I wouldn't call it the wrong move, I'd refer to it more as a case of which flavor of poison do you like more? A Starting Pitcher who's always injured? Or a position player who is........ also always injured?
Well said. All those men get hurt and under-performed. Rendon is horrible because he could have helped Ohtani-Trout combo the last 4 years. If Ohtani resign with the Angles for the biggest MLB contract ever, I bet he will immediately get hurt and will join the Club. So, Shohei, please go some place else. I like you a ton and don't want you to join the Club.
I will give the Angels some leeway on this one. Rendon had just put up like 4 elite injury free seasons in a row before he signed his contract. There was no real sign that he was going to fall apart. Instead of a Pujols situation where everyone could see it would be a disaster, I really think this was more bad luck than anything. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s probably the worst contract and signing in MLB history though.
As an Angels fan I will never give them leeway. We have a history of giving players big money well into their 30’s. Could’ve gone after Harper, Seager, Correa, etc.
As an Angels fan it’s agonizing. We keep doing this. Pujols, Hamilton, Wells, Upton, CJ, etc. We throw big money on big years at every older big name free agent. Get out of one bad deal just to sign the next.
The Dodgers we’re the runner up to Rendon and at the time. And when he went to the Angels every Dodger fan was confused and upset because coming off one of the worst post season losses they had had in this current run (still haunts me to this day) the coming in 3rd to the Cole sweepstakes. We wanted (needed) the Dodgers to acquire some one big. He choose the Angels over the Dodgers because he felt the “Hollywood lifestyle” didn’t fit his family views/style. Two months later the Dodgers traded for Mookie Betts, and then won a WS. Needless to say the Dodgers dodged a pretty big bullet.
As a Yankee fan I can feel your pain....we have Judge, Cole, Rodon, Stanton and probably won't be in the playoffs... y'all have two of the best players in the history of the game and are about to lose otani
@@bizzlea887as a Philly fan, I hope the Yankees one day can return to glory because the way certain teams are handling things (like the Orioles) make me want to see the Yankees return to glory. And Rob Thomson being a former NYY coach has definitely had a steady hand in the Phillies playing so well as they are right now. The Phillies are not a perfect team by any means, but I do believe they have developed a culture of 'team' work, and not relying solely one 1⃣ individual like Harper for instance. And I appreciate how the Phillies are now compared with the recent mediocrity (and back when i took their excellence for granted - prior to their decline when Charlie Manuel was let go).
@@EmbraceTheStruggle24 the Yanks need to bite the bullet and sell off a few guys get some good draft picks and build the farm system up so when it's time to win again we can sustain several seasons of post season play and not look to buy the aging free agents to win for a year. You are right about Philly, I enjoy watching them play
@@bizzlea887 definitely for sure. I think if Philly and NYY were to match up now; I say Phillies sweep...and it seems that series back in April was an eternity ago when the Yankees took 2 of 3. As of now, the teams that match up well with the Phillies are the Braves and Giants in terms of the NL. The Dodgers are a team to watch out for too.
As an Angels fan, hearing Rendon’s quotes sounds like he’s totally checked out. Given the boldness of Minasian, I wouldn’t be surprised if they release him like they did Pujols
I would have traded Ohtani and made them take the Rendon contract. It would have been a tough decision but Rendon contract hurts signing Ohtani. Plus the Rendon contract is going to make it tough to be competitive. Frustrating for Angels fans. Rendon checks out just like Upton did.
The only thing the Angels can do right now is suck it up and hope that Rendon can turn it around. They're never gonna make up for all the money they gave him, but if he can at least play like an average major leaguer, it would be worth more than just releasing him I'd assume, especially since they have to pay him regardless.
That's the issue. When you PAY for" Generational Talent" can't afford to have a miss around him. The Angels show a failed model. Also happened to the Giants in the Bonds era. Never won anything until they changed the formula.
Rendon looked like a perennial all star when he signed the contract. Same with Josh Hamilton when he signed with the Angels. Pujols had a somewhat down year in his last season in St. Louis, but he still looked like he was worth the contract. They’ve definitely tried, it just hasn’t worked out. The decline of those 3 players is/was unpredictable.
I’ve never seen such a poorly ran franchise. It’s like they try and lose on purpose. Imagine having a unircorn like Othani and an all timer like Trout and never being over .500.
Its because all the Angels organization cares about is money. Jersey sales, butts in seats, etc. Hey, lets sign one big name guy to get people to come to games, and not put an ounce into scouting, player development, or other good Free agent moves.
I feel like the Chris Davis deal would've been better for us if he had played even fewer games, but the Orioles of those years were structured in a way that they had to put them out there.
The Angels could afford to keep Ohtani (the most productive player in baseball) if they hadn't paid so much for Rendon (one of the least productive) THE IRONY HURTS SO BADLY!
Angels still can keep Ohtani by offering equity of the team along with cash contract. Ohtani will NOT move just for money. As long as Angels show that they are willing to win by acquiring pitchers, Ohtani will stay in my opinion. Just get rid of Rendon first, though. He is NO GOOD on teams morale.
They could absolutely afford both. The Angels aren't some small market team in the middle of nowhere. Whether or not Ohtani actually stays is another matter.
The Angels are a big market team. They’re not the Dodgers, but they can certainly afford to pay both of them at the same time. This ain’t the NFL or NHL.
Biggest reason his contract is terrible. Had they spent that money on pitching talent they probably woulf have made the playoffs this year. OHTANI potentially stays long term because there would be a chance of going to the playoffs again the next year which a healthy Urshela, Ohoppe and Neto. None of that is going to happen now.
why would you EVER sign someone who admitted that he views baseball as just a game and doesn't actually care very much? He doesn't even show up to the games when he's been injured. No updates, no words to fans, nothing. Dude is just laughing his way to the bank.
