Cat vs Dog - Best Support Class
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2017
- If you play human, you want to make sure your team has the best supports. But which classes will give you the best shots at success? Look no further for the answer.
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Personally as a dog player, handshake ability seems to always result in free loot although a major con of the build is the probability of losing reproductive abilities at level 1
It basically negates evolution points if you cannot evolve. That’s the sacrifice of being top tier
adult man not always tho. just stick with right human players, and you will get all the love and bitches in the world
@@adultman3175 Hey.
@@finbob5 hi
@@adultman3175 Alright.
Cats: I am a powerful assassin
Humans: well isn’t that the cutest thing
Dog be like: lol this small thing thinks it can kill me
@@rainitaouwu Unless the dog is something like a Chihuahua...
@@nazrarain1452 oh i forgot small dogs existed- but usually small dogs are good at intimidation and cats are slightly "dumber" than dogs so
Cats aren't that much worse at learning, they've just usually got more attitude about it. Cats will attack things bigger than them and win in quite a few cases based on intimidation
@@rainitaouwu but cats are better killers than small dogs plus cats can hiss and scare away some other bigger threats
This was the best way I've ever seen someone say they were a dog person.
He straight up ignored cat's pest control ability which is very useful to human mains, while listing off a bunch of dog abilities that most human mains never have to use.
@@greyfox4838 fr cats are the main reason why big cities aren't infested with rats
@@greyfox4838
If you think about it, cats also caused a bunch of other species to almost go extinct because of their ability to hunt and kill. Because of this, many places allow people to just kill a cat if they see one. Around those areas, cats are seen as pest.
For real
@@maliyahhale1223 I mean they technically are, a pest is an invasive species and that’s what cats are since they’re man-made and don’t belong in any ecosystem. They’ve literally caused the extinction of 63 species!
It would be funny to look at this the other way around. “Dogs and cats have access to an extremely powerful mage summon”
More like a warrior with a rage debuff
@@fure745Nah, humans are definitely mages... squishy in melee with an absolutely devastating arsenal of ways to kill stuff that isn't in melee range.
@@somejerk5662 Don't underestimate the armor
@@somejerk5662Humans arent that bad in melee. I mean they are pretty shit compared to some top tier predators and tanks, but a human would still body most animals in a 1v1 melee, including a housecat. And that doesnt even include equipment. But it is true that humans are best at range and with range equipment, they can even take down the tankiest of tanks
“While the Good Boy perk takes valuable EVP from dogs’ bite and claw stats, it also gives it the powerful Summon Human ability. While most of the summonable humans aren’t specced for PvP, their size and short enrage timers give gankers a brief window to pull off an attack on dogs”
"Track down loot." *shows a dog sniffing for drugs*
*potions
TheTwixtr *power-ups
TheTwixtr Or corpses.
Or weps
Or enemies
You got it all wrong. Human is support class for the cat player, not the other way.
Well, what do you expect from an examination of the game by a human? Dominating creates hubris, makes blind.
That's the infection talking.
That would suggest that cats need us for morale support which I just don't think is the case sometimes lol
Unfortunately both are really just support for the Toxoplasmosis player, which has a nasty habit of making humans believe they're the support for their cat.
@@ACDBunnie Cats aren't necessarily using humans as support for morale, but rather for shelter/food etc.
Don’t forget the “sled dog” prestige class which can be spec’d into on the Arctic servers, and lets dog players be used as mounts! Or the “herding” skill tree, which allows dog and human players to easily control other players in livestock guilds.
Or the “Livestock Guardian” class that prevents other players (wolves, coyotes and big cats) from griefing xp from the humans livestock support animals (sheep, goats, cows).
They did mention crowd control
he mentioned herding
He talked about "Herding", but in his version, it is translated as "Crowd control"
My friend, a cat main, would like to point out that getting rid of rodent and bird players who keep griefing your teammate is technically a support role. Eating food that a rat player has tampered with can give major, sometimes lethal disease debuffs to a human player.
smaller dogs can do that too,why people forget abou smaller breeds?Some of them still are active hunters,and kill little birds and rats
@@serhumano3692 But they're not as singleplayer-friendly. Not every human main can take a lot of time out of working on their own objectives to buff their teammate, and dog builds don't have as many options for solo-levelling. If their human doesn't pay enough attention to them, dog mains tend to get salty. I've seen screencaps from human players who got griefed hardcore by their own teammates.
@@serhumano3692 nowhere near as efficiently
And don't forget that a cat's "purr" ability can reduce the human teammate's injury healing time significantly. It's especially useful in late game to protect a human player's bone density and muscle tone stats, which start to decline in later game. In addition, cooperating with a cat main has been shown to decrease stress and depression debuffs, and may even reduce the risk of a stroke-based game over by as much as 30%. Cats really do deserve to be S-tier support players, and I'm not just saying this because my cat main bestie is beside me.
@@LauraSti I can vouch for the debuff removal. Real lifesaver sometimes!
Dont forget that cats have a 9-life glitch.
it is merely a rumor, though.
@@alexwang982 Yeah, I think it started over cats having random good resistance or cats having look-alikes, and mostly hitting a good luck value when in danger. Don't let it decieve you, cat players!
It's *7* lives!!!
9 lives is a popular myth, explained by very high agility (which has been adapted even to mitigate falling damage) and a sonic trauma repair mechanism which makes cats overall a very survivable build.
Hackers that is what they are
said by player who relies on rodents to spread plauges
For cats, YOU are the support class.
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Correct👍
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Yep.
Absolutely.
I always find it kind of strange that people think that, considering that cats usually require less attention than dogs do.
thing is, separation anxiety is a very common debuff in dogs that can cause a lot of trouble for their human, particularly humans that don't spend a lot of time at their base. cats are more independent in nature so you rarely see this debuff at all in them. cats are also excellent at hunting down insects that have found their way into a human's base, which is very useful seeing as humans are very easily intimidated by even harmless insects.
What about the cat's "purr" ability? They use it to maintain muscle tone with a sedentary lifestyle, and they can also use it to assist their human allies when they have major debuffs such as injuries. Cats have different "purr" styles for different injury types too. They have a "bone purr" ability which increases tick speed on the debuff, allowing it to count down faster. The same goes for other injury-type debuffs, and don't forget the cat's role in pest control.
Selling the cat class short is all I'm saying. That "purr" ability might just be the strongest single support ability in the game, besides the "cute" ability.
I love the ' cute' ability
It can distract the opponent
Useless
@@zkcud2858 Howso? You seem like someone who's better off playing single player mode, since you're eager and willing to disrespect classes you know nothing about.
charisma cat stas are in the roof...
I bet you never played the farmer spec... here a cat support is godlike against players who focus their rodent builds to maximize stealing crop yield
You should take a look at what the terrier class dog build can do then. We're talking a direct attrition rates of 4-6 a minute, one particularly dedicated player even managed to rack up 2500 kills in one hour
Several Dogs are legendary on their rodent slaying, they even made it to human main forums called newspapers.
Dogs are really versatile.
+DisasterLord I used to have a bobcat sized house cat sitting at about 2 ft tall weighing almost 40 pounds, she was able to fight off more than one dog eventually becoming even feared by humans and dogs alike . She also used to sit at the porch and use the guard skill. No lie tho... A cat like that is ultra rare and I've only encountered 5 or so.... Point being, cats are badass.
A bobcat sized house cat? You mean a bobcat? LOL.
Burt1038 they are not the same moron.....
I used to be on a server with a really kind cat player, but he had to log off a couple years ago :(
Nah he's probably playing as other main now, he achieve his main quests, and now can rest knowing he completed the cat class 100% and achieve the achievement "companion" where he is close to his human partner :^)
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How dare you...
Make me cry!
