Yeah you tell’m Kev! …. Im not even an XPRO lover particularly but you got my juices flowing 🤣. Great content to the video 👍. All hail that 16mp sensor… still cherish my original x70 - please Fuji … listen to this man, he is still a great ambassador for your products, he should be moved upstairs as an advisor/director - it works in football 😉
X-pro2 user here. I agree, an Xpro4 is an important component of a Fuji lineup moving forward. It's not their biggest selling line, but imo it - and the X100 - is their defining product as a manufacturer. It tells the world how Fuji sees itself. And they are just plain great to use.
I own 5 Fuji cameras but my Xpro1 is hamds down the one that brings me pleasure as soon as I pick it up. It's like meeting an old friend who understands me
All Fuji has to do is put the new battery, new 40mp sensor, IBIS, and a slightly higher res set of screens in the X-pro 4 and it will sell like hotcakes- esp. given all the X100VI hype. Such a horrible business decision to not have done this yet!
No you have to look at it from a economy and philosophy standpoint ; the Pro series was never the best selling lineup from Fuji even it has a cult following (myself included) and just cramming in all the features from the X-T line will turn the X-Pro into something it never was - like all the other generic cameras.
Couldn't agree more. I'm new to the X-Pro3 and absolutely loving it. The only reason I went with a pre owned X-Pro3 was because I couldn't wait for the X-Pro4.... Please Fuji, please make an X-Pro4....📷🥰👍
Heartily agree with you Kev. I’m a long time X-Pro 2 user and I love the tactile experience that using it brings to my photography. I like the X-E range too but there’s something special about the X-Pro cameras. I really hope Fujifilm don’t give up on them.
Couldn't agree more. I love my Xpro2. I love how it feels in my hands. It makes me want to use it! Please, Fujifilm, please continue this range. Thank you, Kevin, for speaking out.
I agree Kevin. Hope they do end up making one. I think they could market it as when you're ready to "graduate" from the X100. I feel like the x100 has sold so well, I see those people as potential buyers of an Xpro4.
Here here Kevin. Thank you for this considered and forthright appeal. What are they thinking? I still use and love my X-Pro 2 cameras for all my work, including professional work. They are amazing in every respect. You’re spot on about the viewfinder. And why don’t they just get rid of the video and make it a purely photography camera? We should start bc a petition! Thanks again
I agree with you Kevin, it's definitely time for an X Pro 4. As a devoted X Pro 3 user I'd really like IBIS, the back display screen restored like the X Pro 2 had and a slightly larger grip on the right. I've just got my X100 VI and I"m interested to see whether it's going to be my go-to camera and replace my X Pro 3 in that respect. Still debating whether to sell my XT 4 as it sits in the bag a lot of the time now. Keep producing the great videos, Kevin. Cheers.
There is a magic in the X Pro line that cannot be explained in technical terms. I have tried so many Fuji cameras over the last 10 years but I always take the best photos with the X-Pro 3. I am eagerly awaiting the Pro 4!
Hey Kevin~ I agree with you. I started with the X-Pro1 in 2012 and have always preferred it. I use the XT5, XE4 and X100V for weddings, but I’d get two X-Pro4 bodies if it ever comes out. (I’ll also be first in line for a digital XPAN). There is also a market for a real rangefinder like an M11, but that’s a completely different story…
X-Pro2 User here. I would love to see a matt black or dark grey X-Pro4. In my eyes they messed it up with the "3". The display idea was interesting, but not radical enough. I would love to see a Leica MD style X-Pro camera. I would ditch the flippable screen and just integrate a magentic display cover with for a static display. They should ignore those flippable screen screamers. 24MP are enough, but IBIS would be really nice.
What I’d like an X-Pro4 to have; - Larger OVF/EVF with dual magnification brought back, same magnification factors as X-Pro2 - Better serviceability, i.e. user replaceable rubber eyepiece, it’s Pro after all - Cleaner design with nods to X100 VI, remove branding on top plate - Clarity without blackouts - Better and more suitable management of custom film recipes, separate from C profiles - Digital Tele Converter with primes, incl correct frame lines in OVF - ISO dial with clutch (X100VI style) - HDMI output - Even though i prefer X-Pro3 display for hip shooting, because its so polarizing, simply make it available with two types of display; a) X-Pro3 style display, but better build quality, thinner, and with narrower bezels, sub display flush with panel. b) X100VI or X-T5 traditional style
I'd like some brass on the top & bottom plates. Purely an aesthetic issue - as the camera ages and is used, that 'brassing' that we used to see on cameras after a few years of use and abuse was just so much nice than the silver colour that we get now (assuming your digital camera gets used for long enough before the next model takes its place).
I am with you here Kevin. I pre-ordered an X-Pro2 the moment I saw Lok Cheung showing one on RUclips. I could not wait to get it and I loved it. I still have it and although I now have a lot of Fuji cameras, X-T and X-H models, my X-Pro2 is my go-to for London street photography. I have been desperately waiting for news of the X-Pro4 and if, and when it is announced, my order will go in on the same day. Great video, Kevin.
I have a beat up X-Pro2 that was used for many years by a wedding photographer (and it has the scars to show it). No idea how many frames it's taken but it is still going strong and it's my favorite camera to use. Its one of those cameras that as soon as you pick it up you want to put it to your eye and make photos, it's a joy to use. I don't get this same feeling with XT cameras, though interestingly I do get it with my x70. My ideal X-Pro4 would be simliar to yours, an X-Pro2 body with processor spec bump, and Lumix real time LUT type of system for stills.
I’ve been using the x-pro2 since many years for all kind of photography (mostly travel documentary, street and many weddings) and it is now the only digital camera I own. It‘s not just about the image quality and the versability. It‘a about how it feels in my hands, about the feeling I get each time I put it near my eye. I‘ve passed it now to my son (17) and he loves using it. And pls, Fujifilm, give us the X-pro4! This is as close as one can get to an Leica feeling without spending ridiculous $ 5‘000+ for a camera body.
I want to see an X-Pro 4 with all the specs of my X-T5 especially the IBIS, sensor, EVF and battery but with a solid X-pro build and ergonomics and an even more photography focused interface. Release it with an 18mm f/2 mark 2 LM WR and you’re going to have a winner in my opinion.
