People defending the woman in the first story really need to rethink their choices. It doesn't matter why it happened, she made the choice to cheat. Regardless of whether she was encouraged to do it or not, she's still the one who went through with it. She betrayed her husband, end of story. When you marry, you make a vow to only be with your partner so you shouldn't put yourself in situations which lead to temptation. You shouldn't entertain other people's ideas of cheating.
I can't stand when people refer to cheating as a mistake. It is an active decision to betray the trust of your partner. If OP's ex needs to be mad at anything she needs to be mad at herself for being so weak that some peer pressure from her trash friends put on her.
Im appalled at people defending the woman. Near the end she basically mentions he should be grateful that she took an STD test and did not have sex with him, protected him from her STD when she could just ignore it, not take the STD test and left her husband in the dark about her infidelity. After that, she just uncaringly sign the divorce wanting to get over him. Thats her showing her true colors, her narcissistic tendencies, her uncaring personality and lack of love & concern for her husband. That speaks volumes about her character.
@@FridgedOtter It's still classed as a mistake. "An act or judgement that is misguided or wrong." That's the official definition, you might be getting the term mixed up with accident. It's an unforgivable act and I'm not defending it.
Emphasis on HER FAMILY, not their but her as she said it was HER daughter and as a female myself I can’t imagine giving one of my future children a name that is from my ex or that my husband wouldn’t agree with. She needs help and therapy to get over her ex which died over 6 years ago
So OP revealed what happened when his stbx got arrested and _holy shit._ When the police arrived stbx completely lost it. She threw stuff and physically assaulted one of the police officers. Before they could detain her stbx locked herself in the bedroom with the baby, screaming that she was going to kill the baby and that she actually HATED her daughter because the baby had OP’s mother’s blue eyes. When the police finally got into the room and put her in cuffs, _then_ she acted like everything was said in the heat of anger. Oh, and the reason stbx was held longer than the mandatory 72 hours was that she admitted in a text message to a friend that she wanted to cut her daughter’s eyes out. The friend took the text to the police, which I imagine stbx did not expect her to do. All of this is most likely what contributed to the police and CPS throwing their support behind OP.
Story 1: He should have told her he would reconsider divorce if she exposed everyone who was at the party for cheating on their SO, including the bride. Then, after everyone had been properly named and shamed, go through with the divorce. One thing it seems people defending her forgot: She didn't just cheat on him once. She admitted that after she did it the first time, she figured "what the hell" and did it the entire time on the trip. SHE made that choice. No one forced her. She wasn't a hostage. Then, she only cared about being humiliated, not about breaking her husband's heart and taking away a normal life from their son. If you can defend her, you are no better.
"I'm sorry, but you should be grateful I didn't do worse." The AUDACITY of a cheater to say something like that. Plus I think its clear she isn't sorry, she's sorry she got caught. I was paraphrasing btw
She also said she came clean but she only did it when she was caught,before she was perfectly fine with hiding it and making her husband feel awful by pushing him away because of her horrible choices
Ah yes I just got ran through by multiple prostitutes and was afraid I got STD but I only checked because I was worried about my husbands wellbeing. I totally didn't worry about my own health nor getting exposed if I did indeed get sick. That is why I was doing the entire thing in secret because I was going to come clean with everything and not because I was checking if I could easily get away with it I swear. The husband should tell her she should be grateful he didn't beat her up and as a result he saved her health or even life in the process of his noble sacrifice and becoming a vile person or going to jail for doing so didn't factor in his decision it was all out of his love for her.
Honestly, i would have gone after the wifes friends too, warn the husband she might cheat on him. Tell him the whole story above what happened and what the friend said. She was the one that caused the whole thing, she pressured the wife into it.
@@nyankatte that's right!! I would have stayed with the wife actually, just to get more info and then guilt the wife into telling the friends husband, then double divorce at the same time.
Story 2: For all those saying the wife is in love with her ex and not obsessed, her actions the text book definition of obsession highlighted by her threat to un alive herself but its an obsession or more of a delusion that is shared by the rest of her and her ex’s family. This being 2023 has got a lot to do with this, in 1983 this wouldn’t have been a discussion, but as we are in 2023 it shows by some of the responses in this video that as far as lot of people are concerned the biological father has no right as regard the child because the mother carried it for 9 months. In that case if the father has no rights why should he be forced to financially support the child?
And there it is. See if y'all can kill it, why can't I at least abandon it. And I'm not saying to abandon your kid or that you can't terminate it, I'm just saying that it's a clear double standard. Hell, a male child can be raped, and would still in some states have to pay child support, which crosses the issue of male victims not being taken seriously with it. Just things need changing, so if you can vote, vote for someone who you think will make this change. Things don't change when you keep people in office who haven't made that change in a long time.
Very good question. No rights but all the responsibility. Also no say in if a pregnancy is carried to term or not. If the man wants to keep the child but the woman doesn't he has no say. If he doesn't want to keep the child but she does he still has to pay.
If this is true story, Im just confused and worried that alot of people supported the obsession and dillusion of the wife/STBXW. Are people really now are not thinking logically and more "emotionally" dumb!!! Are these common in the west?
@@GraysonJStedmanjr I do agree with the money part but I don't think we can keep abortion in the loop for this because the baby is literally part of the woman's body until it's born, and typically I'd say the woman should be allowed to dictate her own body, but it should be discussed with both parents before an abortion is done for simple closure, a chance to negotiate, etc I've heard of women dying because they didn't get an abortion because their husband wanted to keep the baby
@@gaylittlegoblin I agree that it is the woman's body and it is her choice. The issue arises where once the baby is out of her body it becomes the man's responsibility whether he likes it or not. The father has zero say in the matter. There are instances where the father wants the child and begs the mother to keep the child but she aborts anyway, since it's her right. There are instances where the father absolutely does not want to her a child but she keeps the child, because it is her right, but as soon as the child that the father did not want is born she takes him to court for child support. That is absolutely not fair and the cards are stacked against fathers. Add in the fact that paternity test are not done by default, and if a man wants one done he has to pay for it, and often has to go through hoops for it if the mother resist, and he's sometimes painted as a deadbeat if he request one.
In the first story, I don't know what the woman was expecting. You reap what you sow. She's gullible enough to be talked into cheating, i don't think it's good idea to stay with such person
Yea, she's an adult. What the heck was she doing in that kind of place anyway? What did she expect to get after going to escorts/stippers, a blessing ?
@@ladylilyI know I would have never have allowed anyone to pressure me to cheat and if someone tried to do that I would have ended the friendship with them. That’s not a friend if they want you to hurt your relationship or your family. So no pressure she just wanted to do it and saw this as an opportunity to do it.
Exactly. I’ve been to parties with strippers. They may try at first to talk you into participating but once you give a firm no and mean it they let it go. She’s lying and trying to place blame on anybody but herself.
The fact that OP, in the second one, even said their baby could take her maiden name, but not the Ex's. Shows that he was willing to not use his, but who would want to use your wife's deceased husband's surname for a baby from their remarriage?
She said they all started cheating right away and that only after a few days while getting a massage she gave in… as if. They all went there and started immediately because they never thought it would get back to them. I would’ve found every friend online and messaged their partners.
@@mikemorency2115 Yeah I would have found out who attended the wedding and on on Facebook to find their partners and told all of them. This is next level cheating they planned in advance to cheat on their partners that whole group of women is gross.
EXACTLY! I have broken ties in the past with friends who even insinuated such a thing. If you care for your family, you need to put your foot on the ground , say no and leave the premises.
