SO glad MicroCenter had two 8n stock, they are marked way up on eBay and Amazon. Literal no brainer purchase for the Ultimate Atari Arcade Fight Stick w/ track ball. I'm LOVING this thing, bought 2 Fight Sticks w/ track ball and no Pi. Using one as encoder / control board for a my projector display, pedestal multi-cade running off a Pi4 or PS2/PS3. Keeping second one in box for future projects.
Yeah definitely a no-brainer. I was spoiled a few years ago when I lived basically withing walking distance of a MicroCenter. It's about a 20 minute drive now but still having them local is awesome, especially with the demise of Fry's.
Great, helpful video, thanks...I'm definitely going to add the hole instead of sacrificing one of my buttons. PROBLEM!: When I plug in my spinner usb it's running on the Y/vertical axis, argh! I cannot get windows to switch it to X/horizontal. Weird. Any ideas why it defaults to Y and not X? I didn't think it would be a problem since I'd only be using it in MAME and you can tweak setting in there, but until it runs properly I can't even adjust those parameters.
That is very weird!! If you haven’t figured it out I’ll check in the next day or so to see if there are any options that I can find. When I installed my it defaulted to the X axis so did not have the same problem.
@@cjkcizur Thanks for the reply. I got it sorted out! Well, it's still running wrong (y instead of x) on my desktop but I spoke too soon above about not getting it right within MAME. You CAN simply assign individual game axis parameters to whatever you'd like. I simply assigned the "paddle" or "dial" x settings to the "y mouse" input and it works perfectly. Within a couple hours I had all my fav spinner games working perfectly with the new dial! Arkanoid, Omega Race, Out Run, Power Drift, Super Sprint, Tempest, etc, all much better with the spinner! Now I just gotta get that bit and make a new hole for it like you did (I hate having to sacrifice one of the current button slots for the new spinner). Thanks again.
If you short the button one and button two contacts to the ground contact on the bottom of the spinner simultaneously for 10 seconds, the X axis will swap to Y. Repeat to switch back to X. You can solder in wires to make this easier. The Amazon version of this comes with a connector soldered in plus two standard buttons, making the operation much easier.
I know the dimensions are: 28.34 x 7.28 x 5.70 inches . But could you please measure the box on the bottom where all the wiring is in? Want to see if this will fit in an existing cabinet.
Hey there, so the outer dimensions of the box are 25.375 x 10.375. It uses 5/8 plywood so the inner dimensions of the box are about 24.125 x 9.125. The front of the box is about 2.75 in deep and the back is about 3.875 deep. There are little rubber feet on the bottom that raise the whole thing up about .5 in. Hope this helps!
They have changed the graphics on the control board. Can you please respond with measurements from side and bottom to the center of where you drilled into the spider graphic
I just got an MC Atari fight stick with trackball and 32gb sad card with the games. I am not a techie guy by no means so my question is simple...can a spinner be added straight to the micro center Atari fight stick and if so were to plug it in to get it to work. I understand that the spinner needs to be configured for each game...just need guidance were to plug it into. Thanks.
No, the spinner basically acts as a USB mouse with only a single “axis”. It can be configured as controlling either X or Y axis but usually X. So you’ll just connect the USB of the spinner to your RaspberryPi or PC that you’re using for emulation.
@@cjkcizur Dont have a pc for it yet. So bacically just plug it into the rasberrypi then from there it integrates by itself? Is that right? Then configure each game that I choose?
Do you any suggestions for getting my trackball to work? The PC recognizes it as a mouse, but games don’t see it as a trackball. In Reteoarch it doesn’t allow me to change the input number. It only allows for “default”. I love the Atari Fight Stick. I just am frustrated trying to get the trackball setup. Thanks for any response.
Can you explain how to set up in mame once installed? Im new to this. Thx Im glad i bought this set from micro center when i did…they have been discontinued. For The price, they are solidly built, heavy duty and neatly built. You can not buy a more solidly built arcade stick then this one for $159! And with 140 games. Now if i can only add more games to it. Im not a tech guy. Will need to find someone to help me with that part.
