Politicians are something we've somehow normalized. The politicians created the climate for the corporations to become to big to be accountable, now the emissions from container ships are the consumers responsibility. I wonder, is it people, or governments, military and corporations that have accelerated climate change? We put beef on container ships to China, they dehydrate it, put it in a Styrofoam cup with some noodles, and it goes back on the container ship to where it came from. This can go on, but your cars emissions are a sin.
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The interviewer is obviously biased and does NOT want to listen to Professor Lindzen's reasonable argument. ALARMISM has become a very popular position, without examining the real facts.
@@georgwachberg1242 What we have now is global Lyesinkoism. it's sad but this is how marxist think they will control the planet. What we should prepare for is the coming grand solar minimum. In the past grand solar minimums have killed many from starvation and disease. The big elephant in the room that is not included in climate models is the sun and it's cycles.
It's a freaking religion. It has a dogma and proselytizes it. You don't believe it Bill Nye will put you in the gulag for reeducation. If that doesn't work you'll get the final solution.
@@georgwachberg1242 But he is NOT denying it, he is merely raising the issue of how much climate change can be proven to be caused by mankind, as opposed to natural temperature variations, and what can we practically do about it, short of plunging the world into an economic catastrophe. It's all fine and dandy running around screaming that climate change is a huge problem, but that doesn't fix anything does it? There is no substitute for coal powered electricity plants, apart from nuclear at the moment, and in most western countries that same people running around protesting about climate change will protest at the the mere mention of building a nuclear power station, what's your suggestion?
I agree, so far 15 minutes into the "debate" all the interviewer is doing is using an appeal to authority rather than asking about the science and the proof. Interviewer interupts and is absolutely not interested in the answers.
What I think is hilarious is the fact that NONE of these Deniers (and I use the word with all it's connotations) has been prepared to put their money where their mouth is when challenged. There have been offers of Wagers, they all passed, A Climate modeller (has to know and understand all the science and current research to be able to design a valid model) by the name of Annan already has a $10,000 wager made 12 years ago that he will collect in 2019 with 2 Russian physicists who believed that the Solar minimum we have been entering for the last couple of decades would cool the planet, Annan bet that the CO2 ensured it wouldn't. He is winning hands down, even with the commencement being 1998. Lidzen made an emphatic challenge/statement on a TV interview back then that he would bet anyone any amount that the Earth would be cooling, Annan said hey My pension savings could do with a boost so he took Lindzen up on his challenge for $10,000. Linzen would only accept at 50/1 odds, i.e Annan put $10,000 into escrow and Lindzen only risks the price of a restaurant meal ($200) into escrow. Annan challenged all the above deniers to the same wagers and they all declined. Apart from Annan there have been many others trying to make wagers with these frauds, but they all refuse to put their money where their mouth is
He covers a plethora of topics. One who covers more international level topics as question/answers scheme is much more better for informative purposes and experts or those who studied those things are better for practical designations. Impacts and effects of such activities seem to be better understood.
The proffessor was clearly a rational and logical thinker. Spoke so clearly...when he could get a word in. He asked some very telling questions that were never answered and made some observations that were totally ignored. That interviewer should be sent back to journalism kindegarden.
I would have like to hear Dr. Lindzen complete his thoughts but it became obvious that our commentator was ardent to not let that happen. Mr. Commentator, your days are numbered.
@@Columbusappraiser I see a what you mean. Why would anyone employ this person as an interviewer. He has no idea and pushes his own agenda rather than enticing answers.
@@khyreedwards1228 So to do that he must know the correct answers to the questions about the impact of climate change and so must you. What scares you about the opinion of others? How do you know the impact and causes of climate cahnge and what have you studied an applied to become a worthwhile person to listen to?
Josh Miller - There is a lot to be said for the comments section, the debates are often as good if not better than the video. There are a lot of intelligent beings out there. ✌️✊🏼🌅
Michael Stanton - Yeah but, I suspect he is used to much more aggression than he got at this debate. After all as we saw here, there is a frenzy about the subject that in my opinion/ experience (I was 20 when I first heard of global warming, I’m 60 no) is the reason we haven’t go far at all in reducing CO2. My belief is we have to do away with corruption and then we as the human race could actually achieve something worthwhile!
I enjoyed the debate.I am in a process of finding out the scientific facts and their interpretation before forming a final opinion. At the moment I feel we shouldn't take any chances despite the financial downside.I hate the politicalization of this debate but I guess this is inevitable
The host of this debate should never ever be allowed to host again. Not only was he obnoxious, interruptive & argumentative to a fault but he was clearly biased toward the "global warming" rhetoric & paradigm that supposedly nearly all scientists agree on (who are members or contributors to the UN created IPCC). The IPCC member scientist in this debate said something (ironically) that made pure sense. "We can all agre the current policies on this are futile" admitting that their political agendas & forced strategies will never work as they stand & therefore they are completely & utterly inept. Otherwise a decent debate all be it a heavily leaning toward the propaganda "global warming" is going to destroy the earth & sink our coastal cities. In 30 years time we will all see the rubbish that was fear mongered apon us and wonder why we got something so wrong again! Wake up and realize that just because the UN, governments with clear agendas & sonsored scientists with vested interests claim something... it does NOT in anyway make it a forgone conclusion.
*Collective alarmists,* "Alarm, alarm, alarm, alarm, alarm, straw man, alarm, alarm ... " *Prof Lindzen,* "Let's try to be objective and rational" *Collective alarmists,* "yes, but alarm ,alarm, alarm, alarm, straw man, catastrophy, alarm, alarm, alarm.... " *Prof Lindzen,* "let's try to be objective and rational" *Collective alarmists,* "yes, but alarm, alarm, alarm alarm, straw man, panic, alarm, alarm alarm .... " ..... and so every "debate" regarding AGW and C02 catastrophism goes ad infinitum. This cycle of approach regarding debates such as this should make every thinking person with a working BS detector raise an eyebrow at minimum.
@@nermalk2350 If you think that, you had already takeb some sort of side. He effectively stopped any intelligent discourse taking place. and ruined what could have been a brilliantly informative debate. Theae are complex issues, 'save the planet' one-liners and stupid questions from audience members who just want to make a point, instead of taking the opportunity to ask a deep question we can all learn from does not help anyone or anything. I watched this to learn things I didn't already know, and learned nothing - the only people who knew what they were talking about were subjected to constantly interruptions when answering. But we all make mistakes, we are human, so I just hope the interviewer did learn from this rather poor debate.
Everything that is happening in climate change has happened before including having the earth almost covered completely in ice. Global warming which is the main reason for the hysteria that has gripped society but it is much better for society then global cooling which could start tomorrow.
The people who go along with the Al Gore and his climate change scam get rewards from governments for supporting the global climate change by man because government can have more control over society to save mankind and animals from extinction from carbon dioxide and global warming that isn't true.
Unfortunately, Richard Lindzen is a professional climate scientist and not a "celebrity" therefore his presentation skills are not great. The interviewer really treated him badly though.
@@phillipbridge5009 From the other side he's tired of science denialists trying to steal the debate. Especially one's paid by big oil... Anywho, just thought I'd share the majority of the world's view here. You lot have fun with whatever this is you're doing here. Have a great day!
Read my comment and check my sources. You will get the answers about abrupt global climate change from the voices in the doomasphere and of course, very good RUclips channels.
This was a very good debate on this important issue! The facilitator did a good job challenging on issues and allowing debate! So important to be open on this issue!
The host is just being political, and he's just interrupting and browbeating. Lindzen is trying to talk about data. The host is just trying to be political.
This is an example of poor production but it's poor probably because of the ego and celebrity of the host who has a large media presence and ubiquity on the global media. Most producers would not be supported by their programme editors if they tried to question the host's behaviour or script due to the hosts's celebrity.
@@tonywilliams7147 this show is Called literally “head to head” as I’m he goes head to head with his guests and ask them tough questions. You see it in the other videos in the series
xenon127 devil s advocate is a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments. Stupid xenon127
@@japandata That they can actually be honest for once ofcourse? At 18:40 the interviewer points to something Lindzen said earlier that isnt there cause it's been cut out. This is insane actually.
