Best marching practice pad - Offworld vs Xymox vs Vic Firth vs Hanflag aka RCP
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2020
- Comparison and review of the best marching practice pads.
In this video I compare 4 practice pads to see which feels the most like a HTS marching snare drum. We compare the Vic Firth Heavy Hitter, the xymox Reserve, the Hanflag M12 Marching drum practice pad and the Ofworld Percussion Invader v3 Scojo practice pad.
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Know a BETTER PAD? let us all know!
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Hey man I wanna say I really love what you’re doing, your whole RUclips account is full of knowledge and really can show someone how to become a better drummer. Keep on doing what you’re doing and thanks bro ✍🏾🤙🏾
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Also, the xymox has a 14 inch option
The “byosphere” offworld byos pad is pretty good
I really like Xymox... It's a shame they ship their orders between 2 to 4.... YEARS!!!!!
Look up tekasmarching on Instagram their pads look and I would think feel the same as xymox
@@Clipmations heeeeey!!! Thaank you... They're great!
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I was literally looking for a video like this yesterday. What a coincidence! Thanks. 😂
I nearly released it yesterday to, but forgot after the live interview lol
Research xymox for 2 minutes...you'll never order from them.
xymox sux ya it’s been 10 1/2 months and I’m still waiting for my pad
Scojo pad from offworld! Bought it because of this video and I am not disappointed! Best pad I've played on
When you clean the invader with windex it gets all shiny and nice again.
It stops working after several months I had one and eventually windex stopped working
Honestly at this point it is what is tho. I’ve had my invader for about 4 years now and it’s still holding up great. Surface is still smooth. And I play on it almost everyday too
@@melvinsalvador8035 oh huh idk I use the v2 and it’s like 11 years old
@@Clipmations that's probably why. I find that you have to clean it often or else the shine never comes back
@@andrewchao9164 I think most v2's don't have the shine anymore because they are so old
Try the M12 with the laminate and you’ll feel a difference.
Also, this pad without laminate actually comes closer to a marching drum with Mylar heads - which are easier on your hands and healthier for your wrists in the long run. (RCP also make a very hard pad that uses aluminum under the laminate, which is kind of what playing on high-tension Kevlar feels like, anyway. Maybe check out THAT pad.
Lovee the Vic firth pad, my favorite by far. Nice and light. Sturdy too. Bring it everywhere
I bought the LoneStar special edition gold Invader V3 that comes with a mylar laminate that feels amazing, especially right next to my friends Xymox pad. That laminate is also a lot fancier than the Vic Firth laminate.
Offworld Percussion recommends to use Turtle Wax inside and out protectant on the dark matter surface to keep it shiny prevent cracking
I was wanting to upgrade from my 20-year old RealFeel pads (they still have the old HQ Percussion stickers and have held up great) and was trying to figure out what you were using in your other videos. I guessed it was either a V3 or IP. I ended up buying the non-ScoJo V3 because of the larger diameter. …and then I saw you had this review video. Glad I guessed right.
Anyhow, It feels awesome, much like my Pearl with a WhiteMax batter and is kind of in the middle of the hard/soft side volumes of a ReelFeel.
In addition to that Patreon link, you need an Amazon link that gets you a cut for your recommendations 😊 Thanks for the guidance!
Good video bro. Been after a decent neutral comparison pad video for a while, was tempted by the Xymox pad. Have also seen the Russ Miller Prologix that could be decent also.
thanks bro, let us know what you buy! I am about to release a new vid on the offworld 3 that might be worth your time if you want a marching snare type pad.
with the invader V3, armorall actually helps alot on prevent the rubber from dying
cool thanks
The regular invader v3 is basically like the scojo. But without the carbon fiber. It's only $63 plus double sided darkmatter
I notice for some reason that Offworld changed how they produced the Invader somewhere along the way. That’s what leads to damage in the center and in extreme cases I’ve even seen bubbling. The early ones weren’t made like that. I’ve had my V3 for a DECADE and it hasn’t had any damage or need for waxing. I’ll have it forever.