And keep in mind that all of us fans are paying for his absenteeism by expensive entrance fees, jacked up food & beverage prices, high-marked merchandises. In the end all non-performing athletes money is coming out of fans pockets. Disgusting.
@@yaniyuhara8165 It's pretty pathetic. Trout and Ohtani want to win and play with passion and heart, and then you have guys like Rendon that totally spoil it for them.
its funny because moustakas has been on the angels for less than two months and has encapsulated the fans more than rendon has. I really wished the rendon contract worked out
Funny how the Dodgers were considered an unfocused team not serious about winning. His tenure with the Angels is the definition of what going Hollywood is.
He always seemed like a mild mannered guy when he was with the Nationals. Signing a huge contract and playing in LA has probably got to him because after the fan interaction earlier in the season, he doesn’t seem like the same person, and he’s definitely not the same player.
Need a full video on the 2019 Nationals Curse. Rendon? Strasburg? Corbin? Even the players playing well have disappointing team outcomes - Soto, Turner, Scherzer, etc.
@@philly_sports1558yeah turner himself has been disappointing. Idk if he’s gonna turn it around but it looks like my dodgers dodged another bullet with Turner LOL
Idk what it is but whenever the Angels hand out a huge contracts the players they give them to become injury prone or they hit a major decline in skills. Trout got paid and can barely play half a season now. Rendon cant play more than 60 games. Josh Hamilton couldn't make it a year and half with them. Pujols production fell off a cliff. CJ Wilson couldn't stay healthy. Ian Kinsler couldn't last 1 season. They have the worst management in all of baseball
Honestly, I think this is a mix of bad luck and bad team culture; playing armchair psychiatrist here but Rendón seems really depressed about his own poor play, combine that with the Angels being a media circus because in a big market and his injuries… yeah it’s sad for all parties involved. That being said I do think there has to be something up with the Angels training staff, he goes from no injuries at all to unable to stay healthy as soon as he goes to them
the fact that pujols made something of a comeback with the dodgers and 2nd stint with with the cards makes me think the angels org is rotted from the inside out
@@eyeamstrongest I mean honestly being stuck on the Angels for 10 years after putting up one of the greatest 10 year debut stretches in history will do that. I'm an Angels fan, but it was ridiculous we signed him for 10 years when he was already 30 (allegedly even a few years older). You sign a guy like that to supplement and coach a young and rising team- the Angels signed him to be the 1-2 punch with Trout. Everyone knew that he was gonna regress after 3-4 years (maybe not nearly as much as he did), but being in our losing environment and knowing you're stuck there has gotta be just do demotivating. Moving to the Dodgers he knew he was pretty much "washed," and had nothing to prove- the team was going to win a ton with or without him. Dodgers also have management/ coaching with brains, and decided to only let him see LHP's given his splits. Then moving back to the Cards for one last year was kinda like a victory lap- I feel like the pure nostalgia let him go out with a bang. Also just thought of the fact that had resigned with the Cards after 2011, that contract likely would've been even worse than with the Angels. He wouldn't have been able to DH until the last couple years, which would've been a shit show.
@@eyeamstrongest Glad to know someone agrees with my little rant hahaha. I wish I could root for another team and save myself the anguish but I can't commit to it. I really don't know what the Angels' future will hold- had Arte Moreno sold the team like he said he would this past offseason, he could've fetched a premium just because they had Ohtani contracted for another year. But since Ohtani will almost certainly walk, selling the club won't get nearly as much- which makes me think he just won't sell at all anymore. Never committing to a full rebuild of the team really fucked the Angels, especially when comparing to teams like the Astros and Orioles who sucked for years and are now set up for the next decade.
Rendon is another example of player getting his bag and no longer caring. Jordan and Kobe have talked about this in interviews, all professionals have talent but most half ass it until another contract year once they get paid, which is why they were constantly on their teammates. If they didnt hustle or give 100% they were shipped out.
as a Dodgers fan, I'm hella glad he didn't want to come here. the guys becoming the biggest bust in mlb history. geezus, I think he enjoys the IL. who wouldn't? collecting a fat check while not having to earn it. great work, if you can get it.
Eh, biggest bust in MLB history is going a little too far. He won a World Series. There have been countless busts, mostly draft picks who never made it to the majors. I'd say "most underwhelming player" by far, though.
Got to hand it to Artie, instead of shipping Ohtani for potential the greatest farm haul in MLB history he decides to buy at the deadline for the Angels to promptly go on a losing streak sitting pretty at 7 games behind the 7th seeded Bluejays.
Edit: The Angels are a disaster. They made all those desperation moves at the deadline and are in a tailspin. Shohei is as good as gone, and they'll get NOTHING but a comp pick for it
I don’t blame him for not wanting to interact with the media…the brainless questions they ask make my head hurt. Couldn’t imagine how he feels slumping in front of millions, getting shit from every fanbase every time he plays (including his own), then getting asked by the media what’s wrong or if he’s feeling better every chance they get….take the money and run Rendon, the depression isn’t worth it
@@AnaheimAngels24 weird way to admit you’re shallow minded and lack basic empathy…professional athletes aren’t robots, getting shit from millions of people night after night will have an effect on anyone’s mental health, regardless of their wealth.
@ElotTheRavenFan8 Here's a quote from Rendon: "I don't watch baseball. It's too long and boring." He doesn't seem to care. I know he's a human. I'd rather worry about people who are struggling and have no money at all.
@@AnaheimAngels24 lmao thanks for proving my point…That’s one of the brainless questions I was talking about, he’s 11 years into his professional career…Rendons “watched” more baseball in person than anyone asking those questions to him…and him getting shit on by millions day after day will lead someone to act like they don’t care in order to protect his own sanity. He’s a human like the rest of us, no one’s asking you to worry about him, just stop being so shallow and have some empathy.
