Roadshow I don’t reddit or twit, so will ask here and hope for the best: How come you didn’t mention or talk tires in this testing? Did all cars have the same tire? Were they high quality winter tires or what most USians use, bad quality 3-season tires?
@@TopiasSalakka, Tesla is Selling the $US 35,000 starting Model 3 all over the world now and the Model 3 is the #1 selling EV and #15 model in Finland in March.
As a former Audi quattro driver switched to Tesla, I feel I can truly say: this Tesla winter testdrive is what was missing on RUclips for a long time. Thanks so much, I really enjoyed it! Keep up the good work!
2:09 A 30% grade is not 30º. Percentage grade is "rise over run" so the inverse-tangent of that gives you the angle in degrees, and atan(0.3) is 16.7º.
no press events have ever "properly" tested a thing. Try driving around Alaska for the week, hit all the major cities, including Juneau via the ferry, then tell us about the car. In the winter, of course.
I'm Norwegian and I have owned and driven cars for over 40 years now: Yes, EVs do lose a bit of range in winter, but not nearly as much as what you lose from a really wet/slushy road, you just need to preheat the car & battery (preferably with the charging cable connected) before you start up in the morning. My S70D is far and away the best winter car I have ever driven, it is even better than any of the 4x4 vehicles I drove during my military service. Just last night in Oslo, in the middle of what would have been called a snow storm when I lived in Utah, I was coming out of a tunnel and into a tight turn when I suddenly lost all grip (I use metal-studded Nokian Hakkas) and for a few tenths of a second, as my old driving reflexes were trying to recover, I knew I was going to hit the concrete barrier sideways, but then the car got back grip on all wheels and I could just drive on. :-)
Terje Mathisen the car didn't get grip. The tyres got grip. Tires are only point of contact between car and ground. Hakkas are great tyres. Use them extensively w/o studs and never an issue. Vredstein are great tyres too.
@@Newzchspy Good tires are a requirement but the car found the power setting that re-established traction, almost instantly and depending on one motor or two, on different axles independently. No ICE car can do that regardless of tires.
Last winter in Minnesota my friend gave me a ride in his rwd model 3. We were doing about 65 when the car skidded sideways and without my friend touching the wheel or pedals the cars autopilot regained control and centered us back in the lane.
All negative press aside, Tesla really deserves a lot of credit. Not only are they a NEW auto maker, but contending against the 'Big 3' here in the States is no easy feat. I have no doubts they will only continue to get better with age and even have the potential of being a predominate player in the global market.
I agree on that. At times it looked really bad for Tesla but Musk did manage to keep his company going despite literally all media doubted him. I'm going to buy a new car in 2019 and I seriously consider a Tesla to be my next car.
actually it is harder for the big three to compete against them without energy credits and $7500 tax credits on the hood, and tons of union employees and a inventory of gas cars they must service sell and repair, in addition to trying to develop new electric cars without a super charger networks and the governments of the world planning to outright ban their cars in many areas and adding extra fees and taxew else wheree. So make sure to give credit to gas car companies who have developed and sold slow selling hybrids and now most also develop and sell electric vehicles with everyone saying tesla is the best everybody else is trash, while at the same time honoring your gas car customers, and keeping your workers employed with a job at the factory dealership and service bay. and local gas station.
I really enjoy watching cars in snow courses - and did video did not fail! Who needs a Sunday drive on a clean stretch of road when you can have fun in the snow!
the weight of the battery actually helps, like a few bags of sand in the back of a pickup, except it's a LOOOOT of bags of sand! My RWD 3 rocked in a blizzard in NJ a few weeks ago, performed along with those big fat mercs and bimer SUVs and AWESOME FOOTAGE, beautiful!!!
Extraordinary video! I live in Canada, and I ordered a Cybertruck after the unveiling; but I was very worried about driving it in winter. Not anymore! I had NO IDEA that Teslas would be better than any other car on snow and ice.
8:34 this is so beautiful seen philosophically. A glass sphere moving you around. Stunning footage. And interesting points on the Model 3 AWD being such a pioneer there besides its very different main goals.
Electric vehicles accounted for 39 percent of Norway's new car sales, 2018. Mmmm Let us think will an EV work in cold weather???????? Bad premise, But a great video!. would love to see Model 3 in Australian outback dirt racing......
