now that's the way to respectfully post an opposing view point! thanks! sometimes i think lubricant on the cylinder head is alright. but i have had some where it is so tight it just pushes all the lubricant out anyway. depends on your preference. i have never had a problem with dry cylinder head o-rings.
I have actually had nothing but problems with teflon grease in the past. Every time I used it my bevel gear on the top side would always wear it off in only a few thousand rotations of the bevel itself and then start screeching very loudly. Using it on the cylinder however, was never a problem, and I also use it on my piston racks too. For gears though, I do recommend white lithium because it really works well on metal-to-metal contact, as well as metal-to-plastic for those who run nylon bushings. Ever since moving to WL I haven't really had issues with bevel screeching.
for the piston head o ring grease it first and then stretch it over a cylinder and heat it up with a lighter. the heat will make the o ring larger which makes a better seal.
Absolutely! This is a great lubricant. I use for everything from an AEG gearbox, our RC differentials, vacuum pumps, to even the headstock bearings in my lathe. I also recommend a thin wipe of this on even static o-rings. It's irrelevant whether they're static or not, during normal operation, you manipulate them during assembly. I've seen plenty of static o-rings ruined from dry installation.
You talked about that when you buy one of the cheap JG guns the first thing you should to it "regrease" your gun! Is this the only part you were talking about or is there more places you should libricate on a new gun? Thank you for all the tips! Are just getting in to this and your videos have been alot of help! :)
I use thick die electric grease for the trigger contacts and the top of the gearbox. I use white lithium for the gears (still looking for a cheap alternative).
that is one i am not going to do. i don't personally have a need to cut any spring i own. what i recommend is that you cut off coil by coil until you get the desired fps.
exactly. most guns we get in at the shop are stock guns owned by kids wanting an indoor legal speed. most stock guns some with single metal tooth pistons.
I used silkolene red synthetic grease aka rubber grease. It's safe to rubber and plastic, has great lubricating properties and a lot cheaper then 'airsoft' grease costing stupid money for tiny pots.
Thanks for your videos buddy, I really appreciate the time you take. They have taught me alot and given me confidence to work on my aegs. A quick question for you my friend if you have time: do I lubricate the spring and spring Guide?
Great video! My first airsoft rifle is arriving tomorrow... nice to kno what im tearing into! But I agree. Im a plumber by trade and moving or not, o rings are designed to be lubed. This makes an o ring live a lot longer.
your way of applying the grease is great, allows pin point control... another way, maybe easier is using a brush. Not those pressed -handle small parts cleaning brushes you get at Harbor freight for a dollar per thousand (they shed the bristles way too easily) but a good hobby style brush from Michaels crafts or similar. The problem is not even how you apply the grease with a brush - it's finding a brush that won't shed the bristles! Leaving bristles in the grease you so painstakingly applied is not only annoying AF it is downright counter-productive.
Just use super glue or silicon grease but do not use silicon oil. Grease will last a hell of a lot longer than the oil will. It will probably only your last a thousand rounds But Reese will last for maybe even a couple years. When adding lubricant to the teeth remember that some of the grease is going to transfer to other gears.
What cylinder was in the gearbox in the video because i have one and I'd like to have a specific brand in mind. Also note that my cylinder is identical if not exact as the one in the video.
Is that a Lonex piston head you have on the piston? If so, how do you like it? I know that sounds weird, but I don't want to buy one until I know how they work.
Some people say u shouldnt use grease on o-rings. Only silicone oil. What do you think about that? Im using the guarder teflon grease myself on everything..
hmmm...my figers and hands sting after airsoft lube has been in contact wiith them awhile. been considering using rubber surgical gloves when im doing airsoft maintainence.
