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Martin. As you know I LOVE Stainless Steel.... Old Tech sometimes is the best Tech. Great video as usual. Love the confusion you convey when the timings are done. I'm away out tomorrow to brew a cuppa. looking forward to it. And yes, Stanley is coming with me....
A bit late to the party with this one, but after buying my first titanium pots, I did some comparisons myself. Like you, I found that my stainless steel pots were actually quicker to boil. I think that unless I really need to lose weight in my camping kit, I'll be sticking with the stainless steel, although I have made up an ultra-lightweight brewkit from my titanium gear which I take on days out. (stove, pot, mug, spork, windshield, fuel, lighter, a couple of drinks and a clean up kit all weighing in at about 350g)
Hi Ivan. That's where the battle comes in doesn't it. Weight versus efficiency. I adore my Stanley stoves but I find myself going for the lighter pots when the time comes. Maybe having a full pack changes my thought pattern.
Did the pot holders on the stove not line up with the slots on the Fire maple pot? It would have moved the pot base closer to the flame if they had and may have changed the boil time.
Hi Martin, I use a Fire Maple heat exchanger (FMC-XK6 Aluminum) pot similar to your one in conjunction with a Pocket Rocket 2. Based on my Scouting days, we used Trangias. Whilst I appreciate they are good in the sense of a complete cook set, I just cannot bring myself to use the burners now. The thoughts of carrying meths and the mess puts me off. What does cause me some little concerns is the risk of contamination from the anodized aluminium but Fire Maple seem a reputable manufacturer. Take care Adrian
Good test! I've got the stanley you have there and people are always surprised how fast I boil water. Was planning to switch to a titanium pot this year to save weight, but now you've got me double thinking that...might just stick with my stanley 🤣.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah it has been mentioned that the heat exchange pot should have been lower to the flame so that's something I'm looking at. Another stove rabbit hole I'll go down 🤣
I too am forever tinkering, keep experimenting, and thanks for sharing. More material should = added heat required, but SS retains heat, Ti does not conduct heat, it transfers it, which will include the surrounding air of course, hence it cools quicker, so looses heat whilst boiling water, so fuel efficiency will probably be down. Compromises to make?
Maybe a test using the most efficient burner, pot, with caldera cone and also most efficient alcohol fuel....or maybe just use what ya got. Thanks for an enjoyable video.
Martín, thanks for your great videos, please keep on posting. In the 'Ultimate Alcohol Stove Battle' you used a 'BRS Infrared Heating Cover' to give stoves the same space for the test. Does this gizmo help transfer heat to a larger part of a cup / pan and stop burning at the centre? And in a tent heating mode, does it kick out a lot of heat? I want to move to cooking outdoors rather than using dehydrated meals, and the flames from my MSR deluxe are very concentrated, great for heating up water, but could it give better results cooking with the BRS add on?
Hi Martin, really interesting video with very surprising results! 😮 I, like you, believed that heat exchangers were the best and bought the fire maple one because of that! Oh well, still a good pot nonetheless. I also bought the Goshawk stove after watching your first class review of it, love it, so many thanks for that. Mind you wasted quite a while searching for the "Goosehawk stove!" 😉😂
I got one before Xmas and the battery longevity was the big plus for me, especially for longer hiking trips.Also got the backpack tether, a great piece of kit.
It's all about the girth! 😂 Interesting results but ultimately only a minute difference between the fastest and slowest. I noticed your Firemaple has slits in the exchanger ring. Are these for gas stove arms to fit in and bring the stove head closer to the pot base? There's another video: are boil times affected by the distance of a gas stove to the pot base and does it make a difference then if you have an exchanger or not? Also how good are exchangers in windy conditions versus more traditional pots? 👍
Well pal. I must check that out man. I saw the slits but didn't take notice. Will check it out. Brilliant idea with the fire pit distance. It really makes a difference but what is the right height? That's one video added to the list. Cheers man. I have a titanium JETBOIL stash heat exchange. Will try that out. Pain to edit but great to film. Have a few more recordings done and editing as we speak. Hope all is well man.
