The Double Album Hangover (w/Martin Popoff)

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  • @snagmansnagman4087
    @snagmansnagman4087 2 года назад +74

    These Friday shows for me are like sitting down with two of my best mates and having a good chinwag.

    • @greensombrero3641
      @greensombrero3641 2 года назад +3

      chinwag ! haha

    • @chrismorgan7494
      @chrismorgan7494 2 года назад

      Lol. I feel the same way.

    • @purpletemple1
      @purpletemple1 2 года назад +4

      Best part of SoT in my opinion! Greatly enjoy those episodes. Cheers!

    • @PWRobinson1976
      @PWRobinson1976 2 года назад +2

      Same here ... and not only with them, but also with all of you. These shows bring us all together. 🤗

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 Год назад

      Ah, yes, I also enjoy a good meal with my buddies! Now, when you order the chinwag, do you like it spicy or mild?

  • @chutspe
    @chutspe 2 года назад +21

    "The Final Cut" is lacking the keyboards of Rick Wright. Rick was an important part of the "typical" Pink Floyd sound, so ditching him was a bad move not only on the personal side, but even more so on the musical side of things.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 2 года назад +7

      I agree, one of those very underrated but essential members of a classic band. Like John Deacon, John Paul Jones, Bill Ward.

    • @lahloonatic
      @lahloonatic 2 года назад +4

      1) have you ever tried to work with a person that has a severe depression AND a drug habit? The narrative that he was "ditched" conveniently glosses over the facts, which Richard Wright never disputed. He was pissed he was fired, but his choices didn't do him any favors.
      2) Rick was not writing much for years. So his contributions were missed, but not because he was fired. It started since the animals sessions ended, and many of the ideas that became those songs were older, performed live since 1975.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 2 года назад +2

      Hi Luis. While I am not going to contradict you about Richard Wright’s ‘condition’ toward the end of the 1970s/early 1980s, yes you make an excellent point- I do still think the fact that Rick, David and Nick all eventually ended up siding together against Roger is very telling.

  • @gregwatson3300
    @gregwatson3300 2 года назад +16

    I would love to see an episode on double albums that could have been single discs (with preferred track listing). I have done this with The White Album, Tusk, The Wall, and Quadrophenia. It's an interesting "alternate history" experiment, if nothing else.

    • @chrisdelisle3954
      @chrisdelisle3954 2 года назад +3

      What would you have removed from Quadrophenia? I can't imagine much more than "I Am The Sea."

    • @dgross2009
      @dgross2009 2 года назад

      The fact that it's so difficult a task shows why the artists went with double albums.

    • @bmardon2112
      @bmardon2112 2 года назад +2

      Totally agree with The White Album

    • @christophersorensen3338
      @christophersorensen3338 2 года назад

      I have many doubles on my list that should have been edited down to single albums

  • @MsKalachakra
    @MsKalachakra 2 года назад +9

    Martin talked about an interesting idea for a video: How bands went from the vinyl era to the CD era, maybe you could talk about the changes they made from their last vinyl album to their first CD. You could talk about the differences in cover art, length of the recording and number of songs. Also about what happened in the music world during that transition.

  • @jarneymatt2646
    @jarneymatt2646 2 года назад +13

    I look forward to these shows each week and y'all always make them entertaining. I do have an idea though, I was wondering if there would be enough material for you two to talk about bands that Pete likes and Martin doesn't and vice versa. I think it would be an interesting topic.

  • @knightvisioniixv
    @knightvisioniixv 2 года назад +4

    Fantastic and interesting topic.
    The doubles by Yes and Genesis are examples of albums that were initially ranked first or second, but have dipped a bit in my estimation over the years. I still love both Tales and The Lamb, but other albums from both respective catalogues have climbed up in my ranks. On Yes, I seem to recall a joke along the lines of "Close to the Edge was just that. Tales from Topographic Oceans was when they went over it."

  • @DonHornsby
    @DonHornsby 2 года назад +3

    I always look forward to Pete Pardo and Martin Popoff on Friday. What a great episode on double albums. Pete and Martin's discussions are gold.

  • @ericporter344
    @ericporter344 2 года назад +16

    Fun episode Pete & Martin. Double album hangover, and yet most double albums for me tend to have too much filler.

    • @simond1574
      @simond1574 2 года назад +3

      I agree. Sometimes it makes sense to grasp the whole story, but there is hardly a double album with killers only.
      The Wall or Lamb lies down would both be great 3 sided albums.

    • @dangerdolls
      @dangerdolls 2 года назад +2

      Absolutely. There are albums like the Beatles' White album (to dig at Martin some more) and Van Morrison's Hymms to the Silence and many more that if forced to trim it to a single album they would be really killer from start to finish whereas there are lots of skip-able tracks as they are.

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 года назад +2

      @@dangerdolls it's hard to complain as a music fan when you get more from a band/artist, but as we've said, most double albums fall far short of a killer single album

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 года назад +2

      @@simond1574 agree, the Wall has lost some luster for me over the years, the high points are spectacular, but too much of it fails to hold my interest

    • @michaelwright664
      @michaelwright664 2 года назад +1

      @@dangerdolls Although if you add the Singles that the Beatles recorded around the sessions of the White Album and add them onto the Album it would’ve been their biggest hit Album ( or hit double Album )

  • @scottmyers9360
    @scottmyers9360 2 года назад +3

    Let's not forget that the transitional Genesis touring drummer was Bill Bruford. Yes, Chester Thompson became their long-term drummer, but Bruford was the one that initially got them over the hump.