My first X was an X-E2 in 2014. Bought the X-E3 in 2017 after a watery accident with the former. Wanted to buy the X-Pro2 at the time, but stupidly thought the price difference was too much. And the X-E3 was literally brand new. Promised myself I would buy an X-Pro4 when that would come. I use my cameras for a long time, so gathered that the X-Pro3 would come too soon. But here we are, I’ve been ready for an X-Pro4 for a couple of years but where is it?
Love the video & images Kevin. I totally agree with what you said about the experience is different shooting with the Pro range. I’ve sold way more of the XT range in the range, but I feel much more connected to my Pro3. So like you, I live in hope of a 4.
Great video and comments. I am afraid Fujifilm will put that 40MP sensor in the next X-Pro if for no other reason for economy of manufacturing and that will be sad. I rented the X-Pro3 and found the flip down screen to be frustrating. For me, just going back to the flat LCD rear screen of the X-Pro2 would be an improvement. I agree the X-Pro4 is long overdue and it would be a terrible shame to do away with the X-Pro line.
They almost certainly will IMO, use the 40 MP sensor. I'd say there is no chance of any other sensor but the 40 MP sensor. I do love my X-T5 and X-H2S, but am always tempted by the X-pro line.
The LCD is the reason why I use the T line much more, and finally sell my neglected X-PRO2. Please Fujifilm put the X-T3/X-T5 up-down flip screen on the X-PRO4…
Coming from a Nikon user since the 80's. I picked up the xpro3 and absolutely loved it's feel and quality. Would love to get another fuji camera, my choice would be an xpro4 if it ever comes out. fingers crossed it happens. love your style of photography and some of your film simulations.
Lovely photos. I really want an XPro-3 I think. I've never had as much fun with a camera as my Voigtlander Bessa-R, and I never bonded with my Nikon D-SLR. I'm thinking this camera might be my way back in.
I have the X-Pro1 and can only speak from that point of view. I think that just making the camera as fast to use as one of the classic rangefinders is the holy grail. Fast, fast, fast and made to work in a zone focus style that Leica M6 flourishes in would make me buy.
I used the original X100 through the T and into the F, loved them all. I gave the F to my old dad who wanted a smaller kit. I planned to replace it with the V, no chance couldn't get one anywhere I then dropped on a well priced X-Pro2, loved it to bits, then so went crazy and bought the Q2, no regrets at all, but the XP2 was mothballed. Then I decided to modify the X-Pro2 to shoot black and white IR, the X-Pro2 is now a constant in my bag. Not sure the X-Pro4 would temp me but as I have more money than sense, fast running outta money tho', never say never.
Let's hope for that X-PRo4 Kevin! And I agree, keep the hybrid viewfinder, upgrade the autofocus, and keep the style and layout untouched. It doesn't even need IBIS! I still shoot all my work with two X-Pro3s (X100VI on it's way) and love the cameras. After almost 4 years with them I understand the camera so well now, love how I can shoot high ISO and it looks gorgeous. Also considering an X-T5 for the interim, but really really hoping for that X-Pro4.
Same here. Still using two X-Pro2s for wedding photography. Tried the X-Ts but did not like them from a shooting experience. I am bound to the rangefinder style (they could imho drop the hybrid viewfinder). With the X-Pro 3 I really liked the feeling but the back screen was unusable for me in the professional context. Also the lagging/quirky shutter button was sadly annoying. So I am here still waiting for the X-Pro 4 ❤
Over the years after hauling around the Nikon F2, F3 D700, the XPro 1 made me want to shoot again. I own all the XPro line and hope the XPro 4 comes soon.
Great video Kevin, thank you for broadcasting what we’re all thinking! Hopefully Fuji has a REALA Ace up their sleeve 🤞 I would love to see an X-Pro 4 with the design language of the GFX 100 II. Integrated strap lugs, Bishamon-tex grip material, higher-res EVF and larger OVF, with some extra added flare like a titanium body and brass details.
Just looking through your photos is always so impressive and satisfying for me. I’ve been using X100F but always want to use X-Pro series and I hope X-Pro4 would be super machine.
Yes I’m waiting for an Xpro4. Love my X100V but would love interchangeable lenses. I’m hoping there’s a tilt screen on the Xpro4 pretty much just like the X100V. IBIS would be nice too!
My wish list for the X Pro 4: same body but bigger battery, ibis, 36mp and a couple of excellent pancake lenses. A fixed screen is ok, and ibis maybe not so necessary.
I would want so very little in an Xpro4. OVF that can project frame lines for the 18mm again (also we need an updated 18mm cron). AF acquisition from the OVF like the X100VI. A tilting back screen I can shoot off of like the EX4 screen. The titanium models had a lovely finish but the fit never impressed me. Gaps along the OVF, etc. Keep the formfactor character, just find a way of tightening up things. Less seems and screws, etc.
Totally agree. I use two X-T4 for professional things but if i could i would like to use an new X-Pro 4 with the latest Xh2/T5 technologies. I still use for my private shots my X-Pro 2 and i still enjoy it. It's simply my camera. My best camera :)
I completely agree. The X-Pro line are so much more distreet, rather than having a faux mirror 'hump' that is central. The rangefinder style X-Pro system means you can more easily see the subject and framing through the viewfinder too because the viewfinder is at the edge of the camera (rather than a camera in your face, and that's all the subject sees too). Cost will be a major factor with that expensive hybrid optical/digital system. Controversially I'd like to see a digital only VF. Is the X-Pro system really able to deliver a good optical experience? Not really IMO. For wider or longer lenses than the 23mm lens the VF is very compromised.
I'm gonna wait a little longer for the xpro4 or a (significantly smaller)fixed GFX50RII...hoping they come out before I sell my fuji gear and buy the leica Q3
I hope, that X Pro4 will have same form factor as X Pro1 had. I have now X Pro2, I didn’t upgrade to X Pro3 because of formfactor and I’m still missing my first Fuji: small, light and top off the art colours.
Very keen to use the X-Pro4 -- especially with the new Voigtlaender lenses. I'm mostly on L-mount now -- starting mainly from not being able to afford X-Pro models. I am willling to save a bit more for them now. I would also like to see a Panasonic, Sigma or Blackmagic camera licensing Fuji's Hybrid Viewfinder.
