Sage/Breville Integrated Grinder Coffee Machines Demystified
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- The growing number of Sage or Breville integrated grinder coffee machines is getting more & more complex to navigate. Barista Express, Express Impress, Barista Pro, Barista Touch, Touch Impress, Oracle, Oracle Touch... how are you supposed to decide which is the right choice for you? Here's how :-).
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Blog Reviews:
Sage Coffee Machines UK: bit.ly/41Rbevj
Breville Coffee Machines US: bit.ly/3HfV05u
Other Links Of Interest:
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Current Gear:
Quick note. I'm including all of this info because when I was starting out, I found it really difficult to figure out what gear to use, so I'm hoping if there's anyone looking to set up for RUclips, this might help. If you need more help just email me, kev at coffeeblog.co.uk - if I don't know the answer I'll ask the professionals.
I'm listing the current setup first that the pros are using, and then my original more budget setup.
The pro stuff (new studio setup, with brickovenmedia.co.uk)
Blackmagic Pocket 4K amzn.to/3EnYAKJ
Samyang 35 mm T1.5 VDSLR II Manual Focus Video Lens amzn.to/3RB4Q4I
VILTROX EF-M2 II Focal Reducer Booster Adapter Auto-Focus 0.71x compatible with Canon EF mount Lens to M43 Cameras amzn.to/3e37Qcp
Glide Gear TMP100 Adjustable iPad/Tablet/Smartphone Teleprompter Beam Splitter Glass amzn.to/3C7hRgt
Promptsmart Pro bit.ly/3CAhXPl (tablet prompter app, includes voice tracking, very good! If you have it more than a couple of metres away from you, just use a lav mic with an extension so it can year you).
Aputure LS COB 300D II LED Continuous Fresnel Light 300D Mark II amzn.to/3SVy4ft
Aputure Accent B7C 7W RGBWW LED Smart Bulbs amzn.to/3RD0ABu
aputure light dome ii amzn.to/3M5XjcY
Sennheiser MKH 60
Sanken Cos 11 Lavalier
If you're interested in any of this gear but you don't want to buy new, check out www.mpb.com/en-uk
My budget setup (prior to working with Brickoven):
Canon M6 Mark ii amzn.to/3zoczes (quick note, knowing what I now know I wish I'd have gone for the pocket 4k, which you can get used from MPB for a few hundred more.
Blue Ember Mic (used mainly for voiceovers): amzn.to/3pT6WR1
RØDE VideoMic Pro: amzn.to/3DV7xHg (note, it's good for the £, but with what I now know thanks to the guys at Brickoven, I'd recommend the RØDE NTG4 amzn.to/3M8nIXy or RØDE NT5.
Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen USB Audio Interface: amzn.to/3e3qwFn
Amaran 100D LED Video Light, 130W 5500K (Key light): amzn.to/3oQYrqY
Aputure Light Dome SE Softbox: amzn.to/3ESdHcJ
Neewer Bi-color 660 LED Video Light and Stand Kit (Fill light): amzn.to/35jUtwp
Neewer Portable 56 inch/142 cm Aluminium Camera Tripods (I have a few of these, very good value) amzn.to/3pPlCke
Cayer BV30L tripod with fluid head amzn.to/3fJdEbr (mega tripod for the money!)
Please note, affiliate links included above.
Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:35 Supermarket coffee beans (not freshly roasted)
02:57 Freshly roasted coffee beans
05:13 Secret (very fake) easter egg
07:27 Recap
08:33 Kev's pointless fact
09:00 Tatty Bye
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For anyone who's mentioned their grind size is changing by itself, here you go: ruclips.net/user/shortsD-jL2wWqQYA
I recently picked up a Express Impress following your recommendations and I love it! Followed your videos to dial it in and it's been making banging drinks ever since. So a big thank you from this very happy person 😁
Excellent, very happy to be of assistance! 😎😎
Just curious, do u use supermarket beans or freshly roasted ones?
