When You Speak Korean, but They Reply in English - A Glass with Billy (빌리와 한 잔)

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  • @Dragonsphinx
    @Dragonsphinx 7 лет назад +143

    I can relate to the Korean mentality of "helpfulness" by speaking English. I'm Finnish, and if someone obviously foreign came to me trying to speak Finnish (very tough language), and sounded like they were struggling, I'd have the inclination to ask if they were more comfortable speaking English since I'm totally comfortable with English. Also depending on the situation I might worry they wouldn't understand me if I spoke Finnish fully. Must admit, very interesting situation to solve. I'll probably meet the same problem when I go to Japan

    • @Dragonsphinx
      @Dragonsphinx 7 лет назад +2

      InvisibleYouth I do see the point you're making-I suppose it is frustrating if someone just switches automatically to English without pause at the first instance. I can't say what the reasoning behind it is, as I've yet to visit Korea or Japan. But then again, I can also see that it's not always obvious for a native to tell if a foreigner wants to practice or is struggling along because they assume no one speaks English. Two sides to every coin-I have also met people who gladly switched to English the instant they realised it was a viable option.
      And now don't take this as offence, but I was referring to the statistical fact that Finnish is among the top 10 most difficult languages to learn among those that use the Latin alphabet, not to an opinion.

    • @almakorhonen1028
      @almakorhonen1028 7 лет назад +2

      Dragonsphinx This is too relatable! Sometimes when I speak Finnish my tongue don't obey me and when I'm talking Finnish to a foreingner, who are just learning it, I feel like I have to use formal way of speaking Finnish and it's very weird to use Finnish like that.

    • @justcurious7920
      @justcurious7920 7 лет назад

      That actually happened to me a few days ago. A foreigner came to talk to my friend and his Finnish wasn't that great so my friend didn't understand him. She asked me to help her because I'm better at English but when I started to speak to that guy in English he just looked extremely confused and left

  • @ALifeInASuitcase
    @ALifeInASuitcase 7 лет назад +62

    Haha I'm with Billy; on occasion I pretend I'm French and can't speak English very well just due to getting a bit annoyed with constant English replies (I dread the day someone actually replies to me in fluent French). I mean if a Korean came to the UK and I automatically started trying to speak Chinese to them it could be considered racist.

    • @rubyr0f
      @rubyr0f 7 лет назад +6

      Life In A Suitcase your last point is exactly right omg

    • @rubyr0f
      @rubyr0f 7 лет назад +6

      Life In A Suitcase kinda double standards

    • @leigilmore
      @leigilmore 6 лет назад +1

      Yes! I totally agree.

    • @menear
      @menear 4 года назад +7

      they reply back in english not because they think we're english or american, but rather because english is the dominant language worldwide and most of the people who speak a foreign language speak english

    • @Furansowakun
      @Furansowakun 2 года назад +2

      I'm french myself and even if I say I'm french and I don't speak english (all this in korean), they don't care and they just continue in english

  • @StupidYouTubePolicy
    @StupidYouTubePolicy 7 лет назад +13

    재밌는 영상이네요. 저도 외국인이 한국어로 물어봐도 영어로 대답했는데 제 입장에선 외국인을 배려하려고 영어로 대답하는게 오히려 그쪽에서는 무시를 받는다고 생각될지도 모르겠네요. 그런데 그게 한국어는 마이너한 언어이다 보니까 객관적으로 내 영어>외국인의 한국어 라고 생각하는게 당연하죠ㅋㅋ 아무튼 형님 영어발음이랑 사자성어 보려고 구독했어요 앞으로도 재밌는 영상 더 올려주세요!

