choice of profession, considering that to him the only good jobs are an engineer or a scientist due to the fact that those jobs allowed you to get into a foreign company in the 90s, escaping poverty and danger.
There was never a generation where there was a mutual understanding between father and son, the differences are too big and the reason that it is being discussed right now is not that the divide is the biggest, but the current young generation has the loudest voice in all of history.
True. Its interesting the attitude of Boomers, since they're the "baby boomers" after a fucking war. There was a huge disparity in values between those two generations, especially here in the UK where the country was in the thick of it during WW2. Yet they learned no lessons from that, and carry on the cycle. Millenials need to be better now that some in this generation already are having/had kids.
This reminds me of the meme with the pre-teen girl listening to Billie Eilish telling the father that he wouldn't understand how deeply depressed she is. It is sheer hubris of the next generation. Totem and Taboo.
YoU DonT UnDeRstAnD mE even though the dad probably has major health issues and is losing his hair. Oh we do understand but you better enjoy your youth now because it's not gonna get magically better sorry
My grandad used to do this and I miss those days. He'd say things like "You gotta kill the zombies in the head with the shotgun" while I was playing fantasy RPGs. Good times.
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When i see a meme i just "get it". Never really thought about it. What exactly do i "get"? This video puts it into words
Dude, try explaining memes to an older relative. The amount of knowledge required to pick up on a meme can't be underestimated. We "get it" because we've spent years on the net picking up that knowledge. I've tried to explain memes but, honestly, I've given up because I'm not eloquent enough to confer years worth of knowledge in a way that quickly and succinctly explains a meme.
Erich Same here when I first got into memes I understood nothing but now I somehow just get it, I somehow Ijust relate to what I see without really seeing it
Erich I feel this frustration. I’m pretty well versed in meme culture and try to share my videos with my mother (a very smart woman), but she just can’t piece it together.
It feels like our generation created a whole new island.
This is proof that the brain is a quantum computer.
It seems that understanding is like a resonance that precedes explanation. You catch the meaning before being explained to.
Fantastic work; this meme usually makes me feel sad but the hopefull direction taken at the end of the video was inspiring. Keep it up!
I miss my dad. If you have a halfway decent dad, be grateful while he’s still here.
Yes!
I have a good stepdad but my birth dad spent all our money on drugs
2:14
Minor correction. His last words were, "It is finished!"
how my english teacher expect me to make a esay:
"an"
@Great Cornholio sorry english is not my first lang
Tata Puiu we know, my friend. we know.
@@sjuvanet not everyone is from America man
so true, although very trippy thoughts about memes
This video caused me to feel emotions I don’t understand
Meditate on these new emotions you must. Do or do not: there is no try.
This meme reminds me of a reality check because of the fact that you will always remember a father close to you, than a satisfying game moment. Heck I don't even have a proper gaming setup but as I'm growing up, I'm not considering buying a gaming setup since that happiness and satisfaction will eventually deteriorate into depression and addiction.
It always goes: Money doesn't make you happy.
I'm sorry if I made anyone sad :(
this litterally happens to me this is uncanny
Same, it's probably the most relatable
This channel gives memes a philosophical meaning, that seemingly have the only purpose of getting an XDDDDD from someone. Never could've done it myself...stringing together the messages from ancient people and texts. Very interesting, and I'm glad to have found this channel.
Mate i am so happy to see someone using "xDDDDD" thanks for that 💚
We all know what the memes are telling us. Only some pf us can put it in to words.
"he's probably thinking about other women..."
me:
To suffer alone is something that will happen many times in your life
To learn from it is the only way to ease the pain
It’s actually pretty haunting to think that God only knew of human suffering through Christ.
He still knew before hand, Christ was as a sacrifice.
People really miss the depth of (fact for some, idea for some) God taking upon Himself human nature and going to the limits of human forsakeness, to suffer with us.
Whaaat? Where did you get the idea that God didn't know of the suffering of the peoples he created in his image?
He knew, he just never experienced it
@@Fruitpunchyearsago sacrificing yourself to yourself for the sins of People You created. Fucking kek
"In this meme I saw the image of Christ" 2:05
Strangely or not, this fits well with my personal experience and the ambivalence I feel towards my own dad. (And that I felt he was ignorant towards my suffering.) Strangely, I rejected what my dad taught me, but interestingly, at the same time, I somewhat achieved what my dad dreamt and hoped of me to achieve in life.
