I borrowed one of these for a youth group trip well over a decade ago, and I can remember watching the gas gauge move in real-time. Awesome truck, though!
My uncle had the v10 around the same time. About 10 years ago. Lifted on 40s, and getting on the freeway when he would step on it. It was like a joke he’d show his gas gauge lowering. When gas was still under 2$ lol
I could watch the gas gauge drop on my 4.9 F150 4spd at 85mph. Gas gauge would just steadily tick down every 4 miles.. I live in Texas, believe it or not 85 was the speed limit lol
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weld-in replacement rocker panels and even floors are still in stock in the US for this generation of excursion for less than $100 for both sides.. it's surely worth putting an additional $2000-$3000 into this thing, to just replace the cat and stop the rust from getting any worse! it's super cool
the only thing I miss about my v10 ford was how it sounded with headers, a high flow cat, and magnaflow exhaust. skip the oe replacement cat and put in a high flow unit much cheaper
My went wasn't completely irresponsible because he said there's a dash light that warns when it gets low so he can pull over before an emergency braking situation
@@vyrnmn what I ment was he knew when he had brake fluid, as soon as he saw the light come on, he could pull over. If that didnt happen he would have perfectly good brakes.
@NintendoFan4Life There are magnets that clip onto the fuel line that tout 10% mpg improvements. What I do is clip 20 of them onto my fuel line. The only problem is I have to keep stopping to drain the tank when it overflows.
We had several of these at FEMA for emergency and they are a beast as they hauled a lot of gear. Very useful and also comfortable when the environment we were in were not.
My wife's 2003 Excursion is a v10 with 176000(est) miles and it is the best vehicle we could possibly ask for with 4 children. I own a 2000 F250 V10 with 220000(est) miles. She had a 2020 Enclave and I had a 2019 Ram Laramie. We decided to stop paying vehicle payments and got older vehicles that we didn't need to pay on and that I could fix myself. Love em both.
The “recycling facilities” that accept and pay money for these are equally criminal. Make them quit paying thieves and only truly recycled cats will result.
The loophole used to sell more than one cat per day is having a government contract. Think about that. Government (and the inflation they created) is the cause of this problem in the first place.
I agree, but it’s tough. I have legitimately sold cats (had to replace on a truck, and chose to upgrade on a car). I waited until prices were up and sold all 4. When I sold I had to let them scan my license to look for a pattern. I think this makes sense. If you want to sell more than once per year then you are flagged and need to explain. If you can show ownership of the cars like I could then no issue. If not EPA handles it (like hoovie said this makes it federal, plus the epa has more power than the police)
That may work, but then the environmental recycling specialists will branch out to the next leading cause of, "Climate Change, the dreaded copper tubing in central air units!
@@DustinHasVideos I think we need less authority to the alphabet soup agencies and more state and local laws and enforcement. Are the areas that are having such theft problems the same ones who refuse to create laws or refuse to enforce laws? We have entire cities now refusing to enforce petty theft all the way up to car theft. Fining the thieves and then releasing them is nothing more than the state taking it's cut of the theft ring. Corrupt evil people are the problem. They rule the government and use these thieves, murderers, and pedophiles as their pawns to control society out of fear. So giving the same people more authority to "fix" the very problem they created is not the answer.
I live in Oregon and my Father-in-Law owns a junkyard. They are cracking down HARD here. No more selling cats without full paperwork. He has to have VIN numbers attached to every Cat, and can only sell to a handful of authorized people who process them. Unfortunately he still gets calls regularly asking if he 'wants to buy some cats'. . .which as a dismantler he is not allowed to do due to the new regulations. Not to say this has stopped it, but it is definitely helping.
We have the same laws in the UK even for normal scrape metal and wiring including pipes and lead. It's to stop people stripping buildings out or stealing cats. Nothing can be sold for cash has to be tracked
I had a 99 F350 dually with a V10. I had a Flowmaster single in, dual out with the tips at an angle on the rear corners. It sounded so good. 3,000 rpms sounded like it was turning about 9,000. It was a hoot pulling a 38' camper weighing about 11,000 pounds.
If you live north of KY, they need serious 🧐 rust protection (any vehicle) I’m always amazed how people that live in those areas don’t give a F about preventing their vehicles from rusting out . My father in law bought a beauty of a truck (not being sarcastic, it was nice) 🛻 that literally cracked in half. Found out they brought it down here (AL) from OH.
@@maples328 I live in Canada and I have vehicles from the 90s and mid 2000s with no rust to speak of, but I will admit I'm more the exception than the rule. If I even see rust thinking of starting it's in the shop getting dealt with. Too damn expensive to buy new ones, cheaper to stay on top of it. I spend a fair amount of time at the car wash I guess.
@@maples328 I live in Detroit and most people don't bother with undercoating cars because the bodies themselves usually become rusty up here before the frames rot to the point of being unsafe. So once they start showing rust they become throw-away budget car lot and FB Marketplace hoopties that typically get the rust rattle-canned and/or covered with masking tape and resold to suckers.
Listening to Tyler floor the accelerator to racecourse decibels, while watching the scenery leisurely scrolling by, reminds me of the boy-racers in their Honda Civics, modified with a coffee can exhaust tip! 😄 All blow, but no go!
I had a 2003 Excursion Eddie Bauer Limited with the V10. I towed a horse trailer and a horse from Kansas City down to Branson. I barely got 7 mpg. I remember watching the gas gauge move. Without hauling anything I still only got about 10 mpg.
When the Fiero came out the seats were a high theft item. The local news did a segment on a guy whose seat were stolen and the thieves left behind a triangle chip of the seat plastic. When he got the replacement seats from a used parts place the seats had that same triangular missing piece of plastic. Not saying the parts and metal recyclers are in on it but more likely just don’t care.
I had a '92 Mustang back in the day, and one morning walked out to my car to find the taillight covers missing. Reported it to the MPs (this was on a military base pre-9/11) and found out somebody had come on post overnight & taken them off my car & three other Mustangs. Couldn't understand it until I actually found out how much the replacement units cost--they used one solid hunk of multi-colored plastic for each rear light assembly, and as a result were quite expensive and also very easy to install/pull off. But, yeah...stuff like that there was literally no reason to steal it other than to resell it on the used parts market.
@@Harv72b I had the tail lights and spare tire stolen from a rental car once. I figured someone was fixing a rear collision car of the same type and just drive around until they found one.
@@durtydan420 At the grocery store I always throw some money in the charity box at the cash register to make up for all the bad shat I did in my youth.
@@mikewilson7132 steal cat converters in a big city. You’ll never go to jail and make thousands a day. It’s unbelievable how we literally incentivize criminals now. What an amazing way to destroy a once great country
@@Trek2539 Ha I always post the timestamp to after the ads but I think he ends up shadow banning my comments because they show up for a little while and then they’re gone lol
Fun fact about your excursion. It’s GVWR is 9700 lbs. which means you don’t legally have to put a cat back on it because it isn’t classified as a light duty vehicle
@@davidmoushey6185 I'm 6'5" and my my daily is a volkswagen cc. Its pretty much a modified passat and i fit comfortably in it. The pedal is on the ground and that helps a bit. My secondary backup is a f150. Both I got plenty of leg room and the seats don't occupied the same area as the rear passenger.
When I went out to Iceland years ago, they had blacked out, lifted versions of these with massive tires, built for off-road rental. They were DOPE! You should build one of those. They were eye-catching to say the least.
Hi! I am a viewer from Colorado and military member new here. I am 20 years old and in need of a car! I have been looking at excursions since I got here because of co workers persuasion and I love them. It would be a blessing if I could get me hands on this beast!
My wife and I looked for a long time to find one with the diesel. Got the 6.o with bullet proof. Hauls the kids and the toys at the same time. Love it!
My ‘21 Tundra has been at the dealership for almost 3 months now waiting on a new exhaust from Toyota! The 5.7 V8 has 2 cats on each side. The thieves cut behind the flange, so the entire exhaust has to be replaced from the headers back to the tune of $7,000! Thankfully insurance is taking care of it for me, the dealership has been wonderful, and I’ve been able to drive a brand new 4Runner for the last few months so I’m not complaining!
I grew up in a small town with a very wealthy neighborhood. A lot of the residents there bought Excursions as status symbols, only to discover that they didn't fit in their garages, so in a short time dealers had a bunch of returned Excursions that nobody wanted. Brings back the memories 😂
In Texas those exact converters were going for 800-900$ at scrap places. Now there’s a law you have to have title to sell converters.. Stopped some of the plague.
I had a friend who had an rv with this motor and said he loved it pulled better then his 454 motorhome and would never go back to the 454 sold it and kept the v10
In 2004 we had to option to go gasser or diesel. The cost of gas was about $1.00 more than diesel. Still have the diesel. 200k miles and still scooting around with a boat or 5th wheel behind it. Still happy with our decision. My cousin had a v10 excursion. He got roughly 9mpg all day everyday.