He’s been a waste of money but also constantly injured. That can frustrate any player or make them jaded. Some other team would have signed him to the fat contract instead of the Angels. Just a shame how it turned out.
Not related to Rendon but the IKF SAS clip is hilarious considering IKF has been one of the Yankees best hitters for a while now. Just shows that SAS doesn’t know ball whatsoever
IKF still gets a lot of hate, even from Yankees fans, just because he’s not a Hr hitter. I remember the uproar throughout the Yankees fandom when they signed him, even tho he has a solid glove and doesn’t strike out much.
Not super surprising. This is a guy who, even back with the Nationals, called baseball too long and boring and just saw it as a job. He even said he wanted to be known more as a Christian than as a baseball player and that he was definitely retiring once he hit 35. This is a guy who got his big payday and checked out immediately afterwards.
i remember my Dodgers were in the Rendon bidding war and he publicly snubbed us , saying he "didn't want to play in Hollywood". well, i couldn't be more grateful for his decision.
I feel like once the Angels push the reset button on their front office and ownership (minus GM Perry Minasian), players would actually want to play there. Until then, it seems every new acquisition, especially Rendon, just wants to take their bag and check out. I can't begin to tell you how frustrating it is that we have gotten more production at 3rd from Eduardo Escobar and Mike freaking Moustakas this year than Tony Two-Wrists.
Rendon has 22 HR in 4 years with the Angels, in 720 AB. A typical season for him prior to joining the Angels was 550 AB. At this rate he has an outside shot at not reaching 200 HR career, after being on pace for around 400 during his Washington years
I actually feel bad for Angels fans because at the time of the signing this seemed like a good move with Rendon coming off a great career year and WS in his belt but injuries really hampered the potential he can bring to the Angels.
Angels messed up not trading Ohtani and unloading the Rendon contract with it. They could have gotten prospect haul to build their future and gotten rid of the Rendon contract to use that money for other guys. It made so much sense. Now, they will lose Ohtani and be stuck with Rendon. Gotta feel bad for Trout.
Even if they resign ohtani for 60 million a year they still have have over 30 million to play with until reaching the luxury tax. Especially if you backload ohtanis contract and restructure Trouts contract you can have 90-100 million to spend and they’re team guys I’m sure trout wouldn’t mind getting paid less for three years when the rendon contract is up
I remember tuning into the Nats games in 2019 and watching Rendon rake. However, I’ll always be a firm believer that Gerardo Parra is the reason they won it all
I really wanted the Rangers to sign him back when he was a FA. Josh Jung was still years away from fully developing and he could've been a great piece at 3rd. They only offered him a 6 year contract with a option for the 7th year. Looking back, I am VERY glad he didn't sign with the Rangers. Jung has been great so far and the Rangers used the money to sign Seager and Semien.
It's honestly really sad to see, I'm a fan who only really watches my team, but Rendon was one of my favorite players to watch around the league. The way that the dude just GOLFS balls out of the park is beautiful, just wish I could see it more often
7:29 watched this live, got the alert from the mlb app that detmers had a no hitter going so i threw the game on and this was the first play i saw lmao
As a lifelong Angels fans, we are known for signing horrendous contracts. Josh Hamilton, Albert Pujols, CJ Wilson, Anthony Rendon, and so on. If you’re over 30 years old and need a 7+ year backend loaded contract you will be getting a call from us.
The Arizona Cardinals used to be like this (still like this?) They'd always sign really old, past their prime players. The Rockies also sign a lot of older, past their prime players. Matt Kemp was on the Rockies as recently as the late 2010s or so. He was great on the Dodgers but I have no idea why the Rockies signed him.
Stephen A Smith knows as much about sports as my 12-year-old son knows advanced calculus. Which is to say little. Stephen A Smith knows as much about major-league baseball as my eight year old daughter knows molecular science, which is to say none.
@@sirfallsalot2000 But it's a weak comment, that goes without saying for 99.9% of MLB players, hell people in general. He can prioritize his family without using it as an excuse for why he has been awful
I met Rendon in Pittsburgh while he was playing for the Nats. Honestly couldnt have been nicer. I also didnt ask him for an autograph or anything so that could have also made the situation better for me lol
I personally believe so that he regrets his decision. And I also feel he doesn't have much respect for Arte Mereno either. It's fairly obvious the Angels were never serious about creating a winning/championship culture in Anaheim. Ohtani probably realizes now, to not only win, but also get ultimate respect, he needs to be on an elite franchise big market team. No one cares how well you do in low pressure Anaheim...can you do it in high pressure New York, Boston, L.A. Dodgers, St. Louis, etc.
Nah, the Angels were the only team in the bidding at the time to take his desire to play two-way seriously. Even if he ended up in the NL, he would've just been seen the same way as Michael Lorenzen when he was pushing the Reds to let him play two-way. In a weird way, Ohtani needed the Angels and their desire to market him as a two-way player to get the chance he deserved. Now he has proven his abilities and can take them wherever he desires.
@@T_K7false. they payed him league minimum because he was an international rookie. The dude was cheap most team would have allowed him two way duties as long as they weren't already a serious world series contender. He chose the Angels because he wanted to play for an underdog team to help turn the team around. How is that working out for ohtani...lmao
@@phuckfumassters If he wanted an underdog team that bad he would've gone with the Mariners when they tried courting him over (there's still fans that believe he'll come here in 2024 because of that lol). No one in the MLB other than the Reds and maybe the Rays were even toying with the idea of two-way play at the time. Also, he was not an international free agent but an international amateur due to his age, which meant teams had to spend from their very limited international amateur signing bonus pools to get him. Ohtani ended up getting about $2.3M compared to a roughly $3.6M allocation for each team that year, so yes, there was bidding over him since teams had other high profile int. amateurs they wished to sign.
