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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @YTartschool
    @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +103

    We're finally back on schedule mates💪 This week's painting is from The Apothecary Diaries, a banger show. Trying a different style again for fun, def the most "anime" I've ever painted. Not as fun as fully rendered pieces but still fun :D
    Also it's a bit early, but MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎅 don't forget to get yourself the ART School program and join our art gang muhahahaHAHAH cbr.sh/eqcb55

    • @darkone2114
      @darkone2114 9 месяцев назад +1

      Happy holidays ⛄

    • @iceyberq
      @iceyberq 9 месяцев назад

      Suprised you watch it as well, the maomao drawing looks great

    • @witchbetelgeuse
      @witchbetelgeuse 9 месяцев назад +1

      Happy holidays! Im so happy to know that u also watch Kusuriya no Hitorigoto

    • @MrBlind-kr4vq
      @MrBlind-kr4vq 9 месяцев назад

      Loved maomao thanks marc!!

    • @tempestartificer3669
      @tempestartificer3669 9 месяцев назад +1

      Are you going to make another yearly learn how to draw schedule Mr. Marc?
      Correction Sensei Marc

  • @bluecorvidart
    @bluecorvidart 9 месяцев назад +275

    As an artist with aphantasia, I want to clarify: we absolutely _can_ draw from our imaginations. (In fact, that was why I learned how to draw in the first place -- because I wanted to see what I was imagining and drawing it was the best way to do that!) But you're right that we don't have the same kind of "visual library" as other artists -- rather, it's more like a "skill library." For example, I don't now how to draw a nose because I can _visualize_ it; instead, I've learned a lot of techniques by analyzing references. :D

    • @VigorousYouth.
      @VigorousYouth. 9 месяцев назад +29

      I have total aphantasia, and I was a writer wayyyyy before I was an artist, at the time I started art I didn’t know I had aphantasia, all I knew is that I couldn’t see my characters but wanted to so bad so I decided to learn how to draw. I tried following what was in my head, but there was actually really nothing to see and following my conceptions got me no where but a mess on paper. I did art like that for 3 years, and hardly got anywhere I heavily relied on digital tools to help make something good, however last and this year After looking at references and scrolling Pinterest for techniques, tips and tricks I became a bit better because I understood what I was drawing, finally. Isn’t this just muscle memory+learning?

    • @PasMille
      @PasMille 9 месяцев назад +9

      Exactly ! I Was about to comment this but you said it for me 😅 I Also have aphantasia it's exactly how it works for me

    • @thegochie
      @thegochie 9 месяцев назад +5

      If you va picture an image in your head, you don't have total aphantasia. Some people literally can't picture anything in their mind. You can still draw "from imagination", but it's actually just developing what you see on the paper as you go.

    • @bluecorvidart
      @bluecorvidart 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@thegochie I'm not quite sure how to read this. Are you disagreeing with me? Expanding on my point? Do you have total aphantasia? Are you describing your own experience? I can't tell, so I apologize if I sound like I'm "preaching to the choir." I'm just rambling a bit, it's such a cool subject.
      It seems like this can be really hard to grok for people without aphantasia, but you can still know what things should look like without _picturing_ them. It makes sense if you think about it -- I, who cannot picture things in my mind, still am able to recognise pictures of my grandmother, for example, and I'm able to describe her features with words even if I don't have a picture of her for reference. (Though it is surely more difficult.)
      While I don't think I could draw her accurately without a photo reference, I don't think many people could. I have a buddy with a photographic memory, though! She can look at a picture and hold it in her head forever. (And I have a friend who knew a guy who could look at the pages of books and then recall them to read later in his head. Wild!!)
      For me, personally, since I don't have any pictures, I do my thinking in words. As a side note: did you know that there are people who don't have that "inner voice"? It's truly incredible how variable the experience of thinking is among human beings! :D

    • @thegochie
      @thegochie 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@bluecorvidart I'm not saying you don't have aphantasia at all. I guess I'm just not sure I would call what you do drawing "from imagination" if you're using a memorized description (in words), as opposed to reproducing an image in your head. It's all just semantics though. And I agree, it's all very fascinating.

  • @GodisGood941
    @GodisGood941 9 месяцев назад +452

    Id rather take longer than spend more to learn because a degree never guarantees you a job. Then youll have less time to draw paying back debt.

    • @riesmitzzu4251
      @riesmitzzu4251 7 месяцев назад +4

      i second this, whenever i study a certain thing, i would just make a full illustration or until base color focusing on a certain thing then call it a day
      works like magic

  • @vaerye9147
    @vaerye9147 9 месяцев назад +554

    1:00 Give up your social life and practice more 🚫
    3:23 Drawing from your imagination🚫
    5:11 Have a unique artstyle as soon as possible 🚫
    6:33 You get what you pay for in art education🚫
    8:39 Study other artists to improve🚫

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +140

      my hero

    • @vaerye9147
      @vaerye9147 9 месяцев назад +16

      Learnt soo much from your Channel you have no idea :D @@YTartschool

    • @mr.babichslessons7279
      @mr.babichslessons7279 9 месяцев назад +2

      Hi Marc Merry Christmas. Mate I sent you a message regarding signing up for the full ART school. Would love to hear your response.
      Thank you! You rock!