@Real M They don't pay half the price, they wave most of the import and luxury taxes. They are, in general, wealthy enough to buy whichever car works best for them, and in a country that straddles the arctic circle, they choose Tesla. EVs can work in very cold weather...
Norway has a generous tax credit for anyone buying an EV and invested a lot into EV charging stations. Canada does not have as generous a tax credit and winters in some parts of the country very cold in winter, add to that the longer distances Canadians have drive. Tesla has not made a big dent in Canada's EV market...go figure.
PowWolf Rider PowWolf Rider: Of course, you're correct (additional credit: what difference does 30 / 100 make? The unit cancel!). Two questions, however. 1) What 2 countries, aside from the US don't use the metric system. 2) Who is the first US president who signed legislation encouraging US industry to adopt the metric system.
@@N7492 Ed Witten majored in humanities!? Now thats a shock. I bet the vast majority of people havent a clue who he is. To my knowledge hes the man who unified string theory and called it M-theory. A very impressive feat.
Just need a bit more ground clearance. 14cm is not enough :( at least not here in Finnmark. I would Want maybe 17-18 for those snowy days. I already plow snow with my CR-V with 18,5cm clearance.
@@jasenrock From Montreal, Quebec, Canada No you dont need a garage. A car "Tent" will suffice. You only need to charge the car right up until you leave. With the heater on 30 minutes before leaving. The model 3 heat the battery while heating the cabine and with 60A power source, you have plenty of juice to finish charging. And when rolling, use less heater and more heated seat. The range loss is less. I know, I do it every night. I have a model 3 AWD LR. Fun fact: I am seeing more and more model 3 around here in Quebec.. Nice
roguenode pfft, that's the short list. Try seat heaters sucking amps , failure to defrost cars left outside, insufficient heat to clear Windows, door handles sticking, clearly, an ICE vehicle has it beat for winter use at this point. That may change as technology advances.
The skinny is simply that combustion engines are heat engines - and the heat is free. Electric ‘motors’, make kinetic energy - ie motion- more efficiently. However the downside is that the heat isn’t free. Having said that, there are some ways in which electric engines are superior in the cold. You can sit in a snow storm with your electric engine on - you can’t legally do that with an ice car - as a snow and ice clogged exhaust on an idling car could kill you from carbon monoxide poisoning. Also you can happily keep your electric car warm all winter night - as long as it’s plugged in. When you’re ready to go to work in the morning - you have a warm car and a full charge. Try that in a gas car.
Yeah I was going to say... I used to deliver pizza in a car that got about 24 MPG... That heat was anything but free! A free byproduct, yes, but that's not the same thing as free.
More accurate to say the heat is a byproduct ( and benefit) of the ICE engine, not a freebie. There's a cost, that being diesel or gas. Tesla needs to specifically address the needs of winter driving in northern climes. Preheating uses a LOT of power and reduces vehicle range dramatically. 30% is more accurate than 10%.
Gasoline cars probably have more of an enduring fun factor. In cold weather or hard use, range gets shorter. With a gas vehicle you can just fill the tank again and get back out there, whereas with an electric car the time it’ll take to charge back up is definitely going to be longer than the time it takes the brakes to cool. But electric cars are definitely a riot.
@@MinhasA there's no such thing as 'hydrogen cars', they're just electric cars which use a hydrogen 'generator' for electricity instead of just storing that in batteries; you might as well use the hydrogen to produce electricity at the charging station.
So he started the video by saying that ev suck because the cold weather kills the battery life. And in the video he’s playing in the snow. I’m confused to what he was trying to prove.
Cold doesn’t kill the range, running the heater does. What he’s saying is that a California car company can still make cars that perform well in the snow despite the range deficit. TBH range isn’t really an issue when it’s snowing unless you plan on driving 300+ miles in the snow without stopping.
Wow one the best shot Roadshow videos! Very cool! You guys really made some beautiful shots here! The cars look brilliant against some beautiful backdrops! I love Tesla and and have been following them since there inception and am used to not hearing the roar of the engine from them! But for some reason it was weird not heaing anything as you guys were throttling these cars! LOL! Cool driving and keep up with the great Vids!!!
