Extreme Trolley Problems Pt 2
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- A part two of the extreme trolley problems video with more scenarios that may question your morality and what the value of a human life truly is.
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Extreme Trolley Problems Pt 2 Transcript:Extreme trolley problems pt 2
Hey you, you might be wondering how you got here but don’t worry today we will be having fun by taking some time out to question morality and the value of human life through the medium of trolley problems, if you don’t know what the trolley problem is go watch part 1 its all there but the basic premise is that you have to choose which track you send the train by pulling a lever with different outcomes depending on the problem. Lets start with an easy one okay, there are 4 people on track 1 and nobody on track 2 however if you pull the lever the train will not do a cool loop de loop that is on track 1, do you pull the lever to save lives but make life a little less cool knowing that a train will never do a sick as hell trick and its now your fault. Im going to pull the lever and then save some lives and you might think its because im a humanitarian but actually its because animating a trolley to do a loop de loop is pretty hard, actually… you know what no ill try and learn a new skill let me send it down track 1 so we get a cool show. (trolley does the loop de loop off screen) Wow that is the coolest thing I have ever seen imagine not being able to see this from where you are currently watching from that would be such a letdown. Our next trolley problem only has a single track and the trolley is slowly travelling down with an infinite number of people tied to the track slowly getting killed, you have a lever that you can pull which stops the train at any point however it will cause the train company to lose profits and shareholder value will be reduced, do you pull the lever knowing that you will be taking money away from poor shareholders? You see me I wont be pulling the lever and that may or may not be influenced by the fact that im a large shareholder in trolley incorporated, but theres quite a simple fix if you have the inclination to stop the train for whatever reason, Stoic Stick Co have designed their new morality blocking shield, its essentially a giant black tarp that we put over the track so that you cant hear or see the people, now isnt that much better, if we cant see or hear them then do they really exist? That’s a whole different moral quandry that we don’t really have time for. cool So our next problem has 4 people on track 1 and no one on track 2 however there is a police officer standing near the lever, you attempt to pull the lever to divert it away from track 1 however you did not file the required paperwork with the local government so do not actually have your lever pulling license, for this the police officer then arrests you and sends you to prison, whilst in prison you also do not have your prison license to which the prison guards come in and fine you every 3 hours. The people on track 1 are probably dead and you are now in crippling debt, but the bureaucrats in government have reduced permit related crimes by a whopping 0.9% last quarter so really it’s worth it in the end if you think about it. Trolley problem 4 doesn’t actually involve a trolley it involves a steam engine, on the track there is 4 people tied on the track 1 and no one on the track 2, do you pull the lever? Now most will probably say yes but if you pull the lever the steam engine driver will call you anti-steamitic and says that he is one of the chosen people…. By the government to drive this train over that track. He also claims that there is a train saboteur on the track and that it is his fault that the other 3 people will be killed. You protest saying that, that’s kind of stupid so you pull the lever and no one gets killed by the steam engine. But that’s not the end of this tale, you are then approached by the pro steamification league who reach out to your employer to get you fired for being an anti-steamite because if they don’t fire you the PSL will organise a mass train boycott on your company effectively bankrupting it. So now you are fired but atleast you have the moral high ground knowing that you saved 4 people’s lives, and as it turns out there was no train saboteur so in the end you at least get to keep your conscience. Actually, no,it turns out that the PSL has ties to weapons manufacturers in the US and has ordered a hellfire missile strike on the train tracks killing everyone so I guess it was all for nothing.Up next is a trolley problem that you the viewer are actually participating in, on track 1 we have the 1 guy who doesn’t watch my videos and on track 2 we have 4 viewers of mine including you, now you may see this and think hah what an easy choice hes going to send it down track 1 and save his viewers.