Love your work….would also love to know what your favourite go-to lens is when you shoot with your XPro3….your shots are unique….its amazing how you consistently fill the frame. That’s my favourite aspect of your photography!
I would certainly order an XPro4 immediately. Love the output of my XH2S but it does not inspire me to pick it up (in the hand, it feels excellent, still) so much.
I totally agree with you. The original X100 and the X-Pro1 are the reason why I switched over to Fuji in the first place and I'd love to buy a new X-Pro. Now one thing I know for sure Fuji has been working on a new iteration. Will it be out and when? I don't know but I hope your video will help Fuji make the right decision. Thanks! Cheers
I wondered a lot about what could make an xpro4 a better experience then the previous models ? 2 crazy suggestions : 1st) Imagine a built diffusion filter, using a similar mechanism to the built in NDs in the X100 series 2nd)Imagine if they made manual focus lenses that are relatively the size as the F/2 series of primes , and in theory sens they don’t have a motor they might even be able to make them faster !!!
You named it Kevin. After some excursions out to the xpro3 and XT4 and 5. I have to say that the Xtrans3 is one of the best sensors Fuji made until yet. I downgraded my setup back to the Xpro2 and the x100f. So same sensors for all of my work. And I never regret it. The autofocus is still okay for my work. I just need to clean up my xpro2 sensors 😅
Started with an xpro1 when it first came out. Then moved onto the xpro2 which I’m still using and when that dies I’ll be looking for another xpro2. I think Fuji missed the boat with the 3 , but would be interested to see what a 4 might bring to the market
Been a HUGEE fan since 2012, and wanted it ever since…Never did I get x-pro line camera, still want it… Changed like 3 x100 line camera tho, but wanted the versatility of x-pro line
WOW HSL slider is an amazing idea. As a dad who has no time for edits in post. I’d massively value more in camera control! X100VI user here… coming from XT line. Never knew how much more I prefer range finder style/ergonomics. I could see myself buying an Xpro4
The X- Pro 2 was my first Fujifilm Camera, and I loved it so much- I had it alongside my XT's, GFX, X100 and it was by far my favourite but I never got the X-Pro 3, as at that time it wasn't for me. Then I moved away from Fujifilm, and although I was back briefly with the X100vi before selling that, I still watch and wonder why they dont do a X-Pro 4, or even a fixed lens GFX. Good to see you Kev, catch you for a beer some day down the road mate
I have the XPro1 and Xpro3 and like you look forward to the next creation of XPro. Meanwhile I'll continue to use them for street and use my newly purchased XH2 which I feel is like carrying a brick in comparison, for everything else. I'm just learning to use Video.
I would very much look forward for a new XPro. I have been shooting weddings accross Europe for a decade with XPro1 cameras. I have owned 8 of them, and I'm using the last two brand new camera bodies I own. Since they stopped repairing those old beautiful and stunning cameras* I desperately need an update. I believe what I would need in an XPro4 is the feeling I never got when testing the Pro2 and Pro3. There's something very special having a Pro1 in hand that the two latest editions didn't get to me. It's beyond the image quality and differences that I've also tested and not been a big fan of, it's the connection with the camera. A tool dedicated to photography, raw, efficient, and so simplistic it makes it the best camera ever to me. * After contacting Fuji Fr & global, if anyone know anyone servicing XPro1 ... I'd be the happiest person.
I sold off my Fuji bodies and 14 Fuji lenses when Fuji abandoned the X-Pro ( I also had the H1) and switched to Leica, first the Q2, and then M11 and 4 lenses and recently added the Q3. Fuji lost me due to how they treated the X-Pro (I had the 1 and the 2 but did not want the weird pro3 screen) and I will never look back at this point. My brother did the same thing he had the X-Pro3, X-Pro2 and 8 lenses; he is also gone full Leica.
Excellent video Kevin - very passionate and I hope…..ultimately successful! I’d certainly be in the order queue. Great denim Overshirt too - where can I buy one?? - keep up the great work - Peter.
I like the Range finder style, I would not mind ditching the optical viewfinder and offering the best EVF available. Definitely range finder style is my preference.
In total agreement with your statement! The only thing I’d love is IBIS but then it’s not a deal breaker. It’s the reason I switched from Canon and fell in love with Fujifilm’s tools. Now an update to the GFX 50R would be even more wonderful… why the 100s needs to be updated, I do not know.
I enjoyed this video very much. I have the X-Pro 1 still t this day. The technical advances Fuji has made since it's release are worthy of a XP4 however, the original sensor is to this day my favorite. Even in this video they are preferred to my eye at least. I am wondering what your recopy was for the B&W images in the beginning of this video, would you share? On the subject of the X-Pan, this may be my next image maker....
I too am curious what the Pro 4 will bring in the future. As a Leica film shooter and dominant OVF, manual focus and right eye shooter, and part time auto focus shooter. This has been the digital camera for me since the XPro 1. That being said, I can't say I agree with alot of the features you would like to see. I feel like the current line of Fuji cameras has your needs, and the needs of the majority of today's photographer. Why have an OVF camera with DSLR and video camera features in a mirrorless body? I can't say there's a go to market strategy for that, however I would like to see the opposite. Remove the rear LCD all together, Ild like to see the optical magnifier from the XPro2 back in, while also keeping the corner focus pop up somehow. IS can be interesting, but not a deal breaker, new battery and card system would be nice as well. In other words, bring something to the table that doesn't exist with the rest of the Fuji line up. I would argue, to bring back the XE series at a lower cost for those that don't care for the OVF, it pains me to see XPro users that 99% of the time use the EVF and the rear screen like an iPhone (and yes there's alot of them out there. I see you). I don't have Fuji's analytics to understand the market that each model covers, but having a model that's outside the current line up would expand their customer base. Otherwise it seems like another XT series with an EVF on the left side of the body. How many users are out there for that type features, requiring that level of R&D, marketing and manufacturing costs and would yield profit for the company? At the end of the day, Fuji is needs to make money.