Awesome video. Now I know anyone who lives in an environment where it snows a lot should just opt for awd but I really wish they would have given you a rwd model to test as well. I have a rwd long range model 3 myself(which isn't sold anymore)
3:40 this is why Jeep Wranglers completely wear out the rear brake pads over the course of a winter in northern regions. Also, thanks for making this video with all the cars using Sottozeros instead of the factory Goodyear or Michelin all-seasons and saying the cars are bad on snow.
You just can't beat the fast response and feedback of an EV for stability/traction contols and torque vetoring. Tesla has the best implementation of them all.
I learned snow drifting in the late 90s with a "no security tech" late 80s VW car by drifting in the streets of my home town in good ol Germany ;) Damn it was so much fun.
Thank you for the video, very informative and entertaining. I was watching Porsche Taycan videos of ice drifting and other tests they ran but could not find any test videos for Tesla. I am so happy to see this one here.
What tires are they using for the test? The tire makes a huge difference in this kind of weather and road conditions. Are these tests with all season tires like they sell or are these tests with proper winter tires?
I have the MYP and bought the Tesla winter wheels and tires. I have lived in Wisconsin my whole life and have a lot of experience driving on crappy roads and it still handles HORRIBLY in the winter. The ass end slews all over and I’m surprised I haven’t been in the ditch yet. I drive in chill mode even because I thought it would help but it hasn’t.
AND put them both on the same make and model of tire. That way you're seeing the real difference in the cars themselves. I will predict the nose-heavy WRX would have more difficulty with turn-in to the corners unless flicked rally-style. After turn-in, they would be similar, although the manual tranny WRX tends to do some odd back and forth torque transfer through it's viscous center diff.
A differential is there so that when you turn, the outer wheel can spin faster than the inner wheel. Its not there to transfer power, its there to not make you drift around every corner....
While I AM curious about how the AWD Teslas go and handle in snow, the loss of range is VERY important to know. The good thing is that while on the plug (charging), you can warm the interior before driving without sacrificing range. One of the big problems in the cold is the increased battery drain while parked and unused. From everything I've read and heard, Tesla designed their cars to keep the battery pack at a constant 70 degrees Fahrenheit for greatest range and durability. When not charging, the car will use it's battery pack to warm or cool the batteries as needed. In cold weather, it has to work much harder to do so.
The problem with Lithium Ion batteries is there chemistry slows down once things get below 0C. What Telsa needs to make their cars operate well in northern cold climates is a gas turbine range extender like Delta Motorsport (MiTRE).
when this was filmed the weather in the interior of alaska was some of the warmest its ever had , the majority of places up here do not have a garage and this past weeks temps have been hovering in the -40 range , how did these cars fare in those temps. if you dont have a heated garage how well will they do? electricity is around 26c kw an hour or 108% higher then the national average , what will it cost to keep them charged?
During cold winter, driving 200 miles will cost you around $16 or $17 (26c kwh)... In summer you can drive 290-300 miles for same amount of money. For comparison, driving 200 miles with new Subaru Legacy in winter will cost you $23 to $27. This calculations are based on Model 3 with long range battery.
Why is it that they never tell you just the facts like how much power and battery life is lost in extreme cold or heat? And by the way what do you do when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere?
At the Museum of science and industry, in Chicago, there has been a counter steering simulator, and a very high-quality one at that, since the 80s! I did it every single time I went to the museum, and when it happened in real life I was able to recover, multiple times, and a snowy highway, and in my Mustang on Lake shore Drive a.k.a. LSD while I was flooring it at 70 miles an hour during spin out,
I wonder if they might eventually add a full skid-steer mode where no matter if the weight is on the front or the rear wheels the car will still turn properly...
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Roadshow I don’t reddit or twit, so will ask here and hope for the best: How come you didn’t mention or talk tires in this testing? Did all cars have the same tire? Were they high quality winter tires or what most USians use, bad quality 3-season tires?
@@acchaladka Ha, in pure powder with no chance of any grip, not sure it matters much, as long as they have some tread / aren't slicks ;-p
@@acchaladka apparently they used Pirelli Sottozero for all the cars
Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
All the cars were on Pirelli Winter SottoZeros
Tesla's don't have a bad reputation for cold weather. Teslas are popular in Norway, and other northern counties.
They're not very popular in Finland due to high price and lack of incentives.
@@TopiasSalakka, Tesla is Selling the $US 35,000 starting Model 3 all over the world now and the Model 3 is the #1 selling EV and #15 model in Finland in March.