👍👍👍 .. a nice comparison 😊. 'Boil Times' .. after 74 Summers, no longer the Alpha / Omega .. 'efficiency' being now more important to me (that's why I like my Trangia and it's adjustable 'snuff ring'). My Pots / Mugs / Cookware are of Stainless Steel and Aluminium. Mainly because some I have had a very long time, are paid for and my pockets are not deep enough for Titanium. 'GearSceptic' on You Tube has done some interesting and 'Myth / Mantra-Busting' Testing on 'Boil Times', 'Efficiency' and more. Well worth a watch. My first ever Alcohol Burner was a 'White Box Stove'. Got it many years ago. Lightweight, does not need a pot stand and it puts out a flame that'll equal that of Krakatoa. Better suited to larger diameter pots though. It's quite a thirsty little beast but still in use .. residing in my Aluminium Trangia-Clone Kettle. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Hey Thomas. Appreciate the comment Sir. Thanks. The Trangia hands down is an winner. So so well built. I will check that channel as well thanks. I wonder if the titanium out there is even titanium or a mixed grade. Have a few more comparisons on the way. My back yard hobby 🤣 my wife thinks I'm cracked
Interesting results! To my mind the heat exchange should also act as a wind defender so like @snowcelt I'd be interested in an outdoor test. Anyway I think you've officially earned #supergeek status now 😂
hi, I enjoyed the video, i did a recent experiment like this here: ruclips.net/video/FF-ZjjlD8UQ/видео.html I found what made the biggest difference to the fire maple was the distance away from the flame. i suggest you repeat it with the burner the same distance from the pot base, the heat exchange pot then should be ahead, it was for me. Cheers, Dave
🥾🥾If you would like to help me out, hit the Like button and share the video with a friend.
Hopefully might see you on the trail some day. Until then, thanks for adventuring with me.
Cheers, Martin ⛺🥾🏔
Martin. As you know I LOVE Stainless Steel.... Old Tech sometimes is the best Tech. Great video as usual. Love the confusion you convey when the timings are done. I'm away out tomorrow to brew a cuppa. looking forward to it. And yes, Stanley is coming with me....
8:19 Per the US manufacturers specs the Jetboil Stash pot and heat exchanger are aluminum. Only the stove head is titanium despite the price.
@@HikerDoc good to know thanks. 👍
A bit late to the party with this one, but after buying my first titanium pots, I did some comparisons myself.
Like you, I found that my stainless steel pots were actually quicker to boil.
I think that unless I really need to lose weight in my camping kit, I'll be sticking with the stainless steel, although I have made up an ultra-lightweight brewkit from my titanium gear which I take on days out. (stove, pot, mug, spork, windshield, fuel, lighter, a couple of drinks and a clean up kit all weighing in at about 350g)
Hi Ivan. That's where the battle comes in doesn't it. Weight versus efficiency. I adore my Stanley stoves but I find myself going for the lighter pots when the time comes. Maybe having a full pack changes my thought pattern.
Did the pot holders on the stove not line up with the slots on the Fire maple pot? It would have moved the pot base closer to the flame if they had and may have changed the boil time.
You are absolutely right. I didn't realise that while doing the test.
Fantastic work man, stoves are really important and I understand why you pay so much attention to them.
Cheers pal.. your recent video is a work of art mate. Love it.
Hi Martin love these test video's 😀 i too am obsessed with stoves keep em coming 👍
Cheers Pat. Yep have a few more at the ready. They are a pain to edit but brilliant to film. It balances out 🤣
Me and Stanley are great together lol.love me Stanley.
Very interesting results. Thank you for doing the test.
Very helpful, your video came along, just as I'm looking to purchase a new stove and pots
I wonder how would it be with lets say soto windmaster or some kind of gas burner to see if its kinda the same hmm
Hi, what do you think of that larger Stanley pot you used at the end? Looks a bit heavier
Hi Martin, I use a Fire Maple heat exchanger (FMC-XK6 Aluminum) pot similar to your one in conjunction with a Pocket Rocket 2. Based on my Scouting days, we used Trangias. Whilst I appreciate they are good in the sense of a complete cook set, I just cannot bring myself to use the burners now. The thoughts of carrying meths and the mess puts me off. What does cause me some little concerns is the risk of contamination from the anodized aluminium but Fire Maple seem a reputable manufacturer. Take care Adrian
Good test! I've got the stanley you have there and people are always surprised how fast I boil water. Was planning to switch to a titanium pot this year to save weight, but now you've got me double thinking that...might just stick with my stanley 🤣.
🤣 I hear you. The Boundless titanium is a great pot I must say. If you were to get one.. go for that. Stanley is a beast. Love it.
Hi, thanks for sharing.
I thought the Heat exchange version pots/ kettles were more FUEL EFFICIENT, and not faster?!
Thanks for the comment. Yeah it has been mentioned that the heat exchange pot should have been lower to the flame so that's something I'm looking at. Another stove rabbit hole I'll go down 🤣
I too am forever tinkering, keep experimenting, and thanks for sharing.