How did you feel about the location you chose for the spinner? I just got one myself for the same controller and not sure where it would work best at... thanks in advance!!!
I'm considering getting one of these spinners. Do you think the Atari logo can be removed? It looks to me like one of those thick poly coated badges that just gets stuck on with some hot glue or something similar.
I know the type of badges you're talking about but I just took a closer look and it appears it may just be a regular sticker that sits in a little recess in the center of the spinner. So it looks to be very easy to remove but likely not without damaging the sticker (if that's even a concern).
@@cjkcizur Not a concern at all. Black goes with my color scheme but red doesn't so I would want to get rid of the sticker.. A little WD-40 will easily get rid of any adhesive residue. Thank you for the quick answer. I appreciate it.
I just added the same style that came on the unit which are Suzo Happ buttons that use standard arcade micro switches. Got the buttons and switches at MicroCenter as well.
Hey man, thanks a lot for that video ! i want to do the same with mine. I got a question maybe you could help. How did you add side buttons for pinball ? I mean where do you plug them on the controller board ? thx mate
I intend to make a video on adding those and how I've wired everything up for the flipper solenoids but I've unfortunately been pretty busy. However out of the box the XinMo controller supports up to 15 buttons on P1, and 13 buttons on P2. The board currently uses 8 buttons for each player, 1-6 for the black joy buttons, 9 and 10 for the white start/select buttons. So I just wired each into P1/P2 button 11. I'm using AHK scripts to map these to the appropriate controls in my pinball emulation software. The manual that comes with the unit has a pinout diagram of the controller, but you can also find it online just by searching for Xinmotek XM-10 Wiring.
@@OlympFit Using AHK yes you can map pretty much anything. Once I make my video (hopefully next week when I have some time off!) I'll post links to my AHK scripts etc. that I currently use to run everything.
@@cjkcizur I'm Subscribed for that video! Just got my case and bought my buttons..but leary about WHERE to place them and accommodate the wiring. Thank you! ALSO, where did you get the wires for connecting? (Part #) AND....do you have all the USB working off a USB splitter to only worry about ONE cord to the PC and does that do enough to power the whole unit or does it require extra power? Thanks for all my crazy questions.
I'm using a program called LaunchBox to frontend all my emulators. If you get the premium version you get access to the BigBox application which does the cool full-screen interface with themes, graphics, and animations.
FYI, to get MAME to see the spinner I had to set "multimouse" to 1 and "dial_device" to mouse in the mame.ini file, otherwise Mame will not detect the spinner as second mouse device. some frontends may make these changes as part of their setup, but Mame itself does not.
PC. Would love to do Pi but I really built this to play Golden Tee and the latest one that you can emulate doesn’t work on a Pi. There’s a link in the description that will get you to another video where I list my PC specs in the description.
nice. i dont know if im gonna do a spinner on mine,but i will do the pinball buttons like u got soon. ive seen videos of guys setting a mini steering wheel on top of their spinners too
I honestly don't have any idea on the resolution. It appears as a mouse input to the PC, so you can adjust the sensitivity from the Windows settings but not sure of the mechanical specs.
Absolutely, nothing available off the shelf that I’m aware of but the knob just attaches to a shaft and is secured with a set-screw. A wheel with the same type of mounting setup would work perfectly and is something I’ve been looking to try to come up with on my 3D printer.
At about 6 mins in after you drilled the hole on top and then you lifted the top and all that shi# went straight into that poor keyboard.. I cried a little.