The interviewer or moderator is unintelligent the way he pause the prof. Prof has a very strong argument and instead of the moderator to let him expatiate on issues because he doesn't understand would rather pause the prof.
When the Vikings found Greenland it was green lush and beautifull. Then after three hundred years it grew cold and eventually froze over. In medeavil times Europe was very warm for three hundred years. Hot enough to grow vineyards in Scotland all year round. There was a mini ice age in the 1700s when the river Thames froze over. There is nothing new under the sun@
The southernmost point of Greenland has been green for a long time, but the vast majority of total land has been under thick ice sheets for at least 400,000 years. That little spot did used to be bigger during that time, but climate eventually shifted and the ice sheets came back and forced them to leave their villages and ultimately return to Iceland.
one of the worst interview I have ever seen, intsead of letting the professor to present his reseach and if necessary challenge his arguments ,this guy didn't let him speak and killed all the conversation with useless statistal remarks
If I invited you to my house to hear what you had to say, but then cut you off every time you began speaking (time and time again) so that you couldn't get a word in edge ways, you would pribably assume one of three things: Either 1 I already HAD my agenda and only wanted to use your presence as a springboard, 2 I didn't care AT ALL about your opinion (even though you are a published and acclaimed scientist from a reputable institution, or 3 I was simply a RUDE, fast-talking TV personality, with no manners. (And then there's also, of course, 4 I was so AFRAID of people hearing the truth in what you had to say that I felt called upon to drown you out by talking louder, faster and constantly changing the subject. Welcome to journalism 101!
Trump is beyond political he is a denier and permanently on campaign mode for his ego, and his comments are so unscientific with headless comments via tweets. Anything that crazy brain comes up must be pathetically ludicrous
As soon as the moderator mentioned the IPCC, I knew this was going to be a stacked interview as well as an interview void of fact. Notice all the interrupting by the moderator . . . and the editing of the video is ridiculous.
@@OMGAnotherday The discussion was viewed as a challenge and the guy (prof) isn't smart enough to be able to argue intelligently because the facts are not on his side.
Jerry Lynch - Jerry, I’m afraid that it is very disappointing when people like you dismiss a discussion, the subject is not a closed shop, the subject belongs to everyone on the planet, so all points are valid. Professor made some very interesting points and one of them was, what steps are we taking, (as he said himself) regardless of whether he is right or wrong, and I personally would have liked to have heard more from the professor!
@@OMGAnotherday All points backed up by evidence and reviewed by the rigors of science are valid. Some qualifications needed. The science is very simple, even Lindzen agrees the fundamentals aren't contested. AGW *is* real, everyone in this forum agreed with that. He's here arguing about the sensitivity and potential impact.
Cani Terrae - Yes I know, that’s why I wanted to be able to hear more from him! And by the way, the science is not “very simple,” it’s one of the most complex scientific problems the human race has faced. So dismissing a learned professor, no matter what you might think about what he is saying is just stupidity.
Kevin Skipper No, I have no need listening to egos quarrel to delude themselves they're right - with a heavily biased arbitration - especially since the debate/quarrel is entirely moot. Only symbolic gestures will be made until the alleged problem perhaps becomes undeniable. That is just how politics works. I have my own evaluation and it's probably right as usual, but that doesn't matter either - not beyond a small group of friends and relatives who value my take on things. I'm want to being right so early on about a whole slew of developments, I gradually lost the will to try to convince others and restricted myself to formulate a comprehensible outline in order to initiate awareness with those, who were ready and motivated for battle. I also don't consider the sport of making predictions much more than adult infantilism - when it comes to public debates and politics. In real science, predicting can act as a test of validity of theory, of course, but in real life entirely different forces and conditions are at play. One important dynamic often ignored is the feedback mechanism between the motive for - and the effect of - any prediction, which nevertheless quite often leads to the paradox of the best predictions nullifying themselves, leading to the possible later interpretation, that "we thought the problem serious, but our concern turned out to be exaggerated" ;) How do we even know afterwards if some apparently sufficient measures were really necessary? Scenarios we couldn't imagine might have played out (leading to conditions half would deem better, the other half worse) had we acted differently, but might in any case already have changed the future in ways nobody could foresee - even to such a degree as to change the number of available options later on. And again people differ: Some prefer less options and a paved road - others are forever off-roaders looking for untried solutions...
Decimus Rex Seems you didn't read or understand my explanation. You can go back an read it above and find that your question has been answered already...
Hallands Menved it's his show, and he is the host he can do what he likes. Mehdi mostly interrupts when the person says something wrong, or if he has something to say about what the person said.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this interviewer the same one that told dawkins that he believes that Mohommed went to heaven on a winged horse? WTF?
Yes, Medhi Hasan, it's the same man. The story as I remember it was that Muhammad ascended to the moon on a flying horse and then split the moon in 2 with his sword. Which seems entirely plausible. Hasan couldn't understand Dawkins' reaction of incredulity after he'd said it. I watched that vid you're referring to and it caused me to spit beer onto my keyboard when he came out with that it was so funny.
+Wolato That's not the story, next time check your facts in order to be taken more seriously. And the argument presented here is ad hominem; it doesn't matter what the interviewer believes or what his religious beliefs are. He's presenting valid arguments about climate change and that's what you should be concerned about, not what he believes about something complete irrelevant.
That was the point of this interviewer, to frustrate him i to saying that. Probably as a character assasination, so he could "lose" People like u. He has been open in other discussions with his opinions regarding the far left hijacking this movement. And they have. The left struck gold with this "climate change" mess. They finally found a way to heavily tax an natural gas everybody is dependent on. Now they continue too ramp the fear up, so they can tax even more.
@@karljonsson5577 Didn't read all 351 pages of agenda21 word for word. I did skim though and I don't see the problem you're having with it. Can you be specific?
Won't stop the ice ages every 100,000 years or so. We are rapidly approaching one the total opposite of what these media cretins say Lies have consequences and this lie is abhorant beyond morality alone.They are complicit from top to bottom.Carbon is the life of this planet more is needed.Inversions at this level? Will never be forgiven.When people know the truth however will they trust anyone in power again!.
I wish Mendi would shut up for a minute and let the experts answer the question he asked. His question would take 2 minutes to ask, then he would interrupt the person answering. In every head to head it's the same.
Lol are you serious? Of course you pick up such a detail thing that mostly seems to made up in your head. Mehdi basically without exception didn't interfere anything Professor Lindzen said. If you disagree please tell me the exact time in the clip. I understand you try grap onto anything in the video to distract focus from the fact even "the best" climate denier can't put up anything credible. If I were you I would for example start whining how Prof Lindzen was laughing at times to Mehdi's questions while Mehdi stayed perfectly calm. But then again, I'm not like you.
@@ArnoldSig So you are a Believer. Anyone whom starts to study Anthropogenic warming with an unbiased opinion mostly will know that truly the theory has failed.
29:07 absolute gold. A perfect example of how the interviewer relinquishes his objectivity in favor of intensity, and yet the subject of his interview remains calm and collected. This interviewer has an obvious agenda and it’s really annoying.
He’s not there to be neutral lol. Have you ever watched this program before? He’s always taking an opposing stance… the title is “head to head” lmao! That’s the point
The interviewer believes Mohamed rode on a winged horse to the moon. Literally. Richard Lindzen is a professor in climatology at MIT. You decide who to believe.
I like how dense the interviewer is. He tried to accuse Richard of not believing the planet is warming just because he's skeptical of the doomsday scenario that this issue is responsible for.
If it pleases you to ignore warnings, where changes in our infrastructure or policies here and abroad, can make an effective improvement, then fine, call it "doomsday " meme. There are ice core samples that verify the industrial age influence in carbon output, in Norway or Sweden. I've witnessed changes in my own hometown. Any farmer would give you examples, and concerns. This smug, deflecting "scientist" loses credibility with me, simply from his dull thinking. The extreme melting if Antarctica shows he is ignorant of the degree of global warming advancement.
