You missed showing the most crucial part of this bow making, bending it against it's natural curve and stringing it. That's why it's called a recurve bow..
Mongol bows can be horse bows and they can also be infantry bows. Bows can be D shaped, recurved, reflexed, or both recurved and reflexed. Mongol and Chinese bows that are composites are usually both recurved and reflexed.
I've heard that one Khan shot an arrow over 1200 meters. Turkish, Scythian, Slavic, Indian and Middle Eastern composite bows can fire up to 800 meters if the bow was well made.
that + horses allowed them to conquer a percentage of the planet and kill around 2000 heavy knights in Poland !, if they managed to use chinese-made siege machines and destroy castles, they could have reached Portugal...
They obviously didn't have a time to wait so long for filming of the whole process of making in the scenes thus I believe several cores were prepared in order to show basic things to average viewer. That's documentary not manual for making Mongol bow, editors choose cuts without asking 😊 I like how it was done.
The manchurian bow is much larger compared to the earlier mongol bow, the one shows here seems to be a mongol bow and not what the mongols adopted after the manchurians took over
@@MomoHat123 string bridges, usually heavier, different shooting method. Not sure why they assumed it was actually Manchurian, the two bow types and styles are very different
simple physics mate - same pondage bows the composite will be faster because of the shape ( it "gives" the power to the arrow faster ) but even if it is 10-15 fps difference it is not a base for what is best/better. There are more and proper metrics for what suits your army, shooting needs, preferences etc.
Chronograph data are everywhere, since Stephen Selby first studies. A Manchu 80 pounds bow outperform a self-bow of 110 pounds using the same arrow. That's not chauvinism or misplaced pride, it's just a more efficient (and more recent) way to make bows the same way a modern fiberglass bow outperform those horn and sinew ones.
There isn't anything wrong with longbows. Just because it's simpler to make doesn't make it worse. They just have different needs. Longbows were quicker to make, easier to maintain, and could be supplied to thousands of people much easier than a composite reflex bow. Mounted archery is much more difficult on a longbow than a horse bow. It is true however that reflex bows are that much more efficient than longbows. Arab archery, a manuscript dating 1500, is an excellent source material about the nature of composite reflex bows regardless of country and ethnicity. In terms of contest, if we're comparing which is better for purely distance. The longbow shoots around 350-450 yards depending how heavy the arrow. The composite bow ( let's use Turkish context here) can shoot between 400 to as far as 950 yds in flight archery* using an overdraw system called a madra. 950 yards sounds unbelievable but 600-700 Yds is more than achievable (Turkish, Arab, Manchurian, Korean confirmed sources). In terms of power, If it’s to hit a knight in plate with the heaviest arrow possible, it’s a toss up. But the longbow can do that job almost as well with much less cost in time and resources before, during, and after it’s made which is a nice feature if you need to create a regiment of archers as soon as you can. This isn't a matter of national pride of which bow is better, it's a matter of a country's priorities for war.
The modern Mongol composite bow is not the original type used by the Mongols. It is actually modeled on the Manchu composite bow. When the Manchus conquered China and Mongol during the 1600s, they decreed that only their bow design be the standardized bow design. There are depictions of pre-1600s old Mongol bow design. It is a much smaller bow without the large siyahs, prominent string bridges and a long draw length. Of all the composite bow design, the Manchu bow is the biggest in size as shooting the largest and most massive of arrows with maximum kinetic energy is the objective.
Nah. The Mongols were mostly a Mongolic people but also had Tuekic speakers. The modern Turks of Turkey have long since lost their Turkic roots and ancestry and are more European than anything. The ancient Turkic peoples look like East Asians and originated around northern China and Mongolia.
That bow like AK47 during Mongol steppe warrior campaign
More like ar 15
While English longbow is the ak 47
It’s always a pleasure to see professionals in action! 🥰
I have enjoyed this video a lot!
Thank you so much for sharing! 🙏🙏
Ayyyy it's Justin Ma!
Very nice video !
Well done sir. Craftsmanship!’ I like the end cap things.
You missed showing the most crucial part of this bow making, bending it against it's natural curve and stringing it. That's why it's called a recurve bow..
reflex*, horsebows are composite reflex bows
also, it' not part of the bow "making"
@@dustf1nger118 mongol bows are composite recurve bows not reflex..
Mongol bows can be horse bows and they can also be infantry bows. Bows can be D shaped, recurved, reflexed, or both recurved and reflexed. Mongol and Chinese bows that are composites are usually both recurved and reflexed.
