In ours we use katate-dori the same way and the other hand would be katate kosa-dori :) Keep up the good work and I congratulate you for your constant deep answers when someone asks an important question!
Have you ever practiced sabre fencing, tankendo, escrima, arnis, kali, or silat? The upward shomen uchi in Shodokan Aikido (Tomiki Ryu) is known as shomen ate and represents a tsuki (thrust) to underneath chin. The downward shomen uchi can be done also as either a vertical backfist, hammerfist, or finger rack to the eyes (metsubushi).
AikidoSiauliai been watching your videos for a while now, while I decided if I'm going to go back and restart Aikido training after a six break. Before my break from it, I did wonder how effective would this actually be on the street, If the situation was that bad and the only way out was to defend myself. how effective is it really..... Lost faith in the style, whats your view as using Aikido in that type of situation as a last resort. Although I was a lonely "yellow belt" at the time to me it felt it was missing something but being the only martial art that I did try it was, well is difficult to place a true view. Thank your for posting your clearly outstanding videos, enjoying watching them all and look forward to the next one.
Hello Claude, I understand how you feel. I believe that pretty much everyone doing Aikido faces this question sooner or later and it's a difficult one to answer, also depending on what Dojo you train and who is supervising your development. There is definitely an approach in Aikido possible that it can be used as a means of last resort, and it can be very powerful. It wouldn't make you the "ultimate warrior" or MMA proof, but it would definitely work. Yet this approach is not always taught. Unfortunately, doing many other martial arts can only lead to more fear of the unknown in a 'bad' situation, since you might feel like you are always preparing for that one time when you can get attacked. Also, funny enough, most of the times this one time never comes and on the other hand, if you have the right mindset, you can actually find a solution which requires no martial arts. It's a tough subject all together, but the goal is, in my opinion, to become free of the fear of unknown, to feel that you don't need to prepare for that one time, yet you would be ready for it, yet not as ultimate fighter, since that path has no end and sometimes can lead even to more fear. I did speak quite a bit about this topic in another video on my second channel, I do feel you would probably find it interesting, it's here: ruclips.net/video/yVDcUdQBQHo/видео.html . In the end, I think it's important that you listen into yourself and ask yourself are you stopping Aikido because you genuinely feel that your meant to practice something else, or is it just because of fear that it might not work. Also, maybe you simply need a different approach to Aikido? It really depends and I feel that you should be the one to know best.
I used aikido in the street 3 times but 1 was important. I tried do defent a stanger from 1 man who wanted to beat him. Im 17 years old and the bully was maybe 20-22 i dont know. He tried to push me and i got him in Yubidori lock. I hold him 3/4 seconds and he didnt know what to do and the his girlfriend come and tell him to go away. Olso i fight many times because my friends are fighters. Some are boxers, karetekas, Kick boxers and we like to spar. Aikido works but not the traditional aikido. To make aikido work you have to think what and how to do it in the situation. The fancy moves and techniques cant work in a real fight.
Sandooo that's a good insight, thank you. The club I was at was teaching Tradition Aikido, so me it sounds like the forms could work but I would need to "find my own way" to apply using what every Atemi and then make the technique work (sankyo) for example. Interesting........ Thanks.
AIkidoSiauliai, wow that was an good read, and thank you for giving your point of view. Found a good read and the included video was worth watching again. Many thanks.
It's an interesting question. I've never studied Aikido - the reason I'm watching these videos is that I'm considering taking it up. I did study a different martial art until about 10 years ago which shares some similarities, going by what I've seen of Aikido so far. At the level I attained, the attacks we practiced against were always pretty unrealistic compared to what you would expect in a street fight. But the point of the training wasn't to learn how to defend against specific types of attack - it was to learn (1) principles of techniques, and (2 - more importantly) how to flow and adapt. They say "no plan survives first contact with the enemy", and that's an important thing to remember. If you get into a fight situation and think "if he does X then I'm going to do Y" then you will fail. You have to learn to constantly adapt, so if you try a lock or a throw and it doesn't work, you seamlessly transition into something else and maintain control of the situation. You also have to learn that no matter how good you are, you are going to get hit. You have to learn to accept that fact so that when it happens, it doesn't surprise you.
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In ours we use katate-dori the same way and the other hand would be katate kosa-dori :)
Keep up the good work and I congratulate you for your constant deep answers when someone asks an important question!