I went to the fuji house of photography last month in london and they told me directly that the x-pro line is "on hiatus" when I asked about the stopped production of the 3 and continuation of the line
Totally share your passion for the Xpro series. It's just a piece of art using the camera all around. Don't care about the specs, it's all about the emotional factor with pictures for me. All cameras today are more than good enough to take great photos, but to have a camera that looks and feels great to use is basically everything and all that matters!
I still have an X-Pro1 and X-Pro2. I passed on the X-Pro3 as it did not appeal to me. I had an X-T1 at one time, but my daughter has it now... it never appealed to me. I know it would never happen, but I would like the original 16mp X-Pro1 XTRANS sensor in an X-Pro2 body with a faster processor (faster AF/image processing/bigger buffer). Also a USB-C port to modern it up.
Yes sir!............. Fuji LISTEN to Mr Mullins XPRO 4!!!!!!!! ..........“The whole point of taking pictures is so that you don’t have to explain things with words.” - Elliott Erwitt 😎
A case well made for continuing the X-Pro line of cameras. Some of the groundwork for a putative X-Pro 4 must surely already have been done with the X100VI.
X-Pro2 user here and what I'd like to see in the X-Pro4. A compact high power rechargeable handgrip, 26 or 40MP sensor doesn't matter, a real flip screen, better optical and digital viewfinder, IBIS, faster and accurate autofocus, no sticky fingerprint finish and the same ergo as XP2. Most importantly, discard or limit the video function.
Thank you for this video. I’ve always gravitated towards interchangeable lens cameras which has driven my love over the X-Pro and X-E bodies and not the X100. Owned the version 1 and 2 but did switch to the X-E family because I tended to rely more on the EVF. That said I’d love to see what Fuji could do with an X-Pro4. Until then I’ve added Sony’s compact C bodies the A7CII and A7CR at Full Frame and 33 and 61 Mpixels. Can Fuji make an X-Pro4 to compete with these. I hope so. Take care.
I want that new bigger battery. Between that and the things you mentioned above, I would pay right now. I actually would love to see them keep the different finishes and colors. I thought that was so cool. The dura silver is so beautiful, but I love all of them. Maybe bring back the different magnifications that the x-pro2 had as well. Fingers crossed!
I think at the end of the video, you hit on the crux of the issue. I have an X-Pro 3 (and a broken X-Pro2 that I accidentally destroyed) that I love and use frequently. How can it be improved upon? For what I use it for, it's damn near perfect. I don't need more resolution, the autofocus is good enough for street and city photography, IBIS might be useful in certain circumstances but mostly it's fine just as it is. I believe Fujifilm has said that they will update the X-Pro 3 when they have something meaningful to offer, but they may well be struggling to figure out what that would be.
Enjoyed watching your video. iam mainly xt shooter with some x100v/f use. I have owned most xt variants except xt3 currently use xt5. I am not exclusively fujifilm coming into digital from minolta background. I've owned and still use olympus. it's about which each camera brings that joy that look the em1 mkii and xt2 have a special place.
Your point about how they can improve the X-Pro line resonates with me especially in conjunction with the escalating cost of Fuji new releases, ( not unique to Fuji I know but relevant to me ). I'm a stills only hobbyist and my perfect condition used X-Pro2 Graphite edition cost me just over GBP 500 before used prices on all models went crazy. I cannot see a world in which a likely GBP 2,000 XPro4 is going to offer such an improved overall feature set useful to me that justifies 4 times the expenditure to upgrade. The same scenario applies with my X-E3, X100F & X-H1 and the models that have superceded them. I follow Fuji's camera developments with interest but I think for me gear wise there is more probably more value to my photography in filling out my lens line up with some great value propositions like the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 and 75mm f1.2.
I hear you. And I always say "if the gear you have now is good enough, then don't change". And you are right, prices have gone up across the board for everything in the industry annoyingly.
The XP3 is fine. I used it for many many weddings. However, it's simply not as good as the newer cameras and I can get better and faster work done with them. I just don't enjoy using the DSLR style cameras as much - hence the wait for an XP4 goes on.
Yeah you tell’m Kev! …. Im not even an XPRO lover particularly but you got my juices flowing 🤣. Great content to the video 👍. All hail that 16mp sensor… still cherish my original x70 - please Fuji … listen to this man, he is still a great ambassador for your products, he should be moved upstairs as an advisor/director - it works in football 😉
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Please Fuji, listen to this great photographer.
I’m with you Kevin 😊
thank you so much Kevin for supporting the cry for a new X-Pro4 camera
X-pro2 user here. I agree, an Xpro4 is an important component of a Fuji lineup moving forward. It's not their biggest selling line, but imo it - and the X100 - is their defining product as a manufacturer. It tells the world how Fuji sees itself. And they are just plain great to use.
I'm pro-2 here. And Olympus 35SP...
I own 5 Fuji cameras but my Xpro1 is hamds down the one that brings me pleasure as soon as I pick it up. It's like meeting an old friend who understands me
Absolutely!
All Fuji has to do is put the new battery, new 40mp sensor, IBIS, and a slightly higher res set of screens in the X-pro 4 and it will sell like hotcakes- esp. given all the X100VI hype. Such a horrible business decision to not have done this yet!
No you have to look at it from a economy and philosophy standpoint ; the Pro series was never the best selling lineup from Fuji even it has a cult following (myself included) and just cramming in all the features from the X-T line will turn the X-Pro into something it never was - like all the other generic cameras.
The displayed pictures are just mindblowing
Thank you. Very kind.
Couldn't agree more. I'm new to the X-Pro3 and absolutely loving it. The only reason I went with a pre owned X-Pro3 was because I couldn't wait for the X-Pro4....
Please Fuji, please make an X-Pro4....📷🥰👍
Heartily agree with you Kev. I’m a long time X-Pro 2 user and I love the tactile experience that using it brings to my photography. I like the X-E range too but there’s something special about the X-Pro cameras. I really hope Fujifilm don’t give up on them.
I absolutely agree. Please Fujifilm, continue the XPro line!
Eventually gave up waiting and bought a Leica Q2. The experience is so similar to using Fujifilm, and the image quality is amazing.
Danke!
Thank you so much 🙏
Couldn't agree more. I love my Xpro2. I love how it feels in my hands. It makes me want to use it!