The only Ford I've ever owned was a 01 250 v10hd 4x4. Bought it for 1500 bucks in 2010. Drove it for 2 years and sold it for 3k. Was actually a good truck
I always thought the catalytic converter theft was a thing only in the US, but now it happened to my own brother in Europe. Even when fixing it ourselves it costs over 300 EUR in parts alone, it's ridiculous.
Yeah it's happening in NZ and Australia too - criminals are getting worse world over unfortunately. As per what Hoovie says here, the police don't take it seriously, the courts don't take it seriously, even if they do get prosecuted, they are back on the streets in a few days, few weeks at most.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Because really how you gonna throw someone in jail for longer than that for stealing 300 dollars... It's a rock and a hard place here. I do think they need to do something harsher to curb this gigantic problem we're having with stolen catalytic converters... But I also understand why they aren't currently. Imo they need to punish the ones making it so lucrative to steal these things. The metal recycling places around me I don't even think they will take them if you come in with more than one, things like that... I can't say I've had any cats to recycle lately, but this is what I've heard. I think this is probably why I almost never hear about stolen cats around here!
@@derekspringer6448 For sure you don't want to be destroying some kids life because they are a stupid asshole one time for some money for pot - but they need to take a harder line with recidivist offenders - and it's more than just the 300 dollars, it's the fact they have violated someone by damaging their property and taking something that they worked for. And yeah, the fencers dealing in this stuff are also to blame. Ultimately the rise in petty crime like this, ram raids (which have gone off the charts here in NZ in the last year) convenience store hold ups etc - mostly organized by increasingly large and well resourced gangs - all yet another sign of Western society in decay I think.
The Excursion and Suburban would be perfect candidates for an EV Skateboard modification. They have so much free space under the car, and for EVs, bigger is better since more room=more batteries=more Range. They could even get three Nissan Leaf battery packs under an Excursion; if you convert the engine to a generator to charge them and have a wall plugin, you have a pretty capable Plugin Hybrid that runs like a Diesel Electric Locomotive.
I grew up in one of these. 2000 Excursion, V10, 2WD. Fantastic vehicle for a big family. 9 mpg around town, 13 hwy. Sold it with 200k miles still going strong after 18 years
I remember my neighbor had her washer and dryer moved around in the garage so she could park her excursion in the garage. That was her pride and joy. Along with her 6 kids she hauled around in it.
The V10 is the 2 valve Triton engine. A very good engine since it's from 2000. You can modify and adjust it to get better gas mileage or for more power. The solution to stealing cats is to have them installed close to the headers while having access near impossible with a saw. A plate on the underside would seal it.
I have a 2000 V10 4wd XLT, bought it 1 year old from a Hertz rental lot. At 178k it’s been a tow vehicle all it’s life and very dependable. Yes it gets 10 mpg while towing, but any gas truck will and it is cheap to maintain.
CA here, had our prius' cat stolen a few weeks ago. As said, it can be done in SECONDS and the prius is such an easy car to get up in the air that a 1 man team can walk up and be done with it in a moments notice. Not to mention the BS here in CA means that our replacement wasnt multiple hundreds, but multiple THOUSANDS not to mention the cat cage we *had* to get
Proof that government is always the problem not the solution. The reason theft is so prevalent to begin with is because of the inflation the government created.
Get some airbags for your Prius so whenever you park up you can lay frame, lot a harder to steal anything from under a car when you can’t get a jack under it
Before the video blows up, (like most tritons lol), let me say I'm in the middle of dropping one of these 6.8 v10s into a 58 Fairlane 500. Car is patina, and was a lowrider in the 80s. I can't wait to finish this swap and start showing it off. People sleep on these v10s. They don't sound amazing like the iconic Viper v10, but still neat to find a v10 with trans for $1k all day long. And to finish that statement, Ken Belle made a total of 1500, 2.3L supercharger kits for these v10s. Hard to track them down used, but these v10s are monsters with just a few psi of boost.
I was thinking about doing a V10 swap in my 96 Cobra - I recall forums in the mid 2000's showing conversion kits being sold. I really hope I can make it work once I actually have the $$ for it lol.
@@thatguychrs9587 Look up "Ford v10 Test mule" Ford actually built 1 or 2 New edge mustangs, stuffed with the 6.8 v10 and a 5 speed manual transmission. (The engine bay on the sn95s are almost the same size) The very few videos that exist of this car, are crazy. It looks like they never figured out how to get the New Edge to grab the pavement without roasting the tires 😂. That would be an amazing build. Call it the Mule2.0
Problem is they got that short deck on the heads and you can pop a spark plug pretty easy - shared with some of the Ford V8's of the same era, I've done it on two E-350 delivery vans (V8) and my '01 Excursion V10. Plugs are held in with like 3 threads. I also had my cat chopped off a few months back and just jimmied a couple of patch pieces together bcuz the local muffler shops aren't een answering their phones they're so busy. fkkn thieves.
@@gravit8ed Oh god, I can't imagine trying to do plugs on an E-Series v10. Lol. My engine was pulled from one, and honestly, it barely fits in a 58' engine bay. How ford got it to fit in an Econoline blows my mind. I would hate doing maintenance on one.
I own a beautiful blue with grey 2004 excursion stock it’s gas 2wd 210,000 miles have had it for about 6 years it is awesome never had any issues just normal wear and tear. It is worth spending payments in gas. 😅. No rust. You can call me irresponsible all day. But I do use it as it is my daily I don’t want anything else. I pulls trailers like a boss you don’t even know it’s there. I used to buy and sell campers. Great for hulling
So I was trying to describe your channel to my coworker and I found myself saying, "basically this guy makes horrible mistakes and his mechanic has to fix them" he got a good laugh at that and I think you have one more viewer. Honestly I meant no insult it was just hilarious when I said it aloud.
I've got the diesel version. I drive my three boys to all sorts of sporting events and there is plenty of room for all of their gear, etc. The thing is a tank. Love it.
I have an unnatural love for those V10s. Such a neat noise. Imagine that thing turned into a street rod? Lowered, maybe with a manual swap from an F250, all cleaned up and with side pipes letting that V10 sing.
Yeppers, build dream of mine is cramming a 6.8 in a mercury grand marquis and doing a "svt marauder" inspired clone. As if mercury put all the available factory fun into a 4 door tire shredding cruiser.
au contraire Hoovie! I just bought a 2008 Ford Excursion Fully loaded 4wd, Eddie Bauer edition for 1000$. So I bought the cheapest, clean title excursion in the usa. And theres nothing wrong with it, headed/cooled seats, front/rear climate control, 6 disc cd changer, chrome 20" factory wheels, weatherTech mats, excellent paint, interior leather. Spotless under the hood, runs perfect. Ac works fine. Now since this is a 5.4L 3 valve I'll be replacing all 24 roller follers - rocker arms with fords improved design that directs oil to the roller bearing and boost oil pressure to the phasers - thats what causes the blown engine when the roller rocker fails and knocks a valve keeper out. And no rust, clean frame!
Nice. Have the same truck. Someone also stole my cat. But I was told from the previous owner that the cat melted and had since been “cleared” out. So they stole an empty cat 😂
I remember seeing a black Limited Excursion at my school back in January. It was enormous! So big it couldn't fit in one parking space. Seeing these cars in Denmark is extremely rare, so I was thrilled to see one
I’m painting a rust free v10 excursion. The Arizona heat baked the paint right off. 269,000 miles all original just basic maintenance and runs great. Taking it to my second home in Alaska in June to live it life out up there. 3800 mile trip and I’m not worried one bit it won’t make it.
We work beside a mechanic shop and its amazing what you see come in. Can definitely hear a car with a missing catalytic converter! That place really helps when you need some work on the car done while you are at work
Some probably think it's cool that he has a passion for something. Others probably are jealous, and some probably mad about it. People come in all shapes and sizes lol. "life is like a box of chocolate you never know what you're going to get"
Every neighborhood has it's "weirdo" and you can bet there is a Karen in his subdivision who is utterly against Tyler and his business. For no reason at all.
When these came out I worked in the service department of a Chrysler Plymouth Dodge Jeep dealer and across the lot was the Ford Lincoln Mercury dealer. New cars were usually unloaded just across from my bay. It was always a spectacle watching these things get unloaded from the upper level of the transporters. They wouldn't fit on the lower level. It looked pretty precarious and maybe dangerous.
I bought my 2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3 DIESEL new. I was at the dealership when the carrier pulled up and watched it get driven off the top! Now, at 247,000 miles, it is THE BEST vehicle, of the 50 or so, I have owned.