Every so often I come back to this video just for that one scene about the "Good Boy" ability. That little pupper tilting his head accompanied by the "Oh yeah!" "You feel that?" makes me smile no matter what. It's so cute and funny at the same time.
Having a good dog and cat support makes a big difference.
And (some) cats do their part for the home base, they’re highly effective at keeping the pests and creepy crawlers in check.
Lots of places you can hardly live without a cat and a dog.
As a human build, my dog and cat support players provide the best of both worlds. The dog utilizes base support abilities such as companionship and protection in exchange for food and indoor security. Meanwhile the cat keeps pests in check while also providing a bonus, more passive companionship buff. I've noticed both receive stimulation from the red laser item and tend to support one another when human builds are busy.
90% of the subscribers are animals looking for advice of ranking up
The current meta is broken as fuck though.
Until they find a better leveling system than Reproduction, unless you are an INT build that *also* lives in a Society Hub, the only way to change your build is to get a game over after reproducing.
Fucking devs.
Not me because I'm a human.....although I still want to rank up But still!
never any advice for helping young wafflecats avoid predators other than maybe avoiding belgium
The ostriches will reclaim their #1 spot
For sure my friend
For instance
I'm a foxy
Toxoplasmosis is only slightly true, what really helped the domestic cat soar into S tier is when humans unlocked the farming skill. All that experience and loot attracted a ton of low level players like rats. Which gave cats a ton of players to grief on. A ton of human players also prefer that the cat isn't as much of a support class as a dog. With a dog you need to learn how to play as a team, with cats they take care of themselves and do their own thing.
In other words, a dog would be a healer, war monk, or paladin type of support class while cats play more assassin support roles like Bards or Tricksters.
Never heard of a problem with toxic plasma Gandhi...
Jake M.
Bards aren’t similar to assassins? We must go to different types of parties.
Jake M. Every rouge I've ever played has the ability to promote to a high DPS assassin or a fast support like a bard/dancer/trickster.
cats aren't considered support classes, apparently??
in what game is it a suports job to oneshot some/something?
I recently teamed up with a lower level cat player but, despite her level, she seems to have quite a bit of experience in today's meta. I'm still going to keep her close until we get her more XP and give her the vaccination buff.
Gosh dude, as a deep sea female anglerfish player i sometimes envy you, terrestrial mates, for having stuff like that.
@@GospodinSlav Have you considered any form of a symbiotic relationship with a simpler player or far higher ranking player?
@@TheIndoraptor down there it would be nearly impossible, due to the fact that losing someone there is easy, very easy, so easy in fact that males bite into me.
You forgot to mention their passive healing ability: Purr. It actually promote healthy bones, and the pest control aspect, which puts them as a good companion, just in a different way than dogs. Toxoplasmosis is more common in Outdoor and Stray cats, and while human infection rates are high, they don't suddenly make humans like cats.
The Stray
Stray is almost a complete no go, and most are forced into it due to a bad spawn or human kicking them out of the party. You're playthrough usually only lasts a few levels, since you have 0 medical care, unless you are taken in by a Human.
The Outdoor
While the outside cat build looks tempting because of the mixed, it's not very good, since your average run is only a about 2-5 levels, and depending on the exact human-made biome, that could be lower or higher. High traffic areas could end your run early, especially if you're caught by a Animal Control Human, which for most, is a guaranteed game over. The medical care helps, and some really lucky playthroughs could go all the way to the max level for cats, but that is more of an exception and if its your choice of outdoor or indoor, you should always choose indoor.
There is some exceptions, like pest control on farms, which uses your natural stealth assassin skills to hunt rodent players. Low traffic and large territory means you're lifespan is typically higher, but because Veteranary Humans are farther away, immediate medical attention required incidents are more likely to end you're playthrough, however they are rarer.
The Indoor
This is the premier build. It's passive farming, with little need if you can put up with humans, and even then you may not need to. You have almost completely guaranteed protection at all times without needing to work at all. Indoor cats are relatively low maintenance compared to dogs, and are available in far more human areas than dogs. Example being apartments, which are detrimental to even medium sized dog players, but are perfectly fine for cats. Plus on average, you're increasing your average run to 10-max level.
I currently have a cat player in my party, whose level isn't exactly known. She's around 8-10 according to the our local Vet Human. She suffers from a skin condition annually, which causes her to scratch to the point of cutting herself.
She was originally a stray for her first couple of levels, where a Human found and helped her, turning her into an Outdoor cat for another few. Those logs are muddled, but when she continued her run with us, she was suffering from her untreated skin condition, flea players, and was completely covered in injuries. Based on her previous logs, we decided to change her playstyle to indoor, and now she is thriving with constant care. She loves the free loot and mutual buffs. She already broke the Stray and Outdoor playthrough averages by a mile, and we hope her playthrough never ends.
Sounds like they were probably actually a stray which means that they almost certainly were socialised during the critical period as kittens and then got abandoned or ran away. A genuinely feral adult cat that has never been socialised will rarely let any human get close enough to try and socialise them much less find the attempt to do so a positive experience that builds trust rather than a scary event that reinforces their existing aversion.
I also added a cat player to my party who was also a stray and she hated that playstyle. I'm probably under the influence of toxoplasmosis but it's not like I care, the morale boost from the cat player has done a lot for my playthrough
I win
“The devs haven’t been too active with balance patches lately.”
This is the quote which defines the modern age.
We need a nerf on the level of the nerf hammer that destroyed the dinosaur class. They were absolutely dominating the meta, with very little counterplay, so the devs eventually stepped up and made them borderline unplayable. I foresee a new balance patch in 100 years that finally nerfs the humans after their unstoppable reign of the meta, and all the supports with them.
Nerf money, some things should be earn in other ways.
Don't worry, there might be a "rogue A.I." balance patch coming soon enough. Devs have always been slow with these patches tho, don't forget how long it took them to do something about the dinosaur meta.
Jeroen Verschaeve that wasn’t a nerf hammer, that was a banhammer that smacked a meteorite to earth.
so many classes depend on the humans at this point that I think the humans should stay, and they might expand the play area past earth and even might discover other servers. there really should be something done about them accidentally griefing other classes though.
we have to fix ourselves
Eh, the effectiveness of Toxoplasma as an ability is still being debated. I would argue that the reason cat players are so strongly preferred by a portion of the human playerbase is that they present the same morale boost as dogs with significantly less investment in time and XP to level them up. They also work well in smaller spaces, which is an advantage in the increasingly popular city servers. Since many human players don't need higher level dog perks in the current meta, they can save valuable resources opting to partner with cats instead. Of course, which is better for an individual human player is ultimately up to their playstyle.
I thought these were gonna be the arguments of the video. A bit disappointed he went a tad tinfoil hat on us.
Cat players got their start griefing vermin players present in human players food storage which allowed them to move up from stray to outside. From there the cat player was able to move to the inside class though some players still prefer to stick with the outside class as many find the inside class pretty boring.
Well said
Kiapet 2 you just toxoplasmosis and don’t want to admit iy
Monthly Memes what
Hey TierZoo, cool channel and awesome concept! I was really looking forward for this video after seeing The Cat Tier List, but was left a bit puzzled after watching it. To get straight to the point that bothered me, this one in particular felt like a serious disservice to f. catus and a strange shift from what so far have been a very entertaining and informative journey. I absolutely love dogs, and agree with everything you said about our canine companions, but was quite perplexed about why you left out some very important patch notes about our feline friends, their presence in history, and their contribution to the development of our civilization.
Unlike our amazing canine friends who often get (most of) the credit they deserve, cats have been (and still are) getting a bad rep for centuries, and very unjustly so. So in defense of our feline friends, I’d like to mention a few patch notes.