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What if instead of the Trolley Problem, it was the Freaky Problem, and instead of pulling levers, we pulled each others levers
Would it be much of a problem though 🤨
@@WhyRBXnah I’d win
@@WhyRBX💀
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“Iwokeupandigotfreshashellonamonday”
Nobody is added to track 2 to save my family. I’ll just say “No balls, you won’t pull the lever”
I pull the lever
In that case it can still mean that they are calling the woman weak or something (I don't know what else it could mean) unless they pull the lever. And it would have basically the same affect as a dare, however I'd pull the lever if there was nobody on the second track (if I know nothing about someone then I wouldn't assume they are good or evil. I would pull the lever on the assumption they are just normal people who are just trying to live there life. Though on the other hand I don't need validation from others which makes me have some reason to not pull the lever out of spite, in the end though I'm not the type to kill someone's family especially for something one person did)
2:35 Prison License has gotta be the most insane thing ive heard all year and I love it
I imagine this actually happened in the past
The lever is phallic shaped, therefore pulling the lever is like pulling another man's co-
5 seconds are up :(
Plot twist: the lever moans and shoots white birth juice in the air like a gun
Therefore we kick it instead
Therefore we kick it instead
@@h20dynamoisdawae37 but that would be gay as that would be cbt
What if you’re the 10% of stoic stick enjoyers who is a woman
1 million rentoids who don’t tip on track 2
I pull the lever
NOT THE ANTI STEAMITE LMAOOOO BASED
god's chosen choo choo
These trains have been banned in 109 countries, but it is not their fault.
steam engines will not replace us
@@abdulwahabjag diesel engines are being replaced with handcarts
@@user-hm1zb8js5i. it's all fun and jokes until this guy comments on the reply with that pfp
Quick question, do you have your moral conundrum licence? Thought not, fine em boys
The homeless guy employed by you to commit small, gross acts is one of the of, if not the best character in the stoic stick cinematic universe
On the track
Man number 1- did not increased rent for single mom
Man number 2- He is okay, nice guy
Man number 3- He is not evading taxes
Man number 4- Is a women
Man number 5- Is melanino postive
Roam through the streets of Jerusalem. Investigate; search in her squares. If you find one person, any who acts justly, who pursues faithfulness, then I will forgive her.
gotta do it for man 2
@Dducksquad Well, I can agree with that. But I would also like to mention he who blasphems the against the son of man can be forgiven. He who blasphems against the father will not be forgiven. There are a few sins that are unforgivable.
I put every other Sam'ONella clone, including Sam himself on the track. Pulling the lever removes your entire competition, ensuring all their viewers flock to your channel. You become the next MrBeast and my family is saved.
The trolley problem, Sisyphus pushing a boulder, the grand hilbert hotel, and the ship of Theseus all-in-one!!! Sounds like a philosopher's dream!!!
You could probably also sneak in Achilles and the tortoise, like how close must Sisyphus get to the ship or the hotel before the Boulder rolls back on him? Theoretically there’s infinitely small measures of distance you could measure between himself and the “finish line” so to speak, so at what point will the Boulder roll back? Idk I’m not a philosopher if you couldn’t tell lmao
There are 5 Siamese twins, which makes you curious as to if you get 5 or 10 kills despite there being 5 bodies.
0 because Siamese twins don’t qualify as humans
So,for the problem at 7:14 I'm putting superman + 4 civilians on the other track, superman will stop (and destroy) the trolley, saving the other 4 people.
don't worry, the trolley has been insured specifically against superheroes (a couple months prior not to raise suspicion), so the trolley company would earn a bunch of money from this not insurance fraud
yeah but the trolley was made out of kryptonite and killed earths greatest hero and the planet is taken over by alien invaders
I wouldn't pull the lever
I would pull the lever because I am a massive shareholder.
Bro, when are you making the race tier list?
I need to know where i stand.
Real he needs to rank them like a video game class
As long as he doesn't put rally racing anywhere lower than S-tier I'm glad.
I just want to be above English speaking Canadians. And i'll be happy.
@@christophelarochelle8052you can be above ontario
ok so this is very racist and definitely shouldn't be done but let's say in a hypothetical scenario where you had to do it unless the world would implode
1. asians: bigger brain, americans simp for them for some reason, not that much discrimination
2. white: white privilege however it got nerfed in the 2020 patch making the class no longer meta
3. black: high physical stats, can get a budget version of white privilege against white women however really suffers from the racism debuff
idk the other races
7:50 on track 2 you can see the train doing a loopy loop without killing anybody, and my family is in track 1
the israel palestine trolley problem, what an explanation
i thought the same, such a great metaphor
nah u just dont understand war and arent comfortable with the fact that jews arent gonna allow a second holocaust. like the nazi/terrorism apologists are pretty insane and concerning ngl
Cringe and incorrect metaphor by people who get their middle east knowledge from Al-Jazeera and Vox
@@o11k *great metaphor for pro palestine people, i wouldn‘t consider myself this
Broken metaphor from someone who obviously does not understand the issue.