Amen to that Mike. Our 2000 Limited 4x4 7.3L is one of my favorite vehs. I didn't buy it new like urself. I imagine u have gotten ur money's worth over few decades. I really like ours in bad weather. Drives on snow & ice as good as anything we've had. Good the mileage if you don't mash it at every lite. I can see why pple over pay for these. They are a great veh if you need what it offers. I had some Crack head/meth head try to steal our Catalytic converter. He got away, & was caught wks later, doing it again. Not sure if the Diesel Cat has any value, but it's really is a serious problem around here.. 😕
I have that exact model. Swap out the cast manifolds for jba shorty headers, straight bolt on to the existing exhaust. 30% horsepower increase, breathes do much better, went from 12 seconds 0-60 to 9 seconds. Mileage on the highway is better, in the city you just get there faster. 60 mph gets 14.5 - 16.5 mpg us. 70 mph is about 14.5 mpg Average city HWY is over 13. Heavy square box trailer about 10 mpg Had mine since new, now 22 years old, still solid used daily, 330000 km Also added a kn filter, bit never noticed a difference. We call it the pig. But really more like a tank. Killed three dear with it, only went to the shop once. Dear that sent it to the shop was hood height at the shoulder, 12" thick lying on the road. Best vehicle I have ever owned.
Back in the day I had to change a fuel pump on the side of the road. Much easier then with 2 bolts and the gas lines. Love how you were saying that you shouldn't buy these vehicles because it would be irresponsible due to gas mileage while having the Lamborghini Diablo sitting in frame. Obviously one is more irresponsible than the other.
You should turn this into a “trade up challenge” trade it to someone for a different vehicle, keep trading until you have something worth giving to someone who deserves a decent vehicle, could make a video about each car you trade into and maybe fix whatever things to make it a more Valuable trade
V10 Ford engine is a hunk of shiz... can't keep sparkplugs from blowing out.. and yeah, the 6MPH city.. put it in your front yard and tie a hippo to it..
Wizard saying that it’s a good thing that it’s not a 3v isn’t even something to worry about. The V10 never got cam phasers and the 3v gave it more power and it never really gained any more issues.
My dad owned one of these from 2002-2014. towed me, my 6 person family, 3 dogs, and our 10,000lbs, 32ft, 8 person sleeping camper, up an 18% grade dirt, root filled, pothole ridden driveway. Only got stuck when it was literally under a flash flood warning going up that hill.
My friend and i would love one of those for a towing vehicle for our car flipping venture were trying to do! Also, the 3V V10's didnt have the issues of the 5.4 3V, they didnt use the VCT or cam phasers, they were fixed timing like the 2V, they just had the two piece spark plugs is all. either way a great truck especially with that Sterling rear end
@@fifedog30 agreed, they are pretty amazing engines. A missed opportunity in performance even id argue with how stout they are. I’ve always wanted to swap one into a crown Vic or mustang. Some have but not many. Or into a RCSB F-150
If they still made these, we would buy one (in diesel). It would be perfect for pulling horses to various shows, and as a great road trip / vacation vehicle. For around town, we’ll just use an econobox that’s easier to park and gets great mileage.
@@frederiquekruger4818 I like the Touareg - but the wheel base is too small for pulling a live load (think of large horses moving around). For towing a static load (like a boat or something) it would be perfect. But yes - they're very nice and have enough torque to get the job done.
I have a crew cab, 4WD, F350, long bed, Warn bumper & winch combo...with the V10. It has Gibson TBC headers & side-exit exhaust with the SPD Y-pipe kit. It sounds like a WWII-era radial engine and a Subaru had a love child. It is also a 2-valver. No rot, rust, paint is in really good shape. The V10 still is a PITA, wish it was a 460, I have a love/hate relationship with the truck due to the engine
Hooovie loved the catalytic converter rant. Needed to be said and something has to be done. That 2000 Excursion would be a great project rig for conversion to an overland vehicle. I’d drive it all day. Thanks Hoovie for the great content.
I would also check the exhaust manifold studs and see how they look and if any are broken. Super common, and a good amount of work to resolve. Just finished redoing both sides on my 6.8l F250
I'm going through this now with my E350 on the exhaust sie, The mechanic says it's an engine out job to do. The van has 260,000 miles on it. It's a hugely expensive job. I don't think i'm going to do it.
Replace stock manifold with JBA shorty headers, straight bolt on, more flex n give to mate with the aluminum block so it won't blow the bolts like the cast iron manifolds. Put mine on at about 70k when the bolts were blowing, 330k now.
Those knobs on the Ford excursions and Superduties (I'm sure other similar models too) are notorious for falling off. I ended up 3D printing a glow-in-the-dark one for mine.
I absolutely love the Ford Excursions. Every time I get inside one, it's bigger than I can remember. I would really like to get one some day. The MPG is no big deal. You have to pay to play with the big boy toys.
exactly. I got one and I tell people the same thing you said. it's not for everyone. if your watching the gas Guage this isn't for you. I use mine for road trips and towing. and occasionally because I enjoy driving it. I commute to work with a smaller truck that gets about 8 more miles per gallon.
See, that right there is something I wholly agree with and why I find myself giving people (family included) weird looks when they question it (and boy did they pester me about it). Sure it doesn't get the GREATEST mileage but who buys a 7-8k lbs 3/4 ton and then complain that it isn't as economical as their suburban or crossover? Duh. Both of our family Subs get 12mpg (on a good day) and the family pickup is lucky to see 10mpg; all the while I'm sitting there seeing 13-14mpg (calculated at the pump) confused as to how I'M drawing the short straw.
The excursion was like the tipping point where manufacturers finally figured out how big was actually too big. The suburban was so big but was also such a success that ford thought they should do the same thing but a little bigger. But then it was never as popular as the suburban. It was just too big to be practical still. The suburban as huge as it is, can still fit into most spots meant for cars. It's the perfect giant suv.
I won't dispute that these were once in big demand, but that was a different time. I still remember reading in Autoweek a comment from a GM engineer something on the order of that in all the focus groups they'd ever done, no one ever asked for a Suburban to be 2 feet longer and 800 pounds heavier.
I worked for a major auto manufacturer in SoCal recently on a temp basis. My trainer brought up security on the site. He told me and the other new people of an incident involving catalytic converters. Months earlier on the overnight shift, thieves broke onto the site and gained access to where the cat's were stored. They used several forklifts to move maybe a couple dozen pallets full of converters to the front gate which was left unlocked where a tractor-trailer was waiting with its cargo doors opened. In a very short time they managed to steal hundreds of thousands (millions?) of dollars worth of catalytic converters. When it was discovered what had happened, the police were called. Apparently ALL of them.. When they looked at the surveillance footage, they discovered to their horror that all of the security cameras mysteriously had been turned off prior to the incident. The crooks knew exactly where the keys were to start the forklifts, and because the storage building was UNLOCKED walked right in. The story of what was taken and the circumstances was not reported in the media because of the embarrassing nature of the crime. To my knowledge, no one was ever arrested.
The 1989 Suburban I bought in like 2004 was rotted worse than this. In fact it was so bad, I was pulling on the tin of the tailgate to see if I could get the window down when the window broke and the tailgate then fell off entirely, the glass had been all that was holding it on. The whole rear body crossmember had rotted out. I wish I'd had a video camera then to show how I spent a few hours converting it to barn doors with basic tools, outside, in the winter, 100 miles from home. Anyways I drove that thing a long time, I put 50,000 miles on it and only parked it when the driver's front rocker was totally gone. The converter also leaked out all it's beads, supposedly. By then I'd swapped all the doors, the front clip and even pop riveted on slightly better lower quarters from a parts truck. It still ran great when I test drove it before I pulled the engine to put in another car.
Jail doesn't stop cat thieves, but you're right that we need to squash the market for them. If they become hard or impossible to sell, they will no longer be stolen.
That's why the feds need to get involved because I've heard that it's not really the junk yards buying them en masse, it's people loading up shipping containers with them and shipping them overseas somewhere to get the metal extracted so they don't run the risk of getting caught by the police. So they need to find a way to track the people who are organizing these cargo containers to be sent off.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r the loophole used now to sell more than one cat per day is having a government contract. Think about that. Government is the problem not the solution. Theft is so prevalent because of the inflation that the government created too.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r yeah, there is endless ways they will still sell them, and as america goes third world, anything will be able to be sold, I don't see cat theft stopping.
@@seanwieland9763 everyone knows most of the inflation we are seeing is companies taking advantage and charging more. Little guys gets screwed by the rich as always.
Wish I could find something this cheap and big near me. I have lived in my van since covid started until 2 months ago when the transmission went out. Sleeping in a tent sucks.
Hoovie, I would say your my #1 show on RUclips, I was in the car business for 28 years I love watching your channel along with Vin Wiki with Ed Bolian, when platinum motors was around (OC Lamborghini) my cousin Arman was his sales & finance & IT guy now he's a OC sheriff, towards the end of Lamborghini of O.C. he helped capture Veken that story is for another day, I'm retired from the car business now and boy do I have some stories for you. Keep up the great content love your channel Harry Toprakjian
You know, with the electric Hummer out, I bet they could make an electric Excursion and people would buy the crap out of it. It'd be inefficient as all heck, by electric standards, but still world's ahead of the old one in terms of ecological costs. And the best part would be no catalytic converters to steal!