I use freshly roasted ones, with the non-pressurised baskets. Works a treat 😊😊
I'm really happy with my Bambino plus, easy work flow, great coffee, fantastic milk and absolutely delicious drinking
Fantastic Matthew, so glad you are enjoying the Bambino Plus :-)
Impressive and informative video, so many Brevilles, that helps immensely. Fun video, Dinosaur’s and all
Thanks 🙂
I think the Barista pro is just a good choice for many people. I don't have one but having used one I love it so much more than my Bambino Plus. The coffee isn't heads above or anything, but the workflow is way, way better.
Yeah the Barista pro is a really nice machine to use. Whenever I speak to coffee professionals, people in the industry who are approximately ten million times more knowledgeable and experienced in coffee than I am, and I ask them what machine they use, expecting them all to say LMLM or Eagle 1 Prima for example, I know a good % of them are going to reply Barista Pro, like you say they're just really good for workflow, great little machine for anyone who has some barista skill or doesn't mind developing some. Ta, Kev.
I picked up the Express Impress recently and it’s good so far. Fully intend to go down the rabbit hole of home barista down the line but at £515 from Costco I couldn’t say no!
What a great deal Chris :-)
That’s what I thought, worlds apart from Nespresso which is what I had before 😂
I think coffee is fit and enjoyed the video
hehe, ta 😎👍
Could you please review the Hibrew H10A? it claims to have features such as a PID, unpressurized basket and more at a very cheap price, there's a lack of reviews on youtube
Is the barista pro better now since it now has the Baratza m2 burrs?
Dual Boiler Dynamic Duo is the only real answer.
Then upgrade grinder as you progress
This video is aimed at people who're looking for an integrated grinder machine, for anyone who isn't, then yeah the DB is amazing.
Hi Kev, can I use Pro and/or Express Impress with supermarket beans? Can u do a video on how to use a supermarket beans with these machines? Thank you. Love your Videos.
Thanks for the kind words 😎. You can, easiest way is to use the dual walled baskets. You don't have to, you can be a rebel, ignore the instructions 😄, and use the single walled baskets, but just keep in mind that if you do that, you can't really rely on shot time as an indicator, and you may find that you can't really dial them in, like you can with freshly roasted beans - and by that I don't mean beans that were roasted this morning (that would be just as tough to dial in) but I mean beans that come with a roasted on date, ideally somewhere from a week to ten days from roast date, depending on the beans. Ta, Kev.
@Coffee_Kev So, how do you know what grind size to choose if we cannot use the formula of 1:2 in 30 sec with pressurized filter baskets?
Hello, thanks for all your videos. What do you think about the Quick Mill Carola? I don't need frothy milk
Thanks :-). That machine isn't really distributed within the UK, I'm aware of it, but I can't really say much about it as I've never used it. I'm sure if you do some googling about E61 machines you'll find info from people who've tried it, and also people with much more E61 experience than I have. Cheers, Kev.
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Sorry for so many responses. My phone was wacky
Got a touch impress on Sunday shot times are so inconsistent it’s unreal pull a shot will be 25s then pull straight after will be 17s telling me to change grind size then u changes will pull ok then the next one will be 35s then tell you to change grind size again starting starting to get on my nerves now
We went for Barista Touch Impress, really happy with it, from design to features… I do have one “but”… the frotthing is not great- so on my slow days I do my late using smeg frother..
I got a barista pro after Christmas and have heard I really need a different grinder to get a good grind. Is this true? I’m looking at one of the bambinos with maybe a niche zero. I liked the pro and did a lot of research but don’t want to spend a lot of money in another two years. Really frustrated with two wasted bags of fresh coffee and lots of spat shots. Is it the grinder? Help!? I dunno what to doooo
Is the grinder in the Barista Pro the reason you can't make decent shots, I'd say probably not, loads of home baristas use the pro and make great shots with it.
Are there better stand alone grinders than the integrated grinder in the pro, of course, but this doesn't mean you can't make decent shots with the Pro, if you're not making drinkable shots with it, it's more than likely a dialling in issue.
