3 SECRET Pokémon in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet That You Don't Get to See

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
  • Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are filled with lots of brand new Pokemon, but there also a few secret ones hiding within it's depths that we don't get a chance to see! In this video, we will be covering these secret Pokemon, where in the game they originate, and whether or not we will actually get a chance to see them someday! I hope you enjoy!
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  • @AceRide
    @AceRide Год назад +775

    I think Greavard could theoretically be reborn from any dog-like Pokémon, not necessarily a single species. There's a book in the academy's entrance hall that talks about Ryme, and how her "Puppy Pokémon" (a category shared by a number of Pokémon) came back to her as a ghost type after she wrote a song in his memory. Sure enough, she has a Greavard named DJ G-Rave who she won't send into battle.

    • @Fenriskoll
      @Fenriskoll Год назад +65

      This is what I think as well. It doesn't specifically say unknown dog pokemon, just that it died without knowing human love.

    • @sado2692
      @sado2692 Год назад +16

      Thats a great name

    • @Fake_Pep
      @Fake_Pep Год назад +27

      Greavard's Evo, houndstone, has the same ability as the stoutland from the anime, so greavard might be stoutland's old evo

    • @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786
      @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786 Год назад +50

      DJ G-Rave must be the Greavard vibing on top of that huge speaker during the gym battle when all the Houndstone popped out of the ground. I have no proof, but I have no doubts either.

    • @keturahwilson3366
      @keturahwilson3366 Год назад +9

      I was thinking myself that Greavard looks like Hisuian Growlithe

  • @kylebartlett9683
    @kylebartlett9683 Год назад +127

    I took greavard's dex entry to be more open ended and apply to all dog Pokemon. If a herdier dies without human contact it becomes a greavard, rockruff dies it becomes greavard, tamper becomes greavard, etc

  • @jhuawong4289
    @jhuawong4289 Год назад +258

    Rotom loses its Ghost type when it enters an appliance. I think Varoom could be a Gastly possessing the engine as they are also everywhere here in Paldea.

    • @ErdingerLi
      @ErdingerLi Год назад +28

      And it being a Gas Pokémon makes so much more sense too.. think you're on to something

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio Год назад +23

      Yeah, it's curious how a living Poison-type Pokemon could somehow inhabit an inanimate object and possess it. But a Ghost-type that's also Poison? Gastly.

    • @spamtong.spamton8416
      @spamtong.spamton8416 Год назад +3

      That was always my assumption too.

    • @nocturneflamme2790
      @nocturneflamme2790 Год назад +7

      I was about to leave a comment about Varoom and Gastly, myself :)

    • @lordofgingers
      @lordofgingers Год назад +1

      I somehow got a Perserker. Dunno how.

  • @ja1295
    @ja1295 Год назад +83

    Scarlet and violet are the most fun ive had with a pokemon game other than Legends

    • @hashem1990rko
      @hashem1990rko Год назад +7

      Despite how bugy they are😅, it's true 👍

    • @ionryful
      @ionryful Год назад +2

      ​@@hashem1990rko Glitches make it better! I love BLJ!

    • @BreadGhost_
      @BreadGhost_ Год назад

      I agree

    • @ja1295
      @ja1295 Год назад +3

      @@hashem1990rko me personally i havent had the glitched i see people sayjng they have (i think half of em are just tryna break the game so they can complain) but i do get the frame rate drops which GF should be able to patch

    • @Hollobaby1231
      @Hollobaby1231 Год назад

      same bro, i even seen someone say moving it from the storage device to the actual console makes it run a tad better and it’s true, i tried it and nothing crazy but deff a little smoother

  • @marionberrymarionette482
    @marionberrymarionette482 Год назад +189

    The Secret Terrestrial Pokémon is also mentioned in the Violet/Scarlett book in the entrance hall at the school. It's not named there either, but it is described with glitchy text and I'm pretty sure based on the context clues that it is called "The Disk Pokémon"

    • @jaidenkoch3487
      @jaidenkoch3487 Год назад +5

      Yeah the professors description of the Pokémon is similar to scarlets books description and we get a rough idea of what it could look like as both professor and the author of the books encountered them in area zero

    • @lianaverwood9810
      @lianaverwood9810 Год назад +18

      @@jaidenkoch3487 Well, Professor Heath *is* the Author of the Book, and 'The Disk Pokémon' depicted within was sketched from a Dream he had while injured and unconscious, after being separated from the rest of the Expedition Team.
      The Sketch depicts a creature known as *a Tarrasque,* an infamous Boss Monster _in D&D Circles,_ with Real-World Origins in *the Folklore of Southern France* - right between the In-game _Kalos and Paldea Regions!_

    • @OllyMay95
      @OllyMay95 Год назад +5

      I came to coment this, there's also a sketch of it that I'm surprised wasn't included in this video! We know so far it's a disk pokemon, has a shell with hexagons and has six letters in its name!

    • @thejim8765
      @thejim8765 Год назад +7

      Yeah I came to say this too. The hexagon plate Pokémon. The picture looks like a bit like a turtle. The entry in the book says:
      “While separated from the research team in the creator’s depths, I found a strange…entity. Weather it was a Pokémon, or even alive at all, I know not. It bore a shell with layers of overlapping hexagons, and gleamed brighter than gemstone. Viewed as a whole, it resembled a mysterious, brilliant disk.”

    • @ValunarTonix
      @ValunarTonix Год назад +7

      @@lianaverwood9810 ....roll for initiative.
      Jokes aside, I'm VERY afraid now to go to the north east of the map, since Iron Treads/Great Tusk managed to escape Area Zero and ended up in the desert.
      Our lovely tarrasque might be on that unclimbable mountain >.>

  • @vapcr
    @vapcr Год назад +333

    I would LOVE more paradox forms. In particular, I’m holding out hope for some love to Tropius. Would love to see maybe an ancient form grass/dragon type!