Hi,I have exactly the same gearbox,i bought it from a friend.It worked properly when the friend was using it. But someday when i was shooting , it just got stuck. I have experience with repairing gearboxes,so i opened it.Turns out it was piece od a piston so I put in a new one.BUT! :D when I got everything back in place,I tried a shot but it got stuck in loaded/opened position.And it happening again and again,and i have no idea what could it be.Everything is corectly placed.Do You have any idea?
you only put lithium grease on the gears not the o ring. Personally i moved away from white lithium and i use super lube synthetic grease or tri flow synthetic grease
If I do not ever lube my gears will the gearbox sound whiney and grindy?mine sound weird and the fire rate is slow but it's only been like that ever since I took it apart(it is not the motor adjustment I already adjusted that I th doesn't fix anything) someone please respond I'd like to know if this is the issue
IGDYgame that probably would be fine depending on how well your grease stick and usage. If you comfortable opening your gearbox it doesn't hurt to check every so often.
I would check to see if the factory did it to speck. the inner barrel may need some cleaning. I use personally an unjamming rod with a cloth on the end, with some rubbing alcohol. fell free to finish off with silicon oil. evike has higher concentration oil on their site, and that's a good overall oil. thick enough for the gears and such
Noooo don't but silicone oil on your gears. It's been my experience that it dries up and makes the gears grind. Just use Teflon grease. Its the same price if not cheaper.
From what I've heard: - Metal on Metal = Grease - Metal to plastic = silocone oil. So: Grease on the gears and silicon oil on the pistonhead and rails. Cylinderhead (tube) to nozzle use a little grease on the tube of the cylinderhead. Not in the nozzle just to be save, it will get in there but not deep so it won't be spread to the hopup chamber. You dont want silicone oil in your hopup.
This video is still helpful 5 years later. Thanks dude.
This video helped me 10 years later haha
@@Aupexx 12 years its helped me
Even in 2020, this is still very helpful
now that's the way to respectfully post an opposing view point! thanks!
sometimes i think lubricant on the cylinder head is alright. but i have had some where it is so tight it just pushes all the lubricant out anyway. depends on your preference. i have never had a problem with dry cylinder head o-rings.
thanks mate, i’ve been searching for quite a while on how to do this
I have actually had nothing but problems with teflon grease in the past. Every time I used it my bevel gear on the top side would always wear it off in only a few thousand rotations of the bevel itself and then start screeching very loudly. Using it on the cylinder however, was never a problem, and I also use it on my piston racks too.
For gears though, I do recommend white lithium because it really works well on metal-to-metal contact, as well as metal-to-plastic for those who run nylon bushings. Ever since moving to WL I haven't really had issues with bevel screeching.
for the piston head o ring grease it first and then stretch it over a cylinder and heat it up with a lighter. the heat will make the o ring larger which makes a better seal.
just use super lube synthetic grease for everything. its petroleum free and it has Teflon which is great for moving parts
Absolutely! This is a great lubricant. I use for everything from an AEG gearbox, our RC differentials, vacuum pumps, to even the headstock bearings in my lathe. I also recommend a thin wipe of this on even static o-rings. It's irrelevant whether they're static or not, during normal operation, you manipulate them during assembly. I've seen plenty of static o-rings ruined from dry installation.
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nah good video man that part made me laugh my ass off
You talked about that when you buy one of the cheap JG guns the first thing you should to it "regrease" your gun! Is this the only part you were talking about or is there more places you should libricate on a new gun? Thank you for all the tips! Are just getting in to this and your videos have been alot of help! :)
I use thick die electric grease for the trigger contacts and the top of the gearbox. I use white lithium for the gears (still looking for a cheap alternative).
THANK YOU , for all that you are doing to help others . AND ME
Thank you for this video! I am trying to build an M-4 from second hand parts, and I am new and greeny on this! This vidoe will be 200% helpfull!
This video is still helpful 2024. It's standing the test of time
that is one i am not going to do. i don't personally have a need to cut any spring i own. what i recommend is that you cut off coil by coil until you get the desired fps.
exactly. most guns we get in at the shop are stock guns owned by kids wanting an indoor legal speed. most stock guns some with single metal tooth pistons.
