When Burmy evolves, its cloak becomes part of its body. That’s why Wormadam has never been shown without a ‘cloak’ because it can’t take off what is its own body.
@@M_Alexander no, in the games (minus legends arceus) burmy changes types based off of its form, in the grass cloak, it is bug/grass, in the sand cloak, it is bug/ground, in the trash cloak, it is bug/steel
Very surprised Dhelmise wasn’t mentioned, it’s canonically the kelp, it could have had a form that’s just kelp, or a controlled propellor, or a controlled sail, lots of forms Dhelmise could take
Dhelmise is one of my favorites. My dad's ancestors were legitimately the nautical physicists who were responsible for inventing the Helm on a ship. My last name is Helm and I also love Shelmet because it has S and Helm in it, which S is my first initial and Helm being my last name.
Oooh, that's a good point actually. All the fossils, minus the Galar mishmashes, have Rock typing. Between that and Aerodactyl's entry, it's implied not all-- if any-- of them did in their original forms. Instead, the Rock typing comes from having been fossilized! So one could make a case that any or even all of the fossils may have an Original Form, not just the Galar four and Awerodactyl! :o
@@WyrdFayth My estimates: Omanyte line = Water Kabuto line = Water Aerodactyl = Dragon/Flying Anorith line = Water/Bug Lileep line = Water/Grass Cranidos line = Fighting Shieldon line = Steel Tirtouga line = Water Archen line = Flying Genesect = Bug/Water Tyrunt line = Dark/Dragon Amaura line = Ice Draco? = Dragon ?zolt = Electric Arcto? = Ice/Water ?vish = Water/Dark Dreepy line = Dragon/Water
@@RokuroCarisu Aerodactyl was probably always Rock type, since the Old Amber isn't a stone. Had Aerodactyl's typing been altered, it would be Grass type.
One you have mentioned before, but not this time around, was the Pokedex entries that imply the existence of a not-helpless form of Magikarp. I was surprised you didn't give at least a mention of it.
@@TickedOffPriest theres mention in pokedex entries that magikarp used to be tough; then went the way of the dodo to be totally useless until it evolves.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 it probably meant more surviving because originally the amount of surviving to be gyrados before human interaction happened would have been high but after that they probably would have started being hunt to near extinction due to their extremely dangerous rampages happening too often, at least that’s my theory to explain why being weaker would make more sense, basically weak beginning means more last to the end to breed due to less human hunting plus they may have trade magicarp strength for breeding efficiency
@@auditect950 "Lay unmoving on the floor" is sometimes a euphemism for dead. And given that Pokemon is a kid's game, it can be a case of "Don't say Death". With Parasect having the eyes of a zombie, chances are the insect is no more (well, likely wasn't alive anymore if it was a zombie).
I mentioned the Parasect thing on a Reddit forum and was SWIFTLY corrected by someone who told me that those Parasect were "Unmoving" because they were DEAD. Just like the REAL parasitic fungus kills its host after making it move into the open so it can spread its spores and infect more bugs.
Imagine the mushroom being it's own grass parasite fungus pokemon which can parasotically control other bug types changing their types or even their final form?
Quick note about Burmy, it's always pure bug type regardless of cloak. Once the cloak becomes permanent as it evolves into Wormadam, then the different types apply.
I think it's worth to clarify that Burmy in all of its forms are pure bug type and only gain a new type upon evolving into Wormadam depending on the last cloak it wears.
Oh jeez, I started my pokemon obsession in Gen 4, and I didn't know that!!! I feel like that's so obvious in retrospect DX I thought they were bug/grass, bug/rock, bug/whatever the heck the trash one is-- all the way through!
I love how Torterra is shown to grow to a huge degree, in the dex being said as a moving forest and in the Detective Pikachu showing that they were running on top of giant Torterras. Then the same for Avalugg, whose arguably a turtle as well and is shown to grow to huge feats as well. Would be cool to know if they also grew to the size of Torterra in the movie and were like living sleeping glaciers. The world building you can do with pokémon is something else.
@@spencerstewart6 At the moment, no pokémon as big as those Torterra from the movie have been shown to get caught or atleast what I know of. But at the same time, they haven’t shown anyone actively trying to catch it in a poke ball. But if you were asking me, I’d think it’d be possible since we’ve seen pokeballs, talking about all and any type of pokeball since they’re all human made, able to catch not only strong or legendary mons, but also powerful forms, variants and even ultra beast. So it growing bigger in size, doesn’t exactly sound impossible to figure out to catch at this point.
You missed the two Shellder forms that latch onto Slowpoke to make Slowbro and Slowking. In their Dex entries it’s suggested that the Shellder can fall off and stay independent. Also the Original Dragon from Unova, which would be a form of Kyurem, which is the leftover body.
I thinks there's way more to say about Spiritomb ! In the mini serie of Professor Oak he asks Spiritomb to tell his form before he got sealed in the keystone and that will be a big discovery . In the anime somehow they did the mistake to show the flashbacks apparently When the first person ever beat Spiritomb and sealed him , it showed spiritomb with already his own keystone and ghost body - which makes no sense - but I guess it was for laziness to create the past form of Spiritomb to becoming canon etc..
Getting to see mimikyu's true form would be awesome, but maybe they could do it mimicking other Pokemon probably the starters from various regions. It'll only be aesthetically pleasing but maybe they could give it different abilities or slightly varying movesets
@@gustavju4686 Well we do have SOME idea what Mimikyu's true form is. It has a tentacle slap animation that is it's actual arm, not part of the costume.
@@marivicgamas7961 why do i find this comment funnier than it should be 😂...but seriously that wouldn't be very creative on gamefreak's part but hey ditto exists 😂
Considering the Past and Future theme of Scarlet and Violet, maybe we will see some past or future forms of pokemon, like Drapion's family for example.
I heard an interesting theory that Dwebble and Crustle could possibly be the true forms of Paras and Parasect. Maybe in Kantos forests mushrooms are more accessible than rocks and boulders but using these mushrooms comes at a cost for these pokemon
The Paracect one has me confused. Unmoving without a mushroom confirms the controlling sounds to me like a discarded corps of Paracect and the mushroom has rotted, fallen off, etc. Not that there is one Living without a mushroom to be confirmed
I mean yeah it's very obvious those are simply dead specimens and not some sort of hidden form, however I do believe somewhere in the Pokemon world there has to be Paras without the Mushroom as they're not born with it. Hopefully in the future we get a Pure Paras regional variant, however what envirorment that would be, is tricky
Genesect isn't really a mystery. It's Pok'edex entry literally tells you that the only thing they really changed on this Pok'emon was adding the cannon to it's back which would not have been there on the original Pok'emon. So a natural Genesect would just be the same one we see but without the cannon. It should also be noted that the Drives which can change Genesect's type to Fire, Ice, Water, or Electric would not be a thing you could use on the original version of this Pok'emon since the drives connect into it's cannon that aren't a natural part of the Pok'emon to begin with. Anyway... I thought this video was going to talk about forms that don't exist in the games but do exist in other media. Like Mewtwo's Armored form which has still never been seen in any Pok'emon game and Genesect's high speed form which was exclusive to the Anime. There's also that Crystal Onyx that was in the Anime and appeared to have a different type than regular Onyx and is technically the first regional variant Pok'emon LONG before Regional variants were introduced. I'm surprised they didn't set that first game in the Orange Islands and make Crystal Onyx an official regional variant. They did put the game on a group of islands and seemed to take a lot of inspiration from the Orange Islands in the Anime but at the same time it's almost like the game developers forgot the Orange Islands existed.
