What is it about alcohol stoves?
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- What is it about alcohol camping stoves? I just love 'em. They are a great choice for a budget camp stove. A great choice for an ultralight stove if that's your backpacking style. They are compact and the fuel is readily available, They work in pretty much all conditions....go on....you know you want one.
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Paul, I spent the weekend out on Dartmoor, all down to your channel. Going through some extra hard sh*t at the mo but felt so alive, the weather was just as I needed, windy, wet and awesome. Keep sharing it all with us, we love it. Thanks
Massive respect to you friend. Outdoors can be a great place to empty your head. Walking along and letting your thoughts meander is a fantastic way of getting perspective on things. Sitting waiting for your water to boil with an alcohol stove can mean passers by are always happy to join you for a brew, (if you want them to of course!) I hope things improve for you and you have many more good days out. Cheers!
Keep going, it does get better.
Keep going, were not here long and everything is temporary
I love the quiet when using it . And being able to know how much fuel to take
Trangia is my go to stove. Used alcohol for years but recently added the gas burner to it. I find the alcohol more reliable. Yeah it burns slower but its consistent and I have cooked full English many times!
The sticks in the ground trick is so cool.
It's so simple and I never thought of it.
Thanks for sharing.
You're right.
People do get addicted to these toys.
I have made my alcohol stoves (aprox 10 pcs) years ago.
Periodically they get taken outside and put to good use.
I absolutely love my trangia knock off. It lives in a small soft cooler bag along with a couple of packs of noodles, dehydrated veggies, small tins of chicken, tea, coffee sachets, cup, spoon, knife and tiny chopping board.
As I live in the bush you never know when a trip to the city will turn into an impromptu over night camp out. Lol
To add to my last comment.... an easy simmer ring modification is to put a small magnet on the steel revolving lid of the simmer ring (top surface). This part is steel, so a magnet will stick to it. Now....instead of burning your fingers trying to take it off you now just use a metal item to attract the magnet and allow you to remove the ring without burning your fingers...
Hope this helps and allows you to retain your fingerprints!
Magnets will turn into useless bits of metal with repeated heating. Try holding a soldering iron on a magnet
@@PhilHaddon Hello Phil, Thank you for your comment. Of course I agree... Heat does degrade magnets. I am expecting mine to fail as I have now been using it for two years. At a cost of 10 pence for a small silver (in colour) button magnet in my opinon is brillant payback to allow me to retain my fingerprints. There are many alternatives, leather glove, retrieving magnet (magnet on an telescopic ariel)... Everyone to their own and what suits them..
One thing to note is that the magnet is never in direct heat. Placing it on the side of the swiveling simmer lid puts it out of the direct flame as soon as the simmer lid is opened. I havent met many people who use the simmer ring half closed, in my experience the simmer lid is used as a snuffer to extinguish the flame and prevent the O ring being damaged in the transport lid. Or used wide open to just close out just the vapour jets. Closing it more is pointless and you would better off using a candle if using the standard Trangia setup. I prefer to stir the food and take on and off the heat. The Trangia does have a habit of burning in the centre of the pan if left. In fact the only substance I haven't burnt in the centre of the pan is water!
I posted this to provide the user of a Trangia an option to try out for themselves. I am not forcing anyone to do it.. Its not a must.... This is purely from my experience over the last two years and for 10p I will let people experience it for themselves. Two years in use should say something.
Again, thank you for your post. I will continue to use my magnet ;-)
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Dan
@@danielbailey818 well I think it's a brilliant idea!
I just carry a bit of stiff stainless steel wire with a hook on the end. This can be used for retrieving the simmer ring or prodding it to change the setting.
The great thing about the Trangia is that the burner is made more efficient and delivers optimum “bloom” when it’s used with the base and windshield provided with the 25 and 27 series sets. Their designs ensure the heat is used efficiently, greatly improving boil times but admittedly bulky and comparatively heavy.
As a Scout leader, I’ve taught countless kids to cook and brew up outdoors using Trangia sets and they are impossible to wreck even for hyperactive adolescents.
Lang may their lums reek! 😉
Hilarious using the term ' efficient ' when talking about Trangia !
@@Chris66able efficient needed mean the quickest?
@@lauriebloggs8391 No I mean efficient ! Although it is very slow too !
@@Chris66able sorry, should have read, "efficient need not...."
”Hear hear!"