I bet it drives Justin crazy that they used a slow motion shot of him collapsing on the release. I do respect him as the best, just saying.
yep, slowed down the video - saw it and was "Man he will be pissed"
Considered the best of historic bow technology, firing up to 400-500 yards!
I've heard that one Khan shot an arrow over 1200 meters. Turkish, Scythian, Slavic, Indian and Middle Eastern composite bows can fire up to 800 meters if the bow was well made.
Masallah yasasin atalarimis❤
Headmaster Justin Ma! And Headmaster Jie Tian!
First type of bow when I was eight years young.
AR 15 of the medieval era
does Novotny teach classes? I would love to learn to build these bows!
that + horses allowed them to conquer a percentage of the planet and kill around 2000 heavy knights in Poland !, if they managed to use chinese-made siege machines and destroy castles, they could have reached Portugal...
So friken cool
Konu okçuluksa, Türkler en iyileridir.
the core of the bow when you want to connect the 3 parts seems different from the core that horns and sinew will attach to..
I think
They obviously didn't have a time to wait so long for filming of the whole process of making in the scenes thus I believe several cores were prepared in order to show basic things to average viewer. That's documentary not manual for making Mongol bow, editors choose cuts without asking 😊 I like how it was done.
the Koreans call it "Gak-Kung".
Is it Mongol bow or Manchuria bow?
The manchurian bow is much larger compared to the earlier mongol bow, the one shows here seems to be a mongol bow and not what the mongols adopted after the manchurians took over
@@MomoHat123 string bridges, usually heavier, different shooting method. Not sure why they assumed it was actually Manchurian, the two bow types and styles are very different
Everybody says the horn/sinew recurve bows where faster then long bows, chronograph data please.
simple physics mate - same pondage bows the composite will be faster because of the shape ( it "gives" the power to the arrow faster ) but even if it is 10-15 fps difference it is not a base for what is best/better. There are more and proper metrics for what suits your army, shooting needs, preferences etc.
Chronograph data are everywhere, since Stephen Selby first studies.
A Manchu 80 pounds bow outperform a self-bow of 110 pounds using the same arrow.
That's not chauvinism or misplaced pride, it's just a more efficient (and more recent) way to make bows the same way a modern fiberglass bow outperform those horn and sinew ones.
There isn't anything wrong with longbows. Just because it's simpler to make doesn't make it worse. They just have different needs. Longbows were quicker to make, easier to maintain, and could be supplied to thousands of people much easier than a composite reflex bow. Mounted archery is much more difficult on a longbow than a horse bow. It is true however that reflex bows are that much more efficient than longbows. Arab archery, a manuscript dating 1500, is an excellent source material about the nature of composite reflex bows regardless of country and ethnicity.
In terms of contest, if we're comparing which is better for purely distance. The longbow shoots around 350-450 yards depending how heavy the arrow. The composite bow ( let's use Turkish context here) can shoot between 400 to as far as 950 yds in flight archery* using an overdraw system called a madra. 950 yards sounds unbelievable but 600-700 Yds is more than achievable (Turkish, Arab, Manchurian, Korean confirmed sources).
In terms of power, If it’s to hit a knight in plate with the heaviest arrow possible, it’s a toss up. But the longbow can do that job almost as well with much less cost in time and resources before, during, and after it’s made which is a nice feature if you need to create a regiment of archers as soon as you can.
This isn't a matter of national pride of which bow is better, it's a matter of a country's priorities for war.
The modern Mongol composite bow is not the original type used by the Mongols. It is actually modeled on the Manchu composite bow. When the Manchus conquered China and Mongol during the 1600s, they decreed that only their bow design be the standardized bow design. There are depictions of pre-1600s old Mongol bow design. It is a much smaller bow without the large siyahs, prominent string bridges and a long draw length. Of all the composite bow design, the Manchu bow is the biggest in size as shooting the largest and most massive of arrows with maximum kinetic energy is the objective.
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How so?
bruh this is short as fuck
...and founded by Türks , dont forget and always remember...
Nah. The Mongols were mostly a Mongolic people but also had Tuekic speakers. The modern Turks of Turkey have long since lost their Turkic roots and ancestry and are more European than anything. The ancient Turkic peoples look like East Asians and originated around northern China and Mongolia.
cheaply made aoe4 scene. chinese actors instead of real mongolians
Cap thats wrong im mongoilan and a am seen hiw mongol bow was made tahts fucking wrong