Thus, in a certain way, I can answer the question of "are ya winning son?" with "yes".
gotta say, going through a lot of shit rn and these videos are the most comforting thing ever, for some reason. thank u
My dad unironically does this even on games where there's no 'winning' in most games these days. I always say yeah lol.
Lol same here
Why is it that a lot of games don’t have winning?
Taylor Wilmes depends on what u play. Honestly i’d say the majority of games do have winning bc people like dopamine
@@TaylorWilmes In some cases they have become more "simulations" than actual games. Take Flight simulators, The Sims or even Animal Crossing. But of course It is not so easy to define "game". Is a race a game? Is solving a maze a game? One might say that it is a puzzle, but what if it involved beating a very simple inbuilt AI as in the case of Theseus and the Minotaur? Does beating it count as winning? What would be the difference between this and killing endless monsters in a modern day rogue like? www.logicmazes.com/theseus.html
Explain him that not all games are about competition. Some are just about giving a strong vibe, some are made to relax, some are made to simulate another historical period, some are made to live a unique experience. Maybe by telling him how deep and complex the videogames world is he will understand more about it, and he will stop thinking that they are just a waste of time. I think everyone should do this
'm pretty happy seeing your channel grow this fast :) We need more of this type of content
0:17 if the father's even present. Way too many kids growing up without one around. I was one of them.
EDIT: Which, I get thats not the point of this video. That was the first thing that came to my mind as Im watching through. The dad and son have an unproductive conversation, one where they're talking past each other. It's sad because it's a further expression of the growing disconnect between people - even those related by flesh and blood. But hey, at least the dad is there and is trying to connect, even if it doesn't go anywhere. It's a shaky base to strengthen connections but it can be built and improved upon.
We are the bastard generation :^)
I am sorry to hear that, i would miss a huge part what made me a man, which i absorbed from my dad. We have a very good bond and do many projects together, like repairing our cars or building stuff at his house, looking movies together etc.
I would wish everybody to have a dad like i have!
@@Gaphalor Yup, people need to be upfront and honest, if you have a problem, and want help, then be direct. You can't say no one understands you, if you haven't put in the effort to make those close to you recognize your problems. This goes beyond parental relationships but also having relationships in general. I'm lucky to have a father who I have a very close bond with, who I can have healthy discussions with. Not many people have that luxury, let alone even have a father. Moral is that seeking help directly would be the best thing you can do if you're not understood.
@@sebastianswan7975 yea very true words, you cant expect your parents or people in general to read your mind, you need to tell them whats bothering you!
Jesus Christ, Ya Rabbi. I came here expecting to get a quick lol, but instead, the video opens up a kind of an old wound I've rarely, if ever, addressed at all. This video, rudimentary it may be in its visual presentation, is concised and articulated in terms of content.
Kudos OP. Rarely a video hits hard at home.
I had to explain the word nihilism to my dad as he'd never heard it before
@Spaceman Spiff could be. I would point out I think my parents just scrape into the generation X category
@Spaceman Spiff I think the video wasnt really good because he just did the same he complained about. He didnt really look at reality but instead through his Jungian glasses. He forgets that he can not explain such things without backing it with facts although he criticized doomers for defying reality themselves.
@@yurekwonka4482 I didn't criticize doomers for defying reality, exactly the opposite, they witness misery and cease to move, they must become artists and produce values and beauty to justify life.
@@MemeAnalysis Sorry defying was the wrong word (english is not my first language) i meant that doomers acknowledge reality but refuse to interact with it and thus spiraling down in a psychosis of misery, resentment and lack of motivation. But my first point still stands. You are not providing any hard evidence. Dont understand me wrong i like this other view you are providing to social problems but all you are doing is throwing another hypothesis in the room without going any further. I think that as you said the experience of painful maturity is not new. Every generation has its problems and obstacles but the extent of pain that one must endure is getting bigger and bigger.
The problem is not only the growing corporatism and its socioeconomic implications but also the digitalization. Adapting to reality as some would argue is part of growing up today means adapting to a unnatural way of life. I am not a naturalist pledging for living in the woods but it becomes harder to escape and detach from the digital world. There are numerous studies exploring the effects of early smartphone use for example that show that the brain doesnt evolve as much as a normal kid playing in the wilderness and dirt would.
We are working against human nature and we can feel it but cant or dont want rationalize it. Yeah we can adapt. Thats the whole reason humanity evolved so quickly but at what cost. Progress is not alway progress. So my point is that this time it is different it is harder because adapting nowerdays means to reject human nature.
I believe in the belief of believing nothing..
