Thanks for this video. I've lately been feeling like giving up on Korean. I used to have a lot of confidence back when I was in the intensive program. I reached level 4 and even met with Koreans and used only Korean for 3 to 4 hours at times. Now speaking Korean is just depressing to me. When I meet with my wife's family there's so much pressure and I hate that I understand nearly everything they're saying but I can't get the words out of my mouth. I had a stutter when I was little and I'm naturally very introverted so that doesn't help much either. This video gives me a little more encouragement though.
I like your socks, Billy :D Mr SpongeMind TV is right though. While I still feel really nervous messaging my penpal on the phone in Korean, when I think about how she bravely messages me in English despite the fact that she is also still learning, I'm proud of her and her ability to accept her mistakes and learn from it. As long as the penpal is a friend, I'm sure they'll feel similarly toward you, and are happy to encourage. When I message my friend in Korean, her first responses are always to fix my mistakes as well as add in alternative phrases that may be more well used. This way, I know that she's interested in helping me get better, and nowadays I'm trying to use this positive mindset to continue on with my learning. It's fine to be nervous, but think about how excited you'd feel if someone wanted YOU to teach them your language. It's a huge feat, but just remember how encouraging they can be too.
People outside of my country wanting to learn my language.... it's a wonderful feeling. But I guess it's often hard for a native English speaker to understand it because of the unique place English has in the world. Everyone has to learn it so it it doesn't have the same perception. By the way I liked Billy's socks too!
When I was in shool, my Latin teacher used to say, "If you translate, you're gonna get hurt". I have never forgotten this. Everytime I struggle with trying to say what I want in a language that is not mine (or simply getting the courage to speak it at all), I discover that I have been trying to translate from English into the other language. My Latin teacher's advice reminds me to think in the other language. When I do, my anxiety diminishes and I am able to think more clearly about how to get my message across in my target language. Thanks for posting these videos. Even six years later, they are super helpful and relevant.
Also you guys are so awesome with the explanation about separating yourself from Korean and using it as a tool even if you use that tool the wrong way you still get the job done. Genius.Understanding that you do go back to being a child and learning a language that is not yours. And I so love the point of not worrying what you look like or what you sound like but just making yourself understood in the a Funway! Thank you so much you guys are really awesome thank you Billy for introducing us to your friends! This is certainly home. And you really touched on a lot of the things I’ve been feeling. Because I so want to learn Korean and I feel like I’m getting too much into my perfectionist side. Anyway thanks!
My understanding was that it was an accident. That they had intended to delete just a few videos, but accidentally deleted them all. Either way, I miss them so much too. He was definitely my favorite source for learning Korean. Finding RUclips videos, like this one, and podcasts where he was a guest help fill the void a little.
So true! Even knowing that I want to say something as simple as hello makes me so nervous! So thanks so much for this video! And I’ll definitely check out your friends video channels as well. I need all the help I can get.
This is such great advice. Thank you so much. I have been really worried about having a really bad Korean accent when I speak. I just didn't want to sound silly but watching this video has given me freedom. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Billy. And ooo I'm also excited about finding new Korean learning channels to subscribe to. I love this video!
You guys are great! Thanks for all the encouragement and motivation! I wanted to add that for people learning Korean, please surround yourself with encouraging, kind people who want to help you grow and learn this cool language! I've made the mistake of trying to practice Korean with people who are impatient and insulting. It made me want to give up :-( But I'm going to keep 화이팅! Awesome video, guys!
I can say korean words easily to my girlfriend who doesn't speak korean, but to a stranger i can't even say thank you. This video helped me out a lot i'm going to try to be more confident!
I like what spongemind was saying about the class interaction, I want to take classes for Korean but no colleges around me offer the language, only japanese. Where can i go to get the "classroom" feel he was talking about without going to class?