What I love about your videos Paul is that you explain it about as practically and cleanly without so much of the useless banter. ❤From Michigan! Cheers
You are not alone in your addiction to alcohol stoves. The elegant simplicity of the stoves and as you mentioned they are dead silent. I just spent two days in the backcountry cooking on my trangia and I could hear the sounds of nature not a small rocket engine firing from a canister.
Love alcohol stoves. I’ve just purchased a Speedster 30ml stove and Ti pot support for simple hot drinks, soups and the like. The joy of not fussing over how quickly it will come to a boil - it’ll come to a boil when it does! 😁
AGREE: No noise....no smell.
You can also use purell liquid hand sanitizer for fuel. Add a pinch of salt to the fuel and stir it to add a little bit of yellow to the fuel so you can see it. :)
that is an amazing tips, thank you
@@azriramli6939 Purell hand sanitizer works as well. Try that. It will leave a little bit of residue inside the burner. I'm so glad this helped! :)
Last night I bought the X boil after watching your review. I have just had an email from X boil informing me I am the first Irish man with an X boil. I replied telling them they can thank Paul messner..
I use all kind of stoves. But if I am on a tour where the stove _must_ work, I go with the Trangia 28 (mini trangia). Bomb proof. It is possible to use wood in the small stand on the mini if you for some reason can not get alcohol fuel. It is slow, but works. I have also made a 3D-printed tool (aluminium, printed at Shapeways) to grip the pan and kettle.
Love the sticks in the ground for the pot support 👍🔥
Love alcohol stoves. I made my own from an old shoe-polish container, which has the added benefit of having a lid. Borrowed some loft insulation and bought a coffee filter gauze. Stuff the insulation in, cut the gauze so you can stuff it down the sides of the insulation inside the tin and it's spill-proof. The bottoms of these thinner cans can get a bit warm though, so watch out for that.
upgrade - to a dubbin tin!
I have been backpacking for 30+ years, I used a MSR whisperlight for the first twenty years, still have it, still works, (it has needed maintenance, new O-rings, gaskets, pump bits....) great stove.
For last ten years I have been using a Trangia, I love how quiet and simple they are.
Love the simplicity and ease of use.
Really useful.
Thank You Paul!
Over and over again with the quiet of the woodland thing, ( it took me several hours to let the whining noise of the city actually subside ) you are gently guiding us in the way we MUST go...oh and by the by, the world is in a state of financial crisis. Your heart is a little medicine to the average bloke. God bless you and your family. In His Shalom
Love your enthusiasm for the alcohol stove Paul. It has been self evident over the years on several of your camping trips.
Love your collection! You have inspired me to create my own stoves for fun and camping
What an awesome video! I love your addiction! Even though I'm super happy with my Jetboil... I think its great to be aware of other options and be able to diversify your kit to be sure you can adapt to any situation and reduce weight by changing up your kit if your next adventure requires it. Thank you Mr Messner
If I had to have one stove for the apocalypse, it would be the Trangia. Hell, it is the stove that kept me fed in the army when we trained fighting behind the enemy lines. I do use a Pocket Rocket 2 and sure it is fast and fancy, but when it comes to absolute reliability in freezing temperatures, you cannot beat a Trangia.
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@@escapetherace1943 depends where you are.
@@dmythica wood
How are you going to fuel it in an apocalypse? Nah. Give me a stick stove that i can use with multiple fuels like a firebox nano any day over a purely alcohol burner.
@@dmythica if there is not enough wood for a stick stove where you are going (hard to imagine) then I still wouldn't choose alcohol. The fuel is too bulky and risk of it leaking in your pack is much higher than other options.
Jen just asked, “what are you watching now?” I said “I’m watching Paul boil water again”. She just walked out of the room. They just don’t get it. Cracking video again mate.
Haha. Thanks mate. Jo says similar. ‘They’ve seen the orange mug’ ‘yep…it’s boiling again’ 😂😂
Mine usually says.......not ANOTHER stove...🙂
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First time I tried those soba pot noodle things, I didn't read the instructions properly and didn't get rid of the liquid before adding the sludge, just mixed it in. It's actually very nice that way, like soup. You can drink the remaining liquid once you fished out most of the noodles. Stays warm longer too, when you ditch the liquid, the noodles cool off quite quick.
Good tip.