Thank you!
Have you ever practiced sabre fencing, tankendo, escrima, arnis, kali, or silat? The upward shomen uchi in Shodokan Aikido (Tomiki Ryu) is known as shomen ate and represents a tsuki (thrust) to underneath chin. The downward shomen uchi can be done also as either a vertical backfist, hammerfist, or finger rack to the eyes (metsubushi).
AikidoSiauliai been watching your videos for a while now, while I decided if I'm going to go back and restart Aikido training after a six break. Before my break from it, I did wonder how effective would this actually be on the street, If the situation was that bad and the only way out was to defend myself. how effective is it really.....
Lost faith in the style, whats your view as using Aikido in that type of situation as a last resort. Although I was a lonely "yellow belt" at the time to me it felt it was missing something but being the only martial art that I did try it was, well is difficult to place a true view.
Thank your for posting your clearly outstanding videos, enjoying watching them all and look forward to the next one.
Hello Claude,
I understand how you feel. I believe that pretty much everyone doing Aikido faces this question sooner or later and it's a difficult one to answer, also depending on what Dojo you train and who is supervising your development.
There is definitely an approach in Aikido possible that it can be used as a means of last resort, and it can be very powerful. It wouldn't make you the "ultimate warrior" or MMA proof, but it would definitely work. Yet this approach is not always taught. Unfortunately, doing many other martial arts can only lead to more fear of the unknown in a 'bad' situation, since you might feel like you are always preparing for that one time when you can get attacked. Also, funny enough, most of the times this one time never comes and on the other hand, if you have the right mindset, you can actually find a solution which requires no martial arts. It's a tough subject all together, but the goal is, in my opinion, to become free of the fear of unknown, to feel that you don't need to prepare for that one time, yet you would be ready for it, yet not as ultimate fighter, since that path has no end and sometimes can lead even to more fear. I did speak quite a bit about this topic in another video on my second channel, I do feel you would probably find it interesting, it's here: ruclips.net/video/yVDcUdQBQHo/видео.html .
In the end, I think it's important that you listen into yourself and ask yourself are you stopping Aikido because you genuinely feel that your meant to practice something else, or is it just because of fear that it might not work. Also, maybe you simply need a different approach to Aikido? It really depends and I feel that you should be the one to know best.
I used aikido in the street 3 times but 1 was important. I tried do defent a stanger from 1 man who wanted to beat him. Im 17 years old and the bully was maybe 20-22 i dont know. He tried to push me and i got him in Yubidori lock. I hold him 3/4 seconds and he didnt know what to do and the his girlfriend come and tell him to go away. Olso i fight many times because my friends are fighters. Some are boxers, karetekas, Kick boxers and we like to spar. Aikido works but not the traditional aikido. To make aikido work you have to think what and how to do it in the situation. The fancy moves and techniques cant work in a real fight.
Sandooo that's a good insight, thank you. The club I was at was teaching Tradition Aikido, so me it sounds like the forms could work but I would need to "find my own way" to apply using what every Atemi and then make the technique work (sankyo) for example. Interesting........ Thanks.
AIkidoSiauliai, wow that was an good read, and thank you for giving your point of view. Found a good read and the included video was worth watching again. Many thanks.
It's an interesting question. I've never studied Aikido - the reason I'm watching these videos is that I'm considering taking it up. I did study a different martial art until about 10 years ago which shares some similarities, going by what I've seen of Aikido so far. At the level I attained, the attacks we practiced against were always pretty unrealistic compared to what you would expect in a street fight. But the point of the training wasn't to learn how to defend against specific types of attack - it was to learn (1) principles of techniques, and (2 - more importantly) how to flow and adapt. They say "no plan survives first contact with the enemy", and that's an important thing to remember. If you get into a fight situation and think "if he does X then I'm going to do Y" then you will fail. You have to learn to constantly adapt, so if you try a lock or a throw and it doesn't work, you seamlessly transition into something else and maintain control of the situation.
You also have to learn that no matter how good you are, you are going to get hit. You have to learn to accept that fact so that when it happens, it doesn't surprise you.
Can you make a video on the difference between Aikido and Aikijutsu?
In my club ai hanmi is whe he grab my righ hand with his right hand. Guaku hanmi is when hi grabs mi right hand with his left.
True, that's often times the case. The first Dojo where I practiced had the same, so it took me a while to switch