I'll start with the "spookiest" part which usually has the most controversy surrounding it - T. Gondii. First thing first, It's important to note that most humans are far more likely to contract T. Gondii from eating raw meat or unwashed fruits and vegetables than getting it from a cat (assuming you don’t eat cat poop or touch it with your bare hands, and / or don't wash your hands before you eat).
Secondly, the "Bold and Brash" debuff in fact does NOT work on humans in the same way it works on rodents, and will ONLY proc on a rodent spec that comes in contact with an armed Toxo Dookie Trap. This type of trap is only spawned by a cat for a duration of 1 to 3 weeks following infection with T. Gondii and is NOT permanent (a cat needs to be infected via rodent / bird consumption to be able to spread the parasite, so if your cat is an indoor cat the chances of it contracting and spreading the parasite are quite low). What's more, the effects on humans are widely debated if existent at all, because T. Gondii has been so far assumed asymptomatic except in cases of individuals with deficient immune systems or in cases of spawning with it (if you wish you can also check out the CDC's FAQ about T. Gondii on their website, it's quite informative without being overwhelming).
As a cat main, I was surprised to see no mention of the contribution domestic cats had made to early agricultural societies who utilized the cat’s epic "Vermin Control" skill (a job many cat companions hold till’ this very day), cats kept rodents away from our granaries, as a result humans were able to store large quantities of food, which lead to more people being able to settle in one place, who in turn built stronger and longer lasting homes, creating security and eventually civilization.
The whole ancient Egypt cat worshipping practice started because of the cat's ability to kill venomous pests like snakes and scorpions (which cats also do till' this very day, thanks Kitsu!). It had also been speculated that cats have a secret buff, "Song of Bastet", the purr - resonating in a consistent pattern in frequencies between 25 and 150 Hertz, which according to various investigators had shown to improve bone density and promote healing.
The last one may not have been researched thoroughly enough to be considered a fact, but I personally appreciate the purr’s calming effect and its +50 to relaxation and good spirit buff!
I think the most amazing thing about cats is the fact that they were never truly domesticated, Unlike dogs that have been shaped by tens of thousands of years of selective breeding in order to achieve traits desired by us humans, not to mention having a good starter social core humans could work to begin with, the solitary cat had moved from the deserts and jungles into our homes with barely any intervention on our part. Cat breeding is a relatively new practice, so as a result cats had retained most of their wild traits and basically adapted to living with us humans, our other pets/farm animals, and even each other in the wild.
This brings me to another important yet little known patch note about f. Catus, differently from their wild ancestors, domestic cats are actually quite social and require social interaction for a healthy wellbeing!
Domestic cats even form matriarchal colonies in which they live together and help one another in tasks like taking care of each other’s kittens, and providing food for the colony. Unlike lions though, domestic cats have no pack mentality nor do they develop any social strategy, so each member hunts individually and contributes on their own, which I personally think is a wonderful demonstration of how adaptive and unique this animal is.
Despite remaining widely misunderstood by most of us. Cats have highly individual and different personalities, and most of them bond very deeply with their humans. Each cat also learns to communicate with their human individually, even the all familiar “meow” is not as obvious as we think. Each cat learns to use this skill - which is essentially a kitten’s cry to its mother (and as it turns out is also very effective in getting our attention) - with their human, either on their own or by observing other cats, creating a communication system that is custom tailored to their human.
I personally love how cats, despite being solitary animals, were able to form meaningful relationships with us not because they were genetically conditioned and shaped to do so, but because they chose to.
Lastly, I'm gonna suggest that if you're using Wikipedia as your main source of info, look more into citations and sources, and check out some academic papers on sites like NCBI - NIH and CDC rather than relying on info scratched from the (ever changing) surface of Wikipedia. I enjoyed your other videos so please don't take this the wrong way, but as an educator you have a certain responsibility when spreading information (or avoiding misinformation), I know making these videos is a great effort (and result), keep your research thorough and keep on the great job!
Side note: I wrote this like 2+ years ago, then some stuff happened that made me forget all about it until discovering it again while cleaning my drive folder today. Apologies for the belated (and possibly somewhat irrelevant by now) comment, but hey, better late than never.
Love your comment! I agree that cats are often misunderstood and sometimes even vilified (perhaps a remnant from the middle ages). It's also unfortunate that some folks feel entitled to touch an animal at any time they feel like it, and call it an 'asshole' just because it want's some time for itself. Cats aren't mean just because they still have their own will.
I agree with this, I usually love tierzoo videos but this one seriously sold cats short.
One of my housemates is a very heavy legacy cat build (she started her playthrough 21 years ago!). While she is suffering from the blindness, arthritis and hyperthyroidism debuffs, the buffs to mood and motivation she gives me are very important to my continuing motivation. And it is worth the proximity debuff to intelligent conversation (and I will maintain that 'do you know you are a babycat?' is a valid question)
lmao the yellowstone eruption is the next balance patch
But does that mean that the changes are only applied to some regions of the game
*Edgy Pickle* NA Servers would be the first to notice the patch’s effects but the entire community would soon feel the aftershocks as the balance changes will trigger a domino effect on climate and effectively destroy current tropical climate metas. Grassland, adaptable, and human classes would see a slight decrease in player count but would still be relevant builds after the patch.
SeanNotConnery humans are highly adaptable, even if they lose their current bufs gaines from heir kmowlage preservation they'll climb back up to the top in no time.
And if the yellostone update is peolongee too far im pretty sure the humams will find a way to leave the earth servers and colonise previously uninhabitable servers, perhaps even build their own servers someday in the form of o'niel cillinders
Dorssen Derhaeg who knows maybe mars has unique builds exclusive to the expansion pack
SeanNotConnery Slight = Likely more than 70% Dead then okay,
Cats anti-pest abilities are a really big thing. As soon as we started to store grain in large quantities pests became a real problem for humans. Its more like a symbiotic relationship
Fun Fact: both cats, and rodents are invasive species, spread through the servers by humans.
@@notahotshot same with precious Fido
Its called a trap, I will never understand cat lovers if a cat was a person in real life everyone would think wow what an asshole.
@@kommandokenny12345, you are correct of course, but my comment was not intended as an exhaustive list of invasive species. I was simply commenting on the species already referenced, assuming rodents to be the "pests" cats were good against.
@@wolfhide4488 and if a dog was a real person we would find them clingy and unable to live independently
I feel like this needs a part 2 or/and a reboot, because Support Cats have a LOT more going for them than just mind control parasites.
Sounds like cat mind control propaganda right there... lol
Tierzoo: "Toxoplasma reduces fear"
My anxiety: "Am I a joke to you?"
"This video was sponsored by dogs."
Raid shadow legends
U are infected surely
Ohhh baby
Infection detected.
Lmao yes
I was going to feel salty about the dog bias, but my cat crawled into my lap and started purring to comfort me.
"Calm yourself, my human. You and I both know I am superior to both dogs and you. Don't let those ignorant peasants tell you otherwise."
Cats like to use their owners as sources of food and shelter, dont fall for their lies.
Cats can bring dead animals to you because they're worried you're a bad hunter.
Cats try to share exp with their support humans, but unfortunately they don't seem to realise how inconsequential those exp bonuses are. Most human players would honestly rather dispose of the kill themselves, or return it to the cat player.
tiacat11 no we are testing your skills
Dog players are really nice, especially considering they have some of the strongest friendships between different playerbases. Their only issue is that some have horrible deformities such as the Pug build, but have an even stronger buff to mental health of their human. Dogs that are used in the huge clan PvP battles between human players seem to be able to cure depression when they are down with the human players giving them mental buffs. It should also be noted that Humans gain an aggression spike if their support is killed.
They can be similarly compared to the enraged mother class.