  • @thomaswery3087
    @thomaswery3087 2 года назад +10

    I love Goats Head Soup.Probably because I picked it up the day it was released.I remember it like it was yesterday.Went home put it on the turntable lit up with my wife and enjoyed

    • @PhilBaird1
      @PhilBaird1 2 года назад +3

      It's aged really well too. The deluxe release a year or so back was excellent.

    • @alv4794
      @alv4794 2 года назад +3

      Tough to Follow up Exile on main Street but Goats Heads Soup is the last Great Stones record...Maybe because they stopped working with Jimmy Miller?

    • @pauladams9287
      @pauladams9287 2 года назад +2

      I agree. I got it brand new when it came out and love the whole thing. Mick Taylor has some real shining moments .Hide Your Love and a 100 Years Ago have great guitar breaks.

    • @mrfunball5204
      @mrfunball5204 2 года назад

      I like It's Only Rock and Roll better, so there 🎸

  • @MartyMurray
    @MartyMurray 2 года назад +4

    I saw the tour for Genesis "Trick Of The Tail" and it was a really great show. I wish I would have seen them with Gabriel, but Phil did a fantastic job.

    • @dgross2009
      @dgross2009 2 года назад +2

      I saw them in Columbus OH in a small venue in '73 or '74 with Gabriel. Already had their albums so thought I knew what to expect but WOW!!! Gabriel was so out there it was some experience. His costumes were totally outlandish.

    • @dankelly5150
      @dankelly5150 Год назад +1

      I noticed and my friends noticed that Phil’s voice was similar to Peter’s voice so I thought that’s why the change in vocals for Genesis worked so well ! 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @binopereira8531
    @binopereira8531 2 года назад +2

    Great memories of spending Saturday afternoons at Sam the record man going through all the music in that place. Terrific episode guys.

  • @christianman73
    @christianman73 2 года назад +9

    I enjoy all of Chicago's "Terry Kath era" albums, including the first three albums, which were *all* double albums, as well as the single albums with Terry too (especially "Chicago V"). However, sadly, after "Chicago VII," their *last* double album, they lost much of the adventurous, jazzy side of the band that I loved so much. After VII, they still did jazz-rock well live, and *very* occasionally, in the studio, but it was never quite the same.

    • @angelomicciche3044
      @angelomicciche3044 2 года назад +5

      Kath and Cetera together were great.

    • @michaelwright664
      @michaelwright664 2 года назад

      Peter like Kath were rockers in secret but frustratingly was constantly pushed by the record company and sales to stick with ballads, but we always have those albums and Peter’s “Livin’ in the Limelight” 👍🏻

  • @scottmyers9360
    @scottmyers9360 2 года назад +4

    Pete's comments about not liking the reggae-ish songs on London Calling got me thinking about a possible topic: genres that you don't like except for an album (or two). For me (as an example) I have no use for "neo-prog" but I *love* Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever.

  • @paulduggan5323
    @paulduggan5323 5 месяцев назад

    Always happy to hear some love for one of my favourite Stones albums “Black And Blue”. “Goats Head” is a fantastic album, the sum of its parts are greater than its components. The opposite is true of “It’s Only Rock & Roll”, a favourite in the 70’s but today I’m less inclined to listen to it. Strip it apart and bar 2 tracks it’s full of great songs. Now there’s a possible topic if you’ve not tackle it already; albums with mainly great tracks that don’t work as a whole album.

  • @patrickwalsh3655
    @patrickwalsh3655 2 года назад +8

    With Pete on Goat's Head Soup - never understood the flak at all, full of great songs. The Clash and Sandinista? Absolutely love all 6 sides of it, unique in sound too. Just wish they'd followed it with a quadruple though, would have been hilarious, they had it in them too. Yes and Tales From Topographic Oceans - 4 tracks, 1 on each side - just love that, how prog can you get? and it's full of beautiful passages.

  • @AudriusAlkauskas
    @AudriusAlkauskas 2 года назад +1

    I appreciate that Pete allows his guests to talk about bands that he does not care for personally. The Clash is a good example. We all know Martin loves The Clash. My own history with The Clash is strange. For a long time I could not stand Joe's vocals. The Clash for me were only the songs that Mick sang (the likes of "Somebody Got Murdered" from "Sandinista" or "Train in Vain" from "London Calling"). But slowly, with time, I started to "tolerate" and even appreciate Joe's vocals and The Clash became one of my favourite bands. There is certain "raw power" and sincerity about them. It is certainly not the only band that matters, but The Clash were the real thing, and you feel this when you listen to them. Songs like "Hateful", "The Card Cheat", and a few others from "London Calling" turned me into The Clash fanatic. The success of this channel (and the reason I like it) is Pete's personality - he is sincere about things he does not like, at the same time being gracious and humble.