@@joesmith9216 why hate them? Yes a lot of people don't use them for their intended use, but I've seen many Excursions on the road towing things like horse trailers, boats, farm equipment, ect
When this happened to mine, I just replaced it with a glass pack that basically fit perfectly where the cats were. Only needed the glass pack and two adapters. 👍🏻
They are never going to crack down on the thieves. They decriminalized grand theft auto in California, it's a misdemeanor now, you don't even do jail time for stealing a whole car so good luck on a piece of a car. We had a contractor's van stolen with $50K of tools in it and the cops didn't even show up when he called. Fill out a report and get your insurance. I guess insurance companies will need to cover a cat under a comp claim.
That isn't entirely true. It is a wobbler and could be prosecuted as either misdemeanor of felony with enhancements based on the value of the stolen property up to 5 years per offense. It has not been decriminalized.
The solution is to not own a car. I don't worry about maintenance, insurance, things getting stolen, parking tickets, etc. Then why do I watch Tyler's videos? He's fun to watch. And I do like cars, I have owned many in the past, they're fun to learn about, they are a pain in the ass to own though.
A couple years ago I bought an excursion for $1000 before COVID happened and the market boomed. I talked to the owner after I saw it sitting rotting away so I gave him an offer just to joke around with and he accepted. It had a bunch of rust but ran beautifully, had 200k miles but no engine lights and drove fine so I sold it for $4000 after giving it a bath
Hoovie gotta love your videos. Few months ago you said u we’re done buying cars but you give us all this wonderful content still lmao! Love your channel
This one hits close to home.. I also have a v10 excursion with the unplanned “cat delete” option 🤣.. I hate to see one so rusty like yours though.. fuel economy is poor but it can tow your cabin up north with all your kids and their friends inside. Nothing like it. More EPA rules for cat thefts ? Please God no.. how about local law enforcement doing their job and penalize the thieves. My state already requires copies of title to recycle converters.. so it’s really the catch and release policies that encourage the thefts.. imho.. 👍 good video
Bingo! Look at the crime demographics. There's a reason why only the young, the dumb, and the dead hang around someones rural property trying to steal. The same thief that will steal your CAT is the same person who will murder your mother or sister if they are caught and confronted in the act. The people making these "no cash bond" and rotate and release policies are knowingly committing murder when they knowingly release these people back out on the streets again and again. The blood of their innocent victims is upon their heads.
@@casualsuede the biggest issue in the frozen north is road salt and the new road brine liquid salt. It’s effective in as little as 10% humidity so even in un-heated garages it keeps cooking all winter long.. EPA requires car washes to recycle their water to some degree so we keep re-applying the liquid salt and it’s no wonder our vehicles only last 6-7 years before they are showing aggressive rust..
I'd love to see Tyler try using those plastic rocker cover overlays that I see advertise on RUclips all the time. Heck maybe they could be a sponsor. Their video shows them cutting out all the rust they can first before bonding the covers over the rusted areas and they are painted... Just a thought
@Jim jibroni yeah but he did say that the rockers that show if the doors are opened tend to be a cosmetic thing. From what I saw the underside of the truck appears to be ok and not a lot of “holes” or through rust so if the rockers are cosmetic then 🤷♂️
I couldn’t agree more on the cat thefts! 😓 a friend of mine who is broke and trying to raise two kids had his cat stolen off his only car. It’s just more setbacks for hardworking people. I spent 3 hours driving him around to run errands and I saw first hand how much it hurt him.
My dad got a diesel excursion for my mom when I was younger and she hated it n they sold it and got a pontiac Montana with the TV for me in the back 😉👍
I borrowed one of these for a youth group trip well over a decade ago, and I can remember watching the gas gauge move in real-time. Awesome truck, though!
Your comment is gold haha. “Move in real-time” has me cracking up
My uncle had the v10 around the same time. About 10 years ago.
Lifted on 40s, and getting on the freeway when he would step on it. It was like a joke he’d show his gas gauge lowering.
When gas was still under 2$ lol
@That V8 Life I want to put a 460 in my lowered 89 f150. Not ready for the gas mileage though lol
Lol I drove a prius for like 6months when I got into a Gas excursion I couldn't keep my eyes off the gas garage it was stressful...
I could watch the gas gauge drop on my 4.9 F150 4spd at 85mph. Gas gauge would just steadily tick down every 4 miles.. I live in Texas, believe it or not 85 was the speed limit lol
12:08 I saw something I never have seen before: An Excursion actually PASSING a gas station without stopping.
I'm sure he topped it off right before doing the video lol
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@@gorgosanma and then used it all to get up to 60 lol.
I get about 12mpg around town
What can you expect, its not exactly light, but it rides well.
🤣🤣🤣
In this market anything that moves is worth at least $4k
true lmao
Except the 200k mile midwest kept festiva i just found today. Still 1k lmao.
Old mercs and Audis still going for 2-3k.
@@GetOffMyLog lmao, I’m seeing 150k mile Festivas on Marketplace for $3,500
@@benchattin maybe asking that price but I doubt they actually bring that much...
weld-in replacement rocker panels and even floors are still in stock in the US for this generation of excursion for less than $100 for both sides.. it's surely worth putting an additional $2000-$3000 into this thing, to just replace the cat and stop the rust from getting any worse! it's super cool
"This is by far the loudest car that I currently own." Hoovie's neighbors: "We know."
@Jajajaja Jajajaja lmfao
the only thing I miss about my v10 ford was how it sounded with headers, a high flow cat, and magnaflow exhaust. skip the oe replacement cat and put in a high flow unit much cheaper
They did have an awesome sound. I did the same thing on my old F250 just skipped the cats.
V10s sound terrible
Why even bother with cats 🤨
Skip the CAT and re-tune to motor!!!
@@nielgregory108 no need to tune. It doesn't have a downstream O2 sensor and doesn't even know the cat is gone.
Hoovie: "Massive brake fluid leak, so not going to drive highway speeds"
Also Hoovie: " Well that is 60mph, sounds better than a viper"
Then proceeds to take it on the highway
@@BenjermenB I was gonna say the same thing when I seen him on the on ramp.
My went wasn't completely irresponsible because he said there's a dash light that warns when it gets low so he can pull over before an emergency braking situation
@@gaberansom7666 because emergency braking situations are so predictable.
@@vyrnmn what I ment was he knew when he had brake fluid, as soon as he saw the light come on, he could pull over. If that didnt happen he would have perfectly good brakes.
Worked on a v10 recently. Coils and plugs brought mpg up from 6.5 to 12.
@NintendoFan4Life not a chance. My arms and hands are still recovering.
@NintendoFan4Life There are magnets that clip onto the fuel line that tout 10% mpg improvements. What I do is clip 20 of them onto my fuel line. The only problem is I have to keep stopping to drain the tank when it overflows.
Yeah sounds about right, 9 city 12 hwy mpg was the factory rating.
You know when gas was less than 2 dollars a gallon 😵
I mean 12 MPG still isn’t good
@@thatfordguy2268 BIL thought he had a fuel leak before I worked on it
We had several of these at FEMA for emergency and they are a beast as they hauled a lot of gear. Very useful and also comfortable when the environment we were in were not.
Which engines did you have on the FEMA ones?
My wife's 2003 Excursion is a v10 with 176000(est) miles and it is the best vehicle we could possibly ask for with 4 children.
I own a 2000 F250 V10 with 220000(est) miles.
She had a 2020 Enclave and I had a 2019 Ram Laramie. We decided to stop paying vehicle payments and got older vehicles that we didn't need to pay on and that I could fix myself. Love em both.
The “recycling facilities” that accept and pay money for these are equally criminal. Make them quit paying thieves and only truly recycled cats will result.
The loophole used to sell more than one cat per day is having a government contract. Think about that. Government (and the inflation they created) is the cause of this problem in the first place.
I agree, but it’s tough. I have legitimately sold cats (had to replace on a truck, and chose to upgrade on a car). I waited until prices were up and sold all 4. When I sold I had to let them scan my license to look for a pattern. I think this makes sense. If you want to sell more than once per year then you are flagged and need to explain. If you can show ownership of the cars like I could then no issue. If not EPA handles it (like hoovie said this makes it federal, plus the epa has more power than the police)
That may work, but then the environmental recycling specialists will branch out to the next leading cause of, "Climate Change, the dreaded copper tubing in central air units!
@@DustinHasVideos I think we need less authority to the alphabet soup agencies and more state and local laws and enforcement. Are the areas that are having such theft problems the same ones who refuse to create laws or refuse to enforce laws? We have entire cities now refusing to enforce petty theft all the way up to car theft. Fining the thieves and then releasing them is nothing more than the state taking it's cut of the theft ring. Corrupt evil people are the problem. They rule the government and use these thieves, murderers, and pedophiles as their pawns to control society out of fear. So giving the same people more authority to "fix" the very problem they created is not the answer.
@@DustinHasVideos From the way I've heard Americans describe then, the EPA has more power than god!
Neighbors all love that open exhaust, fuel gauge moves as fast as speedometer needle when accelerating
40 gallon tank it doesn't move as much as people say. I haul a 25' toy hauler and get like 7.5mpg with a 7,000lb tow
sounds like my boat...at full throttle I burnt 2 gallons per mile.