I prefer "faster" lubricants like silicone spray for piston rails and I suggest putting your lubricant inside cylinder walls, not to the piston head.
we cut springs all the time at the local shop with problems. much easier to do that than grind down steel teeth.
Dude i love your videos!
I used silkolene red synthetic grease aka rubber grease. It's safe to rubber and plastic, has great lubricating properties and a lot cheaper then 'airsoft' grease costing stupid money for tiny pots.
Thanks for your videos buddy, I really appreciate the time you take. They have taught me alot and given me confidence to work on my aegs.
A quick question for you my friend if you have time: do I lubricate the spring and spring Guide?
either cut the spring or install a lower power one.
there will only be swirls if the gears are shimmed to close and are touching
Great video! My first airsoft rifle is arriving tomorrow... nice to kno what im tearing into!
But I agree. Im a plumber by trade and moving or not, o rings are designed to be lubed. This makes an o ring live a lot longer.
I usually get a grease gun and use a full can and just put the tip down the nozzle and just fill the entire gearbox
I’m having a problem with the grease blowing through to the hop up sticking to BB grouping all over the place
your way of applying the grease is great, allows pin point control... another way, maybe easier is using a brush. Not those pressed -handle small parts cleaning brushes you get at Harbor freight for a dollar per thousand (they shed the bristles way too easily) but a good hobby style brush from Michaels crafts or similar. The problem is not even how you apply the grease with a brush - it's finding a brush that won't shed the bristles! Leaving bristles in the grease you so painstakingly applied is not only annoying AF it is downright counter-productive.
nice video very informative
Thanks dude. Pretty common sense for me but just wanted to be sure haha. Cheers.
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Thanks i Needed This Becuase I Am Starting To Do Upgrades
Just use super glue or silicon grease but do not use silicon oil. Grease will last a hell of a lot longer than the oil will. It will probably only your last a thousand rounds But Reese will last for maybe even a couple years. When adding lubricant to the teeth remember that some of the grease is going to transfer to other gears.
to be honest, i rarely lubricate the tappet plate.
Is it possible you could make a video about proper "angle of engagement" between your sector gear and piston? That would be awesome :).
also i find q-tips to be very effective and time saving for a lube.
yeah, i think i can get around to that eventually. just have to find a gun to do it to.
nice video man, good for all beginners, but you forgot the tappet plate!
those are upwards of $110. i got these gear, bushings, shims, piston, and piston head on ebay for $60.
What cylinder was in the gearbox in the video because i have one and I'd like to have a specific brand in mind. Also note that my cylinder is identical if not exact as the one in the video.
Do you Lube the tappet plate guide rails? bc that too is a moving part. also a Q tip works well for the air nozzle lube job
Is that a Lonex piston head you have on the piston? If so, how do you like it? I know that sounds weird, but I don't want to buy one until I know how they work.
Can u make a tip on how to cut a spring to lower ur fps??
Some people say u shouldnt use grease on o-rings. Only silicone oil. What do you think about that? Im using the guarder teflon grease myself on everything..
hmmm...my figers and hands sting after airsoft lube has been in contact wiith them awhile. been considering using rubber surgical gloves when im doing airsoft maintainence.
What's your take on glueing the bushings?
How often should you do this?
Ok thanks...... do you have any idea how to drop it by about 50 fps??
Hi,I have exactly the same gearbox,i bought it from a friend.It worked properly when the friend was using it. But someday when i was shooting , it just got stuck. I have experience with repairing gearboxes,so i opened it.Turns out it was piece od a piston so I put in a new one.BUT! :D when I got everything back in place,I tried a shot but it got stuck in loaded/opened position.And it happening again and again,and i have no idea what could it be.Everything is corectly placed.Do You have any idea?
In the gate titan mosfet installation video they used like an oil instead of Greece is that ok?
you only put lithium grease on the gears not the o ring. Personally i moved away from white lithium and i use super lube synthetic grease or tri flow synthetic grease
what happens if I over lube it with white grease? how can I know if I am over lubing?
