The Heat Is On: Bjorn Lomborg on the Summer’s Record Heat
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2022
- Recorded on August 18, 2022.
The summer of 2022 saw record temperatures recorded all over the world. Bjorn Lomborg acknowledges that climate change is here, it’s real, and humans are largely responsible for it. He also says that it is survivable and manageable. In other words, climate change is not the extinction-level event it is often characterized as. Lomborg also discusses practical ways to lower our carbon footprint and emissions, pointing out why “carbon free by 2050” probably isn’t achievable and why we should make no massive changes to our economies or lifestyles to achieve it.
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I’m beginning to lose confidence wether saving human lives is still the main objective of those in power
Great conversation.
My background is as an environmental scientist (hydrogeologist), and I recently had discussion with a friend who insisted that humanity was going to go extinct in the next few decades due to climate change. I asked him why he thought this, and he cited recent media articles (unspecified).
I consider myself an environmentalist that can do math, and it is increasingly clear to me that the primary cause of climate change is anthropogenic. This said, I was pretty sure the claim of pending extinction of humanity wasn't true, but I acknowledged that I may have missed a new projection.
So I pulled up the 3 most recent publications by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that likely addresses this issue and searched headings and did a series of key-word searches. The only discussions of extinction that I found were of isolated species that were unable to migrate or species that suffered habitat loss due to shifting climate patters, which makes sense. There was also discussion of localized ecosystem collapse, which also makes sense especially in marginal areas or locations that have other stresses such as human encroachment. There were thoughtful discussions on how this species loss, ecosystem degradation, and overall climate change will impose significant financial costs and suffering on humans and how climate change will negatively impact our infrastructure.
Nowhere in any of the authoritative IPPC reports that I reviewed was human extinction discussed. I expanded the search and found some rather **ahem!** fringe articles on human extinction and climate change, a number of which I read or skimmed. They seems slightly hysterical (my opinion) and were not persuasive.
I politely gave a summary of my research to my friend. This summary was not well received, and we agreed to disagree.
Bottom line: I enjoy hearing contrarian discussions by folks like Mr. Lomborg. He makes a number of persuasive points and gives a lot to think about.
15 minutes on Google will show that these highs are not record breakers. Spend 5 minutes looking at the 1930s. It will shock you.
The key to bringing tempratures down are trees. A mature tree expires 100 gal of water a day , creates shade, retains water in soil, takes in carbon dioxide, gives oxygen. Stores carbon.
As a person with ADHD in their middle to late 50's, 20 minutes on youtube is a stretch for me. 65 minutes of me glued to the screen is unthinkable, yet here I am, right at the end, and still fascinated by this conversation in the same way that I was five minutes in.
It was pretty comfortable here on UK south coast. My room fan stayed in its box. Never needed. Someone's on the fiddle somewhere. Cheers Stuart.
Had the coldest winter in Brisbane that I can remember in 25 years.
Bjorn is always a great guest, Peter is the best interviewer.
Guaranteed to be a good episode.
Peter, great admirer and fan of Uncommon Knowledge here. I urge you to interview Patrick Moore, co-founder of Green Peace, and now a vocal opponent of the carbon fear mongering leftist "green movement". Patrick, as an emanently serious scientist, needs to have his countervailing and persuasive views on anthropogenic climate change heard in this debate.
We are now very much on the verge of self inflicted global economic disaster because of a psychopathically emotional reaction to a moderate phenomenon of gradual natural climate change that has little or nothing to do with human behavior. It has much more to do with the geophysical realities of a lengthy natural warming and cooling rhythm of earth's climate that has demonstrably existed for millions of years before man became a dominant species on this planet. Climate variations are related to periodic solar radiation eruptions and the fact that the earth has a 1/2° wobble in its rotational axis. Interaction between our rotational wobble and our eliptical orbit around the sun rationally explain geologically observable changes in climate over very long periods of time. It's not coincidental that Ice Age cycles have regular 10,000-16,000 year predictability.
