Thanks alan for the free content of 2 really knowledgable guys. I hope people stop complaining about the rippetoe stuff, when its obviously getting you over your plateaus.
Jakob Mayr exactly. 10 months ago the best advice he was getting was "imagine you're sucking in all the energy from the room as you decend into the squat" like... Uhhhh okay? Now he's getting and giving advice that is specific, based on mechanical efficiency, and is literally increasing his numbers (an objective measure) and people freak out and call it dogma. Smh
I've found smartly designed, linear block program will yield more consistent and repeatable results than TM. Intermediates hitting x5@9+ every week is a good way to make progress for 4-6 weeks before you fall off the recovery cliff and have to either change the ID rep range, reset VD weights, reset ID and VD, or all of the above and spend another 4-6 weeks working back up. At which point, a smartly designed program with deloads at appropriate intervals will lead to continued progress by managing fatigue and preventing the need to deload and back-track for 4-6 weeks. TL:DR: if you have to reset on TM, just move onto block based programming.
Not the Bridge. From what I understand the Bridge is for those who have finished an aggressive LP and are looking to transition to intermediate programming. I'd say that 5/3/1 by Wendler is the gold standard for true intermediate programming.
As far as anti-depressants are concerned, I would believe that high cortisol levels would affect your training as well (if someone is off the medication and needs it, like myself). As someone that actually DID stop anti-depressants and anti-anxiety, please learn from my mistake - don’t!
I gotta disagree with Jordan about the Texas method. Some of the best progress I have ever made was with the Texas method. Of course it requires modification. Rip even says in his books that the intermediate will need the most variety he will ever require in his lifting career. If you run the stock program you will legit do like 18 sets a week. Other then the novice stage it's rare for a person to run a program verbatim.
The funniest thing is Jordan himself wrote one of the most popular articles on the Texas Method: 12 Ways to skin the Texas Method. And he opens it by saying the Texas Method is a great template and he uses it himself. Seems like he had a complete change of opinion now.
@@Alex-lu3pn Well, to be fair, that article was written a couple years before this video, which is plenty of time for someone to learn and adjust their opinions on a problem. In fact, fundamental disagreements on programming between the BBM crew and Rip were what led to the split to begin with. I wager Jordan and Austin had learned things in those couple years that made them significantly re-evaluate TM and similar programs and decide they weren't that great. He's also said since then that almost none of the SS coaches were even using TM as written, and were commonly making significant modifications.
This is really great. The only thing is that I wonder if some people are going to run away with the idea that testosterone levels don't matter. Like they said, the people who trained more had more valleys where testosterone was low temporarily, but in general, I'm pretty sure testosterone levels matter.
@@VegetoStevieD let me word that a little differently. They do matter to a degree. The question was do antidepressants lower testosterone and if they do, would they affect my training? The answer is no, not really. Antidepressants have very little affect on testosterone levels. But this is my answer. The reference range exists for a reason. Most people will fall slightly below average or slightly above. With VERY few being at the bottom. If your testosterone levels are 150 ng/dl, that’s different. That’s a very bad case of hypogonadism. But if your levels are in the reference range, the way you feel and perform definitely won’t change that much, if any.
Ok, what about when you run the Texas on one week, 1RM squat goes up, 5RM bench is a PR, but then you feel like shit a don't lift for a week? Is this gainz? Kidding.
I have been using starting strength for about two weeks now, and it's been working great, the only issue is im in college and our gym doesn't allow Olympic lifts, like the clean. Can I replace it with another movement? Or am I just fucked?
Up until very recently I was running Stronglifts 5x5 which is a very close cousin of SS. Similar structure but replace cleans with 5x5 Barbell Rows (The variant where your torso is parallel to the ground, not Pendlay rows), and swap Deadlifts and Barbell Rows around (i.e Workout A is 5x5 Squat, 5x5 Bench, 5x5 Rows and Workout B is 5x5 Squat, 5x5 Overhead Press and 1x5 Deadlift). Would also recommend adding some assistance work and some arm isolation to avoid the dreaded T-Rex syndrome
So Jordan (and Austin since he didn't disagree) who is a starting strength coach does not think Rips Texas Method is a decent program... Does anyone know a video (or other medium) where they discuss this in depth?
Texas method squat got me a 451 squat in a meet. Before the cycle I was squatting 405 for a shaky single. You can use the Texas method and modify it you don’t have to fallow it completely I did 5x5 on bench and ran the Texas method for squat. You can’t always fallow what every one day else does
1. For those of you curious about why a starting strength coach would not recommend a program in one of Ripps books. ruclips.net/video/ZInJXUPnsZU/видео.html - Ask Ripp #38. He doesn't recommend it either (1 minute in). Don't get all dramatic. 2. Stop bitching about the S.S. approach being taught here. It is free content and this guy can do whatever the fuck he wants. He can start preaching Scientology bullshit if he wants. 3. Thanks for sharing the newly acquired knowledge that comes from your new experiences!
xplode there are a lot of ways to increase your lifts. He could have increased his lifts by just simply doing more volume. He already talked about how his previous program lacked volume
Thanks alan for the free content of 2 really knowledgable guys. I hope people stop complaining about the rippetoe stuff, when its obviously getting you over your plateaus.