As for Xymox, they are the single most fragile pad on the market. They will break very easily. They take forever to arrive and the customer service is horrible. Anyone who has dealt with them knows how bad they can be. HOWEVER, the one pro is that with those (since they’ll break anyway) you can strip it down to just a gum rubber playing surface and have a snare gum pad that feels fantastic and will last.
good info, thanks. Xymox seem to need a buy out.
I have tried the Vic Firth, Xymox, and currently own a ScoJo Offworld. I like the size but it's SUPER heavy and the rim feels okay but is SUPER loud, especially relative to the playing surface. I also feel that the rubber isn't hard enough and feels like it sucks some energy as well
I really really like Xymox products. They make the best pads on the market, especially Tenor pads. However, I will never recommend that anyone buys from them because their service sucks. I’ve been waiting almost 2 years on a tenor kick. If they had decent service, I’d never buy anything else
I have the rcp active snare and completely agree with you. I don’t have the laminate but I’m going to try that and see if it feels better. Something needs to be altered with that design. My invader and slim pad are my favorites
let us know how you get on with the laminate, lots would be interested
Freestyle Rudiments Got the laminate and it’s much better. Still feels a little hollow to me (the wood bass needs to be thicker) but better articulation and overall sound quality. I wouldn’t recommend the pad without the laminate
@@mikeberardi2 THANKS appreciate you letting us know.
Thank you. OI is great.
Awesome. I have a Xymox pad and I like the sound of it. I ordered more Xymox pads in March and April 2019 and I just checked and they are still "In Production" :/ ...
Me too 🤦🏾♂️
@@devothadrummerboy6938 Yup. They seem to be shipping pads out every day so hopefully we get ours soon.
Theyre known for doing that shit
@@OddDrummerGaming I don't believe they are shipping anything.
Drumslinger perc or the Rudimental Drummers corps pad are the best ones on the market for sure.
Not had either if these to play on yet but will try as soon as I can.
I have never seen that happen to an offworld pad. They do say you have to clean it with window cleaner and turtle wax and stuff to maintain it, which is still a downside, but that does make it last longer. Or you can cover it with a laminate or stickers and stuff like a lot of people do
good tip, does it take long to wax?
I had an Invader for a few years and never had it rip like that. The waxing and Windex is really only to make it look better, it shouldn't ever break.
@@FreestyleRudiments nah you just put some of it on a paper towel and then wipe the pad. Should only take like 30 sec
Also hey cole lol
I have the scojo it says to maintain it you should use turtle wax. This will probably help with the peeling of the material.
Thanks, didn't know that
What is the snare drum you use
Use furniture polish for the scojo pad! Will look like new!!!
what was the thing he played at the beginning on the snare??
Im just starting to learn how to drum and im looking for a practice pad to ask for christmas.I saw an ad on facebook for turtle pads and it looks like a good pad to always have with me since im always doing things. Have you ever used it? If so what are your thoughts?
Let people here know about what you want to spend and you will get ideas.. I would say look today for black Friday deals in music stores. Vic firth for all-round or off world for drum corps feel or one with a actual head if you don't mind noise
You should do a review on the ram pad and RD pad
yea that would be cool, If they send me one I will review. I think RD is Europe? but might be harder to get the ram pad over here. Thou I am in the states for a trip next year (assuming virus has gone)
Ram Pad review-ruclips.net/video/byFySu0LlWo/видео.html
What is the snare that you are comparing the pads to!?!
Compared to the off world, is the vic firth a good thing to practice compared to a real marching snare?
