fun fact: i ordered a drumslinger summer before my 7th grade year (2018). it was delivered without notice late freshman year (2021) i waited 3 whole years for it
Drumslingers been doing well lately, I got my pad in a week, and so did my 3 buddies that ordered some from the ready to ship page! However you’re right, they haven’t been great in the past lmao
Really? I’m curious how they’ve handled past orders, I’ve heard a lot of complaints of never receiving pads, but it has been a bit since I’ve seen much from them.
@@alexelymusic I ordered mine around December of 2021, and my friends got theirs within the last couple weeks, so maybe they’re starting to do better🤷🏼♂️
I've had an Invader v3 for awhile. I actually think it is the best pad I've ever owned and really wish they existed when I was in high school. However, the older I get the more I stray away from high tension. I find myself placing rags on the pad to lower the volume and tension quite often. I prefer that feel much more and am probably going to look into the quieter rubbery pads such as the Vater or Vic Firth Stock Pad.
@@alexelymusic Can you make a video ranking different companies of snare drums (Pearl, Yamaha, Dynasty, etc.)? I think that would be a great video for high school drumline instructors like me who are looking to upgrade equipment.
Disclaimer: This is all based off my experience. If you disagree or have something to share (or correct), feel free to leave a comment to change my mind! I’m very open to discussion about everything I spoke about. To those requesting more reviews: I do not have the means to purchase every pad, I just have played on quite a bit of pads throughout the years. Donations are welcome though ;)
I, as a high school freshman, placed my order exactly three years ago on March, 25th in 2019. I am still waiting to this day as a senior in high school :)
I bought a Xymox tenor pad in August of 2018 (the end of my freshman year of high school) already knowing that the company had a notoriety of long shipping times and poor customer service, but I took the risk anyways. When I told my dad like 3 weeks in that nothing shipped he told me to keep emailing them to which I did. I sounded more frustrated with every email I sent; luckily I got a response to every email. The pad arrived in January of 2019, so I only had to wait about 6.5 months for the pad to arrive. I know for sure I wouldn't have gotten the pad if I didn't keep nagging and I'm lucky it only took that long knowing other people's stories with the company. It feels like I bought it at the end of a point where they actually shipped pads. I've seen more videos talking about Xymox in the past two years than I had for the 4 years prior when I started getting into marching percussion which was around 2016. It also felt like there was a lot more complaints about not receiving any pads where most of the things I saw were people's orders arriving after a year+. Either the company somehow got worse or more marching percussion content creators had surfaced on the platform warning viewers not to buy from them. I personally think the latter, but it could be a mix of both because I remember hearing somewhere that the company went under or something so the chances of getting a pad now is quite literally 0% up from the solid like 17% chance before the company supposedly went under.
Update on Xymox, they got their shit together this year and I got mine in around 2 months. And my friend got his tenor pad in around 3 months. They still don't ship within the listed time but it is much better than they have been.
Drumslinger. Bill Olsen provides great customer service and stands behind his products. I own two- the 13 inch Corps Pad and the 12 inch Marcher Pad. Both were delivered in only three weeks. The pads are a work of art.
@@DennisJohnsonDrummer Unfortunate that my experience was so much different, though it has been a few years. Maybe one of these days I will give 'em another shot.
I absolutely love my Prologix vortex tenor pad, it was great for preparing for past auditions best pad I've ever owned. It's also great for writing to make sure everything feels right. I want to try the tenor Ram Pad but if I'm gonna shell out that kind of cash I might as well have just played on my drums.
Xymox doesn’t even deserve to be in any kind of quality test or anything else other than a court room honestly. Don’t give them this kind of press even if it is just clickbait
Drumslinger pads had supply issues because the ONE GUY who was making them lost a relative, and then got diagnosed with a life-threatening illness. There was no scam involved. As of 2024, he is making pads again, has filled nearly all the backorders and is now delivering new pads with a roughly 6-8 week turnaround. Remember, it’s ONE GUY making these pads one at a time. So give him some grace and a little respect for what he had to climb out of to get back to it.
Have you tried the Brash drums pad and if so what are your thoughts? Also I can agree with the new realfeel. It feels pretty good but damn the pad hands are insane.
I just ordered a xymox hybrid snare pad without knowing about their crappy processing. They said Im getting it before next week. If I dont should I file a complaint/appeal or demand a refund? How should I go about it. I am not about to let my money slip away like that😂
@@AltBoi-l4x If you used a credit card or debit card, do a chargeback with your bank. Their website says no refunds so I doubt Xymox themselves will do anything.