Well a few things, the Orange Archipelago was made by the anime, the game developers had no direct involvement so they technically have nothing to forget. Even then they probably did remember, as the Sevii Islands, I'm pretty sure were confirmed to take a lot of inspiration from the Orange Archipelago Secondly, while it's confirmed they pretty much just added the canon to Genesect, it can probably still be assumed that the armor was also added as well as some other attributes because the way Genesect flies, personally doesn't look to be just from the canon Lastly, the video is about forms never actually shown in any media (For the most part at least, with for example Paras without the mushroom), but are still heavily implied to exist from lore pieces Technically Qwilfish is one the first forms to have been implied and then later revealed. As the library in Sinnoh implied ancient forms had bigger spikes, later revealed in Legends: Arceus with Hisuian Qwilfish and Overqwil as that ancient form
Considering the colors and markings I wouldn't be surprised if the Galar fossil legs belonged to Dreepy's living form. It can't be a coincidence that the dragon legs look like this ghost dragon.
i thought Spiritomb's whole deal has been pretty clearly explained now, especially given the quest you get in Legends: Arceus. it's 108 human spirits trapped inside a stone, simple as. if it doesn't have the keystone, the spirits would presumably just scatter and wander about like in Legends before you caught them all.
I thought this lore was explained as early as even Diamond and Pearl, so the 108 souls idea has always been central to its identity and been very clear about it in the games.
@@marhawkman303 I mean it's confirmed that Crawdaunt is using it's shape as intimidation, however if it's mimickty is still not confirmed as far as I'm aware, however if it is, it's definitely of Sharpedo
I always thought that spiritomb was just the result of arceus punishing 81 spirits for their bad deeds when living so arceus locked them all in the key stone because another dex entry states that it is made up of 81 spirits. That also could explain how there are multiple but hard to find. Because that's arceus' main form of punishment when people perform bad deeds.
@@eb8647 While a decent theory in my opinion it's still not confirmed and I'd personally think it more interesting if the original forms were their own seperate forms, maybe using the Beta Designs of the Legendary Beasts
@@matheussandbakk9959 That's why they said "there's a theory" and not "here's a fact". The three guardian dudes who battle you before you can go into the tower where the trio died and were resurrected each use one of the three Pokemon that that theory names, lending more evidence to back up said theory. Its still just a theory but "it's still not confirmed" is a weird response to it given that a theory by definition isn't something confirmed.
there is a Manga that has what tangela is under those vines, ill see if i can find it EDIT:Magical Pokemon Journey / Volume 1 / 04 Tangela-s Secret its not great and probably not Full cannon but i remember reading this as a kid
I actually think we will see these prehistoric forms in the new pokemon game my guess is the pokemon professors are interested in pokemon from the past and future and might use some sort of travel to see these pokemon at a point.
@@Shadowluigi-pj9nq actully, it makes more sense what your saying, I vaguely remembered the episode anyways and is kinda inn the name. Crystal like ice crystals obviusly 😅
@@trueredpanda1538 I mean Steel type is also a contender. A theory is that it's an incomplete transition between the Onix and a Steelix, as Steelix's Mega has similar crystal petrusions. Would explain the Fire Weakness as Ground type doesn't resist Fire (Suprisingly enough). The Water thingy could simply be some sort of secret ability like Water Absorb (It's in the Water obviously) or something. Ice doesn't resist Water and Ground and or Rock is still weak to Water. Could obviously be Ice and Steel as while that doesn't resist Water it's not weak to it at least and would still explain it's Fire Weakness
Men, I was expecting to see a proper upgrade to Porygon2 rather than the glitched-out PorygonZ. I don't know how a Porygon3 would work, but I wouldnt mind seeing how'd they pull it off
Exactly, the parasitic fungus leaves the exoskeleton of its dead host behind. Doesn't mean that there still aren't probably isolated populations where paras and parasect can reach maturity without being killed and puppeted by mushrooms, but I don't thank that's what the dex was getting at.
@@rivetsquid8887 which makes me wonder.... what host? I think Hoops was hitting the right angle... he just used the wrong supporting evidence. Paras is a form that's a mix of a host and parasite... what would they be if separate?
Paras probably stops moving during the faze where the mushrooms spores begin rooting into the body. My theory is that Paras is actually an extinct pokemon and the mushrooms are now the pokemon which is why the breed with mushrooms.
YEAH! Paras/Parasect is in the GRASS breeding group! It can breed with an ODDISH!!!! Also Paras's original planned named for the English was "Parasyte"
Considering Legends: Arceus is 300 years before Kalosian Avalugg's debut, Hisuian Avalugg has always been more rocky, with newer Avalugg gaining MORE ice on it's body.
There's a nice opening to see the galar fossils properly assembled with the new pokemon games as they deal with past and future so it would be interesting to see them do something with galars fossils
mimikyus height of 20 cm only includes up to the disguise's neck, there's a licenced life size plush that is about 20 cm up to its neck, so we can infer its body is small and round
Golem appears quite different than its earlier stages, like a sort of reptile inside a rock shell. It's possible that the earlier stages are also these kinds of critters just fully encased in rock
Actually, it is the other way around. It sheds it's skin to uncover a new white-ish one which than hardens again. It is still a form, that is mentioned in the Pokédex, but we haven't seen it.
I think the Geodude and Machop lines are connected through the same idea as Karrablast and Shelmet-- You NEED to trade the 2 families to truly understand them better.
With the themes of past and future clearly present scarlet and violet we might see a real old genesect and maybe more past forms of other pokemon and even some future forms.
I'm surprised you didn't mention vulpix as so many dex entries mention that at the time of birth it has only one tail and that tail is white. Yet never in the games or even the anime (to my knowledge) have we been shown this baby form or a vulpix with fewer than 6 tails. It's strange as there have many opportunities to show a single tailed vulpix in both the anime and games as this fact was first mentioned in Gen 1 and Gen 2 introduced us to baby Pokemon. Also in the anime Brock was given a vulpix in episode 28 and had it with him until episode 169. We've even gotten a regional variant with an Alolan form yet still no single tail vulpix. O_o
What's worse is that in the Sun and Moon Anime they actually have two Vulpix Eggs that hatch into a Kantonean Vulpix and Alolan Vulpix (that Lillie keeps) - and _neither_ of them displays this Single-Tailed trait! I'm certain that this confirms that the Pokédex description in RBYG is complete BS...
@@lianaverwood9810 Well that's the annoying part; it's not just Gen 1 that mentions the tail splitting, it's literally in the Pokedex for EVERY generation (at least in one of the versions)! Considering they've edited the Pokedex slightly for other Kanto Pokemon in current games I don't understand why they continue to have this in it when it's never shown to be true. I actually didn't even know about the newborn vulpix in Sun and Moon (didn't watch the anime), but that makes it even worse because in the Sun version the Kanto form's Pokedex states, "Its beautiful fur and tails have made it very popular. As it grows, its tails split to form more tails." So while it might not mention a single tail it does mention its tail splitting into more tails.
I always thought that the substitute doll is based on what Cubone looks like before its mother dies. It has all of the features of Cubone and their mother's skull.
You touched on Dreepy and the Galar fossils. We could also assume that every ghost type has a living counterpart. And every fossil Pokémon has an original form that wouldn’t necessarily have a rock typing.
I once drew my own “concept art” of potential evolutions or just different forms of Mimikyu, one partially showing its true form, with its Pikachu disguise now being worn like a hoodie, and the final evolution/form being completely revealed, but keeping always its disguise nearby. It was a giant, scary monster. I wish I could find those drawings. I used to be pretty decent at drawing.
Actually, from what I recall, Burmy IS just a pure bug-type, no matter its cloak, it's only Wormadam, which, as mentioned by another comment, makes the cloak a part of its body, that changes type depending on which form of cloak it is. I also vividly remember Forretress as a case of this due to it being mentioned in PMDs "Seven wonders of the Pokemon World". btw, same should of course also apply for Pineco. One of my personal headcanons for Cubone is that their original species/their look under the mask doesn't matter, and that most of any Pokemon-species could become a Cubone if they lost their mother and decide to wear their skull, it's more of a group of Pokemon-orphans than an actual species... is one of the interpretations I came up with over the years. Obviously, this doesn't actually check out with the Cubones we catch in the game, although this would open up the possibility of "Cubones" of other species, like, a more bird-like Cubone, a quadruped Cubone, something along those lines. Another example I generally like to bring up is Makuhita, where its Sun Pokedex-entry feels like it's implying that the Makuhita we know is its Alolan form.