Yes, especially for the price. Like he said tho, get the laminate for it. Otherwise it just feels like your normal gum rubber practice pad
I don't know if the Invader V3 surface is different but the Scojo and the V3 look the same. I practice 4-8 hours a day on my v3 for multiple years and there is no damage. and yeah you can easily clean the surface of an invader/Scojo/Any offworld with some Turtle wax or armor-all
The silver ring on the scojo makes it so there is less rebound so it’s more realistic
The v3 normally has a Mylar laminate head. There’s the original v3 with only the dark matter on both sides, then there’s the Mylar with Mylar on top and dark matter on the bottom.
I have an ahead and the laminate broke on mine too
What’s the stand that you’re using for practice pad?
Its a Gibraltar 6706EX. Great for practice pad BUT it doesn't holt a hts snare drum as the cradle is not wide enough. You can make it fit if you take the rubber off the cradle but thats not ideal, better finding a wider cradle of its for a drum.
is the pad that you're comparing everything to homemade? If not, where can i get one? I love the sound of it
i think it's a real marching snare...
@@david_cl35 Lol
That's a marching snare
I only payd like 50 bucks for my heavy hitter also I have a invader v3 and is it different from the scojo
thats good, has yours got a laminate on?
Please if you know of another good pad.
They are called BB's
What is the name of that thin snare drum your playing?
he took the head off of a full snare lmao
What kind of marching snare is that?
Is the offeorld Sojo pad much like the normal v3 pad? Same feel?
No that silver ring in the pad like absorbs the shock I think so it takes away from the rebound making it more realistic
@@ClipmationsResponse from Paul at Offworld:
Dennis,
Anytime you see any of our pads, top or bottom, featuring black and shiny material, it is always DarkMatter. The only other black surface you may see would be our black VML (vinyl/Mylar laminate), which has a carbon fiber look to it.
Hope that helps.
Paul
The RCP is far different than what you have
Can you make a video on how you made the snare drum? Can you just buy the parts and not a full drum with a shell and stuff? Great review by the way, great job.
sdjmalik made a video about it
what im more confused about is how he's able to do that yet still get a snare response.
James Willingham nah it’s gotta be differant, it has snare response.
Flarfatron no, it’s the same, i have one myself, if you crank down the head enough it sounds like it has snare response
I taped a metal snare to the bottom head on mine. Gorilla tape.
What sticks would you guys recommend for me
If your looking for a stick with a nice heavier feel. The Vic Firth Ralph Hardimons or the Hardimon Hammers are awesome. If you like a lighter, more aerodynamic stick, the Vic Firth Mike Jackson’s are also amazing. Both the Mike Jackson’s and Ralph Hardimons are about 11.50 but the Hammers are 21.50 if you don’t mind the price.
The VF pad is like 40 bucks MAX in the states. For anyone wondering it’s really the best value for money out of all of these
Its very good pad, is that price with the laminate?
Freestyle Rudiments no
I'll order Xymox pad now so by the time I die it can be delivered to my coffin and I can drum in the grave! In the meantime I'll just beat the air! Yay, Xymox!!!!
bro he got that xymox pad very recently. It's labeled as a Custom reserve pad, but if it has the four pads on the bottom instead of the old 2, that means that the pad has all of the technological advancements in the Ultra Reserve pad. From a real carbon fiber laminate (instead of the old printed one) to a new playing surface, the ultra reserve pad is significantly better than the previous custom reserve pad
Must've ordered a couple years in advance for the making of the video
"Xymox"
Average Time of Shipment: 2 years
Average Time of Durability: 2 months
Worth the wait? Depends who you are I guess. Have a 3 years plan with this company for maybe a specific concert or band camp. Don't expect it to last as your primary practice pad. It will last longer as a little feature....It's not made for actually drumming.
What about the RealFeel pads we were supposed to get in 6th grade?
I have a real feel. did a job back in the day but not compared to the new stuff imo
Freestyle Rudiments yea true, I prefer the xymox 14 inch just because not only does it play great, but the new stuff they added in laminates and customizing is great
which one is your favorite?