First story: "Cheating isn't a mistake, It's a series of choices that you could of say no" Second story: " she's still stuck in the past, she also manipulated you with a self termination threat, nah fuck her and leave; you're nothing but a wallet to her"
Second story: Her behavior is appalling. Why did she even start a relationship with him if he's not going to be given the respect the relationship requires. His blood daughter being named after his wife's ex? That would dig at him for the rest of his life and will put a rift between the two. How could she try to do that to him unless she really didn't care or think it through? This man has been compromising more than she deserves, but she is taking miles after the inches.
She wanted a child, that's all. She just chose the worst route instead of a surrogate, or something. Instead, she chose to start a "relationship" in order to get a child that she thought she could do whatever with.
@@C.G.Gastershe discovered her old husband's body that's why she wants to create a family to redeem herself, and she also wanted to k*ll the daughte coz she had blue eyes like OP's mom and that it ruined eashtetoc of her "perfect family" coz neither her nor old husband had blue eyes, she also admitted to wanting to gouge out the baby's eyes to her friend
The worst part his when her talk about the baby she always said "mine" like "my baby" instead of "our baby" she did get pregnant out of nowhere, so she never care about OP, he have all the right to keep the baby, she will not be a good mother for this baby and will also change her name, if she got her.
@@Hanzo1 The kid wasn't the problem he and her son were fine, the problem here was the wife, also if you never see someone dating a single mother end well, maybe you around the wrong, because I saw the opposite, isn't always but I see a couple of them that end in marriage.
In the first story, she still trickle truth thing she knew what was waiting at that wedding that they had to wear her down was the story that she practiced. This isn’t even the first time she cheated.
7:35 She's projecting so hard because her being "peer pressured into cheating" is absolute bullcrap. A stripper saying "can't stop (whatever they're doing) now" after the customer told them no is not a thing.
Honestly, I kind of hate how the wife in story 1 acted without accountability the entire time. She even tried to put a nice little bow on her being caught as, "I could have lied, or slept with you knowing I might have an STD," which is like expecting a cookie for expecting the bare minimum between consenting adults. The worst part is she framed him divorcing her as him "running away from the problem" and yet had to be coerced into admitting openly she'd cheated on her husband. She genuinely thought she could love bomb him and ply him with sex until he forgave him, and she could go on being married with zero lasting consequences for what she did. If she'd really been accountable she'd have confessed first and foremost, and she'd not have tried to blame the escort for what she chose to do since honestly I don't buy the, "I didn't have a choice" claim. An escort of either sex doesn't care what the Jane or John want, they just care "how much." If you turn them down even though they were previously paid than they're already paid and it's nonrefundable. Plus, she basically said, "welp, in for a penny, in for a pound," and went hog wild from there. These are the actions of someone who thinks feelings of guilt are the same thing as accountability when they are decidedly not.
the nerve of the wife telling him to do anything rash and think about their son, like shut the fuck up. and to those thinking of blaming the guy for "ruining" the family, its like this never started when the wife cheated first. she and her female friends who are probably single and wanting to ruin what she has.
The last one is just heart breaking, clearly something is wrong mentally with her and she isnt over her dead husband. Unfortunately I would agree with reddit and say that divorce is probably the best move😢
Added info, she actually threatened to kill the baby and cut out her eyes when she was taken by police. The eyes part was after she was taken away, and she texted that to a friend. STBXW found her Ex dead after three days because they had separated at the time, and has obviously not dealt with the trauma properly. Probably why the rest of the family wants to support her.
@@Olimar92 what you call support I call being complicit. They weren't acting reasonable and his feelings on the matter was the furthest thing from consideration. Even when her ex's parents were involved, when I believe that they should not have been, should have said that although it's a nice gesture that the father had a say in this matter and she should accept it. Instead they all fed into the delusion.
I won't argue that it's unhealthy, her attachment to her ex, but I can't condone the OP gaslighting her and having her institutionalised so he could get his way over the name. It's absolutely disgusting that people support his actions. Especially since she'd just given birth.
@@sweeety969 I understand your point, but as they said the name had a much deeper meaning behind it and at that point it isn't about the name anymore. Plus it won't be fair to the child later on if he learns all that happened because of that name. to me it would be better just to pick an unrelated name.
@@sweeety969 What are you talking about, If you knew the full story , she had threatened to khs and the baby and also assaulted a police officer, she also expressed her desire to cut off the baby's eyes because they looked like her father. She should be institutionalised for life
honestly good for OP in the second story. she doesnt love him. she wanted him as a caretaker for her fantasy family with her dead ex and had no issue using him toward that end. i wouldnt feel ashamed at all about what he did. id honestly look at it as saving my daughter from that kind of crazy
Indeed. It was going sure way to divorce territory, where she would screw him over. He played his card right and screw her over instead. Moreover, the story lacks context that was revealed later. That woman is unhinged. She fought police and locked herself in a room with baby. Also, threatened to kill her baby and cut her eyes out.
He gaslit and institutionalised his ex after she gave birth so he could get his way over the name. Not only is that morally reprehensible it's also extremely dangerous, and the misogyny in the comments really shows when guys like this get support for this kind of abuse.
the second story... wtf- like I get it for the son that actually is the exes... but not the daughter who is someone elses child- the wife really needs some therapy to realize that she can't push down her exes death onto others who have nothing related to him like her new child.... like I will never understand that thought process... also the first story.... the issue is more that the wife acted so rude to to OP... and then acted so sorry when she was caught... also it does not matter wether you were pressured or not... you made the decision anyways and you did it more than once- nah... she just sounded like every cheater ever....
Even her own parents were appaled with this. And even if they ask for the kid ... the mother isn't even mentally stable for keep her.
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Gotta love her "You should not make an impulsive decision" remark. What not make an impulsive decision like CHEATING ON YOUR HUSBAND WITH A BUNCH OF ESCORTS?
The second story was insane. Like what man wouldn't want their children to have the same last name as them? The wife had major issues that Op should have recognized from the jump.
@@logodsawshe's obsessed with the ex and wants to build a family with "ex" to redeem herself coz she discovered her ex's body, even wanted to k*ll the daughter coz she had blue eyes like OP's mom coz it ruined aesthetic of her perfect family
would be funny to see a story about two partners who were each given reasons to believe the other was cheating, so they both began investigating eachother subtly, but they couldn't find proof that the other was cheating so they both remain skeptical of eachother.
Names can be unifying or devisive. My late dad was supposed to be named B A, but there was a childless rich uncle who wanted him named C F A. My father was born premature due to a car accident that nearly killed his mother. The rich uncle filled in the birth certificate details and supposedly made a 'mistake' and put his name - C F A, instead of B A. He put my dad's name where his details were supposed to go. So my dad spent the rest if his life as C F A officially, instead of B A, but everyone called him B. This broke the families apart. There was already tension because my Scottish Grandmother's home tongue was English, and the family she married into was Afrikaans, but of Scottish origin. The Afrikaans side of the family were still fighting the Anglo-Boer War in their heads.
The second story is crazy. It's one thing to want to choose your own name or even the wife's maiden name. But wanting to change it to her exes is weird on so many levels. It's obvious she's just using him to complete the family she wanted with her dead ex. Especially when she's even trying to give the daughter his first name or a name he wanted.
Way too far bro. OP2 said the suicide was because of trauma caused by being in the armed forces. PTSD is a bitch. She wasn’t the cause of it and blaming her for it just because she was around is wrong. However I side with OP2 on the situation 100%.
Second story - the ex made it clear that she was with OP because it offered stability, not out of any sense of love. She doesn't love him, and just wants the paychecks to keep her children in good condition. By demanding that OPs child have her ex's name, she's flat out stating that.