Please, Fujifilm, please continue this range. Thank you, Kevin, for speaking out.
I agree Kevin. Hope they do end up making one. I think they could market it as when you're ready to "graduate" from the X100. I feel like the x100 has sold so well, I see those people as potential buyers of an Xpro4.
Here here Kevin. Thank you for this considered and forthright appeal. What are they thinking? I still use and love my X-Pro 2 cameras for all my work, including professional work. They are amazing in every respect. You’re spot on about the viewfinder. And why don’t they just get rid of the video and make it a purely photography camera? We should start bc a petition! Thanks again
I totally agree with you. And i hope they will follow the project of the xpro2 and less the xpro3 style.
I really need one.
Agreed. An X-Pro2 with the 26MP sensor, modern jpeg engine, and a tilt screen pretty much covers all I want from a camera.
Kevin you are AWESOME! Fingers crossed “Your Friends in Tokyo” are listening!!
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I agree with you Kevin, it's definitely time for an X Pro 4. As a devoted X Pro 3 user I'd really like IBIS, the back display screen restored like the X Pro 2 had and a slightly larger grip on the right. I've just got my X100 VI and I"m interested to see whether it's going to be my go-to camera and replace my X Pro 3 in that respect. Still debating whether to sell my XT 4 as it sits in the bag a lot of the time now. Keep producing the great videos, Kevin. Cheers.
I agree 100%. Please Fujifilm! Also your photos are divine. Thanks Kevin!
Thank you.
There is a magic in the X Pro line that cannot be explained in technical terms. I have tried so many Fuji cameras over the last 10 years but I always take the best photos with the X-Pro 3. I am eagerly awaiting the Pro 4!
Hey Kevin~ I agree with you. I started with the X-Pro1 in 2012 and have always preferred it. I use the XT5, XE4 and X100V for weddings, but I’d get two X-Pro4 bodies if it ever comes out. (I’ll also be first in line for a digital XPAN). There is also a market for a real rangefinder like an M11, but that’s a completely different story…
A true pro photographer claiming what thousands of photographers are expecting from Fuji. Thank you for this particular video.
Thanks for watching!
X-Pro2 User here. I would love to see a matt black or dark grey X-Pro4. In my eyes they messed it up with the "3". The display idea was interesting, but not radical enough. I would love to see a Leica MD style X-Pro camera. I would ditch the flippable screen and just integrate a magentic display cover with for a static display. They should ignore those flippable screen screamers. 24MP are enough, but IBIS would be really nice.
Yup, I'm with you here.
Is a 24MP sensor good enough for clean 36"x24" prints?
What I’d like an X-Pro4 to have;
- Larger OVF/EVF with dual magnification brought back, same magnification factors as X-Pro2
- Better serviceability, i.e. user replaceable rubber eyepiece, it’s Pro after all
- Cleaner design with nods to X100 VI, remove branding on top plate
- Clarity without blackouts
- Better and more suitable management of custom film recipes, separate from C profiles
- Digital Tele Converter with primes, incl correct frame lines in OVF
- ISO dial with clutch (X100VI style)
- HDMI output
- Even though i prefer X-Pro3 display for hip shooting, because its so polarizing, simply make it available with two types of display;
a) X-Pro3 style display, but better build quality, thinner, and with narrower bezels, sub display flush with panel.
b) X100VI or X-T5 traditional style
I'd like some brass on the top & bottom plates. Purely an aesthetic issue - as the camera ages and is used, that 'brassing' that we used to see on cameras after a few years of use and abuse was just so much nice than the silver colour that we get now (assuming your digital camera gets used for long enough before the next model takes its place).
I am with you here Kevin. I pre-ordered an X-Pro2 the moment I saw Lok Cheung showing one on RUclips. I could not wait to get it and I loved it. I still have it and although I now have a lot of Fuji cameras, X-T and X-H models, my X-Pro2 is my go-to for London street photography. I have been desperately waiting for news of the X-Pro4 and if, and when it is announced, my order will go in on the same day. Great video, Kevin.
I'll queue up with you at the store and we can order together :-)
I will as well
I have a beat up X-Pro2 that was used for many years by a wedding photographer (and it has the scars to show it). No idea how many frames it's taken but it is still going strong and it's my favorite camera to use. Its one of those cameras that as soon as you pick it up you want to put it to your eye and make photos, it's a joy to use. I don't get this same feeling with XT cameras, though interestingly I do get it with my x70. My ideal X-Pro4 would be simliar to yours, an X-Pro2 body with processor spec bump, and Lumix real time LUT type of system for stills.
I’ve been using the x-pro2 since many years for all kind of photography (mostly travel documentary, street and many weddings) and it is now the only digital camera I own. It‘s not just about the image quality and the versability. It‘a about how it feels in my hands, about the feeling I get each time I put it near my eye. I‘ve passed it now to my son (17) and he loves using it. And pls, Fujifilm, give us the X-pro4! This is as close as one can get to an Leica feeling without spending ridiculous $ 5‘000+ for a camera body.
I want to see an X-Pro 4 with all the specs of my X-T5 especially the IBIS, sensor, EVF and battery but with a solid X-pro build and ergonomics and an even more photography focused interface. Release it with an 18mm f/2 mark 2 LM WR and you’re going to have a winner in my opinion.
Got a second hand X-Pro2 recently and it's been such a joy to use compared to my X-T5... Couldn't understand the need for an X-Pro4 until now.
My first X was an X-E2 in 2014. Bought the X-E3 in 2017 after a watery accident with the former. Wanted to buy the X-Pro2 at the time, but stupidly thought the price difference was too much. And the X-E3 was literally brand new. Promised myself I would buy an X-Pro4 when that would come. I use my cameras for a long time, so gathered that the X-Pro3 would come too soon. But here we are, I’ve been ready for an X-Pro4 for a couple of years but where is it?
Love the video & images Kevin. I totally agree with what you said about the experience is different shooting with the Pro range. I’ve sold way more of the XT range in the range, but I feel much more connected to my Pro3. So like you, I live in hope of a 4.