Doesn't really look alike, I also believe it's no overstatement considering I'm pretty sure they actually used a fossil of some sort and the scientists probably know what they're talking about Also while not confirmed that the genetic basis was found in Unova (I think it was, but whatever) there's literally nothing hinting at that it was found in Sinnoh
There's also newborn vulpix that states in the dex that it starts out with just one white tail. We almost got something close with the baby vulpix in the GS leaks, but even that wasn't just one tail.
I always thought there was some connection between parasect and crustle due to their similar appearance. Maybe some sort of biological adaption occurred where the bug started living under rocks as so the mushroom cannot grow there.
Something that would be pretty cool considering pokemon Scarlett is based in the past, have Dreepys pre-fossil form in that game, since it's in the past, and keep the normal-looking Dreepys (with the ghost typing) in pokemon violet. Dreepys "non-ghost" form could even be a new pokemon!! Or a different form... Could even do this with all the fossil pokemon from Sword and Sheild!!!
Those games arent based in the past or future. Theyre gonna take place at the same time. Also that would make all those forms new to the franchise and youre excluding them to one of two games
Not entirely on topic, but close: I want to see a Shellder that is on Slowking as a regional variant or something. It doesn’t even have to be regional. They could figure it out.
Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed you included Wormadam in this list, since it's not wearing a cloak. Rather, the cloak it has as a Burmy merges with it and becomes its skin. Also, Burmy is a pure Bug type regardless of cloak. Its cloak only gives Wormadam a extra typing. Fun video and great idea for a list, but it could have used a bit more research. You included a lot of obscure stuff but fumbled a bit on some basics.
That drawing for snorunt IS interesting. But concept art often shows the deconstruction of a character. It’s about structure and continuity in animation and design. That is not a secret form.
according to pokemon suns pokedex, makuhita might have a different form too, since the "alolan" makuhita is way more recognized than the makuhita of its original region
What about the OG dragon from black and white, kyurem is supposed to be its form but its not the original typing for sure so it had to look different too
Also the original Legendary Beasts. While the Eevee theory kinda works, I'd like to believe they were their entirely own Pokemon before they died Rainbow Ho-oh, maybe exist considering it's Pokedex entries, but that's simply speculation We got Type: Full which while never sucessfully created was clearly the intended result for Type: Null / Silvally We got Cryogonal which turns into Water Vapor during hot Summers (Weirdly not explored in the Game they were introduced in that was the only generation with seasons!) Shadow Mewtwo while confirmed in Pokemon media, not technically confirmed in main series games Shellder part of Slowbro is also one, however they probably can't exist without Slowpoke
Quick theory: Applin true form might be an original Dreepy. Applin is Grass/Dragon and Dreepy is Ghost/Dragon, thus Applin without the apple would probably be just Dragon. Dreepy is said to have died and awoken as a Ghost, so we can also conclude that it was originally just a Dragon. Applin's true form does look like a Dreepy...
A Bug/Water Seaweed Cloak & Bug/Fire Obsidian or Magma Cloak Wormadam always seemed like a no Brainer to me. Favorite is a Bug/Ice Icicle Cloak forme. Should have had that.
Well it's a bagworm, so not really found in those envirorments. Also while the Seaweed Cloak idea sounds good, I'm not sure a water based Plant is enough to warrant a Water type as it's still well a Plant. Also an insect intentionally covering itself in molten Magma just sounds like a recipe for disaster, I'm not sure Burmy would like that
@@slicerneons3300 True, it's obviously not out of the question, especially considering it's Pokemon, but I personally don't see this happening. Especially considering how the Burmy line is both sadly forgettable and not that popular
@@slicerneons3300 I personally think some of the teased forms will sooner or later be revealed, like for example the Magikarp, Crawdaunt, Paras and Gastrodon forms as simple Regional Variants, but also Pokemon like the Original Dragon Kyurem or the original Legendary Beasts as well the original Genesect as those are logical to introduce in for example new Legends installments
As a tangent regarding parasect; in Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon it's further confirmed that Parasect is the mushroom because when you talk to it it says "I, the mushroom, am in total control" and it's just been something that stuck wiht me, so creepy.
Magikarp has an unseen but mentioned form aswell. Violet: ''In the distant past, it was somewhat stronger than the horribly weak descendants that exist today.''
I love how everyone is more excited about the mushroomless parasect and not the thinking parasitic mushroom on the loose. Before you say the mushroom died, the issue with that is parts of the decayed mushroom would still be on the parasect. Notice how in the pokedex entry that it specifically states that the mushroom is gone, not rotted. This implies there is a point where the parasite willingly leaves the host, meaning somewhere there is a puppeteering mushroom pokemon looking for a new host.
3:00 That's NOT a Theory, Wynaut and Wobbuffet's ENTIRE GIMMICK is that the blue body is a punching bag, even inflated up. The real Pokémon in the black "tail", hell, Lockstin made a theory that the tail is an "evolution" of the Unown. Since Wynaut, Wobbuffet, and Unown all love to group together and huddle closely in caves, it would naturally make sense that the Unown, when crossing into the Pokémon World from between the Realms being forced to take shelter and toughen up, Evolved decoy bodies to take hits as Wynaut. (*This is why Wynaut's 'tail' has only one eye.) After becoming a stronger Pokémon and unlocking a defensive ability-set, the Unown//Wynaut can Evolve again to actually protect themselves AND other Unown, etc. as Wobbuffet. [**THIS IS WHY THE DEX has Wobbuffet AFTER Unown, they are connected in some way, at least subtly, even Pokémon confirms that...]
[Sapphire]: *Wynaut gather on moonlit nights to play by squeezing up against each other. By being squeezed, this Pokémon gains endurance and is trained to dole out powerful counterattacks.* [FireRed/LeafGreen]: *It tends to move in a pack with others. They cluster in a tight group to sleep in a cave.* [Gold]: *It hates light and shock. If attacked, it inflates its body to pump up its counterstrike.* [Silver]: *To keep its pitch-black tail hidden, it lives quietly in the darkness. It is never first to attack.* [Sapphire]: *Wobbuffet does nothing but endure attacks - it won't attack on its own. However, it won't endure an attack on its tail. When that happens, the Pokémon will try to take the foe with it using Destiny Bond.* [Emerald]: *Usually docile, a Wobbuffet strikes back ferociously if its black tail is attacked. It makes its lair in caves where it waits for nightfall.* [Diamond/Pearl/Platinum]: *It desperately tries to keep its black tail hidden. It is said to be proof the tail hides a secret.* [Gold]: *Their shapes look like hieroglyphs on ancient tablets. It is said that the two are somehow related.* [Platinum]: *When alone, nothing happens. However, if there are two or more, an odd power is said to emerge.* [Legends: Arceus]: *It is hard to believe these strangely shaped Pokémon are truly living creatures. I've pointed out that the species' many forms resemble writing from other lands; no one will take me seriously.*
Mimikyu somehow did actually got revealed in an episode of the anime, i saw that in a episode of Pokémon but it is just a black cloud with red eyes, when Moewth saw that he passed away somehow, plus: we still don’t know if the cloud is just another cloak?
im sorry bro but your reaching for ALOT of these, thought it was gonna be based off pokedex entries or information not your opinion and "looks"... dwebble... its just a natural shell that you could possibly see a dwebble without its shell like a grookey without its stick. doesnt mean its another form.