@@T_K7 Mariners? You really think Ohtani wants to play under the shadows of the great Ichiro Suzuki? You basically made my point about him being an international rookie only allowed league minimum pay. I said the same thing. Only he knows why he chose the Angels. The Angels being the only team allowing two way duties is misleading and not true. Angels fans somehow make this claim so they can convince themselves that Ohtani should remain loyal to the Angels.
This team has been cursed since Arte Moreno lied to Torii Hunter , he told him there was no money to resign him but he went out and gave Josh Hamilton 125 million
Jolly, you have to do a weekly Stephen A. Smith highlight reel when he’s trying to talk about baseball 3:48😂 Great video on Rendon! A typical Angels FA mega deal signing & that results in the player underperforming/getting injured
It really is. As an angels fan it hurts watching him play and just get injured all the time and he also thinks he has had nothing to prove. He can go his contract is a waste the only reason we signed this guy was because cole laughed at us when we tried to sign him so Moreno wanted to sign rendon for the sake of just signing someone the writing was on the wall with rendon a guy who was going to be over 30 and had injury problems before that
The guy is a competitor, but at some point he broke down mentally from all the injuries and pressure of expectations from his big contract. It is truly a sad story.
let's also be honest, there should be repercussions for the Angels from MLB for signing him after his inflated 2019 campaign. In fact the league should get something for that considering what everyone essentially knows to be the case about the balls in play during that season.
It is like the Nationals in that 2019 just blew up after on former players, current players, and the teams staff have been all over the place since 2019.
I went to an Angels game earlier this year. Rendon wasn't at the game, but what was interesting is he's not even marketed. I don't think I saw his face anywhere at the stadium. It's like they want everyone to forget he's on the team.
As an Angels fan, the juxtaposition of the signing is the other big free agents available that summer. Namely Gerritt Cole who the Angels were reportedly a finalist for signing before he signed with NYY
I like how the Nationals still somehow made the wrong choice by giving Strasburg the contract instead of Rendon
I wouldn't call it the wrong move, I'd refer to it more as a case of which flavor of poison do you like more? A Starting Pitcher who's always injured? Or a position player who is........ also always injured?
Lol
They didn't make the wrong choice. They were screwed either way. Both doors led to death. They just picked one 😅
@@Whiteguyvideogamesthe nats had to pick a door, they just didn't know they were a contestant on Most Extreme Elimination Challenge 😂
Then they tried to pay Soto and he said no 😂
No way. The Angels never ever sign bad contracts.
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There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Seems like guys forget how to play baseball/stay healthy when they put on that Angels uniform. It's sad to see.
The Angels and Disaster Contracts go hand in hand
Vlad Guerrero and possibly Torri Hunter are two of the few exceptions.
And those were signed awhile back.
Well said. All those men get hurt and under-performed. Rendon is horrible because he could have helped Ohtani-Trout combo the last 4 years. If Ohtani resign with the Angles for the biggest MLB contract ever, I bet he will immediately get hurt and will join the Club. So, Shohei, please go some place else. I like you a ton and don't want you to join the Club.
Pujols was the worst one.
Angels just suck as a team. Dodgers is best team in California
I will give the Angels some leeway on this one. Rendon had just put up like 4 elite injury free seasons in a row before he signed his contract. There was no real sign that he was going to fall apart. Instead of a Pujols situation where everyone could see it would be a disaster, I really think this was more bad luck than anything. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s probably the worst contract and signing in MLB history though.
As an Angels fan I will never give them leeway. We have a history of giving players big money well into their 30’s. Could’ve gone after Harper, Seager, Correa, etc.
I saw guy say he had a few good weeks before giving him this contract.
When he declined to play for a winner to play for the Angels, knew dude was a loser.
@@lamasizzy0599But those three have all had injury problems in their careers too so what's the difference?
So is that contract worse than Alberts
As an Angels fan it’s agonizing. We keep doing this. Pujols, Hamilton, Wells, Upton, CJ, etc. We throw big money on big years at every older big name free agent. Get out of one bad deal just to sign the next.
To be honest Rendon was about to turn 30 not exactly old and came off 4 fantastic seasons. I don’t think anyone saw this coming
Scouting problem
@@yaniyuhara8165 it’s not just scouting, this has gone on across multiple managerial staffs. The one constant is Arte Moreno.
You forgot Gary Matthews JR
Vernon Wells, CJ Wilson, Gary Matthews Jr., Albert Pujols, Zack Cozart, Mo Vaughn, Justin Upton and Anthony Rendon
The Dodgers we’re the runner up to Rendon and at the time. And when he went to the Angels every Dodger fan was confused and upset because coming off one of the worst post season losses they had had in this current run (still haunts me to this day) the coming in 3rd to the Cole sweepstakes. We wanted (needed) the Dodgers to acquire some one big. He choose the Angels over the Dodgers because he felt the “Hollywood lifestyle” didn’t fit his family views/style. Two months later the Dodgers traded for Mookie Betts, and then won a WS. Needless to say the Dodgers dodged a pretty big bullet.
Facts
So true. Typical “Hollywood” excuse. Dodgers do not play in Hollywood. SoCal in general is a great place to play baseball. He was scared of success.
The dodgers never won a World Series. And if you’re referring to the 60 game participation trophy, then you’re trippin!! Lol
@@jerseywalcott6408 Rendon is from Texas and more conservative and he got along great with the owner of the Angels who is Arte Murano.
Thank God the Dodgers were too Hollywood for him.
The Angels management has made some HORRIBLE decisions over the years. Garry Mathews Jr and Josh Hamilton just to name a few.
This reminded me there is almost nothing worse than listening to Stephen A Smith talk baseball..
I’m an angels fan and to say us fans are done with him is an understatement.