  • @alder456
    @alder456 2 года назад +3

    Cheers Pete & Martin. Great show as usual. Couple things:
    1) Frank Zappa’s Joe Garage was a triple album. Parts I, II, III.
    2) The Final Cut got a 5/5 rating in Rolling Stone. I remember be confused by that because I was hugely disappointed after The Wall and didn’t get it. Since then it has really grown on me as a solid Waters solo album. Add to it When the Tigers Broke Free and you have a very heartfelt letter to his father. It clicked for me after my veteran father passed away and I can’t make it through without shedding some tears. The Hero’s Return is Gilmours only moment but is solid. The Gunners Dream when Rogers voice blends into the sax. It has it’s moments. It just not a Pink Floyd album. However it’s leagues ahead of the crap that is Momentarily Lapse and lesser degree Division Bell.

    • @jmad627
      @jmad627 2 года назад

      I’ll have to dig out "The Final Cut" and give it listen. It’s been quite a long time since I heard it last.

  • @axl666axl666
    @axl666axl666 2 года назад +5

    Prince released back to back triple albums. Emancipation and Crystal Ball

  • @herrdwabash
    @herrdwabash 2 года назад +2

    My picks for double-album hangovers:
    1.) Elton John's "Blue Moves (1976)," followed up by "A Single Man (1978)"
    2.) Bob Dylan's "Blonde on Blonde (1966)," followed up by "John Wesley Harding (1967)"
    3.) Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk (1979)," followed up by "Mirage (1982)"

    • @tcanders123
      @tcanders123 Год назад

      John Wesley Harding was a masterpiece, one of Dylan's best albums.

  • @randycrooks6240
    @randycrooks6240 2 года назад +5

    Pete, Chicago Live at Carnagie was a 4 album set on vinyl.

  • @aliens_exist_23
    @aliens_exist_23 2 года назад +1

    Sandinista was very brave, following London Calling with a 3 disc set and only charging for the same as a single record album.
    Sure there's some filler on it and it would have made a GREAT single album but the fact its so packed with so much diversity is whats so cool about it.

  • @MartyMurray
    @MartyMurray 2 года назад +6

    Didn't Todd Rundgren follow up "A Wizard, A True Star" with another double album, "Todd?" I love all those records myself. I was a huge fan.

    • @ronbo11
      @ronbo11 2 года назад +1

      Correct: Something/Anything?, A Wizard..., Todd is the order of studio releases mentioned. Of those 3, I love A Wizard, A True Star the best.

  • @kevinthetruckdriver353
    @kevinthetruckdriver353 2 года назад +1

    My Five:
    Pink Floyd
    A¹)
    Double: Ummagumma
    Single: Atom Heart Mother
    A²)
    Double: The Wall
    Single: The Final Cut
    A³)
    Double: Delicate Sound of Thunder
    Single: The Division Bell
    A⁴)
    Double: Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980-81
    Single: The Endless River
    Moody Blues:
    Double: Caught Live + 5
    Single: Octave
    Bruce Springsteen
    C¹)
    Double: The.River
    Single: Nebraska
    C²)
    Double: Live/1975-85 (3 LP's)
    Single: Tunnel of Love
    Kansas
    Double: Two for the Show
    Single: Monolith
    Yes
    E¹)
    Double: Yessongs (3 LP's)
    Single: Tales from Topographic Oceans
    E²)
    Double: Yesshows
    Single: 90125
    *Note:* Only counted Live albums that charted and/or was popular.

  • @johnmichaelwilliams6694
    @johnmichaelwilliams6694 2 года назад +1

    Popoff and Pardo are at it again with some Double Album discussion. Very interesting discussion, gents. Though outside the usual SoT areas, one that comes to my mind is Stevie Wonder with the double album "Songs In The Key Of Life" followed by the soundtrack but which was issued as a Stevie Wonder Album "Stevie Wonder's Journey Through The Secret Life Of Plants." The double album a wonder (no pun intended) of genius, the second a commercial and critical slump. Thanks to Pete for including Todd Rundgren in the discussion. Wizard is not just a favorite Todd album but perhaps my favorite album period. Todd just didn't get a lot of airplay other than "Hello, It's Me" and wasn't a very well-known artist outside of that song. Thanks to Martin for sharing the communique from City Boy. Very interesting. And yep, George Harrison's All Things Must Pass was a 3-album release. A brief side note- Chicago IV was not a triple album but a quadruple LP boxed set. My teenage wallet was emptied when buying each of these at the time. Thanks once again, gents, for the interesting topic. There ya go!

  • @randyventresca4152
    @randyventresca4152 2 года назад +1

    Abbey Road is a huge, iconic album. Hit songs like Come Together, Octopuses Garden, Something, and Here Comes the Sun. I wouldn't exactly refer to it as a hangover from The White Album. Yellow Submarine wasn't really a studio album. Just a few new songs. Mostly previous released stuff and the second side was George Martin instrumental music. It was a soundtrack to the animated cartoon. Let It Be was actually recorded before Abbey Road. So, we are talking about a two year gap between the recording of The White Album and Abbey Road.

  • @erikkeller6389
    @erikkeller6389 2 года назад +5

    The Clash are such an amazing, inspirational band.