Even Snorunt isn't really a "secret" form. You can literally see on its 3D model that it's just a black ball. Like you said, a LOT of these are really reaching out ! 😅😂
No mention of Arbok and Mantyke with region-based markings? Also, I honestly don't think Genesect was changed much from its original form. At least one Pokedex entry implies that the cannon was the ONLY addition that Team Plasma made to it, and you do have to consider that Bug/Steel-types do exist in nature (if anything, Bug-types are the perfect case for having natural robot-like creatures, between their exoskeletons and one species of insect even being discovered to have a mechanical gear). Personally, I always saw Genesect as being a reference to the theory that technologically-advanced aliens visited the earth as far back as prehistoric times, so minus the cannon, it's pretty much the same Pokemon now as the one that existed back then.
Wynaut and Wobbufet don't belong here, even if that theory is true (and it kind of is confirmed by the Pokedex). That is their full form. The blue part isn't some random, unrelated item it hides behind or within, it is a full part of the Pokemon. We can see when looking from side and back views that it is connected. The theory is just that the tail is the main part of the body. A limb that distracts foes by looking like a full Pokemon and acts as a shield or punching bag to protect the rest of the body. Also, I love how many of these are Pokemon with a shell of some kind, and you just assume it can exist without the shell. But you don't include the Squirtle line. And if anyone tries arguing that the shell is part of its body and it would die without it, that is literally stated to be the case for a Paras and Parasect without their mushrooms but that's listed here, and its almost certainly the case for Forretress, but its here as well. Why list Pokemon with shells of some kind, ones that quite possibly might be "removing the shell would kill it", and not others?
Kinda surprised you didn't bring up Xerneus and Yveltal. It's more noticable with Xerneus, but both have a "neutral" form that can ONLY ever be seen in the Status screen and I think Pokemon-amie. This form has its horns a pale shade of blue, where as in battle it becomes its Active form which has golden horns with rainbow tips.
For Cubone, there has been a licensed Cubone plushie that has a removable skull. I suppose you could assume that it shows the true face of Cubone without it's mother's skull in it's head.
Pokémon shirt just came up with a advertisement about their eco friendly shirt where you can see digglet is crawling around, it crawls across the shirt that implies its body is over the shirt means it's has legs and its very stubby
Watching it, I believe it's showing the digletts crawling through the shirt, as in the shirt breaks down for them in the same way the soil around them gets broken up as they dig forward
16:05 cmon it’s clearly a Kabutops Kabutops is based on a horseshoe crab which isn’t an actual crab and is an arachnid and spiders and scorpions which are other arachnids have been bug type (with the exception of drapion but it’s just to make room for it’s dark type) so it was probably just a more accurate Kabutops but game freak had to change it to make genesect more unique
My headcanon reason for why you can't assemble the Galar fossils correctly is that their other halves don't exist anymore. They didn't survive the millions of years of fossilization they had to have undergone so the halves that we know and can reassemble today are all that's left. Fossils in the real world are most often never found as full skeletons, far from it. You'd be lucky enough to find even a fully preserved leg or something. That would honestly be surprisingly realistic for Pokémon and I'd like to see a pokédex entry sometime in the future confirm this.
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When Burmy evolves, its cloak becomes part of its body. That’s why Wormadam has never been shown without a ‘cloak’ because it can’t take off what is its own body.
Peeling...
Yeah and he seems to not have realize that Burmy is already pure Bug type
@@M_Alexander Also Burmy's moveset is always the same. Wormadam actually has different sets.
@@marhawkman303 right, Wormadam is almost three different Pokémon cause they have different stats as well
@@M_Alexander no, in the games (minus legends arceus) burmy changes types based off of its form, in the grass cloak, it is bug/grass, in the sand cloak, it is bug/ground, in the trash cloak, it is bug/steel
Very surprised Dhelmise wasn’t mentioned, it’s canonically the kelp, it could have had a form that’s just kelp, or a controlled propellor, or a controlled sail, lots of forms Dhelmise could take
Dhelmise is one of my favorites. My dad's ancestors were legitimately the nautical physicists who were responsible for inventing the Helm on a ship. My last name is Helm and I also love Shelmet because it has S and Helm in it, which S is my first initial and Helm being my last name.
@@pokemontradingcardgamecoll5934 Dhelmise is my favorite Pokemon
A non-catchable Dhelmise boat/ship would be cool to see
Yeah, that Pokémon has a lot of potential forms that would be included in future games
Aerodactyl's true form isn't seen either, the mega form states it's 'close' to it's true form but not it's true form
Oooh, that's a good point actually. All the fossils, minus the Galar mishmashes, have Rock typing. Between that and Aerodactyl's entry, it's implied not all-- if any-- of them did in their original forms. Instead, the Rock typing comes from having been fossilized!
So one could make a case that any or even all of the fossils may have an Original Form, not just the Galar four and Awerodactyl! :o
In one of tyrantrums dex entries, it says that it's believed to of had feathers at one point but perfect restoration isn't possible
@@WyrdFayth My estimates:
Omanyte line = Water
Kabuto line = Water
Aerodactyl = Dragon/Flying
Anorith line = Water/Bug
Lileep line = Water/Grass
Cranidos line = Fighting
Shieldon line = Steel
Tirtouga line = Water
Archen line = Flying
Genesect = Bug/Water
Tyrunt line = Dark/Dragon
Amaura line = Ice
Draco? = Dragon
?zolt = Electric
Arcto? = Ice/Water
?vish = Water/Dark
Dreepy line = Dragon/Water
@Schatzmeyster ?
@@RokuroCarisu Aerodactyl was probably always Rock type, since the Old Amber isn't a stone. Had Aerodactyl's typing been altered, it would be Grass type.
One you have mentioned before, but not this time around, was the Pokedex entries that imply the existence of a not-helpless form of Magikarp. I was surprised you didn't give at least a mention of it.
Explain...
@@TickedOffPriest theres mention in pokedex entries that magikarp used to be tough; then went the way of the dodo to be totally useless until it evolves.
@@megatamerernie513 Gotta wonder what that would've meant for them evolving. Would a competent Magikarp make a more or less effective Gyarados?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 it probably meant more surviving because originally the amount of surviving to be gyrados before human interaction happened would have been high but after that they probably would have started being hunt to near extinction due to their extremely dangerous rampages happening too often, at least that’s my theory to explain why being weaker would make more sense, basically weak beginning means more last to the end to breed due to less human hunting plus they may have trade magicarp strength for breeding efficiency
Bro that is gyarados
The unmoving Parasect are likely dead specimens. The mushroom is what keeps them animated.
I can't believe you can capture a sentient fungal infection
@@solierix Vaginas are particularly prone to catching these!
The researcher would have noticed if they were dead.
@@auditect950 "Lay unmoving on the floor" is sometimes a euphemism for dead. And given that Pokemon is a kid's game, it can be a case of "Don't say Death". With Parasect having the eyes of a zombie, chances are the insect is no more (well, likely wasn't alive anymore if it was a zombie).
@@solierix Would like to see an alternative evolution for it where one gets rid of the mushroom.
I mentioned the Parasect thing on a Reddit forum and was SWIFTLY corrected by someone who told me that those Parasect were "Unmoving" because they were DEAD. Just like the REAL parasitic fungus kills its host after making it move into the open so it can spread its spores and infect more bugs.
it does make one wonder what these pokemon would be like with not fungus though.
Isn't that obvi obvious tho?
Imagine the mushroom being it's own grass parasite fungus pokemon which can parasotically control other bug types changing their types or even their final form?
@@sketch-eee4165 mmm yeah, fascinating idea.
For Hisuian Avalugg, I think that the greyish brown might also be rock covering, while what we can see of the seams are its real skin.
yeha that was my thought too.
Quick note about Burmy, it's always pure bug type regardless of cloak. Once the cloak becomes permanent as it evolves into Wormadam, then the different types apply.