Nihilism
My dad would ask me this when I was farming raiding mats in WoW circa like 2007. I haven't seen the old man in years, every time I see this meme I think of him.
What happened to him
this made me feel an emotion i cant express in words
My own version of "are you winning son?" is:
Is that your gf son? (every time my dad see an anime girl on my phone or pc)
Incel
Having an anime girl Is not weird, you just apreciate an art style, is like you would put a female character of a videogame as wallpaper, nothing wrong
Bruh
Bruh
@@RAM3NOV3RLORD Almost 30% of men are single get over it
Found your channel yesterday and I watched nearly every video here, love it can't wait to see more
I almost got a bit too emotional by watching this. Thanks for uploading!
Not to disagree with the body of this essay, but I don't think we should downplay how much of the memes sentiment is a disillusionment of video games. There was a time in our lives when they alone were sufficient sources of fun to justify our lives by. Learning them, getting better at them, *discussing and arguing* about them was a sufficient source of purpose. But not anymore, and alot of us desperately still try to cling to a lost adolescence DEFINED by video games....
This, wish he would talked more about this aspect
Came for boomer hate, left thinking about my relationship with my father and all the sacrifices he made to provide me a fairly meager existence.
its incredibly challenging to parse how simultaneously grateful and indignant I feel about it all, I expect that with time I will firmly settle in gratitude but goddamn if it isn't hard constantly.
Finally someone who feels this way, I think there's so much taboo about talking these things.
“Yes I am winning dad” **goes back to gaming**
We upset because dad doesn't understand us but we get annoyed when he try to communicate .
this hits way too close at home
I think something that needs more attention is the 'winning' element. To win implies triumph. While to act out a 'win' need not be through triumphant means, the father is not asking if the son is doing well, but if he is winning. Is it purely the disconnect between father and son here? Or is there also a sub-layer between a son being driven to success via his father, as his father did to him, as did his father, and so forth, which redirects the familial pressure to suceed on the current son. A lot of great associations here! Thank you for another great video.
Very proud of my dad, he grew up as a chad and acchieved pretty much everything a man could hope to. But slow retirement and merciless tax slavery turned him into a doomer just like myself.
He very well understands but he's a lot more chill about it because unlike most of us he hasn't that many years left to suffer.
He taught me that we can still feel deep sorrow for this lost world but there is no need in trying to save or change it, we should find our own purpose outside of it to obtain peace and fullfillment.
Hi, I'm a new subscriber of you. At a first glance, I thought you were just another one of those meme review channels, but once I watched one of your videos, I knew you're something else to behold. Upon reviewing your videos, I have come to be fascinated by how you invite fellow meme lovers for more in-depth discussions, reevaluating modern life and holding back our roots firmly.
Keep the quality content up and better, and all the best for you!
This channel is doing the exact meme philosophy idea I dreamed of, only executed far better than anything I could hope to produce. I can’t help but want to give up this task to someone who really knows what they’re doing.
5:06 This part sincerely reminds me of that quote that I first came across in the Sanic Hegehog meme: “We must embrace pain and burn it as fuel for our journey.”
For me this meme is one of 'disappointing expectations', for the Father his expectations of his son are disappointed because his son's actions don't align with his own in his youth or those of his likely stricter but more inspirational parents in the golden generation. It may also arise from frustration at being unable to engage with and influence the son and thus blaming the son's attitude and distancing. On the other hand, the son's expectations of his Father are also disappointed since he feels frustration and shame that the Father can't or won't engage with him as he is which is causing self doubt and anxiety on top of what he is already being made to feel by modern society. The Father is just presenting the son with another ideal to live up to which the son will inevitably fail at, even if it is because the son is trying to face his reality. None of this is addressed, as it could be, by time spent together in sincere engagement and activity, it is instead allowed to continue after a brief 4 second exchange from which both parties only retain frustration and irritation.
Totally disagree. I think the father is purposely drawn to look happy and wholesome. He is not judging his son or placing burdens on him, but his son is suffering and he doesn't understand. What you wrote doesn't fit the meme at all, might be a personal experience tho (that alot of people likely share)
@@Tartersauce101 i totally disagree with you.
Tartersauce101 I think it depends on what kinda of father you have if you have a father like me you somehow always feel guilty for just sitting on the Pc because you know that deep down he wished to have a son who is more like him self wich is impossible because they grew up in such different worlds, I personally see his kind of expression as ironic like he wants to make his son feel some kind of guilt because he didn’t live up to his expectations
@@Tartersauce101 People can overcome their own fathers. How? Do not do as they did, and do as they did not.