@@KillroyX99 The Model 3 is $67k in Finland though, due to import taxes and other fees.
Topias Salakka , look out for the lower price Tesla. It sounds like sales will go even higher than March despite Finland high taxes.
Yea in the big cities where they are alway keeping them plugged in over night and/or in a garage.
Its not poor people in norway who are driving teslas
As a former Audi quattro driver switched to Tesla, I feel I can truly say: this Tesla winter testdrive is what was missing on RUclips for a long time. Thanks so much, I really enjoyed it! Keep up the good work!
now put a tesla on a rally stage lol
2:09 A 30% grade is not 30º. Percentage grade is "rise over run" so the inverse-tangent of that gives you the angle in degrees, and atan(0.3) is 16.7º.
Goddamn an actual intellectual
So more like a roof pitch than. So for example like a roof with a 6/12 pitch for ever foot you go straight you rise 6 inches per foot
Thanks, I had my doubts about that!
Finally someone evaluates the Tesla AWD system in proper conditions. Thanks.
no press events have ever "properly" tested a thing. Try driving around Alaska for the week, hit all the major cities, including Juneau via the ferry, then tell us about the car. In the winter, of course.
I'm Norwegian and I have owned and driven cars for over 40 years now: Yes, EVs do lose a bit of range in winter, but not nearly as much as what you lose from a really wet/slushy road, you just need to preheat the car & battery (preferably with the charging cable connected) before you start up in the morning. My S70D is far and away the best winter car I have ever driven, it is even better than any of the 4x4 vehicles I drove during my military service. Just last night in Oslo, in the middle of what would have been called a snow storm when I lived in Utah, I was coming out of a tunnel and into a tight turn when I suddenly lost all grip (I use metal-studded Nokian Hakkas) and for a few tenths of a second, as my old driving reflexes were trying to recover, I knew I was going to hit the concrete barrier sideways, but then the car got back grip on all wheels and I could just drive on. :-)
Terje Mathisen the car didn't get grip. The tyres got grip. Tires are only point of contact between car and ground. Hakkas are great tyres. Use them extensively w/o studs and never an issue. Vredstein are great tyres too.
@@Newzchspy Good tires are a requirement but the car found the power setting that re-established traction, almost instantly and depending on one motor or two, on different axles independently. No ICE car can do that regardless of tires.
Last winter in Minnesota my friend gave me a ride in his rwd model 3. We were doing about 65 when the car skidded sideways and without my friend touching the wheel or pedals the cars autopilot regained control and centered us back in the lane.
Holy crap, glad you’re okay and thanks for the story from here in the Canada.
Another thankful Canadian here; I ordered a Cybertruck after the unveiling, but I WAS worried about winters. Not anymore.
As someone who’s driven Subarus with limited slip differentials for the last 10 years, that hill climb was very impressive.
As someone who drives Toyotas with manual diff locks, that climb made me yawn.
Toy-joda you know this was with ice on the hill, right?
Not just some dry ass desert rocks
you'd be surprised by my Ford Focus with snow tires too then!
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z so this Tesla was tested on "some dry ass rocks" too? Hope the battery didn't get punctured!
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z Pretty sure my 09 Rav4 V6 could get up that hill with no problem. I've never gotten stuck yet and I live in New England.
That slow motion drifting 😫
Simply BEAUTIFUL!
the sheer satisfaction of watching the snow come out from the tires is enough to make me happy
That smile on the face when traction control : OFF...PRICELESS!!! :)
@2:09
No, not 30 degrees, 30% (according to the sign). A 30% slope is ~16.7 degrees.
thanks
your math is correct but i believe the sign to be wrong. that looked like a 30 degree incline.
Guys do not be humble Roadshow, this episode with Tim Stevens was beautifully shot, a good time, and incredibly informative. Good start to the year!
You are right, so some people will not like it no matter how good it is.
There a millions of people who would crucify Jesus again.
All negative press aside, Tesla really deserves a lot of credit. Not only are they a NEW auto maker, but contending against the 'Big 3' here in the States is no easy feat. I have no doubts they will only continue to get better with age and even have the potential of being a predominate player in the global market.
I agree on that. At times it looked really bad for Tesla but Musk did manage to keep his company going despite literally all media doubted him. I'm going to buy a new car in 2019 and I seriously consider a Tesla to be my next car.