@@gravit8ed 7.5 mpg makes my awful 12 not seem so bad.
Sounds like the douchenozzles near me in their Dodge Chargers...
I live in Oregon and my Father-in-Law owns a junkyard. They are cracking down HARD here. No more selling cats without full paperwork. He has to have VIN numbers attached to every Cat, and can only sell to a handful of authorized people who process them. Unfortunately he still gets calls regularly asking if he 'wants to buy some cats'. . .which as a dismantler he is not allowed to do due to the new regulations.
Not to say this has stopped it, but it is definitely helping.
We have the same laws in the UK even for normal scrape metal and wiring including pipes and lead. It's to stop people stripping buildings out or stealing cats. Nothing can be sold for cash has to be tracked
Vehicle seller: “It has over 200,000 miles, lots of rust, someone stole the cat off it, and it gets 6mpg. Tyler: “Shut up and take my money! 😂
It’s never ceases to impress me how quickly and yet throughly wizard is able to diagnose issues. Crazy talented mechanic.
Those v10's sound pretty nice with a good exhaust system.
My dad has one that screams. We have a 4 inch borla atak on it
I had a 99 F350 dually with a V10. I had a Flowmaster single in, dual out with the tips at an angle on the rear corners. It sounded so good. 3,000 rpms sounded like it was turning about 9,000. It was a hoot pulling a 38' camper weighing about 11,000 pounds.
The catalytic converter on the V-10s brings about $500 in a junkyard. First thing to get stolen if unguarded.
Would it be weird to put a race exhaust on my v10 dump truck? I wannnnaaaaa. Throw the cats on my Mustang that didn't pass emissions. 😂
Chances are that Excursion came with the factory running boards which is what caused the rockers to rust so badly. Common issue with those boards.
If you live north of KY, they need serious 🧐 rust protection (any vehicle) I’m always amazed how people that live in those areas don’t give a F about preventing their vehicles from rusting out . My father in law bought a beauty of a truck (not being sarcastic, it was nice) 🛻 that literally cracked in half. Found out they brought it down here (AL) from OH.
I think that is every car out there that has something plastic cover the rocker panels and lives in a place with alot of salt
@@maples328 I’m not far from you and while I agree, some cars are designed and built way worse than others
@@maples328 I live in Canada and I have vehicles from the 90s and mid 2000s with no rust to speak of, but I will admit I'm more the exception than the rule. If I even see rust thinking of starting it's in the shop getting dealt with. Too damn expensive to buy new ones, cheaper to stay on top of it. I spend a fair amount of time at the car wash I guess.
@@maples328 I live in Detroit and most people don't bother with undercoating cars because the bodies themselves usually become rusty up here before the frames rot to the point of being unsafe. So once they start showing rust they become throw-away budget car lot and FB Marketplace hoopties that typically get the rust rattle-canned and/or covered with masking tape and resold to suckers.
I smiled when I saw the oil drain plug right next to the oil filter. Simplicity with no need to break your wrist in three places.
I own one. The spot where the oil filter is a bit tough haha
The problem is it dumps right on to the sway bar.
Listening to Tyler floor the accelerator to racecourse decibels, while watching the scenery leisurely scrolling by, reminds me of the boy-racers in their Honda Civics, modified with a coffee can exhaust tip! 😄
All blow, but no go!
I had a 2003 Excursion Eddie Bauer Limited with the V10. I towed a horse trailer and a horse from Kansas City down to Branson. I barely got 7 mpg. I remember watching the gas gauge move. Without hauling anything I still only got about 10 mpg.
When the Fiero came out the seats were a high theft item. The local news did a segment on a guy whose seat were stolen and the thieves left behind a triangle chip of the seat plastic. When he got the replacement seats from a used parts place the seats had that same triangular missing piece of plastic. Not saying the parts and metal recyclers are in on it but more likely just don’t care.
I had a '92 Mustang back in the day, and one morning walked out to my car to find the taillight covers missing. Reported it to the MPs (this was on a military base pre-9/11) and found out somebody had come on post overnight & taken them off my car & three other Mustangs. Couldn't understand it until I actually found out how much the replacement units cost--they used one solid hunk of multi-colored plastic for each rear light assembly, and as a result were quite expensive and also very easy to install/pull off.
But, yeah...stuff like that there was literally no reason to steal it other than to resell it on the used parts market.
@@Harv72b I had the tail lights and spare tire stolen from a rental car once. I figured someone was fixing a rear collision car of the same type and just drive around until they found one.
@@ducknorris233 I may or may not have done this for a tailgate in my youth.......🤣
@@durtydan420 At the grocery store I always throw some money in the charity box at the cash register to make up for all the bad shat I did in my youth.
Likely run by organised crime. All the panel beaters near me are involved with bikies.
Hoovie is the one car RUclipsr I just can't get enough of. You could upload 10 videos a day and id watch them all in 1 sitting
i just want his money to be able to do what he does
I was literally gonna comment the same thing, his content is just so entertaining and relatable 😂
@@mikewilson7132 steal cat converters in a big city. You’ll never go to jail and make thousands a day. It’s unbelievable how we literally incentivize criminals now. What an amazing way to destroy a once great country
Just gotta skip the 90 second ads first
@@Trek2539 Ha I always post the timestamp to after the ads but I think he ends up shadow banning my comments because they show up for a little while and then they’re gone lol
Fun fact about your excursion. It’s GVWR is 9700 lbs. which means you don’t legally have to put a cat back on it because it isn’t classified as a light duty vehicle
Good to know! My Mustang needs new cats I'll steal them off my F350 😂. They'll have the Ford stamp so they can't complain at the emissions station 😂
Tell that to Cali. Lol
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No it's not dude, only the diesels are rated that high. The gas engine excursions are rated at 8,600
I really miss my 03 Excursion. It was probably the only vehicle that my 6'7" chassis fit into comfortably. Should have never sold it...
Shouldn’t have
I'm 6'6 and drive a ford focus lol. I once got stuck in the back seat for like 15 min. Literally stuck
F-250 would be friendly to your frame I think. Friend of mine is around your height and drive one.
@@FelonyChris lmao how??
@@davidmoushey6185 I'm 6'5" and my my daily is a volkswagen cc. Its pretty much a modified passat and i fit comfortably in it. The pedal is on the ground and that helps a bit. My secondary backup is a f150. Both I got plenty of leg room and the seats don't occupied the same area as the rear passenger.
"should they make the Excursion again?" Hell yes they should!
When I went out to Iceland years ago, they had blacked out, lifted versions of these with massive tires, built for off-road rental. They were DOPE! You should build one of those. They were eye-catching to say the least.
I respect you for not putting "lemons" or death traps back on the road even if you lose money on it
Tyler: don’t worry I won’t drive it on the highway.
Also Tyler: flooring it up the on ramp of the highway. 🤣🤣🤣
He forgot he said that because he's a stoner
🤣🤣🤣
Hi! I am a viewer from Colorado and military member new here. I am 20 years old and in need of a car! I have been looking at excursions since I got here because of co workers persuasion and I love them. It would be a blessing if I could get me hands on this beast!
My wife and I looked for a long time to find one with the diesel. Got the 6.o with bullet proof. Hauls the kids and the toys at the same time. Love it!
My ‘21 Tundra has been at the dealership for almost 3 months now waiting on a new exhaust from Toyota! The 5.7 V8 has 2 cats on each side. The thieves cut behind the flange, so the entire exhaust has to be replaced from the headers back to the tune of $7,000!
Thankfully insurance is taking care of it for me, the dealership has been wonderful, and I’ve been able to drive a brand new 4Runner for the last few months so I’m not complaining!
I grew up in a small town with a very wealthy neighborhood. A lot of the residents there bought Excursions as status symbols, only to discover that they didn't fit in their garages, so in a short time dealers had a bunch of returned Excursions that nobody wanted. Brings back the memories 😂
WEALTHY NEIGHBORS WITH SMALL GARAGES🤔
@@Montyhugo Garages in the 80s and 90s weren't designed for the length and height of the Excursion
They were actually designed to fit in garages! Just under 7ft tall and just shy of 20ft. The real reason was they couldn’t drive such a big vehicle!
@@dodgeguyz Sort of like how I've never seen anyone fit two cars in a two-car garage? 😂 Theoretically they should fit...
LOL, odd, no one bought them in my upper class hood, they bought expoditions though, or land rovers.
In Texas those exact converters were going for 800-900$ at scrap places.
Now there’s a law you have to have title to sell converters.. Stopped some of the plague.
17:50 the whistlin diesel reference caught me off guard 😂😂
I had the Triton V10 in a motorhome once. Never again. Lesson learned.
What happened man ?
I'm guessing 2 gallons per mile happened
Yeah dude, 20 years of further engine development and a 10-speed transmission work wonders.@@ebindy2877
I had a friend who had an rv with this motor and said he loved it pulled better then his 454 motorhome and would never go back to the 454 sold it and kept the v10
In 2004 we had to option to go gasser or diesel. The cost of gas was about $1.00 more than diesel. Still have the diesel. 200k miles and still scooting around with a boat or 5th wheel behind it. Still happy with our decision. My cousin had a v10 excursion. He got roughly 9mpg all day everyday.