Interesting alternative view.
I don't usually comment on any videos but this simple fucking meme makes me miss my dad so much. It's so interesting how something that started a as joke can bring so much emotion... great job
this reminds me of when you're playing a game like minecraft and dad asks what level are you on?
My father always said this. Sometimes you find it annoying as a teenager, but as you become a man, you become eternally grateful that you have/had a father who loved you. He didnt get a lot of games I played, but my father always was interested in me and what I liked doing. Good Dads are the unsung heros of this world.
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels. I find your choices of subject matter and your takes most interesting as well as powerful. Several times over now you've made me question or realize things about myself, inspiring me to continue reading phil and psy. My previous cat was named Nietzsche so you know I share your love for the greatest moustache in philosophy. I'm on an ethical quest for virtue - the search for the good life - and you've already been very helpful. I'm thinking about reading some Jung next. Any certain texts of his you would recommend given my "quest"? Anyways thanks and keep up the good work!
What makes this channel so great, is that it's content provides satisfaction to a two-pronged need or desire, which is at last starting to grow amongst the common populace: the need for engaging & relevant entertainment on the one side; and on the other, we, or some of us @least, desire & require that the available content offered, while still remaining pleasant to follow, is not too low-brow, frivolous, cookie-cutter, click-bait-y or trite - if we want shallow crap like that then we well-know where to find it in all it's toxic-abundance, it's petty-greed & ignorance-fuelled commercial-rhetoric & corporate-slime seeping from almost every pore of The Internet's metaphorical-skin. Where as a place like this channel is a bit of a rarer gem; here, we appreciate that the host can think & talk properly. For me at least, this channel is about consistent relatable & thought-provoking ideas & presentation - often veering into the realms of philosophy & psychology, which suits me just fine - I find these interesting productions both mentally-stimulating while simultaneously psychologically relaxing & calming - an almost paradoxical or seemingly counter-intuitive set of qualities to balance, project & instil; however, this brain-state (calm-alertness) is best for making learning fun & pleasant, it is ideal for absorbing knowledge and thus the hallmarks of what a seasoned & high-quality university-lecturer/professor should be able to conjure in their students - much like Jordan Peterson. That's why I subbed, rang the bell, and will keep coming back. Drat!, now I have the 'You Can Ring My Bell' song stuck in my head, it always happens when I Sub & hit bell. I'll be back!
I'm winning, bro
Could the problem arise in the lack of communication between the two? Stripped down to its core, I don't see the sufferings of any two different generations to be much different. Both are faced with archetypal stories of growing up, sacrificing, creating value for yourself and those around you by aligning your hierarchy of values (which again brings forth concepts of sacrifice). The circumstances are those that are different, but the roots are the same - or so I see them that way.
Perhaps if the father introduced himself as someone who had the same feelings and be an embodiment of support, the son could at least see the way forward. In this way, the son is wasting away his life thinking no one understands him when in fact it's quite the opposite. The son still has to bring his ashes to the mountain and ignite the flames again (like Zarathustra), the pain need not go away, and I would argue - must not go away; but the father, in a healthy relationship, could be a hand reaching from the other side.
What are your thoughts?
I really like this channel! In the recent years, I've started to delve deeper into man and I'm very glad I stumbled upon this project of yours. Please carry on with spreading the message from the very depths of existence.
at 5:15 he mentioned something very important. as i am progressing through my teenage years i have found that the things that we have been taught when we were young were mostly true and real things but you were just too young to really understand. i am 16 and i currently believe that a real man is a man that defends and pursues his passions and beliefs no matter how stupid they may be. a man is the foundation of his dreams and goals. if the foundation is weak, nothing is going to be built correct, thus falls apart.
lol come back in ten years
this analysis genuinely made me cry
i like how this channel explaining me a meme made me go to an existential crisis for 3 hours lmao
I gotta be honest your writing / delivery for the first 1:50 of this video transcends, amazing man.
Please tell me you have a job in phycology, because you could go pro sir. In terms of awareness of the human condition, and the pain we all go through, You truly are winning. son
Ah yes, memes: the 8th art
Uh what are the other 7
@@xredacex Porn and bboob
I am watching this on my phone, my dad is sitting next to me and asked me "Are you talking to someone?"
My parents never really stuck their head in like this, but there was a moment with each of them where they actually looked at what I was playing and either asked questions or made commentary.
My departed mother's is most memorable, "Are you the knight?" "What do you do in this game? Fight the computer?"