I think it's worth to clarify that Burmy in all of its forms are pure bug type and only gain a new type upon evolving into Wormadam depending on the last cloak it wears.
Oh jeez, I started my pokemon obsession in Gen 4, and I didn't know that!!! I feel like that's so obvious in retrospect DX I thought they were bug/grass, bug/rock, bug/whatever the heck the trash one is-- all the way through!
@@hotaruishere2133 bug steel
Well more calrification only the FEMALE Burmy can gain a secondary typing, since Male Burmy only evolve to Mothim which are Bug/Flying
I believe that there was actually an officially licensed plush of cubone with a removable skull which showed a brown charmander-like pokemon
Not just a plush, an actual confirmed image as well.
I love how Torterra is shown to grow to a huge degree, in the dex being said as a moving forest and in the Detective Pikachu showing that they were running on top of giant Torterras. Then the same for Avalugg, whose arguably a turtle as well and is shown to grow to huge feats as well. Would be cool to know if they also grew to the size of Torterra in the movie and were like living sleeping glaciers.
The world building you can do with pokémon is something else.
Avalug stopped growing to be giant a few years before legends Arceus with the noble being the last of the giant avalugs
So with it being equivalent to a forest, would you still be able to catch it in a poke ball?
@@spencerstewart6 yes because all Pokémon have the innate ability to shrink
@@spencerstewart6 At the moment, no pokémon as big as those Torterra from the movie have been shown to get caught or atleast what I know of. But at the same time, they haven’t shown anyone actively trying to catch it in a poke ball.
But if you were asking me, I’d think it’d be possible since we’ve seen pokeballs, talking about all and any type of pokeball since they’re all human made, able to catch not only strong or legendary mons, but also powerful forms, variants and even ultra beast. So it growing bigger in size, doesn’t exactly sound impossible to figure out to catch at this point.
You missed the two Shellder forms that latch onto Slowpoke to make Slowbro and Slowking. In their Dex entries it’s suggested that the Shellder can fall off and stay independent. Also the Original Dragon from Unova, which would be a form of Kyurem, which is the leftover body.
True Kyurem in B/W remakes?
@@DeisFortuna PLA type games maybe
Oh yeah maybe that is just a blob or a circle inside or even a parasite inside or maybe the shell is the true form
I thinks there's way more to say about Spiritomb ! In the mini serie of Professor Oak he asks Spiritomb to tell his form before he got sealed in the keystone and that will be a big discovery .
In the anime somehow they did the mistake to show the flashbacks apparently When the first person ever beat Spiritomb and sealed him , it showed spiritomb with already his own keystone and ghost body - which makes no sense - but I guess it was for laziness to create the past form of Spiritomb to becoming canon etc..
Getting to see mimikyu's true form would be awesome, but maybe they could do it mimicking other Pokemon probably the starters from various regions. It'll only be aesthetically pleasing but maybe they could give it different abilities or slightly varying movesets
Maybe Eevee since it's considered a co-mascot with Pikachu now.
@@gustavju4686 Well we do have SOME idea what Mimikyu's true form is. It has a tentacle slap animation that is it's actual arm, not part of the costume.
Mimikyu is blob
@@marhawkman303 Yeah.
@@marivicgamas7961 why do i find this comment funnier than it should be 😂...but seriously that wouldn't be very creative on gamefreak's part but hey ditto exists 😂
Considering the Past and Future theme of Scarlet and Violet, maybe we will see some past or future forms of pokemon, like Drapion's family for example.
I heard an interesting theory that Dwebble and Crustle could possibly be the true forms of Paras and Parasect. Maybe in Kantos forests mushrooms are more accessible than rocks and boulders but using these mushrooms comes at a cost for these pokemon
I absolutely love that and its my new headcanon
That's a amazing theory and it makes perfect sense but I personally think they used to have a ancient evolution that eventually became GenaSECT
That's really cool and I haven't heard that before! Thanks for sharing
@@slowazzd2165 I agree
@@peppersaltsman6044 yeah same
The Paracect one has me confused. Unmoving without a mushroom confirms the controlling sounds to me like a discarded corps of Paracect and the mushroom has rotted, fallen off, etc. Not that there is one Living without a mushroom to be confirmed
In all fairness, Professor Laventon thought chucking food was a revolutionary idea
i can’t understand this
I mean yeah it's very obvious those are simply dead specimens and not some sort of hidden form, however I do believe somewhere in the Pokemon world there has to be Paras without the Mushroom as they're not born with it.
Hopefully in the future we get a Pure Paras regional variant, however what envirorment that would be, is tricky
Genesect isn't really a mystery. It's Pok'edex entry literally tells you that the only thing they really changed on this Pok'emon was adding the cannon to it's back which would not have been there on the original Pok'emon. So a natural Genesect would just be the same one we see but without the cannon. It should also be noted that the Drives which can change Genesect's type to Fire, Ice, Water, or Electric would not be a thing you could use on the original version of this Pok'emon since the drives connect into it's cannon that aren't a natural part of the Pok'emon to begin with.
Anyway... I thought this video was going to talk about forms that don't exist in the games but do exist in other media. Like Mewtwo's Armored form which has still never been seen in any Pok'emon game and Genesect's high speed form which was exclusive to the Anime. There's also that Crystal Onyx that was in the Anime and appeared to have a different type than regular Onyx and is technically the first regional variant Pok'emon LONG before Regional variants were introduced. I'm surprised they didn't set that first game in the Orange Islands and make Crystal Onyx an official regional variant. They did put the game on a group of islands and seemed to take a lot of inspiration from the Orange Islands in the Anime but at the same time it's almost like the game developers forgot the Orange Islands existed.
Armored Mewtwo was in Pokémon Go.
Correction : Genesect doesn't change type. Its Signature attack is the one that changes type.
Well a few things, the Orange Archipelago was made by the anime, the game developers had no direct involvement so they technically have nothing to forget. Even then they probably did remember, as the Sevii Islands, I'm pretty sure were confirmed to take a lot of inspiration from the Orange Archipelago
Secondly, while it's confirmed they pretty much just added the canon to Genesect, it can probably still be assumed that the armor was also added as well as some other attributes because the way Genesect flies, personally doesn't look to be just from the canon
Lastly, the video is about forms never actually shown in any media (For the most part at least, with for example Paras without the mushroom), but are still heavily implied to exist from lore pieces
Technically Qwilfish is one the first forms to have been implied and then later revealed. As the library in Sinnoh implied ancient forms had bigger spikes, later revealed in Legends: Arceus with Hisuian Qwilfish and Overqwil as that ancient form
Considering the colors and markings I wouldn't be surprised if the Galar fossil legs belonged to Dreepy's living form. It can't be a coincidence that the dragon legs look like this ghost dragon.
i thought Spiritomb's whole deal has been pretty clearly explained now, especially given the quest you get in Legends: Arceus. it's 108 human spirits trapped inside a stone, simple as. if it doesn't have the keystone, the spirits would presumably just scatter and wander about like in Legends before you caught them all.
this isn't even just explained in arceus either, it's mentioned several times in other sources too
I thought this lore was explained as early as even Diamond and Pearl, so the 108 souls idea has always been central to its identity and been very clear about it in the games.
For the Dreepy line I would assume they’re Dragon/Water
exactly
I was today years old when I realized Crawdaunt is replicating Sharpedo.
Ennh... I think it's debatable if that counts as fact myself.
@@marhawkman303 I mean it's confirmed that Crawdaunt is using it's shape as intimidation, however if it's mimickty is still not confirmed as far as I'm aware, however if it is, it's definitely of Sharpedo
there’s also the form of shellder that is attached to the slowpoke evolution line, it looks completely different from the actual shellder
I always thought that spiritomb was just the result of arceus punishing 81 spirits for their bad deeds when living so arceus locked them all in the key stone because another dex entry states that it is made up of 81 spirits. That also could explain how there are multiple but hard to find. Because that's arceus' main form of punishment when people perform bad deeds.