  • @himignicest1571
    @himignicest1571 9 месяцев назад +63

    Dude the rendering in the piece is actually insane, the clothing and hair are so cool

  • @hanzflackshnack1158
    @hanzflackshnack1158 9 месяцев назад +20

    25 minutes on 10 off with a 20 minute break every third cycle seems to be optimal for retention during heavy drawing studies (like anatomy).
    Frequent breaks give you time to think over the new information while reestablishing focus

    • @ookami5329
      @ookami5329 9 месяцев назад +6

      also power naps are really good, because your brain does thousands of repetitions during that.

    • @MakoKitten
      @MakoKitten 8 месяцев назад +2

      I got used to using a similar timing technique because of a figure drawing class that was taught by a professor who went to an atelier and wanted to make that experience more accessible to people like me who can only afford community college.

  • @warlocke4285
    @warlocke4285 9 месяцев назад +28

    As far as Reference Vs Imagination goes, you gotta strike a balance between the two. Only doing one or the other will handicap you.
    Draw from imagination to test/flex your knowledge.
    Draw from/use Reference for study or figuring out what something looks like.

    • @grqfes
      @grqfes 9 месяцев назад +2

      thats.. literally what he said.
      are you writing from reference?

    • @warlocke4285
      @warlocke4285 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@grqfes Its more of a TLDR, as well as drilling it into our thick af skulls.

    • @Nonexistentbystanderhere
      @Nonexistentbystanderhere 9 месяцев назад

      unless you're kin jung gi

  • @pirateheartbeat1913
    @pirateheartbeat1913 9 месяцев назад +159

    So glad I don't follow any of these tips. 😅
    But the worst art tip I ever got years ago came from an art teacher at school (regular school - not an art school) during an art class: "Don't listen to music, while doing art. You can't focus on two kinds of art at the same time!" Yeah, of course, it's way better to hear my class mates, the cars on the street or, when I'm at home, my cats playing, instead of some inspiring music that keeps me focused on drawing, while any random sounds distract me and make me nervous.
    Meanwhile I even sometimes listen to audio books while drawing, as I found out that it helps me to not overthink what I'm doing with my pen. Because the less I think about every damn stroke I make, the better the results turn out. 🙏
    But this might not work for everyone, of course.

    • @benia1908
      @benia1908 9 месяцев назад +16

      Your teacher's advice is legit, multitasking is bad for deep focus, you're half-assing everything you do if you're multitasking, and this is true for every human with a brain, unless you think you have superpowers, you fall into that category too lol

    • @kurisari1937
      @kurisari1937 9 месяцев назад +60

      @benia1908 nope. with an adhd-inclined brain, it’s impossible to work on anything at all without a baseline of stimulation, be it TV or music or chatter or all those things at once. please think twice before making such generalizations. not everyone works the same way.

    • @pirateheartbeat1913
      @pirateheartbeat1913 9 месяцев назад +51

      @@benia1908 This is only half of the truth. Sure, multitasking is a myth. But listening to music can be active or passive. When you don't do it actively it is not an actual "task". It's more like breathing. And this is how we listen to most music. Otherwise listening to music should be immediately be prohibited while driving a car. 😅
      I get easily distracted by random noises though. Try to imagine how hard it is for me to focus on art in a crowded class room... When I listen to music I don't focus on it (it takes me ages to learn lyrics, cause I never really listen). It just cancels all other noises for me and make me focus on what is in front of my eyes. As I already said: this might not apply to everyone. Not every brain works the same - that's absolutely wrong.
      Also: Please, go to the gym, where almost everyone listens to music, and tell ppl they only do their workout half-assed. 😂

    • @benia1908
      @benia1908 9 месяцев назад

      @@kurisari1937 lol I think I forgot to say "working brain", of course a down syndrome guy will be more focused if you bombard him with stimuli, but that's not the norm, and I'm talking about the norm up there too, not the exception

    • @benia1908
      @benia1908 9 месяцев назад

      @@pirateheartbeat1913 I know that feeling, I use what is called "white noise" a LOT, like a lot, search airplane sound if you wanna try it out, you're right that a passive activity turns into some kind of booster for focus if it blocks external distractions, though I think it's a complicated discussion if listening to music with lyrics is actually passive or not

  • @arthurtaylor64
    @arthurtaylor64 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm so happy you actually mentioned aphantasia, so many people don't when talking about drawing from imagination. I have it and I can still draw without a reference for some things like basic anatomy/ poses due to muscle memory but when it comes to specifics I need a reference if its going to look anything like what I was trying to go for.

  • @Sponchka
    @Sponchka 9 месяцев назад +7

    Hey Marc, I just started my art journey a couple weeks ago, and I wanted to say that your videos are really helpfull! I wanted to say thank you and merry christmas:)

  • @leozkiii
    @leozkiii 9 месяцев назад +2

    marc videos are like a christmas present

  • @dabouncingcat
    @dabouncingcat 9 месяцев назад

    "watching more vids is not going to help" but i love watching them😭

  • @donyori
    @donyori 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for bringing up artstlye. People so badly want to stand out or "brand" themselves. It kills creativity and leads to a lot of mental blocks. I used to study other artists so I could draw just like them. It made the drawing process very tedious and amxiety inducing because I wanted my art to look the same all the time.