The labarador class is one of the most desired and popular classes being hunting, pack retrieval dogs (especially the Carp and Cod mains) and provides one of the highest morale boosts of any dogs with its cheery personality
Dogs and Cats support build can give you huge debuffs after they log out from the server. It could give you a semi-permanent debuff. I miss my dog.
this is the weakness of that class, unfortunaly, bring you hapiness but when they log off, depression
That debuff got traded for me when many of my clan members started to log off, it's kinda like a vaccine
Well as a human main in the farm specialization I think the cat “support class” can be very useful to rid of scavenger classes.
Dogs are scavengers as well. They just don't get small fry. Dogs, instead of cats, are good for team combos on other humans etc. Things that'll more than likely be a bigger threat to you.
@@ryguy1483 Small fry? You mean the absolute worst thing in existence? The ones that poison your food, bite through cables, destroy everything you try to create, AND BREED LIKE WITH SUCH INTENSITY THAT WE NAMED THE MASSIVE RATE OF REPRODUCTION AFTER THEM?! An average mouse female has about 7 of those tiny sacks of shit up more than 7 times a year. A female can reproduce 6 weeks after being born. That means infestation is basically inevitable unless the bastards are slaughtered relentlessly and without mercy. Rats Are the only thing worse than mice, not just Due to their size, but intelligence.
But yeah, you need both cats and dogs. Anything that kills a rodent of any shape and size, I'm all in. And wasels. Fuck them too.
@@ryguy1483 My buddy's from south Africa and they had some farm land and kept cats their horses and other animals because they could deal with many mambas and other venomus snakes easily.
Dogs can Chase off some larger animals but it's smaller pests that are what really do the damage.
@@ryguy1483 not really. First of all, domesticated dogs usually won't attack things except the occasional squirrel unless trained to do so, which requires a very large amount of effort. The ones that do can also pose a threat to other people and sometimes even the owner. Second, since humans usually live in populated areas that are safe from many predators, dogs aren't needed for combat. The only animals that are problematic, are pests. Cats excel when it comes to this
What about raptor gangs
"Grab targets to start team combos"
Thank you for this
SamyulDavis I wanted to give your comment a Like but I saw you had 69 and I just couldn't ruin that great number lol
Demon Wolf very nice
I used to have a cat player in my team a long time ago, he was like level 10 or so, never met another player as experienced, badass, and free as him. Miss you buddy
You forgot to add all of the negatives of adding a dog as a support. Once you add a dog, it is a heavy multi-daily commitment of feeding & "walking", plus bathing. Essentially adding the dog as a support is also adding yourself as a support character at the same time.
The cat comes with the "independence" trait; which includes being able to leave as much food out for it in advance as needed, the super advanced litterbox perk, and the self-cleaning buff.
While you may try to argue that the cat doesn't have as many support traits as the dog, the cat doesn't require you to spec yourself into support yourself to choose it.
“The blindness debuff” CHRIST 😂😂😂
Cats has a passive ability of staying clean.
Both cats and dogs groom themselves, I suppose cats are slightly less odorous . . . until they pee
@@NymbusCumulo928 dogs could groom themselves but cats are better at it bcuz from what ive learnt, you have to give dogs a bath very often. While cats rarely need baths
@@rainitaouwu you only need to wash them about once a week or two, not much. I think it's also because they are much bigger
so do dogs
@@fbi71 once a week is loads for a dog lmao. You only need to do it if they go or roll into something gross that you don't want in the house
This is a good example of framing at work
"Cats never made the leap to support" Also works as "Cats did not need to evolve as much as dogs did to support humans
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That's cause humans changed dogs for different things like animal herding, hunting, and guarding. Mean while cats where good enough as they were for pest control.
@@thediscordmemer5851 Dogs only really evolved due to being supports. They became less aggressive, more loyal, and smaller for the most part. Thats not forced evolution it's just these made the best companions thus they survived more. Cats meanwhile normally wouldn't care if humans wanted it or not, its doing its own thing and I think that was his point
@@ACE360x Did pugs naturally evolve also🤣🤣🤣
@@ACE360xThats what humans did to dogs yes they evolved on their own but a lot of them were selectively bread to suit humans needs like being: cute, small, big, strong, protective, smart, and a loyal companion.
@@thediscordmemer5851 humans who pick cat builds is a support main that specializes in farm or city. and there are only few human support mains as they favor combat which is why dogs are a lot more optional for them
As a cat person, I feel personally attacked.
Yes, by parasites.
@@oneoneonefour Dogs have parasites too
@@nataliafranciscatorressant9798 Sure, but a dog's parasite don't turn you into a dog person.
@@michaelleue7594 That's a conspiracy theory that is not proven
@@nataliafranciscatorressant9798 at least those are accidents
The second I read this title in my notification, I started to giggle.
Henrique Kenzo RUclipsr subclass ability:Good content
-Decreases Stress
-Increses happiness
-Time skip
Very, VERY well commented XD
Henrique Kenzo I look so forward to these
Cats are evil but I still love them. They're the ones who keep the rodent population down and that is a good thing
owls are the best class tbh
Make a tier list of bacteria!
S+ Tier
E Coli makes S+
The only build (along with viruses) to hard counter Humans.
@@Retroist2024 yeah pretty much, same cheap strategy. Associate with humand and you get an easy S-tier
God where to start?
Personally I am debuffed with paranoia and the cats using a support class that lowers fear is useful.
I started out playing as an outdoor cat but then a few other cat players convinced me to become a stray cat. Interestingly, this did not decrease my life span as much as you would expect because I eventually became a leader of the stray cat society and gained extra lives.
not firestar lmaooooo
I died of laughter when you said dogs could grab opponents for team combos
I don't get it..
Oh wait, now I do. Nevermind.
Who else wants parisites to be covered
@@Epicmonk117 what? Is there something I'm missing? I don't get it
@@dishsoap8428 Yeah I forgot what it was too lol
this is a reference to the famous Smash Melee clip, the Wombo Combo.
In it, a Fox player (Fox is a canine and thus a dog) grabs a player setting up a very powerful team combo
For dog players: never run out of your house, even though it may look like a tempting adventure. It will be extremely hard to get back. Your human will miss you! i miss you nala :(
Thank you...
Now I am depressed
Dude my cousins‘ dog also escaped years ago. Her name was Nala too. That name is cursed...
Aww I’m sorry about Nala. ~hugs 💕
my uncle once decided to evict our cat, he took him with him in the car and put him on the opposite side of the city .... 2 days later our cat returned home.
sorry for your loss tho, I hope she returns soon
I'm not sure if it will help after 3 months, but I've been told putting items with the support player's scent (both cats and dogs) just outside the door can help them find their way home. (For indoor cats, a blaze orange collar is also encouraged so people know immediately that it's not an outdoor cat when they see it.)
For dog players, that warning about avoiding having your human spec your build should not be taken lightly. Not only will you have your stats reduced to such an extent that you will absolutely get bodied absent your human, but your longevity stat will also suffer, so the spec itself is reducing your uptime.
My cat Tonks has been in my party for going on 10 years and has truly been a great team player and helped me out of a lot of binds. He is different than a lot of other cats though and follows me like a dog. Lol He's alerted me of danger as well.
A new study was done and it confirmed cats undertsand when you call their name, but they choose to ignore you lmao
@@tsuksaamane5191 google search.
Sounds more like a bypoduct of the assumptions those who party with cats make. Cats can absolutely be trained to come when you call, if you always make it in their best interest to follow your commands--those who party with dogs but don't spend enough time maintaining the Homeward Bound buff will find that their dog won't come when called.
Oftentimes human mains just assume their cat party member can't be trained, so they don't try. Don't get me wrong, getting the Homward Bound buff to even activate isn't as easy with a dog, but the same principals apply. if you always make sure to reward your team member as soon as you do what you asked (even if it was an accident), your partymate will want to do that more often
@Jakub Bończak He thinks his name means "food".
@@Flowtail you missed a really important preposition in the second sentence of the second paragraph... I'll let you spot it...