    • @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786
      @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786 Год назад +21

      Or maybe a future form grass/electric (a power plant :v)

    • @vapcr
      @vapcr Год назад +34

      @@martinalbertomoraleslopez3786 Iron Banana 😂😂😂

    • @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786
      @martinalbertomoraleslopez3786 Год назад +4

      @@vapcr With that name I just think about a robo-minion.

    • @justalizard7192
      @justalizard7192 Год назад +13

      Be awesome to see all the Fossil pokemon become their Pure form, no longer having the rock typing or be a mixture of to Fossil pokemon like Dracovish and Dracozolt.

    • @gab4198
      @gab4198 Год назад +5

      @@justalizard7192 maybe the rock type was already their pure form the entire time, they are ancient from a time were there was no steel and humans were much less developed if they existed at all, the rock type just screams "old things" for them and that may be it, aerodactyl did get an mega form and it was still a rock type after all but it would be awesome if it happned. Megas are based on how the pokemon looked in the distant past when they were more wild and feral and had to battle to survive all the time, to the point that the paradox past salamance is based on his mega evolution, it would be awesome if by some means in a dlc we get to see more paradox pokemons who are based on pokemons who may mega evolve or they bring back megas for the dlc all together (maybe by equiping the mega stone the pokemon will use the energy to mega evolve instead of terastalizing and tha is how they limit them to balance the game.

  • @ScorbunGame
    @ScorbunGame Год назад +151

    I fully expect the secrets of Area Zero and the Pokemon responsible for Terralistiztion to be the focus of Scarlet and Violet's eventual DLC. There's a ton of things we just don't know about Area Zero, such as why it feels like a completely different world.

    • @timgorg1919
      @timgorg1919 Год назад +7

      I want Kalos and probably some old characters like the Kalos Protagonists

    • @FTChomp9980
      @FTChomp9980 Год назад +13

      I believe that to for the DLC as well.
      Plus the area in the Paldea Map I believe will be part of the DLC to that is by the Fighting Team Star Base.

    • @AceRide
      @AceRide Год назад +13

      I staring to wonder if there will be two parts to the DLC, like there were for Sword & Shield. A more laid back one releasing in the summer, set the grayed-out area to the northeast, and a more plot-heavy one in the winter focusing on Area Zero

    • @timgorg1919
      @timgorg1919 Год назад +7

      @@AceRide Yeah, one with all the story the third legendary and all and one with Kalos. (I want see Red once again, but Calem or Serena would be cool too. Like Calem is champion now and Serena owns probably Zygarde. Probably we will get the story with Pokemon Z and when I say Pokemon Z I don't care about Zygarde, I want the Lumiose Girl and the writing on the backside on the train station. Also some cool plot twist would be nice. Like professor platan is the father of Florian and Juliana. Or Calem and Serena are. Or MissingNo will come back. I'm pretty sure my hopes are too big, but at least something would be nice. I mean they did it with Kanto in Gen 2. A whole postgame second region.

    • @gee1271
      @gee1271 Год назад +11

      Right! My main question is what happens in the future that causes pokemon to be purely mechanical? And seemingly man made? I’m loving this darker pokemon and i hope it gets darker

  • @hoodiepikachu3543
    @hoodiepikachu3543 Год назад +120

    i think in the scarlet/violet book there is a picture of what could be the pokemon that Hoops mentioned first. it makes me believe that the DLC could contain MAJOR adventure in the crater.

    • @AceRide
      @AceRide Год назад +15

      According to Bulbapedia, there are also sketches of Pokémon who look like they might be new Paradox additions to the Legendary Beasts & Swords of Justice

    • @sb6196
      @sb6196 Год назад +10

      @@AceRide The game says the artist of the scarlet/violet book was inspired by the future/ancient Pokemon and decided to sketch their own one. The sketches aren't real Pokemon just the artist making a sketch for fun.

    • @rafdeandrade
      @rafdeandrade Год назад +10

      Can confirm both of those. The books can be read in the game. They are in the right book shelf pillar of the academy.

    • @FTChomp9980
      @FTChomp9980 Год назад +12

      @SB619 Paradox Suicune and Virison will be in the DLC because in the game when the Data Miners data mined it the codes for them are in just that they are replaced with Pikachu I guarantee next year we will most likely be able to catch them along with the 3rd Legendary Pokemon.

    • @sb6196
      @sb6196 Год назад

      @@FTChomp9980 do you have a source for that?

  • @seancurbow8146
    @seancurbow8146 Год назад +131

    Based off what we saw in PLA, Quaxly’s third stage is most likely the regional variant to its original region. Perhaps a another type based off the dancing traditions of its origin.

    • @RadenWA
      @RadenWA Год назад +12

      Considering it’s based on the Carnival, the region might be the equivalent to Brazil.

    • @amyrose4ever157
      @amyrose4ever157 Год назад +1

      Genuinely curious, what was in PLA?

    • @amesstarline5482
      @amesstarline5482 Год назад +2

      @@amyrose4ever157 Regional variants of final starter forms.

    • @tobymayo6226
      @tobymayo6226 Год назад +1

      @@RadenWA agree since is also a Spanish Portuguese country

    • @blackmark2899
      @blackmark2899 Год назад

      I agree with this.

  • @Tatertot6090
    @Tatertot6090 Год назад +4

    In the academy you can literally read the scarlet/violet book and there is a page showing the third legendary

  • @lightningwolf788
    @lightningwolf788 Год назад +198

    I think Terasq would be a good fit for the Terastalizing Pokemon, based on the Tarrasque, a dragon from myth and one of the most legendary monsters in D&D, often depucted with an indestructible hide/shell. It would be an amazing legendary, especially with the proximity France has to Spain/Portugal.