  • @ZachMikeMoller
    @ZachMikeMoller 7 лет назад +19

    If I am with my wife, I switch to Russian. A few exchanges often convinces the other person to try to deal with my Korean. Occasionally, though, the other person doesn't seem to realize that it is Russian, and continues in English. A couple of time, we met Koreans who know Russia, and we ended up continuing in that language.
    A friend of mine told me this story. He was in Iceland trying to learn Icelandic. He found it very difficult to find conversation partners. However, at a camping spot, there were several people who did not know English enough to switch over, and they were friendly enough to deal with his Icelandic, except for one girl, who asked in a sarcastic tone of voice, and in English, "Oh, are trying to learn Icelandic?" Without thinking, he answered, "Oh, are you trying to learn English?" That broke off that conversation immediately.
    When I am not in Korea, I get language partners through iTalki. I have done very well, so far.

    • @leigilmore
      @leigilmore 6 лет назад

      GIM haha that story!!! 🤣

  • @ToadyWoods
    @ToadyWoods 7 лет назад +43

    In fact, i am even offended sometimes, too (totally my choice). But if i ask a simple question in Korean, like where a particular subway station is, a response in English is loaded with too many assumptions. (1). I must be American, British, Australian, etc. (2). I won't be able to understand a basic "go straight, turn right at the corner" type answer in a language that i was using.

    • @SpongeMindTV
      @SpongeMindTV 7 лет назад +10

      I am finding out this is something many Koreans simply don't know or have a lot of difficulty understanding. 'Oh I am going to speak your language so you can understand better...' and how can it be possibly bad? I think Korean learners should repeatedly tell Koreans that you DO prefer being spoken to in Korean. I just can't imagine any Korean offended by that. To the contrary they are likely to be pleased to learn that someone is trying to learn their language

    • @leigilmore
      @leigilmore 6 лет назад +10

      you’d be surprised! On more than one occasion I have told employees at stores they could speak Korean - & they just wouldn’t! I found it quite rude. & that’s when I started pretending I couldn’t speak English. A classmate of mine from France improved her Korean so quickly, & I think it helped a lot that she didn’t speak much English at all.
      Still, I remember one time in particular when I was new in Korea, a store employee was so patient while I tried speaking Korean. She replied to me in Korean & when I didn’t understand, she said it again in English (& Korean again!) & then continued speaking Korean the rest of the time to me (even though her English was really good). She was so kind!

    • @KF22TV
      @KF22TV 2 года назад

      @@leigilmore such a wholesome story. The world needs more people like her. I loved reading that.

  • @leigilmore
    @leigilmore 6 лет назад +4

    6:47 Billy composing himself.. I actually laughed out loud because it’s so relatable! 😅
    Being a native English speaker, I have found it difficult to get over the English-response-stage in languages I have studied (in the country where the target language is the official language). In Korea especially, I have found it difficult making Korean friends who don’t seem to have the not so hidden agenda of wanting to learn English from me. While I am happy to share English tidbits here & there, I started refusing bids for language exchanges.
    Living abroad means sacrificing other things: time with family, your own culture’s food, holidays, etc etc. In my opinion, if someone is really trying to learn the language of the country they are in, they should be able to. So many times I felt used for my English ability - proof reading, answering questions about school assignments & it became too much. Language exchanges should be saved for people who are learning as a hobby or are also benefiting from the exchange.
    I probably sound bitter, because I am a little. 😅 I guess it’s a difficult situation, but where I come from people are happy to help people who are new to the area learn English without asking for anything in return. It’d be nice if it worked the other way around.

  • @Desp0
    @Desp0 7 лет назад +24

    Im the opposite... when i speak Korean to Koreans they start speaking everything in Korean really fast hhahaha... 😜

  • @cjt8469
    @cjt8469 7 лет назад +11

    You're right, getting angry or impatient won't help. A simple "let's speak in Korean please" can be sufficient. Also, I've noticed that once the conversation switches away from simple things like weather, feelings or "where are you from", then Koreans are more inclined to speak in Korean. So try to focus on more complicated subjects like news/world events, which is what we (foreigners learning Korean) need practice doing anyway. We're not going to learn much from talking about where the bathroom is, so no big deal if that's in English.