  • @simplesmile6984
    @simplesmile6984 9 месяцев назад +4

    Marc good to see your channel doing good , thanks for your hard work 👍

  • @cinnstix8029
    @cinnstix8029 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow that drawing came out so gorgeous

  • @NightOwlTime
    @NightOwlTime 9 месяцев назад +5

    Fair Christmas tidings Mr art Santa. I have greatly enjoyed your content as Ive gone through parts of it and I am very pleased you decided to share your expertise in this way. I decided to formally enroll in your art school because I have no doubts that it will be worth it regardless of the time it will take me to work through it thanks to trying some of your methods in previous videos. Without finding you on RUclips I am quite sure I wouldn't have thought about genuinely pursuing drawing as an adult (I barely drew as a child and had as close to 0 skill in drawing as possible relative to even those who only drew as children so its been quite a dramatic punch in the face to go from zero), for that I am glad. I am looking forward to start going through it, my sincere gratitude and christmas tidings to you Marc.

  • @andyshriner5443
    @andyshriner5443 9 месяцев назад

    All I can think of when I hear the Christmas sale song is that Kotte Animations video "let it go".

  • @RenaRoselp
    @RenaRoselp 9 месяцев назад

    Happy Holidays! 🎄 Thank u for your art tips! As an adult with less free time, I prefer to draw focusing on some aspect rather than draw, draw and draw aimlessly. 😅

  • @KillerTacos54
    @KillerTacos54 9 месяцев назад

    Beautiful illustration

  • @thenewgamer64
    @thenewgamer64 9 месяцев назад

    6:33 yeah having had a public university have an art professor who doesn't teach by example but by lecture on Intermediate Drawing and Beginner Drawing just by critiquing you on what can be improved but if you asked them to help you draw a tree, they'd point you to RUclips or tell you to shadow another student who is better

  • @snowdragon9577
    @snowdragon9577 9 месяцев назад

    Lesssgooooo best art school class in all of RUclips land!
    Always a treat when we get one of these!!!

  • @inazawakoreto
    @inazawakoreto 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mr. Mark, I think I learn one of the most crucial thing from one of the tips that nobody ever told me
    Not to keep my style if I want to improve
    Yes, that's one of the horror thing that I had in mind that perhaps stopping me to grow as an artist. Because, I'm afraid if I lost my style, I won't be able to create another one that distinguished me from others.
    But, you're right, artist had to develop and they never stop learning, so I might give it a try
    Honestly, there's one more thing that I hope you answer since I never get the answer of this question anywhere, does sketching affects your digital art? Does it help improving digital art? Or, should I learn to draw in different platform to improve? I asked this because sometimes I don't get the time to bring my laptop everywhere and everyday, and I'm still learning how to master anatomy since my figures looks stiff and lack of dynamic, I'd appreciate it if you can answer my curiosity

  • @MonsterMasterFightingLucario
    @MonsterMasterFightingLucario 9 месяцев назад

    It'll take time before I become one of the best out there, but I have the determination to become just that!

  • @flowers593
    @flowers593 9 месяцев назад

    Your maomao fanart is so pretty she looks amazing in your style!😍

  • @darkone2114
    @darkone2114 9 месяцев назад

    Happy holidays ⛄. And a lot of the bad art tips you say is true because alot of the tips are either misleading or explain in the wrong way. But i like that you tell us how to improve as artist so we can become amazing artists. Thank you for helping me improve as a artist.

  • @mz282
    @mz282 9 месяцев назад

    thanks for your all wisdom during the year Marc, doing my best to stay focused and structured with my progress and practice, slowly but surely im getting there, keep up the good work, merry christmas mate

  • @trippettfamily4686
    @trippettfamily4686 9 месяцев назад

    Merry Christmas

  • @user-pd6qw8js2y
    @user-pd6qw8js2y 9 месяцев назад

    Honestly I need this I always felt like I was never good at art but people say I’m amazing but I just don’t feel that spark you know maybe you can help me and that would be cool I’m definitely subscribing

  • @Refluux
    @Refluux 9 месяцев назад

    perfect practice makes perfect

  • @fanaticn708
    @fanaticn708 9 месяцев назад

    I akd chatgpt whether copying other artists is a good way to learn and i said that one should do it with an intent like composition brushwork or light and shadow.

  • @hibryd7481
    @hibryd7481 9 месяцев назад

    As a bald guy myself, I completely get the urge to overcompensate with furrier-than-usual hats during the winter 😌
    Great tips as always 👍

  • @jeep3r
    @jeep3r 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ty for your tips, and happy holidays

    • @Sunlightreflection
      @Sunlightreflection 9 месяцев назад

      Tipo?