    • @fuecOHKO
      @fuecOHKO Год назад +4

      Depucted should be a word tbh

    • @paintspot
      @paintspot Год назад +6

      Oh my goodness, what an INCREDIBLE name idea! Now I'm REALLY hoping it's named that.
      -Paintspot Infez
      Wasabi!

    • @IbbickYT
      @IbbickYT Год назад +4

      And it supposedly has diamonds in it’s shell depending on wether the DM likes their party

    • @KegorianRune
      @KegorianRune Год назад +3

      I do wonder if it has anything to do with that strange pokemon, disc(sphere?) thing mentioned in the Scarlet/Violet Books in the Academy entrance hall, as that is the only page with redacted (or smudged) text outside of the book found in that one way station... :/

    • @belphy205
      @belphy205 Год назад +4

      *Sounds of Martha’s punching in the distance*

  • @aquinprime
    @aquinprime Год назад +30

    2:36 it is possible that the name is actually 12 characters long. In the violet book it has a page on this mysterious pokemon and each square on the page covers two letters. For those looking for the book it's in the school lobby in the pillar bookshelf on the right

    • @Fractal98
      @Fractal98 Год назад +1

      There was even one instance that had three letters for a single block. I can't think of the exact point but I definitely remember noticing the difference. TPC definitely made it hard for us to guess anything though.

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander Год назад

      @@Fractal98 yeah I tried to see if there was some simple code hidden there so I wrote out the blocked letters. While most are two letters, I think there were two triples and multiple singles. I couldn't make any sense of it, though
      D ok mo
      Ar rc
      Th
      tr ti
      po n a e
      O t he
      Ve xa
      Me ht ge
      We emb
      Ter br i

  • @Rikarikun
    @Rikarikun Год назад +6

    Man wouldn’t it be funny if the third version legendary was the terastilizing origin and debuted in the anime first

  • @the_falcon0power150
    @the_falcon0power150 Год назад +51

    Another secret Pokémon mentioned would be the Pterosaur that supposedly died to become Flutter Mane in ancient times. Can't wait to see the fanart people make!

    • @Dan-xy4iq
      @Dan-xy4iq Год назад +1

      How you know

    • @DavidReyes-mq6wp
      @DavidReyes-mq6wp Год назад

      SPOILER
      the pterosaur never existed, the paradox pokemon are all rumors from tabloid magazines and the professors imagination that came to life by the disk pokemon

  • @Jayakrishnantr5217
    @Jayakrishnantr5217 Год назад +25

    The third legendary which is the origin of the terastal phenomenon is supposed to be a Faberge Egg like being. This might actually just be it's dormant state since most of the third legendaries or trio masters that Pokemon have revealed in the past few generations have had a second form that's not initially revealed to us. Like complete Zygarde, ultra Necrozma, eternamax Eternatus etc. So this particular Pokemon could be an egg that hatches or transforms into something else at full power.

    • @TheTetsuHai
      @TheTetsuHai Год назад +4

      Speaking of Zygarde, anyone else notice that Kalos and Paldea are connected and Zygarde is composed of Organic Hexagons while this Terrastral pokemon is composed of Crystal Hexagons?

    • @Jayakrishnantr5217
      @Jayakrishnantr5217 Год назад +2

      @@TheTetsuHai that's so true. I hope in the lore we get connections to kalos

    • @CoachCarter94
      @CoachCarter94 Год назад +1

      What do you think about the indigo disk dlc?? Looks like you were pretty spot on! It’s like fabrege egg in the shape of a turtle I feel like

    • @Jayakrishnantr5217
      @Jayakrishnantr5217 Год назад

      @@CoachCarter94 I'm thinking there's gonna be another form that we haven't yet seen. It's also interesting how Terapagos looks like the map of paldea. So this could potentially be one of the if not the largest Pokemon we've ever seen.

  • @Kraiglyndor
    @Kraiglyndor Год назад +8

    I read the book that mentioned the dog coming back as a ghost early on and kept expecting Arvin’s Mabostiff to die and become a Houndstone

  • @nicholasboyington1580
    @nicholasboyington1580 Год назад +28

    The terrastilization book could be mentioning Zygard. There's a lot of hints in the pokedex that this takes place in a world with Mega Evos.

    • @TheTetsuHai
      @TheTetsuHai Год назад +5

      It could be the brother/sister to Zygarde, Kalos and Paldea are connected in the North Eastern Corner and when they dsicribe the hexagons the first thing I thought was that Zygarde is composed of Organic Hexagons while this pokemon seems to be made of Crystal Hexagons, to me it screams connection especially with how close the two regions are and how far underground Zygarde is found in X and Y.

    • @snowybeefrblx8748
      @snowybeefrblx8748 Год назад +3

      Maybe a paradox zygarde, then?

    • @blackoutgaming6394
      @blackoutgaming6394 Год назад +1

      @@TheTetsuHai could be diancie as well, it's basically made of crystals and I'm pretty sure it has a mega evolution as well in which it grows more crystals. I'd like to see an in-depth conspiracy into all of the likely candidates of this.

  • @mushroom4466
    @mushroom4466 Год назад +37

    The first Terastal related Pokemon is actually hinted further in a copy of the Scarlet / Violet book seen in the Main Hall of the academy, stuck in a bookshelf. It's one of the last pages, the one with all the blanks in it. There's also a hint to a potential fusion of the Legendary Beasts!

    • @jacobhull4691
      @jacobhull4691 Год назад +2

      I believe the Pokémon in the book you mentioned looks more like the Swords of Justice

    • @dr._D
      @dr._D Год назад +9

      @@jacobhull4691 that is the imagined pokemon in violet. I hear in scarlet it resembles a fusion of the legendary dogs.