IMO the prologix green should be ranked above evans rf. It feels way better than the evans rf. At first I thought that green logix was an ordinary feeling pad because that's what they say in their website. But man when I played on it during the drumline workshop event here in the Philippines. I was surprised. It feels fantastic, and quiet❤
So, with ram pad, the smaller pads have to be curved to feel like a drum with the nylon heads, said by the owner. But the bigger 12 inch one does not have that curve on it, and it also comes with a carrier mount. I'll have to find the video again to link it.
I just own a HUN-U 12 "U-12" marching snare pad few months ago and it sounds amazing. I used that a lot it's basically a Japanese version of RCP idk if they still exist. I ordered off from Amazon I don't have no issues about it (not really) but other than that it's awesome. I'm still thinking wanna get a RCP marching snare pad for a backup I'll see how's my money going. 💜👍👍👍
Essentially when you play on a pad, you get used to how it feels, such as the rebound, the stickiness, the stick vibrations, etc. When you then play on a drum, you are not used to the way a drum feels and cannot play as well or you do not feel as comfortable. The best way to avoid it is by playing on a drum as much as possible and finding a pad that feels as close to a drum as possible.
Hanflag green labels for a lot of companies. I own a Hanflag pad but got a RCP laminate, it has a ton of rebound but feels more realistic with a laminate. I would only recommend a Hanflag(Hun) for private use, as it is loud & resembles a real snare too much to practice & warm up
The black innovative pad is the same exact pad as the offworld outlander, innovative percussion pays offworld for rights to the pad so they can slap their logo on in, if you have both side by side you can see the have the same serial number
my first pad was the hq real feel oh my God is it still one of the best ive ever had. started drumming in 2004 and the only other pads that have come close is the offworld invader v3 and the original vic firth slimpad. im hoping the new slim pad is back to the og but hail to the king hq real feel
Hot take, xymox isn’t terrible, atleast from my experience lol. My first xymox pad was second hand so I got it immediately so that wasn’t bad. I then ordered a tenor pad believing that I wouldn’t get it for a while but it actually showed up in about 2 weeks. I thought it may be a fluke and ordered a hybrid snare and sure enough about 3 weeks later it arrived. Most recently the reserve snare pads were 50% off so I ordered one for my dad (who is also a drummer) for Christmas, and it got here in just over a week. I’ve had a good experience with them but I know a lot of people haven’t.
Must be one of the lucky ones. I still haven’t received my hybrid snare, nor has really anyone else. Most of the Xymox pads I have seen or used are falling apart from normal usage.
I ordered a xymox tenor pad September of my freshman year hs. Had to email them constantly and didn't get it for 9 months, I had to threaten to sue those mfers before getting my pad finally.
I think i might have a drumslinger pad When i bought my bellset i got a pair of mallets, sticks, and a drum pad as well and it has an actual head and looks very similar to the picture
Ely, I know drum slinger has done poorly in the past. I have talked with the owner bill Olson he had medical problems which stopped him from making orders but now he's back in business and has fulfilled every order since.
OG slimpad and new slimpad definitely feel different. My room mate has OG, I have the new one. I've played them side by side. og is bouncier, almost unnaturally so, but fun as fuck to play on. minor thing I noted: during your review of the slim pad, you said you like the old slim pad more; then when you reviewed the old slim pad, you said you'd never actually played one!
A little late to the video but I've emailed xymox over 20 times over multiple email accounts just to get bot replies after my first email actually was responded to but I ended up getting ghosted. Still haven't got the pad almost 3 years later, and I never will. Sucks cause their pads I have played on have been nice. Invader v3 all the way
Owned a bus pad in the past. I wasn't a huge fan, the rubber was soft and didn't provide a good amount of rebound, and the pad liked to fall off my lap.
I've never used it so I can't speak for it, however I'd imagine the shuttle feels closer to a Outlander since the underlying surface is thinner than an Invader.
@@mang058 i swear i played on my homies once at a scvc camp and omg it felt so much better than my reelfeel it felt bouncier, high key sad i won’t find one anywhere 😥
Hey man i dont know if youve saw them but rudimetal drummers make great pads if you can get pne i would the take a few weeks to ship BUT they have great customer service and the pads feel amazing there a s plus in my opion
I've actually never had issues with xymox. I know everyone does. Ive bought 2 quad pads, a tenor kick, a hybrid snare, and a table pad from them. My original 2 quad pads took about 8 months, but i knew that going into it. Everything else i received within 1 month of purchase
@Ely Marching My xymox pad has been pretty good. I've had it for a year or so, however I can't say anything about buying it because my brother gave it to me. I almost did buy my own xymox pad once, thank god my friend at the time saved me from buying it lol
Yup. Threw my Xymox in the trash!!!
