+George Jordan Yeah, this is amazing sponsored content, I honestly hope there's more, so that I'll know that Tom will be able to buy all the Mystery Biscuits they'll ever need.
To anyone disappointed that Tom didn't take a ride, look through his older videos for one called "Gravity Doesn't Always Point Straight To The Earth's Core" and you may see one reason that he wouldn't want to.
I'm all for sponsored content if it means better production quality, and you not compromising on content. This is good stuff, you should try the ice luge!
I have to say, when I first saw your videos talking about the sponsored-type videos, I was all for it; as a content creator, you don't strike me as the type to just sell out for a bit of money and create pointless videos. For one thing, the lengthy discussion on Park Bench about it was a pretty big clue. Now, having seen these videos... I think I was right, and so were you; this is exactly the kind of video that I've come to love you for making, as much or perhaps even slightly more so than TechDif (although that'd be a tough call to make) Keep on doing what you're doing, and you'll continue to be one of my all time favourite youtube creators!
From a viewer's perspective, these hardly even seem like ads to me. Not at all the full sell-out that a lot of people fear. It's the same interesting stuff in all your videos, and if you get payed for it, even better! The videos on the Olympics channel are a little different, but still really cool. (also, needs more cowbell)
The one thing I was wondering half way through, and you almost got to it when you said it's all about moving heat, where do they move the heat to? Was there a massive condenser on the other side of the hill? Or geothermal piping over a larger area than the coolant pipes would occupy? I was curious about that.
Interesting. I always try to visit the Olympic spots when I'm in an Olympic city. I've seen Olympic sites in Barcelona, Mexico City, Seoul, Lillehammer, Amsterdam, Munich, Lake Placid, a few others.
After writing and checking Subtitles for two of Tom's relativly short videos, YT asked me to write subtitles for one of John Green's CrashCourses.... Oh boy, I spent 1h on that and got only half-way done ^^ He is talking sooo fast :D
if the cleaning crew slips while working aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-- weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Gotta wonder what the carbon footprint of that facility is, between the ammonia manufacture and the electricity used to keep the track frozen. I bet it's the same as a small village.
Great video Tom, but it brought a few questions to mind.... In your first couple of video you pronounced it Lil-eh-hammer... in this one you called it Lil-hammer... what's the correct pronunciation? (Help, Norwegian peoples?) What DO they do with the heat generated by pumping, condensing, and evaporating 90 tonnes of ammonia? How thick do they keep the ice frozen to during normal operating conditions? (and perhaps, how exacting do they have to be for parity?)
I feel like the topic of where all that heat goes was kind of glossed over, I would've loved to see that area of the facility! Or is it not as interesting as one would imagine?
I'm surprised that they can run Luge on it before skeleton - it's not a surprise that you need more ice for Bobsled as they're nearly small cars but skeleton bobs, I would have guessed, would be lighter and have less impact on the track than Luges.
Where do they put all the 'waste' heat from this thing? Hopefully it is used to heat some buildings somewhere and not actually wasted. Wish you'd covered that too.
The heat gets pumped off the track with ammonia and the heat pumping process itself generates heat.. I'm curious to know where all that heat goes. I'm guessing it's put to good use, right?
I always appreciate the creativity you guys put into making neat opening shots. How many takes did you have to do to get the bobsledder at the right moment?
Is the heat produced used for anything? It would be a huge waste not to use it, and the Scandinavians tend to engineer things with energy recycling in mind.
These really don't feel like ads. They feel like normal content, content your getting more money for. I'm all for this.
+George Jordan You're
Are they ads? I didn't. Even know..
James Lakin My mistake.
Jacob Thomas Yup, Tom talked about it on the Park Bench, and it says #ad on his tweets and has AD in the thumbnail.
+George Jordan Yeah, this is amazing sponsored content, I honestly hope there's more, so that I'll know that Tom will be able to buy all the Mystery Biscuits they'll ever need.
This should be the third largest freezer in Norway
3- the Lillehammer Bobsleigh Track
2- The dooms day vault
1- Norway itself
+saeid saeid I was thinking the exact same thing.
+saeid saeid it isnt really that cold tbh... it's been v hot the last week. like 0-5 celcius
Haha!
0-5°C is more like a refrigerator.
Nor way!
To anyone disappointed that Tom didn't take a ride, look through his older videos for one called "Gravity Doesn't Always Point Straight To The Earth's Core" and you may see one reason that he wouldn't want to.
and if you check his newer videos over on Tom Scott Plus, you'll see that he did it after all 😊
Wait, you didn't show us where the heat exits from and how it is dealt with.
Where do you think the sun comes from?
@@Rosem_Blossom sun sun sun, here it comes
It feels like that thread just drops off, as if it was cut.
Wait a second so where DOES the heat exit from?