    • @mushroom4466
      @mushroom4466 Год назад +1

      @@jacobhull4691 I played Scarlet, so maybe a version difference

    • @jaredhamilton425
      @jaredhamilton425 Год назад +9

      From what I’ve gathered, Scarlet gets a legendary beast paradox fusion while Violet gets a swords of justice paradox fusion.

    • @jacobhull4691
      @jacobhull4691 Год назад +2

      I appreciate that as fans of the games we can come together to gather a lot of information on what is to come in the future

  • @SnakesAnimations
    @SnakesAnimations Год назад +18

    I have a theory: The first secret pokemon you mention may actually be Arceus, or somehow related to it.
    The name has 6 characters like the text boxes, it mentions "hexagonal plates" and while in the games the plates are rectangular, the Jewel of Life movie displays the plates as hexagonal with a similar texture to the terastal crystal stuff. Finally, the plates give arceus a specific type like how tera types work. Also, the time stuff makes sense because Dialga controls time and Arceus is the creator of Dialga.
    However, it does describe an interlocking "shell" so perhaps its another form of Arceus, or alternatively another legendary created directly by Arceus

    • @cynthia4659
      @cynthia4659 Год назад +5

      what if its minior, the face looks the same, 6 letters and has hexagonal shell

    • @brandonfulstone7628
      @brandonfulstone7628 Год назад +3

      I would like to say that it's the latter. And if there is gonna be a DLC/expansion, we might discover that Legendary in it. (just a theory)

    • @fuecOHKO
      @fuecOHKO Год назад

      Cool theory also I'm 13th like :)

    • @dr._D
      @dr._D Год назад +5

      The pokemon behind terastalization is a disc shape and its unclear if it is truly a pokemon, as it is often described as an entity, not a pokemon. It is only referred to as a pokemon in the scarlet/violet book in the title of the section

    • @dr._D
      @dr._D Год назад +4

      Also, it is probably an extraterrestrial pokemon, as it is found in the crater specifically, which was obviously created by some sort of impact from a celestial object. Whether or not there was actually a meteor or it was the disc pokemon(the crater is very nearly perfectly round) would be impossible to say.

  • @inshaneguy
    @inshaneguy Год назад +15

    Quaxly's is a reference to the fact Quaquaval is a peacock, although it was because royalty brought Peacocks to Spain rather than migrated.

  • @VileKaizer
    @VileKaizer Год назад +11

    What's far more interesting to me, personally, is the strange origins of the "original" paradox Pokemon. The professor's time machine is said to be the source of them leading into the end game, but we know fairly earlier that the original exploration team sent to Area Zero encountered them as well... 190 years prior to the professor's excursion.

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage Год назад +2

      My headcanon for this is some of the pokeballs sent returned at the wrong time and the Pokemon escaped.

    • @Rprot_traveler
      @Rprot_traveler Год назад

      @@rhodrage that is a cool idea didnt thougth of that... but why would they not be there when the professor arrived?

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage Год назад

      @@Rprot_traveler For the sad reason that, Pokemon die.

  • @bluebutterfly590
    @bluebutterfly590 Год назад +28

    I feel like the Varoom one is maybe a Ghastly or Gengar? It says a poison type possessed it. To me a ghost type would easily do that. And Gengar is Poison Ghost

    • @Donproductions
      @Donproductions Год назад +3

      That’s what I was thinking especially with the word used “inspirit”

    • @thenevermarearmy7105
      @thenevermarearmy7105 Год назад

      I think it was a karbink like situation whith rotom

  • @spinosauraus
    @spinosauraus Год назад +16

    The Pokedex says that the fire bird that sits on Skeledirge's head has its own soul, so it technically should be considered another pokemon.

  • @michaelolympus5994
    @michaelolympus5994 Год назад +8

    I just love that they are doing the Ultra Necrozma treatment but in a DLC way

    • @ogmechsftw
      @ogmechsftw Год назад

      Ultra scarlet and violet time? lol

  • @kylebartlett9683
    @kylebartlett9683 Год назад +11

    I could totally see Quaxley being the starter for another legends style game down the line, and maybe unlike the legends arceus starters Quaxley would actually originate from the region this game is set in

  • @tomasprochazka7840
    @tomasprochazka7840 Год назад +5

    How crazy would it be if the Terastal phenomenon was caused by Paradox Cryogonal lol

  • @HollowiiMarz
    @HollowiiMarz Год назад +1

    I love the Vroom line. Hope to see that origin poison type in the future!

  • @billiepotts1541
    @billiepotts1541 Год назад +5

    Glimmora’s relationship to terrastalizing is a lead for that Sada/Turo diary entry-the Violet dex suggests that they are related, it’s eyes are the ones on the tera jewels, it’s Geeta’s signature Pokémon, it’s found in Area Zero, and it matches the description. Whether or not it’s Glimmora itself, or just related to it, idk.

    • @AcidArrestB
      @AcidArrestB Год назад +1

      Prob a carbink and diance type beat

  • @DreamTiger5
    @DreamTiger5 Год назад +3

    We’re almost definitely going to encounter that first one at some point in a DLC. Personally hoping it’s a Dragon/Rock-type which would be perfectly fitting with the aesthetic and effect of Terastalization.

  • @gerryspringer5422
    @gerryspringer5422 Год назад +4

    You forgot to mention that arven shows us a picture of the third legendary though

  • @MoxiePoss
    @MoxiePoss Год назад +2

    For Greavard, it's evolution, Houndstone in the violet pokedex also says this "A lovingly mourned Pokémon was reborn as Houndstone. It doesn't like anyone touching the protuberance atop its head."

  • @IONATVS
    @IONATVS Год назад +2

    I will also point out that in the postgame Arven questline, you gain access to the Scarlet or Violet Book, and in it-specifically pointed out in the cutscene where you gain access to the book in fact-is another entry that appears to be about the first ‘mon you mentioned. Similar blocks of redacted text, though of seemingly random letters in the text, not the name itself as the author of the book makes no attempt to name it, accompanying an illustration of some kind of disk covered in hexagonal tiles with a decoration that could be interpreted as a tera crown.