The man himself,
wow
@@yuzuruizumieggy lol
Let’s gooooo😂
I prefer off world invader
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
fun fact: i ordered a drumslinger summer before my 7th grade year (2018). it was delivered without notice late freshman year (2021) i waited 3 whole years for it
The Guardians man himself
oh. i ordered one in july this year and got it within a month
I ordered mine in 2018 and never got it
Drumslingers been doing well lately, I got my pad in a week, and so did my 3 buddies that ordered some from the ready to ship page!
However you’re right, they haven’t been great in the past lmao
Really? I’m curious how they’ve handled past orders, I’ve heard a lot of complaints of never receiving pads, but it has been a bit since I’ve seen much from them.
@@alexelymusic yeah I’ve heard a lot of complaints too! But Mine and a bunch of my friends shipped really quickly
@@alexelymusic I ordered mine around December of 2021, and my friends got theirs within the last couple weeks, so maybe they’re starting to do better🤷🏼♂️
@@DavisJay Bigger question here is, how’s their customer service?
@@mrnicknick02 actually good, I emailed them when my estimated delivery was and they were actually polite about it
I've had an Invader v3 for awhile. I actually think it is the best pad I've ever owned and really wish they existed when I was in high school. However, the older I get the more I stray away from high tension. I find myself placing rags on the pad to lower the volume and tension quite often. I prefer that feel much more and am probably going to look into the quieter rubbery pads such as the Vater or Vic Firth Stock Pad.
Great video! Very informative. We are curious how are pads would be ranked.
Never tried one but I’ve heard great things!
@@alexelymusic Can you make a video ranking different companies of snare drums (Pearl, Yamaha, Dynasty, etc.)? I think that would be a great video for high school drumline instructors like me who are looking to upgrade equipment.
Disclaimer:
This is all based off my experience. If you disagree or have something to share (or correct), feel free to leave a comment to change my mind! I’m very open to discussion about everything I spoke about.
To those requesting more reviews:
I do not have the means to purchase every pad, I just have played on quite a bit of pads throughout the years. Donations are welcome though ;)
I, as a high school freshman, placed my order exactly three years ago on March, 25th in 2019. I am still waiting to this day as a senior in high school :)
Ordered one my 8th grade year in February, I am now only a ,on the away from being a junior. I don’t think it’s ever gonna come in lol
I know someone who ordered one in 2015 and still hasn't gotten it.
Drumslinger or xymox?
@@toastedravioli2557 xymox
I bought a Xymox tenor pad in August of 2018 (the end of my freshman year of high school) already knowing that the company had a notoriety of long shipping times and poor customer service, but I took the risk anyways. When I told my dad like 3 weeks in that nothing shipped he told me to keep emailing them to which I did. I sounded more frustrated with every email I sent; luckily I got a response to every email. The pad arrived in January of 2019, so I only had to wait about 6.5 months for the pad to arrive. I know for sure I wouldn't have gotten the pad if I didn't keep nagging and I'm lucky it only took that long knowing other people's stories with the company.
It feels like I bought it at the end of a point where they actually shipped pads. I've seen more videos talking about Xymox in the past two years than I had for the 4 years prior when I started getting into marching percussion which was around 2016. It also felt like there was a lot more complaints about not receiving any pads where most of the things I saw were people's orders arriving after a year+. Either the company somehow got worse or more marching percussion content creators had surfaced on the platform warning viewers not to buy from them. I personally think the latter, but it could be a mix of both because I remember hearing somewhere that the company went under or something so the chances of getting a pad now is quite literally 0% up from the solid like 17% chance before the company supposedly went under.
Update on Xymox, they got their shit together this year and I got mine in around 2 months. And my friend got his tenor pad in around 3 months. They still don't ship within the listed time but it is much better than they have been.
A few pads here and there doesn’t make up for the thousands of orders that were never shipped.
Drumslinger. Bill Olsen provides great customer service and stands behind his
products. I own two- the 13 inch Corps Pad and the 12 inch Marcher Pad. Both
were delivered in only three weeks. The pads are a work of art.
I wish my experience with Drumslinger was good, though it was about 4 years ago. I can agree with the rest though!
@@DennisJohnsonDrummer Unfortunate that my experience was so much different, though it has been a few years. Maybe one of these days I will give 'em another shot.
I absolutely love my Prologix vortex tenor pad, it was great for preparing for past auditions best pad I've ever owned. It's also great for writing to make sure everything feels right. I want to try the tenor Ram Pad but if I'm gonna shell out that kind of cash I might as well have just played on my drums.