Sigh. I need to stop looking at other people enjoying this stick. I really want one but I'm in Australia and the only way to get one is to pay Amazon US$191 plus $121 to ship it here. That's one hell of an expensive stick! I would want to add the spinner and pinball buttons too, of course. Out of interest, if the right side is P2, why didn't you install the spinner on the left? Edit: I would think about where the left edge of the A in Atari is would be ideal (and unfortunate)
Hey thanks for watching from Australia! That's extremely unfortunate about shipping costs, given that it's likely manufactured over on that side of the Pacific anyway you would think you could track one down with some less inflated pricing! As far as placement, as I mentioned in the video that was a big struggle for me as well. It really came down to my hand placement and that the 2-player side honestly doesn't get used too often so it's really out of the way. For regular joystick play, the 'A' in Atari would work well and pretty much be in a similar place as the 2-player location. However, the game that most often gets played on my setup is Golden Tee. So given the aggressive nature of how we mash on the trackball I was trying to keep it out of the strike-zone! Anyway, I don't think there's any perfect position and the location now seems to work OK for the limited amount of usage it actually gets!
No mine did not. I was not aware at the time they sold a combo pack with the RPi and Atari SD Card. Looks like currently the version wth Pi is $170, the one without is $120. Unfortunately it comes with a 3B+ which is probably fine but definitely not as good as a Pi4 if you want to do more than just basic arcade games.
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
This was cool , I'd like to see more of this setup and anything you've moded
SO glad MicroCenter had two 8n stock, they are marked way up on eBay and Amazon. Literal no brainer purchase for the Ultimate Atari Arcade Fight Stick w/ track ball. I'm LOVING this thing, bought 2 Fight Sticks w/ track ball and no Pi. Using one as encoder / control board for a my projector display, pedestal multi-cade running off a Pi4 or PS2/PS3. Keeping second one in box for future projects.
Yeah definitely a no-brainer. I was spoiled a few years ago when I lived basically withing walking distance of a MicroCenter. It's about a 20 minute drive now but still having them local is awesome, especially with the demise of Fry's.
Loved it. You should have played tempest. :)
I probably would have covered all the components and used a vacuum while drilling.
Great, helpful video, thanks...I'm definitely going to add the hole instead of sacrificing one of my buttons. PROBLEM!: When I plug in my spinner usb it's running on the Y/vertical axis, argh! I cannot get windows to switch it to X/horizontal. Weird. Any ideas why it defaults to Y and not X? I didn't think it would be a problem since I'd only be using it in MAME and you can tweak setting in there, but until it runs properly I can't even adjust those parameters.
That is very weird!! If you haven’t figured it out I’ll check in the next day or so to see if there are any options that I can find. When I installed my it defaulted to the X axis so did not have the same problem.
@@cjkcizur Thanks for the reply. I got it sorted out! Well, it's still running wrong (y instead of x) on my desktop but I spoke too soon above about not getting it right within MAME. You CAN simply assign individual game axis parameters to whatever you'd like. I simply assigned the "paddle" or "dial" x settings to the "y mouse" input and it works perfectly. Within a couple hours I had all my fav spinner games working perfectly with the new dial! Arkanoid, Omega Race, Out Run, Power Drift, Super Sprint, Tempest, etc, all much better with the spinner! Now I just gotta get that bit and make a new hole for it like you did (I hate having to sacrifice one of the current button slots for the new spinner). Thanks again.
If you short the button one and button two contacts to the ground contact on the bottom of the spinner simultaneously for 10 seconds, the X axis will swap to Y. Repeat to switch back to X. You can solder in wires to make this easier. The Amazon version of this comes with a connector soldered in plus two standard buttons, making the operation much easier.
I know the dimensions are: 28.34 x 7.28 x 5.70 inches
. But could you please measure the box on the bottom where all the wiring is in? Want to see if this will fit in an existing cabinet.
Hey there, so the outer dimensions of the box are 25.375 x 10.375. It uses 5/8 plywood so the inner dimensions of the box are about 24.125 x 9.125. The front of the box is about 2.75 in deep and the back is about 3.875 deep. There are little rubber feet on the bottom that raise the whole thing up about .5 in. Hope this helps!