    • @jeep3r
      @jeep3r 9 месяцев назад

      @Rumaitha-tg2sm yes, autocorrect strikes again. Ty for the heads up

  • @metovir8109
    @metovir8109 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks, Mark!

  • @AndreasVlurchVader
    @AndreasVlurchVader 9 месяцев назад

    ALRIGHT NOW IT IS A HIGHER SET.. but it is from the master artwork top level.

  • @witchbetelgeuse
    @witchbetelgeuse 9 месяцев назад +1

    MAO MAO THUMBNAIL😳😳👏👏

  • @observer14
    @observer14 9 месяцев назад

    i came here just because of Mao Mao.
    Bro, your art is awesome!

  • @arsd.711
    @arsd.711 9 месяцев назад

    Hahahaha true, I think I burned out the most with the art assignments on top of being undiagnosed at the time, I think I'll probably deal better with a self managed schedule but I already sank money into it so just looking forward to finishing a degree I guess

  • @artbargra
    @artbargra 8 месяцев назад

    An advice I've received, but I'm not sure how good is it, is that I need to draw, even when not feeling inspired. Which, in my case, is most of the time. It's difficult for me to feel that inspiration, even when I do want to draw. How can I overcome that?

  • @racheltoler3895
    @racheltoler3895 9 месяцев назад

    Great video, I feel so reassured about my skills now.

  • @Thollis1987
    @Thollis1987 9 месяцев назад

    I have already watched 8 episodes of Apothecary ❤ love the anime!😊

  • @roobi2101
    @roobi2101 9 месяцев назад

    love love love the maomao art in the video !

  • @magnus37292
    @magnus37292 9 месяцев назад +1

    two weeks ago I just randomly wanted to become better at drawing, so here I am sitting there with the old graphic tablet form my brother and wondering what the programm in the background is called. So could someone answer that. Also nice video👍

  • @lollollolOHO
    @lollollolOHO 9 месяцев назад +3

    Hi Mark, thank you for your awesome videos. 02:30 You mention that we have only 45 hours of focus each day... do you mean 45 minutes of focus each day or 45 hours of focus each week?
    Or maybe something else. Thank you for your time and merry xmas!

    • @v3rycherrybomb
      @v3rycherrybomb 9 месяцев назад +3

      4-5 hours each day not 45 lmao

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +6

      4 to 5h daily!

    • @lollollolOHO
      @lollollolOHO 9 месяцев назад

      Ohhhhh thanks. My bad. Sorry english isn't my first language

  • @chosenuwu
    @chosenuwu 9 месяцев назад

    Omg, your drawing of Maomao is beautiful ;-:

  • @Shacolm
    @Shacolm 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for a good Christmas gift

  • @Shinobi468
    @Shinobi468 9 месяцев назад

    your videos are really helpful. I love apothecary diaries such a good anime

  • @mattparsons433
    @mattparsons433 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, that illustration is beautiful… 😘

  • @demoniac4821
    @demoniac4821 9 месяцев назад

    I always draw from imagination because if i use ref, my mind just go blank and copy everything i see.

  • @letmesleep8067
    @letmesleep8067 7 месяцев назад

    It might just be me being hella tired but your art you were working on looks like ai, which is pretty cool

  • @TheGLfilms
    @TheGLfilms 9 месяцев назад

    this is the best video i watched all year!

  • @nightwolf0149
    @nightwolf0149 9 месяцев назад

    Guys I really liked this channel but is there a specific order to watch as a beginner?

  • @anime-xu4fs
    @anime-xu4fs 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hi, first, i gotta say that i really like your contant and the way you explain things good. Second, i have a question.. my goal is to draw a manga, i draw like.. 3 years (i used to draw when i was much younger but i stopped) and i dont make any progress. Maybe just a little.. most of the time i draw from imagination at school, and sometime i try to copy some anime/manga/ artist drawing, and i just cant do this good. I have no idea how can i improve.. cause even if i practice things like.. legs, arm, face, it just looks really mid no matter how hard i try, and i get bored and stop drawing for that day.. can you help please?

  • @Timegirls3301
    @Timegirls3301 9 месяцев назад

    What art schools would you recommend for animation ❤❤❤

  • @laureldreams4108
    @laureldreams4108 9 месяцев назад

    The last one hit me. I always heard about studying from artists better that you, it's how I've approached it almost all my life.
    But how can you lern if not by studying other artists? Even in cases like you said, artists giving classes themselves be it on youtube or in person, those people are teaching you what they know, you are learning from them, and studying from them wether you want to or not.
    Is there really a way to improve at art without studying other atists? Even when to know the fundamental you likley have to study from other artists, right? Therefore no one will really improve without learning from others.
    Even geting art critiques from profesionals or friends, you are gathering info from others. IDK what to think about that last one tbh :T

    • @Trishpaytaxes
      @Trishpaytaxes 9 месяцев назад

      Maybe he means you should study more from life? If you study art, you'll miss the actual details of what you're drawing.
      For example: If you only know how to draw anime faces, you'll miss out on a whole lot of detail from a real person's face.
      I'm not saying give up on the anime artstyle, but studying realism can make your anime drawings more interesting. You can take parts of the anatomy and expression you've learned, and add them to make your artstyle suit yourself better.