Oh wow, that's how I've been cooking and eating them all my life, I had no idea it was the 'wrong' way! Are you sure!? I mean, who would throw away a hot flavoured soup when you're outside trying to keep warm? Honestly, I'm laughing my head off thinking how I've NEVER read the instructions... but I think WE are right and anyone chucking out good soup is crazy haha. Because you're right - it's tasty, soupy, and hotter longer!
Great video Paul as usual, personally I’m a big fan of alcohol stoves just for how quiet,simple and reliable they are,I especially love the whole trangia system with how well designed it is.
Yes i agree
Absolutely, and as there have been so many made, you can usually pick up a good one on eBay for reasonable money. A great way to start without spending a fortune on titanium gear.
Definetly the Swiss Army knife of cooksets. Versatile and reliable.
All of the above compliments - and I just enjoy watching the flame when its dark, as my brew comes to the boil
I share your love of alcohol stoves and the Trangia in particular. In fact in a recent gear purge the only stove I’ve kept is my 27 series set. Yes it’s bulky compared to some setups but once you’ve added a pot support, pot, windshield etc it soon adds up. It’s rugged, stable, windproof and gives me a childlike joy when I use it. One thing I’ve bought is the winter attachment, which clips onto the bottom of the burner and allows you to preheat the burner in freezing conditions. Blooms super quick even when the burner and alcohol are cold. Great video as always Paul.
I am not the only one!!! I too, as soon as my alcohol stove arrived, I made a cup of tea with it. I now have a 1 man tent and all the wild camping gear to got out on multi day hikes. So I am officially a person with all the gear and no idea at the moment.
I love the simplicity of alcohol stoves. I also have quite an extensive collection and have found that they are by far the best stove for my little sailboat. they’re super easy to set up on the beaches, mountain tops or anywhere between!
Great video Paul. I love Trangia's and they're my favourite stove (The Trangia 27 storm cooker will always be the king of camping stoves for me). I remember that Trangia used to state that you shouldn't put your pot, with contents, on the stove straight away, as the heat can be dissipated and not provide enough energy for the stove to bloom before cooking. I also like the fact that Trangia's have an internal wick, unlike other spirit burners, which draws the fuel up towards the jets.
I’ve had my Trangia stove kit for 44 years and it still gets use. Best Buy I ever made.
My first Trangia is coming tommrow, can't wait to get out for a walk and a brew on the coast past. Loved this video, I'm sure this is just the start of a collection now!!! Thanks.
I still use my trangia burner and I love the relaxing aspect of sitting down and the ceremony of making a cuppa in the countryside.
Have a Trangia stove and cook set bought at least 25 years ago - still works - and a top of the range multifuel stove still in its bag that I bought over 10 years ago for a cycle trip and never used.
I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail in 2011 with nothing to cook with except an alcohol stove made from a metal beer bottle. It worked great! 😊
Agree. Something about the simplicity is so satisfying to use. I love mine - it's silent, the bioethanol gives off nice smell, never needs fixing.
I really like that ancient stone wall behind you. On a farm in "New England" where I spent part of my youth ( till about age 12) we had ancient "Pasture Walls" of fences built out of shale, rocks, borders pulled out of the fields way back in the 17th century! As I walked down the farm "Lane" between two of these walls, there would be all sorts of living critters living in the cracks! My favorite were the Chipmunk 🐿
Hi Paul, I recently bought some stuff from Speedster Stoves, a little company that make quite a bit of their own kit or re-purpose other items for backpacking use. They have some very good combinations of lightweight and compact windshield/pot stands and some brilliantly simple and effective alcohol burners in various sizes. Lots of other useful cooking and backpacking bits and pieces too, and their prices are much lower than most. I think they are great. Thanks for all you contribute to the camping and backpacking scene Paul - much appreciated!
Perfect. Exactly why we love Trangia. Nothing to break and available around the world.
I purchased a gas stove once, only used it once as well. The silence and simplicity of an alcohol stove is golden.
I've often wondered why anyone would choose one type of stove over another when they're all so compact, but I like your comment about the noise of the gas burner. Great point!!
Can’t beat the silence alcohol stove!!! Aside from that, I really like being able to see exactly how much fuel I have. Storing just enough in the trangia for a quick brew outside is so nice. Great overview Paul!
Love mine …… brought it because of your brilliant reviews. Got others too (all your fault lol). But my trangia is the never let you down one bit of cheap kit I always take.