  • @Jamie.Laszlo
    @Jamie.Laszlo 2 года назад +6

    Smashing Pumpkins released one of the most popular double albums, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness. And on vinyl I think it's a triple album. It was big, complicated and heavy at times. But they followed it up with the more simple Adore that was more electronic and less full-blown rock. Being one of the most anticipated albums of 1996, it was seen as a big disappointment. And I never hear fans talk about it much these days.

    • @johansoderberg6546
      @johansoderberg6546 2 года назад

      Out of their reach. Basically I have only heard them cover 1970-1990. Sometimes Martin mentions some early grunge. Or they mention later output by bands, like Europe, who was active in this period.

  • @carlosramua
    @carlosramua 2 года назад

    Always great to watch two friends talking about music …greetings from Argentina …

  • @powrnap
    @powrnap 2 года назад +3

    Hendrix, from the lush double Electric Ladyland to the raw Band of Gypsies; ELO’s double Out of the Blue to the dance pop Discovery,; and Dylan’s double Blonde on Blonde to the sparse John Wesley Harding.

  • @herrdwabash
    @herrdwabash 2 года назад +1

    Was watching the "Amazing Journey" documentary on the Who, and Pete Townshend was was talking about following up "Quadrophenia" with "Who by Numbers." He said he was so fatigued and exhausted that there was no way he could write another rock opera concept after coming up with "Tommy," "Lifehouse (Who's Next)" and "Quadrophenia." If critics and audiences were a little tired with the Who as Martin indicated, so was Pete Townshend. That whole "Who By Numbers" album was his mid-life crisis set to music, and that's why I love that album.

  • @sylvainmclean1307
    @sylvainmclean1307 2 года назад +2

    Agree with you pete on trick of the tail album an underated album from that period its a perfect one and the followin one after too...

  • @thomasbeck2934
    @thomasbeck2934 2 года назад

    I absolutely love these Friday shows. Thanks guys! ALWAYS so insightful.

  • @tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712
    @tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712 2 года назад +2

    I can still listen to The Clash London Calling nowadays, but I could not listen to anything from Yes ever again, and I was a huge fan way back.
    London Calling cover = paying homage to Elvis Presley first album cover, check it out.

  • @jeffreyheise3377
    @jeffreyheise3377 2 года назад +2

    I love this show, and this is another great episode. Not one of my favoites, but I do appreciate The Clash, and I quite like London Calling. I love The Who, and although there are some good songs The Who By Numbers is not my favorite. I love The Stones too, but they have had their ups, and downs. I really like It's Only Rock-N-Roll, and Black and Blue is pretty good too. Todd Rundgren is a good choice. Thanks guys.

  • @rael2099
    @rael2099 2 года назад

    Frank Zappa's Lather for the question brought up in Sandinista.
    A 4 LP album that Zappa had to split into individual albums that on their own don't transmit the eclecticism of a 4LP tour de force, with the exception of Sheik Yerbouti which works as a transitional album, and a very loved one.
    The hangover for Läther would be the one and only Joe's Garage, a departure from everything Zappa had done before. The hangover for Joe's Garage would be the uninspired Tinseltown Rebellion.
    Läther would be released as a posthumous 3 cd album in the 90s with some great bonus tracks.
    My absolute fav from Zappa.
    I might be the small minority but Mellon Collie was the hangover from Siamese Dream which, for vinyl purposes was released as a double album in the age of CDs.
    The secret ingredient that made Nirvana and the Smashing Pumpkins so great and accessible was Butch Vig, someone no one brings up any more.
    Mellon Collie is a mess full of filler songs, rushed, generic songs most of them. It has some good tracks, a couple astounding ones.
    Sorry, I just still can't get into that album after decades. Nothing they would ever release after Siamese would capture the spirit of the 2 first albums.
    I agree with The Who by Numbers, it's a good album, probably their last great album although it has the evident signs of wear where the energy was gone to never come back again.
    Never again a Bargain or a Won't get fooled again or a Love reign o'er me.
    Honourable mentions for me are Captain Fantastic by Elton John following up the ambitious Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. An even more ambitious and biographical concept album that did well on the charts despite not having a big pop single in it.
    U2's Achtung Baby following up Rattle and Hum.
    I know it's a mainstream band you guys don't talk about but that album is the greatest example of how to overcome a hangover by partying extra hard, lol.
    A complete departure from the preachiness and messianic band they'd become with Joshua Tree and the pretentious double album Rattle and Hum.
    I take the XTC challenge with Apple Venus volume 1 as the hangover of Nonsuch which was released as a double vinyl back in the day. Nonsuch is what Avalon was for Roxy Music, a culmination as a more polished and accessible treat. A masterpiece.
    Apple Venus 1 is great too, although suffers a bit in spots with Moulding's songs that are totally forgettable. Apple Venus 1 would end up breaking the band in the end because Andy would become the band's Roger Waters of sorts.
    Nice show!
    Deserves a part 2, imo.

  • @TUMNIAISETU
    @TUMNIAISETU Год назад

    These shows are f@#$ing GREAT!

  • @psychedelicpunkster6840
    @psychedelicpunkster6840 2 года назад +1

    👍The Clash👍thanx Martin....