Jakob Mayr exactly. 10 months ago the best advice he was getting was "imagine you're sucking in all the energy from the room as you decend into the squat" like... Uhhhh okay?
Now he's getting and giving advice that is specific, based on mechanical efficiency, and is literally increasing his numbers (an objective measure) and people freak out and call it dogma. Smh
Knowledge is power! I always learn a lot from this channel!
Power corrupts
POWAAAHHH!!! UNLIMITED POWAAAHHH!!!
Pure gold. Thank you for making these available.
When you realize a year after this vid was filmed in your gym (Know that board!), but 3 weeks before you joined.
😭😭😭
I've found smartly designed, linear block program will yield more consistent and repeatable results than TM. Intermediates hitting x5@9+ every week is a good way to make progress for 4-6 weeks before you fall off the recovery cliff and have to either change the ID rep range, reset VD weights, reset ID and VD, or all of the above and spend another 4-6 weeks working back up. At which point, a smartly designed program with deloads at appropriate intervals will lead to continued progress by managing fatigue and preventing the need to deload and back-track for 4-6 weeks.
TL:DR: if you have to reset on TM, just move onto block based programming.
Obviously you're not entirely educated on how the TM is supposed to be properly implemented. Over time you are supposed to lower the reps on your ID.
Rich Pauley that’s worked well for me. When RPE hits 9+ on 5’s, I add 5 lbs the next week but drop to 4’s, then 3’s to eventually a 1RM
My TEST went from 433 to 597 aftr six weeks on TRT and it made a big difference.
Yes, taking testosterone increases your testosterone.
Daytona Says What?! Shocking
You got TRT at 433? I just tested at 182 and got denied.
Dude @ 0:36 had to sell the good shirts off his back to pay for this quality seminar! 😁
Rip's henchman shitting on Rip's program? Inconceivable!
Jordan and Austin always dropping fire mixtapes
if not texas method...then what for intermediates?
David Van Legendary thx was looking for this :-)
Dave thx for the question :-) was mine too ;-)
Crossfit
Not the Bridge. From what I understand the Bridge is for those who have finished an aggressive LP and are looking to transition to intermediate programming.
I'd say that 5/3/1 by Wendler is the gold standard for true intermediate programming.
@@JeewanthaBandara the good doctors would strongly disagree with you on 5/3/1
As far as anti-depressants are concerned, I would believe that high cortisol levels would affect your training as well (if someone is off the medication and needs it, like myself).
As someone that actually DID stop anti-depressants and anti-anxiety, please learn from my mistake - don’t!
If not texas method which should i follow madcow?
Shame these guys only in the USA would be good to see them in the UK
What would be a good intermediate program then?
YES more of this! Thank you :D god I loved the first part
I was out of town and so wanted to be at this seminar.
you shouls modified every method for you no matter what you doing if you want best results
I gotta disagree with Jordan about the Texas method. Some of the best progress I have ever made was with the Texas method. Of course it requires modification. Rip even says in his books that the intermediate will need the most variety he will ever require in his lifting career. If you run the stock program you will legit do like 18 sets a week. Other then the novice stage it's rare for a person to run a program verbatim.
The funniest thing is Jordan himself wrote one of the most popular articles on the Texas Method: 12 Ways to skin the Texas Method.
And he opens it by saying the Texas Method is a great template and he uses it himself.
Seems like he had a complete change of opinion now.
@@Alex-lu3pn Well, to be fair, that article was written a couple years before this video, which is plenty of time for someone to learn and adjust their opinions on a problem. In fact, fundamental disagreements on programming between the BBM crew and Rip were what led to the split to begin with. I wager Jordan and Austin had learned things in those couple years that made them significantly re-evaluate TM and similar programs and decide they weren't that great. He's also said since then that almost none of the SS coaches were even using TM as written, and were commonly making significant modifications.
Awesome content, thanks for sharing
17:50 - Can someone reply with what the "golf" certification he mentioned is? I've replayed it several times and I just can't make it out.
Titleist I believe it's spelled, it's a golfing brand
I am Pistachio thank you
Not a fan of that intro music. Seems more fitting for a commercial for a self driving car than for a video about lifting. MORE BOLT THROWER, ALAN!
You mentioned articles on barbell medicine website for training when in a fatloss phase. What articles are these please
Where can I hear more about Dr. Baraki's ideas on pain psychology?
Zera Holladay Google "austin baraki pain science" first article. Really good stuff.
Did Jordan say “out of the book” with a rip impression
Great intro Allan!
On suggested certifications: what's your opinion on the Kubuki Strength certification?