Jeremy, to my mind, nailed it when he talked about feeling like a baby. When I was learning Russian, it struck that little children on the street knew the language better than me. A little boy could mouth off to his mother, when I could barely ask her where the bathroom was. I was trying to learn spoken Hebrew at one time, and was working with a professor of Semitics. We found an Israeli woman who was living in the States while her husband was finishing grad school at UCLA. She once invited us with other students to her home for some holiday party. My professor was struggling. To get out a request to have something passed to him. Once it became apparent what he wanted, our teacher's four year old son corrected his use of a verb. The professor was a PhD. He had had over 70 hours in Arabic, nearly the same in classical Hebrew, had taught for over ten years, and this does not count the work he had done in other ancient languages. The effect was hilarious. The suggestions are good. I have an exercise that I used when I was studying Russian - in the Soviet Union. I put together half a dozen questions, usually either requests for directions or inquiries into the price of something. Then I would spend part of an afternoon finding out how to get to places that were about five minutes away by foot. As I knew where the places were, I knew what the answer should say. Or I would go to a market, and ask how much a lot of things cost, and ask if they had something that I knew they did not have. Later I expanded into ordering something to eat. In Korea the first time, I used greeting and good-byes as much as possible. The second time in Korea, I got to where I could get cappuccino at Angel-in-us fairly easily, and have expanded into ordering chicken. One problem was when the Korean wanted to practice his English. However, I just talked to my wife in Russian, which had the effect of putting us back into Korean. If we return next Spring, I hope to expand yet further. I find that being able to have short conversations such as these goes a long way to getting me past the anxiety.
This is why I started 5 people my age on Korean and we practice together and since we mostly get worried someone will get ahead of everyone else, we are constantly studying to get better than group.
One thing I noticed while watching this video was that it was very difficult to understand SpongeMind's speaking immediately after listening to Billy K and Motivate K but when he was speaking for a minute or so, it was very easy to know what he was saying. A lot of the time I'm trying to write/speak Korean with a native speaker, he/she is trying to speak to me in English and it makes me lose focus; I'm not able to access the Korean that I know in that moment and THAT makes me nervous. Maybe I'm just too easily distracted, but that's my observation so far.
I had a different problem when I was learning Mandarin. Apparently I sounded native to the point where the person I was talking to thought I was a native speaker and they'd fire-hose me in all this Mandarin I never learned. Cue the awkward, "ehhh.......I'm only learning Mandarin......... T_T" Though that could be a pro or a con depending on your mindset. :D Great tips though, guys! :)
This happened to me with French - I went to Paris as a college student & everyone thought I WAS French - illiterate however...which was very embarrassing to me. It made it very difficult for me to speak.
You can learn the same way as someone younger, but it might be more difficult to find language pen pals as most Koreans learning English are younger (but you still can). I'd focus on the regular things: grammar and reading/writing. And practice as much as you can. The more exposure you can get, the better.
Sirithia Edwards I am also older(55) and trying to learn Korean. But where I live practically no one speaks Korean so I have no one to practice with. And like Billy said, most of the apps for pen pals are much younger people that probably don’t want to learn with an older person. I see this was posted a year ago, but were you finally able to learn and could give me some tips on what you did?
@@jeannieg4822 I am 46 and only about a month into learning Korean. I signed up for Tandem, the language exchange app, a couple of weeks into my study. Although I decided to put that aside until I develop more skill through study, I did find several people in their 40s with which to converse. The great thing in finding someone this age or older is that they are in the same self-motivated self-study as you. I started a conversation with one lady my exact age by commenting that we had the exact same goal of understanding movies and dramas without subtitles.
Dawn Undead are you still learning? Would you be interested in helping me practice maybe by phone? I’m kinda dumb with all the apps and tech stuff. I just kinda old school I guess. Not sure where you live but I live in eastern Oklahoma. I started using the Lingodeer app and I really like it. But I also have some workbooks and such from Talk to me in Korean.
Unrealistic expectation on all realms of Korean life = Language Anxiety LMAOO Language is just a part of your Tools, even if you don't accomplish the task right, you can still accomplish the goal with the tool (in a different funny, cute way) S.A.I.D principle in speaking Korean, & making it a part of your daily clumsy life. Confidence will just progressively (progressive overload = Time is your friend) find that one person you can rely & keep talking to, to make your Life more diverse & stimulate your "Urge for newness" = Taut Band
damn i had this problem for English (I'm French) for several years and i didnt even know it was an actual thing and not just me being shy lmao now if I end up facing this issue in Korean I'll know what is it very useful video, thanks billy!
Thanks for this video. I've lately been feeling like giving up on Korean. I used to have a lot of confidence back when I was in the intensive program. I reached level 4 and even met with Koreans and used only Korean for 3 to 4 hours at times. Now speaking Korean is just depressing to me. When I meet with my wife's family there's so much pressure and I hate that I understand nearly everything they're saying but I can't get the words out of my mouth. I had a stutter when I was little and I'm naturally very introverted so that doesn't help much either. This video gives me a little more encouragement though.