The first story: Im more concerned about the bribe doing all that stuff than anything else. What horrible things. Also male escorts will always stop if you say no. She didn't say no. Also the fact she brough up the STD test was insane. You know how to avoid a STD? By not cheating
Story 2 : I am so glad that OP got her committed for a second and named his beautiful daughter on his own. That lady was acting disgustingly, her parents & family are equally so. You’d have to be a nut to think that what she was doing was acceptable
Wtf is wrong with OPs inlaws in story 2???? Not taking your husband’s surname when married is a red flag already, but to demand your baby not take their father’s surname is just insane… I can get negotiating on first and middle but surnames are non negotiable. It’s literally your family name… that baby girl isn’t part of her mom’s ex’s family, she is part of her dad’s family. Period end of story.
It's not her surname so why should her baby have a different surname than her? Why should she have to compromise? Because he's a man? Just say you're a misogynist lmao.
If her friends phone you and say why is anything so important in the year 2023. GET THE FUCK OUT! You already know how this will end. Theyll use the same line when she ends up cheating on you too.
Cheating is a choice and OP's wife decided to cheat. Her taking a STD test out of love and for his safety is bullcrap. That test could have been avoided if the wife hadn't cheated.
She tought because he loved her so much, he would've forgiven her and reconcile after cheating and exposing him to a potential sti or std. Glad the op has self respect and knew it was over the moment she cheated, and the gall of this woman to portray herself as a victim is so pathetic. Story 2 ahhh the classic tale of an alpha widow settling for a man she doesnt love, thank god he recognized this and is divorcing her he is putting himself and the daughter first. lets hope he mantains this attitude when she comes crawling back to him, because she will
Story 2: if you are still not over the death of your first husband, don't marry again. Deal with your grief first and then start dating. Having a child under such circumstances is about the worst you can do, as seen here. It is absolutely unfair to expect OP to not just raise another mans child, but to have his own child bear that mans name. And to those friends saying "why is it so important in 2023 to have the babies surname be someones" should ask themselves: if they deem it unimportant, then why are they trying to convince him to let his wife do what she wants? Some women think they get a hallpass for everything because they were carrying that child, completely oblivious to the fact that the father is a parent as well.
Story 2 - That was a sad read just all the way around, who won here? The mother unfortunately is in desperate need of therapy as she clearly has never moved on enough from her previous marriage to separate aspects of it. I don't even mean getting completely over it because hell a passing is hard and that can be a lifetime of grief but she is literally using the new guy as a tool to propagate the dream of her ex. Her son lost a with what little information we do have, good father figure as he did recognize him as dad, not step dad according to OP. She's back to being a single parent, and for what? Unfortunately these issues are often deep rooted and I seriously doubt she'll iron them out unless she has to, I really hope someone warns OP to consider her a flight risk if she ever gets the child un-supervised. The fact she's already tried multiple times proves that if they get the child she will disappear with both of them to another location to attempt to finalize this fantasy. What is even sadder is that if the mother doesn't get her way, that daughter is likely in for a lifetime of disappointment. Either rejection by the mother, or countless attempts to call her by the original desired name if not gaslighting that the deceased ex is her actual father. I hope I'm just reading too much into this with my sleep deprived mind and the cynicism of spending too much time on these stories, though and it's not at all likely to end up in these areas, but I somehow doubt it.
No, you're not reading to much. I seen this and she is delulu with her idea of her late ex. She clearly doesn't see herself as both manipulator (ofc) and with mental problems due the departure of her late ex, and her idea make her so entitled she doesn't see how this hurt both her son and her daughter too.
@@Raisen_ch Honestly the best move for both of them is to remove most if not all contact with the daughter if possible. A kind of "Don't feed into the delusions" and even if she does get help, always keep her under supervision to prevent a relapse when the daughter is around. As for the guy however, to quote a famous movie quote for him "RUN B----, RUUUUUUNNNNNNNN"
@@noobyman333 Totally agree with you there. This reminds of the story of a guy who has a similar situation with his gf and later ex, who she did the same because of her late husband called Miles. To the point she want even the OP to change his name to Miles. The worst part is, she literally trash his place to and spread false rumors about the OP because he didn't abide to her demands.
@@Raisen_ch Dang, both stories from my studies would seem like both individuals just never fully accepted reality. Much like say a break up you can accept it outwardly but inwardly you've yet to make peace with it. These two stories sound like these women were trying to artificially create reminders, and even if it was unhealthy it creates this half bliss that helps soften the inner reality that things are forever different. The problem here is that on some level they do know that it's different people, and it is likely to ultimately create a massive depressive relapse where self harm is a real risk, or a psychotic breakdown rather than true acceptance of reality. I really hope that the story you told ended up well for everyone in the end in their own way :(
@@Raisen_chno in the most recent update she was openly hostile with the daughter and even tried to k*ll her coz the duaghter had blue eyes like the OP's mom and cps was involved, she aint gettkng custody of the daughter
Story 2: another reason why men should avoid single mothers or women who were previously married. Not the ladies fault but, regardless, there are better options out there.
She only told the truth because she got caught. If he would not have found the test she would have never said a word. He should have talked to every other spouse of every other woman involved.
Story 2: Poor bastard got suckered into this womans sick fantasy. Never let any of them alone with your daughter. You and your family are the only sane ones she has in her life.
There is no excuse for cheating. Just talk to your significant other. Effing someone at a bachelor party is unforgivable. Those aren’t friends who push you to cheat on your spouse. I believe he is not at fault. Self respect isn’t a crime. She’s the one that effed up.
There is just so much wrong in the second story, it’s an everyone is the AH situation, baby names are a two yes’s one no situation, neither parent had any right to force their name onto the baby, and OP’s wife was just downright rude saying OP’s name was ugly, like there is so much wrong with that entire family. I just really hope the kid turns out okay.
Wife in story 1 seems like the least disgusting cheater ive ever heard in any story. Didnt contest divorce, never lied, intentionally made sure not to sleep with op till she knew she was clean and std free, and even shamed herself in front of her own parents and her in-laws in an attempt to reconcile. I totally understand op and his desire for divorce, but tbh this chick sounds like shes one of the least shitty cheaters ive ever heard of. While i would have absolutely broken the divorce, i cant really see any valid reason for him having her shame herself like that to both her parents and his aside from petty revenge. In the long run, that satisfaction wont mean anything to him and it will only serve as a lingering scar on the mother of his child. Had he just served her papere and amicably divorced her, the coparent dynamic between the two of them could gave been amicable and less traumatic for their child. Not saying she didnt deserve it, but at the end of the day she is the mother of his child and while he can cut her out of his life she will always be a part of his sons life. This unnecessarily damaged his son by extension and it wont be worth it at all long term.
@mikeh3240 I'm glad I'm not as clearly damaged as you seem to be. I don't know who scarred you, but it's unbecoming to assume the worst in someone by default just because of their gender. This chick was a cheater, but as I said before she's like the most honest and forthright cheater I've ever even heard of. This dude got lucky that even though she's a cheater and a pos, she chose to be forthcoming instead of dragging this on or God forbid just not even telling him. And instead of being grateful that his problems are easier than 99% of people in his position, he went out of his way to retaliate and shame her. I don't even care that he did it for himself, the only part that rubs me the wrong way is that they have a child together. That kid is going to be apart of both of their lives, and he will never escape that fact. He dug a hole he will be stuck in for the rest of his life, because she will never forget this. And by extension neither will his kid.