@@ArtLightstone Thanks for that comment. People around me try to keep me away from buying an EV so reading comments like yours really help to decide.
actually it is harder for the big three to compete against them without energy credits and $7500 tax credits on the hood, and tons of union employees and a inventory of gas cars they must service sell and repair, in addition to trying to develop new electric cars without a super charger networks and the governments of the world planning to outright ban their cars in many areas and adding extra fees and taxew else wheree.
So make sure to give credit to gas car companies who have developed and sold slow selling hybrids and now most also develop and sell electric vehicles with everyone saying tesla is the best everybody else is trash, while at the same time honoring your gas car customers, and keeping your workers employed with a job at the factory dealership and service bay.
and local gas station.
I really enjoy watching cars in snow courses - and did video did not fail! Who needs a Sunday drive on a clean stretch of road when you can have fun in the snow!
30 degrees is not the same as 30%
Thank you for this comment. 30 degrees is 60 % grade lol. This also bothered me.
30% grade is 16.7 degrees :)
Man he doesn't know about science he from literature background.
That drift in the model 3 at 1:17 was just epic
the weight of the battery actually helps, like a few bags of sand in the back of a pickup, except it's a LOOOOT of bags of sand! My RWD 3 rocked in a blizzard in NJ a few weeks ago, performed along with those big fat mercs and bimer SUVs
and AWESOME FOOTAGE, beautiful!!!
Next stop for Tesla, FIA World Rally Championships
Extraordinary video! I live in Canada, and I ordered a Cybertruck after the unveiling; but I was very worried about driving it in winter. Not anymore! I had NO IDEA that Teslas would be better than any other car on snow and ice.
8:34 this is so beautiful seen philosophically. A glass sphere moving you around.
Stunning footage. And interesting points on the Model 3 AWD being such a pioneer there besides its very different main goals.
Electric vehicles accounted for 39 percent of Norway's new car sales, 2018.
Mmmm Let us think will an EV work in cold weather????????
Bad premise, But a great video!. would love to see Model 3 in Australian outback dirt racing......
@Real M and that make EV's work in cold weather?!?!?! I can not think of a better way to spend all that oil money USA give them! Buy Tesla's?
@Real M They don't pay half the price, they wave most of the import and luxury taxes. They are, in general, wealthy enough to buy whichever car works best for them, and in a country that straddles the arctic circle, they choose Tesla. EVs can work in very cold weather...
We will see how all these teslas gonna survive those harsh salty winters after 10 years.
Norway has a generous tax credit for anyone buying an EV and invested a lot into EV charging stations. Canada does not have as generous a tax credit and winters in some parts of the country very cold in winter, add to that the longer distances Canadians have drive. Tesla has not made a big dent in Canada's EV market...go figure.
I love my fellow Americans, but you'll hear the stupidest stuff justifying the dumb stuff we love. This video premise is fine for or market
Amazing video. We just got back from big bear using the model X in a lot of snow. Handled like a beast.
Snow tires necessary?
A 30% slope is 30' elevation per 100' forwards. This works out to a 16.7 degree slope. It's an inverse tangent...
How does an automotive journalist not know this?
N7492 you need to switch to metric. 30 meters elevation in 100 m distance...
PowWolf Rider
PowWolf Rider: Of course, you're correct (additional credit: what difference does 30 / 100 make? The unit cancel!). Two questions, however.
1) What 2 countries, aside from the US don't use the metric system.
2) Who is the first US president who signed legislation encouraging US industry to adopt the metric system.
If you can't handle math, you have to major in "the humanities" Thus, "automotive journalist". (FWIW) Ed Witten majored in the humanities!!
@@N7492 Ed Witten majored in humanities!? Now thats a shock. I bet the vast majority of people havent a clue who he is. To my knowledge hes the man who unified string theory and called it M-theory. A very impressive feat.
He says the hill is 30 degrees while showing a 30% sign. But 30 degrees is actually steeper than 30%. Impressive technology.
just amazing...setting the bar real high
THE DANCE MUSIC DRONING ON WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING IS LIKE A MOSQUITO BUZZING IN YOUR EAR.
This actually looked super fun!
Wow, the Model 3 took those turns flawlessly.
Tesla and Subaru have the best AWD systems out there. I've owned pretty much everything. Currently own a Model 3 and an outback
Just need a bit more ground clearance. 14cm is not enough :( at least not here in Finnmark. I would Want maybe 17-18 for those snowy days. I already plow snow with my CR-V with 18,5cm clearance.