They have changed the graphics on the control board. Can you please respond with measurements from side and bottom to the center of where you drilled into the spider graphic
I just got an MC Atari fight stick with trackball and 32gb sad card with the games. I am not a techie guy by no means so my question is simple...can a spinner be added straight to the micro center Atari fight stick and if so were to plug it in to get it to work. I understand that the spinner needs to be configured for each game...just need guidance were to plug it into. Thanks.
No, the spinner basically acts as a USB mouse with only a single “axis”. It can be configured as controlling either X or Y axis but usually X. So you’ll just connect the USB of the spinner to your RaspberryPi or PC that you’re using for emulation.
@@cjkcizur Dont have a pc for it yet. So bacically just plug it into the rasberrypi then from there it integrates by itself? Is that right?
Then configure each game that I choose?
@@juliuscaesar8801 yep! I haven’t used mine on a RPi but it should just register automatically as a HID mouse.
Do you any suggestions for getting my trackball to work? The PC recognizes it as a mouse, but games don’t see it as a trackball. In Reteoarch it doesn’t allow me to change the input number. It only allows for “default”. I love the Atari Fight Stick. I just am frustrated trying to get the trackball setup. Thanks for any response.
Can you explain how to set up in mame once installed? Im new to this. Thx
Im glad i bought this set from micro center when i did…they have been discontinued.
For The price, they are solidly built, heavy duty and neatly built. You can not buy a more solidly built arcade stick then this one for $159! And with 140 games.
Now if i can only add more games to it. Im not a tech guy. Will need to find someone to help me with that part.
How did you feel about the location you chose for the spinner? I just got one myself for the same controller and not sure where it would work best at... thanks in advance!!!
I'm considering getting one of these spinners. Do you think the Atari logo can be removed? It looks to me like one of those thick poly coated badges that just gets stuck on with some hot glue or something similar.
I know the type of badges you're talking about but I just took a closer look and it appears it may just be a regular sticker that sits in a little recess in the center of the spinner. So it looks to be very easy to remove but likely not without damaging the sticker (if that's even a concern).
@@cjkcizur Not a concern at all. Black goes with my color scheme but red doesn't so I would want to get rid of the sticker.. A little WD-40 will easily get rid of any adhesive residue. Thank you for the quick answer. I appreciate it.
On the side panels you said you installed buttons for pinball. Which particular brand and style do you recommend ?
I just added the same style that came on the unit which are Suzo Happ buttons that use standard arcade micro switches. Got the buttons and switches at MicroCenter as well.
Hey man, thanks a lot for that video ! i want to do the same with mine. I got a question maybe you could help. How did you add side buttons for pinball ? I mean where do you plug them on the controller board ? thx mate
I intend to make a video on adding those and how I've wired everything up for the flipper solenoids but I've unfortunately been pretty busy. However out of the box the XinMo controller supports up to 15 buttons on P1, and 13 buttons on P2. The board currently uses 8 buttons for each player, 1-6 for the black joy buttons, 9 and 10 for the white start/select buttons. So I just wired each into P1/P2 button 11. I'm using AHK scripts to map these to the appropriate controls in my pinball emulation software. The manual that comes with the unit has a pinout diagram of the controller, but you can also find it online just by searching for Xinmotek XM-10 Wiring.
@@cjkcizur Thanks man that was helpful 🙏👍 so even tough pinball games are only one player, the P2 button 11 still works and can be maped
@@OlympFit Using AHK yes you can map pretty much anything. Once I make my video (hopefully next week when I have some time off!) I'll post links to my AHK scripts etc. that I currently use to run everything.
@@cjkcizur I'm Subscribed for that video! Just got my case and bought my buttons..but leary about WHERE to place them and accommodate the wiring. Thank you! ALSO, where did you get the wires for connecting? (Part #)
AND....do you have all the USB working off a USB splitter to only worry about ONE cord to the PC and does that do enough to power the whole unit or does it require extra power? Thanks for all my crazy questions.