  • @0OB08O
    @0OB08O Год назад +39

    I think Quaxly line is the standard form in the region it came from. Quaquaval seems to be inspired by "Carnaval". Also, Skeledirge seems to be inspired by Día de los Muertos. I think Meowscarada might be inspired by some holiday, but I have no idea which one, probably from either Iberian Peninsula or from another colony.

    • @springyb0i693
      @springyb0i693 Год назад +17

      I believe the distant land quaxly is from is a Brazil based region, as Brazil is famous for it's dancers.

    • @0OB08O
      @0OB08O Год назад +14

      @@springyb0i693 Me too. I'm a Brazilian myself, but I wish Brazil got more attention to geography and culture from other places besides Rio de Janeiro

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog Год назад +4

      It's most definitely not what it is but the only thing i can think of that ties to Meowscarada is masked festivals?
      I know that's a thing in some places that used to be spanish colonies because i live in one and we have a festival like that.
      Of course i dont think it's what that is but it does match the asthetic of Meowscarada pretty well.

    • @inshaneguy
      @inshaneguy Год назад +8

      Could also be an India inspired region because Quaquaval has peacock inspirations too. Which would also make sense because royalty brought over peacocks to Spain...and now there is a few areas that still have peacocks after generations.

    • @springyb0i693
      @springyb0i693 Год назад +9

      @@inshaneguy i mean, coppernaja was said to have come from a distant land as well, and it is based off of an Indian elephant

  • @jasonperlmutter7849
    @jasonperlmutter7849 Год назад +8

    Glimmora could fit (though not 6 letters) for the origin of terastilizing. Per violet pokedex: "Glimmora's petals are made of crystallized poison energy. It has recently become evident that these petals resemble Tera Jewels."

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage Год назад +1

      Glimmora could be like Carbink to Diancie.
      With the legend being related to Glimmora.

  • @Matthewsumarki
    @Matthewsumarki Год назад

    Thank god you've talked about this.. The first research lab journal was driving me crazy and noones talking about it othe than you lol.

  • @daydaytheplantgay
    @daydaytheplantgay Год назад +5

    I thought the secret tera Pokémon was just Glimmora because of the “hexagonal shell” & they are also used to get the TM for Tera blast… Maybe the secret legendary is a paradox form? Or variant like Diancie is to Carbink? 🤷

  • @attaug
    @attaug Год назад +4

    For the quaxly thing, a regional variant is a neat thing to think about. But as far back as Red and Blue the starters have been non-native to their regions. Some of the games, until the remakes (Fire Red and Leaf Green), make some mention of the starters being sent from "a friend/colleague" as an explanation as to why you can't catch them in the region you get them.
    Some games, notably remakes of older gens, forego this and sprinkle in the starters on some random route so that they can be acquired more easily. I wouldn't be surprised if Sprigatito and Fueccoco were from another region despite their dex entries not mentioning it. I feel the tidbit about Quaxly migrating over has to do with the fact many birds migrate for the winter/summer. It'd make sense for some to just settle or be caught in the regions they migrate to.
    I also think the first secret pokemon is actually going to be a variant of Zygarde. It is known for it's hexagonal cells, and has been shown to be in multiple forms depending on how many of it's cells have been gathered. If we accept this to be the case it would also make sense for the hexagonal crystals on the tera-crowns to be this speculative new zygarde form's cells. Yes, incomplete zygarde is known to be serpentine or canine but whose to say a new variant of it wouldn't be similar to a tortoise. In terms of the "six letter name" it could just be they used six "redacted" boxes to give themselves an out or obfuscate the pokemon's name. I believe it's the same number of boxes in each language that censors the name but I cannot check at current, it'd be interesting to look into the Japanese version and other language settings of the game to see how this one is spoken of. They could also use a renamed variant of Zygarde to fit the six letter name if they wanted to and, given what they did with Wigglet and Toedscool, I could see them calling it a new/different pokemon.
    In terms of the Varoom, I'd be interested to see what Pokemon they'd use to animate an inanimate scrapped engine. I also think it's good to temper expectations as if they ever did show what pokemon was the reason for its birth it could be an existing one. Saying "an unknown poison pokemon" could just mean that it's known a poison pokemon entered the scrapped engine and created Varooms but which one did so is the part that is unknown. If we go with this theory I'd say it could be part of the Gastly line, as they are poison pokemon and being a ghost as well they could realistically posses an inanimate object, potentially leading to the creation of a new pokemon species.
    These kinds of videos are super interesting, and even though I might sound like I'm attempting to counter your points I'm not, I'm simply offering alternate explanations as this video got me thinking about neat ways older pokemon could be reintroduced.

    • @Gwneenguy
      @Gwneenguy Год назад

      Zygarde idea would fit into the relation this game MAY! Have with XY... (in the form of dlc) pokemon Z at last?

    • @Rprot_traveler
      @Rprot_traveler Год назад

      Taking that Quaxly anf Fuecoco final evolution are based on countries outside of spain could be a hint that they inded were mot originally from Paldea.

  • @Sir_Uncle_Ned
    @Sir_Uncle_Ned Год назад +1

    I have to say, that mabostiff storyline was the best of the initial three. It showed that Pokemon can be hurt in ways a trip to the local deus ex machina pokemon centre can't fix. The whole game had surprisingly mature story elements dealing with themes not touched by any of the previous games. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Violet and look forward to starting a scarlet run.

  • @wasntwas
    @wasntwas Год назад +2

    At some point your shown a page of the scarlet book, and I remember reading about a round pokemon with the hexagonal plates, I don't remember when but I know we've been shown a drawing of it, although I doubt it's a very good one...