    • @tishaher7
      @tishaher7 2 года назад +2

      I've asked very politely to speak in Korean as I was responding in Korean and they still didn't want to. It doesn't always work. Walking away is sometimes the only way to cool off or ignore them. Saying please doesn't always do the trick. 😢

  • @usablefiber
    @usablefiber 7 лет назад +41

    You need to learn one phrase.
    ummm, Sprechen sie Deutsch bitte?? Problem solved.

    • @leigilmore
      @leigilmore 6 лет назад +4

      Usablefiber actually, I have done exactly that on more than one occasion! 🤣 I had gotten so frustrated with people coming up to me - just on the street - to practice English. It worked every time!

    • @ueberperson
      @ueberperson 6 лет назад +2

      Yes .. I do this all the time. I speak fluent German, so it works for me. I did this in France when I wanted to learn French and I am doing it in Korea. I also tell the people I don't know English in both German and Korean. In Germany, I used to respond in French and tell them I don't know any English in German and French. (this was of course before I was fluent in German)

    • @neatcoconutboi
      @neatcoconutboi 4 года назад

      😂😂

  • @4r1och
    @4r1och 7 лет назад +8

    I think the most common one is that, even if you say something in Korean, most of the time, they can't really judge your level with that and they are afraid you will not understand if they answer to you like you're a Korean. I also notice it's something mostly native English speakers seem to have a problem with.

  • @April_Vicious
    @April_Vicious 7 лет назад +8

    If you're close with that person you could maybe joke with them like "oh let's speak in korean this time so I can practice & next conversation we can speak english so you can practice" (:

  • @alfieMX11
    @alfieMX11 7 лет назад +16

    when I speak Korean they reply in Español

    • @WhitneyChakara
      @WhitneyChakara 7 лет назад +1

      alfieMX11 thats really interesting. I have a friend who is Korean and speaks Spanish fluently but he used to live in Mexico. from what he explained to me its rare as a 2nd language.

  • @Anthony-fz9ye
    @Anthony-fz9ye 5 лет назад +3

    Yeah. People ask me "What's the hardest part of learning Korean?" and it's definitely practice. Even living in Korea it was surprisingly hard to find opportunities to practice. Even on the language exchange app HelloTalk there are many Koreans who have accounts and they only post in English, and even when I leave a comment in Korean they'll reply in English, or I ask in Korean what their post means (because it's incomprehensible) they reply in English and it still doesn't make sense lol. Often Korean people are so so stubborn about using English, so I've developed the confidence to be just as stubborn myself. It's the only way.

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  5 лет назад +5

      It's going to be swimming upstream to do it that way. Koreans who want to use English will use English, and it won't develop into any long-lasting relationships. It's better to interact with people who don't want to use English. You can find people outside of language groups - find people who enjoy doing what you do. There will be plenty of people who don't want to use English, and who you can enjoy doing something together with, to practice Korean. Hobby clubs, cafes, groups are a good way.

    • @Anthony-fz9ye
      @Anthony-fz9ye 5 лет назад

      @@GoBillyKorean Thanks for your response. I think that's a good idea.

  • @ToadyWoods
    @ToadyWoods 7 лет назад +7

    I like this video a lot! I think about this phenomenon a lot. And, while I'm a positive and kind person, it makes me mad when it seems like the assumption of too many Koreans is that I must speak English, or I must speak English better than Korean. If we are in Korea, and I initiate the conversation with Korean (and i've learned a lot), the assumption should not be that all white people speak English! Seems pretty ignorant to me :(

  • @andymounthood
    @andymounthood 7 лет назад +2

    This sounds helpful. I added it to my public playlist, "Tips by others on learning foreign languages."

  • @mrsk2720
    @mrsk2720 7 лет назад +18

    We have lived in Korea for 11 years. We have talked about this sooo many times in frustration. I have also noticed if they do speak in Korean with me, the first time I need them to repeat something it seems they will immediately switch to English or give up trying to tell me. It is also funny how you can talk to one person and they ask you why you don't know Korean better then the very next person you have a conversation with tells you how wonderful your Korean is.....all depends on the topic we're talking about and the person's expectation of a foreigner speaking Korean.