@@jackwaters7775 Bruh, not about being “damaged”, who’s assuming now? lol it’s basic logic. She’s a cheater.. never even mentioned how it’s related to her gender, except for he should paternity test because of the basics of dimorphism in our species and him happening to be male. It would be idiotic not to, she’s a proven cheater with this “story”. So, in other words.. chill out.
it was more than one mistake, she threw herself headfirst onto other men and then has the audacity to say that she redeemed herself somehow for getting an std test?
That second story was brutal. I’ve already decided my future kids names. My wife is happy. My surname is held by some of her family members so she’s actually even more happy that it kind of honours her family in a way too.
I have too with my gf. We decide that if is a boy i will decide the name but if is a girl she will do it, since that make a lot of sense too and we were happy since we had good taste on name and names who make sense too (even if my gf loves Vocaloid to much, to the point she is working to the parent company who manage events for Vocaloid in Japan). BUT i won't be far to much since I'm an illustrator and character designer. SO, for me there is a lot of not cringe options i can choose if is a boy. HECK! it wasn't my parent who decide the name of my sisters ... i did it. I was just named after my deceased Great Grandfather (who i never meet because he died in 1984, 4 years before i born) and my uncle too (my dad's older brother). Also us 3 has both of my dad and mom's surnames together.
Story 2 is why I would strongly hesitate to enter a relationship with a widow. The odds are far more likely that they have definitely not moved on than they would be with someone that's only divorced. Not that it in any way excuses her or her family's behavior, but I feel like that's something OP should have made absolutely sure of before stepping into her life- by making sure there was actually room for him in it.
What he did though was unforgivable. He couldn't convince her to pick whatever names he wanted so he tried to peer pressure her, then when that didn't work he literally had her institutionalised and gaslit and withheld the baby from her just so he could get his way over the name?! It's disgusting.
That last story, I can actually relate. Im 32 and I just found out last year that my dad's last name was actually the last name of one of my grandmother's husbands as a way to honor him because he was killed. Definitely brings up a lot of "what if "and "why" questions, and considering my grandfather was good enough for my parents to introduce us to when he was alive I wouldnt have minded carrying his name. I dont see the point in using living people as a reminder of people they've never met, especially if there's no familial ties.
These husbands need to keep their balls when they get married. If she's positive for a STD, she cheated. There is no reason that justifies it at all. She is a piece of crap and should have been treated as such. There's a reason that trips like these should never happen in a marriage. It gives them too many opportunities to make a mistake. Don't get me wrong. Neither should ever go on a trip like this. It's too easy to cheat when the other isn't around for a week. Having single friends lead to fatal errors in a marriage. Not all of them of course but she knew what type of friends she really had. Her friends had no respect for her and she had no respect for her husband. As soon as the child was old enough they should be told the truth if he ask.
This is so right. People who are married don't just stop finding other people attractive or wanting to have sex with other people you have to make a conscious decision not to put yourself in situations where you have the opportunity to cheat. If you're married and don't get that it's just a matter of time before something happens.
Story 1: Men are required to do and bring so damn much to the table…. And the only thing we require is loyalty. So if they can’t even do that, they are effectively bringing nothing to the table besides heartbreak, trauma and betrayal. Story 2: A prime example as to why you should never marry a woman who has kids, or has been alpha widowed, as she will never love you, no matter what she says. Best bet as a man is to find a younger woman with less baggage and trauma from past relationships. If you can’t do that, then just stay single.
Most frustrating thing about the first story is that right up until she just gave up and kept doing it, she could have claimed she'd been raped since the escort made her undress and she was bullied into it.
Why do they only start crying once they've been caught? She's really not sad about betraying this man, rather she's upset because her life will change.
first story she still cheated doesn't matter as for second story red flags galore with this one that she was stuck on the EX i wouldn't have had a relationship or a baby with her
I would be so mad at my friends pressuring me like that. She shouldn't have given in. "You haven't been with another man in 16 years" "yeah and this man wh*re is not worth losing 16 years of my life!" I give that bride and groom a year.
Yeah a 37yr old giving into peer pressure is just a doormat, they were all cheating and wanted her to cheat too so she wouldn't have anything on them. What a bunch of Hoes.
Why in the hell is he thinking he would be considered egotistical and a chauvinist for divorcing a cheating woman? Anyone who tries to label him as such is a moron.
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People defending the woman in the first story really need to rethink their choices. It doesn't matter why it happened, she made the choice to cheat. Regardless of whether she was encouraged to do it or not, she's still the one who went through with it. She betrayed her husband, end of story. When you marry, you make a vow to only be with your partner so you shouldn't put yourself in situations which lead to temptation. You shouldn't entertain other people's ideas of cheating.
This!
I can't stand when people refer to cheating as a mistake. It is an active decision to betray the trust of your partner. If OP's ex needs to be mad at anything she needs to be mad at herself for being so weak that some peer pressure from her trash friends put on her.
Im appalled at people defending the woman. Near the end she basically mentions he should be grateful that she took an STD test and did not have sex with him, protected him from her STD when she could just ignore it, not take the STD test and left her husband in the dark about her infidelity. After that, she just uncaringly sign the divorce wanting to get over him. Thats her showing her true colors, her narcissistic tendencies, her uncaring personality and lack of love & concern for her husband. That speaks volumes about her character.
She could have left at any time, but instead she surrounded herself with "friends" that ignored her values and encouraged her to do this
@@FridgedOtter It's still classed as a mistake. "An act or judgement that is misguided or wrong." That's the official definition, you might be getting the term mixed up with accident. It's an unforgivable act and I'm not defending it.
OP in Story 2 is a placeholder. Stbx only wants her dead ex. OP was just there to expand her “family” with her ex.
Emphasis on HER FAMILY, not their but her as she said it was HER daughter and as a female myself I can’t imagine giving one of my future children a name that is from my ex or that my husband wouldn’t agree with. She needs help and therapy to get over her ex which died over 6 years ago
@@Ibi._. Yeah, the fact that stbx was held longer than the mandatory 72 hours, _and_ CPS is in OP’s corner, tells me everything.
She probably married him for the money to support the son and get a daughter
So OP revealed what happened when his stbx got arrested and _holy shit._
When the police arrived stbx completely lost it. She threw stuff and physically assaulted one of the police officers. Before they could detain her stbx locked herself in the bedroom with the baby, screaming that she was going to kill the baby and that she actually HATED her daughter because the baby had OP’s mother’s blue eyes. When the police finally got into the room and put her in cuffs, _then_ she acted like everything was said in the heat of anger.
Oh, and the reason stbx was held longer than the mandatory 72 hours was that she admitted in a text message to a friend that she wanted to cut her daughter’s eyes out. The friend took the text to the police, which I imagine stbx did not expect her to do. All of this is most likely what contributed to the police and CPS throwing their support behind OP.
@Mia-dt3gl that's insane man, disgusting
Story 1: He should have told her he would reconsider divorce if she exposed everyone who was at the party for cheating on their SO, including the bride. Then, after everyone had been properly named and shamed, go through with the divorce.
One thing it seems people defending her forgot: She didn't just cheat on him once. She admitted that after she did it the first time, she figured "what the hell" and did it the entire time on the trip. SHE made that choice. No one forced her. She wasn't a hostage. Then, she only cared about being humiliated, not about breaking her husband's heart and taking away a normal life from their son. If you can defend her, you are no better.
Yeah, if it was only that one time, it might have been salvageable, but deciding to just go on in doomed it.
once is more than enough to kick your wife out of the house. why did he leave the house to her idont get.
@@samiulhuda4001 Agreed!