The dex says that it is made of 108 spirits not 81
also, the trio of Raikou, Entei and Suicune are apparently resurrected forms of their original forms.
There’s a theory that says their original forms were jolteon, flareon, and vaporeon, respectively
@@eb8647 While a decent theory in my opinion it's still not confirmed and I'd personally think it more interesting if the original forms were their own seperate forms, maybe using the Beta Designs of the Legendary Beasts
@@matheussandbakk9959 That's why they said "there's a theory" and not "here's a fact". The three guardian dudes who battle you before you can go into the tower where the trio died and were resurrected each use one of the three Pokemon that that theory names, lending more evidence to back up said theory. Its still just a theory but "it's still not confirmed" is a weird response to it given that a theory by definition isn't something confirmed.
there is a Manga that has what tangela is under those vines, ill see if i can find it
EDIT:Magical Pokemon Journey / Volume 1 / 04 Tangela-s Secret
its not great and probably not Full cannon but i remember reading this as a kid
I actually think we will see these prehistoric forms in the new pokemon game my guess is the pokemon professors are interested in pokemon from the past and future and might use some sort of travel to see these pokemon at a point.
Crystal Onix? I was always disappointed that the crystal Onix didn't exist in the games, it could have been a really cool ice type variant of Onix
I think it was water type though? Sinch it used water moves and chilled inn the water? 🤔
@@trueredpanda1538 it was weak to fire 🔥
@@Shadowluigi-pj9nq actully, it makes more sense what your saying, I vaguely remembered the episode anyways and is kinda inn the name. Crystal like ice crystals obviusly 😅
@@trueredpanda1538 I mean Steel type is also a contender. A theory is that it's an incomplete transition between the Onix and a Steelix, as Steelix's Mega has similar crystal petrusions. Would explain the Fire Weakness as Ground type doesn't resist Fire (Suprisingly enough). The Water thingy could simply be some sort of secret ability like Water Absorb (It's in the Water obviously) or something. Ice doesn't resist Water and Ground and or Rock is still weak to Water.
Could obviously be Ice and Steel as while that doesn't resist Water it's not weak to it at least and would still explain it's Fire Weakness
I feel so bad for Mimikyu. I wish there was a regional variant or an item like a charm or something that would let it safely come out in the open.
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Men, I was expecting to see a proper upgrade to Porygon2 rather than the glitched-out PorygonZ. I don't know how a Porygon3 would work, but I wouldnt mind seeing how'd they pull it off
I thought that the "unmoving" part of Parasect's Dex entry meant it was dead, and the mushroom went away or something.
That's what I was told......aggressively.
Exactly, the parasitic fungus leaves the exoskeleton of its dead host behind.
Doesn't mean that there still aren't probably isolated populations where paras and parasect can reach maturity without being killed and puppeted by mushrooms, but I don't thank that's what the dex was getting at.
@@rivetsquid8887 wait... wouldn't that imply the fungus was able to live without the host body? O-o'
@@marhawkman303 the fungus likely distributes spores and the original colony dies out, or it finds a newer, fresher host.
@@rivetsquid8887 which makes me wonder.... what host? I think Hoops was hitting the right angle... he just used the wrong supporting evidence. Paras is a form that's a mix of a host and parasite... what would they be if separate?
Paras probably stops moving during the faze where the mushrooms spores begin rooting into the body. My theory is that Paras is actually an extinct pokemon and the mushrooms are now the pokemon which is why the breed with mushrooms.
YEAH! Paras/Parasect is in the GRASS breeding group! It can breed with an ODDISH!!!!
Also Paras's original planned named for the English was "Parasyte"
Considering Legends: Arceus is 300 years before Kalosian Avalugg's debut, Hisuian Avalugg has always been more rocky, with newer Avalugg gaining MORE ice on it's body.
One dex entry for Mareep says it get sheered. We haven't seen one in the game. Curious what a sheered Mareep looks like haha.
oohh... yes......
Quadruped Flaaffy?
Probably what you'd expect, a circular, smooth, round blue body.
There's a nice opening to see the galar fossils properly assembled with the new pokemon games as they deal with past and future so it would be interesting to see them do something with galars fossils
BirdkeeperToby has a theory that Arceus has another unbound form too. Kind of like Spiritomb.
mimikyus height of 20 cm only includes up to the disguise's neck, there's a licenced life size plush that is about 20 cm up to its neck, so we can infer its body is small and round
also it's got an animation where it uses it's actual tentacle arms to slap things.
The original form of Zekrom/Reshiram is what I would've like to see
Golem appears quite different than its earlier stages, like a sort of reptile inside a rock shell. It's possible that the earlier stages are also these kinds of critters just fully encased in rock
Actually, it is the other way around. It sheds it's skin to uncover a new white-ish one which than hardens again. It is still a form, that is mentioned in the Pokédex, but we haven't seen it.
I think the Geodude and Machop lines are connected through the same idea as Karrablast and Shelmet--
You NEED to trade the 2 families to truly understand them better.
We should have gotten a Paras form as far back as sun and moon. How cool would a vulcano bug be
With the themes of past and future clearly present scarlet and violet we might see a real old genesect and maybe more past forms of other pokemon and even some future forms.
Hopefully the fossils
Why can’t people just say genesect is a robotic kaputops and move on?
@@NightkeeperLunala Because nothing actually confirms that theory
I'm surprised you didn't mention vulpix as so many dex entries mention that at the time of birth it has only one tail and that tail is white. Yet never in the games or even the anime (to my knowledge) have we been shown this baby form or a vulpix with fewer than 6 tails. It's strange as there have many opportunities to show a single tailed vulpix in both the anime and games as this fact was first mentioned in Gen 1 and Gen 2 introduced us to baby Pokemon. Also in the anime Brock was given a vulpix in episode 28 and had it with him until episode 169. We've even gotten a regional variant with an Alolan form yet still no single tail vulpix. O_o
What's worse is that in the Sun and Moon Anime they actually have two Vulpix Eggs that hatch into a Kantonean Vulpix and Alolan Vulpix (that Lillie keeps) - and _neither_ of them displays this Single-Tailed trait!
I'm certain that this confirms that the Pokédex description in RBYG is complete BS...
@@lianaverwood9810 Well that's the annoying part; it's not just Gen 1 that mentions the tail splitting, it's literally in the Pokedex for EVERY generation (at least in one of the versions)! Considering they've edited the Pokedex slightly for other Kanto Pokemon in current games I don't understand why they continue to have this in it when it's never shown to be true.
I actually didn't even know about the newborn vulpix in Sun and Moon (didn't watch the anime), but that makes it even worse because in the Sun version the Kanto form's Pokedex states, "Its beautiful fur and tails have made it very popular. As it grows, its tails split to form more tails." So while it might not mention a single tail it does mention its tail splitting into more tails.
@@RallyCheetah That could be technically Correct if you consider its Evolution Ninetales as its grown-up state.
Still sounds like BS to me, though...
I always thought that the substitute doll is based on what Cubone looks like before its mother dies. It has all of the features of Cubone and their mother's skull.
You touched on Dreepy and the Galar fossils. We could also assume that every ghost type has a living counterpart. And every fossil Pokémon has an original form that wouldn’t necessarily have a rock typing.
I once drew my own “concept art” of potential evolutions or just different forms of Mimikyu, one partially showing its true form, with its Pikachu disguise now being worn like a hoodie, and the final evolution/form being completely revealed, but keeping always its disguise nearby. It was a giant, scary monster. I wish I could find those drawings. I used to be pretty decent at drawing.
Actually, from what I recall, Burmy IS just a pure bug-type, no matter its cloak, it's only Wormadam, which, as mentioned by another comment, makes the cloak a part of its body, that changes type depending on which form of cloak it is.