More material should = added heat required, but SS retains heat, Ti does not conduct heat, it transfers it, which will include the surrounding air of course, hence it cools quicker, so looses heat whilst boiling water, so fuel efficiency will probably be down. Compromises to make?
Cheers for that Martin.like you I thought the Stanley would take longer to boil.mate,I can't justify buying another cooker😅
Maybe a test using the most efficient burner, pot, with caldera cone and also most efficient alcohol fuel....or maybe just use what ya got. Thanks for an enjoyable video.
Martín, thanks for your great videos, please keep on posting. In the 'Ultimate Alcohol Stove Battle' you used a 'BRS Infrared Heating Cover' to give stoves the same space for the test. Does this gizmo help transfer heat to a larger part of a cup / pan and stop burning at the centre? And in a tent heating mode, does it kick out a lot of heat? I want to move to cooking outdoors rather than using dehydrated meals, and the flames from my MSR deluxe are very concentrated, great for heating up water, but could it give better results cooking with the BRS add on?
Hi Martin, really interesting video with very surprising results! 😮 I, like you, believed that heat exchangers were the best and bought the fire maple one because of that! Oh well, still a good pot nonetheless. I also bought the Goshawk stove after watching your first class review of it, love it, so many thanks for that. Mind you wasted quite a while searching for the "Goosehawk stove!" 😉😂
Are you going to do a review of the Garmin gps67?
Yep.. still learning it. So much involved in it so want to highlight the best features. It's such a brilliant unit.
I got one before Xmas and the battery longevity was the big plus for me, especially for longer hiking trips.Also got the backpack tether, a great piece of kit.
@@jamesroche2082 yeah the fact the unit goes into expedition mode is brilliant. Mine is the GPS 66s . You have an upper model. I'm jealous 😅
It's all about the girth! 😂 Interesting results but ultimately only a minute difference between the fastest and slowest. I noticed your Firemaple has slits in the exchanger ring. Are these for gas stove arms to fit in and bring the stove head closer to the pot base? There's another video: are boil times affected by the distance of a gas stove to the pot base and does it make a difference then if you have an exchanger or not? Also how good are exchangers in windy conditions versus more traditional pots? 👍
Well pal. I must check that out man. I saw the slits but didn't take notice. Will check it out. Brilliant idea with the fire pit distance. It really makes a difference but what is the right height? That's one video added to the list. Cheers man. I have a titanium JETBOIL stash heat exchange. Will try that out. Pain to edit but great to film. Have a few more recordings done and editing as we speak. Hope all is well man.
Top stuff Martin. You looked genuinely confused by the results! Want to buy my titanium pots? 😅
🤣🤣 you know me too well mate. I actually redid the Stanley pot off camera thinking I left out one minute by mistake 🤣
👍👍👍 .. a nice comparison 😊.
'Boil Times' .. after 74 Summers, no longer the Alpha / Omega .. 'efficiency' being now more important to me (that's why I like my Trangia and it's adjustable 'snuff ring').
My Pots / Mugs / Cookware are of Stainless Steel and Aluminium. Mainly because some I have had a very long time, are paid for and my pockets are not deep enough for Titanium.
'GearSceptic' on You Tube has done some interesting and 'Myth / Mantra-Busting' Testing on 'Boil Times', 'Efficiency' and more. Well worth a watch.
My first ever Alcohol Burner was a 'White Box Stove'. Got it many years ago. Lightweight, does not need a pot stand and it puts out a flame that'll equal that of Krakatoa. Better suited to larger diameter pots though. It's quite a thirsty little beast but still in use .. residing in my Aluminium Trangia-Clone Kettle.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Hey Thomas. Appreciate the comment Sir. Thanks. The Trangia hands down is an winner. So so well built. I will check that channel as well thanks. I wonder if the titanium out there is even titanium or a mixed grade. Have a few more comparisons on the way. My back yard hobby 🤣 my wife thinks I'm cracked
@@soletrail .. 👍 .. most wives do 😏.
Interesting results! To my mind the heat exchange should also act as a wind defender so like @snowcelt I'd be interested in an outdoor test. Anyway I think you've officially earned #supergeek status now 😂
No aluminum for me.
Why is that? Does it give off toxins?
hi, I enjoyed the video, i did a recent experiment like this here: ruclips.net/video/FF-ZjjlD8UQ/видео.html I found what made the biggest difference to the fire maple was the distance away from the flame. i suggest you repeat it with the burner the same distance from the pot base, the heat exchange pot then should be ahead, it was for me. Cheers, Dave
Cheers Dave. That's something I will try. 🤙