@@cambriawellness3102 What you are saying does not make C02 warm the planet uncontrollably. You should view the GISP ice core temp results and then restate your sentiments. The are many or most farmers that have the opposite opinion as C02 is beneficial to them. Lindzen is not an alarmist, is that your problem with him as he is an atmospheric physicist and more qualified than any of the alarmists in the IPCC and there are good climatologists in the IPCC but they don't get to voice the science as they will be agreeing with Lindzen.
No scientist has said "We have to go back to the stone age." What has been said is we have to do what we do in a much more sustainable way, that doesn't impact on earth's climate negatively. Also climate change should NEVER BE an "ideological debate." Debate SHOULD ALWAYS be based on FACT!!!
Ah yes , that word “SUSTAINABLE” again … And what exactly does “SUSTAINABLE” mean again ? Why , anything the governments wish for it to mean ! What a joke
Dr. Lindzen has such a vast understanding of dozens of underlying sciences relative to global warming. He can be trusted and if he saw real trends of concern he would proudly state what they are, and why. He's ambiguous because the science is.
bring on an expert, ask him a question, then interupt him to tell him what a politicaly driven organisation says - nice interview technique Medhi. And he still made you sound like a fool in a relaxed and calm manor.
One of the best contributions came at the end by a member of the audience. To paraphrase: he presented Professor Lindzen with two propositions; climate change is not man-made & climate change is man-made. If it is, then thousands (more like millions) of people will die & that these will be the poorest & most vulnerable. He then asked whether Professor Lindzen could take that on his conscience & what his threshold for action is. The professor answered by saying that it depends on the response (action) & if its's purely symbolic then we'd better think of a better way to help these people. This is the whole point of the debate. It's not about certainty. It's about what we are doing imposes risks of catastrophe on large numbers of people. These risks should & can be avoided & to do this we have to change. There are plenty of opportunities such as by transitioning away from fossil fuels. For example, putting solar on peoples roofs. Roof solar has great financial payback & would create many jobs.
The biggest misunderstanding about this topic in Oceans rising - they did not rise anymore that just erosion from the land if that is even a problem. Plants need CO2 to grow - any extra gas would help make more O2? If the planet doubled CO2 - it would still be 1% of the biggest global warming gas: Water vapor. If you want to stop global warming: We need to stop water from getting into the environment.
The problem is land is sinking. Land sinks when we use too much of the water in aquifers and by taking oil and gas from stored pockets in the strata. Also in relating to volcanic zones, as zones move there's no longer the heat uplift.
The ice sheets on Antarctica are said to be really high over land. Meaning they are pushing the land down. So we could see water level rise if the covered land areas melt completely. If it's an iceberg, yes it's already floating in water so no issue there.
@@lightdark00 land also sinks from the mass on top of them. This is why Mt. Everest cannot grow much taller than what it already is. As it grows in size and weight it sinks further into the mantle and liquifies
@@jamalalqassem8747 What are you going on about? My comment was about the interviewer's style in this video only. Who cares what his, mine or your skin color is, not me. Be Happy
We in asia live happier then yr countries and the fact is all this climate change caused by developed countries like yours!! Please plant more trees in yr country so that you will not depend on us to breath.
@@rayridhuan3729 I have lived in Asia from India to Indonesia for the past 30 years after being a wilderness guide in my home country. Always have and continue to plant trees and clear the brush from the trails I use. I was talking about the interviewers style not the person. Take a break and be happy.
Ray Ridhuan first off climate change is all about control and money why do you think they're putting a carbon tax as if that will change anything als they are telling us we should go vegan to make us weaker they tell us to not have kids depopulation do you see how maybe just maybe the elite want to control us (im not a communist) secondly India China and Africa are top poulterers thirdly There's no way third world people are happy and 1s world countrys in Asia are just full of censorship no freedom of speech lack of liberty
Where were they polled? “You tell me where they were polled!” ... That’s not how presenting evidence works, “No! You tell me where I get my data” haha.
One thing I can agree for sure with this man is that in the end we are not willing to do the changes we need to do. We need to decrease development not just change the way we do it to make any real change.
Kevin, I think the CO2 alarmism is a psychological operation to destroy the credibility of those of us who desire a socialist democracy. Money is behind CO2 alarmism and money is against the "Left".
When discussing the Islands disappearing, the culprit is always "rising" sea levels what about the other known natural phenomenon for instance tectonic effects, subsidance (settling of the volcanic substrait), severe storms resulting in erossion, human impact on the shoreline etc.
I found this interview debate alarming! I came here thinking that after months of research into who has said what and possibly why...I'd witness a 'denier' evading questions and spouting twaddle. Instead, a remarkably authentic academic calmly presenting his view, that he can't say for certain either way. And why. And evasion and contrived polyspeak twaddle from his supposed 'in the concensus majority' adversaries. I want to know if the president of the Maldives asked his 'consultant' exactly how many of his citizens would be losing their livelihoods or their lives as a result of his 1 ton of CO2 emissions. If the consultant believes AGW is true?. "To fly all that way just to tell me? No email address then? If the garage mechanic drives up to my house, in my car, and quotes some alarmist figure to get it going again, I would suspect something is up. The Information Superhighway/Facebook/Cloud servers use as much energy now, as the whole planet did in 1973. Then you shall be given a small boat and a copy of 'Mutiny on the Bounty'."... ...."Sorry, I need the compass, check for magnetic anomalies." Very disappointed, I was about to join the Extinction Rebellion.
I would love to know what the professor had to say but every time he explained something he was cut off and argued at by the interviewer who entirely missed or dismissed the point.
I'm not sure we watched the same video. He did have a chance to answer it, it is ONLY when he DIGRESSED that he was kept on track. This is how a host should act. Furthermore, they have only alotted a total of 60 minutes for every episode and with a 10 minute break it comes down to about 50 minutes. With such a slow talker like this professor, the host is FORCED to cut him off for going on long rants. With such little time and so much to go through, as a host of a debate, you have to move on. Jheez go watch netflix, this is not a kid show.
Always nice to hear from the skeptics, however what I surmise is we all agree on the fact that the house is on fire and we're sitting around arguing about whether it was due to lightning hitting the roof or uncle Harry falling asleep with a cigarette in his hand. It seems to me we should do whatever we can to put the fire out before the house burns to the ground.
No there no fire it's all in your head Can l suggest you study the past and you will see ice age then you see warm times Now tell me why did this happens your only answer is thats nature NO human caused this So if it's happening now thats nature Simple really DON'T be scared of fossel fuel yer what does 97%off scientist beleive climate change mean What has that got to do with science l would rather see scientist questioning climate change not all agreeing on it you are not zombie all you have to do is THINK
So how do you explain global warming and by now half the coast is supposed to be under water and that was now 20 years ago or is it 40 years now? This science has been politically taken over from real climatologists. I think more money from the left agenda is being given to the climate change lovers.
The interviewer is a biased and purchased it. It should not be doing job. It does not even really understand topic. Very poor at job because if good at job people would believe it and not notice, but i see that everyone has noticed so no good at job. Waste of pay to it.
Dr. Richard Lindzen has a good cadence for discussion. A highly charged debate that just throws hype and accusations at a rapid anxious rate does not engender a thoughtful discussion.
One thing he is right about is that humankind is largely irresponsible. 45:55 deniers don't want to do anything unless they are personally affected and in their terms.