    • @leigilmore
      @leigilmore 6 лет назад +2

      Mrs K my first week in Korea, a bus driver shouted at me & said “you don’t even speak Korean”..I was so upset & embarrassed 😭 All because I put 5,000₩ in the money thing instead of handing it to him directly. I didn’t know, & perhaps he was also having a bad day.

  • @EscherBay
    @EscherBay 6 лет назад +1

    happens to me as a 3rd generation Korean Canadian, I was not raised in Korean town, obviously i was fully assimilated to Canadian society. My family didn't teach me Korean. When I studied basic Korean for a year, I travel to South Korea and speak Korean to them and they all reply back in English. I'm not surprised because i know that my pronunciation is off and my grammar is bad

  • @JohnnyBruceMullerMusic
    @JohnnyBruceMullerMusic 5 лет назад +2

    Keep on speaking Korean is my advice, you need to convince them you speak of well enough..

  • @Ed-qc4nz
    @Ed-qc4nz 7 лет назад +1

    Best advice I think is to find a few Korean language partners who you meet regularly and are invested in helping you improve your speaking. That way these kinds of incidents won't be too frustrating.

  • @williamstvls
    @williamstvls 7 лет назад

    Great topic. As someone else commented, I think many times a quick judgment call is made on the non native speaker's ability based on the fist words said and then the native speaker will quickly switch to English, for example, for ease of communication and at times for some other reasons mentioned as well. I have run into this situation many times with trying to practice Korean so I started using italki.com for Korean speaking practice so that I am talking to a native Korean teacher that is paid to speak to me in Korean and it has helped tremendously. In college I learned Spanish in Venezuela and I didn't run into this issue because where I was at almost no one spoke English, but in the US when I speak Spanish to a native speaker that I am meeting for the first time, in many cases their first responses back to me are in English until they realize that none of the other native Spanish speakers around me are speaking to me in English. I have also found that the more proficient you get in a foreign language, it is so much easier to get good speaking practice in with a native speaker without the person switching to English, for example.

  • @michaelcorbett4236
    @michaelcorbett4236 2 года назад +1

    It probably makes it worse if the Korean person responds in English then you respond in English in your own accent. I'm from Belfast. it's bad enough being understood with native speakers. God help a Korean trying to work out what I'm saying.
    It's bad enough speaking to my in-laws who are Filipino and have been speaking English since birth.

  • @PinkSpaceHippy
    @PinkSpaceHippy 7 лет назад +1

    I'm applying for a job teaching English next year in Korea, and I'm studying now (using your book, as it were) ahead of time. If I get there and find myself in this situation, would this be an appropriate response? 한국어 주세요. 배우고 있습니다.

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  7 лет назад +3

      You can try saying that you're learning Korean (제가 한국어를 배우고 있어요, etc.), and keep using Korean. Or you can reply in English that you're trying to practice Korean and they might let you speak to them in Korean. It does get easier to get what you want the more Korean that you speak, but there will still be some people who only want to use English to non-Koreans.

    • @PinkSpaceHippy
      @PinkSpaceHippy 7 лет назад +1

      네, 감사합니다

  • @brookeard2094
    @brookeard2094 7 лет назад

    Very helpful indeed! Thank you. :D

  • @melc1678
    @melc1678 6 лет назад

    Ha! I took French for 5 years as well. I'm dabbling in Korean with these videos, but I am taking Japanese classes this fall (because that is all that is offered in my community college). Mais mon francais est tres mal TT

  • @Thrark
    @Thrark 7 лет назад +1

    Funnily enough I did not encounter this problem when I was in Seoul last month and tried speaking as much Korean as possible, they'd try to explain stuff in korean, of I didn't catch it at first and only rarely resort to English. My Korean is still pretty basic but I must have been lucky ㅋㅋㅋ

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  7 лет назад +3

      It depends on the person. Some Koreans are more adjusted to hearing foreigners speak Korean because they either know a few who can, or watch them often on TV. You also might have been lucky :)

    • @Thrark
      @Thrark 7 лет назад

      Learn Korean with GO! Billy Korean Yeah true, I was really happy that is for sure 😄

  • @cluckcluck6494
    @cluckcluck6494 4 года назад

    It's different here in the Philippines, some Filipinos reply in English to fellow Filipinos and I have to admit, I do that too 😂
    "Kamusta! Anong kinain mo kanina?"
    "Oh I ate hotdog"
    "..."