Exactly 💯
Yh she cheated for a whole week,
Or 6days, if she was telling the truth about skipping the first day
"I'm sorry, but you should be grateful I didn't do worse."
The AUDACITY of a cheater to say something like that. Plus I think its clear she isn't sorry, she's sorry she got caught.
I was paraphrasing btw
She also said she came clean but she only did it when she was caught,before she was perfectly fine with hiding it and making her husband feel awful by pushing him away because of her horrible choices
Ah yes I just got ran through by multiple prostitutes and was afraid I got STD but I only checked because I was worried about my husbands wellbeing.
I totally didn't worry about my own health nor getting exposed if I did indeed get sick. That is why I was doing the entire thing in secret because I was going to come clean with everything and not because I was checking if I could easily get away with it I swear.
The husband should tell her she should be grateful he didn't beat her up and as a result he saved her health or even life in the process of his noble sacrifice and becoming a vile person or going to jail for doing so didn't factor in his decision it was all out of his love for her.
Honestly, i would have gone after the wifes friends too, warn the husband she might cheat on him. Tell him the whole story above what happened and what the friend said. She was the one that caused the whole thing, she pressured the wife into it.
If she enjoyed their services she already cheated tho.
@@nyankatte that's right!! I would have stayed with the wife actually, just to get more info and then guilt the wife into telling the friends husband, then double divorce at the same time.
Never understood why people invite escorts to bachelor/ bachelorette parties.
right? just have it in the brothel.@@dukecarraway1762
@@dukecarraway1762Short answer, to cheat.
Story 2: For all those saying the wife is in love with her ex and not obsessed, her actions the text book definition of obsession highlighted by her threat to un alive herself but its an obsession or more of a delusion that is shared by the rest of her and her ex’s family. This being 2023 has got a lot to do with this, in 1983 this wouldn’t have been a discussion, but as we are in 2023 it shows by some of the responses in this video that as far as lot of people are concerned the biological father has no right as regard the child because the mother carried it for 9 months. In that case if the father has no rights why should he be forced to financially support the child?
And there it is. See if y'all can kill it, why can't I at least abandon it. And I'm not saying to abandon your kid or that you can't terminate it, I'm just saying that it's a clear double standard. Hell, a male child can be raped, and would still in some states have to pay child support, which crosses the issue of male victims not being taken seriously with it. Just things need changing, so if you can vote, vote for someone who you think will make this change. Things don't change when you keep people in office who haven't made that change in a long time.
Very good question. No rights but all the responsibility. Also no say in if a pregnancy is carried to term or not. If the man wants to keep the child but the woman doesn't he has no say. If he doesn't want to keep the child but she does he still has to pay.
If this is true story, Im just confused and worried that alot of people supported the obsession and dillusion of the wife/STBXW. Are people really now are not thinking logically and more "emotionally" dumb!!! Are these common in the west?
@@GraysonJStedmanjr I do agree with the money part but I don't think we can keep abortion in the loop for this because the baby is literally part of the woman's body until it's born, and typically I'd say the woman should be allowed to dictate her own body, but it should be discussed with both parents before an abortion is done for simple closure, a chance to negotiate, etc
I've heard of women dying because they didn't get an abortion because their husband wanted to keep the baby
@@gaylittlegoblin I agree that it is the woman's body and it is her choice. The issue arises where once the baby is out of her body it becomes the man's responsibility whether he likes it or not.
The father has zero say in the matter. There are instances where the father wants the child and begs the mother to keep the child but she aborts anyway, since it's her right.
There are instances where the father absolutely does not want to her a child but she keeps the child, because it is her right, but as soon as the child that the father did not want is born she takes him to court for child support.
That is absolutely not fair and the cards are stacked against fathers.
Add in the fact that paternity test are not done by default, and if a man wants one done he has to pay for it, and often has to go through hoops for it if the mother resist, and he's sometimes painted as a deadbeat if he request one.
In the first story, I don't know what the woman was expecting. You reap what you sow. She's gullible enough to be talked into cheating, i don't think it's good idea to stay with such person
No one has to be "talked into" cheating. She wanted validation for doing what she already wanted to do, and her friends gave it to her.
Yea, she's an adult. What the heck was she doing in that kind of place anyway?
What did she expect to get after going to escorts/stippers, a blessing ?
@@HappyGolucky-n7xA baptism, surely.
@@ladylilyI know I would have never have allowed anyone to pressure me to cheat and if someone tried to do that I would have ended the friendship with them. That’s not a friend if they want you to hurt your relationship or your family. So no pressure she just wanted to do it and saw this as an opportunity to do it.
@@Crisfer05 Very true!
Yeah she's lying about the escorts thing. No chance in hell they'd say you cant stop.
Ikr. If an escort said that a woman could file for rape and that's bad for business
As a former stripper yeah op is 🧢. If a client doesn't want you to go any further that's when you stop and just move on to the next woman.
The wife is lying, not op
@@sierrajohnson717 read the comments people are saying "she"
Exactly. I’ve been to parties with strippers. They may try at first to talk you into participating but once you give a firm no and mean it they let it go. She’s lying and trying to place blame on anybody but herself.
The fact that OP, in the second one, even said their baby could take her maiden name, but not the Ex's. Shows that he was willing to not use his, but who would want to use your wife's deceased husband's surname for a baby from their remarriage?
Dove never restrained herself. She is trying to throw her friends under the bus so she comes away clean.
Yeah, nothing but the std will reach her husband.
She said they all started cheating right away and that only after a few days while getting a massage she gave in… as if. They all went there and started immediately because they never thought it would get back to them. I would’ve found every friend online and messaged their partners.
@@mikemorency2115 Yeah I would have found out who attended the wedding and on on Facebook to find their partners and told all of them. This is next level cheating they planned in advance to cheat on their partners that whole group of women is gross.
Story 1: Should have told the groom too about his bride and all the partners of the wide's friends
First Lady acting like getting in her car and going home wasn’t an option 🙃
EXACTLY!
I have broken ties in the past with friends who even insinuated such a thing.
If you care for your family, you need to put your foot on the ground , say no and leave the premises.
First story: "Cheating isn't a mistake, It's a series of choices that you could of say no"
Second story: " she's still stuck in the past, she also manipulated you with a self termination threat, nah fuck her and leave; you're nothing but a wallet to her"
Second story: Her behavior is appalling. Why did she even start a relationship with him if he's not going to be given the respect the relationship requires. His blood daughter being named after his wife's ex? That would dig at him for the rest of his life and will put a rift between the two. How could she try to do that to him unless she really didn't care or think it through? This man has been compromising more than she deserves, but she is taking miles after the inches.
She wanted a child, that's all. She just chose the worst route instead of a surrogate, or something. Instead, she chose to start a "relationship" in order to get a child that she thought she could do whatever with.
@@C.G.Gastershe discovered her old husband's body that's why she wants to create a family to redeem herself, and she also wanted to k*ll the daughte coz she had blue eyes like OP's mom and that it ruined eashtetoc of her "perfect family" coz neither her nor old husband had blue eyes, she also admitted to wanting to gouge out the baby's eyes to her friend
The worst part his when her talk about the baby she always said "mine" like "my baby" instead of "our baby" she did get pregnant out of nowhere, so she never care about OP, he have all the right to keep the baby, she will not be a good mother for this baby and will also change her name, if she got her.
I have never heard or story of of a man dating a single mother that ended well, nor have I seen that happen in real life
@@Hanzo1 The kid wasn't the problem he and her son were fine, the problem here was the wife, also if you never see someone dating a single mother end well, maybe you around the wrong, because I saw the opposite, isn't always but I see a couple of them that end in marriage.