I also vividly remember Forretress as a case of this due to it being mentioned in PMDs "Seven wonders of the Pokemon World". btw, same should of course also apply for Pineco.
One of my personal headcanons for Cubone is that their original species/their look under the mask doesn't matter, and that most of any Pokemon-species could become a Cubone if they lost their mother and decide to wear their skull, it's more of a group of Pokemon-orphans than an actual species... is one of the interpretations I came up with over the years. Obviously, this doesn't actually check out with the Cubones we catch in the game, although this would open up the possibility of "Cubones" of other species, like, a more bird-like Cubone, a quadruped Cubone, something along those lines.
Another example I generally like to bring up is Makuhita, where its Sun Pokedex-entry feels like it's implying that the Makuhita we know is its Alolan form.
my thought on forretress is that it resembles a Clam.... thus the metal shell is like a clam shell... and for clams that's basically their skeleton.
@@marhawkman303 Yeah, but while the Shell could be that, the actual Pokemon is based on a bagworm just like Burmy. Also no clams in the forest..
@@matheussandbakk9959 enh, true I guess.
Did anyone already mentioned that Genesect may be actually Kleavor with that thing about "300 million years ago" being just overstatement?
Doesn't really look alike, I also believe it's no overstatement considering I'm pretty sure they actually used a fossil of some sort and the scientists probably know what they're talking about
Also while not confirmed that the genetic basis was found in Unova (I think it was, but whatever) there's literally nothing hinting at that it was found in Sinnoh
There's also newborn vulpix that states in the dex that it starts out with just one white tail. We almost got something close with the baby vulpix in the GS leaks, but even that wasn't just one tail.
Cubone seems to be a fusion/hybrid of Charmander and Kangaskhan, so maybe it's a result of Rocket dealing with cloning technology.
I’d say Grade A above A’s theory about ALL Pokémon being hybrids of other Pokémon through experiments using Bill’s teleporter and cloning.
I always thought there was some connection between parasect and crustle due to their similar appearance. Maybe some sort of biological adaption occurred where the bug started living under rocks as so the mushroom cannot grow there.
I noticed that wynaut's tail looks kind of like an unknown.
just a theory but the wobbuffet "tail" looks like an unknown, plus both are psychic and come from black & white.
They actually are both second gen pokemon.
Something that would be pretty cool considering pokemon Scarlett is based in the past, have Dreepys pre-fossil form in that game, since it's in the past, and keep the normal-looking Dreepys (with the ghost typing) in pokemon violet. Dreepys "non-ghost" form could even be a new pokemon!! Or a different form... Could even do this with all the fossil pokemon from Sword and Sheild!!!
same thing goes for genesect, would be hella cool to see:)
Those games arent based in the past or future. Theyre gonna take place at the same time. Also that would make all those forms new to the franchise and youre excluding them to one of two games
@@anthonydaquet7934 they have themes of past and future
@@NightkeeperLunala themes are not the same thing as taking place in
I just love how Pokémon like Snorunt, Burmy and Applin look exactly how you would expect them to look without their clothes. No surprises whatsoever
Not entirely on topic, but close: I want to see a Shellder that is on Slowking as a regional variant or something. It doesn’t even have to be regional. They could figure it out.
Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed you included Wormadam in this list, since it's not wearing a cloak. Rather, the cloak it has as a Burmy merges with it and becomes its skin.
Also, Burmy is a pure Bug type regardless of cloak. Its cloak only gives Wormadam a extra typing.
Fun video and great idea for a list, but it could have used a bit more research. You included a lot of obscure stuff but fumbled a bit on some basics.
I guess Spirittomb could have been like a Genie in the past and the keystone it is trapped by is like a Genie's lamp.
That drawing for snorunt IS interesting. But concept art often shows the deconstruction of a character. It’s about structure and continuity in animation and design. That is not a secret form.
according to pokemon suns pokedex, makuhita might have a different form too, since the "alolan" makuhita is way more recognized than the makuhita of its original region
What about the OG dragon from black and white, kyurem is supposed to be its form but its not the original typing for sure so it had to look different too
Also the original Legendary Beasts. While the Eevee theory kinda works, I'd like to believe they were their entirely own Pokemon before they died
Rainbow Ho-oh, maybe exist considering it's Pokedex entries, but that's simply speculation
We got Type: Full which while never sucessfully created was clearly the intended result for Type: Null / Silvally
We got Cryogonal which turns into Water Vapor during hot Summers (Weirdly not explored in the Game they were introduced in that was the only generation with seasons!)
Shadow Mewtwo while confirmed in Pokemon media, not technically confirmed in main series games
Shellder part of Slowbro is also one, however they probably can't exist without Slowpoke
Quick theory: Applin true form might be an original Dreepy. Applin is Grass/Dragon and Dreepy is Ghost/Dragon, thus Applin without the apple would probably be just Dragon. Dreepy is said to have died and awoken as a Ghost, so we can also conclude that it was originally just a Dragon. Applin's true form does look like a Dreepy...
But Applin is a worm (wyrm lol) and Dreepy is a fish (used to live in seas)
@@callmesilver2683 do they say that it was a fish??
@@francisco2759 they say it lived in the sea in PREHISTORIC eras.
@@phelps6205 Hm.... I see
Thank you for the information
Lineup lived in the sea. It's not a fish.
I imagine that snorunt, been normal grass and looking more like a coconut in warm areas.
There is also a rare hisuian hoops only found in the youtube region
The galar fossil Pokemon actually have a true form.
You just need to match the parts back to each other. It's very easy.
A Bug/Water Seaweed Cloak & Bug/Fire Obsidian or Magma Cloak Wormadam always seemed like a no Brainer to me.
Favorite is a Bug/Ice Icicle Cloak forme. Should have had that.
Well it's a bagworm, so not really found in those envirorments. Also while the Seaweed Cloak idea sounds good, I'm not sure a water based Plant is enough to warrant a Water type as it's still well a Plant. Also an insect intentionally covering itself in molten Magma just sounds like a recipe for disaster, I'm not sure Burmy would like that
@@matheussandbakk9959 Weirder Pokémon ideas exist, adapting to survive had always been a thing, even more so with regional variants.
@@slicerneons3300 True, it's obviously not out of the question, especially considering it's Pokemon, but I personally don't see this happening. Especially considering how the Burmy line is both sadly forgettable and not that popular
@@matheussandbakk9959 I am.disheartened by missed opportunities like this.
But they are a well liked part of my Fakemon list.
@@slicerneons3300 I personally think some of the teased forms will sooner or later be revealed, like for example the Magikarp, Crawdaunt, Paras and Gastrodon forms as simple Regional Variants, but also Pokemon like the Original Dragon Kyurem or the original Legendary Beasts as well the original Genesect as those are logical to introduce in for example new Legends installments
33 is an oddly specific number any reason why? Oh and great video as always
Thank you! And just because that's how many I was able to find lol
As a tangent regarding parasect;
in Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon it's further confirmed that Parasect is the mushroom because when you talk to it it says "I, the mushroom, am in total control" and it's just been something that stuck wiht me, so creepy.
Magikarp has an unseen but mentioned form aswell.
Violet: ''In the distant past, it was somewhat stronger than the horribly weak descendants that exist today.''
I believe that the Dragapult "alive" form descended into a modern Salamance, that's just a theory, tho.
I love how everyone is more excited about the mushroomless parasect and not the thinking parasitic mushroom on the loose. Before you say the mushroom died, the issue with that is parts of the decayed mushroom would still be on the parasect. Notice how in the pokedex entry that it specifically states that the mushroom is gone, not rotted. This implies there is a point where the parasite willingly leaves the host, meaning somewhere there is a puppeteering mushroom pokemon looking for a new host.
Great video so far, but my OCD is going off the charts that we is the only word not capitalized in the title.