    • @Trishpaytaxes
      @Trishpaytaxes 9 месяцев назад

      I used to study from other artists a ton, but I took up realism and it's helped out a ton with my cartoony artstyle.

    • @laureldreams4108
      @laureldreams4108 9 месяцев назад

      @@Trishpaytaxes Yeah but by studying realism someone has to teach you realism. You're still learning from other artists.

    • @Kenpiess
      @Kenpiess 9 месяцев назад

      They mean DON'T take fricking references from their art, lol. First learn the anatomy, perspective, etc after watching real images THEN modify everything you learned to create your own art-style of it

  • @shamchez5234
    @shamchez5234 9 месяцев назад

    Hiya question. How long did it take you to draw that Timelapse pic?

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 8 месяцев назад

    The issue I always had with art schools and “stop drawing anime” is that they only address anime, like there aren’t other popular art styles out there that would lose focus. Kinda rubs off as xenophobic targeting.

  • @melemon810
    @melemon810 9 месяцев назад +1

    apologies if this is rude, but the music is too loud compared to ur voice, like it’s the same volume. i do have sensitive ears to so it may just be me lol

  • @no_1_knoz
    @no_1_knoz 9 месяцев назад

    …but, SENPAI, I don’t wanna be a 10,000 hour LOSER…!!!!!! 😂🤣😂
    [great vid, as per usual and I’ve finally bout to be in the position to actually start UR ART SCHOOL PROGRAM (I got a col years back 😔), but regardless I CANNOT WAIT!!!!]

  • @UnLancheroMuyPenudo
    @UnLancheroMuyPenudo 6 месяцев назад

    The only thing I could draw were ugly FLAT geometric cartoons, It was like the only thing my brain could understand .

  • @chrisrey0018
    @chrisrey0018 9 месяцев назад

    Apothecary Diaries!!

  • @klast8201
    @klast8201 9 месяцев назад

    I clicked so fast because I saw MaoMao in the thumbnail 😂😂

  • @mngkyouGoD
    @mngkyouGoD 9 месяцев назад

    😤😤😤😤💯💯💯 so good sensei

  • @luckyadrian100
    @luckyadrian100 9 месяцев назад

    Here we go MaoMao

  • @Ricktofenable
    @Ricktofenable 9 месяцев назад

    Oh hi marc

  • @emilysteigerwald8622
    @emilysteigerwald8622 7 месяцев назад

    Per #4 for young artists - if I could do it all over again, I would get a degree in buisness accounting so I could do my own taxes *as an artist*

  • @saraerack
    @saraerack 9 месяцев назад

    Sir How can I get your Discord community?

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +1

      It’s for all students of the ART School program:)

    • @saraerack
      @saraerack 9 месяцев назад

      @@YTartschool Got it sir

  • @Croissantum
    @Croissantum 9 месяцев назад

    Wowie!

  • @beewell1600
    @beewell1600 9 месяцев назад +1

    what about you, did you practiced for 10k hours?

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +2

      Drawing for 30y will do that but I started working professionally in my teens so it’s really all about the quality of the practice, not the quantity!

  • @Heisenburg17
    @Heisenburg17 9 месяцев назад

    I copy lots of artists, styles, color palettes, even like reference some details and sell it to my low-paid customers. "Real Artists" are always mad but who cares, right?

  • @the_goofiest_whajje
    @the_goofiest_whajje 9 месяцев назад +1

    I cannot draw from reference for shit. If I see a thing, just see a bunch of cluttered, meaningless shapes that can barely be drawn. Think reverse aphantasia.

  • @chugaicy334
    @chugaicy334 9 месяцев назад

    man, idk why but I really thought that ur art in the thumbnail was AI. omg idk anymore🥲🥲🥲

  • @ub-4630
    @ub-4630 9 месяцев назад

    ¡Hola!

  • @gadzinka
    @gadzinka 9 месяцев назад

  • @kailam4421
    @kailam4421 9 месяцев назад

    The 10,000 hours thing isnt even a rule either. Thats also bad advice. The 10,000 hr mastery was ONLY done on learning an instrument at mastery level. You might pick it up a lot faster, you might need more time, but the 10,000 hrs isnt accurate.

    • @ca678.4
      @ca678.4 8 месяцев назад

      Of course it’s not accurate. The point of that number is to say it takes time to learn a skill. People expect to spend very little time on art learning and drawing and are inconsistent will go weeks and months without drawing then are upset they aren’t on the level of a pro artist even though said artist spent less years drawing than them. If you can’t put in the hours and discipline to learn, don’t really expect to get anywhere. It might as well be a very close number for many if you sit down and count the amount of hours it took for many artists to go from complete newby to decent art.

  • @SdudyoyO
    @SdudyoyO 9 месяцев назад +90

    I'm glad to say, most people I've learned from have advised against all of these things. The strangest idea to me is being told to draw from imagination, I don't believe I've ever come across an artist who would recommend _ignoring_ references. That's such an odd way to learn, especially when you realize art is about emulating what you can see.