Some underlying objective truths; 1. People can live indefinitely in environments that range between roughly 40 degrees F and 95 degrees F (4 and 35 degrees C), ‘if ’ the latter temperature occurs at no more than 50 percent relative humidity. The maximum temperature pushes upward when it's less humid, because lower water content in the air makes it easier to sweat, and thus, keep cool (wet bulb temperatures). 2. For plants, including the major crops (of which over 70% of total nutritional intake come from 3 crops), the limits are more finely balanced. Transpiration is the process by which moisture is carried through plants from roots to small pores on the underside of leaves, where it changes to vapor and is released to the atmosphere. This is how nutrient uptake occurs and is essential for plant viability. Sustained periods at temperatures of 40C or higher where humidity is also high and/or evening do not cool sufficiently becomes non-viable 3. As the atmospheric CO2 level increases above 400ppm, the nutritional content of most major crops start to decrease. As does human cognitive functions. We have now hit 410ppm. 4. Atmospheric CO2 emits an increasing amount of infrared energy, 0.2 Watts per square meter per decade. Roughly, this means CO2 achieves maximum efficiency as a GHG, 10 years after initial emission. 5. Water vapor in the troposhere accounts for the most GHG in the atmosphere. Atmospheric water vapor increases by roughly 7% per 1 degree C of warming. Australia just reported 1 degree anomaly from 1910 - 2018 in their annual state of the climate report. 6. In the first decade or so after its release, methane is 86x more potent than carbon dioxide, with an initial burst effect. It then decays into carbon dioxide (reacts with negatively charged Hydroxyl ions), where it persists for centuries. 7. Nitrous Oxide, N2O is roughly 300x times more potent as a GHG than CO2 and is emitted via microbial release, primarily from use of fertilizers and dairy farming and other industrial activity. 8. Sulphur hexafluoride, SF6 is widely used in the electrical industry to prevent short circuits (wind, solar and the like). It has the highest GHG potential of any known substance, 23,500x more potent than CO2. Being synthetic with no natural pathway for removal, it persists as a GHG for over 1000 years, yet 75% growth in emissions is predicted by 2030. 9. More than 90% of the warming that has happened on Earth over the last 50 years or so has occurred in the oceans. 10. The same amount of energy required to melt 1kg of ice at 0 degrees C to produce 1kg of water (phase transition), could be used to raise the temperature of that 1kg of water from 0 degrees C to 79.8 degrees C. 11. Solar irradiation has been decreasing, as measured against the 11 year average, since around 1980. It will start to increase, although overall, it is of little net effect (whether considering Milankovitch or sun spot cycles).
Let's bring Prof. Lindzen on and not let him answer any substantive questions instead just make him defend himself against loaded questions. This is why the mainstream media is dying. If Lindzen were on the Joe Rogan show it would be much better time spent.
Just a few minutes ago I heard an academic state she had resigned from her university because research funding was only being granted for projects that were examining the detrimental effects of human behaviour on climate change. This might explain why 900+ research papers agreed. Having read hundreds of medical research papers, I can say I have never found ten papers papers on the same subject that measure the exact same thing sufficient to allow that level of comparison. I think the issue of climate change needs to be debated but it is dangerous when lay people challenge scientists who know their subject. This interviewer started out very aggressive but did tone it down a tad when challenged by scientists in the audience.
Nobody talks about the 2000 nuclear warheads that have been detonated in the last 50 years. Apparently this has nothing to do with climate change or global warming.
Any hope at finding the truth, whatever it may be, was lost as soon as climate change became a political issue.
And a money making issue.
@@kitemanmusic - To find the truth just follow the money
@@Stu_Yorkie The money leads to big energy.
Very true statement! Once it's political its controlled for an agenda.
Politicians are something we've somehow normalized. The politicians created the climate for the corporations to become to big to be accountable, now the emissions from container ships are the consumers responsibility. I wonder, is it people, or governments, military and corporations that have accelerated climate change? We put beef on container ships to China, they dehydrate it, put it in a Styrofoam cup with some noodles, and it goes back on the container ship to where it came from. This can go on, but your cars emissions are a sin.
The interviewer is obviously biased and does NOT want to listen to Professor Lindzen's reasonable argument.
ALARMISM has become a very popular position, without examining the real facts.
go to the academy of science in pretty much every country, go to the NASA homepage, read peer reviewed journal.
@@georgwachberg1242 What we have now is global Lyesinkoism. it's sad but this is how marxist think they will control the planet. What we should prepare for is the coming grand solar minimum. In the past grand solar minimums have killed many from starvation and disease. The big elephant in the room that is not included in climate models is the sun and it's cycles.
@@georgwachberg1242 Science as a majority has been wrong before. It's not unheard of.
It's a freaking religion. It has a dogma and proselytizes it. You don't believe it Bill Nye will put you in the gulag for reeducation. If that doesn't work you'll get the final solution.
@@georgwachberg1242
But he is NOT denying it, he is merely raising the issue of how much climate change can be proven to be caused by mankind, as opposed to natural temperature variations, and what can we practically do about it, short of plunging the world into an economic catastrophe.
It's all fine and dandy running around screaming that climate change is a huge problem, but that doesn't fix anything does it?
There is no substitute for coal powered electricity plants, apart from nuclear at the moment, and in most western countries that same people running around protesting about climate change will protest at the the mere mention of building a nuclear power station, what's your suggestion?
it's the most absurd debate. The interviewer is immensely misfit in this debate; he foolishly tries to argue about the subject he hardly knows.
I agree, so far 15 minutes into the "debate" all the interviewer is doing is using an appeal to authority rather than asking about the science and the proof. Interviewer interupts and is absolutely not interested in the answers.
LOL, yeah, he has a history of been an awful interviewer.
What I think is hilarious is the fact that NONE of these Deniers (and I use the word with all it's connotations) has been prepared to put their money where their mouth is when challenged.
There have been offers of Wagers, they all passed, A Climate modeller (has to know and understand all the science and current research to be able to design a valid model) by the name of Annan already has a $10,000 wager made 12 years ago that he will collect in 2019 with 2 Russian physicists who believed that the Solar minimum we have been entering for the last couple of decades would cool the planet, Annan bet that the CO2 ensured it wouldn't. He is winning hands down, even with the commencement being 1998.
Lidzen made an emphatic challenge/statement on a TV interview back then that he would bet anyone any amount that the Earth would be cooling, Annan said hey My pension savings could do with a boost so he took Lindzen up on his challenge for $10,000. Linzen would only accept at 50/1 odds, i.e Annan put $10,000 into escrow and Lindzen only risks the price of a restaurant meal ($200) into escrow.
Annan challenged all the above deniers to the same wagers and they all declined.
Apart from Annan there have been many others trying to make wagers with these frauds, but they all refuse to put their money where their mouth is
He covers a plethora of topics. One who covers more international level topics as question/answers scheme is much more better for informative purposes and experts or those who studied those things are better for practical designations. Impacts and effects of such activities seem to be better understood.
Kind of like giving a loaded machine gun to a Chimpanse?
What a terrible interviewer. Only wants to hear the sound of his own voice.
@William Kiene silly whitey
His questions were a highlight for me. The professor seemed ambivalent most of the time.
The proffessor was clearly a rational and logical thinker. Spoke so clearly...when he could get a word in. He asked some very telling questions that were never answered and made some observations that were totally ignored. That interviewer should be sent back to journalism kindegarden.
The interviewer is totally bombastic. I found myself repeatedly saying "For goodness sake shut up!"
That's just his interviewing style, that's what the program is supposed to do. He is supposed to press his guests.
I think everybody is getting a chance to speak.
This classic symphony wants to be like Epstein. The cream of western world who blames others for other problems lol
@@rafay8516 its not an Interview.
They are debating.
And how islamic?
@TheClassicalSymphony Why do u have to bring religion into this? stop generalizing
I would have like to hear Dr. Lindzen complete his thoughts but it became obvious that our commentator was ardent to not let that happen. Mr. Commentator, your days are numbered.
Wow. The interviewer doesn't want answers shown by his lack of allowing anyone to fully answer.
Yep agreed. - first 5 minutes I thought so myself !. - After another 10 minutes I can confirm the interviewer Is an idiot .
That's his M.O., I've seen him in action in other interviews
@@Columbusappraiser I see a what you mean. Why would anyone employ this person as an interviewer. He has no idea and pushes his own agenda rather than enticing answers.
no, He doesn't want to spread propaganda, and lies
@@khyreedwards1228 So to do that he must know the correct answers to the questions about the impact of climate change and so must you. What scares you about the opinion of others? How do you know the impact and causes of climate cahnge and what have you studied an applied to become a worthwhile person to listen to?
I admire the professor's patience with the interviewer.
The interviewer has faulty genes, which explains why he is doing so bad at listening to the professor.
The interviewer needs to shut up. He destroyed his own interview by endless interrupttions
What are you talking about. He is debating him. Not interviewing him
Just as well professor Lindzen is a calm person, he hardly got to finish any of his answers!
Thanks to the comment section I didn't waste 47 minutes.