  • @DocJJohnson
    @DocJJohnson 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Pete thank you Martin

  • @TheSteveSteele
    @TheSteveSteele 2 года назад +1

    Prince’s Emancipation (and Crystal Ball, unreleased but paired down to a double for Sign o The Times), is a triple album, and a very good one at that.

  • @cezarmaatubang8236
    @cezarmaatubang8236 2 года назад +1

    Love the Abominog shirt Pete 😁

  • @MauriceHotblack
    @MauriceHotblack 2 года назад +2

    The Final Cut really speaks to me, probably because it is so morose and unhappy. I love it. And yes, I agree, it's pretty much a Waters solo album.
    The Endless River has more to do with the Metallic Spheres album that Gilmour did with The Orb than a Floyd album in my opinion.

  • @ashleygeisler1003
    @ashleygeisler1003 2 года назад

    Here are some doubles
    Cream - wheels of fire + goodbye
    Jimi Hendrix- electric ladyland + band of gypsys
    Jethro tull - living in the past + a passion play
    The sweet - strung up + give us a wink
    Peter frampton- frampton comes alive + im in you
    Led zeppelin- the song remains the same + in through the out door
    Kiss - alive + destroyer
    Alive 2 + dynasty
    Status quo- alive + rockin all over the world
    Motorhead- no remorse + orgasmatron
    Iron maiden - live after death + somewhere in time

  • @scottcarpenter6305
    @scottcarpenter6305 2 года назад +3

    22:47....Triple Studio album: Prince, "Emancipation".

  • @terrywachter
    @terrywachter 2 года назад +1

    Funny Martin mentioned going into Sam's to grab the last of the vinyl. I worked next door at A&A's, and I remember the fateful day when we were asked to pack up the vinyl section.
    I asked if we should put them in the boxes in alphabetic order, and the manager said just throw them in the boxes. A sad day.

  • @jimgroff6880
    @jimgroff6880 2 года назад +1

    Helluva podcast. Much thanks Pete and Martin👍

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil 2 года назад +2

    Quadrophenia is one of my all time favorite albums.

  • @steveclark4018
    @steveclark4018 2 года назад +4

    I love London Calling it blew me away when I first heard it over 40 yrs ago and it still does - but I also know all art is extremely subjective. Just like if you goto an art gallery with some friends everyone is not going to like all the same paintings hanging on the wall...and thats part of the beauty of art. It would be awful if we all liked exactly the same things!

  • @johnw706
    @johnw706 2 года назад

    The first concert that Genesis played with Phil as the singer was in London , Ontario . I remember reading that they wanted to have him start the tour in an area that looked very favourably towards the band ( which Ontario did ) . I was at the second concert that he sang at , which was in Toronto's Maple Leaf Gardens . It was clear that he was going over very well , and having the second drummer , in this case it was Bill Bruford , added an interesting element to the show . Fortunately , I also happened to attend the Lamb Lies Down concert with Peter a couple of years before that , which was fantastic . The shows were quite different , but both were wonderful . Cheers !

  • @EliphasDesni
    @EliphasDesni 2 года назад +1

    Azra release 8 albums in one year.
    Iron Maiden - The Book of Souls
    Iron Maiden - Senjutsu
    Prince - Crystal Ball
    Prince - LOtUSFLOW3R
    Tom Waits - Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers & Bastards

  • @Danimal77
    @Danimal77 2 года назад +1

    One listen to the last song, "Lochness" on Angel of Retribution and you know which direction they are heading going forward and sure enough, 4 years later, out comes Nostradamus.

  • @parishofrock2963
    @parishofrock2963 2 года назад +1

    I’m not a big fan of studio double albums, but the one that springs to mind is ELO Out of The Blue, followed by Discovery. OOTB is their apex IMO, full of strings & very grand. Discovery is more stripped down & influenced by disco. A hang over? Probably not but very different.

  • @Wayner71
    @Wayner71 2 года назад +1

    'Trick of the Tail' is right up there with the Gabriel-era albums. I prefer 'The Lamb" but also dig 'Trick' a lot. I missed Gabriel's deeper vocal delivery though. Cheers.

  • @christanner3761
    @christanner3761 2 года назад +1

    Great episode. Consider this, talk about Band's Double albums that actually worked and were great. Thanks.

  • @geraldhugley3618
    @geraldhugley3618 2 года назад +3

    Johnny Winter has an album that was 3 sides. Side 4 was blank.

  • @neilmiller2779
    @neilmiller2779 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing the great insights on Mutt Lange from Steve Broughton, Martin!

  • @daicullinane7746
    @daicullinane7746 2 года назад +2

    Regarding Merallica, Justice, Metallica and Load were all double albums (on vinyl in the UK).

    • @robertparks7233
      @robertparks7233 2 года назад

      Load ,and Reload so underated,Fuel,King Nothing,Hero of The Day, 🏠 that Jack Built,2/4,

  • @jlcougilljr
    @jlcougilljr 2 года назад

    great show as usual guys! love it, love it, love it

  • @IvorPresents
    @IvorPresents 2 года назад

    If my memory serves me. The Incredible String Band double Album U (1970) followed their somewhat ambitious 1970 single album. I Looked Up. It would be a new musical direction reviewed in their next studio album, Liquid Acrobat. from 1971. Their best work, was No Ruinous Feud. (1973). and I would bet that fewer than a handful will know what the heck I am talking about. lol.