    • @ookami5329
      @ookami5329 9 месяцев назад +17

      Once you draw something enough times and learn it's shape and how it's supposed to look, you absolutely can draw it from imagination. Manga artists would never be able to pump out 30 pages every 3-4 days if they had to look up a reference picture for everything they had to draw every time.

    • @FruitsChinpoSamuraiG
      @FruitsChinpoSamuraiG 9 месяцев назад +4

      it's likely to be the same people who think that using a reference is cheating, which apparently is a thing ! "you can't be a good artist if you need a reference" type of crowd

    • @Riboux7
      @Riboux7 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@ookami5329 it's less time consuming to see a reference tho

    • @ookami5329
      @ookami5329 5 месяцев назад

      @@Riboux7 When you learn what the shape of something is you can just draw it without stopping to search for the right reference, you can draw it at any angle, and I reckon you can draw it faster because you aren’t pausing every minute to check on the reference.

  • @sleepykittyMMD
    @sleepykittyMMD 9 месяцев назад +116

    My personal favorites are don’t ever use the erasure or Ctrl z. Because CONFIDENT artists don’t do that. Well pro artists probably spent more time doing just that and confidence in your lines has nothing to do with it

    • @vladole4176
      @vladole4176 9 месяцев назад +5

      Thats true, Patrick Brown who draws those famous fanarts does that too many times, draws, erases, draws, erases again x200 unless theres perfect line he is satisfied with

    • @ohboi1205
      @ohboi1205 8 месяцев назад +2

      that advice apples to studies only! cuz u get more confident but not in everyday art

  • @samanrashidi8683
    @samanrashidi8683 9 месяцев назад +23

    PLEASE make a video about your layering (how you make different layers for different parts and stuff). I know it's not a universal thing and every person has their own preferences but yours looks awesome and I really wanna know more about it

  • @robot7338
    @robot7338 9 месяцев назад +70

    the tip about learning from imagination is insanely useful - literally just yesterday i was drawing from reference, but felt like it wouldnt be enough to be able to draw the subject from imagination if i dont practice drawing it from imagination - i feel a bit better now knowing that studying references really is effective to improve at art!

    • @UrusaiJoe
      @UrusaiJoe 9 месяцев назад +15

      Yep, using references will make you improve faster. Focus on the shapes and always try to put your spin on it.
      People that say to not use references, most of the time never picked up a pencil.

    • @kurisari1937
      @kurisari1937 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yes, but: I’d been drawing from reference only for three years, but that did nothing to improve my ability to draw from imagination. Maybe you won’t need to practice drawing from imagination separately, but don’t be surprised if never practicing it won’t yield results.

    • @aiiiia9971
      @aiiiia9971 9 месяцев назад +2

      Dude. Using references is a game changer. Once I got over the feeling that I was using a "crutch" and actually learned from references properly without judging myself, my art skill skyrocketed. I can draw from imagination even much better after practicing with references more often. References are life savers and you should absolutely use them.

    • @aiiiia9971
      @aiiiia9971 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@UrusaiJoe I think a key reason as to why drawing from reference can sometimes be unhelpful comes down to how to use them. The best way to learn isn't to copy the reference exactly line for line. It's to get a really good look at it and try to get an understanding of the form and basic shapes, before trying to recreate them in your own way using your understanding of that reference. In a sense, you aren't just converting the reference directly to your drawing. You are putting the reference inside your mind, and then converting it from your mind to paper. Then check periodically to see if you're getting it right. In a way, training your imagination to be better. Not copying

  • @lunafox5571
    @lunafox5571 9 месяцев назад +20

    Maomao?! Marc you're so up to date about the newest trending anime huh? 😂 I'm so excited when i see the thumbnail because i recognize the character and read the manga too. also, LOVE THE RESULT 😍❤ as always, you give great advice and helpful art video but also entertaining to watch 🌟 thank you for your hardwork marc!

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +17

      Thanks! I guess I look like I don't watch anime but I've been watching an unhealthy amount ever since I was 12, aka over 20 years 😅 Drawing fanart is new though, I used to only focus on my own art hehehe

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 9 месяцев назад +83

    I've constantly talked to fellow artists and students to use reference. I don't know why people get so disgusted about that when you got to know what something looks like and you're going to be able to tell right away if something looks off!!! I thank you for reminding folks about that!❤

    • @thecheesemaker9617
      @thecheesemaker9617 9 месяцев назад

      I have that problem, it feels unoriginal when I use a reference so I keep using imagination cause it's..... satisfying, I suppose? Especially when it looks good. Which happens in a blue moon.

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@thecheesemaker9617 it's fine to use your imagination, you just got to make sure whatever your referencing looks accurate. For example, some of Frank Frazetta tigers look a little off but he is putting his own take on illustrating them

    • @stxllr4687
      @stxllr4687 9 месяцев назад +3

      I think another issue is that some people don’t like to get their photos to be references. Just last week there was this thing on Twitter (of course…) of a model (?) ‘calling out’ an artist for referencing them. If you’re drawing from Pinterest especially finding the OG a source is time consuming for some, and even more so if you had to contact someone to post your work.
      This isn’t my opinion, but it’s just what I saw.