Top 1000 wealthiest people on track 2 but whoever is pulling the lever is the soul recipient of all of their wills
This is a win fucking win
@@Xenon_Protobut you get nothing. It’s the guy who pulls the lever that gets it
Wow you would need to pick a heartless person to kill 1000 people for money
As for the problem at 6:48, I've tied 42 FBI agents involved in your daily dose of healthy government-mandated surveillance along with 3 stock market underminers to track 2. On top of that, there are 56 unnamed people on track 2 who are not subscribed to Stoic Stick, and 13 who do not return their shopping carts and just leave them in the parking lot.
Lever pulled
AIPAC trolly problem goes crazy
MY family on one track, the other track has a million people on it. I tell you to pull the lever because you'll never get the chance to see such a bloodbath again.
That was a pretty sick loop-de-loop animation. Have you ever considered working for Mappa?
Really love the Total Crime graph, very funny.
Number 2 I would stop it instantly, let the shares drop to rock bottom buy up as much as I can, flip the switch again and profit. The shopping cart one I do every time, it's a grocery cart and a bobsled at the same time.
Amazing video, already finished it
7:50 Probably just a member of the IRS on track #2
If i say I pull the lever it might be taken as a threat lol so lets just say no comment
7:50 All of the people on track 2 knowingly traumatized their own children and perpetuated the cycle of abuse
We are pro generational trauma on this channel so I dont pull the lever
I just love your stoic stick❤
im suxxing on it rn
Fill me up and go faster😩😩😩💦💦💦
0:35 will the loopty loop revive the guys and do something good?
1:38 are the infinite people the shareholders? If yes, you should pull the lever. If not, you have an infinite army still.
4:56 can I move off the track?
5:32 Legally you should just walk away.
7:56 71,5 + π - 3 loopty loop destroyers on track two.
I tie the warrant for your arrest to the second track; if you pull the lever then all evidence of you being a criminal is gone because they forgot to store it in an online database.
interesting scenario at 3:10, I wonder which geopolitical issue its based on :Clueless:
I would tie the like and subscribe buttons to the tracks to that when the trolley rolls over them the video performs better in the algorithm.
I will short $TRLY and then pull the lever to stop the train.
on one track there is my family,on the other is a brick wall.
pulling the lever will make the trolley crash(a trolley emmits 100kg of co² per year killing 5people over the course of 30 years)
The first track will have the family, the second will have your entire local parliament. Easiest choice of my life, House of Lords, here I come!
In order for Sisyphus to reach the point where he rolls back down the track, he would first have to get to the halfway point, then the halfway point between the halfway and end point, then the halfway point between that point and the end point, and so on. He will logically never reach far enough to roll back down in the first place.
7:57 On the other track is the entirety of current American national politicians
Track 1: no one is at risk, no lives will be lost, but you will be equal in wealth and power to everyone, you won't be able to rule over anyone.
Track 2: You will be wealthier than anyone else, and will have power to shape society and other people's lives, ruling everything, but many people will suffer either by dying or by impoverishment.
3:37 Bro what the flip 💀😭
We must combat anti-steamitism ✊🏻
Together we can fix this
@@CCMapping yo wsp
There's a philosophical question to be asked within your decision to return the shopping cart while not saving the one guy that keep standing on track. It is apparent that they may have mental issue while it's clear that you're not the one who use shopping cart . This might be a social commentary on how people prefer to adhere to rule instead of morality
I can’t relate. As an American, I don’t need a prison license. Rotting in an overcrowded correctional facility is my god given right and one that every American is proud to exercise, if our incarceration rates are any indication.
I love watching your videos while eating theyre the best
All ai Sam o’nella clones/contet farms are on track two
Pull
81 million normal people on track 2. You may be a mass murderer by diverting the trolley to the second track, but you'll be world famous for having the highest death toll on your name.
Its a good day when stoic stick drops a video.
7:55
The other track has everyone in the world that isn't subscribed. You now have the opportunity to become the king of the new world run with only those you know like you.
Counter-argument: Nuh uh
Damn you perspective! Damn you! (This user was unable to see the train loop)
2:28 UK moment, I hate forgetting my lever-pulling licence, always leave it at home when I need it!
69 Sextillion views in 69420 seconds bro didn’t fell off 😊
Damn that's crazy. I thought I saw my own comment for a sec there.