Xymox doesn’t even deserve to be in any kind of quality test or anything else other than a court room honestly. Don’t give them this kind of press even if it is just clickbait
After watching I do feel better given what you said. Thanks 😊
totally agree
My friend got an rcp active snare pad and it feels really nice
Drumslinger pads had supply issues because the ONE GUY who was making them lost a relative, and then got diagnosed with a life-threatening illness. There was no scam involved.
As of 2024, he is making pads again, has filled nearly all the backorders and is now delivering new pads with a roughly 6-8 week turnaround. Remember, it’s ONE GUY making these pads one at a time. So give him some grace and a little respect for what he had to climb out of to get back to it.
haha, these xymox edits are hilarious, I ordered in 2019 and hasn't arrived yet :0
Have you tried the Brash drums pad and if so what are your thoughts? Also I can agree with the new realfeel. It feels pretty good but damn the pad hands are insane.
I’ve never heard of them, but I’d willing to try them!
I just ordered a xymox hybrid snare pad without knowing about their crappy processing. They said Im getting it before next week. If I dont should I file a complaint/appeal or demand a refund? How should I go about it. I am not about to let my money slip away like that😂
@@AltBoi-l4x If you used a credit card or debit card, do a chargeback with your bank. Their website says no refunds so I doubt Xymox themselves will do anything.
IMO the prologix green should be ranked above evans rf. It feels way better than the evans rf. At first I thought that green logix was an ordinary feeling pad because that's what they say in their website. But man when I played on it during the drumline workshop event here in the Philippines. I was surprised. It feels fantastic, and quiet❤
My dad managed to find the yellow real feel at like a savers for $2 and it feels great
So, with ram pad, the smaller pads have to be curved to feel like a drum with the nylon heads, said by the owner. But the bigger 12 inch one does not have that curve on it, and it also comes with a carrier mount. I'll have to find the video again to link it.
I cut the black rubber side off my vic firth double sided pad.wasnt easy but it helped the feel and tone of it alot
I just own a HUN-U 12 "U-12" marching snare pad few months ago and it sounds amazing. I used that a lot it's basically a Japanese version of RCP idk if they still exist. I ordered off from Amazon I don't have no issues about it (not really) but other than that it's awesome. I'm still thinking wanna get a RCP marching snare pad for a backup I'll see how's my money going. 💜👍👍👍
i have the M-12 version and i just love how they sound. feel great too play on too
Yeah I agree with you on that my friend
I’ve heard the term “pad hands” a lot. What does it mean?
Essentially when you play on a pad, you get used to how it feels, such as the rebound, the stickiness, the stick vibrations, etc. When you then play on a drum, you are not used to the way a drum feels and cannot play as well or you do not feel as comfortable. The best way to avoid it is by playing on a drum as much as possible and finding a pad that feels as close to a drum as possible.
Hanflag green labels for a lot of companies. I own a Hanflag pad but got a RCP laminate, it has a ton of rebound but feels more realistic with a laminate.
I would only recommend a Hanflag(Hun) for private use, as it is loud & resembles a real snare too much to practice & warm up
The black innovative pad is the same exact pad as the offworld outlander, innovative percussion pays offworld for rights to the pad so they can slap their logo on in, if you have both side by side you can see the have the same serial number
Good to know
Can you review Beetle Percussion (specifically the Carlos Botello pad)?
Rampad Pro series too
The pro is the same as the original I believe, just a different head. Unfortunately never got around to picking up any Beetle pads.
my first pad was the hq real feel oh my God is it still one of the best ive ever had. started drumming in 2004 and the only other pads that have come close is the offworld invader v3 and the original vic firth slimpad. im hoping the new slim pad is back to the og but hail to the king hq real feel
Hot take, xymox isn’t terrible, atleast from my experience lol. My first xymox pad was second hand so I got it immediately so that wasn’t bad. I then ordered a tenor pad believing that I wouldn’t get it for a while but it actually showed up in about 2 weeks. I thought it may be a fluke and ordered a hybrid snare and sure enough about 3 weeks later it arrived. Most recently the reserve snare pads were 50% off so I ordered one for my dad (who is also a drummer) for Christmas, and it got here in just over a week. I’ve had a good experience with them but I know a lot of people haven’t.
Must be one of the lucky ones. I still haven’t received my hybrid snare, nor has really anyone else. Most of the Xymox pads I have seen or used are falling apart from normal usage.