As a Yankee fan I can feel your pain....we have Judge, Cole, Rodon, Stanton and probably won't be in the playoffs... y'all have two of the best players in the history of the game and are about to lose otani
@@bizzlea887as a Philly fan, I hope the Yankees one day can return to glory because the way certain teams are handling things (like the Orioles) make me want to see the Yankees return to glory. And Rob Thomson being a former NYY coach has definitely had a steady hand in the Phillies playing so well as they are right now. The Phillies are not a perfect team by any means, but I do believe they have developed a culture of 'team' work, and not relying solely one 1⃣ individual like Harper for instance. And I appreciate how the Phillies are now compared with the recent mediocrity (and back when i took their excellence for granted - prior to their decline when Charlie Manuel was let go).
@@EmbraceTheStruggle24 the Yanks need to bite the bullet and sell off a few guys get some good draft picks and build the farm system up so when it's time to win again we can sustain several seasons of post season play and not look to buy the aging free agents to win for a year. You are right about Philly, I enjoy watching them play
@@bizzlea887 definitely for sure. I think if Philly and NYY were to match up now; I say Phillies sweep...and it seems that series back in April was an eternity ago when the Yankees took 2 of 3. As of now, the teams that match up well with the Phillies are the Braves and Giants in terms of the NL. The Dodgers are a team to watch out for too.
And Milwaukee Brewers are no pushover either.
As an Angels fan, hearing Rendon’s quotes sounds like he’s totally checked out. Given the boldness of Minasian, I wouldn’t be surprised if they release him like they did Pujols
With three years left on his deal? No way. Pujols was in his final year.
and they released pujols so that he could sign with the cards
I would have traded Ohtani and made them take the Rendon contract. It would have been a tough decision but Rendon contract hurts signing Ohtani. Plus the Rendon contract is going to make it tough to be competitive. Frustrating for Angels fans. Rendon checks out just like Upton did.
The only thing the Angels can do right now is suck it up and hope that Rendon can turn it around. They're never gonna make up for all the money they gave him, but if he can at least play like an average major leaguer, it would be worth more than just releasing him I'd assume, especially since they have to pay him regardless.
As a nats fan he's always acted like this, he just looks frustrated with not being able to play
The angels have great management and know how to build around generational talents!! 😇 sure is good they went all in!
You're joking right???
That's the issue. When you PAY for" Generational Talent" can't afford to have a miss around him. The Angels show a failed model. Also happened to the Giants in the Bonds era. Never won anything until they changed the formula.
You sir are a hero. The perfect comment
Rendon looked like a perennial all star when he signed the contract. Same with Josh Hamilton when he signed with the Angels. Pujols had a somewhat down year in his last season in St. Louis, but he still looked like he was worth the contract. They’ve definitely tried, it just hasn’t worked out. The decline of those 3 players is/was unpredictable.
@@FrankM299obviously he is
His answers to the stupid media questions make me like him more.
He's such a disrespectful clown.
The angels hand out bad contracts like they’re candy. It’s actually incredible.
I’ve never seen such a poorly ran franchise. It’s like they try and lose on purpose. Imagine having a unircorn like Othani and an all timer like Trout and never being over .500.
It started with signing Mo Vaughn to a terrible 6 year $80 million contract in 1998.
Its because all the Angels organization cares about is money. Jersey sales, butts in seats, etc. Hey, lets sign one big name guy to get people to come to games, and not put an ounce into scouting, player development, or other good Free agent moves.
They would have 5+ rookies on the roster if they were healthy
After 2019 he was looking like a hall of fame caliber third baseman. No one could’ve seen the disaster of his contract coming
I feel like the Chris Davis deal would've been better for us if he had played even fewer games, but the Orioles of those years were structured in a way that they had to put them out there.
Great video, love to see one about the Stanton contract
I feel sad that I defended this guy for two years....I cannot continue to defend his abysmal performance or lack of playing time.
The Angels could afford to keep Ohtani (the most productive player in baseball) if they hadn't paid so much for Rendon (one of the least productive) THE IRONY HURTS SO BADLY!
Angels still can keep Ohtani by offering equity of the team along with cash contract. Ohtani will NOT move just for money. As long as Angels show that they are willing to win by acquiring pitchers, Ohtani will stay in my opinion. Just get rid of Rendon first, though. He is NO GOOD on teams morale.
@@yaniyuhara8165Ohtani ain't staying. Angels are a shitshow
They could absolutely afford both. The Angels aren't some small market team in the middle of nowhere. Whether or not Ohtani actually stays is another matter.
@@yaniyuhara8165Ohtani said he wants to win. The Angels can't offer that with their current management.
The Angels are a big market team. They’re not the Dodgers, but they can certainly afford to pay both of them at the same time. This ain’t the NFL or NHL.
Biggest reason his contract is terrible. Had they spent that money on pitching talent they probably woulf have made the playoffs this year. OHTANI potentially stays long term because there would be a chance of going to the playoffs again the next year which a healthy Urshela, Ohoppe and Neto. None of that is going to happen now.
😂 Ohtani wanted to be a dodger
why would you EVER sign someone who admitted that he views baseball as just a game and doesn't actually care very much? He doesn't even show up to the games when he's been injured. No updates, no words to fans, nothing. Dude is just laughing his way to the bank.
And keep in mind that all of us fans are paying for his absenteeism by expensive entrance fees, jacked up food & beverage prices, high-marked merchandises. In the end all non-performing athletes money is coming out of fans pockets. Disgusting.
@@yaniyuhara8165 It's pretty pathetic. Trout and Ohtani want to win and play with passion and heart, and then you have guys like Rendon that totally spoil it for them.
I'm glad to never skip an ad in a Jolly Olive video.
I'm so fucking glad he was scared off from signing with the real Los Angeles team
The Lakers?
its funny because moustakas has been on the angels for less than two months and has encapsulated the fans more than rendon has. I really wished the rendon contract worked out
Pujols, Josh Hamilton, Vernon Wells, Rendon, Gary Matthews, I could go on and on. The Angels are a damn dumpster fire.