Thank you Paul for all you do and the knowledge you share 👍
Great video paul, fun interesting with a plethora of useful information and multiple options. These short style videos are equally as entertaining, informative and fun as ur longer camping trip vids. Your enthusiasm and enjoyment for the subject shine and mixed with the essential ingredient that is beyond manufacture and eludes other content markers, your likeableity factor always enhances your work. Thanks again for another enjoyable video. God bless 🙏
I am hooked on simple...it just works every time.
The trangia (or similar) has its place, I find it works best if our on a hike and only wanting to boil water for drinks or a meal. Silent, and can fill it up ready for the day. Anything longer than I prefer my Soto windmaster and gas.
Spot on with the comment about sound, sure it takes a little bit longer to boil water with them but since they are silent it’s a nice relaxing wait.
I love them too. I remember the first time I used my Trangia mini set. It was at Cathedral Campground on Embargo Creek. I got up before everyone and made coffee in the pre-dawn. The flames glowed blue under the pot.
I started off with a Trangia 30 years ago and then went lighter and faster as time went on. I’ve recently bought a Trangia 27 to slow things down a bit appreciate a good meal outdoors. So reliable and easy to use.
Great video, Paul. I use a Trangia every morning in the local park to make myself a cup of coffee. I always use a ferro rod to light it. Very easy and convenient and cheap.
Thank You. This is a very pleasant and informative video at a very relaxed pace.
Simplicity, a nice little charm to it.
I never considered them here in Australia where there’s always a bushfire risk, but that shield works well. Cheers
I love the fact that you know exactly how much fuel that you have. It burns silently which is great when day hiking and relaxing.
On multiday hikes the less powerful burn makes cooking (not just rehydrating meals) easier.
I started backpacking this year and the x-boil was one of the first things I got. Love its weight and simplicity. Will get a gas stove as well for longer tours with friends, but nothing beats the (missing) noise of alcohol stoves.
I've got two gas backpacking stoves, they stay home when backpacking. If you enjoy your alcohol stove, I don't think you'd get much more out of cannisters stoves. But, buying things is fun......
Digging mine out for the weekend, thanks Paul.
Have my trangia nested in a smaller gasification stove,which also works as tragia holder.Alls working great .Good video!
Love my ESBIT alcohol stove. Been using it for decades, beats white gas blowtorches, and jet-boil type stoves hands down. I don't need boiling water in 3min. I'm out there relaxing, 6min is just fine by me. No hassles, cheap fuel, not cannisters or pressurizing gizmos for white fuel etc. Nice post PM! With you 100%. Cheers.
I love them too. Hard to beat in the woods.
Totally agree with you! I just love alcohol stoves and use them in all 4 seasons in Minnesota. Something about the simplicity and minimalism is why don't want to change back to gas. Great video!
I made a pressurised alcohol stove out of a couple of beer cans once, just like all the RUclips videos show you how . . .
. . . and it worked VERY well for me, just as well, because i was “In-between housing”, in a tent for a month at the time!
It boiled water pretty well, around 10 minutes, for hot drinks and a noodle block, mixed with the contents of a (minestrone) cupasoup sachet.
And i even boiled water for a strip wash too! All in all, that DIY stove served me very well and i still got it somewhere, if i ever need it again . . .
Another great video Paul, with some sound advice. I’ve had my Trangia stove about 40 years now, part of the smaller complete set, but the last couple of years I have used just the burner with a titanium Trangia triangle copy with just the Trangia kettle, just the right size for a brew or some noodles.
Thanks for the video. I have replaced my sterno stove with an alcohol stove. Used it this weekend to fry sausage and made red beans and rice with my propane burner. They make a great compact second stove top. Nice video.
I have one of the original trangia 27 stoves which I bought over 30 years ago. Used it extensively and also a mini trangia. I find it really interesting that a lot of people are using them now without the windshield and pan package but just with a small lightweight support. Haven't tried that setup but may give it a go; I enjoy using gas stoves now! One safety point I haven't seen mentioned, it's really important to let the burner cool right down if refilling. Interesting video, thank you!
The cross stand what Paul used for the Trangia burner, is no where as fast as a Trangia stoves you mentioned (excluding the mini). With a proper wind shield around, it is a very fuel efficient system though.
One of your best videos. Have fun stay safe.