Out of these... Scojo
EVANS Real Feel #1 :)
Don’t go with Xymox, spent $200 on custom pads over 2 years ago, still haven’t gotten them and have been completely ignored in terms of customer service emails
What pad would you recommend for me I’m in 5th grade and I want to be in the middle school band
Vic firth heavy hitter pad or if your on a budget get a remo drum pad
@@jalenlove5455 @Poké Star also Evans realfeel pads are also very good
Thanks guys
Start small and get either the Vic Firth, or an Evans Real Feel pad. Have fun!
@@prestonjones20013 i got a black ahead pad and vic firth sticks
Just got a xymox hybrid, its coming in later this week. Hope it comes close to a real marching snare
I’ve had my scojo pad for four years and there’s no tear like yours
yea I'm wondering if this is a one off.?
Freestyle Rudiments offworld recommends cleaning the surface with turtle wax or some other cleaner when you get it every once in a while which helps keep the surface shiny and more responsive.
Freestyle Rudiments I’ve heard if you buy one and never clean it, the head will start to deteriorate. I put a thin sticker over the playing surface of mine which doesn’t affect the rebound too much but the actual rubber of the pad isn’t getting hit by sticks causing it to wear down.
@@prod.blockaye I've had mine for 11 years and it's still going strong
and I don't clean mine or wax it or anything. I don't think the dark matter
deteriorates.
@@DennisJohnsonDrummer that’s interesting. You might’ve just gotten a really solid model or something 😂
I don't agree that an Offworld pad is likely to fall apart; I've had three now, and they've all been perfectly sturdy. But I also don't agree that Offworld pads feel like a cranked Kevlar head. In 2015, I prepared for a solo contest by using an Offworld Invader, and that was a huge mistake. My hands adjusted to the pad, and I could barely play the solo on an actual drum.
Excellent pads, but there's no replacement for a real, live marching head.
tbh I have another offworld now and its not got any problem either, so maybe it was a bad one off? also what Ryan is saying about pad not being exactly like a snare is also 100% true, I am still waiting for a perfect replica that is quiet but for the moment the offworld with a laminate is the closest I have player, I have not played them all but like you can wait to find the missing link between pad and drum.
Okay so offworld with the laminate
interesting, the most interesting is what I have to show you.
Xymox sounds so good but I've heard that you won't ever get the product
no NEVER buy a xymox
Don't buy a Xymox Pad. They will give you constant false promises on shipping times, and it will generally take around a year to ship.
Yea its a shame they don't have direct competition. Are the pads made in US? Or China?
Freestyle Rudiments they’re made in California, they suck.
@@FreestyleRudiments They're made in the US. The issue is not even that they don't have competition. Their pads are made with cheap plastics, and they constantly run "sales" to trick people into placing orders that they do not receive for months on end. They also will not give refunds and they will cancel if you order any expedited shipping.
@@flarfatron2190 Go to xymoxpercussionsux.wordpress.com or share your story @xymoxsux on Twitter.
JustNaturallyBoss they don’t relise they can be sued for that
Dude! Dont support this company! Pretty sure they only reduce for RUclipsrs! Look em up!
*produce
xymox sux Yep. Only public figures on RUclips or Instagram seem to get their xymox pads. I bought mine on March 25, 2019 and I haven’t received either of the two pads I ordered.
@@gannondrums2741 I ordered a hybrid snare Oct 10 and it took just over 2 weeks shipped to my door.
@@xymoxsux got a xymox hybrid snare shipped to my door took 2 weeks. And I’m not an influencer lol
@Xymox has stolen my money. I ordered a pad for my son's 16th birthday. And we still have not received it. He is now 20. They will not respond to our emails. Do not purchase a Xymox pad.
Sorry to hear this. I am pretty shocked that nobody in the US has turned up at the "factory" with a camera... in the uk people would have been round with baseball bats by now lol... but we dont have guns to worry about.
@@FreestyleRudiments it is what it is. We are not unique in our experience with the company. I'm surprised that they are still in business.
This dude only knows how to play double stroke roll