Fifth wheel??? You mean travel trailer
fifth wheel behind an suv???
I get that in my semi....loaded
It’s a super duty. Same underbody and power train
@@charlieberra4959 lol no I’m saying I own a super duty. Not an excursion
The only Ford I've ever owned was a 01 250 v10hd 4x4. Bought it for 1500 bucks in 2010. Drove it for 2 years and sold it for 3k. Was actually a good truck
I always thought the catalytic converter theft was a thing only in the US, but now it happened to my own brother in Europe. Even when fixing it ourselves it costs over 300 EUR in parts alone, it's ridiculous.
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Yeah it's happening in NZ and Australia too - criminals are getting worse world over unfortunately. As per what Hoovie says here, the police don't take it seriously, the courts don't take it seriously, even if they do get prosecuted, they are back on the streets in a few days, few weeks at most.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Because really how you gonna throw someone in jail for longer than that for stealing 300 dollars... It's a rock and a hard place here. I do think they need to do something harsher to curb this gigantic problem we're having with stolen catalytic converters... But I also understand why they aren't currently.
Imo they need to punish the ones making it so lucrative to steal these things. The metal recycling places around me I don't even think they will take them if you come in with more than one, things like that... I can't say I've had any cats to recycle lately, but this is what I've heard. I think this is probably why I almost never hear about stolen cats around here!
@@derekspringer6448 For sure you don't want to be destroying some kids life because they are a stupid asshole one time for some money for pot - but they need to take a harder line with recidivist offenders - and it's more than just the 300 dollars, it's the fact they have violated someone by damaging their property and taking something that they worked for. And yeah, the fencers dealing in this stuff are also to blame.
Ultimately the rise in petty crime like this, ram raids (which have gone off the charts here in NZ in the last year) convenience store hold ups etc - mostly organized by increasingly large and well resourced gangs - all yet another sign of Western society in decay I think.
Happens in the UK too. Thieves at night stop outside a car, Jack it up, cut the cats off and go before the police can get there.
The Excursion and Suburban would be perfect candidates for an EV Skateboard modification. They have so much free space under the car, and for EVs, bigger is better since more room=more batteries=more Range. They could even get three Nissan Leaf battery packs under an Excursion; if you convert the engine to a generator to charge them and have a wall plugin, you have a pretty capable Plugin Hybrid that runs like a Diesel Electric Locomotive.
I'd take it in a heartbeat. Been dreaming of one for years but prices have been climbing for a while now.
Hoping to get one soon 🙏🏻
I grew up in one of these. 2000 Excursion, V10, 2WD. Fantastic vehicle for a big family. 9 mpg around town, 13 hwy. Sold it with 200k miles still going strong after 18 years
Sounds like the cheapest LFA in the USA
Sounds the best of the whole hooptie fleet, dont change that Tyler.
Go listen to a clip of an LFA to see how wrong this comment is
Only a matter of time till that happens for real.
More like, it sounds like a VQ with a few more cylinders lol. Too much trumpet sound to be LFA
dude that sounds ntg like LFA🤣 not every V10 is equal, cant compare Yamaha tuned V10 with a lazy american 5000rpm V10🤣
I remember my neighbor had her washer and dryer moved around in the garage so she could park her excursion in the garage. That was her pride and joy. Along with her 6 kids she hauled around in it.
@James Deam California cars. No rust.
That must have been a huge garage. My little Mazda B3000 pickup barely fits in my garage with nothing in the way.
@@mattmayo3539 nope, ford will rust in arizona.
@@joesmith9216 there’s always surface rust if you don’t undercoat. Mine doesn’t have any rust.
The V10 is the 2 valve Triton engine. A very good engine since it's from 2000. You can modify and adjust it to get better gas mileage or for more power.
The solution to stealing cats is to have them installed close to the headers while having access near impossible with a saw. A plate on the underside would seal it.
Mine is that, really work nice with the JBA shorty headers
I have a 2000 V10 4wd XLT, bought it 1 year old from a Hertz rental lot.
At 178k it’s been a tow vehicle all it’s life and very dependable.
Yes it gets 10 mpg while towing, but any gas truck will and it is cheap to maintain.
CA here, had our prius' cat stolen a few weeks ago. As said, it can be done in SECONDS and the prius is such an easy car to get up in the air that a 1 man team can walk up and be done with it in a moments notice. Not to mention the BS here in CA means that our replacement wasnt multiple hundreds, but multiple THOUSANDS
not to mention the cat cage we *had* to get
Proof that government is always the problem not the solution. The reason theft is so prevalent to begin with is because of the inflation the government created.
Get some airbags for your Prius so whenever you park up you can lay frame, lot a harder to steal anything from under a car when you can’t get a jack under it
Did you vote for it?
@@Fhwgads11 costs more than a new car though, plus they would have to get some wheels to go with it
Lmfao who buys a prius? Ahaha
Before the video blows up, (like most tritons lol), let me say I'm in the middle of dropping one of these 6.8 v10s into a 58 Fairlane 500. Car is patina, and was a lowrider in the 80s. I can't wait to finish this swap and start showing it off.
People sleep on these v10s. They don't sound amazing like the iconic Viper v10, but still neat to find a v10 with trans for $1k all day long. And to finish that statement, Ken Belle made a total of 1500, 2.3L supercharger kits for these v10s. Hard to track them down used, but these v10s are monsters with just a few psi of boost.
I was thinking about doing a V10 swap in my 96 Cobra - I recall forums in the mid 2000's showing conversion kits being sold. I really hope I can make it work once I actually have the $$ for it lol.
@@thatguychrs9587 Look up "Ford v10 Test mule"
Ford actually built 1 or 2 New edge mustangs, stuffed with the 6.8 v10 and a 5 speed manual transmission. (The engine bay on the sn95s are almost the same size) The very few videos that exist of this car, are crazy. It looks like they never figured out how to get the New Edge to grab the pavement without roasting the tires 😂. That would be an amazing build. Call it the Mule2.0
Problem is they got that short deck on the heads and you can pop a spark plug pretty easy - shared with some of the Ford V8's of the same era, I've done it on two E-350 delivery vans (V8) and my '01 Excursion V10. Plugs are held in with like 3 threads.
I also had my cat chopped off a few months back and just jimmied a couple of patch pieces together bcuz the local muffler shops aren't een answering their phones they're so busy. fkkn thieves.
@@gravit8ed Oh god, I can't imagine trying to do plugs on an E-Series v10. Lol. My engine was pulled from one, and honestly, it barely fits in a 58' engine bay. How ford got it to fit in an Econoline blows my mind. I would hate doing maintenance on one.
“I’m definitely not taking this thing at Highway speeds”… few minutes later he’s merging onto the highway lmao
I own a beautiful blue with grey 2004 excursion stock it’s gas 2wd 210,000 miles have had it for about 6 years it is awesome never had any issues just normal wear and tear. It is worth spending payments in gas. 😅. No rust. You can call me irresponsible all day. But I do use it as it is my daily I don’t want anything else. I pulls trailers like a boss you don’t even know it’s there. I used to buy and sell campers. Great for hulling
So I was trying to describe your channel to my coworker and I found myself saying, "basically this guy makes horrible mistakes and his mechanic has to fix them" he got a good laugh at that and I think you have one more viewer. Honestly I meant no insult it was just hilarious when I said it aloud.
I've got the diesel version. I drive my three boys to all sorts of sporting events and there is plenty of room for all of their gear, etc. The thing is a tank. Love it.
The 7.3L is the way too go.
Most suvs can do that, unless your boys do kayaking or sth like that
Mine is v10 like this one, headers, not bad mileage, yes, a tank. Four tons empty.
I’ve drove my v10 excursion every day for 3 years. Absolutely love it
I have an unnatural love for those V10s. Such a neat noise. Imagine that thing turned into a street rod? Lowered, maybe with a manual swap from an F250, all cleaned up and with side pipes letting that V10 sing.
make it happen jake
your driveway isn't big enough for that monster Jake
Yes Yes Yes l agree!!!
Yeppers, build dream of mine is cramming a 6.8 in a mercury grand marquis and doing a "svt marauder" inspired clone. As if mercury put all the available factory fun into a 4 door tire shredding cruiser.
FUCKIN YES BROTHER
3v without variable cam timing sounds better and revs better. 2v start gasping for air at 4K rpms.
Some wizard getting the spark plug issues mixed up.
I would have kept it loud we don’t have inspections here or smog so I’d be fitting in with all the other catless vehicles around here
au contraire Hoovie! I just bought a 2008 Ford Excursion Fully loaded 4wd, Eddie Bauer edition for 1000$.
So I bought the cheapest, clean title excursion in the usa.
And theres nothing wrong with it, headed/cooled seats, front/rear climate control, 6 disc cd changer, chrome 20" factory wheels, weatherTech mats, excellent paint, interior leather. Spotless under the hood, runs perfect. Ac works fine.