  • @robertharvey2604
    @robertharvey2604 2 года назад

    Great show. My favorite double albums are: London Calling, Exile on Main street, lamb lies down, physical Grafitti, The River and The White Album. As for follow ups, I'm not a big fan of Sandinista and Nebraska and Presence. I love Goat's Head, Trick of the Tail, and Abbey Road.

  • @slammer420092
    @slammer420092 9 дней назад

    In fairness to The Astonishing, it’s better if you read the book by Peter Orullian. The story never made much sense after you read the book. Comparing it to Clockwork Angels which Neal Peart turned it into a book with Kevin Anderson did not translate as well as The Astonishing. I think The Astonishing first disc is better than people think, but the second disc kind of gets lost in the weeds. Time Left Behind is a criminally underrated song.

  • @NewMiliJayBlog
    @NewMiliJayBlog 2 года назад

    Have to thank Pete for giving me that push that finally got me to check out Priest’s Nostradamus. I downloaded it. To my surprise I really liked it. Really like the guitar work. There are things I don’t like, like the vocals. Yet I’m fine with the short comings. As I listened I imagined if this was done differently, if that was done like whatever... perfect. I like the album so much I’m thinking of getting a physical copy of it. For me, this is the only Judas Priest album I really need to have. Pete shakes his head and says, “go figure.” This is more the kind of Metal I want to hear. It’s not perfect, but there’s enough there that it can engage my mind.

  • @williamrogers626
    @williamrogers626 2 года назад +1

    Elton John's masterpiece Goodbye Yellow Brick Road followed by Caribou. Some thought Caribou was a huge let down. I personally liked Caribou.

  • @patrickmurphy1803
    @patrickmurphy1803 2 года назад +2

    I can't get exile by the stones I've listened time and time again and always end up scratching my head

    • @avlisk
      @avlisk 2 года назад

      There's a bit of amnesia when it comes to Exile. I remember it wasn't received well at the time. It took a couple of years for people to begin to rate it up there with their best. But I never warmed up to it either. It's very much like their concerts. . .pretty one-dimensional sound all the way through.

  • @mikep9377
    @mikep9377 2 года назад +2

    Tales from Topographic Oceans is a really difficult listen. I rarely go back to that one. Relayer is my favorite Yes album.

  • @paulfuller8985
    @paulfuller8985 2 года назад

    Yes Pete . I was going to mention All Things Must Pass . It's all in the studio and the third album is jam sessions . Great guitar , Clapton , Harrison and who ever was hanging around and drumming from Jim Gordon and Ginger Baker , they don't make records like that anymore .

    • @tcanders123
      @tcanders123 Год назад

      It was technically a double album with a free 3rd disc of the Apple Jams.

  • @tylerpatterson4787
    @tylerpatterson4787 2 года назад +7

    I love Presense, the one Led Zeppelin album that you don’t hear on the radio, underrated album In their catalog

    • @tylerpatterson4787
      @tylerpatterson4787 2 года назад

      Presence

    • @melaniethurber5117
      @melaniethurber5117 2 года назад +2

      I like a lot of Led Zeppelin 1,2,3,4 and Physical Graffiti. There one of my favorites.

    • @CrazyLG72
      @CrazyLG72 2 года назад

      Yep, Presence is my favorite Zeppelin album!

    • @melaniethurber5117
      @melaniethurber5117 2 года назад

      @@CrazyLG72 I've never heard that album for led zepplin. What is the songs on it.

    • @melaniethurber5117
      @melaniethurber5117 2 года назад +1

      @@CrazyLG72 some of the songs could be on celebration day. I have that one also by Led Zepplin.

  • @peterjames8039
    @peterjames8039 2 года назад +1

    Your discussion about Todd takes me back to your Epic Length Songs That Suck video, and that even after A Wizard A True Star, he decided to keep getting weirder over the next couple of years, which eventually culminated with A Treatise On Cosmic Fire on the Initiation album. It's almost like with each album after Something/Anything, he was taking steps to try and scare off all his mainstream followers. If none of them were turned off by A Wizard A True Star, he then hoped he could scare them off with the Todd album, and if that wasn't successful in scaring them off, he hoped that the first Utopia album would do just that, and if they somehow weren't turned off by that album's weirdness, he then put out Initiation to make sure he finished them for good. I personally think he was just testing his fans' loyalty, because after Initiation, he gradually went back to putting out more radio friendly material again, like Hermit Of Mink Hollow and all the later Utopia albums.

    • @reclaimerReclaimer
      @reclaimerReclaimer 2 года назад +2

      I really love the 1974 Todd album, also a double album it seems massively underrated to me.

    • @peterjames8039
      @peterjames8039 2 года назад +1

      @@reclaimerReclaimer Todd was actually intended to be a single vinyl album. It is in fact the same length as Initiation which came out as a single vinyl release the following year. When CDs came about however, Todd was finally issued as a single disc release as it originally should have been.

    • @reclaimerReclaimer
      @reclaimerReclaimer 2 года назад +1

      @@peterjames8039 Yes, originally though it is a 2-LP.