Sayuas To be fair, my dog probably thinks his name means food 😂
I'm so glad you discussed the negative aspects of breeding
Fickle Me I agree. Such a terrible thing we do
Fickle Me right. Humans have gotten to a point that selective breeding is quite literally killing them. I tend to prefer mixed breeds for their usually healthier lifespan.
My only exception is for a purebreds Doberman or husky. Because they are still for the most part healthy
@@daytonrd17 The breeds that are not far removed from wolf tend to be healthier (but also tend to be more aggressive). Interestingly Huskies seems to be the exception, with low agression but retaining of group cooperation and wolf looks/health.
So I teamed up with two dog builds. While the buffs are great, I gotta say that I don't enjoy that much their "Steal & hoard" ability, sometimes I can't find my gears or I find them destroyed. They usually get and loose that ability early on, but my supports developed it very recently now that they are entering high lvl territory. Weird choice but it can be amusing.
Would be cool to see a tier list on various dog breeds, ranking them by how well they do their assigned job, as moral boost companions, general hardiness, and training reward
IS LIFE JUST A GAME TO THIS MAN!?
andrewesquivel IS THIS GAME JUST LIFE TO YOU?!?
Do you believe games are just silly things?
Only NPCs act like this game would be their life
life is just a game to nature itself.
Tiefsee no, this game is my life. If you die in the game. You die in real life.
Cats "usually" poop and pee in a box...That a God tier level ability.
And they can find the way home
Id say cats are smarter then you want to give them, I go out hunting with my cat, he follows me everywhere he climbs trees catches rodents together with me, just taught him to catch and release since these are just normal field mice, but hey if you never teach them they will never learn that goes for human babies too. And he can use the same strike attack as the Fox does, tilts his ears and leaps ontop of it, and this is in dense grass with no vision of it what so ever (its a Devon Rex)
Usually
You can also train a dog to do the same thing. It's much more rare, but possible.
@@Punditas1 Absolutely, but the problem starts here, has anyone even tried to train their cats? People just assume that they do what they want to do, the can do whatever you train them to do, goes for most animals.
Honestly I played a human build and some skills I picked had fear downsides, so i had to cooperate with a cat player to balance that problem. It works wonders
Some major oversights I'd like to point out: cats have a higher level cap. You can work on honing a cat's support skillset for a longer period of time before having to get a new one and level it up from its base build all over again. Additionally, when playing on Hard Mode (impoverished PC, lower GP accrual rate) and you have to live in a dungeon with a DM rather than a base run by the PC, DMs often invoke a No Support Class Debuff, but cats have a much easier time bypassing this debuff than dogs because of their stealth abilities.
I lived in rural west africa for 2 years and the only thing that kept my hut from literally crawling with spiders, cockroaches, rats, scorpions, and bats was my trusty cat support
If its that bad move to like canada
Yes but a dog can scare off the pack of lions waiting outside
@@3pw878 yeah just move to canada! Surely it’s easy as it sounds right? Right?!
@@MAlru005 I don't think it's that easy... (ik you're being sarcastic)
Same! I live in America but I live in the middle of the woods in an old wooden house that gets far too much attention from bug mains. My feline support is the only reason my base camp isn’t swarming with them
2:17 I'm watching this as my cat is sleeping in my lap. I turned my head to him and said "YOU DID WHAT?!??"
@JAMES FARIA that's why you should always use protection
@@SmolTerribleTornado lol got him
@JAMES FARIA peta open up
@@disrespectthemwomensubjuga5471 These replies are cursed.
@@TypicalUkraine_ times are changing
Plz make a video on house cats! I think some great points to make could be their flexibility, agility and ability to live outdoors more efficiently than canine builds. Like you mentioned, outdoor cats playthroughs have benefits with support aide from human players as well as freedom to explore the map. I think this CATagory of domestic cats would be especially good to mention when discussing the benefits of playing a cat build. Indoor cats, though less reclusive and a more loving to their human supports, are weaker when fighting, and the opposite with strays, who are sadly neglected and often suffering some sort of hp loss. I hope you make a video soon on it ! Love ur vids btw
You forgot to mention one of the cat’s most powerful abilities, “The Long Road”, this insanely powerful ability allows cats to always remember their way home, even when they stray incredibly far from it. Dogs on the other hand, despite being one of the most loyal builds in the game, don’t possess this ability at all, meaning if they ever escape the bases humans make for them, they will likely become strays without the help of a kind human, which can often lead to a Game Over!
I hate it when nobody wants to switch to healer
that's the human lmao they are called veterinarians/doctors
Cats/dogs don't have any heal skill
dog has lick wound's, so don't claim they don't have a heal ability, cat's have a similar one, but that's for them, they likely won't use it on you. (the capabilities of these moves are very lackluster, akin to someone using a medkit without taking the prerequisites to correctly use it)
Some lizards have the self regrow limb ability, otherwise humans are the only ones with the healer class
dogs can help a lot in mental issue just by being there for humans. thus, dogs can indirectly help with some physical ailments on humans.
I’d also like to mention the cat’s 9 lives ability which basically is summarized as their high agility stat which can prevent death from blunt physical attack through avoiding critical strikes but doesn’t provide protection against the disease status effect
Actually cats do prevent heart disease in humans. Cat owners have a 40% less chance of getting heart disease, the leading cause of death among humans worldwide. Their purring literally heals us. That for some reason wasn't mentioned in the video but is incredible.
@@nateeaton7729 you really have to copy paste that sentence even if the commenter doesn't mention about heart desease
@@emiefincale562 I did word it a little weird, I wasn't trying to sound like I was proving them wrong or anything. I just thought it was a cool fact.
@@nateeaton7729 oh sorry my bad😅
@@emiefincale562 nah ur good lol
Cats psychological support is similar to the dog's, although not having the same other features dogs have, I believe this kind of strategy will only become more and more popular with people having less time and space to daily quests like training and walking
Whenever I have low health my cat sits besides me and tries to heal me by purring. It might not work on me the way it works for him, but I appreciate the effort. I love cat mains.
Also comparing the two is extremely dumb. They're both good for different tasks. You might as well compare hamsters to goldfish.
How did you miss the most broken skill of domesticated cats: purring
Not only is it tough to get, since you have to give up roar, but purring enhances mind control effects and has slight Regenerative abilities in a small radius.
keiharris332
Not only that but the purring skill which links into the meowing skill which allows for mild manipulation effects too!
Anonymous Candle yeah OMG jeeze even high level dogs that spec into adorableness don't really make top 16 all too often. Plz even a simple cool down hot fix devs...
You don't necessarily need to give up Roar. Tiger players have figured out how to spec into both.
Domesticated cats are basically just really small tigers, frankly, and still remarkably strong for their size. With all four feet on the ground and enough traction, a common cat can stalemate a tug of war with most humans. Even many large dogs can't do that.
Purring also reduces chance of broken bones.
Lets not forget F1-F6 Savannah Cat build which utilizes Purr, Meow, Hiss, Growl and Roar and capability of towering Small-Medium size dogs and are considered domesticated they also have defensive capabilities to the humans whom they support and would strike terror into those entering their home territory thinking they are small Leopards or a whole different kind of large cat in it of itself. Their build is highly unique where other players wouldn't want to mess around with.
Dog ppl: Warrior/Knight Class
Cat ppl: Assassin/Rogue Class
Pretty much
as a dog person, I would like to add the bard class
@The Bear Path Times ???
I totally agree with that.
yo, if cat where same size as dogs then cats would win, they are just better at combat than dogs.
It's important to keep in mind that cats have one of the only abilities in the game that can heal other players and itself. The "Purr" ability not only grants a moral boost, but it also give a healing AoE to anyone nearby.