Now since this is a 5.4L 3 valve I'll be replacing all 24 roller follers - rocker arms with fords improved design that directs oil to the roller bearing and boost oil pressure to the phasers - thats what causes the blown engine when the roller rocker fails and knocks a valve keeper out.
And no rust, clean frame!
No such thing as a 2008 excursion
Nice. Have the same truck. Someone also stole my cat. But I was told from the previous owner that the cat melted and had since been “cleared” out. So they stole an empty cat 😂
I remember seeing a black Limited Excursion at my school back in January. It was enormous! So big it couldn't fit in one parking space. Seeing these cars in Denmark is extremely rare, so I was thrilled to see one
I’m painting a rust free v10 excursion. The Arizona heat baked the paint right off. 269,000 miles all original just basic maintenance and runs great. Taking it to my second home in Alaska in June to live it life out up there. 3800 mile trip and I’m not worried one bit it won’t make it.
We work beside a mechanic shop and its amazing what you see come in. Can definitely hear a car with a missing catalytic converter! That place really helps when you need some work on the car done while you are at work
Dang! That would make a great winter drive around town rig. 2 grand plus repairs, great value!
I wonder what Tyler’s neighbors think of him and his cars lol
Nobody cares honestly. They are all self-absorbed. Look at the neighborhood. LMAO
Some probably think it's cool that he has a passion for something. Others probably are jealous, and some probably mad about it. People come in all shapes and sizes lol. "life is like a box of chocolate you never know what you're going to get"
Every neighborhood has it's "weirdo" and you can bet there is a Karen in his subdivision who is utterly against Tyler and his business. For no reason at all.
I’ll bet the phrase “F’in You Tubers!” has become muscle memory for most of them.
Look Ethel, that rich kid has bought another loud piece of junk!
When these came out I worked in the service department of a Chrysler Plymouth Dodge Jeep dealer and across the lot was the Ford Lincoln Mercury dealer. New cars were usually unloaded just across from my bay. It was always a spectacle watching these things get unloaded from the upper level of the transporters. They wouldn't fit on the lower level. It looked pretty precarious and maybe dangerous.
I bought my 2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3 DIESEL new. I was at the dealership when the carrier pulled up and watched it get driven off the top! Now, at 247,000 miles, it is THE BEST vehicle, of the 50 or so, I have owned.
Amen to that Mike. Our 2000 Limited 4x4 7.3L is one of my favorite vehs. I didn't buy it new like urself. I imagine u have gotten ur money's worth over few decades. I really like ours in bad weather. Drives on snow & ice as good as anything we've had. Good the mileage if you don't mash it at every lite. I can see why pple over pay for these. They are a great veh if you need what it offers. I had some Crack head/meth head try to steal our Catalytic converter. He got away, & was caught wks later, doing it again. Not sure if the Diesel Cat has any value, but it's really is a serious problem around here.. 😕
I have that exact model. Swap out the cast manifolds for jba shorty headers, straight bolt on to the existing exhaust. 30% horsepower increase, breathes do much better, went from 12 seconds 0-60 to 9 seconds.
Mileage on the highway is better, in the city you just get there faster.
60 mph gets 14.5 - 16.5 mpg us.
70 mph is about 14.5 mpg
Average city HWY is over 13.
Heavy square box trailer about 10 mpg
Had mine since new, now 22 years old, still solid used daily, 330000 km
Also added a kn filter, bit never noticed a difference.
We call it the pig. But really more like a tank.
Killed three dear with it, only went to the shop once. Dear that sent it to the shop was hood height at the shoulder, 12" thick lying on the road.
Best vehicle I have ever owned.
I had a 02 250 with the v10 and it liked oil and gas. Bought it at 5k miles and sold it with 150k for 7500. It was a decent truck dispite the issues.
Back in the day I had to change a fuel pump on the side of the road. Much easier then with 2 bolts and the gas lines.
Love how you were saying that you shouldn't buy these vehicles because it would be irresponsible due to gas mileage while having the Lamborghini Diablo sitting in frame. Obviously one is more irresponsible than the other.
You should turn this into a “trade up challenge” trade it to someone for a different vehicle, keep trading until you have something worth giving to someone who deserves a decent vehicle, could make a video about each car you trade into and maybe fix whatever things to make it a more Valuable trade
dude that is a great idea for tyler
plus great content
Yes…
V10 Ford engine is a hunk of shiz... can't keep sparkplugs from blowing out.. and yeah, the 6MPH city.. put it in your front yard and tie a hippo to it..
I'd suggest a pair of water buffalo. Hippos are way too aggressive.
My hippo died. The Excursion hasn't.
Wizard saying that it’s a good thing that it’s not a 3v isn’t even something to worry about. The V10 never got cam phasers and the 3v gave it more power and it never really gained any more issues.
My dad owned one of these from 2002-2014. towed me, my 6 person family, 3 dogs, and our 10,000lbs, 32ft, 8 person sleeping camper, up an 18% grade dirt, root filled, pothole ridden driveway. Only got stuck when it was literally under a flash flood warning going up that hill.
My friend and i would love one of those for a towing vehicle for our car flipping venture were trying to do!
Also, the 3V V10's didnt have the issues of the 5.4 3V, they didnt use the VCT or cam phasers, they were fixed timing like the 2V, they just had the two piece spark plugs is all. either way a great truck especially with that Sterling rear end
Thank you. I hate the bad rap the V10's get. Very stout, long lived engines.
@@fifedog30 agreed, they are pretty amazing engines. A missed opportunity in performance even id argue with how stout they are. I’ve always wanted to swap one into a crown Vic or mustang. Some have but not many. Or into a RCSB F-150
I sold my catlytic converter a month ago here in Indiana and they required my id and the vehicles title it seemed like a pretty good system
If they still made these, we would buy one (in diesel). It would be perfect for pulling horses to various shows, and as a great road trip / vacation vehicle. For around town, we’ll just use an econobox that’s easier to park and gets great mileage.
You could get a V10 Turbo Diesel Volkswagen Touareg. They are nice cars that have plenty of torque.
@@frederiquekruger4818 I like the Touareg - but the wheel base is too small for pulling a live load (think of large horses moving around). For towing a static load (like a boat or something) it would be perfect. But yes - they're very nice and have enough torque to get the job done.
You don’t want modern day diesel nothing but headaches with the emissions requirement
Just buy a superduty.
@@ak2112 Borrowed one. Won't fit in the garage.
I have a crew cab, 4WD, F350, long bed, Warn bumper & winch combo...with the V10. It has Gibson TBC headers & side-exit exhaust with the SPD Y-pipe kit. It sounds like a WWII-era radial engine and a Subaru had a love child.
It is also a 2-valver. No rot, rust, paint is in really good shape. The V10 still is a PITA, wish it was a 460, I have a love/hate relationship with the truck due to the engine
Hooovie loved the catalytic converter rant. Needed to be said and something has to be done.
That 2000 Excursion would be a great project rig for conversion to an overland vehicle. I’d drive it all day. Thanks Hoovie for the great content.
mileage matters when overlanding lol
I would also check the exhaust manifold studs and see how they look and if any are broken. Super common, and a good amount of work to resolve. Just finished redoing both sides on my 6.8l F250
I'm going through this now with my E350 on the exhaust sie, The mechanic says it's an engine out job to do. The van has 260,000 miles on it. It's a hugely expensive job. I don't think i'm going to do it.
Replace stock manifold with JBA shorty headers, straight bolt on, more flex n give to mate with the aluminum block so it won't blow the bolts like the cast iron manifolds. Put mine on at about 70k when the bolts were blowing, 330k now.
@@kentwilkens3435 I think the issue is that the bolts behind the frame are broken and they can't get to them to drill them out.
I’ll take it! My cars way to small and I’m 6ft 6in with a bad back. My little focus is getting hard to get in and out of.
I love this type of content! Cheap cars us average people could buy!
But can't afford to fuel.
I don’t know if there’s a place I’d feel less safe than walking under an excursion on that lift
How about Hoovie's Baja from a few months ago?
Those knobs on the Ford excursions and Superduties (I'm sure other similar models too) are notorious for falling off. I ended up 3D printing a glow-in-the-dark one for mine.
hoovie, you should absolutely do a Fummins conversion on this thing
I absolutely love the Ford Excursions. Every time I get inside one, it's bigger than I can remember. I would really like to get one some day. The MPG is no big deal. You have to pay to play with the big boy toys.
exactly. I got one and I tell people the same thing you said. it's not for everyone. if your watching the gas Guage this isn't for you. I use mine for road trips and towing. and occasionally because I enjoy driving it. I commute to work with a smaller truck that gets about 8 more miles per gallon.
See, that right there is something I wholly agree with and why I find myself giving people (family included) weird looks when they question it (and boy did they pester me about it). Sure it doesn't get the GREATEST mileage but who buys a 7-8k lbs 3/4 ton and then complain that it isn't as economical as their suburban or crossover? Duh. Both of our family Subs get 12mpg (on a good day) and the family pickup is lucky to see 10mpg; all the while I'm sitting there seeing 13-14mpg (calculated at the pump) confused as to how I'M drawing the short straw.