  • @christophersorensen3338
    @christophersorensen3338 2 года назад

    I never knew ...And Justice For All was a double until I bought it on vinyl a month ago. Back when it was released, it was on ONE Tape and ONE CD.

  • @PWRobinson1976
    @PWRobinson1976 2 года назад +1

    You are not in the minority, Martin. I love "Black and Blue". "Hand of Fate" and "Memory Motel" are masterpieces on that album!

  • @martymartin2894
    @martymartin2894 2 года назад +8

    Metallica's black album is in my definition of heavy. Definitely the most sonically sounding heaviest of Metallica's album it sounds great and i dont understand some of the hate it gets its a great album.

    • @mike04574
      @mike04574 2 года назад +2

      top 3 metallica album

  • @joepalmer3795
    @joepalmer3795 2 года назад +1

    Zappa's Joe's Garage is kind of a triple album. Originally released as a single and a double shortly after, but then quickly repackaged. Lather is a quadruple album but a good chunk of it is live.

  • @sabyrk
    @sabyrk Год назад

    The thing with Topographic Oceans isn't just the length, but that it kind of lacks focus and a sense of direction, whereas Relayer is equally epic but has a ton of energy and drive.
    Justice For All isn't actually a double album -- at least by late-'80s standards, and by Metallica album-length standards. It was released as a double-disc >record< because they pressed it at 45 rpm so as not to compromise sound quality. There would have been issues had they pressed it onto a single vinyl record.
    Load and Reload are both way longer, but no one considers them double albums -- in fact, quite the opposite. They're considered a double-album package >together< which means that each one is considered a single half of a double album.
    A lot of it was that Justice straddled the cd era but also that Metallica albums had all been long up to that point anyway.

  • @MetalMan73100
    @MetalMan73100 2 года назад

    George Harrison´s first solo album, All Things Must Pass from 1970, is a triple vinyl album, also available as a 2CD. Also, I bought the Black Album when it was brand new in 1991. The vinyl was a double, while the CD was a single release, as was the cassette release. Same thing went for Use Your Illusion I & II, and U2´s Rattle and Hum from three years earlier - single CD but double vinyl. Some bands had that in their contracts, that they wanted the vinyl to have a certain standard of fidelity, meaning bigger grooves, hence double vinyl as opposed to single CD. Nothing wrong with that!

    • @tcanders123
      @tcanders123 Год назад

      ATMP was technically a double album with a free 3rd disc of the Apple Jams.

  • @iliummetalaustralia
    @iliummetalaustralia 2 года назад +1

    actually, the black album was released as a double vinyl at the time :)

  • @VanlifeNoonan77
    @VanlifeNoonan77 2 года назад

    Way to go Martin !! THE CLASH are the. Best ,,,, sorry Pete Husker Du ZEN Arcade number two - seen both live in Boston .

    • @stephenwalsh4392
      @stephenwalsh4392 2 года назад +1

      Lucky man - no kidding i think i'd swap all the gigs I've seen (about 200) to have seen The Clash.

  • @MrMusic193
    @MrMusic193 2 года назад +5

    I think of Frampton Comes Alive. It was followed up with "I'm In You". Although, it was an ok album, can't even touch the live album. Maybe not a fair comparison, but it's what I could think of at the moment.

  • @maccabeus627
    @maccabeus627 Год назад

    Love the show. "Have one on Me" by Joanna Newsome was a triple album. I believe "Emancipation" by Prince was as well.

  • @christianhaynes1954
    @christianhaynes1954 2 года назад

    Favorite show of the week dudes !

  • @wernermoritz882
    @wernermoritz882 2 года назад

    The weather part was particularly excellent in this episode.

  • @kenl2091
    @kenl2091 2 года назад

    Thanks for clarifying the Beatles situation, Martin. All is forgiven but I'm still not sure whether you or I misunderstood the concept of last week's topic - I had read it as 'only one album that you liked and the rest were average/poor' but you seem to have interpreted it as 'one album that towers above the rest in my opinion' As four Beatles' albums get 10/10, in my opinion, and the rest get between 7 and 9/10, I can understand the mini-furore that your choice caused. Anyway, I might comment on this week's topic when I've heard the rest of the video.

  • @sydneyhalliwell2513
    @sydneyhalliwell2513 2 года назад

    Your videos and great discussions always make my day

  • @weatherered
    @weatherered 2 года назад +2

    What? No mention of Trout Mask Replica and Lick My Decals Off, Baby?

  • @shyshift
    @shyshift 2 года назад +1

    Kevin Godley & Lol Creme:Consequences is a triple vinyl album.

  • @jeffreywebb7932
    @jeffreywebb7932 2 года назад

    Talk about a contrarian,Martin,my buddy is a true contrarian.He swears Nostrodamus is a masterpiece.He loves it.His favorite ThinLizzy album is Chinatown.Cool shirt,Pete.Great vid as always.Popoff&Pardo are hit.🤘

  • @alv4794
    @alv4794 2 года назад +1

    If you take The Kinks Preservation Act 1 and then Preservation act 2 and 3..which was a double album..then that's a sort of Triple Studio album...kinda.