Great video and comments. I am afraid Fujifilm will put that 40MP sensor in the next X-Pro if for no other reason for economy of manufacturing and that will be sad. I rented the X-Pro3 and found the flip down screen to be frustrating. For me, just going back to the flat LCD rear screen of the X-Pro2 would be an improvement. I agree the X-Pro4 is long overdue and it would be a terrible shame to do away with the X-Pro line.
They almost certainly will IMO, use the 40 MP sensor. I'd say there is no chance of any other sensor but the 40 MP sensor. I do love my X-T5 and X-H2S, but am always tempted by the X-pro line.
The LCD is the reason why I use the T line much more, and finally sell my neglected X-PRO2. Please Fujifilm put the X-T3/X-T5 up-down flip screen on the X-PRO4…
Coming from a Nikon user since the 80's. I picked up the xpro3 and absolutely loved it's feel and quality. Would love to get another fuji camera, my choice would be an xpro4 if it ever comes out. fingers crossed it happens. love your style of photography and some of your film simulations.
Would it kill them to add the jpeg 65:24 aspect ratio option?
Lovely photos. I really want an XPro-3 I think. I've never had as much fun with a camera as my Voigtlander Bessa-R, and I never bonded with my Nikon D-SLR. I'm thinking this camera might be my way back in.
I have the X-Pro1 and can only speak from that point of view. I think that just making the camera as fast to use as one of the classic rangefinders is the holy grail. Fast, fast, fast and made to work in a zone focus style that Leica M6 flourishes in would make me buy.
I used the original X100 through the T and into the F, loved them all. I gave the F to my old dad who wanted a smaller kit. I planned to replace it with the V, no chance couldn't get one anywhere I then dropped on a well priced X-Pro2, loved it to bits, then so went crazy and bought the Q2, no regrets at all, but the XP2 was mothballed. Then I decided to modify the X-Pro2 to shoot black and white IR, the X-Pro2 is now a constant in my bag. Not sure the X-Pro4 would temp me but as I have more money than sense, fast running outta money tho', never say never.
A digital x-pan style camera would be at the top of my list! I’m vacillating between X-Pro3 and X100 vi. Weird, right? But I value added portability.
Beautiful photos. XPro3 user, hoping Fuji produces an Xpro4. I love the rangefinder design, closed back on the XPro3 , and user experience.
Fingers crossed!
Let's hope for that X-PRo4 Kevin! And I agree, keep the hybrid viewfinder, upgrade the autofocus, and keep the style and layout untouched. It doesn't even need IBIS! I still shoot all my work with two X-Pro3s (X100VI on it's way) and love the cameras. After almost 4 years with them I understand the camera so well now, love how I can shoot high ISO and it looks gorgeous. Also considering an X-T5 for the interim, but really really hoping for that X-Pro4.
Same here. Still using two X-Pro2s for wedding photography. Tried the X-Ts but did not like them from a shooting experience. I am bound to the rangefinder style (they could imho drop the hybrid viewfinder). With the X-Pro 3 I really liked the feeling but the back screen was unusable for me in the professional context. Also the lagging/quirky shutter button was sadly annoying. So I am here still waiting for the X-Pro 4 ❤
Over the years after hauling around the Nikon F2, F3 D700, the XPro 1 made me want to shoot again. I own all the XPro line and hope the XPro 4 comes soon.
Great video Kevin, thank you for broadcasting what we’re all thinking! Hopefully Fuji has a REALA Ace up their sleeve 🤞
I would love to see an X-Pro 4 with the design language of the GFX 100 II. Integrated strap lugs, Bishamon-tex grip material, higher-res EVF and larger OVF, with some extra added flare like a titanium body and brass details.
Just looking through your photos is always so impressive and satisfying for me. I’ve been using X100F but always want to use X-Pro series and I hope X-Pro4 would be super machine.
Thank you and keep enjoying the X100F. It's a great camera.
@@kevin_mullins yes, indeed. More years I use X100F, more I realize it is a great camera and I have not understood its capabilities and greatnesses.
Yes I’m waiting for an Xpro4. Love my X100V but would love interchangeable lenses. I’m hoping there’s a tilt screen on the Xpro4 pretty much just like the X100V. IBIS would be nice too!
My wish list for the X Pro 4: same body but bigger battery, ibis, 36mp and a couple of excellent pancake lenses. A fixed screen is ok, and ibis maybe not so necessary.
I would want so very little in an Xpro4.
OVF that can project frame lines for the 18mm again (also we need an updated 18mm cron).
AF acquisition from the OVF like the X100VI.
A tilting back screen I can shoot off of like the EX4 screen.
The titanium models had a lovely finish but the fit never impressed me. Gaps along the OVF, etc. Keep the formfactor character, just find a way of tightening up things. Less seems and screws, etc.
Fully agreed. I have the Xpro1 and a few more modern Fuji cameras but am put off the Xpro3 by that screen. Xpro4, as you describe would be wonderful.
Totally agree. I use two X-T4 for professional things but if i could i would like to use an new X-Pro 4 with the latest Xh2/T5 technologies.
I still use for my private shots my X-Pro 2 and i still enjoy it. It's simply my camera. My best camera :)
I completely agree. The X-Pro line are so much more distreet, rather than having a faux mirror 'hump' that is central. The rangefinder style X-Pro system means you can more easily see the subject and framing through the viewfinder too because the viewfinder is at the edge of the camera (rather than a camera in your face, and that's all the subject sees too). Cost will be a major factor with that expensive hybrid optical/digital system. Controversially I'd like to see a digital only VF. Is the X-Pro system really able to deliver a good optical experience? Not really IMO. For wider or longer lenses than the 23mm lens the VF is very compromised.
I'm gonna wait a little longer for the xpro4 or a (significantly smaller)fixed GFX50RII...hoping they come out before I sell my fuji gear and buy the leica Q3
I hope, that X Pro4 will have same form factor as X Pro1 had. I have now X Pro2, I didn’t upgrade to X Pro3 because of formfactor and I’m still missing my first Fuji: small, light and top off the art colours.
Hi! I love the b&w shots. Would you mind telling me what presets of yours you used? Thanks
These will be from my Film Edition 3 - Monochrome set. :-)
Very keen to use the X-Pro4 -- especially with the new Voigtlaender lenses. I'm mostly on L-mount now -- starting mainly from not being able to afford X-Pro models. I am willling to save a bit more for them now.