Awesome!
This is really great. The only thing is that I wonder if some people are going to run away with the idea that testosterone levels don't matter. Like they said, the people who trained more had more valleys where testosterone was low temporarily, but in general, I'm pretty sure testosterone levels matter.
We never said Testosterone levels don't matter. We said that fluctuations within the physiologic range have little impact on real-world outcomes.
They really don’t matter that much.
@@Un1t276 In what way?
@@VegetoStevieD let me word that a little differently. They do matter to a degree. The question was do antidepressants lower testosterone and if they do, would they affect my training? The answer is no, not really. Antidepressants have very little affect on testosterone levels.
But this is my answer. The reference range exists for a reason. Most people will fall slightly below average or slightly above. With VERY few being at the bottom. If your testosterone levels are 150 ng/dl, that’s different. That’s a very bad case of hypogonadism. But if your levels are in the reference range, the way you feel and perform definitely won’t change that much, if any.
@@Un1t276 I had to ask, because this comment chain is from 4 years ago.
Excuse me Sir can you tell me what the intro song is?
Ok, what about when you run the Texas on one week, 1RM squat goes up, 5RM bench is a PR, but then you feel like shit a don't lift for a week? Is this gainz?
Kidding.
Made it into the intro! ;-P
I have been using starting strength for about two weeks now, and it's been working great, the only issue is im in college and our gym doesn't allow Olympic lifts, like the clean. Can I replace it with another movement? Or am I just fucked?
Up until very recently I was running Stronglifts 5x5 which is a very close cousin of SS. Similar structure but replace cleans with 5x5 Barbell Rows (The variant where your torso is parallel to the ground, not Pendlay rows), and swap Deadlifts and Barbell Rows around (i.e Workout A is 5x5 Squat, 5x5 Bench, 5x5 Rows and Workout B is 5x5 Squat, 5x5 Overhead Press and 1x5 Deadlift). Would also recommend adding some assistance work and some arm isolation to avoid the dreaded T-Rex syndrome
I love the info, for sure. But boy did he get triggered by the crossfit squat lolol. Cant blame him but i laughed.
wait what part?
David Van Legendary starts around 18:40
So Jordan (and Austin since he didn't disagree) who is a starting strength coach does not think Rips Texas Method is a decent program... Does anyone know a video (or other medium) where they discuss this in depth?
Nathan27inch Jordan wrote a petty long article and it's in the SS site. Into the great wide open, I think.
YAS
did austin release his stuff on tendinopathy.
Why did you put Gimli on your shirt?
My brother in law does the Texas Method. He has made really good gains with all three lifts.
Will they ever do international seminars? (For example, coming to Australia)
Yep!
Next time bring Austin a couch, look at how he sits. I am not judging, I sit like that all the time. lol
That crossfit example.. lol :D
I love you guyzZz
Texas method squat got me a 451 squat in a meet. Before the cycle I was squatting 405 for a shaky single. You can use the Texas method and modify it you don’t have to fallow it completely I did 5x5 on bench and ran the Texas method for squat. You can’t always fallow what every one day else does
"thats wrong crossfit!" 😂😂😂
when people say jordan is small but there small themselves like stop caring about how big they are
I wonder if the docs are natch
0:12 confirmed Ethan Klein in the front row.
I see Alan Thrall
Does Jordan really need that much ball space?
David Mitchell Please tell me you're not from BuzzFeed!
Nope...don't even know what is is lol
1. For those of you curious about why a starting strength coach would not recommend a program in one of Ripps books.
ruclips.net/video/ZInJXUPnsZU/видео.html - Ask Ripp #38. He doesn't recommend it either (1 minute in). Don't get all dramatic.
2. Stop bitching about the S.S. approach being taught here. It is free content and this guy can do whatever the fuck he wants. He can start preaching Scientology bullshit if he wants.
3. Thanks for sharing the newly acquired knowledge that comes from your new experiences!
Das my gym haha ❤️🤗
These are some of the best training videos on the internet. Hope for more of them soon!
Also, fuck crossfit.
19:15
Lol -18:18 - Anyone wanna bash on crossfit for a while?
lol "flesh"
hes big just not 250 or more
Uhhh, I wanna see Alan Thral videos. Their info is online.
00:37 dafuq
Indoctrinated.
Educated
I might as well subscribe to starting strenght. It´s the same shit anyway.
Why don't you complain some more about free content. That will help.
youre complaining about quality free info?....................how grateful.
I agree with you. This channel has gone downhill since Allan become brainwashed by the starting strength dogma.
he also increased his lifts.
xplode there are a lot of ways to increase your lifts. He could have increased his lifts by just simply doing more volume. He already talked about how his previous program lacked volume
First thing I notice is the horrible sitting posture of the guy on the right...
J Smith Fortunately, sitting posture is completely irrelevant.
I disagree. Sitting posture is important.
Ok.