I thought we’d see Pokémon like Grotle, who swallowed his own Energy Ball and gained abilities because of it. We only see that in the anime
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That's NOT a Theory, Wynaut and Wobbuffet's ENTIRE GIMMICK is that the blue body is a punching bag, even inflated up. The real Pokémon in the black "tail", hell, Lockstin made a theory that the tail is an "evolution" of the Unown.
Since Wynaut, Wobbuffet, and Unown all love to group together and huddle closely in caves, it would naturally make sense that the Unown, when crossing into the Pokémon World from between the Realms being forced to take shelter and toughen up, Evolved decoy bodies to take hits as Wynaut. (*This is why Wynaut's 'tail' has only one eye.)
After becoming a stronger Pokémon and unlocking a defensive ability-set, the Unown//Wynaut can Evolve again to actually protect themselves AND other Unown, etc. as Wobbuffet.
[**THIS IS WHY THE DEX has Wobbuffet AFTER Unown, they are connected in some way, at least subtly, even Pokémon confirms that...]
[Sapphire]:
*Wynaut gather on moonlit nights to play by squeezing up against each other. By being squeezed, this Pokémon gains endurance and is trained to dole out powerful counterattacks.*
[FireRed/LeafGreen]:
*It tends to move in a pack with others. They cluster in a tight group to sleep in a cave.*
[Gold]:
*It hates light and shock. If attacked, it inflates its body to pump up its counterstrike.*
[Silver]:
*To keep its pitch-black tail hidden, it lives quietly in the darkness. It is never first to attack.*
[Sapphire]:
*Wobbuffet does nothing but endure attacks - it won't attack on its own. However, it won't endure an attack on its tail. When that happens, the Pokémon will try to take the foe with it using Destiny Bond.*
[Emerald]:
*Usually docile, a Wobbuffet strikes back ferociously if its black tail is attacked. It makes its lair in caves where it waits for nightfall.*
[Diamond/Pearl/Platinum]:
*It desperately tries to keep its black tail hidden. It is said to be proof the tail hides a secret.*
[Gold]:
*Their shapes look like hieroglyphs on ancient tablets. It is said that the two are somehow related.*
[Platinum]:
*When alone, nothing happens. However, if there are two or more, an odd power is said to emerge.*
[Legends: Arceus]:
*It is hard to believe these strangely shaped Pokémon are truly living creatures. I've pointed out that the species' many forms resemble writing from other lands; no one will take me seriously.*
Mimikyu somehow did actually got revealed in an episode of the anime, i saw that in a episode of Pokémon but it is just a black cloud with red eyes, when Moewth saw that he passed away somehow, plus: we still don’t know if the cloud is just another cloak?
PLA doesn't happen 500 years in the past, it wouldn't be impossible to show the original form of spiritomb
Wormadam’s cloak is part of its body, unlike Burmy. That’s why Wormadam has never- and hopefully will never- be seen without its cloak.
"Some Pokemon Have Shells" -HoopsandHipHop
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If pokemon scarlet and violet are about past and future, that means we could see Dreepy and it's line from their past.
Wormadam's body is fused to its covering, so I think one without its cloak would just be... ah, "peeled"
Their secret evolution is something I would like to be shown
Doesn't Wormadam fuse with it's cloak uppn evolution?
Yes, PLA Confirmed that
@@DreamDevilsMultiverseOfMadness wait. Not until legends. I thought that was old fact
@@ancientbaltoy8769 no it was in the OG DPP Poke'DeX as well. It's been years since I've played them but I'm pretty sure.
i love the idea of diglets true form being a giant with the fingertips as decoys lol
im sorry bro but your reaching for ALOT of these, thought it was gonna be based off pokedex entries or information not your opinion and "looks"... dwebble... its just a natural shell that you could possibly see a dwebble without its shell like a grookey without its stick. doesnt mean its another form.
Even Snorunt isn't really a "secret" form. You can literally see on its 3D model that it's just a black ball.
Like you said, a LOT of these are really reaching out ! 😅😂
I'd like to mention that snowrunt without a cloak explains it's evolutions.
The story of mimikyu is pretty sad when you learn it sews it's disguise.
No mention of Arbok and Mantyke with region-based markings?
Also, I honestly don't think Genesect was changed much from its original form. At least one Pokedex entry implies that the cannon was the ONLY addition that Team Plasma made to it, and you do have to consider that Bug/Steel-types do exist in nature (if anything, Bug-types are the perfect case for having natural robot-like creatures, between their exoskeletons and one species of insect even being discovered to have a mechanical gear). Personally, I always saw Genesect as being a reference to the theory that technologically-advanced aliens visited the earth as far back as prehistoric times, so minus the cannon, it's pretty much the same Pokemon now as the one that existed back then.
Wynaut and Wobbufet don't belong here, even if that theory is true (and it kind of is confirmed by the Pokedex). That is their full form. The blue part isn't some random, unrelated item it hides behind or within, it is a full part of the Pokemon. We can see when looking from side and back views that it is connected. The theory is just that the tail is the main part of the body. A limb that distracts foes by looking like a full Pokemon and acts as a shield or punching bag to protect the rest of the body.
Also, I love how many of these are Pokemon with a shell of some kind, and you just assume it can exist without the shell. But you don't include the Squirtle line. And if anyone tries arguing that the shell is part of its body and it would die without it, that is literally stated to be the case for a Paras and Parasect without their mushrooms but that's listed here, and its almost certainly the case for Forretress, but its here as well. Why list Pokemon with shells of some kind, ones that quite possibly might be "removing the shell would kill it", and not others?
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Turtle shells are more like bones, actually. They can't be removed from the turtle, unlike hermit crab shells
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11:56 the art is impossible because if digglet uses copycat and copies fly it uses the move with a small piece of earth under it
Kinda surprised you didn't bring up Xerneus and Yveltal. It's more noticable with Xerneus, but both have a "neutral" form that can ONLY ever be seen in the Status screen and I think Pokemon-amie.
This form has its horns a pale shade of blue, where as in battle it becomes its Active form which has golden horns with rainbow tips.
cant wait to see what new forms awaits you later on the year
PS: with an iberian penninsula game a new Crawdant is very possible
Me: *being happy that hoops used footage from the special Pokémon MV*
For Cubone, there has been a licensed Cubone plushie that has a removable skull. I suppose you could assume that it shows the true face of Cubone without it's mother's skull in it's head.
Oh, I thought Wynaut and Wobuffet's tails were their shadows. Also the Shadow Tag ability. 🤔
Pokémon shirt just came up with a advertisement about their eco friendly shirt where you can see digglet is crawling around, it crawls across the shirt that implies its body is over the shirt means it's has legs and its very stubby
Watching it, I believe it's showing the digletts crawling through the shirt, as in the shirt breaks down for them in the same way the soil around them gets broken up as they dig forward
16:05 cmon it’s clearly a Kabutops
Kabutops is based on a horseshoe crab which isn’t an actual crab and is an arachnid and spiders and scorpions which are other arachnids have been bug type (with the exception of drapion but it’s just to make room for it’s dark type) so it was probably just a more accurate Kabutops but game freak had to change it to make genesect more unique
My headcanon reason for why you can't assemble the Galar fossils correctly is that their other halves don't exist anymore. They didn't survive the millions of years of fossilization they had to have undergone so the halves that we know and can reassemble today are all that's left. Fossils in the real world are most often never found as full skeletons, far from it. You'd be lucky enough to find even a fully preserved leg or something. That would honestly be surprisingly realistic for Pokémon and I'd like to see a pokédex entry sometime in the future confirm this.
I've seen Snorunt and Applin in their true forms from those images before ^^
Some honorable mentions shellder, cloyster, the Pokémon that turned into legendary dogs, and omastar line.
Tangela, Foretress, and Snorunt all look like they could be the same Pokémon underneath?🤔
I think in proffessor laventons entry for parasect he's implying that he found the "unmoving" dead husky left behind after the mushroom leaves