The excursion was like the tipping point where manufacturers finally figured out how big was actually too big. The suburban was so big but was also such a success that ford thought they should do the same thing but a little bigger. But then it was never as popular as the suburban. It was just too big to be practical still. The suburban as huge as it is, can still fit into most spots meant for cars. It's the perfect giant suv.
I won't dispute that these were once in big demand, but that was a different time. I still remember reading in Autoweek a comment from a GM engineer something on the order of that in all the focus groups they'd ever done, no one ever asked for a Suburban to be 2 feet longer and 800 pounds heavier.
The Excursions are better in all ways
I worked for a major auto manufacturer in SoCal recently on a temp basis.
My trainer brought up security on the site.
He told me and the other new people of an incident involving catalytic converters.
Months earlier on the overnight shift, thieves broke onto the site and gained access to where the cat's were stored. They used several forklifts to move maybe a couple dozen pallets full of converters to the front gate which was left unlocked where a tractor-trailer was waiting with its cargo doors opened.
In a very short time they managed to steal hundreds of thousands (millions?) of dollars worth of catalytic converters.
When it was discovered what had happened, the police were called. Apparently ALL of them..
When they looked at the surveillance footage, they discovered to their horror that all of the security cameras mysteriously had been turned off prior to the incident.
The crooks knew exactly where the keys were to start the forklifts, and because the storage building was UNLOCKED walked right in.
The story of what was taken and the circumstances was not reported in the media because of the embarrassing nature of the crime.
To my knowledge, no one was ever arrested.
The 1989 Suburban I bought in like 2004 was rotted worse than this. In fact it was so bad, I was pulling on the tin of the tailgate to see if I could get the window down when the window broke and the tailgate then fell off entirely, the glass had been all that was holding it on. The whole rear body crossmember had rotted out. I wish I'd had a video camera then to show how I spent a few hours converting it to barn doors with basic tools, outside, in the winter, 100 miles from home.
Anyways I drove that thing a long time, I put 50,000 miles on it and only parked it when the driver's front rocker was totally gone. The converter also leaked out all it's beads, supposedly. By then I'd swapped all the doors, the front clip and even pop riveted on slightly better lower quarters from a parts truck. It still ran great when I test drove it before I pulled the engine to put in another car.
Jail doesn't stop cat thieves, but you're right that we need to squash the market for them. If they become hard or impossible to sell, they will no longer be stolen.
That's why the feds need to get involved because I've heard that it's not really the junk yards buying them en masse, it's people loading up shipping containers with them and shipping them overseas somewhere to get the metal extracted so they don't run the risk of getting caught by the police. So they need to find a way to track the people who are organizing these cargo containers to be sent off.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r the loophole used now to sell more than one cat per day is having a government contract. Think about that. Government is the problem not the solution. Theft is so prevalent because of the inflation that the government created too.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r yeah, there is endless ways they will still sell them, and as america goes third world, anything will be able to be sold, I don't see cat theft stopping.
So with that logic, let's just do away with jails then? I don't think they stop many crimes, if any. Except that isn't really the point of jail.
@@seanwieland9763 everyone knows most of the inflation we are seeing is companies taking advantage and charging more. Little guys gets screwed by the rich as always.
Wish I could find something this cheap and big near me. I have lived in my van since covid started until 2 months ago when the transmission went out. Sleeping in a tent sucks.
You'll make it my man
That Excursion would make a great over-landing rig for anyone into that sort of thing.
They really do as long as you make sure you have room to maneuver it.
Hoovie, I would say your my #1 show on RUclips, I was in the car business for 28 years I love watching your channel along with Vin Wiki with Ed Bolian, when platinum motors was around (OC Lamborghini) my cousin Arman was his sales & finance & IT guy now he's a OC sheriff, towards the end of Lamborghini of O.C. he helped capture Veken that story is for another day, I'm retired from the car business now and boy do I have some stories for you.
Keep up the great content love your channel
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I'd always wanted one for me and my family. Love the excursion.
You know, with the electric Hummer out, I bet they could make an electric Excursion and people would buy the crap out of it. It'd be inefficient as all heck, by electric standards, but still world's ahead of the old one in terms of ecological costs. And the best part would be no catalytic converters to steal!
Was thinking the same thing
please don't give them any ideas, I hate these big suvs more than anything, if you have 5 brats, get the minivan!
Until people start stealing battery packs for the lithium.
@@joesmith9216 why hate them? Yes a lot of people don't use them for their intended use, but I've seen many Excursions on the road towing things like horse trailers, boats, farm equipment, ect
@@joesmith9216 No thanks, would rather die. Love my SUV. Sorry if it intimidates you in your little shitbox.
When this happened to mine, I just replaced it with a glass pack that basically fit perfectly where the cats were. Only needed the glass pack and two adapters. 👍🏻
How would it pass emissions tests?
@@viralsheddingzombie5324 he’s in Kansas….. what emissions test?
I’m in Cleveland and we do have emissions tests. Never threw a CEL so I took it to a self scan kiosk and it passed. 😁
@@CarnalDustin Nice. What did the glass pack cost?
@@viralsheddingzombie5324 I think $42 lol
They are never going to crack down on the thieves. They decriminalized grand theft auto in California, it's a misdemeanor now, you don't even do jail time for stealing a whole car so good luck on a piece of a car. We had a contractor's van stolen with $50K of tools in it and the cops didn't even show up when he called. Fill out a report and get your insurance. I guess insurance companies will need to cover a cat under a comp claim.
WOW 😳!!!
That isn't entirely true. It is a wobbler and could be prosecuted as either misdemeanor of felony with enhancements based on the value of the stolen property up to 5 years per offense. It has not been decriminalized.
The solution is to not own a car. I don't worry about maintenance, insurance, things getting stolen, parking tickets, etc. Then why do I watch Tyler's videos? He's fun to watch. And I do like cars, I have owned many in the past, they're fun to learn about, they are a pain in the ass to own though.
AND....if your a certain race, well, you do as you please now, america goes third world this decade!
@@themoviedealers No, the solution is to own a gun -- and be ready to use it.
A couple years ago I bought an excursion for $1000 before COVID happened and the market boomed. I talked to the owner after I saw it sitting rotting away so I gave him an offer just to joke around with and he accepted. It had a bunch of rust but ran beautifully, had 200k miles but no engine lights and drove fine so I sold it for $4000 after giving it a bath
I’d love to have that excursion 🤤🤤🤤always wanted one!!! I’d promise to take good care of it 🙏
Hoovie gotta love your videos. Few months ago you said u we’re done buying cars but you give us all this wonderful content still lmao! Love your channel
This one hits close to home.. I also have a v10 excursion with the unplanned “cat delete” option 🤣.. I hate to see one so rusty like yours though.. fuel economy is poor but it can tow your cabin up north with all your kids and their friends inside. Nothing like it. More EPA rules for cat thefts ? Please God no.. how about local law enforcement doing their job and penalize the thieves. My state already requires copies of title to recycle converters.. so it’s really the catch and release policies that encourage the thefts.. imho.. 👍 good video
Bingo! Look at the crime demographics. There's a reason why only the young, the dumb, and the dead hang around someones rural property trying to steal. The same thief that will steal your CAT is the same person who will murder your mother or sister if they are caught and confronted in the act.
The people making these "no cash bond" and rotate and release policies are knowingly committing murder when they knowingly release these people back out on the streets again and again. The blood of their innocent victims is upon their heads.
Not surprised to see Rusty Excursions, they were so big that they did not fit in many garages. Parking it outside is an invitation to rust.
@@casualsuede good point hadn’t thought of that
The cops would have to catch anybody first before you can call it 'catch and release'.
@@casualsuede the biggest issue in the frozen north is road salt and the new road brine liquid salt. It’s effective in as little as 10% humidity so even in un-heated garages it keeps cooking all winter long.. EPA requires car washes to recycle their water to some degree so we keep re-applying the liquid salt and it’s no wonder our vehicles only last 6-7 years before they are showing aggressive rust..
I'd love to see Tyler try using those plastic rocker cover overlays that I see advertise on RUclips all the time. Heck maybe they could be a sponsor. Their video shows them cutting out all the rust they can first before bonding the covers over the rusted areas and they are painted...
Just a thought
@Jim jibroni yeah but he did say that the rockers that show if the doors are opened tend to be a cosmetic thing. From what I saw the underside of the truck appears to be ok and not a lot of “holes” or through rust so if the rockers are cosmetic then 🤷♂️
@@kylehamm7287 You have to watch how close it comes to seat and seat belt mountings
I couldn’t agree more on the cat thefts! 😓 a friend of mine who is broke and trying to raise two kids had his cat stolen off his only car. It’s just more setbacks for hardworking people. I spent 3 hours driving him around to run errands and I saw first hand how much it hurt him.
My dad got a diesel excursion for my mom when I was younger and she hated it n they sold it and got a pontiac Montana with the TV for me in the back 😉👍