Michael Jordan Running Point Guard?!?
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Michael Jordan running the point guard position in 1989.
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The question people don't seem to ask when MJ moved to point guard is why did his rebound numbers go up? You expect his assist numbers to increase but not rebounds. According to MJ, he said he tried to get more rebounds so he could start the fast break (as he knew that's what guys like Magic would do). And he had to do this against taller players. That lets me know that MJ could have averaged more rbds & asts throughout his career but he let other guys play their roles instead.
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I think the better question is, if his rebounds and assists went up so much, why did his points not decrease ? They remained relatively the same in the switch from shooting guard to point guard that season. Proof that stats aren't everything.
Also, point guards are in better position to grab rebounds due to their central placement on the court vs a 2 guard that plays on one side.
Yes exactly
You broke this down perfectly bro! They’re also selective about stats. Rarely discussed is FG% or turnovers. They act like it’s all about points, assists, and rebounds. Defense has been a non factor for years as it is.
The numbers are 7 consecutive triple doubles, 10 triple doubles in 11 games and 15 triple doubles in the season. That was done in a months time, since Doug Collins moved him to point in March and the regular season ends in April!!!
Talk about a super point guard! 🐐
Skills and winning, or "Winning skills" is what matters. And no one did it better or more spectacular than Michael Jordan on both sides of the ball. There is no Excel Spreadsheet needed to tell me what my eyes already know. "BU but bu butt...those aren't facts bluh bluh". If paperwork was all you needed, talent scouts wouldn't even exist.
Yup. LeBron, Harden or Westbrook wouldn't be getting so many triple doubles in the triangle offense. That stretch where MJ played point proves he would've averaged a triple double while still winning the scoring the title, easily. I honestly think the triangle offense robbed us of seeing MJs true potential.
People think he's not an all around player like Pippen or LeBron, but he obviously was, he just didn't have to be.
I would say it robbed us of seeing Jordan's peak individual stats. But if he continued playing like that, he wouldn't have won 6 rings.
he would be more of a lebron system. let us thank phil and winter for making mj more of a team player.
The way MJ would drive to the paint, get in the air, hang there for a minute sensing the open man, and serve those no looks to Grant, Pippen or Cartwright was magical.
The come from behind blocks, the pickpockets, The insane speed he would close off a passing lane leading to a fast break, his putbacks, his palm fakes, his line drive quarterback passes. And don't get me started on everything he could do on offense, like his insane layup package, hang time, triple / quadruple clutch in the air, quickest first step, incredible posters, getting in the air absorbing contact and finishing the and 1, low post footwork, one dribble pull up, fade away in the post, and overall mid-range game. Everything I mentioned, he did as well as anybody ever! And most of it, he did better than anybody ever 🐐
He was the best all-around player in the history of the NBA and it's not even close!
This looks like the best I’ve ever seen
I really appreciate your insight, thoughtfulness, and logic when it comes to matters of Michael Jordan. I watched his entire career from college freshman at UNC to his final time with the Wizards. During his stint at the point, he was simply amazing!! I used to tell my brother that the Bulls should move him to the one because his numbers would increase immediately. Jordan was not just good but great at every facet of basketball! His game quite literally had no weaknesses! I'm a soon to be 65 year old black man who has played, watched, and studied basketball for over four decades. I've witnessed all of the greats starting in the late 1960s to present day, and I have NEVER seen anyone as great or better than Jordan! PERIOD!!!!!❤😊
My opinion on why they don’t release his games or at least all of them is because they know the truth will come out about who the hell the GOAT is and has been. They can’t sell this lebron crap anymore. At the end of the day the NBA is a business. They’re not gonna screw up their bottom line for anything.
Lol
Yeah Mike was an offense initiator when they ran the offense that basically has no point guard, the triangle. If he played the way they play now he would play like Lukka etc he would have been insane, especially in the modern nba. Mike the best man, he averaged a triple double senior year highschool, he can do the PG really well and SG also so, for winning they went the triangle and they won. Mike could be coached and played chess out there.
As much as I love Jordan, the 80's were his most spectacular years, he is the Greatest show on Earth and we will never see in our lifetimes another like him in those days.
If this Michael Jordan was playing now, he would be everyone’s favorite player and Lebron would be an after thought.
Joke comment..
@@LL-rc2ol how so? When kids wear air Jordan’s and even Lebron’s kids….
@@johnny6610 because theres other superstars people cared about, i dont think you realize the fact that people hated mj even when he was the greatest, just beacause everyone wears one persons shoes dosent mean every other superstar becomes irrelevant lmao
@@LL-rc2ol In basketball? Imagine be made fun of for wearing other sneakers in this day of age? When growing up back then, we had no idea of greatness happening in real time. You don’t get it lol…I have kids and I see how things are now. People are buying up Jordan’s by Travis Scott lol a mediocre rapper. It’s not even his shoe…but go off lol
@@johnny6610 what are u even talking about 💀
As what Isiah said during that time, he's gonna go over Magic as the best pg ever. Then other players said, Doc Rivers was one of them, that it would seem unfair because of the numbers he could put up without him running the offense and not holding the ball all the time, how much more if he played pg. Doc Rivers and co were right. The numbers MJ had was record breaking to say the least.
LBJ's minions? Let them be. They don't know better but veterans of the game even chose Kobe over that stat padding crybaby.
LeBron hater alert
Facts over stats...awesome breakdown!
Lol I just said all this. When you can break things down like this you’re a student of the game not a fan boy.
The way MJ would drive to the paint, get in the air, hang there for a minute sensing the open man, and serve those no looks to Grant, Pippen or Cartwright was magical.