Patrick Moore lays this out in his rational and manifestly logical arguments against the current global hysteria over alledged man-caused climate anomalies. Mankind desperately needs a gifted interviewer like you to give him equal time in this debate before it is too late. The Chicken Littles of the Green World Movement are luring us down a scary road to irreversible disaster!
The temperatures in the 1930s were higher. Go to newspaper records to get the truth. The “official” meteorological records have been “adjusted.”
This is what an honest conversation of climate change looks and sounds like.
I'm in Scotland and we have been lucky enough to have had about 7 sunny days this summer. For your information we are part of UK! England gets better weather than Scotland because it is in the south .
If Bjorn and Jordan Peterson went on a world-wide campaign espousing these ideas in all major capitals including those in the developing world I wonder how many main stream media sources would carry their message.
We’re also in a 400 year cycle and a grand solar minimum which effects climate. The UK max temperature was taking in the city, widely recognised as not reliable. If you look at history you’ll realise that it’s not cut and dry. Problem is most people dismiss it.
It was relatively cool here in southern Arizona, south of Tucson at 3,000 elevation. Just a few days of 100 though the average temp in June and July is 100. Many days under 90. At Tucson Airport 20 miles away and 1,000 feet lower, where official records are kept, we're told it was one of the hottest summers ever. Weather has so many variables it's difficult to predict today's weather just a few hours out. Weather has always changed and in ways humans cannot predict. Lomborg has a great deal of common sense, much needed.
Viewing this should be mandatory for every graduating secondary school student worldwide.
Unfortunately, he is fixated on the belief that the sea levels will rise, even as millionaires & billionaires continue to buy up beach front property.
Well, our energy policy is horrid. 5 farms in my county are going bust because of the energy expenses.
This is sickening, and the eco-wackos just don't care. They never will.
As stated, if we did everything they wanted to get to zero carbon emissions right now, it would not change the temperature by much at all, even in the long run. So, what makes you so ready to believe man's activities at the present time are significantly impacting global climate?
Been one of the mildest summers I can remember in my life.
Lomborg has done many long form interviews, this one should be great, as usual. Personally, I watch these at 1.25x because there are only so many hours in the day
For every heatwave in one area of the planet you'll have cooler than normal temperatures in another.
Two intellectual giants! What a pleasure to listen to your conversation! Thank you!
People are not the main contributors to climate.
The UK has experienced a spike in warm weather, not climate! The weather is nothing out of the norm, as indeed it's also been very, very wet on more occasions than warm?
Since the beginning of time our weather has changed
but it was cooler in Canada. So... was it really a record high?
We actually had a rather cool August.
Bjorn is great, thanks for having him on
I suppose it’s all about feeling good rather than doing good. The hurricane that’s aiming at west Florida will get blamed on climate change even though it’s probably BS😂
Nearly all the Great Barrier Reef has recovered perfectly
An excellent policy discussion. Sensible actions such as those that Bjorn Lomborg outlines will be taken up once the follies have been tried and the scams exposed after most people see they have been ripped off.
It wasnt even that hot this summer. I can remember much hotter.
I think Bjorn is way too diplomatic.
The right thing to do, would be to confiscate the wealth of the most influencial climate fear mongerers. Then drop them off in the poorest part of the world, to fend for their own survival. Put their money where their mouth is, is another word for it.
The countries that need to do something are not, and ones like the U.S. have been, are now being blamed which makes no sense. Is the solution being promoted worse than the recommended fix???
We live on a hostile planet -- heat, monsoon, typhoons, famine, viruses, cold, and so on. Its never going to be walk in the park.
Send this to every member of Congress.
Appreciate the sensible transparent discussion fellas
Love your work Peter Robinson!
He's a terrific guy isn't he. He restores my faith in the American nation.
We definitely need to do something.
Unfortunately, the thing that most people think we need to do is unlikely to work.
Lots and lots of money to be made on the climate issue thats a fact.
nice to hear some sanity for change
In a world of lies great to see someone telling the truth, speak now the truth will soon be illegal.
Summer heat wave 1980, 108 Degrees in Mobile Alabama. At night, 105 Degrees.