@@viktorstorelv model X has 18cm ground clearance tho
@@Aikaramba12 kinda different price-range aswell.
Love my Tesla! It does great In the snow in ND!
Haha which one did you get? Never thought I'd see a Dakotan in comments of a video. I want a Tesla sooo bad but I don't have the money
Drifting in the snow looks so cool.
Nice Tesla Ad. As a performance 3 owner I don't feel this answered many of the actual practicality questions regarding cold weather criticisms
@@cbenson513 I don't think anyone ever questioned Tesla's traction and stability control capabilities though
@@jasenrock From Montreal, Quebec, Canada
No you dont need a garage. A car "Tent" will suffice. You only need to charge the car right up until you leave. With the heater on 30 minutes before leaving. The model 3 heat the battery while heating the cabine and with 60A power source, you have plenty of juice to finish charging. And when rolling, use less heater and more heated seat. The range loss is less.
I know, I do it every night. I have a model 3 AWD LR.
Fun fact: I am seeing more and more model 3 around here in Quebec.. Nice
its a car itll fine
these teslas have been out since 2013
Those with a garage are a small minority.
roguenode pfft, that's the short list. Try seat heaters sucking amps , failure to defrost cars left outside, insufficient heat to clear Windows, door handles sticking, clearly, an ICE vehicle has it beat for winter use at this point. That may change as technology advances.
**orders a Tesla AND a snowmaking machine** 👍🏿😂😁
The skinny is simply that combustion engines are heat engines - and the heat is free.
Electric ‘motors’, make kinetic energy - ie motion- more efficiently. However the downside is that the heat isn’t free.
Having said that, there are some ways in which electric engines are superior in the cold.
You can sit in a snow storm with your electric engine on - you can’t legally do that with an ice car - as a snow and ice clogged exhaust on an idling car could kill you from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Also you can happily keep your electric car warm all winter night - as long as it’s plugged in.
When you’re ready to go to work in the morning - you have a warm car and a full charge.
Try that in a gas car.
You can plug your gasoline/diesel car in and have a warm car for your work trip.
Yes the heat is free... if you ignore the 70% of fuel that you are throwing away to get "free" heat.
MsSomeonenew : Exactly.
A combustion engine is a heat engine primarily - it is only a ‘motor’ as a side effect.
Yeah I was going to say... I used to deliver pizza in a car that got about 24 MPG... That heat was anything but free! A free byproduct, yes, but that's not the same thing as free.
More accurate to say the heat is a byproduct ( and benefit) of the ICE engine, not a freebie. There's a cost, that being diesel or gas. Tesla needs to specifically address the needs of winter driving in northern climes. Preheating uses a LOT of power and reduces vehicle range dramatically. 30% is more accurate than 10%.
1:05 probably the most beautiful shot I've ever seen....
Electric cars have more potential for fun than gasoline cars.
Many would agree the loss of engine sound is a turnoff.
Hydrogen cars
Gasoline cars probably have more of an enduring fun factor. In cold weather or hard use, range gets shorter. With a gas vehicle you can just fill the tank again and get back out there, whereas with an electric car the time it’ll take to charge back up is definitely going to be longer than the time it takes the brakes to cool. But electric cars are definitely a riot.
@@wilmotown I agree with you. But I would use that charging time to take rest and eat.
@@MinhasA there's no such thing as 'hydrogen cars', they're just electric cars which use a hydrogen 'generator' for electricity instead of just storing that in batteries; you might as well use the hydrogen to produce electricity at the charging station.
So he started the video by saying that ev suck because the cold weather kills the battery life. And in the video he’s playing in the snow. I’m confused to what he was trying to prove.
Yeah, I was waiting for him to quanify the effects of cold weather on range and other stuff but he never did, what a missed opportunity.
Cold doesn’t kill the range, running the heater does. What he’s saying is that a California car company can still make cars that perform well in the snow despite the range deficit. TBH range isn’t really an issue when it’s snowing unless you plan on driving 300+ miles in the snow without stopping.
@@keco185 The cold DOES reduce the charge of batteries period.