  • @alanthorne3921
    @alanthorne3921 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with Pete.I was a teenager when punk happened in 76.I loved the Pistols,Damned,Jam,Ramones,etc but couldn’t take to the Clash.I now have London Calling and Sandinista on cd replacing my long lost vinyl copies.I still don’t get it.The first lp is worse.Give ‘em Enough Rope is ok.

  • @woutwout8398
    @woutwout8398 2 года назад +1

    The Black Album by Metallica is a double album too. I have the original vinyl from 1991.

  • @drummer78
    @drummer78 2 года назад

    It also must be remembered that the “The Who by Numbers” was released just in the immediate wake of “The Tommy” film. The film put a lot of focus on Roger as a film star and the band were trying to figure out their next move as they had been so focused on the making and release of the “Tommy” film. Also, Keith Moon had moved to LA and was working on a solo album plus causing all sorts of mayhem. Additionally, John had touring and losing money with The Ox band. Finally, the album was recorded when Pete and Roger were duking against each other it out in British music press. It was definitely a fraught/uncertain period for the band and Pete’s lyrics reflect it.

  • @inmyhouse11
    @inmyhouse11 2 года назад

    Friday at the Funhouse should be expanded to a daily show. Always entertaining and great. Still waiting for Pete to be a guest on the Contrarians

    • @chriswoosley3883
      @chriswoosley3883 2 года назад

      agreed,like it better than HVS,more down to business here,.less B.S.

  • @mikesitzler1106
    @mikesitzler1106 2 года назад

    George Harrison's album "All Things Must Pass" is a triple album. It's still considered his classic. The first two discs are original studio stuff/songs that were rejected for Beatles albums. The third disc includes lengthy jam sessions that are instrumental, one amusing hidden track about John Lennon's 30th birthday, and that's it. The third disc may not be your cup of tea if you don't like bands jamming for extended lengths of time. So there's that.

    • @tcanders123
      @tcanders123 Год назад

      It was technically a double album with a free 3rd disc of the Apple Jams.

  • @davidmorris5215
    @davidmorris5215 2 года назад +1

    Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness followed by Adore

  • @bluejayfan5584
    @bluejayfan5584 2 года назад

    Yes Clash blew their brains out on Sandinista. They impressed with that but you kind of knew it was going to run out of gas. They opened for the Who in Toronto earlier in their career. Very cool band.

  • @ArthurNiehaus-xt9rv
    @ArthurNiehaus-xt9rv Год назад

    Exile on Main St is the culmination of the Stones career, specifically from where they started with Beggars Banquet. With Banquet through Sticky Fingers they did interpretations of American music. With Exile they matured, the influences are there but they don’t sound like interpretations anymore. They are making music equal to those influences. They melded all those influences into something new. A great record, one of the greatest albums of all time. Goats Head Soup is probably the greatest downfall in rock history. The Stones went from Exile to making imitations of their of interpretations. Calculated music, and it goes on to this day.

  • @captainbeyond7469
    @captainbeyond7469 2 года назад +1

    The Who By Numbers is actually my favorite Who album go back to it more than any other Who album.

    • @tylerpatterson4787
      @tylerpatterson4787 2 года назад

      That’s a good album, but I would prefer Who’s Next over the double album Tommy, besides the three songs that are overplayed, you got bargain, my wife, getting in tune

  • @philjones45
    @philjones45 2 года назад +1

    I saw Priest here in the UK promoting Nostradamus. I travelled to Manchester to see them, only to find out the gig had been moved last minute to a smaller venue. We got there just in time. They played a lot of Nostradamus, but what I remember the most was how bad Rob Halford was, seemed utterly disinterested. I quite like Nostradamus, if Spinal Tap made a concept album, they'd have made this.Seriously though it's a nice album, I'm amazed Pete dislikes it.

  • @harizonflamingice3167
    @harizonflamingice3167 2 года назад +1

    I think Nostradamus might be my favorite of the Priest albums that I consider not good, which I know isn't saying much but I do respect it for what it is and think it would've been at least a tolerable single album. I almost feel like Nostradamus is to Judas Priest what Quantum of Solace is to James Bond (same year, too, 2008), although of the two I'd much rather watch that film again since I do have a really bizarre soft spot for that film and there are quite a few Priest albums I prefer over Nostradamus in each era. I think I have a higher chance of hearing Nostradamus than Dream Theater' Astonishing, though.

  • @brucybabyy7355
    @brucybabyy7355 2 года назад +2

    when a band pulls a " Nostradamus" or " the astonishing " do you respect them more or less for doing it? I'm in the more camp.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 2 года назад +2

      More- there is nothing wrong with ambition even if a band doesn’t pull it off.

    • @brucybabyy7355
      @brucybabyy7355 2 года назад +1

      @@jimmycampbell78 absolutely 💯

  • @peteygemini60
    @peteygemini60 2 года назад +1

    Goats Head Soup my favourite. Joel Plaskett did a triple album.

  • @ukrocksounds3419
    @ukrocksounds3419 2 года назад +1

    Martin or Steve, love to see that Kate Bush Song or Album ranking. She was the first female visionary, as Bowie was in a male context, tho more lesser in the US. Yes its somewhat out of the rock genre. Maybe Pete should watch the Babooshka video to win him over.