In the first story, she still trickle truth thing she knew what was waiting at that wedding that they had to wear her down was the story that she practiced. This isn’t even the first time she cheated.
"She loved me and could do anything for me"
Except not cheat, apparently.
7:35 She's projecting so hard because her being "peer pressured into cheating" is absolute bullcrap.
A stripper saying "can't stop (whatever they're doing) now" after the customer told them no is not a thing.
Yes, as someone pointed out, grape allegations and bad for business, so they don't do that
@@OWnIshiiTrolling Exactly. That, and most people aren't stupid enough to commit crimes that they probably won't get away with.
Wife in Story 2 had mental issues. She loved the ex so much that his death broke her to the point she can't get him out of her thoughts
Honestly, I kind of hate how the wife in story 1 acted without accountability the entire time. She even tried to put a nice little bow on her being caught as, "I could have lied, or slept with you knowing I might have an STD," which is like expecting a cookie for expecting the bare minimum between consenting adults. The worst part is she framed him divorcing her as him "running away from the problem" and yet had to be coerced into admitting openly she'd cheated on her husband. She genuinely thought she could love bomb him and ply him with sex until he forgave him, and she could go on being married with zero lasting consequences for what she did.
If she'd really been accountable she'd have confessed first and foremost, and she'd not have tried to blame the escort for what she chose to do since honestly I don't buy the, "I didn't have a choice" claim. An escort of either sex doesn't care what the Jane or John want, they just care "how much." If you turn them down even though they were previously paid than they're already paid and it's nonrefundable. Plus, she basically said, "welp, in for a penny, in for a pound," and went hog wild from there. These are the actions of someone who thinks feelings of guilt are the same thing as accountability when they are decidedly not.
its sad this man thinks he would be considered chauvinistic just for leaving a cheater. people really be throwin them words around
The only people who defend cheaters are cheaters or cheated in the past or are those sad saps with no self respect who took back a cheater.
the nerve of the wife telling him to do anything rash and think about their son, like shut the fuck up. and to those thinking of blaming the guy for "ruining" the family, its like this never started when the wife cheated first. she and her female friends who are probably single and wanting to ruin what she has.
He should have played "When Doves Cry" when he dropped the divorce papers.
The last one is just heart breaking, clearly something is wrong mentally with her and she isnt over her dead husband. Unfortunately I would agree with reddit and say that divorce is probably the best move😢
Added info, she actually threatened to kill the baby and cut out her eyes when she was taken by police. The eyes part was after she was taken away, and she texted that to a friend.
STBXW found her Ex dead after three days because they had separated at the time, and has obviously not dealt with the trauma properly. Probably why the rest of the family wants to support her.
@@Olimar92 what you call support I call being complicit. They weren't acting reasonable and his feelings on the matter was the furthest thing from consideration. Even when her ex's parents were involved, when I believe that they should not have been, should have said that although it's a nice gesture that the father had a say in this matter and she should accept it. Instead they all fed into the delusion.
I won't argue that it's unhealthy, her attachment to her ex, but I can't condone the OP gaslighting her and having her institutionalised so he could get his way over the name. It's absolutely disgusting that people support his actions. Especially since she'd just given birth.
@@sweeety969 I understand your point, but as they said the name had a much deeper meaning behind it and at that point it isn't about the name anymore. Plus it won't be fair to the child later on if he learns all that happened because of that name. to me it would be better just to pick an unrelated name.
@@sweeety969 What are you talking about, If you knew the full story , she had threatened to khs and the baby and also assaulted a police officer, she also expressed her desire to cut off the baby's eyes because they looked like her father. She should be institutionalised for life
honestly good for OP in the second story. she doesnt love him. she wanted him as a caretaker for her fantasy family with her dead ex and had no issue using him toward that end. i wouldnt feel ashamed at all about what he did. id honestly look at it as saving my daughter from that kind of crazy
Indeed. It was going sure way to divorce territory, where she would screw him over. He played his card right and screw her over instead.
Moreover, the story lacks context that was revealed later. That woman is unhinged. She fought police and locked herself in a room with baby. Also, threatened to kill her baby and cut her eyes out.
He gaslit and institutionalised his ex after she gave birth so he could get his way over the name. Not only is that morally reprehensible it's also extremely dangerous, and the misogyny in the comments really shows when guys like this get support for this kind of abuse.
As they say, cheating is not an accident, it's a choice.
It’s not a choice… It’s a series of choices
@@MrFallenangel2012 you just made it plural. Still it's a choice
the second story... wtf- like I get it for the son that actually is the exes... but not the daughter who is someone elses child- the wife really needs some therapy to realize that she can't push down her exes death onto others who have nothing related to him like her new child.... like I will never understand that thought process... also the first story.... the issue is more that the wife acted so rude to to OP... and then acted so sorry when she was caught... also it does not matter wether you were pressured or not... you made the decision anyways and you did it more than once- nah... she just sounded like every cheater ever....
Even her own parents were appaled with this. And even if they ask for the kid ... the mother isn't even mentally stable for keep her.
Gotta love her "You should not make an impulsive decision" remark.
What not make an impulsive decision like CHEATING ON YOUR HUSBAND WITH A BUNCH OF ESCORTS?
The second story was insane. Like what man wouldn't want their children to have the same last name as them? The wife had major issues that Op should have recognized from the jump.
its not even that. if a man takes his wifes surname thats fine. the problem is that its her exes name
@@logodsawshe's obsessed with the ex and wants to build a family with "ex" to redeem herself coz she discovered her ex's body, even wanted to k*ll the daughter coz she had blue eyes like OP's mom coz it ruined aesthetic of her perfect family
He should have had concerns when she would regularly talk about her dead ex killing himself.
"i gave in" bro i literally droped my phone and clapped my hands in disappointment smh
I was like "what an idiot, he deserved this all maybe."
would be funny to see a story about two partners who were each given reasons to believe the other was cheating, so they both began investigating eachother subtly, but they couldn't find proof that the other was cheating so they both remain skeptical of eachother.
Names can be unifying or devisive. My late dad was supposed to be named B A, but there was a childless rich uncle who wanted him named C F A.
My father was born premature due to a car accident that nearly killed his mother.
The rich uncle filled in the birth certificate details and supposedly made a 'mistake' and put his name - C F A, instead of B A. He put my dad's name where his details were supposed to go.
So my dad spent the rest if his life as C F A officially, instead of B A, but everyone called him B.
This broke the families apart.
There was already tension because my Scottish Grandmother's home tongue was English, and the family she married into was Afrikaans, but of Scottish origin.
The Afrikaans side of the family were still fighting the Anglo-Boer War in their heads.
21:52 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 my man . at that point she ain't your wife she's the wife of a dead man honestly
Bro she was always have been that way. He didn’t see the signs. Look at the way she keeps talking about her dead ex.
16:58 leave that train wreck she can get a third name from her third baby daddy
The second story is crazy. It's one thing to want to choose your own name or even the wife's maiden name. But wanting to change it to her exes is weird on so many levels. It's obvious she's just using him to complete the family she wanted with her dead ex. Especially when she's even trying to give the daughter his first name or a name he wanted.
Story 2: Good for OP. I see why his ex’s husband offed himself
Way too far bro.
OP2 said the suicide was because of trauma caused by being in the armed forces. PTSD is a bitch.
She wasn’t the cause of it and blaming her for it just because she was around is wrong.
However I side with OP2 on the situation 100%.
Second story - the ex made it clear that she was with OP because it offered stability, not out of any sense of love. She doesn't love him, and just wants the paychecks to keep her children in good condition. By demanding that OPs child have her ex's name, she's flat out stating that.