Ta
Kev
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Hi Kev
I’ll be the only one in house using a machine so barista pro best choice?
What do you mean by should you go for an integrated grinder with pro if getting into home barista hobby? Don’t understand this is this a negative with the pro?
Barista pro better than express impress?
What time of year might there be a bargain on the pro? Looks like pro is a good option….I think?
Thank you for the top class information 🙏🏻
Yeah if you're wanting to get into the home barista hobby, the Barista Pro is defo one of the best choices if you want an integrated grinder machine, imho. Not sure which bit you're referring to with your second paragraph, can you give me the time stamp please, maybe I was just talking nonsense ;-).
Barista pro better than express impress? - Just depends on the user.
What time of year might there be a bargain on the pro? Looks like pro is a good option….I think? - Hard to guess, but the pro is one of the machines that tends to be on offer the most, so you probably won't have to wait too long, especially if you're happy with black - personally I think black stainless and black truffle are way better looking than the silver ones.
You're very welcome 🙂
Ta
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev thanks Kev not talking nonesense at all your information is so helpful thank you :) Just a little confused with this bit.
3mins 50secs in
“Should you even go for for an integrated grinder machine if getting into the home barista hobby…that’s a contentious issue straight answer is probably not but for the price”
This has me confused not sure if your saying to go for the pro or not? Just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I make the plunge. Sounds like you highly recommend the machine except for this line but not sure 😂 Im open to any of the machines whatever you'd suggest the most out of the sage!
Thank you for the advice with black stainless vs normal stainless will go for the black stainless when see on offer :)
@@user-cn7ep1us9j yeah basically what I'm saying is that if you're knowingly getting into the home barista hobby, any integrated grinder machine probably isn't the best idea. If you need to go integrated grinder for a specific reason, then the Pro is a good option, but I'd highly recommend thinking about starting out with a stand alone espresso machine and grinder.
@@Coffee_Kev thanks so much! Is there a particular stand alone expresso machine & grinder that you’d most recommend? Thanks so much!
Hi kev, could I ask a question
I have the sage barista express touch and I find that the grinder keeps on changing its grind, setting automatically by itself by one or two steps have you heard of this and is there a reason why this is happening many thanks
Hi :-), when you say barista express touch, you mean the Barista touch impress? It's the LCD grind size that's changing? Ta, Kev
😂 yes sorry as per your video so many options I got confused.so it’s the touch impress
Mine does the same 🤷🏻♀️
Same with Impress
This seem to be a problem as I’ve seen a couple of port on Reddit to if there’s a way of fixing this issue kev that would be amazing
From reading reviews, I noticed that Machines with Milq system have a high rate of heat sensor failure. This will cause the Machine to stop functioning completely. Anyone has this experience? That stopped me from considering touch/ touch impress.
Hmm, new one on me. I get some about dose sensor faults out of the box, that's one I've heard a few times, also there have been a dodgy batch of top burrs at some point (so if it takes double the time it should to grind, you need a new top burr), not heard about the heat sensor failure. Ta, Kev.
guys! don't blast me here! have a manual grinder and noticed sometimes i don't get the right taste each time, and i don't have enough time to play around during morning days as work to save time, can i grind fine and use a PRESSURISED basket instead of a non pressurised .. to at least give me good coffee? is that okay!?!!?!?!? i have the sage bambino HELP,. i know normally not to
Cries in Bambino Plus... 😭😭
Haha, the Bambino Plus is ace, no need to cry ;-). This video is aimed at people who're trying to decide between the various different Sage/Breville integrated grinder machines. Ta, Kev.
The bambino is a great little machine if you have decent grinder
@@Ag_82 agree, I recently took one on holiday (which may seem strange out of context...) paired with the Baratza Forte, some very decent espresso on that holiday.
@@Coffee_Kev yeah I just got a eureka grinder I also have the izpresso jmax. It's hard to know what to upgrade to after the bambino plus