  • @starcrafter13terran
    @starcrafter13terran 7 лет назад

    Can you speak in each language half the time? What if you say "I want to learn many things about Korean culture and the languages, and when you speak to me in English, it distances me from that passion."?

  • @violethudson9813
    @violethudson9813 6 лет назад

    Dude I just learned numbers and counting things in Korean and I can under stand the Korean title “빌리와 한 잔”

  • @HUN73RK1LL3R
    @HUN73RK1LL3R 6 лет назад

    Me and my wife sometimes get into the trap of speaking English when I try and use Korean to improve for her, any advise?

  • @wooseokigwiyeowo3978
    @wooseokigwiyeowo3978 6 лет назад

    In Language exchange chats when they reply in English , I reply back in English because I think they are trying to practice their English.

  • @emilioyahoo
    @emilioyahoo 5 лет назад

    When they do that i start to speak my native language. Portuguese

  • @sonatasakura
    @sonatasakura 7 лет назад

    I like this situation because their understand my low level Korean😅

  • @liatran6642
    @liatran6642 6 лет назад

    Im vietnamese so does that make them respond in english?

  • @Mrlaiobrum
    @Mrlaiobrum 6 лет назад

    This guy speaks a better english than some native speakers I know hahahhaa

  • @skylar4101
    @skylar4101 5 лет назад

    But what if you want to practice Korean but don’t know anyone who speaks Korea

    • @GoBillyKorean
      @GoBillyKorean  5 лет назад

      Online pen pals are great for that, since you can find them anywhere around the world.

  • @johnjackson8035
    @johnjackson8035 5 лет назад +2

    If their English ability is up to it, just give them a chance to practice English. Many opportunities for you to practice Korean, not so for many Koreans. I taught in Korean universites for over 30 years and - to my detriment, as my Korean skills have gone downhill as a result- I made it a point to give students a chance to practice (provided, of course, that the situation allowed that)...

  • @almaevangelia
    @almaevangelia 6 лет назад

    Your title says "Glass with billy" Glass

  • @AmickTube
    @AmickTube 4 года назад

    Soju is delicious!

  • @typoqueen8693
    @typoqueen8693 6 лет назад

    Cause they can see you are having a hard time speaking Korean

    • @Furansowakun
      @Furansowakun 2 года назад

      Of course if every one speaks to you just in english, normal to not improve korean ^^; Totally stupid thinking

  • @jade5089
    @jade5089 7 лет назад

    when ur korean and when your korean you talk to everyone in english because i vant be bothered i like english better I AM A FOREIGNER

  • @zensesan5659
    @zensesan5659 7 лет назад

    when someone talks to me in korean, i answer back in korean.
    so the reasons i can think of why a korean would reply back in english :
    (if you are in foreign country... not in korea)
    1. the korean doesn't know how to speak it
    2. your korean was so bad that the korean didn't want to confuse you
    3. they think you are making fun of them
    (if you are in korea)
    1. they want to practice english ?
    2. your korean is so bad that they doubt you will understand

  • @amandamarcum93
    @amandamarcum93 7 лет назад +5

    Stop saying it's for selfish reasons, you are speaking to them in korean for practice too. So you can't say the other is being selfish for speaking in korean. And don't refer to them as "the Korean". It's they, them,.

    • @abigail.r.snyder77
      @abigail.r.snyder77 6 лет назад +11

      Amanda Marcum chill outb

    • @Furansowakun
      @Furansowakun 2 года назад +1

      The language of Korea is korean, not english. If korean want practise their english, better to go to US or UK. The language of Korea is korean, that's all.