Same, I have first Gen from them and one of my friends has a second Gen drum pad from them. Those are really good
i have the outlander 12 inch and i want a new pad
I ordered a xymox tenor pad September of my freshman year hs. Had to email them constantly and didn't get it for 9 months, I had to threaten to sue those mfers before getting my pad finally.
Very true about xymox, it happened the same thing with my purchase, they never shipped my order
I think i might have a drumslinger pad
When i bought my bellset i got a pair of mallets, sticks, and a drum pad as well and it has an actual head and looks very similar to the picture
DrumSlinger creates custom pads by order. You might have a similar pad from a different brand.
Ely, I know drum slinger has done poorly in the past. I have talked with the owner bill Olson he had medical problems which stopped him from making orders but now he's back in business and has fulfilled every order since.
I still don’t trust it, especially since they haven’t fulfilled older orders still.
OG slimpad and new slimpad definitely feel different. My room mate has OG, I have the new one. I've played them side by side. og is bouncier, almost unnaturally so, but fun as fuck to play on. minor thing I noted: during your review of the slim pad, you said you like the old slim pad more; then when you reviewed the old slim pad, you said you'd never actually played one!
You caught me there 😳 I just like the look of it more.
RCP pads are actually really good in my opinion, i would give them s or high a tier
A little late to the video but I've emailed xymox over 20 times over multiple email accounts just to get bot replies after my first email actually was responded to but I ended up getting ghosted. Still haven't got the pad almost 3 years later, and I never will. Sucks cause their pads I have played on have been nice. Invader v3 all the way
you should review the carlos botello pad and the bus pad both from beetle perc
Owned a bus pad in the past. I wasn't a huge fan, the rubber was soft and didn't provide a good amount of rebound, and the pad liked to fall off my lap.
I own 2-Rampads symphonic & marching pads love them 😁
when you got the zymox pad did you like it
It wasn’t my favorite. The rim felt really cheap and the laminate felt very plastic like.
Do the invaders feel like the shuttle?
I've never used it so I can't speak for it, however I'd imagine the shuttle feels closer to a Outlander since the underlying surface is thinner than an Invader.
@@alexelymusic it’s more articulate than the 9in but idk about 11in
Yup never got my drumslinger
You missed the Barney real feel 🥺
B tier 🤘
so pissed that i missed it and now i cant find it anywhere
@@mang058 i swear i played on my homies once at a scvc camp and omg it felt so much better than my reelfeel it felt bouncier, high key sad i won’t find one anywhere 😥
Hey man i dont know if youve saw them but rudimetal drummers make great pads if you can get pne i would the take a few weeks to ship BUT they have great customer service and the pads feel amazing there a s plus in my opion
I considered them a while back, but the shipping to the U.S. almost doubles the price of the pad.
Xymox has taken a lot of money from customers. Waiting four years for my pad
Yooo! You had a pad making video iirc? Do you mind making it public (that’s if it exists 😂). It’s been 4 years since I’ve ordered my Xymox.
You might have the wrong guy 😅
I've actually never had issues with xymox. I know everyone does. Ive bought 2 quad pads, a tenor kick, a hybrid snare, and a table pad from them. My original 2 quad pads took about 8 months, but i knew that going into it. Everything else i received within 1 month of purchase
Maybe you should play the lottery
Drumeo P4?
I don’t know many people that have used this and don’t believe it’s made for marching drums.
@@alexelymusicWhat would you rate P4 as? B? C?
I'm pretty sure the owner of drumslinger got deathly sick but its no excuse that they still took orders.
The stock pad is my literal child how dare you.
🤷♀
reflexx?
Not really meant for marching percussion
You forgot the remo practice pad
The tunable pad?
@@alexelymusic god tier obviously
@@alexelymusicyes
Perfect vid
it sucks that xymox pads feel great. However, there's no point in buying something that is good quality if you'll never get it.
I wouldn’t say they’re good quality. They feel fine, but they have a history of wearing quickly, especially the rims.
@Ely Marching My xymox pad has been pretty good. I've had it for a year or so, however I can't say anything about buying it because my brother gave it to me. I almost did buy my own xymox pad once, thank god my friend at the time saved me from buying it lol
My battery tech actually has a tan real feel! Planning a heist on it 😈 (jk)
(But I have thought about it)
happy 5 year anniversary of you getting scammed
😢😢😢😢😢
SMH..😔😔😔
ram pad is goated
Vater OP
I liked the s-hoop 😢
xymox is trash quality. Offworld invader is the best pad
I ordered a xymox pad my freshman year of highschool… I’m a sophomore in college and still haven’t received it 🥲
The pain is real