@@vevan99 I believe it would naturally dissipate when the ammonia evaporates
I'm all for sponsored content if it means better production quality, and you not compromising on content. This is good stuff, you should try the ice luge!
I have to say, when I first saw your videos talking about the sponsored-type videos, I was all for it; as a content creator, you don't strike me as the type to just sell out for a bit of money and create pointless videos. For one thing, the lengthy discussion on Park Bench about it was a pretty big clue.
Now, having seen these videos... I think I was right, and so were you; this is exactly the kind of video that I've come to love you for making, as much or perhaps even slightly more so than TechDif (although that'd be a tough call to make)
Keep on doing what you're doing, and you'll continue to be one of my all time favourite youtube creators!
From a viewer's perspective, these hardly even seem like ads to me. Not at all the full sell-out that a lot of people fear.
It's the same interesting stuff in all your videos, and if you get payed for it, even better!
The videos on the Olympics channel are a little different, but still really cool.
(also, needs more cowbell)
I'm just a little disappointed that the joke wasn't made that the biggest freezer in Norway is "the outside". =D
because that's only true 4-5 months of the year
feel so gutted for you Tom, having to go away on trips like this :) always enjoy your vids more power to your elbow :)
The recent videos you've been doing are remarkably professional-looking, keep up the great work!
That cold open with the bobsled was awesome. Perfectly timed!
The one thing I was wondering half way through, and you almost got to it when you said it's all about moving heat, where do they move the heat to? Was there a massive condenser on the other side of the hill? Or geothermal piping over a larger area than the coolant pipes would occupy? I was curious about that.
You should do summer olympics in Rio as well! I watched all of these and they're awesome!
0:05 so satisfying
You are amazing and what you talk about is amazing. It pleases me to know that you are doing such awesome things
I wonder why this video showed up in my recommendations right now?
I feel like part of a club because i actually read the description....
+TehTenMinuteMan Congratulations for reading 10 lines of text.
How many tries did it take to get the timing at the beginning of the video right?
that cue on 0:05 was so on point.
So what do they do with the excess heat? Can it be used to warm a building or something or is it just lost on the spot?
+Jan Šinkovec Sauna down the bottom of the run would be a great idea....
+Jan Šinkovec Yeah, he raised this huge interesting question.... and then didn't answer it. :P
+Jan Šinkovec I was hoping for that answer too :D :(
+Jan Šinkovec Apparently it goes to local district heating. About 4.5 gigawatt hours per year of it.
+Tobias Arntsson I thought that they have some giant fans and radiators but that is also a good explanation.
Interesting. I always try to visit the Olympic spots when I'm in an Olympic city. I've seen Olympic sites in Barcelona, Mexico City, Seoul, Lillehammer, Amsterdam, Munich, Lake Placid, a few others.
Where does the heat go, though? Do they use it to heat buildings, for example?
(Also, as a Norwegian, it's fun to see you over here. :) )
hi the description sent me here love the vids as some said they don't feel like ads
I would love to see the 'heatsink' on the hot side and how massive it needs to be.
That looks both incredibly fun, and incredibly terrifying.
I've been there! I work at the family amusement park across the street from where this is! Amazing!
After writing and checking Subtitles for two of Tom's relativly short videos, YT asked me to write subtitles for one of John Green's CrashCourses.... Oh boy, I spent 1h on that and got only half-way done ^^ He is talking sooo fast :D
Hey Tom, do you have any idea of what the energy consumption of this freezer might be?
this is fuckin crazy. the "fridge" and the bobsleigh sport. holy shit
if the cleaning crew slips while working
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-- weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I love your pronunciation of "Lillehammer". Most foreigners would say "Lily hammer".
You don't mention what they're using as a heat sink. So, what are they using as a heat sink?
wait, so where / how does the heat get vented? Did I miss that bit?
I work for a refrigeration company so I kinda half understood some of that, although we don't use ammonia for any of our plants.
Years later only just realizing that this is an ad.
That is truly amazing.
Giovanni Henriksen sends his regards
This is how to do sponsored content the right way. Good job.
See the Bobsleigh track in action and learn about the science of Monobob here: ruclips.net/video/cE3f0350BcE/видео.html
+Olympics I never thought I'd say this exact phrase, but thanks for the link Olympics!
Wow, can't believe i'd see Olympic comment on one of the less popular videos of Tom Scott!
No
Where is the heat dumped? Preferably it goes into some form of District heating or something?
There used to be an ammonia cooled hockey rink in a facility just outside my home town.
I could probably handle the bobsled but going down it head first on a tea tray is mental.
Gotta wonder what the carbon footprint of that facility is, between the ammonia manufacture and the electricity used to keep the track frozen. I bet it's the same as a small village.
Great video Tom, but it brought a few questions to mind....
