So much more depth to lotr than appears on the surface. Recently got into mesbg after decades with 40k and Fantasy/aos. Chose Rohan as my faction. Can't wait to see the video on them. Keep up the good work guys.
Yay, another episode! Here are some notes that I'm writing as I watch... Aragorn's banner effect isn't strictly better than having an actual banner. On one hand, this rule isn't turned off even if Aragorn is prone. On the other hand, it doesn't count as a banner for VPs in some Matched Play scenarios. Also, only models that are within the range can get the rerolls - for example, if a spear support is in range of Aragorn but the model they're supporting is not, only the spear support's die can be rerolled; actual banners would allow either die to be rerolled. (source: FAQ for the Rules Manual) Denethor and Aragorn can't be taken in the same army. As a side note, Aragorn can't be taken with Boromir (from Minas Tirith or the Fellowship) either. (source: FAQ for the Armies of the LotR)
@@johnfalco-auxt2555 i was also a community of one here in southeast ireland for a while but i was able to infect more people with the mesbg fever and we are playing every week now. i hope you find some victims äääh opponents too. 🤞
Hi, greate podcast, thank you! You guy mentioned that Boromir's banner could help with elves, but i dont see how - the banner boost fight value, not a duel roll. Gondor warriors with fight 4 and still cant match evles fight 5, and even more elite troops will suffer from the elves blade when they get fight 5 with banner. Am i correct?
Getting a 1/3 chance to win a tied duel roll is a lot better than losing ties automatically. The elves are still more likely to win the duels (assuming the same number of dice on both sides).
rangers, fountain guard, citadel guard are all base f4 and get to f5 thanks to the banner. they usuallay hang out in the second rank supporting with spears and bringing that juicy f5 to the fight.
I feel like Boromir banner effect is way too strong. Giving +1F to himself is weird, how do you fight better while having to hold a giant flag ? And ALL Gondor troops being affected while rangers and fountain guards are already overused over regular warriors for having the better fight ? One way I would fix that, is that the effect would only affect Faramir and F3 troops (warriors, knights and veterans). So suddenly there is a good reason to play the Brothers duo since Faramir get to relevant F6 near his supportive brother and Osgiliath veterans become your F5 troops.
They are described as the most disciplined soldier yes, that's why they have Bodyguard and the heaviest armor of all humans models. But between the veterans who followed Boromir during the Osguiliath campaign and the bodyguards who remains in Minas Tirith, is it really the already overused models in the army who should be the F5 option ? I doubt so And which troop exactly are you refering to ?
Just found your content, please return with more episodes!
I really hope you guys come back to this. I love these episodes and have gone through them all a few times.
So much more depth to lotr than appears on the surface. Recently got into mesbg after decades with 40k and Fantasy/aos. Chose Rohan as my faction. Can't wait to see the video on them. Keep up the good work guys.
Just watched all of the faction vids, please make more they are great!
You can always learn something new, thanks for the video👍
They're back!
Love this long form faction deep dive. The algorithm did its job well today. Very happy to have found your channel. Keep up the good work.
Great job lads hope you make some more of these.
Perfect timing guys I’ve just started a Gondor army for a slow grow.
Yay, another episode! Here are some notes that I'm writing as I watch...
Aragorn's banner effect isn't strictly better than having an actual banner. On one hand, this rule isn't turned off even if Aragorn is prone. On the other hand, it doesn't count as a banner for VPs in some Matched Play scenarios. Also, only models that are within the range can get the rerolls - for example, if a spear support is in range of Aragorn but the model they're supporting is not, only the spear support's die can be rerolled; actual banners would allow either die to be rerolled. (source: FAQ for the Rules Manual)
Denethor and Aragorn can't be taken in the same army. As a side note, Aragorn can't be taken with Boromir (from Minas Tirith or the Fellowship) either. (source: FAQ for the Armies of the LotR)
Dicebearers covering the best faction in Middle Earth?? LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Just getting into MESBG, thanks!
Thought you said Banner-mir and thought that made perfect sense for a banner wielding boromir
that's unironically what he's called in the mesbg community worldwide if he wields the banner.
Lol I wouldn't know. I'm a community of one here in Eastern United States. But I like it!
@@johnfalco-auxt2555 i was also a community of one here in southeast ireland for a while but i was able to infect more people with the mesbg fever and we are playing every week now. i hope you find some victims äääh opponents too. 🤞
😂😂 Cheers mate! Appreciate it!
Welcome Back
Welcome back!!
when the aussie mesbg community needed them most, they reappeared
Awesome podcast once again. Also Arnor when?
Hi, greate podcast, thank you! You guy mentioned that Boromir's banner could help with elves, but i dont see how - the banner boost fight value, not a duel roll. Gondor warriors with fight 4 and still cant match evles fight 5, and even more elite troops will suffer from the elves blade when they get fight 5 with banner. Am i correct?
Getting a 1/3 chance to win a tied duel roll is a lot better than losing ties automatically. The elves are still more likely to win the duels (assuming the same number of dice on both sides).
And shielding elves don't get to use their elven-made weapon so it helps more against cornered elves
Oh, I think you missed that the Gondor elite warriors are F4 base and therefore become F5
rangers, fountain guard, citadel guard are all base f4 and get to f5 thanks to the banner. they usuallay hang out in the second rank supporting with spears and bringing that juicy f5 to the fight.
Whens the rohan one coming?
I feel like Boromir banner effect is way too strong. Giving +1F to himself is weird, how do you fight better while having to hold a giant flag ? And ALL Gondor troops being affected while rangers and fountain guards are already overused over regular warriors for having the better fight ?
One way I would fix that, is that the effect would only affect Faramir and F3 troops (warriors, knights and veterans). So suddenly there is a good reason to play the Brothers duo since Faramir get to relevant F6 near his supportive brother and Osgiliath veterans become your F5 troops.
They are described as the most disciplined soldier yes, that's why they have Bodyguard and the heaviest armor of all humans models. But between the veterans who followed Boromir during the Osguiliath campaign and the bodyguards who remains in Minas Tirith, is it really the already overused models in the army who should be the F5 option ? I doubt so
And which troop exactly are you refering to ?
the dragon emperor does it even better🤫
The dragon-emperor and his legion are a problem on their own@@user-gn5eo7yv3u