@@naucha Not really noticable in this huge battery packs. Maximum like 1% or less
naucha the cold reduces how quickly the battery can be charged. Not the range
As I see the car go sideways for some reason I hear voices in my head screaming “WEEEEEEE”
Great video and it looked like a lot of fun. I live in Arizona and haven't go up to the snow but great to know it will handle anything with ease..
Wow one the best shot Roadshow videos! Very cool! You guys really made some beautiful shots here! The cars look brilliant against some beautiful backdrops!
I love Tesla and and have been following them since there inception and am used to not hearing the roar of the engine from them! But for some reason it was weird not heaing anything as you guys were throttling these cars! LOL!
Cool driving and keep up with the great Vids!!!
Great video! Would have liked to know how does the cold affect the range in real life driving situations...
If you have a garage then you are fine range wise. The batteries are tanks and for good reason.
Also the Tesla ballet was beautiful 😍
Great video. Very fun to watch!
Thank you for the video and answering my concerns.
Not as cold as Bjorn Nyland ;)
lol Norway isn't cold enough, wish it was as cold as AK
@@azera55555 30 Celcius below zero isnt enough cold enough for you?
It very rarely gets that cold there. Look at Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Tromso, they're all extremely mild and hover around 2 to -15 degrees normally
But it was cool :)
Awesome video. Now I know anyone who lives in an environment where it snows a lot should just opt for awd but I really wish they would have given you a rwd model to test as well. I have a rwd long range model 3 myself(which isn't sold anymore)
3:40 this is why Jeep Wranglers completely wear out the rear brake pads over the course of a winter in northern regions. Also, thanks for making this video with all the cars using Sottozeros instead of the factory Goodyear or Michelin all-seasons and saying the cars are bad on snow.
You just can't beat the fast response and feedback of an EV for stability/traction contols and torque vetoring. Tesla has the best implementation of them all.
Is the model 3 white or silver color? Because there isn’t silver in configurator and it looks so god!
I learned snow drifting in the late 90s with a "no security tech" late 80s VW car by drifting in the streets of my home town in good ol Germany ;) Damn it was so much fun.
Ehm..
You know how many Teslas we have her in Norway?
Snow and cold isn't a problem.
I lost it at “if a Moose threatened to bite your sister”😂😂😂
Thank you for the video, very informative and entertaining. I was watching Porsche Taycan videos of ice drifting and other tests they ran but could not find any test videos for Tesla. I am so happy to see this one here.
Pretty cool job on everything! Thanks for sharing
Was NOT expecting a Monty Python reference in the middle of a Tesla video XD
What tires are they using for the test? The tire makes a huge difference in this kind of weather and road conditions. Are these tests with all season tires like they sell or are these tests with proper winter tires?
For the S and X they seemed like studless winter tires based on tread pattern, but all seasons on the 3… hmm
This was asked on the Reddit ama. See link above.
This is what I would like to know 2, so apparently Pirelli Winter SottoZeros
I lived in Alaska for 95 percent of my life and now moved to Wisconsin, cool to see u do a vid there
Everyone becomes a Tesla fan, after they've driven one.
Nope, not even close.
Yep, seems that way
Until they deliver their car for service. Trust me, I speak from experience.
“Everyone “? You idiot!
sweiland75 it’s either you’re and ios or an android.
please, I need a real world winter testing of course. That would be interesting.
See Bjorn Nyland channel he lives in Norway
I am real curious what your Tesla Model 3 experience would be at that same location doing the same test driving with just the one motor in the rear
Fun and informative video!! Thanks for posting!
I have the MYP and bought the Tesla winter wheels and tires. I have lived in Wisconsin my whole life and have a lot of experience driving on crappy roads and it still handles HORRIBLY in the winter. The ass end slews all over and I’m surprised I haven’t been in the ditch yet. I drive in chill mode even because I thought it would help but it hasn’t.
Same issue here! Which tires are you using and which model do you have?
Too many comments to see them all but I'd like to see this with the Model 3 RWD
Wow, you certainly got my idea of a dream day! Cold weather, snowy driving? A New England gearhead’s dream! Cool video.
Finally a decent review by roadshow.
4:37 You let go of the accelerator, that's what transfered the momentum.
Why was the sign in Russian?
To stop Russians. ;)
There is a high Russian population in central and southwest areas of Alaska, due to the previous Russian occupation.
@@punnequraq Occupation? You mean ownership of Alaska :)
I live here and yes like half the town is Russian/Ukrainian.