Justin Upton too
Hey man don't insult dumpster fires comparing it to the Angel's
And Mo Vaughn
Ohtani staying with the angels in any capacity is BAD FOR BASEBALL
Another great video, Keep it up man! Love these kinds of player recaps on their career shifts
Funny how the Dodgers were considered an unfocused team not serious about winning. His tenure with the Angels is the definition of what going Hollywood is.
Hollywood isn’t in Anaheim
He always seemed like a mild mannered guy when he was with the Nationals. Signing a huge contract and playing in LA has probably got to him because after the fan interaction earlier in the season, he doesn’t seem like the same person, and he’s definitely not the same player.
😂not LA you mean Anaheim
Need a full video on the 2019 Nationals Curse. Rendon? Strasburg? Corbin? Even the players playing well have disappointing team outcomes - Soto, Turner, Scherzer, etc.
Honestly every World Series champion from 2015-2019 sold their soul for a championship. The only champion still competitive is the Astros.
Turners played well except for my Phil’s but he’s starting to turn it around
How is Turner a disappointing team outcome lol the Phils are one of the best teams in baseball
@@philly_sports1558yeah turner himself has been disappointing. Idk if he’s gonna turn it around but it looks like my dodgers dodged another bullet with Turner LOL
Idk what it is but whenever the Angels hand out a huge contracts the players they give them to become injury prone or they hit a major decline in skills. Trout got paid and can barely play half a season now. Rendon cant play more than 60 games. Josh Hamilton couldn't make it a year and half with them. Pujols production fell off a cliff. CJ Wilson couldn't stay healthy. Ian Kinsler couldn't last 1 season. They have the worst management in all of baseball
I completely forgot Rendon actually finished top 10 in the 2020 MVP season. I forgot a lot of things about that season, lol!
Honestly, I think this is a mix of bad luck and bad team culture; playing armchair psychiatrist here but Rendón seems really depressed about his own poor play, combine that with the Angels being a media circus because in a big market and his injuries… yeah it’s sad for all parties involved. That being said I do think there has to be something up with the Angels training staff, he goes from no injuries at all to unable to stay healthy as soon as he goes to them
what media circus, no one in LA follows or cares about the angels. Their radio broadcasts get bumped for MLS soccer
the fact that pujols made something of a comeback with the dodgers and 2nd stint with with the cards makes me think the angels org is rotted from the inside out
@@eyeamstrongest I mean honestly being stuck on the Angels for 10 years after putting up one of the greatest 10 year debut stretches in history will do that. I'm an Angels fan, but it was ridiculous we signed him for 10 years when he was already 30 (allegedly even a few years older). You sign a guy like that to supplement and coach a young and rising team- the Angels signed him to be the 1-2 punch with Trout. Everyone knew that he was gonna regress after 3-4 years (maybe not nearly as much as he did), but being in our losing environment and knowing you're stuck there has gotta be just do demotivating. Moving to the Dodgers he knew he was pretty much "washed," and had nothing to prove- the team was going to win a ton with or without him. Dodgers also have management/ coaching with brains, and decided to only let him see LHP's given his splits. Then moving back to the Cards for one last year was kinda like a victory lap- I feel like the pure nostalgia let him go out with a bang.
Also just thought of the fact that had resigned with the Cards after 2011, that contract likely would've been even worse than with the Angels. He wouldn't have been able to DH until the last couple years, which would've been a shit show.
@@wiildn took the words out of my mouth man
@@eyeamstrongest Glad to know someone agrees with my little rant hahaha. I wish I could root for another team and save myself the anguish but I can't commit to it.
I really don't know what the Angels' future will hold- had Arte Moreno sold the team like he said he would this past offseason, he could've fetched a premium just because they had Ohtani contracted for another year. But since Ohtani will almost certainly walk, selling the club won't get nearly as much- which makes me think he just won't sell at all anymore. Never committing to a full rebuild of the team really fucked the Angels, especially when comparing to teams like the Astros and Orioles who sucked for years and are now set up for the next decade.
Rendon is another example of player getting his bag and no longer caring. Jordan and Kobe have talked about this in interviews, all professionals have talent but most half ass it until another contract year once they get paid, which is why they were constantly on their teammates. If they didnt hustle or give 100% they were shipped out.
Rendon is the Ben Simmons of the MLB
At least Rendon got championship
Nationals also signed Patrick Corbin to a nice big contract where he has consistently been a bottom five qualified pitcher
as a Dodgers fan, I'm hella glad he didn't want to come here. the guys becoming the biggest bust in mlb history. geezus, I think he enjoys the IL. who wouldn't? collecting a fat check while not having to earn it. great work, if you can get it.
This is exactly what it is. He doesn’t want to play.
Eh, biggest bust in MLB history is going a little too far. He won a World Series. There have been countless busts, mostly draft picks who never made it to the majors. I'd say "most underwhelming player" by far, though.
Got to hand it to Artie, instead of shipping Ohtani for potential the greatest farm haul in MLB history he decides to buy at the deadline for the Angels to promptly go on a losing streak sitting pretty at 7 games behind the 7th seeded Bluejays.
And didn’t he cut some of the players he acquired?
@@fortynights1513 He cut all of them.
Thank you Rendon for not signing with the Dodgers
Who knew the Hollywood lifestyle meant actually playing baseball.
what if he was actually good there, anaheim could be curse
Edit: The Angels are a disaster. They made all those desperation moves at the deadline and are in a tailspin. Shohei is as good as gone, and they'll get NOTHING but a comp pick for it
I don’t blame him for not wanting to interact with the media…the brainless questions they ask make my head hurt. Couldn’t imagine how he feels slumping in front of millions, getting shit from every fanbase every time he plays (including his own), then getting asked by the media what’s wrong or if he’s feeling better every chance they get….take the money and run Rendon, the depression isn’t worth it
You’re the only other person who seems to understand this.