I would also like to see a Panasonic, Sigma or Blackmagic camera licensing Fuji's Hybrid Viewfinder.
Love your work….would also love to know what your favourite go-to lens is when you shoot with your XPro3….your shots are unique….its amazing how you consistently fill the frame. That’s my favourite aspect of your photography!
Right now, my lenses I use 99% of the time for my professional work is the 18mm F1.4 and the 56mm F1.2
I would certainly order an XPro4 immediately. Love the output of my XH2S but it does not inspire me to pick it up (in the hand, it feels excellent, still) so much.
I totally agree with you. The original X100 and the X-Pro1 are the reason why I switched over to Fuji in the first place and I'd love to buy a new X-Pro. Now one thing I know for sure Fuji has been working on a new iteration. Will it be out and when? I don't know but I hope your video will help Fuji make the right decision. Thanks! Cheers
I wondered a lot about what could make an xpro4 a better experience then the previous models ? 2 crazy suggestions :
1st) Imagine a built diffusion filter, using a similar mechanism to the built in NDs in the X100 series
2nd)Imagine if they made manual focus lenses that are relatively the size as the F/2 series of primes , and in theory sens they don’t have a motor they might even be able to make them faster !!!
Yes, good ideas !
You named it Kevin. After some excursions out to the xpro3 and XT4 and 5. I have to say that the Xtrans3 is one of the best sensors Fuji made until yet. I downgraded my setup back to the Xpro2 and the x100f. So same sensors for all of my work. And I never regret it. The autofocus is still okay for my work. I just need to clean up my xpro2 sensors 😅
:-)
Xpro4 and upgraded f2 lenses are my most wanted right now and I’m mainly a Sony shooter. We all want it.
Xpro for life❤
Started with an xpro1 when it first came out. Then moved onto the xpro2 which I’m still using and when that dies I’ll be looking for another xpro2. I think Fuji missed the boat with the 3 , but would be interested to see what a 4 might bring to the market
Personally, I think the 3 is a great camera and worthy upgrade to the 2..... but let's hope the 4 comes along at some point.
Been a HUGEE fan since 2012, and wanted it ever since…Never did I get x-pro line camera, still want it…
Changed like 3 x100 line camera tho, but wanted the versatility of x-pro line
WOW HSL slider is an amazing idea. As a dad who has no time for edits in post. I’d massively value more in camera control!
X100VI user here… coming from XT line.
Never knew how much more I prefer range finder style/ergonomics. I could see myself buying an Xpro4
A new X-Pro 4 with a revamped 16mm f/2 - what a combo that would be. Choice of c.40mp would be nice to.
The X- Pro 2 was my first Fujifilm Camera, and I loved it so much- I had it alongside my XT's, GFX, X100 and it was by far my favourite but I never got the X-Pro 3, as at that time it wasn't for me. Then I moved away from Fujifilm, and although I was back briefly with the X100vi before selling that, I still watch and wonder why they dont do a X-Pro 4, or even a fixed lens GFX.
Good to see you Kev, catch you for a beer some day down the road mate
There is a rumor they are going to do a fixed lens GFX camera next year...ie, that will likely come out before the X-pro 4...
Kevin, excellent, well said ! The sooner we get the XP4 the better!
I have the XPro1 and Xpro3 and like you look forward to the next creation of XPro. Meanwhile I'll continue to use them for street and use my newly purchased XH2 which I feel is like carrying a brick in comparison, for everything else. I'm just learning to use Video.
I would very much look forward for a new XPro. I have been shooting weddings accross Europe for a decade with XPro1 cameras. I have owned 8 of them, and I'm using the last two brand new camera bodies I own. Since they stopped repairing those old beautiful and stunning cameras* I desperately need an update.
I believe what I would need in an XPro4 is the feeling I never got when testing the Pro2 and Pro3. There's something very special having a Pro1 in hand that the two latest editions didn't get to me. It's beyond the image quality and differences that I've also tested and not been a big fan of, it's the connection with the camera. A tool dedicated to photography, raw, efficient, and so simplistic it makes it the best camera ever to me.
* After contacting Fuji Fr & global, if anyone know anyone servicing XPro1 ... I'd be the happiest person.
I love your videos and photography, Kevin. Any chance you're going to make an X-T5 settings video since it's one of your primary shooters now?
It's on the list :-) - It's a big job to do it well though....
@@kevin_mullins that’s understandable. Looking forward to it.
I sold off my Fuji bodies and 14 Fuji lenses when Fuji abandoned the X-Pro ( I also had the H1) and switched to Leica, first the Q2, and then M11 and 4 lenses and recently added the Q3. Fuji lost me due to how they treated the X-Pro (I had the 1 and the 2 but did not want the weird pro3 screen) and I will never look back at this point. My brother did the same thing he had the X-Pro3, X-Pro2 and 8 lenses; he is also gone full Leica.
I just wish they find a way to add parallax correction for manual cameras.
100% Really hope we see this camera someday!
Excellent video Kevin - very passionate and I hope…..ultimately successful! I’d certainly be in the order queue. Great denim Overshirt too - where can I buy one?? - keep up the great work - Peter.
Great video. What features does an X-Pro4 require? Locking diopter adjustment dial!
I think that would be standard for sure. Amongst other stuff, I hope.
I like the Range finder style, I would not mind ditching the optical viewfinder and offering the best EVF available. Definitely range finder style is my preference.
In total agreement with your statement!
The only thing I’d love is IBIS but then it’s not a deal breaker. It’s the reason I switched from Canon and fell in love with Fujifilm’s tools.
Now an update to the GFX 50R would be even more wonderful… why the 100s needs to be updated, I do not know.
I enjoyed this video very much. I have the X-Pro 1 still t this day. The technical advances Fuji has made since it's release are worthy of a XP4 however, the original sensor is to this day my favorite. Even in this video they are preferred to my eye at least. I am wondering what your recopy was for the B&W images in the beginning of this video, would you share?
On the subject of the X-Pan, this may be my next image maker....
Thank you. All the images are edited with my own presets (you can find a link (and discount code) in the description) :-)
Hi Kevin, What about a Leica style focus patch, when manual focusing, in the new Xpro 4
The X-Pro already has that (or similar) in the focus assist settings.