Thanks SO much for the great review and install video. How's the long term performance been?
It's still working perfectly, however to be honest I don't play a lot of spinner games so it doesn't get a lot of wear and tear.
What MAME front end is that? The version I have is very old and generic. Would love to upgrade.
I'm using a program called LaunchBox to frontend all my emulators. If you get the premium version you get access to the BigBox application which does the cool full-screen interface with themes, graphics, and animations.
FYI, to get MAME to see the spinner I had to set "multimouse" to 1 and "dial_device" to mouse in the mame.ini file, otherwise Mame will not detect the spinner as second mouse device. some frontends may make these changes as part of their setup, but Mame itself does not.
Are you running all this through a pc or a pi? And what is your front end?
PC. Would love to do Pi but I really built this to play Golden Tee and the latest one that you can emulate doesn’t work on a Pi. There’s a link in the description that will get you to another video where I list my PC specs in the description.
nice. i dont know if im gonna do a spinner on mine,but i will do the pinball buttons like u got soon. ive seen videos of guys setting a mini steering wheel on top of their spinners too
I do have a 3D printer so a steering wheel mounted to the spinner is definitely a project I have on my list for the future!
do you know what the counts per turn is on this spinner?
I honestly don't have any idea on the resolution. It appears as a mouse input to the PC, so you can adjust the sensitivity from the Windows settings but not sure of the mechanical specs.
Question about this spinner: is there a a way to attach a small wheel to it?
Absolutely, nothing available off the shelf that I’m aware of but the knob just attaches to a shaft and is secured with a set-screw. A wheel with the same type of mounting setup would work perfectly and is something I’ve been looking to try to come up with on my 3D printer.
@@cjkcizur great! I ordered a mini spin trak wheel and it looked like it could fit.
At about 6 mins in after you drilled the hole on top and then you lifted the top and all that shi# went straight into that poor keyboard.. I cried a little.
Yeah....probably not the best execution! Fortunately have not seen any problems with it and if I do it’s luckily only a $20 fail!
i came to the comments to express my tears as well! awesome vid though im doing the same now was debating best placement..i agree with you
Sigh. I need to stop looking at other people enjoying this stick. I really want one but I'm in Australia and the only way to get one is to pay Amazon US$191 plus $121 to ship it here. That's one hell of an expensive stick! I would want to add the spinner and pinball buttons too, of course.
Out of interest, if the right side is P2, why didn't you install the spinner on the left?
Edit: I would think about where the left edge of the A in Atari is would be ideal (and unfortunate)
Hey thanks for watching from Australia! That's extremely unfortunate about shipping costs, given that it's likely manufactured over on that side of the Pacific anyway you would think you could track one down with some less inflated pricing!
As far as placement, as I mentioned in the video that was a big struggle for me as well. It really came down to my hand placement and that the 2-player side honestly doesn't get used too often so it's really out of the way. For regular joystick play, the 'A' in Atari would work well and pretty much be in a similar place as the 2-player location. However, the game that most often gets played on my setup is Golden Tee. So given the aggressive nature of how we mash on the trackball I was trying to keep it out of the strike-zone!
Anyway, I don't think there's any perfect position and the location now seems to work OK for the limited amount of usage it actually gets!
Did your unit come with a Raspberry Pie?
No mine did not. I was not aware at the time they sold a combo pack with the RPi and Atari SD Card. Looks like currently the version wth Pi is $170, the one without is $120. Unfortunately it comes with a 3B+ which is probably fine but definitely not as good as a Pi4 if you want to do more than just basic arcade games.
Can you link me the coin/arcade buttons you used?
These are the ones I got: smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5Y8E2Z
Nice video! Mine was delivered the other day. I have the one with the Raspberrypi. I really need help adding games, can anyone help me? Thanks!
Mac or PC?
you do know wood dust and keyboards and happ buttons don't mix well
Well if stuff starts failing it’s just an excuse to do more upgrades!