Josh Miller - There is a lot to be said for the comments section, the debates are often as good if not better than the video.
There are a lot of intelligent beings out there.
✌️✊🏼🌅
L N you can see he’s frustrated when he folded his arms just after being interrupted again.
Michael Stanton - Yeah but, I suspect he is used to much more aggression than he got at this debate. After all as we saw here, there is a frenzy about the subject that in my opinion/ experience (I was 20 when I first heard of global warming, I’m 60 no) is the reason we haven’t go far at all in reducing CO2.
My belief is we have to do away with corruption and then we as the human race could actually achieve something worthwhile!
I enjoyed the debate.I am in a process of finding out the scientific facts and their interpretation before forming a final opinion. At the moment I feel we shouldn't take any chances despite the financial downside.I hate the politicalization of this debate but I guess this is inevitable
What a shocking interviewer. He continually interrupted and would not listen to anyone.
Yes I agree
I can't stand people like that.
That is how you bully the agenda and the audience.
The interviewer should bo\e fired.
@@DeliciousDeBlair exactly
Really unprofessional moderator
He's a biased liar.
He's talking to a mob. A hysterical mob. They don't care what he says.
He is the least intelligent person in the whole room. Better to have a scientists interview him than a hysterical politically motivated interviewer.
The host of this debate should never ever be allowed to host again. Not only was he obnoxious, interruptive & argumentative to a fault but he was clearly biased toward the "global warming" rhetoric & paradigm that supposedly nearly all scientists agree on (who are members or contributors to the UN created IPCC). The IPCC member scientist in this debate said something (ironically) that made pure sense. "We can all agre the current policies on this are futile" admitting that their political agendas & forced strategies will never work as they stand & therefore they are completely & utterly inept. Otherwise a decent debate all be it a heavily leaning toward the propaganda "global warming" is going to destroy the earth & sink our coastal cities. In 30 years time we will all see the rubbish that was fear mongered apon us and wonder why we got something so wrong again! Wake up and realize that just because the UN, governments with clear agendas & sonsored scientists with vested interests claim something... it does NOT in anyway make it a forgone conclusion.
Amazing! When he introduced a member of the audience who sided with the scientist he cut him off quickly and never went back to him again!
We want to hear the Professor talking, however never gets chance to fully answer a question, the interviewer buts in & does more talking
*Collective alarmists,* "Alarm, alarm, alarm, alarm, alarm, straw man, alarm, alarm ... "
*Prof Lindzen,* "Let's try to be objective and rational"
*Collective alarmists,* "yes, but alarm ,alarm, alarm, alarm, straw man, catastrophy, alarm, alarm, alarm.... "
*Prof Lindzen,* "let's try to be objective and rational"
*Collective alarmists,* "yes, but alarm, alarm, alarm alarm, straw man, panic, alarm, alarm alarm .... "
..... and so every "debate" regarding AGW and C02 catastrophism goes ad infinitum. This cycle of approach regarding debates such as this should make every thinking person with a working BS detector raise an eyebrow at minimum.
Yet Again medhi husan is a pro
@@nermalk2350 If you think that, you had already takeb some sort of side. He effectively stopped any intelligent discourse taking place. and ruined what could have been a brilliantly informative debate. Theae are complex issues, 'save the planet' one-liners and stupid questions from audience members who just want to make a point, instead of taking the opportunity to ask a deep question we can all learn from does not help anyone or anything. I watched this to learn things I didn't already know, and learned nothing - the only people who knew what they were talking about were subjected to constantly interruptions when answering. But we all make mistakes, we are human, so I just hope the interviewer did learn from this rather poor debate.
Everything that is happening in climate change has happened before including having the earth almost covered completely in ice. Global warming which is the main reason for the hysteria that has gripped society but it is much better for society then global cooling which could start tomorrow.
The people who go along with the Al Gore and his climate change scam get rewards from governments for supporting the global climate change by man because government can have more control over society to save mankind and animals from extinction from carbon dioxide and global warming that isn't true.
Unfortunately, Richard Lindzen is a professional climate scientist and not a "celebrity"
therefore his presentation skills are not great. The interviewer really treated him badly though.
Yeah he's a horrible debater.
He's not a climate scientist, he is a geologist although he still is a scientist
The interviewer is a loud bully on the surface, but really just a puppet told what to do by the organ grinder.
The fact that he is a scientist makes his ignorance even more egregious.
@@phillipbridge5009 From the other side he's tired of science denialists trying to steal the debate. Especially one's paid by big oil...
Anywho, just thought I'd share the majority of the world's view here. You lot have fun with whatever this is you're doing here. Have a great day!
I would loved to have heard the answers, and points that all these scientists were trying to make, without being interrupted...🤔
Read my comment and check my sources. You will get the answers about abrupt global climate change from the voices in the doomasphere and of course, very good RUclips channels.
Anthony Davis there's 1900 comments here. Is that some sort of a joke?
@@lightdark00 , No.
Anthony Davis no idea how you expect people to find your comment then.
@@lightdark00 . Do your own research, don't worry about the 1900 comments.
This was a very good debate on this important issue! The facilitator did a good job challenging on issues and allowing debate! So important to be open on this issue!
The host is just being political, and he's just interrupting and browbeating. Lindzen is trying to talk about data. The host is just trying to be political.
This is an example of poor production but it's poor probably because of the ego and celebrity of the host who has a large media presence and ubiquity on the global media. Most producers would not be supported by their programme editors if they tried to question the host's behaviour or script due to the hosts's celebrity.
@@tonywilliams7147 this show is Called literally “head to head” as I’m he goes head to head with his guests and ask them tough questions. You see it in the other videos in the series
I enjoy a good debate, but a bias interviewer kills any debate.
the word is "biased"
Yes he's particularly aggressive and biased.
He said at the onset, his roll was to challenge the Climate Change denier.
@xenon127 I agree, but that did not happen as Linzen was cut short at times when points mattered.
xenon127 devil s advocate is a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments. Stupid xenon127
Why are many of Lindzens answers cut out? This seems dishonest.
And the "if your wrong the effects on the poorest countries and most vulnerable......." seems scripted and is asked similarly about 3 times
He's given a platform and a voice, when he is usually ignored. What more do you want?
@@japandata He's still ignored and seemingly censored.
probably because he started to produce facts
@@japandata That they can actually be honest for once ofcourse? At 18:40 the interviewer points to something Lindzen said earlier that isnt there cause it's been cut out. This is insane actually.
The interviewer or moderator is unintelligent the way he pause the prof. Prof has a very strong argument and instead of the moderator to let him expatiate on issues because he doesn't understand would rather pause the prof.
When the Vikings found Greenland it was green lush and beautifull. Then after three hundred years it grew cold and eventually froze over. In medeavil times Europe was very warm for three hundred years. Hot enough to grow vineyards in Scotland all year round. There was a mini ice age in the 1700s when the river Thames froze over. There is nothing new under the sun@
yes, there's no other way to explain those draughty castles in such a cold climate! haha.
And I really don’t get when you tell people this it doesn’t make them wake up to what’s happening here
@Venturing into the Brine Yes, what IS happening? I'd really like to know!
p r o b a b l y n o t h i n g
The southernmost point of Greenland has been green for a long time, but the vast majority of total land has been under thick ice sheets for at least 400,000 years. That little spot did used to be bigger during that time, but climate eventually shifted and the ice sheets came back and forced them to leave their villages and ultimately return to Iceland.
Decades ago it was written that man would control the weather. Well, this is how he’s done it so what’s all the fuss about it’s under control. 🙄
one of the worst interview I have ever seen, intsead of letting the professor to present his reseach and if necessary challenge his arguments ,this guy didn't let him speak and killed all the conversation with useless statistal remarks
Joy Bakhshi it's not an interview it's a forum .all the experts jump in
get out troll
If I invited you to my house to hear what you had to say, but then cut you off every time you began speaking (time and time again) so that you couldn't get a word in edge ways, you would pribably assume one of three things: Either
1 I already HAD my agenda and only wanted to use your presence as a springboard,
2 I didn't care AT ALL about your opinion (even though you are a published and acclaimed scientist from a reputable institution, or
3 I was simply a RUDE, fast-talking TV personality, with no manners. (And then there's also, of course,
4 I was so AFRAID of people hearing the truth in what you had to say that I felt called upon to drown you out by talking louder, faster and constantly changing the subject.