    • @wasntwas
      @wasntwas Год назад +1

      And also about how quaxly isn't from Paldea, none of the starters are, you can't find any of them in any form on Paldea, unless they're the ones you could have chosen.

  • @xavierperez6374
    @xavierperez6374 Год назад +3

    I also thought that the dark type dog Pokémon was going to be a punk chihuahua that evolved into a more demonic looking greyhound Pokémon instead of maschiff and mabosstiff, because the latter two don’t really look like dark type dogs to me

    • @twilightlorule
      @twilightlorule Год назад +1

      Theyre dark bc they have a violent disposition (like greavards evil smile in its night form) and are based on the sicilian mafia

  • @samm425
    @samm425 Год назад +3

    2:46 that's not totally true, in the glimmora dex in pokemon violet says "it's petals are made of crystallized poison energy, it has recently became evident that it's petals resembe tera crystals" i think that this secret pokemon may be the mysterious pokemon in the last page of the scarlet/violet book, and just like koraidon/miraidon is some kind of paradox Cyclizar, it may be a paradox glimmora

  • @kimberlyramin
    @kimberlyramin Год назад +1

    For the Maschief-Greavard connection, I think the main reason that the pokedex wouldn't specify that the dead dog pokemon was Maschief is because there's no way to prove it for certain, since it explicitly states the dead pokemon never met a human. Considering how difficult it is to avoid getting noticed by pokemon, it'd be next to impossible to monitor a Maschief until it died and became a Greavard without getting noticed.

  • @sharalightfelt91
    @sharalightfelt91 Год назад

    I thought I recognized Munch's footage, then I saw the name "RuPaul" on the Quaxly which completely confirmed it for me x3

  • @TheEphemeralEternity
    @TheEphemeralEternity Год назад +3

    I thought for sure there would be mention of the unknown, monstrous pokemon that messed Arven's Mabosstiff. While it can be assumed that it was a paradox pokemon given the location, there is no explanation of which one it may have been (if any of them).

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog Год назад

      I just assumed it was Koraidon/Miraidon who did that.

    • @jerelgayle3625
      @jerelgayle3625 Год назад +1

      DLC Mon most likely

    • @TheEphemeralEternity
      @TheEphemeralEternity Год назад +1

      @@Klonoahedgehog Arven mentioned that it was like nothing he'd ever encountered and barely looked like a pokemon. He doesn't like the box legends for "other reasons" which are revealed later, but it sounds like he could be describing an Ultra Beast (or more likely, some unknown paradox pokemon).

    • @sb6196
      @sb6196 Год назад

      @@TheEphemeralEternity The characters do describe the paradox Pokemon as being very odd questioning if they even are Pokemon so it's probably just one of them.

    • @TheEphemeralEternity
      @TheEphemeralEternity Год назад +1

      @@sb6196 that's what I thought to, but I find it just as odd then that we never confront whatever attacked Arven and Mabostiff then. I don't think it's my imagination here...the fact that we never see arven or mabostiff act nervous or defensive around any of the paradox-mons that we see, makes the whole thing feel very open ended.

  • @Chaserbeastofblades
    @Chaserbeastofblades Год назад +6

    I'm pretty sure Glimmora is the source of Terastal phenomenon. It's Violet Pokédex entry even mentions it looks like a Tera crystal. My theory is that the Tera Orb is actually what it looks like a sort of Poké Ball that is stealing energy from a trapped Glimmora hence why the Tera crystal looks so angry.

    • @rjs4176
      @rjs4176 Год назад +2

      At most I think Glimmet and Glimmora are certainly another byproduct of the Terastal phenomenon, but certainly not the source.

  • @minchen9403
    @minchen9403 3 месяца назад +2

    The origin of the terrastallizing phenomenon is the Pokémon Terapagos, it’s Pokédex number is 1024

  • @anthonyray9072
    @anthonyray9072 Год назад

    The Varoom idea kinda sounds like when cats hide near the engine to keep warm, horror stories about not warning them before starting your car in the winter. Poison cat pokemon?

  • @Klonoahedgehog
    @Klonoahedgehog Год назад +9

    What's kinda interesting to me is that Quaxxly and Mew's regions of origin seem to be pretty close together geographically, since both Pokemon seem to come from South American based regions.

  • @spark.2465
    @spark.2465 Год назад +3

    Just to let everyone know in case they didn’t you can find a copy of the scarlet/violet book in the school in mesagosa city inside of the book there is an art depiction of a strange mix of the legendary dogs from gen 2 that are fused together

    • @sb6196
      @sb6196 Год назад +1

      One important point is they aren't real. The game says the sketch artist of the scarlet/violet book made the sketches because they were inspired by the ancient/future Pokemon.

    • @Jayson_Tatum
      @Jayson_Tatum Год назад

      In Violet they are a fusion of the Swords of Justice Pokémon. :)

  • @user-ud8zy2dv1k
    @user-ud8zy2dv1k Год назад

    from RT's stream we saw some books on the ancient terastralize pokemon in the library. i can't recall exactly but there was even a sketch of it somewhere.

  • @theodorossavvidis
    @theodorossavvidis Год назад +2

    That first one is probably the orb legendary that is seen in the scarlet/violet book alongside the Suicune/Virizion paradox forms.

  • @ramybenblabla
    @ramybenblabla Год назад +3

    The first is just the dlc pokemon

  • @evancendrowski687
    @evancendrowski687 Год назад +3

    Ive been wanting the pokemon thats responsible for the tera phenomenon to be the original form of kyurem. It would be so perfect, gen 5 remakes should be coming this gen, kyurem has 6 letters, kyurem's form in bw is a "shell" of its former self, and ice and crystals are similar being clear and being known to form cool patterns. Just wishful thinking, but it'd be so cool if it did happen

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage Год назад

      I'm both looking forward to and dreading Gen 5 remakes.