@@murkorus7147 Am you from the future 🫥
we mastering in Psychology with this one bois
as of may 17th this is our 1844th year without you. you will be missed
ah yes, moralmaxxing
6million criminals on track two, my family on track one
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂underrated comment
that sounds a little steep, I'd say the line is at around 271,000
6 million criminals? In 5 meters of track? No freaking way.
You see, if you switch the track, you'll ve the god of the new world
@@crazeelazee7524 I imagine them getting compressed into a blackhole
in Jordan b Peterson's book, "Maps of meaning", there is the most extreme example of the trolley problem, it goes like this:
A brain in a vat is at the wheel of a runaway trolley, approaching a fork in the track. The brain is hooked up to the trolley in such a way that the brain can determine which course the trolley will take. There are only two options: the right side of the fork, or the left side. There is no way to derail or stop the trolley, and the brain is aware of this. On the right side of the track there is a single railroad worker, Jones, who will definitely be killed if the brain steers the trolley to the right. If Jones lives he will go on to kill five men for the sake of thirty orphans (one of the five men he will kill is planning to destroy a bridge that the orphans’ bus will be crossing later that night). One of the orphans who will be killed would have grown up to become a tyrant who made good, utilitarian men do bad things, another would have become John Sununu, a third would have invented the pop-top can.
If the brain in the vat chooses the left side of the track, the trolley will definitely hit and kill another railman, Leftie, and will hit and destroy ten beating hearts on the track that would have been transplanted into ten patients at the local hospital who will die without donor hearts. These are the only hearts available, and the brain is aware of this. If the railman on the left side of the track lives, he, too, will kill five men-in fact, the same five that the railman on the right would kill. However, Leftie will kill the five as an unintended consequence of saving ten men: he will inadvertently kill the five men as he rushes the ten hearts to the local hospital for transplantation. A further result of Leftie’s act is that the busload of orphans will be spared. Among the five men killed by Leftie is the man responsible for putting the brain at the controls of the trolley. If the ten hearts and Leftie are killed by the trolley, the ten prospective heart- transplant patients will die and their kidneys will be used to save the lives of twenty kidney transplant patients, one of whom will grow up to cure cancer and one of whom will grow up to be Hitler. There are other kidneys and dialysis machines available, but the brain does not know this.
Assume that the brains choice, whatever it turns out to be, will serve as an example to other brains in vats, and thus the effects of its decision will be amplified. Also assume that if the brain chooses the right side of the fork, an unjust war free of war crimes will ensue, whereas if the brain chooses the left fork, a just war fraught with war crimes will result. Furthermore, there is an intermittently active Cartesian demon deceiving the brain in such a way that the brain is never sure that it is being deceived.
Question: Ethically speaking, what should the brain do?
6:42 always return them and this is why 😂 my partner isn’t the biggest fan of my trolley antics, surprised I haven’t fallen off or crashed into a random yet 😂
4:51 i offer
You recieve: nothing
I recieve: everything
Really glad to see
Homeless As A Service is a constant in the Stoicstickverse
On track 2: Three knife wielding people tied loosely who will get payed 1,000,000 if they free themselves and pull the lever, however necessary.
What I take from this is that rail based transit is dangerous and should be banned. No one will be run over by a trolley on my watch! Gonna be one of those Dr Who "everone lives" moments and they'll all stand and clap.
Option 3: I procure my legally acquired train derailer from my car and derail every scenario.
Become ungovernable, become the derailman
I have an easy way to argue for why my family should be spared. On the second track I'd put people like Hitler and Stalin (in addition to some of the other most evil dictators in history), and if you pull the lever then no more evil or corruption will exist from this point onwards throughout history and you will be remembered throughout history as the one who pulled the lever till the end of the universe
This is gonna be good…
Btw first (and good content btw keep it up!)
We’re really trolleymaxxing with this series now
I wonder if the steam engine trolley problem is a metaphor for a real life situation currently occurring...
I swear, these trolleys give a lot of problems
"ok so basically the reason you shouldnt pull the lever is because ill donate an even larger amount and will threaten into paying you"
Track 1: My family
Track 2: The man who is responsable for Socrates death, Justin bieber 2010 and he is sing Baby, Zeus, a giant moskito and Steve Buscemi
Will you pull the lever?
legend has it, if you pull the lever midway through the shift, the trolly will do a sick drift across both rails and you win a prison licence.