Great video ....im addicted to this little stoves
My goto is the Bushcraft essentials ultralight and a Trangia alcohol. Great setup :)
I always have my Honey stove from Bob and Rose. It’s a cracking wee wood burner for a bit of fun, but it comes with a Trangia holder so I also take that in case it’s too wet or not safe for lighting wood.
I also have the Hive extension that essentially turns the Honey into a wee bbq. Perfect setup for me makes me feel all Ray Mearsy! 😂
What a beautiful location. I have an alcohol stove in my boat and it's amazing. 35 years old and works like new.
I'm a jet boil man, but this seems very useful for lighter packs / long multi day walks. You have convinced me
I use my boundless voyage one all the time after watching your videos. I went from gas to spirit 👍 The weight saving is amazing compared to the gas one i used to use . 👌
I love my alcohol stoves for all the same reasons as you. For folks who want to find a cheap way of cooking during these hard times, I recommend a couple of alcohol stoves and nutritionally-dense food, such as rice, lentils, beans and pasta. (with stock cubes to add some flavour). Jetboil stoves are fine, as long as the neighbours don't complain about the noise! And small rocket stoves are fine, as long as you have a ready supply of small, dry timber twigs. Thanks for this video Paul; hopefully it will help a lot of folks out - and not just the busshcrafters among us.
Great video!
I have fairly recently purchased a Trangia stove and really like it. I live in Oregon in the US Pacific Northwest, and have relied for years upon the very good MSR Whisperlite white gas (parrafin) stove. Great stove, and it melts snow for drinking water in a snow cave like a V-1 engine, but it turns out you don't always need that power (or weight).
The various alcohol burners are really great devices, and cost and weigh far less. Certainly the Trangia burner is completely sufficient for three-season camping.
I'd never owned a alcohol stove until I watched your channel lol was saving for the jet boil but after seeing your vids I went for a couple of trangias and a couple of bush box type things and boom... I'm addicted I now own several lol. Great informative videos keep it up 👍👊
Hello Paul; thanks for the video. I love alcohol stoves and prefer them to everything except maybe twig stoves which I can also adapt to be a pot stand for my alcohol burner if needed. I've also made my own plus purchased several others.
Had my Trangia for 25 years what I love is the simplicity no moving part and availability of fuel,, yes its a bit slower but after all your out in the bush and gives you time to enjoy the moment.
I use my trangia with a firebox nano titanium. It’s made to fit the trangia, it also gives me the option of using wood if I run out of meths. Love the simplicity of alcohol burners.
I started off doing this, but quickly realized the alcohol stove was no longer a valuable part of this setup. Ironically, the nano is the thing that made me ditch the trangia. Never looked back. I just carry 4 or 5 solid fuel tabs with me for emergency and use the nano's solid fuel plate. But I rarely need that because the stick stove works so well! I'm done carrying bulky (potentially leaky) alcohol around (unless it's the stuff for drinkin). When I'm car camping, I do use the nano with the tangia gas burner. I just don't see alcohol as a great option for any of these situations anymore.
Love my Trangia stove(s) too Paul, to the point that I always have one with me in the car as part of my emergency kit ..
Love alcohol stoves, got a similar setup. Toaks windshield, Esbit pot and SBP burner. One disadvantage is the Toak use two pegs so they need to be stored separately.
Nice that you spend some time on trangia (type)stoves.I like cooking normal meals instead of these expensive add water blubber bags 😊.Got the big 25 size and the smallest trangia too ,so easy when I need two burners.I go camping to enjoy the slow pace so spending a bit of time to make a good meal is a part of it.
I think it is the simplicity of a trangia, as well as the silence and the total reliability, that are the attraction.
Spot on Paul, Trangia systems are the best for actually cooking not just boiling water. Simple maintenance free, unbreakable and will last a lifetime.
I use a Trangia (Alcohol), the MSR Pocket Rocket (Gas) and the MSR Whisperlite (Multifuel). They all have their pros and cons depending on where and how you plan to use them. The Trangia is definitely the stove I use most of the time.
Loved the video.
Just started wild camping this year and took your advice a while ago and bought a Trangia.
Absolutely love it and would recommend it to anyone.
Hi my friend, alcoholic cooker stove fan, top tip when cooking noddles put the flavouring in before the noddles then the flavour will be infused into the noddles, don’t tip the excuse water out it has so much flavour and great for dipping your bread in the gravy
@@vincemc8301 Do it all the time bro
Thanks for another inspiring and useful video Paul .