Welcome to journalism 101!
Point five. Or all of the above.
@@sherraleewoods3668
Yeah, Sherralee woods; I had forgotten how easy multiple choice IS!
Climate is real. It's been real for thousands of years.
first gl w now clim- ch
The earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old. I'm certain that there has been some sort of climate change since then..
Billions.
Well the dinosaurs didn’t really like the ice age lol
well, you're making the assumption that the Earth exists. it doesn't.
The UN is a political organ, and so is the IPCC
Trump is beyond political he is a denier and permanently on campaign mode for his ego, and his comments are so unscientific with headless comments via tweets. Anything that crazy brain comes up must be pathetically ludicrous
As soon as the moderator mentioned the IPCC, I knew this was going to be a stacked interview as well as an interview void of fact. Notice all the interrupting by the moderator . . . and the editing of the video is ridiculous.
Didn't the polar bear in the beginning make it clear?
This was more an ambush than a discussion. I would've loved to heard more from the professor - I can get the bickering and opinions on TV.
rhbruning - Agree!
@@OMGAnotherday The discussion was viewed as a challenge and the guy (prof) isn't smart enough to be able to argue intelligently because the facts are not on his side.
Jerry Lynch - Jerry, I’m afraid that it is very disappointing when people like you dismiss a discussion, the subject is not a closed shop, the subject belongs to everyone on the planet, so all points are valid.
Professor made some very interesting points and one of them was, what steps are we taking, (as he said himself) regardless of whether he is right or wrong, and I personally would have liked to have heard more from the professor!
@@OMGAnotherday All points backed up by evidence and reviewed by the rigors of science are valid. Some qualifications needed.
The science is very simple, even Lindzen agrees the fundamentals aren't contested. AGW *is* real, everyone in this forum agreed with that. He's here arguing about the sensitivity and potential impact.
Cani Terrae - Yes I know, that’s why I wanted to be able to hear more from him!
And by the way, the science is not “very simple,” it’s one of the most complex scientific problems the human race has faced. So dismissing a learned professor, no matter what you might think about what he is saying is just stupidity.
Interviewers should *never* interrupt much, but especially not just when the guest is making his points! So I left...
Kevin Skipper No, I have no need listening to egos quarrel to delude themselves they're right - with a heavily biased arbitration - especially since the debate/quarrel is entirely moot.
Only symbolic gestures will be made until the alleged problem perhaps becomes undeniable. That is just how politics works. I have my own evaluation and it's probably right as usual, but that doesn't matter either - not beyond a small group of friends and relatives who value my take on things.
I'm want to being right so early on about a whole slew of developments, I gradually lost the will to try to convince others and restricted myself to formulate a comprehensible outline in order to initiate awareness with those, who were ready and motivated for battle.
I also don't consider the sport of making predictions much more than adult infantilism - when it comes to public debates and politics. In real science, predicting can act as a test of validity of theory, of course, but in real life entirely different forces and conditions are at play.
One important dynamic often ignored is the feedback mechanism between the motive for - and the effect of - any prediction, which nevertheless quite often leads to the paradox of the best predictions nullifying themselves, leading to the possible later interpretation, that "we thought the problem serious, but our concern turned out to be exaggerated" ;)
How do we even know afterwards if some apparently sufficient measures were really necessary?
Scenarios we couldn't imagine might have played out (leading to conditions half would deem better, the other half worse) had we acted differently, but might in any case already have changed the future in ways nobody could foresee - even to such a degree as to change the number of available options later on.
And again people differ: Some prefer less options and a paved road - others are forever off-roaders looking for untried solutions...
This is not an interview but debate!
@@Hallands.
Seems you already had a preconceived idea of who is correct in this argument.
Your bias wasn't affirmed so you shut it off?
Decimus Rex Seems you didn't read or understand my explanation. You can go back an read it above and find that your question has been answered already...
Hallands Menved it's his show, and he is the host he can do what he likes. Mehdi mostly interrupts when the person says something wrong, or if he has something to say about what the person said.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this interviewer the same one that told dawkins that he believes that Mohommed went to heaven on a winged horse? WTF?
Yes, Medhi Hasan, it's the same man. The story as I remember it was that Muhammad ascended to the moon on a flying horse and then split the moon in 2 with his sword. Which seems entirely plausible. Hasan couldn't understand Dawkins' reaction of incredulity after he'd said it. I watched that vid you're referring to and it caused me to spit beer onto my keyboard when he came out with that it was so funny.
James Kidd we don't disgard Newtonian gravity because he also believed in god we go with the facts
+Wolato That's not the story, next time check your facts in order to be taken more seriously.
And the argument presented here is ad hominem; it doesn't matter what the interviewer believes or what his religious beliefs are. He's presenting valid arguments about climate change and that's what you should be concerned about, not what he believes about something complete irrelevant.
He was saying this guy believes in silly things. This could be one of those silly things too.
BlackDeath So what is the story ?
the man conducting the interview will not listen, he interrupts all the time, he's very rude.
I love this guy he is calm and measured. The interviewer is so ruďe!
He is just scared.
I support Professor Lindzen’s efforts to bring much needed balance to the debate.
FACT
The climate is always changing.
FICTION
People are responsible for the change.
If u look closer, u can see how Al Jazeera cut some of the prof. Lindzen answers out. Especially when he was about to address some critical issues ...
Sure did. If they did actually let him finish he would have mopped the floor with these clowns.
He lost me when he said there was some sort of global warming conspiracy perpetrated by someone he would rather not name.
That was the point of this interviewer, to frustrate him i to saying that. Probably as a character assasination, so he could "lose" People like u.
He has been open in other discussions with his opinions regarding the far left hijacking this movement. And they have. The left struck gold with this "climate change" mess. They finally found a way to heavily tax an natural gas everybody is dependent on. Now they continue too ramp the fear up, so they can tax even more.
@@karljonsson5577 give me a break. I'm sick and tired of every conversation being highjacked by the "far left" or the "alt right".
@@martinsanderson5240 Ok, please read through the united nations agenda 21 and agenda 2030. If that is not an far left agenda i dont know what is.
@@karljonsson5577 Didn't read all 351 pages of agenda21 word for word. I did skim though and I don't see the problem you're having with it. Can you be specific?
Sustainable development is the plan for globalisation. The world economic forum clearly states their agendas.
Carbon tax isn't going to change solar activity or moon phases,
Won't stop the ice ages every 100,000 years or so. We are rapidly approaching one the total opposite of what these media cretins say Lies have consequences and this lie is abhorant beyond morality alone.They are complicit from top to bottom.Carbon is the life of this planet more is needed.Inversions at this level? Will never be forgiven.When people know the truth however will they trust anyone in power again!.
I wish Mendi would shut up for a minute and let the experts answer the question he asked. His question would take 2 minutes to ask, then he would interrupt the person answering. In every head to head it's the same.
Lol are you serious? Of course you pick up such a detail thing that mostly seems to made up in your head. Mehdi basically without exception didn't interfere anything Professor Lindzen said. If you disagree please tell me the exact time in the clip. I understand you try grap onto anything in the video to distract focus from the fact even "the best" climate denier can't put up anything credible. If I were you I would for example start whining how Prof Lindzen was laughing at times to Mehdi's questions while Mehdi stayed perfectly calm. But then again, I'm not like you.
I think you need to watch the video again.
Joe's correct. He asks a question, the person starts answering, and he interrupts them. It's highly annoying.
@@ArnoldSig So you are a Believer. Anyone whom starts to study Anthropogenic warming with an unbiased opinion mostly will know that truly the theory has failed.
29:07 absolute gold. A perfect example of how the interviewer relinquishes his objectivity in favor of intensity, and yet the subject of his interview remains calm and collected. This interviewer has an obvious agenda and it’s really annoying.
They both have agendas and so do you..... it's a debate btw 😉
He is there to ask not agree.