The first story: Im more concerned about the bribe doing all that stuff than anything else. What horrible things. Also male escorts will always stop if you say no. She didn't say no. Also the fact she brough up the STD test was insane. You know how to avoid a STD? By not cheating
Im sorry but why is anyone even siding with wife in 2nd story?? I think its REALLY weird and disrespectful and totally dismisses his role as a father.
I hope the bride's husband was informed of what happened on the Bachelorette trip and divorced his new cheating wife.
Story 2 : I am so glad that OP got her committed for a second and named his beautiful daughter on his own. That lady was acting disgustingly, her parents & family are equally so. You’d have to be a nut to think that what she was doing was acceptable
Wtf is wrong with OPs inlaws in story 2???? Not taking your husband’s surname when married is a red flag already, but to demand your baby not take their father’s surname is just insane… I can get negotiating on first and middle but surnames are non negotiable. It’s literally your family name… that baby girl isn’t part of her mom’s ex’s family, she is part of her dad’s family. Period end of story.
It's not her surname so why should her baby have a different surname than her? Why should she have to compromise? Because he's a man? Just say you're a misogynist lmao.
If her friends phone you and say why is anything so important in the year 2023. GET THE FUCK OUT! You already know how this will end. Theyll use the same line when she ends up cheating on you too.
Let the second story be a warning. If a woman won't take your name, do not marry her.
Unless it's a cultural reason then it's fine
Cheating is a choice and OP's wife decided to cheat. Her taking a STD test out of love and for his safety is bullcrap. That test could have been avoided if the wife hadn't cheated.
The fucking gall to say he shouldn’t make an impulsive decision of divorce after her impulsive decision to cheat on him multiple times is astounding!!
She tought because he loved her so much, he would've forgiven her and reconcile after cheating and exposing him to a potential sti or std. Glad the op has self respect and knew it was over the moment she cheated, and the gall of this woman to portray herself as a victim is so pathetic. Story 2 ahhh the classic tale of an alpha widow settling for a man she doesnt love, thank god he recognized this and is divorcing her he is putting himself and the daughter first. lets hope he mantains this attitude when she comes crawling back to him, because she will
One mistake? No. Cheating is a whole cascade of mistakes. It is never just ONE mistake.
Story 2: if you are still not over the death of your first husband, don't marry again. Deal with your grief first and then start dating. Having a child under such circumstances is about the worst you can do, as seen here. It is absolutely unfair to expect OP to not just raise another mans child, but to have his own child bear that mans name. And to those friends saying "why is it so important in 2023 to have the babies surname be someones" should ask themselves: if they deem it unimportant, then why are they trying to convince him to let his wife do what she wants?
Some women think they get a hallpass for everything because they were carrying that child, completely oblivious to the fact that the father is a parent as well.
Story 2 she's not over her ex. This women needs help!
Story 2 - That was a sad read just all the way around, who won here? The mother unfortunately is in desperate need of therapy as she clearly has never moved on enough from her previous marriage to separate aspects of it. I don't even mean getting completely over it because hell a passing is hard and that can be a lifetime of grief but she is literally using the new guy as a tool to propagate the dream of her ex. Her son lost a with what little information we do have, good father figure as he did recognize him as dad, not step dad according to OP. She's back to being a single parent, and for what?
Unfortunately these issues are often deep rooted and I seriously doubt she'll iron them out unless she has to, I really hope someone warns OP to consider her a flight risk if she ever gets the child un-supervised. The fact she's already tried multiple times proves that if they get the child she will disappear with both of them to another location to attempt to finalize this fantasy.
What is even sadder is that if the mother doesn't get her way, that daughter is likely in for a lifetime of disappointment. Either rejection by the mother, or countless attempts to call her by the original desired name if not gaslighting that the deceased ex is her actual father.
I hope I'm just reading too much into this with my sleep deprived mind and the cynicism of spending too much time on these stories, though and it's not at all likely to end up in these areas, but I somehow doubt it.
No, you're not reading to much. I seen this and she is delulu with her idea of her late ex. She clearly doesn't see herself as both manipulator (ofc) and with mental problems due the departure of her late ex, and her idea make her so entitled she doesn't see how this hurt both her son and her daughter too.
@@Raisen_ch Honestly the best move for both of them is to remove most if not all contact with the daughter if possible. A kind of "Don't feed into the delusions" and even if she does get help, always keep her under supervision to prevent a relapse when the daughter is around. As for the guy however, to quote a famous movie quote for him
"RUN B----, RUUUUUUNNNNNNNN"
@@noobyman333 Totally agree with you there.
This reminds of the story of a guy who has a similar situation with his gf and later ex, who she did the same because of her late husband called Miles. To the point she want even the OP to change his name to Miles.
The worst part is, she literally trash his place to and spread false rumors about the OP because he didn't abide to her demands.
@@Raisen_ch Dang, both stories from my studies would seem like both individuals just never fully accepted reality. Much like say a break up you can accept it outwardly but inwardly you've yet to make peace with it. These two stories sound like these women were trying to artificially create reminders, and even if it was unhealthy it creates this half bliss that helps soften the inner reality that things are forever different.
The problem here is that on some level they do know that it's different people, and it is likely to ultimately create a massive depressive relapse where self harm is a real risk, or a psychotic breakdown rather than true acceptance of reality. I really hope that the story you told ended up well for everyone in the end in their own way :(
@@Raisen_chno in the most recent update she was openly hostile with the daughter and even tried to k*ll her coz the duaghter had blue eyes like the OP's mom and cps was involved, she aint gettkng custody of the daughter
Story 2 op ignored a whole red flag factory 😂😂
Story 2 is wild, there’s not a chance in hell my child is having another mans last name, ever.
Hahahaha, "I'm not a simp" then proceeds to do simp things.
I love it!!! I love it he went and named the kid what he wanted.
Story 2: another reason why men should avoid single mothers or women who were previously married. Not the ladies fault but, regardless, there are better options out there.
She only told the truth because she got caught. If he would not have found the test she would have never said a word. He should have talked to every other spouse of every other woman involved.
second story guy should get a divorce ASAP. He should RUNNNN
Sleeping with her again in the first story was dumb as hell. Where’s your self respect man?
Story two, OP's wife and her family is fucking nuts.
Story 2: Poor bastard got suckered into this womans sick fantasy. Never let any of them alone with your daughter. You and your family are the only sane ones she has in her life.
There is no excuse for cheating. Just talk to your significant other. Effing someone at a bachelor party is unforgivable.
Those aren’t friends who push you to cheat on your spouse.
I believe he is not at fault. Self respect isn’t a crime. She’s the one that effed up.
Suddenly I have the urge to buy Dove soap
I'm glad he said it's for his self respect
There is just so much wrong in the second story, it’s an everyone is the AH situation, baby names are a two yes’s one no situation, neither parent had any right to force their name onto the baby, and OP’s wife was just downright rude saying OP’s name was ugly, like there is so much wrong with that entire family. I just really hope the kid turns out okay.
Well in those 10 years she never gave you any reason to suspect her, that does not mean you should.
She obviously is hiding something.
Bro, ex from the second story probably unalived himself to get away from that weirdo lmao
I guess the thought of keeping your integrity and dignity by getting the first plane home didn't cross her mind. She and her no good friends ain't 💩.
Second story is wild. Naming your children after your spouse's ex is crazy.