    • @FruitsChinpoSamuraiG
      @FruitsChinpoSamuraiG 9 месяцев назад

      @@stxllr4687 if you really want to draw people, ask friends and family for pics : they can pose the way YOU want them, with the lighting YOU want. if that doesn't work out, there's plenty of photographs of celebrities or even portraits you can find in galleries ou museums. finding a reference isn't really a huge issue.

    • @Nikitomate
      @Nikitomate 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@thecheesemaker9617 you could mesh several references together. That's what I always do. I basically have for every project a more or less filled digital Moodboard and mix the parts I need.

  • @heroraindrop1614
    @heroraindrop1614 9 месяцев назад +11

    Love the MaoMao illustration!!!

  • @Nikitomate
    @Nikitomate 9 месяцев назад +12

    On point 1: This is the reason why I took up knitting during art school. This needed less focus than drawing and the repetition of movement helped me reduce stress while my hands were still occupied.
    I still knit a few rows in between work on really scatterbrained days, when I can't really focus on my project.

  • @michaelmana
    @michaelmana 9 месяцев назад +9

    Honestly hearing that only 14% of working professionals have an art degree is very relieving. I hear so many people say you need a degree to get a job in the industry, but its nice to know I don't have to be in debt for the rest of my life to be successful.

    • @nomoretwitterhandles
      @nomoretwitterhandles 9 месяцев назад +3

      The fine arts are one of those broad fields that do not require a degree for you to be a professional! Musicians, actors, and yes--artists. You will always need practice, but degrees only exist to give you a leg-up on your competition. If you're good enough, you don't need the help!

  • @0PercentImagination
    @0PercentImagination 9 месяцев назад +17

    Its a small thing but I have huge respect to anyone that will talk about other options (specifically referring to the 'get what you pay for' section) without overly hyping up theirs because while good artists know to learn from many sources its easy to stumble on people that act like their way is the only correct way (and to claim their program/course is needed if they have one). Well that said I'm still a noob because the sheer amount of options kinda throws me off a little lol.

    • @nomoretwitterhandles
      @nomoretwitterhandles 9 месяцев назад +4

      If options scare you, you honestly might be better off learning from JUST Marc--at least, until YOU decide to branch out and find specifics as you become more skilled.
      I am an artist myself; used to be a professional until I decided to pursue science. I still draw of course. But from what I've learned, the most important thing is to focus on what you want to focus on. Sounds easy enough, but it's so common to get distracted and end up with a half-baked amalgamation of different techniques that you have yet to master.
      Wanna have better composition? Focus on your sketches.
      Wanna have better line art? Focus on stroke technique (not a euphemism I swear) and practice the styles you want to use in your own art. Style combinations are fine!
      Wanna have better shading? Focus on values and light sources.
      Wanna have better anatomy? Focus on your references.
      You can work on many of these at the same time if you have the energy to do so! Just remember that what you learn is entirely up to you. It can be scary, but it doesn't HAVE to be scary. Starting out by using Marc's free tutorials is honestly all you need if you are a beginner. Take it from an ex-professional who is still learning from Marc. :)

  • @TheHeatnix
    @TheHeatnix 9 месяцев назад +5

    I have student debt creeping on me, did not make it into a game studio, the school I went to drilled it on me to abandon drawing in favor of CG and the whole experience set me back almost 10 years. It sucks to learn Art Schools are a scam through personal experience.

  • @smm855
    @smm855 9 месяцев назад +8

    I'm glad you mentioned aphantasia (I'd never heard about it until about 5 years ago). While I don't have full aphantasia, I have very little mental visuals. I was incredibly frustrated because it seemed like everyone else in art school was able to just conjure up these images so easily while I needed heavy reference. I thought I was just broken. Also, 100% agree with you that you don't get what you pay for. I paid 60K to get depression when I could have gotten the same amount of actual information from couple of books by Wucius Wong, and Andrew Loomis and watching a few youtube channels. I was at a table at artist alley shortly after graduating and I ended up meeting one of my followers. She asked where I went to art school and she was flabbergasted when I told her that art school is overrated and expensive. She had promise and I hated the idea that she would go off to have some egotistical asshole ruin her passion.

  • @lRedBaronl
    @lRedBaronl 9 месяцев назад +7

    That art turned out crazy nice Marc 🔥🔥

  • @greenislandserenade1
    @greenislandserenade1 9 месяцев назад +4

    ok but the pic of maomao looks so good here I actually watched the entire process, though I see you switched out the initial rose for an open blue one

  • @elice2782
    @elice2782 9 месяцев назад +7

    oh my GOD. i have an afantasia and NOBODY speaks about it. thank you for mentionig this point. i was shamed for using references, but i really can`t draw without them. and i hope another people with afantasia will understand that it`s not the fiction, it`s real thing that interferes your drawing process

    • @j3tus15
      @j3tus15 9 месяцев назад

      I have aphantasia and drawing accurately without reference is definitely possible just a bit harder (I haven't been doing art for very long so I can't do it for most things) You just have to remember the shapes and have some muscle memory

  • @TheSoySpy16
    @TheSoySpy16 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'm honestly a bit scared, cause all these tips are exactly the ones I've been using 😭😭😭. I've learnt that trying to rush myself into learning how to draw without any references everyday and while trying to make an unique style is just a quick way to disappoint myself and burn myself out. Time to focus on the fundamentals and learning the basics, doing it when I WANT to and not force myself to practice when I'm not in the mood.
    Thanks Marc for providing these amazing educational videos!