Sympathy for Rendon? The dude makes over 30 million a year. I think he's ok.
@@AnaheimAngels24 weird way to admit you’re shallow minded and lack basic empathy…professional athletes aren’t robots, getting shit from millions of people night after night will have an effect on anyone’s mental health, regardless of their wealth.
@ElotTheRavenFan8 Here's a quote from Rendon: "I don't watch baseball. It's too long and boring." He doesn't seem to care.
I know he's a human. I'd rather worry about people who are struggling and have no money at all.
@@AnaheimAngels24 lmao thanks for proving my point…That’s one of the brainless questions I was talking about, he’s 11 years into his professional career…Rendons “watched” more baseball in person than anyone asking those questions to him…and him getting shit on by millions day after day will lead someone to act like they don’t care in order to protect his own sanity. He’s a human like the rest of us, no one’s asking you to worry about him, just stop being so shallow and have some empathy.
He’s been a waste of money but also constantly injured. That can frustrate any player or make them jaded.
Some other team would have signed him to the fat contract instead of the Angels. Just a shame how it turned out.
Jesus fucking Christ I feel so bad for Angels fans
Not related to Rendon but the IKF SAS clip is hilarious considering IKF has been one of the Yankees best hitters for a while now. Just shows that SAS doesn’t know ball whatsoever
IKF still gets a lot of hate, even from Yankees fans, just because he’s not a Hr hitter. I remember the uproar throughout the Yankees fandom when they signed him, even tho he has a solid glove and doesn’t strike out much.
Not super surprising. This is a guy who, even back with the Nationals, called baseball too long and boring and just saw it as a job. He even said he wanted to be known more as a Christian than as a baseball player and that he was definitely retiring once he hit 35. This is a guy who got his big payday and checked out immediately afterwards.
I’m sorry for any little kid born in Anaheim that has to root for this sad franchise
Love your reporting, Jolly! I predict huge things for your career!!
i remember my Dodgers were in the Rendon bidding war and he publicly snubbed us , saying he "didn't want to play in Hollywood". well, i couldn't be more grateful for his decision.
I feel like once the Angels push the reset button on their front office and ownership (minus GM Perry Minasian), players would actually want to play there. Until then, it seems every new acquisition, especially Rendon, just wants to take their bag and check out. I can't begin to tell you how frustrating it is that we have gotten more production at 3rd from Eduardo Escobar and Mike freaking Moustakas this year than Tony Two-Wrists.
Rendon has 22 HR in 4 years with the Angels, in 720 AB. A typical season for him prior to joining the Angels was 550 AB. At this rate he has an outside shot at not reaching 200 HR career, after being on pace for around 400 during his Washington years
I actually feel bad for Angels fans because at the time of the signing this seemed like a good move with Rendon coming off a great career year and WS in his belt but injuries really hampered the potential he can bring to the Angels.
200 games played over 4 years sounds like a nice job lol
I loved the T-shirt Rendon had on.... "Day Off, F@*k that 😂😂😂😂 What a clown
I completely forgot the Nationals almost had Harper, Soto, and Rendon
The ikf Steven A clip😂😂
Russo still pronounced it wrong trying to correct him
Angels messed up not trading Ohtani and unloading the Rendon contract with it. They could have gotten prospect haul to build their future and gotten rid of the Rendon contract to use that money for other guys. It made so much sense.
Now, they will lose Ohtani and be stuck with Rendon. Gotta feel bad for Trout.
Even if they resign ohtani for 60 million a year they still have have over 30 million to play with until reaching the luxury tax. Especially if you backload ohtanis contract and restructure Trouts contract you can have 90-100 million to spend and they’re team guys I’m sure trout wouldn’t mind getting paid less for three years when the rendon contract is up
I remember tuning into the Nats games in 2019 and watching Rendon rake. However, I’ll always be a firm believer that Gerardo Parra is the reason they won it all
I really wanted the Rangers to sign him back when he was a FA. Josh Jung was still years away from fully developing and he could've been a great piece at 3rd. They only offered him a 6 year contract with a option for the 7th year.
Looking back, I am VERY glad he didn't sign with the Rangers. Jung has been great so far and the Rangers used the money to sign Seager and Semien.
It's honestly really sad to see, I'm a fan who only really watches my team, but Rendon was one of my favorite players to watch around the league. The way that the dude just GOLFS balls out of the park is beautiful, just wish I could see it more often
In his defense with the media, the reporters do ask a lot of dumb ass questions.
7:29 watched this live, got the alert from the mlb app that detmers had a no hitter going so i threw the game on and this was the first play i saw lmao
As a lifelong Angels fans, we are known for signing horrendous contracts. Josh Hamilton, Albert Pujols, CJ Wilson, Anthony Rendon, and so on. If you’re over 30 years old and need a 7+ year backend loaded contract you will be getting a call from us.
Sad but true!!
The Arizona Cardinals used to be like this (still like this?) They'd always sign really old, past their prime players. The Rockies also sign a lot of older, past their prime players. Matt Kemp was on the Rockies as recently as the late 2010s or so. He was great on the Dodgers but I have no idea why the Rockies signed him.
I loved Rendon @ WSH! I was sad to see him go at the time. I still hope he can muster some kind of productive run before he's retired
Stephen A Smith knows as much about sports as my 12-year-old son knows advanced calculus. Which is to say little. Stephen A Smith knows as much about major-league baseball as my eight year old daughter knows molecular science, which is to say none.
Par for the course for the angels. They love bad contracts.
This aged well after his recent comments, dude is a bum
All he said was he prioritizes his family over baseball. Nothing wrong with that!