Wife in story 1 seems like the least disgusting cheater ive ever heard in any story. Didnt contest divorce, never lied, intentionally made sure not to sleep with op till she knew she was clean and std free, and even shamed herself in front of her own parents and her in-laws in an attempt to reconcile. I totally understand op and his desire for divorce, but tbh this chick sounds like shes one of the least shitty cheaters ive ever heard of. While i would have absolutely broken the divorce, i cant really see any valid reason for him having her shame herself like that to both her parents and his aside from petty revenge. In the long run, that satisfaction wont mean anything to him and it will only serve as a lingering scar on the mother of his child. Had he just served her papere and amicably divorced her, the coparent dynamic between the two of them could gave been amicable and less traumatic for their child. Not saying she didnt deserve it, but at the end of the day she is the mother of his child and while he can cut her out of his life she will always be a part of his sons life. This unnecessarily damaged his son by extension and it wont be worth it at all long term.
Fucking yapping so much
“Mother of his child” wouldn’t be so sure… dude bro’s next step should be paternity verification.
@mikeh3240 I'm glad I'm not as clearly damaged as you seem to be. I don't know who scarred you, but it's unbecoming to assume the worst in someone by default just because of their gender.
This chick was a cheater, but as I said before she's like the most honest and forthright cheater I've ever even heard of. This dude got lucky that even though she's a cheater and a pos, she chose to be forthcoming instead of dragging this on or God forbid just not even telling him.
And instead of being grateful that his problems are easier than 99% of people in his position, he went out of his way to retaliate and shame her.
I don't even care that he did it for himself, the only part that rubs me the wrong way is that they have a child together. That kid is going to be apart of both of their lives, and he will never escape that fact. He dug a hole he will be stuck in for the rest of his life, because she will never forget this. And by extension neither will his kid.
@@jackwaters7775 Bruh, not about being “damaged”, who’s assuming now? lol it’s basic logic. She’s a cheater.. never even mentioned how it’s related to her gender, except for he should paternity test because of the basics of dimorphism in our species and him happening to be male. It would be idiotic not to, she’s a proven cheater with this “story”. So, in other words.. chill out.
First story: finally not a doormat husband
it was more than one mistake, she threw herself headfirst onto other men and then has the audacity to say that she redeemed herself somehow for getting an std test?
Then she told him dont act impulsive. That would have been my first question. With how many men did you sleep?
op in story 1 should tell all the other the people on the other men who were betrayed in that week as well
I love how the AI makes a STD test a "standard" test. Strangely ironic.
story 2 her son has he ex last name because that's his dad why would she give OP daughter her ex last name
That second story was brutal. I’ve already decided my future kids names. My wife is happy. My surname is held by some of her family members so she’s actually even more happy that it kind of honours her family in a way too.
I have too with my gf. We decide that if is a boy i will decide the name but if is a girl she will do it, since that make a lot of sense too and we were happy since we had good taste on name and names who make sense too (even if my gf loves Vocaloid to much, to the point she is working to the parent company who manage events for Vocaloid in Japan). BUT i won't be far to much since I'm an illustrator and character designer. SO, for me there is a lot of not cringe options i can choose if is a boy.
HECK! it wasn't my parent who decide the name of my sisters ... i did it. I was just named after my deceased Great Grandfather (who i never meet because he died in 1984, 4 years before i born) and my uncle too (my dad's older brother). Also us 3 has both of my dad and mom's surnames together.
Big W for the guy in the second story. Holy shit, the fact that her family were feeding into that delusion is crazy.
everyone in story 2 who agrees with the woman in the second story is absolutely crazy
"Fairy tale wedding in Las Vegas" just screams bad news.
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Story 2 is why I would strongly hesitate to enter a relationship with a widow. The odds are far more likely that they have definitely not moved on than they would be with someone that's only divorced. Not that it in any way excuses her or her family's behavior, but I feel like that's something OP should have made absolutely sure of before stepping into her life- by making sure there was actually room for him in it.
What he did though was unforgivable. He couldn't convince her to pick whatever names he wanted so he tried to peer pressure her, then when that didn't work he literally had her institutionalised and gaslit and withheld the baby from her just so he could get his way over the name?! It's disgusting.
That last story, I can actually relate. Im 32 and I just found out last year that my dad's last name was actually the last name of one of my grandmother's husbands as a way to honor him because he was killed. Definitely brings up a lot of "what if "and "why" questions, and considering my grandfather was good enough for my parents to introduce us to when he was alive I wouldnt have minded carrying his name. I dont see the point in using living people as a reminder of people they've never met, especially if there's no familial ties.
Cheating is never a mistake. It is a choice. And the woman in story 1 chose poorly
WELL DONE OP of the 2nd story ... what a horrible human being the wife was ... jeez ...
These husbands need to keep their balls when they get married. If she's positive for a STD, she cheated. There is no reason that justifies it at all. She is a piece of crap and should have been treated as such. There's a reason that trips like these should never happen in a marriage. It gives them too many opportunities to make a mistake. Don't get me wrong. Neither should ever go on a trip like this. It's too easy to cheat when the other isn't around for a week. Having single friends lead to fatal errors in a marriage. Not all of them of course but she knew what type of friends she really had. Her friends had no respect for her and she had no respect for her husband. As soon as the child was old enough they should be told the truth if he ask.
This is so right. People who are married don't just stop finding other people attractive or wanting to have sex with other people you have to make a conscious decision not to put yourself in situations where you have the opportunity to cheat. If you're married and don't get that it's just a matter of time before something happens.
Story 1: Men are required to do and bring so damn much to the table…. And the only thing we require is loyalty. So if they can’t even do that, they are effectively bringing nothing to the table besides heartbreak, trauma and betrayal. Story 2: A prime example as to why you should never marry a woman who has kids, or has been alpha widowed, as she will never love you, no matter what she says. Best bet as a man is to find a younger woman with less baggage and trauma from past relationships. If you can’t do that, then just stay single.
Story 1. I would have seriously considered forgiveness.
Most frustrating thing about the first story is that right up until she just gave up and kept doing it, she could have claimed she'd been raped since the escort made her undress and she was bullied into it.
Yeah but apparently according to other comments from former male strippers. They never act that pushy with clients so she's probably lying
And ruined a man's life by lying. We see what kind of person you are.
eh no one takes those accusations seriously. or atleast should not. you put yourself in that situation and wanna claim you didnt want sex? please.
Why do they only start crying once they've been caught? She's really not sad about betraying this man, rather she's upset because her life will change.
Honestly her story was pretty wild.
first story she still cheated doesn't matter as for second story red flags galore with this one that she was stuck on the EX i wouldn't have had a relationship or a baby with her
I would be so mad at my friends pressuring me like that. She shouldn't have given in. "You haven't been with another man in 16 years" "yeah and this man wh*re is not worth losing 16 years of my life!" I give that bride and groom a year.
Blaming her friends for her temptations..
Ahh yess the classic i got peerpressured by my friends into having sex with a random guy. No accountability.
Yeah a 37yr old giving into peer pressure is just a doormat, they were all cheating and wanted her to cheat too so she wouldn't have anything on them. What a bunch of Hoes.
There is no such thing as “one thing lead to another”. That expression is used by cheaters to escape accountability/guilt
Girl goes to vegas to wedding
Automatic divorce
Her friends seccuded destroying her life, enemies hiding in shape of friends!
Why in the hell is he thinking he would be considered egotistical and a chauvinist for divorcing a cheating woman? Anyone who tries to label him as such is a moron.
Cheating is never a "mistake" its a choice. The woman chose another man. She doesn't deserve being happy at that point.
Ahh the peer pressure blame.
Woman confessed only because she got caught, she belongs to the streets.