There are two tracks and a train. The train is heading to track 1.
Track 2 has the lever that will move the train there. This lever is special because someone put really sticky gorilla glue on it. There isn’t anytime to use an alternative, you have to use your bare hands.
On the first track is every single human being on this planet. Every good person who has dedicated their life to help each other, as well as every single person who dedicated their lives and talents to make others miserable. People who did it for fun or for personal reasons. Terrible people in high status of power. Terrible people who have become terrible because of others who wronged them.
Would you pull the lever?
Crazy opinion but I’m starting to enjoy this just as much if not more than the mythical Sam
for second problem, i wouls pull the lever, wait for stocks to go down, buy a crapton of them, and pull again and sell them, then repeat.
The trolley problem, I would place the ark of the covenant, a penny, and Greg on the track so as to blind the driver and send him off of the tracks where Greg would inevitably run to so that Greg dies but it looks less deliberate for corporate appearance sake, keeping the $TRLY stocks soaring.
While my family may ve tied to one of the tracks, I have tied 5 people to the other track that falsely copyright strike videos on youtube for their own profit. The choice if yours.
My family is on one side and Drake is on the other. Pull the lever. NOW.
You deserve more subs bro these last few videos have been mad funny
10 policemen that pulled of a sting operation, taking all of the crack from the home less. This will impact your homeless drive by shiting operation.
Will you pull the lever to save my family
I add a really annoying 12 year old to track 2, then i bribe the lever puller with 200k
You always go for the looptie-loop. I'm still a Humanitarian! I'm just more of a looptarian!
And you know, if you run down your subscribers, they can't unsub! I understand the logic.
The answere to this problem is simple and always the same:
Do nothing !!! Why ??? It´s because of how laws are working.
Use the tricker means YOU are responsible for people dying => You are technical a murder => Prison.
Do nothing means someone else is responsible and you are NOT in prison.
If stoic stick is tied to the track and the trolley can be switched to an empty line, I would not pull the lever 😎
I will not elaborate
eat them all (Protein)
Nah please make these videos way more often my supreme leader, would appreciate it.
capitalism explained in 9:23 minutes
00:02 Exploring morality through trolley problems
01:11 Decision to pull lever vs. company profits
02:20 Unauthorized lever pulling leads to arrest and debt
03:33 Dilemma: Do you save one person who doesn't watch your videos or four viewers, including yourself?
04:44 Ethical dilemma of pulling the lever.
05:55 Choosing between societal duty and personal gain
07:06 Exploring extreme scenarios in trolley problem
08:17 Decision to divert or not
Crafted by Merlin AI.
Satire?
@@goldenfiberwheat238 skibidi level 200 rizz
Oh snap, I bet that kid who derailed a train in Ohio last month was just trying to run a trolley experiment.
Conclusion;
Being caught pulling the lever on camera gets you arrested and ridiculed on the internet. 2/10 do not recommend.
Maybe it isn’t about the trolleys, but about the problems we made along the way.
Me when i move from the UK to America: 6:07
You are an ethics professor. There is nobody on the tracks. Do you put someone on the tracks to save your career?
We are making the right completely ethical and non controversial creator famous
6,000,000,000 views -7,000,000 seconds bro fell on
6 million views in only 5 minutes how does he do it
Hi guy, do you know maybe where i can order 6 milion pizzas? I have only 5 hours to party...
@@zebulaun271k max
Instead of criminals what if we include all of Wall Street ?
I dont want a wife or kids, i just say “don’t pull the lever”
The trolly problems were the friends we made along the way
It they are on the tracks, then they are on the tracks for a reason, and we should not interfere with whatever reason they were placed on the track.
5:10 I literally subscribed bro you're just cruel
What if the lever was linked to an "useless machine", activating it will trigger a mechanical arm to reset its position ?
(Thus making your choice pointless)
Track one has 4 people and track two is empty, however to pull the lever you need to end your mewing streak
Do you end the streak to save them?
4 family members vs whole congress while in house with sick spiral track but if the person doesn't pull the leaver both of you get to be members of congress for life due to being survivors of the second biggest attack on democracy and earning $10 mil a year on $200k a year salary.
Steam locomotives have been lever pulled on 109 tracks but it’s never their fault?
*I cant be an anti steamite I already am part of the community*