Exactly how is warmer a bad thing?
so what if the planet is getting warmer- its not a major problem at all,
As sea levels rise we get more evaporation and more rain, cloud cover which will lower world temperature, A perfect world 🌍
lovely, Lovely thinking...@34:...Bjorn describes Urban areas hotter heat than the countryside, hence how do we help Cities prepare for, ameliorate the damage...
In the Pacific Northwest (not known for it's hot summers ) we went thru a 'heat dome' in 2021. Seattle (where I live) 108 - never been hotter - horrible, especially if you were on the highways.
In Portland - even hotter - 116 - BUT a temperature Scientist went around Portland and recorded the temperatures in denuded areas (no trees), asphalt paved parking lots, no greenery to be found, yet many poor people lived there. The recorded temperature from one parking lot was 180 ! !
There is a very straightforward Explanation of why in those cities the temperature is higher than ever. Cities in Europe are notorious for the destruction of their green spaces :Paris ,London ,Madrid, and many American capitals have been turned into jungles of Cement.Local authorities sell public land To developers, highways Are built in Detrimental of parks and forests. Why would you expect?
Such a great interview. Great knowledge approaches compared to fear mongering. Then again if it doesn't bleed it doesn't lead... that's on us.
Most Chicken Little observations are based on too small sample sizes. And if it bleeds, it leads, which means panic naturally gets attention of your fight or flight brain segments. Sells papers, gets clicks.
Finally back to some in person interviews with Bjørn.
Has anyone ever estimated the climate impact of taking energy out of the wind? Seems to me that reduced wind speed leads to longer times for air warming
Why not show the historical weather charts along with the claims that are being made?
Thanks for great conversations
Björn is a real hero
The problem with 'average' temperatures is it needs to be understood where the readings are taken and in what concentrations. Most are in temperate/tropical areas, but there are only three official stations in the whole of Antarctica where the coldest winter on record has just been recorded, but these three stations' readings will have been overwhelmed by the majority elsewhere.
More science, less POLITICAL science.
Love Dr. Lomborg but he's not entirely current or correct about one thing on nuclear: he says it only provides electricity. That's true with today's reactors but some of the Gen IV systems currently under development are designed to provide process heat. Given that (for instance) in the US ~36% of total delivered energy consumption in the manufacturing sector is used for process heating ... that's a big need that the current crop of Gen IV small modular reactors could fill.
IF they work right.
For the record I also love the oil from algae idea too.
A top-quality professional interviewed by a well-respected university, RUclips has a context link under the video. It's close to sticking warning heretics under the video.
As usual, an excellent discussion! Thanks for taking the time!🙏💖🙏
Excellent conversation. Very informative and thought provoking. Keep these videos coming.
Climate Change vs Weather
Follow the money.
Scare the public into submission.
Nothing to worry about as far as climate emergency. Many things to do to help people and Lomberg’s recommendations would be good to pursue in careful ways.
1930's were much hotter.
What a combo. This should be interesting
Thank you for the informative conversation.
With nuclear you can create fuel like methanol and hydrogen
What a great convo.
The Summer ended abruptly shortly after Labor Day as usual. I can’t see the world getting warmer they only bring up the areaaswhich are hotter and those areas change from year to year.
Cape Town is still cool. No globel heat here.
Roman world was much warmer than today.
Thank you very much. Hope policy makers will consider.
Lomborg makes a compelling argument. Some of his details may be wrong, but other items sound perfectly reasonable.
Watching applied constrained vision of the kind dr. Thomas Sowell described in "A Conflict Of Visions"
Refreshing voice of reason
Fantastic conversation about the century's biggest and for the earth's population the most unnecessarily frightening question. How can a conversation like this reach populations around the world and penetrate the alarmist agenda? Bjorn should have millions of ambassadors all over the world that can reach as many people as possible. Perhaps we need political parties with climate common sense as their guiding idea? It's time to give hope while innovation solves the "problem"!
I doubt that a climate tipping will happen but if it does will we have the tech we need if we have no sense of urgency?