You can see Russia from there
This looks like so much fun
That model 3 is absolutely gorgeous.
Are these stock tires or are they running winters?
Do you know what tires were on the Model 3 Performance? It comes with summer tires and I'm wondering if those were the tires on there?
for the ones who still can't really watch their Sentry mode footage, I like to use SentryPlayer, google it up and you should find it..
Great video!!! I subbed. You know what would be totally amazing? a side by side of Model 3 in dirt/snow vs a subaru WRX!
AND put them both on the same make and model of tire. That way you're seeing the real difference in the cars themselves. I will predict the nose-heavy WRX would have more difficulty with turn-in to the corners unless flicked rally-style. After turn-in, they would be similar, although the manual tranny WRX tends to do some odd back and forth torque transfer through it's viscous center diff.
What tires were on the Model 3 Performance in this video?
So, what was the actual effect on range?
that Model 3 P is beautiful
A differential is there so that when you turn, the outer wheel can spin faster than the inner wheel. Its not there to transfer power, its there to not make you drift around every corner....
did you test the drop in range, which is quoted at 30-50%, and the time it takes to warm up?
While I AM curious about how the AWD Teslas go and handle in snow, the loss of range is VERY important to know. The good thing is that while on the plug (charging), you can warm the interior before driving without sacrificing range. One of the big problems in the cold is the increased battery drain while parked and unused. From everything I've read and heard, Tesla designed their cars to keep the battery pack at a constant 70 degrees Fahrenheit for greatest range and durability. When not charging, the car will use it's battery pack to warm or cool the batteries as needed. In cold weather, it has to work much harder to do so.
This video was great please make more hands on videos👍
Awesome video! Thank you.
The problem with Lithium Ion batteries is there chemistry slows down once things get below 0C. What Telsa needs to make their cars operate well in northern cold climates is a gas turbine range extender like Delta Motorsport (MiTRE).
Awesome video, thanks !
Hmmm, can't wait to see the first Tesla WRC competing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
when this was filmed the weather in the interior of alaska was some of the warmest its ever had , the majority of places up here do not have a garage and this past weeks temps have been hovering in the -40 range , how did these cars fare in those temps. if you dont have a heated garage how well will they do?
electricity is around 26c kw an hour or 108% higher then the national average , what will it cost to keep them charged?
During cold winter, driving 200 miles will cost you around $16 or $17 (26c kwh)... In summer you can drive 290-300 miles for same amount of money. For comparison, driving 200 miles with new Subaru Legacy in winter will cost you $23 to $27.
This calculations are based on Model 3 with long range battery.
How much does a gallon of gas cost up there out of curiosity?
@@babybirdhome filled up with 87 octane at 3.09 a few days ago , diesel was higher. highest octane fuel we can get is 90
siamiam wow, we're at 1.89 for regular 87 and 93 is hovering at about 2.30-2.40.
@@Newzchspy mail me some fuel lol you would think that a oil rich state that drills its own oil would have cheaper fuel
At that time your were probably the luckiest man on earth 🌏 👍🚗🚙
Looks so much fun
Were you using snow tyres?
The thumb nail!🤣 litteraly read my mind 🤣
Cool!
I guess I’m an old geezer though: I’ll keep all the traction control on, thanks!
I would love it if you compared Tesla to Subaru. An Imprezza, WRX and Crosstrek vs 3, S and X .
Why is it that they never tell you just the facts like how much power and battery life is lost in extreme cold or heat? And by the way what do you do when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere?
i love driving in the snow
when will there be a Tesla service center built in Alaska?
That must have been a blast!!
Great video!
At the Museum of science and industry, in Chicago, there has been a counter steering simulator, and a very high-quality one at that, since the 80s! I did it every single time I went to the museum, and when it happened in real life I was able to recover, multiple times, and a snowy highway, and in my Mustang on Lake shore Drive a.k.a. LSD while I was flooring it at 70 miles an hour during spin out,
Great video. Subbed
I wonder if they might eventually add a full skid-steer mode where no matter if the weight is on the front or the rear wheels the car will still turn properly...
Good footage. Now I am reconsidering for a Model 3 over Model S.
May sound silly but it sure looks like a lot of fun in a smaller package.
You sacrifice some other bells and whistles.
That looks bad ass
Great info thx 4 sharing!