In your first couple of video you pronounced it Lil-eh-hammer... in this one you called it Lil-hammer... what's the correct pronunciation? (Help, Norwegian peoples?)
What DO they do with the heat generated by pumping, condensing, and evaporating 90 tonnes of ammonia?
How thick do they keep the ice frozen to during normal operating conditions? (and perhaps, how exacting do they have to be for parity?)
+Marc Hutley
"Lil-eh-hammer" sounds about right, if you pronounce the 'a' in 'Lillehammer' as you'd do the 'a' in 'half' and not 'hammer'.
Lille - hammer
In the description, you say "videos for Friday," but there is only one link. Can you change that before you make the video public?
+Arthur Hu Good eye, that'll teach me to copy and paste. Fixed, thanks!
that was some good timing
how do you even time that opening statement?!
I feel like the topic of where all that heat goes was kind of glossed over, I would've loved to see that area of the facility! Or is it not as interesting as one would imagine?
That old 2nd law of thermodynamics. The ultimate debt collector. Keeps getting in the way of miracles.
Thanks!
TOM!!! FOR SHAME!!! NO BELL! you cant be next to a bobsleigh track while sleighs are running without ringing a bell and cheering.
i've been there!! it's fast and kinda rough going down... really shakes you up. don't recommend wearing any sort of glasses or earrings if you do it
Cool video, 'ice one.
Out of curiosity do they move the heat anywhere for it to be used? It would seem more efficient to do so but also harder to harness excess energy.
2:20 Isn't bobsleigh and luge runs actually measured in thousandths of a second?
Posted on the same day as 99% Invisible's Ice King episode? Interesting.
Is there anywhere people can use these for fun like an amusement park, or is this only for competitive sports?
2:40 Why does the clock say "2.60.98"? Shouldn't that be "3.00.98"?
how tf did they time the bobsled shooting down right on cue in the intro?
I'm surprised that they can run Luge on it before skeleton - it's not a surprise that you need more ice for Bobsled as they're nearly small cars but skeleton bobs, I would have guessed, would be lighter and have less impact on the track than Luges.
He looks and sounds like Dwight's illegitimate Norwegian brother
nice work Tom! do you know how they keep the track from ruts? a little zamboni *? add water? nothing?
I can understand how it's the 2nd biggest freezer. Norway ITSELF is the 1st biggest freezer.
are you coming to Sweden sometime soon?
Where do they put all the 'waste' heat from this thing? Hopefully it is used to heat some buildings somewhere and not actually wasted. Wish you'd covered that too.
+Jay Abbott Heh, just saw this video then replied to say pretty much the exact same thing.
...hopefully coming up in a future video.
Some things were missing, like how much energy does it use and what do they do with the excess heat?
The heat gets pumped off the track with ammonia and the heat pumping process itself generates heat.. I'm curious to know where all that heat goes. I'm guessing it's put to good use, right?
so, what do they do with the heat that is pulled off the track?
It sounded like you were going to talk about where the heat was going but then didn't.
That’s the second biggest freezer I’ve ever seen!
This is something rare for me, I'm early for something.
So +Tom Scott where do they pump all that heat?
All that talk of heat and I thought we were going to see the heat exchanger making a hot spring at the top of the mountain.
This sure is a big freezer, but in comparison to the Seed Vault, it's only Lille... hammer.
I feel like I'm here a bit early...
I would've loved to see the thermal exhaust..
so where is all this heat released?
EoRdE6 Sweden.
So how long did it take to get that timing in the beginning just right?
Do they use the extracted/excess heat for something? Like, they could heat the buildings surrounding the track with it or so?
+Seegal Galguntijak Goes into the district heating system, so yes, does heat buildings, water etc.
Holy shiiiiiiit, that's fast!
How much electricity does this consume per day?
so where does the heat goes?
Dat timing 0:03
how many takes was it to get that introduction :p
Why is this video unlisted???
I always appreciate the creativity you guys put into making neat opening shots. How many takes did you have to do to get the bobsledder at the right moment?
What do they do with all that heat?
How is this an ad?
That opening was very James Burke. :)
How many takes for the first shot? :-)
what do they do with the excess heat?
Is the heat produced used for anything? It would be a huge waste not to use it, and the Scandinavians tend to engineer things with energy recycling in mind.
Can we use all that heat from the cooling unit to generate electricity?
It'd be cool of the heat was being utilized and not wasted. Perhaps heating the nearby buildings?
So do they make good use of all the heat?
Can the heat that's exchanged in the refrigeration process be used for anything?
+tangerinealarm District heating
Top Gear 🚗❄
RIP Top Gear
Is the waste heat used for something useful?
What word is he saying at 1:17? Sounds interesting!
+apim11 Did you mean "fluidium" ?
This just reminds me of Top Gear.