Damn, Texas was hot in last summer. Better that than flooding. That is nasty. Hurricane Ian hit Florida really hard but last year's Hurricane Ida hit LA and continued up to NY where it killed over 50 people in the area. Not a lot of attention was placed on the damage of Ida and how it contributed to the surges in gas prices in 2022. Air pollution is a topic that often gets left off the agenda. As I live in Korea most of the year I experience it often. CO2 is not the only gas to worry about.
It would be nice if someone would actually talk about nuclear energy maybe come up with some facts that support it
Two important items were forgotten: Food production and Fossil fuel pollution.
1:04:00 Lifetime expectancy for Americans is projected to decrease in the coming decades. I would like to see an argument on that.
Need more coal fired power plants for we can run air conditioning and or heater.
Word.
Bjorn is excellent in this interview. Great job, Peter Robinson!
For me the most urgent question is what to do with all that waist, that garbage!!!
Dr Peter Ridd is the expert on the barrier reef.
Go indoors to avoid heat? Maybe caves could help again?
Im glad that we can keep the planets biodiversity, farmland fertility and stop tipping points from happening just with airconditioning. Never thought about it that way.
Thank you for sharing
Climate change is very complex. Arctic melting, feedback loops, methane bursts, and global dimming were not mentioned.
Great Interview
Im in a poor country. Our agriculture, safety, society, businesses, etc, are all greatly affected by the increase of super typhoons, deadly heat, flooding, etc. Thats what affects our gdp, not over-zealous climate change policies imposed by the government.
Atomic energy, thorium salt molten reactors, 4th gen., hydrogen for buses, trucks ships and other heavy machinery. More spend on R&D should be the way. I still don’t understand why we still insist on wind & solar when we will destroy our planet with all the co2 that will be with the mining, water consumed for lithium and other rare minerals for batteries etc. I can keep giving examples but enough.
Not in Georgia 😂😂😂😂 , it will not stop 🌧️ raining since 2013
so much wonderful information, thank you
Why don't you just go and ask evolutionary Archaeologists about their findings climate change(s) over the last few million years. Or just look at some vid's on You Tube ? Like Carta.
Come and live where I live near the Tropics..and then lecture me about not using air-conditioner. It’s a must in the medical sense of the term for more than half the year.
Until such time as ALL of you, learn the difference between climate and weather, you will continue to spin your wheels in the muck and mire.
You refer to heat waves as climate events... THEY ARE NOT! Heat waves are weather events! As are all the other weather phenomena you all insist on calling climate, so you can cunningly undermine and corrupt the meaning of the terms, to the point that everyone conflates climate and weather and Bob's your uncle. Everyone thinks weather is climate. I'm here to tell you that climate and weather are completely disparate, with completely different heat sources. It is high time you learned the difference.
According to geologic historical records, our climate changes at a rate of about 0.5 C. over a period of about 30 years. The difference between day and night temperatures is about 15 -20 C. The seasonal temperature change is about 30 C. every 6 months. There are also a plethora of other factors that affect temperature and weather, like geography, terrain, floral, latitude, etc., etc. At the rate of change of about 0.5 C. per 30 years, climate is indisputably the least significant factor in any weather event, anywhere on the planet. And there is absolutely no way on Earth to determine what part climate plays in any weather event, ever and anyone that claims they can tell the influence of climate change on any weather event, is a bald-faced liar, a fraud and probably a crook. Weather events tells us absolutely nothing about climate.
Climate and weather are two disparate phenomena because they each have their own source of heat. One heat source travels across the surface constantly changing in intensity, just like the weather it generates. The other is steady and constant and takes millions of years to change temperature because it takes a long time to heat or cool a mass the size of the Earth. You just can't do it over night and thank God for that because if the internal furnace of this planet were not as steady and stable as it is, life as we know it, would not exist here. The more you learn about this very unique planet, the more you come to understand that we are probably, the first sentient lifeform, in the whole universe.
Subterranean deep bore hole temperature data shows quite clearly, that the subsurface temperature, below which the temperatures never change, is equivalent to, the mean annual surface temperature at any geographical location, which is exactly the same as the calculation for climate. There can be no mistake about the source of climate heat and all the hard data backs it up.