The come from behind blocks, the pickpockets, The insane speed he would close off a passing lane leading to a fast break, his putbacks, his palm fakes, his line drive quarterback passes. And don't get me started on everything he could do on offense, like his insane layup package, hang time, triple / quadruple clutch in the air, quickest first step, incredible posters, getting in the air absorbing contact and finishing the and 1, low post footwork, one dribble pull up, fade away in the post, and overall mid-range game. Everything I mentioned, he did as well as anybody ever! And most of it, he did better than anybody ever 🐐
He was the best all-around player in the history of the NBA and it's not even close!
His numbers would have been absurd bro lol ✊🏿
Great breakdown . Jordan was one of the most underrated passers throughout his GOAT'ed career. Stats can tell alot but they dont tell everything.
Been looking for those point guard games or at least full highlights. Hopefully someone puts them up one day.
It seems there isn't much footage available post all-star for the 1989 regular season.
Goat
Stats without CONTEXT don't tell the whole truth.
True.
I just love how MJ scores most points with over 15secs left
I like the point about limited images and old footage that nba controls...I would like to see more footage of Dr J, David Thompson, Wilt Chamberlain, et al...also, most of these sports announcer with their stats as an explanation for every facet of everything make sick with their duplicity ...if you go by stats alone Wilt Chamberlain is hands down the best ever, but he somehow always demonized because of said stats....what a joke!!! Best players ever in no specific order: Jordan, Chamberlain, Jabber, Russel, Magic,
I think if you have Wilt on a list, Bird must be there as well. Also, it was sometime after Wilt’s 100-point game that the NBA started filming EVERY game.
Mike had game within a game
They say lbj played more hof players lol that’s cause more number one guys team up smh. And media want you to think cause a player isn’t a first ballot hof they suck . Not true. Back in those days players had roles these guys do what they want
MJ is the GOAT, your video is absolutely correct! Lebron James is not even close to MJ. The NBA try’s to pump up Lebrons image to keep the league popular but he’s not even in the top 5 in my opinion. The NBA game today is soft because of the rule changes . My point is if Lebron played in the 80’s and 90’s he would of been a good player but no where near being considered close to MJ and his stats would of been much lower.
Completely, Ive been thinking and saying this for years
Spot on bro you got the truth right there
And yup LBJ is not top five in my opinion either
It always irritates me when people say Lebron is a better passer or rebounder..
Na fools.. LBJ is just a more willing passer for assists and for some strange reason always camps out in the lane for more rebounds, like u say, to jump start a fast break..
Jordan averaged a triple double during his time at the point while still averaging 32 a game. I believe he was at point the last 25 or 26 games of the season which is 1/3 of the season which is a good sample size.
If he played point guard full-time Magic would be second best
Great point and argument, excellent to hear, especially about the black cats footwork.
Numbers do not quantify the individual plays MJ made
And that month of triple doubles is ridiculous, if he stayed in the point guard position forget about Lebrons hype as a passer and play maker
A rebounding point god who dunks on your head while dropping triple doubles daily 😝
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Hell yeah dawg you can't argue against that mate - pure goat
Great vid
Curry's passing is like this style MJ.
1:43 is crazy
And still some say that MJ wouldn't be as great if his role was a Facilitator like Pippen and LBJ. Lol. This is the proof that MJ can be a Great or Elite Facilitator like LBJ, Magic, and Pipp. It's just so happens that his role was a Scorer most of his career.
LBJ has more passes but i dont consider him a better passer MJs passing highlights shows things Lebron cant do as good as MJ like his non look passes
As a fan of both mj and bron(I’m assuming that’s who your talking about yes it’s possible to like both) I think you made a great point about a players role. Another great point that stats don’t tell a players whole story, if you really know the game you have to watch the whole games to understand it not highlights and not just box score. I do think it’s tough to compare an entire season to a stretch of 11 games. Lebron was put as the designated PG for the lakers three years ago and didn’t have the scoring numbers but averaged the same numbers of assists and led the team to a title in his 17th season. This 11 game stretch the bulls had a losing record and lost to several teams with losing records.
Great points, and you are correct in pointing out that playing this role was not conducive to WINNING for Mike and those Bulls, which is why it didn’t last and Doug Collins was let go soon thereafter.
I would pay for a sub to MJ's entire game library!!! I would even budget for it if I had to.
I would as well, I hope the NBA makes it available some day.
Did the man say 7 str8 triple doubles?
Great vid! Well said! You know bball.
32 points per game on 52% from the field
8 rebounds per game
8 assists per game
2nd in 1989 NBA MVP race
Ur a Wilt fanboy dude. U guys dont know non about basketball
I know exactly what you’re saying. It’s common sense. I try to explain that sometimes.
if Jordan did this for his career then we'd CLEARLY see he's better than LeBron
😂 🤣 😅 😆 Thinking anybody better than AIR JORDAN...
I’m saying though...
4:04
Someone should bring this to publicly Nick Wright's attention...., soon..
He knows. Trust me, as much has combed through MJs career to look for things to critique, he’s likely well aware of Mike’s greatness and doesn’t actually believe lebron is the goat. He just does his job as an alleged Klutch sports secret agent.
Triple doubles doesn't equal "better" or even a great player....looking at you Russell Westbrook
you see how crap lebron movement compare to michael jordan its disrespectfull to compare him to lebron
Its no diss bro....you can say his name. Lebron James he's STILL on tha G.O.A.T. list without question.
LeBrons still the goat but mj should be pg all his career
👏👏👏👏good video