My father's was, "I see you're running effortlessly across some impossible desert planet."
He never much left me alone during puberty. He always pulled me away by force to change car tires/oil/go camping. I learned a lot from him, but we wound up with a relatively sour relationship overall. Even had a fist fight a few years ago.
If I were to draw my father in this meme, he'd be an angry man in the doorway shouting, "Get off that damn video game and come help me cut down this tree, goddamn it!"
Because of this, I clung more tightly to my video games than anything else. But the video games I play are, or at least try to be, so much more than mere entertainment or competition. Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Ogre Battle. Stories with complex narratives that are just reflections of philosophy, human nature, and religion in so many ways.
I find this meme quite sweet, maybe because it reminds me of my father. In an era in which fathers and sons are culturally light years distant, the question that the father is asking is the only really possible. Implies that he's fully conscious of the cultural gap and the different sets of values existing in the new generation so he takes a stap back and asks if "despite the fact that I have no idea of what you're doing, are you succeeding in what you're doing?" which is universal. Talking about archetypes it's clearly the Tarot of the Judgment. If you see the disposition in space the father comes from above like the angels playing the trumpets. And asks for a sudden evaluation of the present condition.
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M8, am I dumb, or u ve just gained 15k subscribers in a month?
Hi, i just need to say that your videos are not only interesting and reflective, but, for the way you talk and articulate, they're so poetic; you convey emotion with your ideas. I don't know how to express it all, i just want to say your videos are art and i enjoy them very much
@@LessbetterJoe Yes! A ton of growth lately, it's crazy.
@@soyboy1803 Thank you, I try to express something great with them.
Subbed to this channel. Your videos are a unique analysis of memes. Get some fluoride shield before the lizard army corrupts your soul.
my dad doesn't even knock on my door
I remember being on my gameboy in the car, and as my dad drives, he'd always ask "are ya winning?", to which I would sadly reply "no.." but he always had an optimistic response, "no worries..you'll get em next time.."
This was an amazing video! Great job
the longest 6 minutes of my life
Would you consider a Bogandoff meme analysis? They have Illuminati tier powers with supernatural elements. Might make an interesting rabbit hole
Are you asking for a quick rundown?
Happy to see that you’ve gained a lot of subscribers recently.
Watching these videos has tought me that memes are basically the new religion
This is galaxy brain stuff right here
This made me feel good. Thank you sir.
I could hear this dude speaking about the psychological and philosophical aspects of memes for hours.
Jesse, wtf are you talking about!
Finding this chanel is a grace for me,thank you for the amazing content
Top tier shitpost my guy love it. Greetings from Berlin!
I’m more and more happy as when I was a child. Do things you like, cut unecessary entertainment, master your libido by nofap : embrase the combat. It’s not always graced by succes but just like when we were kids. Dude, I like your channel !
can someone give me the meme from 0:14. I am genuinely interested in reading it
Please, same
Memes do not typically reach that level of profundity
Now, that pulled a string.
What about: are you coding son?
The awnser is no, he isn't
@@tim7954 as a reward, mom made spaghetti coding with meatballs
programming socks
This channel is next level of Behind The Memes but less normies and never mentioned Crash's Woah.
"Life had me in the first half, not gonna lie.."
Your memes matter to us ☺💟
Jesus on cross "Are ya winning son?" meme has quite a poignant feel to it.
Hell yeah, I've been waiting for this one!
Very good analysis 👍
I TOLD YOU MAN, I TOLD YOU ABOUT STAIRS
I have struggled to comprehend this topic, many times more than others before. Well, I get the part of the ignorance of the suffering and what not, but at the end it becomes convoluted in my mind what you are trying to say.
This is a excellent satire, and an entertaining piece. thank you
not what i expected but so very beautiful. thank you.
Didn't think it would go that far into detail
Subbed. I learn more from this guy and memes than uni.
-Are ya winning son?
-I am not your son, I've never had a father, now I have nothing. And I don't want anything anymore, because only nothing is important to me. It raised me, helped me, it made much more for me than all of you together. Now get out, I know everything you could say, talking to you is meaningless.
Love you shit, real enlightening .
Such a great video, thank you :)
Can anyone get me the full picture at 0:12? it looks interesting and I cant manage to read the end
Does anyone know what the picture at 5:44 is called?
I can feel my IQ increasing...
Can someone tell me where this image is from 5:50 cant remember name, ty.
Plato's Allegory of the Cave
looks like a depiction of the allegory of the cave from plato
Yes! ty guys