    • @nomoretwitterhandles
      @nomoretwitterhandles 9 месяцев назад +5

      I am so sorry to hear you've been lied to this whole time!! Take it from someone who used to be a professional artist--NEVER listen to "DON'Ts". All the time I see these "art tips" that include so many "DON'Ts", and they ALWAYS come from unskilled artists! "Don't shade with black" says the person who has never studied chiaroscuro. "Don't pillow shade" says the person who has never studied soft lighting. "Don't shade (insert race here) with this color" says the person who has not thoroughly research human skin tones and color theory. I'm telling you, art is for YOU to learn. YOU are capable of learning just as everyone else is! And you cannot learn without making a few mistakes along the way!
      Forget the "don'ts". I'll leave you with the "always": Always follow your heart! Always learn what you want to learn! Always make what you want to make! Always create when you want to create!

  • @ronniemorris5386
    @ronniemorris5386 9 месяцев назад +7

    I do have a question about Marc's school: Is it a go at your own pace? Or is it a scheduled class and such that we'd have to keep up with?

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +12

      Thanks for considering it! Yes it’s go at your own pace, no deadlines and you get access to the classes and community for life (along with free access to all future updates and additions)

  • @fredbyoutubing
    @fredbyoutubing 9 месяцев назад +5

    One thing that bugs me, even in traditional education, is how tutorials or classes often skip over the technical aspects of using photoshop or similar programs. I lose so much time struggling with basic tools or organization sometimes that I end up not drawing much. For example, I'm working on a piece and suddenly, the tear drop tool stopped showimg the result in real time on the color pannel. It only acts on the backgroud color of the two little squares. What gives?

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +1

      Click the foreground little square, you just have the bg color picker selected probably

    • @fredbyoutubing
      @fredbyoutubing 9 месяцев назад

      @@YTartschool Thanks for answering! I think I figured out that my issue is using Alt+hold left click for my picker while using my brush. But alt also alternates the picker to the back square. So I had to switch the picker for my shortkey to act on the front one while using the brush. Anyway lot's of frustration for not much in the end.

  • @envycollar
    @envycollar 9 месяцев назад +2

    10:22 dankpods..

  • @imtiaze642
    @imtiaze642 9 месяцев назад +2

    6:33 [You get what you pay for in art education],
    You know you sell art classes, I though you would be last person to say this part. You have blown my mind saying absolutely what needed to be said. Thank you. You are a real one. You are my hero.

  • @voiceinyourhead2
    @voiceinyourhead2 9 месяцев назад +1

    i got a drawing pad for Christmas so im whanting to get into drawing so this vid will help alot

  • @colorcoding
    @colorcoding 9 месяцев назад +8

    FIRST!| (Please don't ban me

    • @YTartschool
      @YTartschool  9 месяцев назад +4

      close, but not quite!

    • @colorcoding
      @colorcoding 9 месяцев назад

      @@YTartschool next time... xD

  • @pantamews
    @pantamews 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ngl i agree with all of these, and yes i did tons of these art no-no's and i was also planing to get an art course once i hit collage but looking at my sister who also went to collage for an art course... I might change my mind about taking an art course 💀

  • @josueelias1602
    @josueelias1602 9 месяцев назад +1

    The way I see it sacrifying friends from learning art is more of a self sabotage than anything because socialization is a necessity (for some more than others, but it is) loneliness can deteriorate your mental health and motivation not only in art but in life. Also if your friends are also other artists you would be missing the opportunity to share experience and help eachother to solve problems and increase eachother's motivation.

  • @ODAXEL.
    @ODAXEL. 9 месяцев назад +2

    I really hate the advice 'Practice more'. I've had that said to me for years and when asked for art advice, I tend to ask the person questions back: What specifically are you interested in learning? What artists do you look at for inspiration and what do you like about their style or technique? Etc.
    Love the video, Marc. Happy Holidays!

  • @miltaire3235
    @miltaire3235 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'm glad you talked about the issue with art college. From my experience in university in the Philippines, the structure is a complete mess and each class never goes further than just the basics before jumping you off to a completely unrelated field the next term to cover the same exact lessons but in the guise of a different class. It puts focus on a lot of the wrong things and is basically done just to maximize the establishment's profit.
    Our animation class for example is only one 10 week term out of the 4 years, and there's no further class to expound further on it such as animation 2 , 3, 4, etc. Just one 10 week class that realistically, won't prepare you for a professional career. There's even an emphasis on written exams for all these classes, as if those are important to your growth as an artist in any capacity.
    I've learned much more on youtube from great artists than I ever have in college, which makes you question why these schools are so expensive to begin when the resources you need are free online, or come at a cheaper price.