I like your socks, Billy :D
Mr SpongeMind TV is right though. While I still feel really nervous messaging my penpal on the phone in Korean, when I think about how she bravely messages me in English despite the fact that she is also still learning, I'm proud of her and her ability to accept her mistakes and learn from it. As long as the penpal is a friend, I'm sure they'll feel similarly toward you, and are happy to encourage. When I message my friend in Korean, her first responses are always to fix my mistakes as well as add in alternative phrases that may be more well used. This way, I know that she's interested in helping me get better, and nowadays I'm trying to use this positive mindset to continue on with my learning.
It's fine to be nervous, but think about how excited you'd feel if someone wanted YOU to teach them your language. It's a huge feat, but just remember how encouraging they can be too.
People outside of my country wanting to learn my language.... it's a wonderful feeling. But I guess it's often hard for a native English speaker to understand it because of the unique place English has in the world. Everyone has to learn it so it it doesn't have the same perception.
By the way I liked Billy's socks too!
When I was in shool, my Latin teacher used to say, "If you translate, you're gonna get hurt". I have never forgotten this. Everytime I struggle with trying to say what I want in a language that is not mine (or simply getting the courage to speak it at all), I discover that I have been trying to translate from English into the other language. My Latin teacher's advice reminds me to think in the other language. When I do, my anxiety diminishes and I am able to think more clearly about how to get my message across in my target language.
Thanks for posting these videos. Even six years later, they are super helpful and relevant.
Also you guys are so awesome with the explanation about separating yourself from Korean and using it as a tool even if you use that tool the wrong way you still get the job done. Genius.Understanding that you do go back to being a child and learning a language that is not yours. And I so love the point of not worrying what you look like or what you sound like but just making yourself understood in the a Funway! Thank you so much you guys are really awesome thank you Billy for introducing us to your friends! This is certainly home. And you really touched on a lot of the things I’ve been feeling. Because I so want to learn Korean and I feel like I’m getting too much into my perfectionist side. Anyway thanks!
Thanks for this video! It makes me feel better about my own Korean learning process :-)
Miss Jeremy's teaching! Was sad when he had his channel content deleted. :(
My understanding was that it was an accident. That they had intended to delete just a few videos, but accidentally deleted them all.
Either way, I miss them so much too. He was definitely my favorite source for learning Korean. Finding RUclips videos, like this one, and podcasts where he was a guest help fill the void a little.
So true! Even knowing that I want to say something as simple as hello makes me so nervous! So thanks so much for this video! And I’ll definitely check out your friends video channels as well. I need all the help I can get.
This is such great advice. Thank you so much. I have been really worried about having a really bad Korean accent when I speak. I just didn't want to sound silly but watching this video has given me freedom.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Billy.
And ooo I'm also excited about finding new Korean learning channels to subscribe to.
I love this video!
im so glad you made this video
You guys are great! Thanks for all the encouragement and motivation! I wanted to add that for people learning Korean, please surround yourself with encouraging, kind people who want to help you grow and learn this cool language! I've made the mistake of trying to practice Korean with people who are impatient and insulting. It made me want to give up :-( But I'm going to keep 화이팅! Awesome video, guys!
I can say korean words easily to my girlfriend who doesn't speak korean, but to a stranger i can't even say thank you. This video helped me out a lot i'm going to try to be more confident!
I like what spongemind was saying about the class interaction, I want to take classes for Korean but no colleges around me offer the language, only japanese. Where can i go to get the "classroom" feel he was talking about without going to class?
Jeremy, to my mind, nailed it when he talked about feeling like a baby. When I was learning Russian, it struck that little children on the street knew the language better than me. A little boy could mouth off to his mother, when I could barely ask her where the bathroom was.
I was trying to learn spoken Hebrew at one time, and was working with a professor of Semitics. We found an Israeli woman who was living in the States while her husband was finishing grad school at UCLA. She once invited us with other students to her home for some holiday party. My professor was struggling. To get out a request to have something passed to him. Once it became apparent what he wanted, our teacher's four year old son corrected his use of a verb. The professor was a PhD. He had had over 70 hours in Arabic, nearly the same in classical Hebrew, had taught for over ten years, and this does not count the work he had done in other ancient languages. The effect was hilarious.