If I do not ever lube my gears will the gearbox sound whiney and grindy?mine sound weird and the fire rate is slow but it's only been like that ever since I took it apart(it is not the motor adjustment I already adjusted that I th doesn't fix anything) someone please respond I'd like to know if this is the issue
How often should this even be done? Every year good?
IGDYgame that probably would be fine depending on how well your grease stick and usage. If you comfortable opening your gearbox it doesn't hurt to check every so often.
Can i use Guarder teflon grease for lubricate my bucking ?
Btw, do you know km bucking ?
Do you lube the bearings?
How often should you lubricate
hey astkilo23, on my sector gear the delay chip gets in they way and the tappet plate keeps bumping it. Any tips or suggestions?
get a new sector gear, remove the chip, or try a different tappet plate.
Hey astkilo23, what do you think of the supercore piston?
I got a new gun when do u think i should lube that
Are KWA gearboxes compatible with most bodies?
Can vaseline be used to lubricate?
no...
aw.
actually you should short stroke it.... dont just cut the spring.
Is the Motor oil( car ) usefull..?
Can I use spray grease or no
White lithium grease is good for the gears, not the O-rings
Do you have to use grease or can u just use silicone?
Use grease silicone has not worked every time I use it, for a longer lasting lube u should use the gear grease he used
Why didn't you buy seigetek gears!?! They don't brake, and if they have life time replacement.
Can I use silicone spray on the gears
No, too thin.
Nick Shaputis you can use medium viscosity silicon oil like traxxas 30k or 50k which is used in rc cars.
Putting too much can acc fuck your gearbox and affect the performance drastically so you shouldn't ever apply too much
how often should i grease my gearbox?
Will butter work?
Jacob Hogue no. but a sandwich will. ham and cheese sandwich.
Butter to replace grease?😂 maybe i should use cooking oil instead of silicon oil🤣
Aaaahh the beloved swiss-cheese-piston...
How often should I grease my gearbox : hours of play
+underhandink8 depending on how much you play usually once year is fine
What If u dont lube it
what brand of gearbox is that
It's a version 2 gearbox. They're all based upon the Tokyo Marui gearbox.
can i lubricate gearbox without open it?
if you get an ICS gun, you can super easily
What mosfet is in this gun?
Should I grease my new gun?
I would check to see if the factory did it to speck. the inner barrel may need some cleaning. I use personally an unjamming rod with a cloth on the end, with some rubbing alcohol. fell free to finish off with silicon oil. evike has higher concentration oil on their site, and that's a good overall oil. thick enough for the gears and such
u help me so much
Thank you
Will silicone OIL work?
Noooo don't but silicone oil on your gears. It's been my experience that it dries up and makes the gears grind. Just use Teflon grease. Its the same price if not cheaper.
@@landonpollard38 this explains allot 😂
What did you call the pad that was on the sylinder head? Something Pad"
Is it for making the impact more quiet?
lol and what about bearings? The dont need begreased? xD
also airsoft brand lubricants are rip offs. you pay 10 bucks for a TINY amount of grease.
RIP Airsplat
no, they cannot fit in most guns.
lol, lubing the nozzle is bad because all that lube is gonna get shot down your barrel.
I just use vaseline lol never had any problems with that
sorbo, or sorbothane.
421 lmao its bad its bad
I'm really glad he got rid of most of this intro.
yeah because its still gear teeth
...not!
seigeteks are still a better deal....
Ahh yes, Siegeteks. great gears
grease me up women
ok dude i love your show and reviews and stuff but you need a new intro
flat head..... screwdriver xD
Lol . Its bad its really bad
how often should you do something like this?
Does silicone spray work?
From what I've heard:
- Metal on Metal = Grease
- Metal to plastic = silocone oil.
So:
Grease on the gears and silicon oil on the pistonhead and rails.
Cylinderhead (tube) to nozzle use a little grease on the tube of the cylinderhead.
Not in the nozzle just to be save, it will get in there but not deep so it won't be spread to the hopup chamber.
You dont want silicone oil in your hopup.