One tip for you maybe .... if you need to melt frozen water , remember to melt ice not snow . This was a surprise to me when I read about it years ago , but snow has air in it and the air insulates , keeping the cold in . Strange , but there it is !
When melting snow, fill cup with snow and add water. The snow has air pockets, the water will melt the snow and conduct / absorbs heat faster.
Always retain water for the next boil up. . . . - - - . . .
Brilliant vlog!!! Thank you Paul! Just ordered!!!😎
Thank you Paul. I enjoyed the walk along with the stove. I too have the stove virus.
Ron
You could put a coin or a large washer on that burner to cut the heat down .
Nice overview of the reliable alcohol stove . Love mine . Take care Paul 👍🏕
Excellent video Paul, I've been wondering about buying one of the spirit burners and this, for me, is brilliant. Given me a few things to think about. Thank you. Also, watching you made me relax you have a very calm and measured delivery. Good work mate
Thanks for mentioning mentholated spirits, Paul. I live in Australia and I haven’t really seen a lot of different fuels advertised here but, we have heaps of meths here so, it’s my first choice to use in my little Trangia fuel stove. Great video, mate 👍🏼, love your channel.
Many years ago when I was a child the old WW2 vets that taught me how to survive made coffee can stoves using a roll of toilet paper and alcohol poured over it. It would burn for a good while and one could warm their hands if nothing else. Not long after that I came across a Tangia like set up and kept one in my hunting pack with a few instant chocolates and coffees. Made a few through the years using the coke cans. I never regretted the little extra weight when that hot drink hit those cold lips. Thanks for the video.
Totally agree, I’ve bought all different stoves and have a nice collection but 9 times out of ten go back to the alcohol stove. Use the small 27 trangia for longer trips if weight is not an issue and use trangia burner with a support for shorter trips or an emergency stove.
I have been through a number of alcohol stoves as well, but I like the Trangia best. The setup I use will boil 500 ml of water in about 6 minutes on 15 - 20 ml of fuel. No speed record, but pretty efficient.
Big fan of Speedster stoves myself, cracking bits of kit from a UK cottage maker
I have several stoves now of various types (yes, I have the bug!) and am always poking around online looking at new and used ones. The wife gets suspicious whenever I hang around the mailbox now! I replaced the rubber Trangia o-rings with silicone ones from ebay and these are excellent. Handle heat really well, don't go hard and crack, fit firmly and don't fall out, make the lids easier to open and seal beautifully. Love cooking on alcohol stoves, and do so quite often on the table in the garden out in the backyard when I can't go bush, just for the sheer enjoyment of it. In cold weather, stick the Trangia in your pocket and warm it up while you get things ready, lights much easier as the fuel evaporates better...
Another great video Paul I love my trangia and have been using it for 30+ years. I'm currently doing up a small yacht. (The sea is my second love after the mountains) I've put in a Compass 3000 alcohol stove (a copy of the discontinued Origo 300 alcohol stove) for same reason is the simplicity of them.(might be a good option for the camper van!) Anyway keep up the good work with the videos.
I live and camp in the woods, so I often use my little stick stove as I have fuel everywhere. This might be fun to try!
Trangia 25 kit and an small Ti wood grill. In places in N. America it's very wet this time of year and there's large wilderness and wild roadless areas. This is an good bit of kit to walk in and hunt squirrel, grouse, and deer in season. Maybe some trout too. Make for making incredible meals. It's a bit of weight but it's well worth it.
I'm a big fan of alcohol stoves too.
I have the 1-2 person and the 3-4 person Trangia kit.
For those that don't have the full kit (including pots, frypan, pan/pot handle, stand and windshield), I love your tips to make a support base with rocks or sticks.
I do have a Jetboil, which is better if you want to boil water quickly, but for safety, simplicity and environmentally (you don't throw away empty cannisters), I prefer the Trangia kit.
As for melting snow, rather than putting snow in the pot, I put the snow in the frypan lid on top of the pot, so I'm cooking my meal and melting snow at the same time!
The Trangia is great in the wind (unlike most other stoves). I position the support base so that the wind is coming in through the holes,which allows more oxygen into the flame.
Some say the weight of a Trangia kit is a negative. Although it is heavier in comparison to gas stoves, it is not a fair comparison as when they compare the weights of say a gas burner to a Trangia kit, the gas burner excludes the pots, windshield, frypan and pan/pot handle that are standard in the Trangia kit.