They ought to drop the hybrid viewfinder and basically do an X100 with the 40 meg sensor and an x mount. Nothing very difficult about that!
I would like to see a return of the variable magnification in the OVF viewfinder based on lens focal length.
I too am curious what the Pro 4 will bring in the future. As a Leica film shooter and dominant OVF, manual focus and right eye shooter, and part time auto focus shooter. This has been the digital camera for me since the XPro 1. That being said, I can't say I agree with alot of the features you would like to see. I feel like the current line of Fuji cameras has your needs, and the needs of the majority of today's photographer. Why have an OVF camera with DSLR and video camera features in a mirrorless body? I can't say there's a go to market strategy for that, however I would like to see the opposite. Remove the rear LCD all together, Ild like to see the optical magnifier from the XPro2 back in, while also keeping the corner focus pop up somehow. IS can be interesting, but not a deal breaker, new battery and card system would be nice as well. In other words, bring something to the table that doesn't exist with the rest of the Fuji line up. I would argue, to bring back the XE series at a lower cost for those that don't care for the OVF, it pains me to see XPro users that 99% of the time use the EVF and the rear screen like an iPhone (and yes there's alot of them out there. I see you). I don't have Fuji's analytics to understand the market that each model covers, but having a model that's outside the current line up would expand their customer base. Otherwise it seems like another XT series with an EVF on the left side of the body. How many users are out there for that type features, requiring that level of R&D, marketing and manufacturing costs and would yield profit for the company? At the end of the day, Fuji is needs to make money.
use & love the x-pro3, I want to see the x-pro 4 & what it has to offer
I went to the fuji house of photography last month in london and they told me directly that the x-pro line is "on hiatus" when I asked about the stopped production of the 3 and continuation of the line
:-(
Totally share your passion for the Xpro series. It's just a piece of art using the camera all around. Don't care about the specs, it's all about the emotional factor with pictures for me. All cameras today are more than good enough to take great photos, but to have a camera that looks and feels great to use is basically everything and all that matters!
32MP, 7stop IBIS, photography based and what you said. What about a monochrome version!
I've given up my hopes of a monochrome version. But you never know....
I still have an X-Pro1 and X-Pro2. I passed on the X-Pro3 as it did not appeal to me. I had an X-T1 at one time, but my daughter has it now... it never appealed to me. I know it would never happen, but I would like the original 16mp X-Pro1 XTRANS sensor in an X-Pro2 body with a faster processor (faster AF/image processing/bigger buffer). Also a USB-C port to modern it up.
Yes sir!............. Fuji LISTEN to Mr Mullins XPRO 4!!!!!!!! ..........“The whole point of taking pictures is so that you don’t have to explain things with words.”
- Elliott Erwitt 😎
A case well made for continuing the X-Pro line of cameras. Some of the groundwork for a putative X-Pro 4 must surely already have been done with the X100VI.
X-Pro2 user here and what I'd like to see in the X-Pro4. A compact high power rechargeable handgrip, 26 or 40MP sensor doesn't matter, a real flip screen, better optical and digital viewfinder, IBIS, faster and accurate autofocus, no sticky fingerprint finish and the same ergo as XP2. Most importantly, discard or limit the video function.
....what is a rangefinder?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangefinder_camera
Thank you for this video. I’ve always gravitated towards interchangeable lens cameras which has driven my love over the X-Pro and X-E bodies and not the X100. Owned the version 1 and 2 but did switch to the X-E family because I tended to rely more on the EVF. That said I’d love to see what Fuji could do with an X-Pro4. Until then I’ve added Sony’s compact C bodies the A7CII and A7CR at Full Frame and 33 and 61 Mpixels. Can Fuji make an X-Pro4 to compete with these. I hope so. Take care.
Sad (and still can’t believe) to see they didn’t announce it today. I guess I’ll be loving my X-Pro2 that bit more than before!
I want that new bigger battery. Between that and the things you mentioned above, I would pay right now. I actually would love to see them keep the different finishes and colors. I thought that was so cool. The dura silver is so beautiful, but I love all of them. Maybe bring back the different magnifications that the x-pro2 had as well. Fingers crossed!
I think at the end of the video, you hit on the crux of the issue. I have an X-Pro 3 (and a broken X-Pro2 that I accidentally destroyed) that I love and use frequently. How can it be improved upon? For what I use it for, it's damn near perfect. I don't need more resolution, the autofocus is good enough for street and city photography, IBIS might be useful in certain circumstances but mostly it's fine just as it is. I believe Fujifilm has said that they will update the X-Pro 3 when they have something meaningful to offer, but they may well be struggling to figure out what that would be.
Enjoyed watching your video. iam mainly xt shooter with some x100v/f use. I have owned most xt variants except xt3 currently use xt5. I am not exclusively fujifilm coming into digital from minolta background. I've owned and still use olympus. it's about which each camera brings that joy that look the em1 mkii and xt2 have a special place.
Your point about how they can improve the X-Pro line resonates with me especially in conjunction with the escalating cost of Fuji new releases, ( not unique to Fuji I know but relevant to me ). I'm a stills only hobbyist and my perfect condition used X-Pro2 Graphite edition cost me just over GBP 500 before used prices on all models went crazy. I cannot see a world in which a likely GBP 2,000 XPro4 is going to offer such an improved overall feature set useful to me that justifies 4 times the expenditure to upgrade. The same scenario applies with my X-E3, X100F & X-H1 and the models that have superceded them. I follow Fuji's camera developments with interest but I think for me gear wise there is more probably more value to my photography in filling out my lens line up with some great value propositions like the Viltrox 27mm 1.2 and 75mm f1.2.
I hear you. And I always say "if the gear you have now is good enough, then don't change". And you are right, prices have gone up across the board for everything in the industry annoyingly.
What I would've like to know, why is the xpro3 not enough? Brighter viewfinder would mean a lot more cost.
The XP3 is fine. I used it for many many weddings. However, it's simply not as good as the newer cameras and I can get better and faster work done with them. I just don't enjoy using the DSLR style cameras as much - hence the wait for an XP4 goes on.