  • @MintFrog
    @MintFrog Год назад +2

    The first one was revealed as the Cover Pokémon for the Indigo Disk DLC

  • @shustgamerXD
    @shustgamerXD Год назад +1

    If quacksly migrated and scarlet and violet is based on both portugal and spain, I think his evolution would probably be an awesome reference to brazil and samba. His attire is also very similar to the ones used in traditional brazilian dancing.

  • @zoa1-99.......
    @zoa1-99....... 4 дня назад

    I buy the Greavard = Dead Maschiff, Primeape dies and becomes Annihilape. Props for you spotting the Tera jewel crown's little face, IS Terapagos!

  • @m.a.ddragon939
    @m.a.ddragon939 Год назад +1

    At Quaxly’s second evolution I was thinking it was about to evolve into a Ballerina swan. Would’ve been repetitive after our previous duckling Pokémon evolved into a swan sure but I thought it could be a water flying type and represent the famous ballet swan lake

  • @jibothebibo6042
    @jibothebibo6042 Год назад

    10:39 Quaxly being named Ru Paul got me distracted lol

  • @manthosdamigos
    @manthosdamigos Год назад

    I think we also have a visual about the first pokemon you mentioned! In the pages of the Violet book in the Academy, there is a chapter called (probably) ''A Disk Pokemon''. Several of the letters in the text are omitted in the same way they are omitted in the professors diary, and the image shows a ball-like pokemon (probably it's shell) comprised of hexagonal plates!

  • @xxmension04xx47
    @xxmension04xx47 Год назад +1

    We do have confirmation of a DLC thanks to the knowledge that a Paradox Virizion & Suicune exist, so there's the potential it may act as the DLC legendary
    also there's a keyword in that dex entry "inspirited"...so the poison-type is probably a ghost-type as well

  • @andrewbowser9326
    @andrewbowser9326 Год назад +1

    I hope DLC takes us through the Time Machine

  • @joshandrobo
    @joshandrobo Год назад +1

    You also see a potential sketch of the Terastal Pokémon in the Scarlet/Violet book found in the library at the school

  • @MothcatAsh
    @MothcatAsh Год назад +2

    In the scarlet/violet book there is a drawing of that pokemon and some extra text with some blank letters (that are easy to figure out)
    But the blank spaces dont actally fit the missing letters so the pokemon does not has to be 6 lettered
    Btw, the pokemon cry that can be heard while terastalizing may be the cry of that origin pokemon

  • @Merik2013
    @Merik2013 Год назад

    For the first one Im surprised you didnt mention that its also talked about in the Scarlet/Violet Book Arvin carries around. You can read that book in full in the school library and the entry in question is accompanied by a wild illustration.

  • @MabushiiKage
    @MabushiiKage Год назад

    You can see a sketch of the Terastral pokemon and get a bit more lore on it in the Violet Book/Scarlet Book. You can find the book on the first floor of the Entrance Hall of the school. It also classifies it as the Disk Pokemon

  • @Gaming_Girl720
    @Gaming_Girl720 Год назад +1

    I think the source of the terastallizing phenomenon is a mythical Pokémon that is being released in an event or DLC

  • @bastionsea2829
    @bastionsea2829 Год назад

    That poison Pokèmon that Varoom talks about makes me think of the Ultra Beast Nihilego
    Unknown poison type
    Squid-like
    I would question the size, but I don't think we know if it can change it's size or if a baby found it's way and started a colony in a junkyard

  • @emilybixler3166
    @emilybixler3166 Год назад

    With regard to the first one, I think mention of a pokemon with a hexagonal shell is also in one of the books at the school

  • @pibat314
    @pibat314 Год назад +1

    if you go to the school library you can find a copy of the scarlet or violet book that arven uses, and at the very end the researcher on the expedition says he felt possessed and doesn't remember writing part of it even though it is his handwriting. Part of it is a sketch of the hexagon shell pokemon that you have as the first secret pokemon. You might want to go look at that entry to see what he says and look at the messy sketch of it.

  • @KarlSolsom
    @KarlSolsom Год назад +1

    Theory: Quaxley doesn't have a "regional variant" but is an off-shoot of Duckley from Uvona, much like the Wiglett/Diglett relationship

  • @irbful
    @irbful Год назад

    Finally, SOMEBODY is talking about this mysterious Hexagon pokemon; I couldn't find any hits on it online until now. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Violet/Scarlet's book final page, which contains a corrupted censored entry, and a very ominous illustration of perhaps this hexagon pokemon. I'd love for you and others to give insight on this :)

  • @bluewingOS
    @bluewingOS Год назад

    there is an additional reference to the first secret pokemon you mentioned, in the Scarlet/Violet book you can read it in the school lobby.

  • @ceasec
    @ceasec Год назад

    when I see "plates" mentioned, I think Arceus haha

  • @jonnymaldonado5974
    @jonnymaldonado5974 Год назад

    a few pokemon have the "what could it really be?" and we may never get that closure vibe like Varoom. Mimikyu, and the evolved form of that dung beetle thing.

  • @Enderpig124
    @Enderpig124 Год назад

    The first pokemon gets mentioned again at the very end of the game.
    In the post-post game, your school has some dialog with the story characters.
    Arven shows you this pokemon in the book you got from your professor.

  • @Titus551
    @Titus551 Год назад

    Huh, your first Pokemon prediction happened spot on. Holy cow that's cool

  • @ItsSamMann
    @ItsSamMann Год назад

    I feel like the legendary Pokémon in this game the fact that their past and future forms of cyclizar is just interesting

  • @patdav56
    @patdav56 Год назад +1

    would like to point out the first secret pokemon mentioned is ALSO referenced in the Scarlet/Violet Book that you can read in the library, with a whole lore page about it written by Heath

  • @limesfamily4302
    @limesfamily4302 Год назад +1

    I think that greavard was originally a herdier and houndstone was a stoutland as they both share the sand rush ability and a similar size.