The suggestions are good. I have an exercise that I used when I was studying Russian - in the Soviet Union. I put together half a dozen questions, usually either requests for directions or inquiries into the price of something. Then I would spend part of an afternoon finding out how to get to places that were about five minutes away by foot. As I knew where the places were, I knew what the answer should say. Or I would go to a market, and ask how much a lot of things cost, and ask if they had something that I knew they did not have. Later I expanded into ordering something to eat.
In Korea the first time, I used greeting and good-byes as much as possible. The second time in Korea, I got to where I could get cappuccino at Angel-in-us fairly easily, and have expanded into ordering chicken. One problem was when the Korean wanted to practice his English. However, I just talked to my wife in Russian, which had the effect of putting us back into Korean. If we return next Spring, I hope to expand yet further.
I find that being able to have short conversations such as these goes a long way to getting me past the anxiety.
Very interesting! Thank you for making this video :)
Oh my god... for a moment there I thought they had a soju bottle each haha ㅠㅠ
Thank you so much 선배님!!^^ This really helps(:
Omg billy, your socks are adorable
This is why I started 5 people my age on Korean and we practice together and since we mostly get worried someone will get ahead of everyone else, we are constantly studying to get better than group.
That sounds perfect! Friendly competition is a wonderful way to keep motivated.
감사합니다 ❤️
"We're people, but we're also channels". lmaoooo anyways thanks for the sharing billy and the gang!
One thing I noticed while watching this video was that it was very difficult to understand SpongeMind's speaking immediately after listening to Billy K and Motivate K but when he was speaking for a minute or so, it was very easy to know what he was saying. A lot of the time I'm trying to write/speak Korean with a native speaker, he/she is trying to speak to me in English and it makes me lose focus; I'm not able to access the Korean that I know in that moment and THAT makes me nervous. Maybe I'm just too easily distracted, but that's my observation so far.
I had a different problem when I was learning Mandarin. Apparently I sounded native to the point where the person I was talking to thought I was a native speaker and they'd fire-hose me in all this Mandarin I never learned. Cue the awkward, "ehhh.......I'm only learning Mandarin......... T_T" Though that could be a pro or a con depending on your mindset. :D Great tips though, guys! :)
This happened to me with French - I went to Paris as a college student & everyone thought I WAS French - illiterate however...which was very embarrassing to me. It made it very difficult for me to speak.
cheri teleri Hahaha I feel you there. It's embarrassing because now people think you're native so you're expected to sound native. Awkward. Lol
Hi Billy, I am 51 yrs old. I am new to the Korean language. Is there any advise you can give me in learning korean
You can learn the same way as someone younger, but it might be more difficult to find language pen pals as most Koreans learning English are younger (but you still can). I'd focus on the regular things: grammar and reading/writing. And practice as much as you can. The more exposure you can get, the better.
Sirithia Edwards I am also older(55) and trying to learn Korean. But where I live practically no one speaks Korean so I have no one to practice with. And like Billy said, most of the apps for pen pals are much younger people that probably don’t want to learn with an older person. I see this was posted a year ago, but were you finally able to learn and could give me some tips on what you did?
@@jeannieg4822 I am 46 and only about a month into learning Korean. I signed up for Tandem, the language exchange app, a couple of weeks into my study. Although I decided to put that aside until I develop more skill through study, I did find several people in their 40s with which to converse. The great thing in finding someone this age or older is that they are in the same self-motivated self-study as you. I started a conversation with one lady my exact age by commenting that we had the exact same goal of understanding movies and dramas without subtitles.
Dawn Undead are you still learning? Would you be interested in helping me practice maybe by phone? I’m kinda dumb with all the apps and tech stuff. I just kinda old school I guess. Not sure where you live but I live in eastern Oklahoma. I started using the Lingodeer app and I really like it. But I also have some workbooks and such from Talk to me in Korean.
Unrealistic expectation on all realms of Korean life = Language Anxiety LMAOO
Language is just a part of your Tools, even if you don't accomplish the task right, you can still accomplish the goal with the tool (in a different funny, cute way)
S.A.I.D principle in speaking Korean, & making it a part of your daily clumsy life. Confidence will just progressively (progressive overload = Time is your friend)
find that one person you can rely & keep talking to, to make your Life more diverse & stimulate your "Urge for newness" = Taut Band
You guys should get together again!
The description is me 😂
damn i had this problem for English (I'm French) for several years and i didnt even know it was an actual thing and not just me being shy lmao
now if I end up facing this issue in Korean I'll know what is it
very useful video, thanks billy!