Another important ability which makes cats an excellent support-class tier is their important role in balancing the rat playerbase from multiplying and spreading more diseases. A very nice and appreciated ability indeed from a human perspective.
Valid points, but I can't help but notice the absense of one of the cats greatest bonuses as a companion: their unique builds make them adept at eliminating flyweight troll builds such as rats. While this seems minor at first, one must recall the bubonic plague incident; in which a small band of rodents teamed up with some parasite class and bacteria class players to devastate the human playerbase on the European server.
This aged well....
Rats are definitely not a troll build.
Terriers are a thing
It's so great to read this channel's comments, you guys are so creative
RRGH! this infuriates me. dogs are absolutely the best human support class, but when it comes to cats, Toxoplasma Gandii doesn't actually do much to humans. Other then a 0.5% chance of wanting to drive recklessly, Toxoplasma is sort of lost in the human body, not knowing which brain cells to manipulate. I have gathered info from many different sources, including Radiolab.
Humans have a resistance to toxoplasmosis. It can't establish itself inside a human unless they're affected with a strong immune system debuff, and leaves no lasting changes.Further, cats don't trigger the fear effect in humans. Even if toxoplasmosis was viable against humans it still wouldn't give cats any affection bonus
The real reason cats became a top-tier support class is that they're a hard counter to birds and rodents specced into thief or plaguebearer builds. Human settlements with cat supports didn't have to worry so much about birds eating crops or rodents eating stored grain.
Also, if a human player is injured in certain ways, such as broken bones, the cat player may help heal the human, using the 'purr' ability.
I am very annoyed at how much grief cat players get over the debunked toxoplasmosis build
And snakes... cats kill snakes too my cat did that one time
@KridOCaign that explanation works if the cat players simply occupy the same space as the humans, but the active “alliance” between them (ie, humans giving cats free XP and safe spawn points) essentially destroy any need the cat players might have to grind XP for themselves, thus the rodent pests in the same vicinity go unchecked because although there are stray/outside cats everywhere, they are in no danger of being eaten because the cats are already full. The only time cats actually work as a pest control method under these circumstances is when the cat mains themselves get so bored that they end up hunting for sport and then offer the elim to their human party members as payment for the free XP and personal sleeping quarters, but it doesn’t happen nearly enough to be of notable benefit in an area with a highly active rodent player base. The end result is that the human ends up burning the candle on both ends by not only carrying the cat main, but also has to deal with the rodents with traps and poisons because the cat isn’t doing its job.
Dogs also provide pest control
The cat guild is like the thief or Rouge guild. The dog guild is more versatile and can be closer to any of the other guilds.. but you have to be careful. Choose the wrong bread and you might accidentally choose the jester guild or end up actually being either an npc or a background object.
As someone who had a dog build, I feel like the loyalty perks that dogs have are unbeatable and, if I do say so myself, OP.
Ive come to appreciate the cat support role because one of my friends has a glitch that causes her entire body to spasm when over stressed and her cat companion had learned the warnings of an oncoming glitch attack and warn her so she is bot in a dangerous spot
(Aka she has sezuires and her cat can smell them coming and bites her nose to warn her)
Good kitty!
It's insane what animals can pick up on dogs are trained to detect when diabetics sugars are too high or low and alert their owner. We don't deserve pets
Did you know that cats will purr to try to make themselves feel better? When a cat purrs, it releases endorphins within its brain. These endorphins are hormones that cause feelings of happiness, sociability, affection, excitement, and much more.
Studies show that not only does the cat’s purr release endorphins within themselves but also in humans. This can decrease stress levels, assist with coping through an illness, and even lower blood pressure, there’s also many studies showing that if a cat purrs on you while you’re feeling down or sad, they are trying to heal you and make you feel better. So if a cat does that to you keep doing what you’re doing because they truly love you.
Omg that cat is so sweet😭
still over all dogs are better
I’m waiting for 20XX, when every player is either a human, or human support class.
Dont You mean a fox?
Ahh, that's sad. Don't say that.
Nah fam, 20XX is for cockroaches, guys are gonna survive for millennia.
No, everyone is gonna main fox
21XX will be the dolphin meta, humans will be nerfed to oblivion.
while i acknowledge that dogs have higher skill ceiling as a support paired with human, they also require more resources. Most of the dog players spent so many points in support skills that their own survivability is F tier and completely depend on the human to share loot. Cats have a much lower investment floor for the human player to pair with, since as you said, they're not really a support, they rather form a pact with human as their kits synergize really well. Historically, their pest control ability is part of what snowballed the human power level in certain servers.
Terriers are still better at clearing out rats.
Cats are just passive about it. Not to mention they'll kill birds and whatever else they can get their claws on.
Dingos & coyotes disagree
I will probably team up with a low-level cat build within the next month. my base is very small, but I plan on putting a lot of experience into leveling up the cat build's obedience stat and taking it on walking quests, similar to those usually completed with dog builds. a lot of human builds think I have the madness debuff, but cat builds can actually benefit greatly from walking quests.
youve obviously never had a domesticated cat attack your heel in the middle of the night. almost game over material.
Aww, it's not it's fault, they're incapable of understanding that we DON'T have night vision. @Seth Begley.
>domesticated
>implying
That heel attack or even the "Jump on the bed out of nowhere!" emote can trigger the heart attack or stroke debuffs.
@@egementanik2170 Personally, my favorite video is of the Cat player (who clearly specced in a tank build) punishing the Dog griefing their low level Human guildmate.
You're overexaggerating.
I think you fail to appreciate cat’s “good roommate” skill combo. As part of their stealth abilities, cats have access to self cleaning and waste burial, this makes upkeep costs in terms of time for their human partners extremely low allowing them to access the “good boy” trait for much less work than a dog that requires baths, walks, trips outside to handle waste, and the occasional cleaning accidental waste inside. Also, again because of their stealth based skill set, cats are generally quieter and more peaceful than dogs who will sometimes negate their entire “good boy” trait by using “Bark at nothing.”
While I agree, I think you forget that cats can have similar disadvantages, with the "caterwaul" or "incessant meowing" skills. Especially male cat builds that have avoided the "neutered" trait. Cat players also tend to be much less generous with their support buffs, usually preferring a more solo playstyle.
Cats also are much less affectionate and spend more of their time on their own whereas dogs are much more friendly and stay with you much more
Cats are seriously a nuisance, I was forced into believing this as a kid though. I have attempted to change it numerous times. I have owned a few of my own cats, but have only met ONE that I truly liked. Diesel. He was awesome. BUT I grew up across the street from our resident "crazy cat lady" She let her dozens of cats roam the neighborhood as they please, and every single god damn son of a bitch Saturday I would step in her cats shit mowing my front lawn, its way fouler than a dogs. You are right, when a cat is properly trained and stays inside, they can be alright. But as far as having a real true companion, there is zero comparison to a properly trained dog. One of my border collies has only barked twice in his life. Not an exaggeration, I have heard him bark two times. Two. My wife has never heard him bark.
@@jaswik2023 It depends on the way the cat was treated before you got it, and how you treat it cats that you somewhat raised since they were babies will be more attracted to you sometimes even more than dogs if you treat them right
@@icheckered6837 I dont know I took care a kitten who was born in my house by her mother but it barely visits me although it's still nice to keep it it's about 1.5 years now
Whereas we got a dog from the street and vaccines it and took care it is much more affectionate ita been there for 4.5 years now
Another great video!
I am considering doing my next playthrough as a member of the skua faction - however I'm not sure which one to pick (although I am in favor of the great skua)! I would appreciate it if you could do a guide for optimizing such a playthrough.
(Sorry for repeating myself on several of your videos).