  • @esslucario91
    @esslucario91 Год назад

    In the Lighthouse lab, you can see on one of the screens or whiteboards what appears to be a Rupee from the Legend of Zelda, looking at the video it resembles the Gem you refer to during the tera form.

  • @mercenaryminor
    @mercenaryminor Год назад

    The first one is known as the disk pokemon, and its entry is located in the scarlet/violet book with some letters blanked out. You can find it after completing post game content after talking to arven and reading the book

  • @sylviefay6110
    @sylviefay6110 Год назад

    I think it'd be pretty cool if quaquaval was a sort of regional blaziken honestly. they're both bipedal fighting type birds with an emphasis on kicking so they're already plenty similar

  • @SuperPcPenguin
    @SuperPcPenguin Год назад

    Greavard's dex might just be referring to any dog pokemon, which if i remember correctly there's a bunch of dog pokemon on paldea so there's plenty to turn into greavard given enough seclusion.

  • @mezzygamez
    @mezzygamez Год назад

    With Greavard I like to think that it was a gastly that tried to take it to the other side and saw something in it so it took over its body as a second chance

  • @tomasio111
    @tomasio111 Год назад

    For the origin of terastal, there's actually a readable page in the scarlet book with a bunch of the letters missing, also has an illustration of the entity

  • @ShinxieITS
    @ShinxieITS Год назад

    The Pokémon that created terastalisation is shown in the violet/scarlet book too, if you talk to Arven in the post game, he will show you the page for it.
    I really thought you were gonna talk about the weird hybridisations of the dog trio/ musketeers trio which are also shown in the book

  • @harleyhollis
    @harleyhollis Год назад

    for Quaxly, maybe it's foreshadowing another Legends game, where Quaquaval gets a new form

  • @brunofelizardo2333
    @brunofelizardo2333 Год назад +1

    the Quaxly bit is very interesting but, as a brazilian, i think what they meant by "distant lands" could be a reference to the historical relation between brazil and portugal/spain... Quaquaval is clearly a reference to our Carnaval Dancers and that might why they reference as a distant land

  • @attackfrogs
    @attackfrogs Год назад +1

    okay the quaxly being from another region just makes me think of like, the next Legends game having quaxly as one of its starters. 👀

  • @Darth_Endersans
    @Darth_Endersans Год назад

    Another thing about the first secret pokemon that might be relevant is that in the scarlet/violet book there is a segment that refers to a pokemon that was dubbed the "disk pokemon" that looks like it has a hexagonal pattern on it similar to what was described in the labs and has never actually been seen in game outside of the picture in the book. I'm not 100% sure if that entry and what you described are conected, but I do believe that they are.

  • @memiluccia
    @memiluccia Год назад

    About the mystery pokémon that is connected to Teracristal is probably mentioned in the Scarlet/Violet book, that you can find in the right in the entry of the Academia, is the last voice mention, I dunno how many people read that but there are different interesting infos (also the classes from the History teacher give us interesting infos)

  • @neilshadow8364
    @neilshadow8364 Год назад +1

    I think Varoom poison pokemon origin may be Gastly: ghost pokémon are known to possess people and object both in anime /lore and as a game mechanic (Rotom), so a dual type ghost-poison would be the perfect candidate.
    In this case, the actual form of Varoom would not have anything to do with the actual "possessor" Pokémon (that is simply a mass of gas) and would instead depend only on the engine form.

  • @snowybeefrblx8748
    @snowybeefrblx8748 Год назад

    The first Pokémon was also mentioned in the last page in the scarlet/violet book located in the academy’s entrance hall.

  • @insertclevernamehere1186
    @insertclevernamehere1186 Год назад

    I remember in the Violet/Scarlet Book, the writer mentions even lower depths, where the saw not only "the disk pokemon" but the fusions of the legendary beasts and the musketeer trio. I reckon when we get DLC, we will gain access to those further depths near the time machine...
    Also, maybe to faces on the terastal crowns ARE the hexagonal plates on the third legendary. I wonder if the interior of the time machine was designed to mimic it, since there were reports of paradox forms long before the time machine was built, maybe the third legendary can pull paradox pokemon to the present through it's own power...

  • @storytellerdavis
    @storytellerdavis Год назад

    That first secret Pokémon is also mentioned in the book Violet/Crimson. Arven brings it up too when you wrap up his end game dialogue.

  • @WiiPlayTanksEnjoyer
    @WiiPlayTanksEnjoyer Год назад

    About that greavard idea, I think it may be the stoutland from the sun and moon anime that passes away.

  • @RlKrav
    @RlKrav Год назад +1

    Vroom could easily be possessed by a pokemon from the ghastly evo line. After possessing the engine it gained the steel typing while losing the ghost typing. You could even make the case that a Mega Gengar is what possessed the engine since it's fully rooted in this reality unlike its pre-evolutions, using the possession as more of a resurrection since it would lose the ghost typing

  • @satansenpai383
    @satansenpai383 Год назад

    The first pokemon you speak about, with the interlocking hexagonal plates, actually is also mentioned in the Violet/Scarlet book you can find in the school building! It has an illustration and speaks a little bit about it. Presumably, what's being referred to there is the very same being!

  • @thegamingcube9679
    @thegamingcube9679 Год назад

    The terastal pokemon is also probably or is linked to the unnamed disk pokemon mentioned in the scarlet/violet book as they have similar redaction in their chapter and also are described to have the hexagonal shapes

  • @__chroma__8660
    @__chroma__8660 Год назад

    In the postgame, (in violet) you can go to uva academy and talk to arven. He will then show you the copy of a violet book, and it has the image of a mysterious hexagonal pokemon. However some of the parts of the book are "smuged in inc". You can still see a drawing however