He’s not there to be neutral lol. Have you ever watched this program before? He’s always taking an opposing stance… the title is “head to head” lmao! That’s the point
This is the rudest and biased interviewer I have ever seen
A total loudmouth snook.
The interviewer believes Mohamed rode on a winged horse to the moon. Literally.
Richard Lindzen is a professor in climatology at MIT.
You decide who to believe.
u!f8ppev Is that the best argument you have?
@@danzel1157 uhmm . . . yeah. Yeah. I think that's quite enough for rational people. I'm guessing you need better arguments. . . ?
@@u1f8ppev Well, yeah, I do. You assume that Mehdi Hasan believes what you say he does for a start.
silly whitey, your people believe in christianity, by far the most stupid of all the stupid religions. also, richard lindzen is a neandertal
Well how else was Mohammed supposed to get there?
I would love to hear more from the professor and none from the host...
I like how dense the interviewer is. He tried to accuse Richard of not believing the planet is warming just because he's skeptical of the doomsday scenario that this issue is responsible for.
If it pleases you to ignore warnings, where changes in our infrastructure or policies here and abroad, can make an effective improvement, then fine, call it "doomsday " meme. There are ice core samples that verify the industrial age influence in carbon output, in Norway or Sweden. I've witnessed changes in my own hometown. Any farmer would give you examples, and concerns. This smug, deflecting "scientist" loses credibility with me, simply from his dull thinking. The extreme melting if Antarctica shows he is ignorant of the degree of global warming advancement.
@@cambriawellness3102 What you are saying does not make C02 warm the planet uncontrollably. You should view the GISP ice core temp results and then restate your sentiments. The are many or most farmers that have the opposite opinion as C02 is beneficial to them. Lindzen is not an alarmist, is that your problem with him as he is an atmospheric physicist and more qualified than any of the alarmists in the IPCC and there are good climatologists in the IPCC but they don't get to voice the science as they will be agreeing with Lindzen.
No scientist has said "We have to go back to the stone age." What has been said is we have to do what we do in a much more sustainable way, that doesn't impact on earth's climate negatively. Also climate change should NEVER BE an "ideological debate." Debate SHOULD ALWAYS be based on FACT!!!
Ah yes , that word “SUSTAINABLE” again …
And what exactly does “SUSTAINABLE” mean again ?
Why , anything the governments wish for it to mean !
What a joke
Carbon is good. More carbon, more greening of the earth.
So, water is good. The more water the better? Learn to read what the actual scientists are saying.
That's moronic, with respect!
The climate change movement is a political one which has a large appeal because it fills the spiritual void of the current era.
The interviewer did a great job at avoiding questions and interrupting answers and playing tag team.
Don't worry we got 150 billion years when the ends they say
Can someone send the interviewer a burger application
Model outputs, like the IPCC mess, have been shown up. Actual measurements yield the non-alarmist position.
Dr. Lindzen has such a vast understanding of dozens of underlying sciences relative to global warming. He can be trusted and if he saw real trends of concern he would proudly state what they are, and why. He's ambiguous because the science is.
In the Maldives, the ocean isn't rising, the SANDS are SINKING.
A NATURAL occurrence due to ocean currents.
bring on an expert, ask him a question, then interupt him to tell him what a politicaly driven organisation says - nice interview technique Medhi. And he still made you sound like a fool in a relaxed and calm manor.
One of the best contributions came at the end by a member of the audience.
To paraphrase: he presented Professor Lindzen with two propositions; climate change is not man-made & climate change is man-made. If it is, then thousands (more like millions) of people will die & that these will be the poorest & most vulnerable. He then asked whether Professor Lindzen could take that on his conscience & what his threshold for action is. The professor answered by saying that it depends on the response (action) & if its's purely symbolic then we'd better think of a better way to help these people.
This is the whole point of the debate. It's not about certainty. It's about what we are doing imposes risks of catastrophe on large numbers of people. These risks should & can be avoided & to do this we have to change. There are plenty of opportunities such as by transitioning away from fossil fuels. For example, putting solar on peoples roofs. Roof solar has great financial payback & would create many jobs.
"Man made climate change" is a marketing term, being used in a sophisticated campaign to justify taxes and fees by governments (and the UN!).
That Mehdi dude is such a jerk! Is that what Oxford Union came to??
The biggest misunderstanding about this topic in Oceans rising - they did not rise anymore that just erosion from the land if that is even a problem. Plants need CO2 to grow - any extra gas would help make more O2? If the planet doubled CO2 - it would still be 1% of the biggest global warming gas: Water vapor. If you want to stop global warming: We need to stop water from getting into the environment.
If every iceberg melted at the same time the ocean wouldn’t rise an inch, much the same way my drink doesn’t overflow when the ice cubes melt
David Zordani - mmmm I’m thinking that one through!
The problem is land is sinking. Land sinks when we use too much of the water in aquifers and by taking oil and gas from stored pockets in the strata. Also in relating to volcanic zones, as zones move there's no longer the heat uplift.
The ice sheets on Antarctica are said to be really high over land. Meaning they are pushing the land down. So we could see water level rise if the covered land areas melt completely. If it's an iceberg, yes it's already floating in water so no issue there.
@@lightdark00 land also sinks from the mass on top of them. This is why Mt. Everest cannot grow much taller than what it already is. As it grows in size and weight it sinks further into the mantle and liquifies
Right. its control. to spray the sky with u no. big fh waky upy
The interviewer should be selling tickets on local buses in some crowded Asian city. Out of his league!
silly whitey, its ok, dont let the brown man get your panties in a bunch, i know brown skin is sooo scary!
@@jamalalqassem8747 What are you going on about? My comment was about the interviewer's style in this video only. Who cares what his, mine or your skin color is, not me. Be Happy
We in asia live happier then yr countries and the fact is all this climate change caused by developed countries like yours!! Please plant more trees in yr country so that you will not depend on us to breath.
@@rayridhuan3729 I have lived in Asia from India to Indonesia for the past 30 years after being a wilderness guide in my home country. Always have and continue to plant trees and clear the brush from the trails I use. I was talking about the interviewers style not the person. Take a break and be happy.
Ray Ridhuan first off climate change is all about control and money why do you think they're putting a carbon tax as if that will change anything als they are telling us we should go vegan to make us weaker they tell us to not have kids depopulation do you see how maybe just maybe the elite want to control us (im not a communist) secondly India China and Africa are top poulterers thirdly There's no way third world people are happy and 1s world countrys in Asia are just full of censorship no freedom of speech lack of liberty
Where were they polled?
“You tell me where they were polled!”
... That’s not how presenting evidence works, “No! You tell me where I get my data” haha.
this man an be "funny" at times
I liked the interview, having 3-4 other people involved seated on the first bench. Thank you for this one.
One thing I can agree for sure with this man is that in the end we are not willing to do the changes we need to do. We need to decrease development not just change the way we do it to make any real change.
The interviewer was really bad at his job. How the scientist put up with him i have no idea
The interwier is tlme conscious because of time frame he result to time saving device.
One of the main drivers of climate is the sun and it’s is variable , I didn’t hear this discussed.
yes + also the rapidly changing earths magnetic field !!!
the problem with that is that you can't tax a natural event but you can tax carbon !
karel degreef send all tax bills to the sun!
@@lightdark00 not a good idee => the sun will get depressed and we will enter a new ice age ;-)
karel degreef liberals will tax the sun for that global cooling too😆
Honestly, the most civil discussion that's ever been had on this show.
the less Mehdi talks the more civil lol
why are his arguments cut?? where is the full interveiw?!
How come Chemtrails are banned in two US states?
The interviewer shows his bias, and is terrible at his job. And he keeps interupting his guest.
Kevin, I think the CO2 alarmism is a psychological operation to destroy the credibility of those of us who desire a socialist democracy.
Money is behind CO2 alarmism and money is against the "Left".
@@jimrobcoyle I think if you look in to it there is major money coming from the left for the alarmism. Kev's on to it.
Increased CO2 gave us mega fauna who ate mega plants Good thing
This interviewer/moderator is unbelievable he asks a question and before the guest can answer he asks another !
When discussing the Islands disappearing, the culprit is always "rising" sea levels what about the other known natural phenomenon for instance tectonic effects, subsidance (settling of the volcanic substrait), severe storms resulting in erossion, human impact on the shoreline etc.