Wait, wait. Cats also have the ability called: "Purr", which has a healing bonus effect on human players. Most (all cats have different personalities) cat builds require less assistance/involvement from their party members, and can do a lot on their own, calling to them only when needed. (Their human teammates still must give them a lot of attention and love on their own nonetheless). While dog mains need constant movement and help of their team for the most essential of things. The "walk at 3 am in the middle of winter" quests are a tiebreaker to me.
Cats are great companions to human builds with lower energy output.
My main currently has a dog support and two cat supports. The dog support is VITAL for getting her through things like other human players, but the cat supports actually have proven very useful too. The passive buff Purr has helped combat her numerous debuffs from the Abusive Family start, and the two cat supports she has have learned to mitigate their Claw usage enough to allow Snuggle interactions, including the Belly Rub interaction, typically reserved for dog supports.
"Debuffs from the Abusive family start" omg lmao
I hope your main's situation has improved since this game log. It's definitely a difficult start condition... It can be escaped, even utilised for greater empathy bonuses and resilience if the long-term status debuffs can be mitigated, but no-one could ever call it easy. Humans may be OP, but the intra-hominid meta can be sadly very challenging for individual players if one ends up with a toxic group. That doesn't mean that there's no hope, however! You're already making exceptional support plays, after all.
You can do this.
these comments are amazing.
@@truecrimejungle I just discovered this channel today morning. Casually deciphering their language.
Because of their exceptional senses, a cat using the Nap skill enables the Human to access the Peace of Mind morale bonus. This does have a minor downside if the cat is using Nap with a Human executing the Lap move. Minor damage can result if the Nap is terminated by the Noise environmental hazard or if the Human executes a Sneeze move.
Though, if you spawn in India, the support class "Cow" is pretty good.
Exremely underrated comment
Nope, Cow is just a legendary item with very few abilities, Monkeys are a far better support class, as random encounters with other human players can grant you in game currency as monkeys are known to give humans a mana buff, which is now useless as we all play primarly FPS, Battle royal, or survival games where your spritual strenght doesn´t do sh!t.
some different types of dogs are good for hunting and military support, others are to support your mental health.
I would like to point out that cats purr at a pitch and volume that has been proven to help heal injuries (small and big), as well as making people calmer and happier. While I don’t think this is enough to beat dogs, it’s still worth mentioning.
Don't starve music really makes me want to play it
Edit: yeah nvm I died in like 20 minutes
1) Explore early; roads and paths double your movement speed.
2) While you're going to need a steady supply of wood, twigs, and grass, food is the biggest initial concern. Finding a Savannah biome (yellow) with Beefallo or a pig village will give you easy sources of poop (feed non-meat to pigs to get it), which in turn lets you make farms and relocate grass tufts and berry bushes.
3) You will need at least a few pieces of gold to make your science machines. Look for a rockyland biome where ore is found or a graveyard where you'll find some lying around or able to be dug up. Generic gravedigger items and meat can also be offered to a Pig King for gold.
4) Build a backpack; it helps.
5) Build a crockpot, learn to cook. It's the most important structure in the game.
6) Have a stone firepit. It's useful.
7) The wolves will first hit around Day 9; you'll be warned by growling noises and a line like "did you hear that?" from your character. Either get yourself a spear and some wood armor and learn to kite them or lure them into critters that will do your job for you like Beefallo. Later attacks get bigger and come more frequently and with less warning.
8) For winter, use a heat stone and warm clothing to survive the temperature. Store what food you can. A caged bird can produce eggs from meat, including fire-cooked monster meat, which satisfies numerous recipes.
9) Don't starve.
Git gud.
Willy Wonka jeez 20 min?!
git gud
They ask you to do one thing and you screw it up!
studyingcereviciae I got it on the vita and at max made it to day 5 and youre telling me theres gonna be wolfs after me on day 9
DISCUSS THE POLLINATOR CLASS PLEASE!
Numbingbird Yeah but the pollution sub class "bat" would have to get it's own video. But yeah would be great to hear about the bee class.
I own bees so I grow sunflowers just to help them. Bastards got twenty different species of pollinators on them! Bumble bees as big as a grape! Some mason bees. Weird bee lookalikes that I'm pretty sure aren't even classified as a species yet (srsly there's some weird bees I've seen), and tons of my honeybees (they're done pollinating much tho they gave up cuz they have a shit ton of honey for the winter and it's cold and I think they're scared of them big ass bumble bees. srsly like they're ten X bigger than the honeybees. So I wanna understand whos on top.
Yes please!
Numbingbird Bees hands down have the greatest pollination dps.0
I'd like to see it just to know why hummingbirds are so damn aggressive.
I think you glossed over the cats "Pest Control" ability, which led to them allying with Human players in the first place. The history of the domestic cat build can be traced back to a long gone patch in the Egyptian server, where this allience first developed when the humans increasingly skilled their "Sessile" and "Agriculture" abilities. Rodent players were abusing these strats in a highly parasitic manner, which was then subsequently curbed by the cats.
This relationship later transformed with increasing levels of domestication. Many of the negatively attributed kills on weaker builds involve builds that are generally considered to be parasitic or pests in the city and suburban servers (E.g. Rat and Pidgeon mains) , although granted some builds outside this classification may also suffer collateral damage.
Props to cats for that but that stuff took place during a different patch and doesn’t have bearing on their effectiveness as support builds in the current update. A support class needs more than resting on its laurels. Today “pest control” is the short way of saying “devastating populations of birds and small mammals causing severe damage to the ecosystems their introduced to”. I’m not saying this to hate on cats but I think dogs have a lot more to offer as a support build in the current meta.
Terriers are used for ratting too......in fact I've seen dogs take out 100s of mice In a single ratting session.
Cats are more passive about it.
If anything cats kill way too many innocent birds.
Yes but latest servers have a crafting bench where you can make a better mousetrap
Dogs can also spec into tricks that greatly boost their stats. The current dog build in my server is a mix between the Scottish Terrier and the mini poodle, and his current level is about 9-10 months. He has a near-limitless amount of energy, can pull with a force equaling up to five times his own weight (he's like 20-21 pounds as of posting this), is very vocal, and super fluffy. This last perk boosts his already-overpowered ability to negate mental debuffs in nearby players. He also likes it when I hold him in a hug, giving me the "Calm Mind" status effect until I have to let him go.
Dog's AoE Morale Boost is called "Good Boy", I think the Cat's AoE Morale Boost is called "Purr". There are some cats that do upgrade to specialty tasks such as "Mouser" or "Snuggler". Snuggler builds offer an increased morale boost to Elderly Humans. *edit* I forgot to add that on rare occasions cats can level up to the "Hero Cat" build, this will more than double the defenses of their Humans.
until yje elderly dies and they waste no time in eating them
@@jason93gangsta Sadly yeah, once they have no more food they resort to eating the corpse to stay alive. Like those soccer players.
The cat "purr" ability also comes with the benefit of lowering your risk of developing the heart disease effect, the #1 game ender for humans in all servers. You should look it up, it's pretty cool and was weirdly left out of the video.
Another cat lover hates on the dog lover that's cool :(
I mean, to be fair, BOTH dog and cat builds eat you after you die - see any stats on it, or the awesome book “will my cat eat my eyeballs?”. The answer is yes. And so will your dog.
me: *looks at my untrained maltese doggo who is scared of plastic bags*
me: you're top tier, buddy
edit: i forgot i wrote this
Maltese are companion dogs. I want to say if you start early they could be trained as siezure dogs, bit I dunno.
Your doggo is still top tier.
Your doggo is a good boy.
Question How’s your dog now?
@@bluetorcher5544 nom nom
My retard brain read "molester"
Now get human to team with a dog and cat build and you'll have a "triple" support combo
Humans with Cat supports: "Yeah dogs are great, I love them, a cat just suits my playstyle more."
Humans with Dog supports: "Cat players are ALL SOCIOPATHS did you know a cat MURDERED MY WIFE!?!?"