@@sirfallsalot2000 But it's a weak comment, that goes without saying for 99.9% of MLB players, hell people in general. He can prioritize his family without using it as an excuse for why he has been awful
I met Rendon in Pittsburgh while he was playing for the Nats. Honestly couldnt have been nicer. I also didnt ask him for an autograph or anything so that could have also made the situation better for me lol
I've been thinking about this for a while, do you think Ohtani regrets signing with the Angels? He wasn't someone drafted, he could have picked.
I personally believe so that he regrets his decision. And I also feel he doesn't have much respect for Arte Mereno either. It's fairly obvious the Angels were never serious about creating a winning/championship culture in Anaheim. Ohtani probably realizes now, to not only win, but also get ultimate respect, he needs to be on an elite franchise big market team. No one cares how well you do in low pressure Anaheim...can you do it in high pressure New York, Boston, L.A. Dodgers, St. Louis, etc.
Nah, the Angels were the only team in the bidding at the time to take his desire to play two-way seriously. Even if he ended up in the NL, he would've just been seen the same way as Michael Lorenzen when he was pushing the Reds to let him play two-way. In a weird way, Ohtani needed the Angels and their desire to market him as a two-way player to get the chance he deserved. Now he has proven his abilities and can take them wherever he desires.
@@T_K7false. they payed him league minimum because he was an international rookie. The dude was cheap most team would have allowed him two way duties as long as they weren't already a serious world series contender. He chose the Angels because he wanted to play for an underdog team to help turn the team around. How is that working out for ohtani...lmao
@@phuckfumassters If he wanted an underdog team that bad he would've gone with the Mariners when they tried courting him over (there's still fans that believe he'll come here in 2024 because of that lol). No one in the MLB other than the Reds and maybe the Rays were even toying with the idea of two-way play at the time.
Also, he was not an international free agent but an international amateur due to his age, which meant teams had to spend from their very limited international amateur signing bonus pools to get him. Ohtani ended up getting about $2.3M compared to a roughly $3.6M allocation for each team that year, so yes, there was bidding over him since teams had other high profile int. amateurs they wished to sign.
@@T_K7 Mariners? You really think Ohtani wants to play under the shadows of the great Ichiro Suzuki? You basically made my point about him being an international rookie only allowed league minimum pay. I said the same thing. Only he knows why he chose the Angels. The Angels being the only team allowing two way duties is misleading and not true. Angels fans somehow make this claim so they can convince themselves that Ohtani should remain loyal to the Angels.
Anthony Frail-done😊
This team has been cursed since Arte Moreno lied to Torii Hunter , he told him there was no money to resign him but he went out and gave Josh Hamilton 125 million
THANK YOU! Finally a video on this.
Jolly working on his big time TV audition, nice vid man
I feel like there’s a chance he’s DFA’ed before his contract is over, say in either year 6-7
He turned down the Dodgers' offer to sign with the Angels. That was great for the Dodgers.
Jolly, you have to do a weekly Stephen A. Smith highlight reel when he’s trying to talk about baseball 3:48😂
Great video on Rendon! A typical Angels FA mega deal signing & that results in the player underperforming/getting injured
It really is. As an angels fan it hurts watching him play and just get injured all the time and he also thinks he has had nothing to prove. He can go his contract is a waste the only reason we signed this guy was because cole laughed at us when we tried to sign him so Moreno wanted to sign rendon for the sake of just signing someone the writing was on the wall with rendon a guy who was going to be over 30 and had injury problems before that
Nationals legend. Sad to see his career go like this
As an Angels fan, I said at the time it gave me Mo Vaughn/Josh Hamilton vibes. Instead, it's been worse than I imagined it could've been.
Just brutal.
Great video, Jolly. As a Braves fan, I know you hate the my team, but I'm a big fan of your work. Cheers my friend.
I'm glad this thug is hurt all the time. Sucks he got paid tho. Thug doesn't deserve any of that money.
Angels are one of the few teams that rival the Mets for bad luck and awful contracts given
Padres right now have some disaster contracts
The guy is a competitor, but at some point he broke down mentally from all the injuries and pressure of expectations from his big contract. It is truly a sad story.
let's also be honest, there should be repercussions for the Angels from MLB for signing him after his inflated 2019 campaign. In fact the league should get something for that considering what everyone essentially knows to be the case about the balls in play during that season.
Rendon had two great seasons with the Nats before the Angeles acquired him. Can't blame them, it was just bad luck.
I think a cool video idea could be something to the effect of the weirdest dfa’s/ releases in baseball history, or recent history
Yo, Jolly Olive...you the man! Great video!
It is like the Nationals in that 2019 just blew up after on former players, current players, and the teams staff have been all over the place since 2019.
Big fan of him on the Nationals, since going over to the enemies territory I enjoy seeing this unfold, Go Ms!!
See this why I feel like he’s going to get demoted or traded vs Shohei Ohtani to the east if Shohei Ohtani gets traded it’s going to be to a west team
It is absolutely insane to pay a baseball player that kind of money. Any single player just doesn't make that much of a difference..
angels are cursed :(
Rendon is a bum, moose has done more for the angels franchise in two months than rendon has done in 4 years with the team
Moose is amazing
I went to an Angels game earlier this year. Rendon wasn't at the game, but what was interesting is he's not even marketed. I don't think I saw his face anywhere at the stadium. It's like they want everyone to forget he's on the team.
Yo I love your videos, you should do one one either Shin Soo Choo or Travis Hafner
It seems like everyone but Soto went through it after the 2019 season. Like either injuries or just bad performance or both
As an Angels fan, the juxtaposition of the signing is the other big free agents available that summer. Namely Gerritt Cole who the Angels were reportedly a finalist for signing before he signed with NYY
The Angels have zero leadership. The same old front office has zero idea what to do.
If Anthony doesn't fix his problems and emotions, sorry, but you gotta be fired
3:58 this is the best take hes ever had
I was just thinking about this contact yesterday thinking how good it looked at the time and now he has almost disappeared