The government of Qatar, who owns Al Jazeera, is one of the largest producers of oil and natural gas in the world.
I found this interview debate alarming! I came here thinking that after months of research into who has said what and possibly why...I'd witness a 'denier' evading questions and spouting twaddle. Instead, a remarkably authentic academic calmly presenting his view, that he can't say for certain either way. And why. And evasion and contrived polyspeak twaddle from his supposed 'in the concensus majority' adversaries. I want to know if the president of the Maldives asked his 'consultant' exactly how many of his citizens would be losing their livelihoods or their lives as a result of his 1 ton of CO2 emissions. If the consultant believes AGW is true?.
"To fly all that way just to tell me? No email address then? If the garage mechanic drives up to my house, in my car, and quotes some alarmist figure to get it going again, I would suspect something is up. The Information Superhighway/Facebook/Cloud servers use as much energy now, as the whole planet did in 1973. Then you shall be given a small boat and a copy of 'Mutiny on the Bounty'."...
...."Sorry, I need the compass, check for magnetic anomalies."
Very disappointed, I was about to join the Extinction Rebellion.
So glad you didn't join them!
This video is a joke. The first sentence shows just how biased this is.
The second sentence is the killer.
I would love to know what the professor had to say but every time he explained something he was cut off and argued at by the interviewer who entirely missed or dismissed the point.
Right. He didnt really want to hear the answer after asking the question
I'm not sure we watched the same video. He did have a chance to answer it, it is ONLY when he DIGRESSED that he was kept on track. This is how a host should act. Furthermore, they have only alotted a total of 60 minutes for every episode and with a 10 minute break it comes down to about 50 minutes. With such a slow talker like this professor, the host is FORCED to cut him off for going on long rants. With such little time and so much to go through, as a host of a debate, you have to move on. Jheez go watch netflix, this is not a kid show.
You invite your guest onto your show but don't let him explain his views.
Its not a Talk with Richard Linden, it lets see how many people we can get to talk over Richard Linden
Always nice to hear from the skeptics, however what I surmise is we all agree on the fact that the house is on fire and we're sitting around arguing about whether it was due to lightning hitting the roof or uncle Harry falling asleep with a cigarette in his hand. It seems to me we should do whatever we can to put the fire out before the house burns to the ground.
Can assure you it’s not on fire, it’s baltic here
Very true, because that time we do put into discussing what has caused the fire, is the one has to be applied in solving the problems around us.
No there no fire it's all in your head Can l suggest you study the past and you will see ice age then you see warm times Now tell me why did this happens your only answer is thats nature NO human caused this So if it's happening now thats nature Simple really DON'T be scared of fossel fuel yer what does 97%off scientist beleive climate change mean What has that got to do with science l would rather see scientist questioning climate change not all agreeing on it you are not zombie all you have to do is THINK
Had to abandon this potentially great debate. The politician and moderator just wouldn’t shut and let the scientists speak.
Horrible waste of time.
I certainly don't agree with climate denialism but the host has to learn how to inhibit his emotions. Allow your guests to finish speaking, you child.
So how do you explain global warming and by now half the coast is supposed to be under water and that was now 20 years ago or is it 40 years now? This science has been politically taken over from real climatologists. I think more money from the left agenda is being given to the climate change lovers.
I'm watching this again today as Prof Lidzen is 83, born 08/02/1940. Happy birthday, Prof.
Not once did he let the professor finish with out cutting him off or changing the subject.
Mahdi combative approach is totally wrong for such a subject
The interviewer is a biased and purchased it. It should not be doing job. It does not even really understand topic. Very poor at job because if good at job people would believe it and not notice, but i see that everyone has noticed so no good at job. Waste of pay to it.
Lindzen find it funny that the interviewer is interviewing himself.
that interviewer guy is the worst ive ever seen in my life. he loves to talk and interrupt people when im trying to listen to what they have to say..
Meanwhile back in the real world deaths associated with extreme weather events have fallen 98% since the industrial revolution.
I can't pull off the handle bar moustache. Bit too freddy mercury.
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Dr. Richard Lindzen has a good cadence for discussion. A highly charged debate that just throws hype and accusations at a rapid anxious rate does not engender a thoughtful discussion.
One thing he is right about is that humankind is largely irresponsible. 45:55 deniers don't want to do anything unless they are personally affected and in their terms.
painful moderator does his best to kill dialogue - makes this a difficult witch
Some underlying objective truths;
1. People can live indefinitely in environments that range between roughly 40 degrees F and 95 degrees F (4 and 35 degrees C), ‘if ’ the latter temperature occurs at no more than 50 percent relative humidity. The maximum temperature pushes upward when it's less humid, because lower water content in the air makes it easier to sweat, and thus, keep cool (wet bulb temperatures).
2. For plants, including the major crops (of which over 70% of total nutritional intake come from 3 crops), the limits are more finely balanced. Transpiration is the process by which moisture is carried through plants from roots to small pores on the underside of leaves, where it changes to vapor and is released to the atmosphere. This is how nutrient uptake occurs and is essential for plant viability. Sustained periods at temperatures of 40C or higher where humidity is also high and/or evening do not cool sufficiently becomes non-viable
3. As the atmospheric CO2 level increases above 400ppm, the nutritional content of most major crops start to decrease. As does human cognitive functions. We have now hit 410ppm.
4. Atmospheric CO2 emits an increasing amount of infrared energy, 0.2 Watts per square meter per decade. Roughly, this means CO2 achieves maximum efficiency as a GHG, 10 years after initial emission.
5. Water vapor in the troposhere accounts for the most GHG in the atmosphere. Atmospheric water vapor increases by roughly 7% per 1 degree C of warming. Australia just reported 1 degree anomaly from 1910 - 2018 in their annual state of the climate report.
6. In the first decade or so after its release, methane is 86x more potent than carbon dioxide, with an initial burst effect. It then decays into carbon dioxide (reacts with negatively charged Hydroxyl ions), where it persists for centuries.
7. Nitrous Oxide, N2O is roughly 300x times more potent as a GHG than CO2 and is emitted via microbial release, primarily from use of fertilizers and dairy farming and other industrial activity.
8. Sulphur hexafluoride, SF6 is widely used in the electrical industry to prevent short circuits (wind, solar and the like). It has the highest GHG potential of any known substance, 23,500x more potent than CO2. Being synthetic with no natural pathway for removal, it persists as a GHG for over 1000 years, yet 75% growth in emissions is predicted by 2030.
9. More than 90% of the warming that has happened on Earth over the last 50 years or so has occurred in the oceans.
10. The same amount of energy required to melt 1kg of ice at 0 degrees C to produce 1kg of water (phase transition), could be used to raise the temperature of that 1kg of water from 0 degrees C to 79.8 degrees C.
11. Solar irradiation has been decreasing, as measured against the 11 year average, since around 1980. It will start to increase, although overall, it is of little net effect (whether considering Milankovitch or sun spot cycles).
Let's bring Prof. Lindzen on and not let him answer any substantive questions instead just make him defend himself against loaded questions. This is why the mainstream media is dying. If Lindzen were on the Joe Rogan show it would be much better time spent.
And now its 2019 and the summerboats cant go around Svalbard becouse of ice
and that proves what ??? its cold ???
@JensJugs OK BOOMER
Just a few minutes ago I heard an academic state she had resigned from her university because research funding was only being granted for projects that were examining the detrimental effects of human behaviour on climate change. This might explain why 900+ research papers agreed. Having read hundreds of medical research papers, I can say I have never found ten papers papers on the same subject that measure the exact same thing sufficient to allow that level of comparison. I think the issue of climate change needs to be debated but it is dangerous when lay people challenge scientists who know their subject. This interviewer started out very aggressive but did tone it down a tad when challenged by scientists in the audience.
Finally a scientist with sense.
Prof. Richard Lindzen is succinct and impressive.
Nobody talks about the 2000 nuclear warheads that have been detonated in the last 50 years. Apparently this has nothing to do with climate change or global warming.
EASY to pick out the alarmist propagandists' from the sober thinking scientist in this piece .