True. Idk why MOST of the Humans with Dog supports always act so entitled
Spoken like a true dog hater 😡
@@davidjr4903 don’t worry unlike you. we don’t hate dogs. WE HATE DOG PEOPLE😉
@Sarah Haruka dogs are useful in almost any circumstances, cats are cancer
@@davidjr4903 Dog people are simply awful.
Cats aren't support because they are too invested in their own playthrough, while dogs are invested in the playthroughs of their kin and owners.
Cat and human players have found a symbiotic relationship that isn't built so much out of companionship and support, but mutual XP profit
Nathan Aaron ^ This
That's in the video my dude.
Cats don't really contribuite though.
The reason we started allying cats was mostly because they killed rodents for us, rodents being one of the biggest issues we had in early game playthroughs.
It is pretty crazy how much cats and humans are suited to each other. Humans in any kind of population density naturally attract rodents which eat their food. For cats this means a higher than average density of prey. Agriculture would have been so much harder without cats to help out.
First of all Toxoplasmosis only effects a mammal player's reaction to the smell of cat urine. It doesn't effect a human's impression when they look at a cat, or a picture of a cat which has more to do with their large heads and forward facing eyes than anything else. It is a scapegoat, at this point really a meme, which I have heard parroted by salty dog mains over and over again on the forums as the only explanation they'll accept to the fact that cat memes outnumber dog memes on the internet 10 to 1. Secondly, not ONE mention of the purring status effect and it's proven connection to lower blood pressure, decrease heart disease and negate the stress debuff!
Given that it's been linked to the healing of soft tissues, bones, lowering the risk of heart attacks and improving the ability to fight off infections it's one of the few AOE heals naturally available in the game, and yet TierZoo has the nerve to suggest that cats are not a support class! This is to say nothing of how their rodent catching (which is depicted here solely as a negative) has helped the farmer prestige class and helped shut down plague players by knocking down their host numbers where it matters most, _near human spawn points._
Too great of a deal is also made over the usefulness of dogs in this video. While it's true that they _can_ be used to find loot and negate the blindness debuff, due to their slow talent acquisition and the sheer amount of grinding that it takes for them to attain a prestige class few dog players ever develop past the level where they acquire the "bark at strangers" and "shit in the yard" skills. This is to say nothing of the sheer amount of troll builds that exist for dogs such as chihuahuas who for reasons most of us will never be able to fathom, place most of their points into expanding their hatred resource pool and their tremble ability.
I would also like to add that as a support class for humans, new dog players have to learn the "housebroken" trait where as cats begin the game with the "use a litterbox" quest. This video shows a plain bias and sadly TierZoo doesn't know what he's talking about. It is always hard to say that when you see a bad video by a pro who's opinion that you normally respect.
As a somewhat serious aside, all of this is to say nothing of the fact that dogs have and do, in certain places of the world pose just as much a threat to native ecosystems as cats ever have and a legitimate threat to the health and safety of humans. A wild dog might kill a man, a wild cat, might not let you pet it.
That's a very good point.
I love how people actually argue about this and bring up valid points using MMO language.
Can we also talk about how the current meta wouldn't even exist without cat players?
When the agriculture skill tree was introduced and human players began using Pack Tactics to raise crops instead of hunt, millions of rodent players saw an easy way to steal XP from human players. The Storage Banks that the humans had for their loot were little more than a few walls with a door, as proper locked chests had yet to be added to the game, and rodent players could easily slip through cracks in the walls and take what they wanted.
A few enterprising cat players saw an opportunity here and offered to ally with the humans. The cats would use their expert assassin skills to keep the rodent players out, and in return, the humans would provide shelter. This alliance between cats and humans had just as much impact on the meta as the dog-human alliance had. The dogs continued to protect the humans while they went questing, while the cats guarded the humans' loot. This allowed more humans to go questing, which allowed the Agriculture Meta to flourish.
Even today, after several patches which brought about the Medieval Meta, the Renaissance Meta, and the Industrial Meta, the Information Meta we are currently in still needs cat players to function properly. All those billions of kills that cat players score every year allow humans to grow crops without rodent players eating it all.
I recommend this video if you want to see how crucial cat players are to the current meta: ruclips.net/video/gqOzTh2pjEw/видео.html
I agree. Cat supports have been around since ancient Egypt, even though they were a much less experienced player base in that aspect.
The cat's passive healing ability is kind of op.
had a dog player in my human clan for just over a decade, unfortunately he was forced to log off just over a year ago due to various age and genetic related debuffs. still miss playing with him, he really helped a lot with my "negative mental health" debuffs. I even kept his clan tag and have it on display in the main room of our clan hub zone to remember him. hope he's having fun in his new build wherever he may be :(
Okay, here's the lowdown on the relationship between cats and humans:
Cats are the nature's pest control, and self-sufficient to boot. Back in the old days, farmer could take a cat, plop it down in the middle of their field, then walk off fully confident that their rodent problem is dealt with. A sailor can leave a cat on a ship, and they won't have to worry about rats anymore. A hotel can let a cat prowl through their rooms, and it'll clean up all the little roaches, bugs, and mice that would normally bother residents. This is especially true since cats will kill things even when they aren't hungry. Cats will just kill, and kill, and kill, and kill, until all the crop-eating pests in its territory are gone.
Even nowadays, many farms keep a colony of cats around because it's a heck of a lot cheaper than hiring exterminators, and longer-lasting instead of happening only once a visit. They'll still use exterminators of course, but much less frequently since the problems are a lot easier to contain.
Cat's *could've* held the black plague in check by killing off the mice (and mice fleas) that were transmitting it, except the dumb peasants back then blamed cats for spreading the plague and killed them off instead. As a result, rodent populations exploded and lots of people died.
So, yes, cats were extremely important to human civilization. By controlling pests, they helped humans to maximize crop gains, and minimized the spread of diseases. They don't do anything else because we've never needed them to do anything else, since the one thing they're already perfectly specced for is extremely important already. And now you know why ancient Egypt worshiped the little genocide engines.
Give the little furballs some credit. They aren't the freeloaders everyone thinks they are. Unless, that is, your house is already pest-free and you keep them indoors anyways.
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Cats are also pests
KaptenAmurika Bravo, blatantly biased vid EXPOSED!
KaptenAmurika I disliked cats before but now I think that their psychopathic obsession with killing everything that moves is adorable.
Fun fact: most people who are genetically Polish have the O type blood. O type blood? Immune to black plague, as black plague hides from the immune system by pretending to be the B type protein found in B and AB blood types, and similar enough to the A type protein that A blood types give it a pass, too. O type blood? Don't contain any proteins, so the body's immune system is onto Y. pestis' game from the start.
Some human players use cat players to help out with depression traits. Cats are much more relaxed than dogs, so if human players just want some company that is adorable and fluffy without being so playful and jump on you, cats are generally the meta. Plus, most human players just use spider players to deal with pests.
Dogs: Look at this team! We're gonna do great!
Cats; I need healing!
Oh my god this is incredibly accurate
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Humans and a lot of Dogs have a rather special shared ability when partnered up. "I'll Protect You" is a buff that is applied if another player attempts to attack or run an intimidate check on the Human or Dog player, where the other player will instantly hard-aggro onto the attacking player. Human players have been known to power through even harsh intimidation checks and, even unarmed, attacking builds FAR outside their weight class if their partnered Dog player is threatened.
Human and Dog players absolutely cannot stand seeing their partner be attacked and fighting off both is extremely challenging. It's extra risky because if the human player has a high-level weapon craft on them attacking their partnered dog player is one of the fastest ways any build can wind up on a attack from it. When human players might seem to be unaggressive they can often become downright merciless in this scenario. Don't be a player foolish enough to attack a Human/Dog combo.
Well said, I can attest that this is absolute fact!!!