Yeah What the heck storm! In a school of learning to control powers, learning to use them responsibly sounds like a perfect fit! ... Just remembered Storm typically alters weather drastically without consideration for environmental consequences. And commonly refers to herself as a "Goddess" to her enemies... Something tells me she thinks herself above such things like "restraint" and "responsibility".
@@boostsix8367 Never read the comics but according to my dad, who has, Storm wasn't a typical mutant. She was actually a reincarnation of an African Goddess who could control the weather.
Storm: Our powers are a gift! We should cherish it and put it above everything else! Spider-Man: Okay kid's, most of you can level a city or even tear the world apart in seconds... Let me explain to you all why that is a bad idea and why your power comes with a great responsibility to those around you. Storm: ... Listen here you little-
WIth Storm's backstory of her being extremely irresponsible with her powers within her first few pages, she should've been on SPider-man's side from the start. Whoever wrote the story needed to do their homework better.
@@tatalsabaI hate how Marvel has been turning a lot of female characters who were once very nice and decent in freaking jerks. Like Storm at this point should have been humbled after how irresponsible she was in her youth.
That phrase from Storm always makes me laugh, considering she said that in front of Rogue. You know the poor girl thqt probably has trauma after accidentally killing his boyfriend with her powers that she can not stop. That make her have to avoid physical contact 90% of thr time with everyone.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 Yeah, both the editors and writers need to understand the characters and their history, else their work will feel off and the readers will be let down, just take a look at Zeb Wells run on Amazing Spider-man, it's just atrocious what he's done with Mary Jane, and every other character.
Yeah it's during one where Jean swaps Peter and Logans minds to teach Logan a lesson, not even caring about what it would do to Peter or how it would affect him.
An issue of Ultimate Spider-Man. It was the conclusion of a two-parter where Logan and Peter had somehow swapped bodies (including a frankly vile scene of Logan trying to get MJ to sleep with him despite both her and Peter being teenagers). In the end the X-Men show up on Peter's front lawn with their freaking jet. Jean admits she did this as a prank on Logan (I think it was because he kept perving on her) because he hates Peter (not caring how it potentially wrecked havoc on Peter's life), and the X-Men told Peter not to worry about them potentially exposing his identity because Jean was telepathically making all of his neighbors ignore/forget the X-Men showing up on his front lawn. Peter then tells them exactly what awful people they are (except poor Colossus who just got out of the jet and has no idea what's happening or why Peter is so angry)! Friendly reminder that the X-Men of the past few decades have been through some horrible shit that has in turn made them into horrible people, but the Ultimates version of them were just a-holes!
@OmniGman In fairness to Jean, she didn't know Peter was where Logan would hate his mind being most. But she still never thought of the ramifications of chucking someone's soul in a random direction. It could have been so much worse if it had been Sabertooth. Or she might not have been able to fix it. Logan's mind list to the ether while his body keeps trying to heal the autonomous functions ceasing to be autonomous.
Lets be clear here, spiderman is one of the nicest guys out there, he's chill with just about everyone. It says more about you if your trashing him, who cares if he's not a "mutant" hes a hero and positive person, thats more important. Plus if Logan trusts him, that says a lot to his character and should be enough.
Spider-Man while being there teacher broke a danger room restraint with one arm that hand him trapped, that was designed to hold Colossus. All the students freaked out once they saw this and start respecting Spider-Man.
@@onemisterfranko I wouldn't go as far as to say he's outclassed by a lot of heroes, he just holds back his strength by a lot when fighting others so as not to kill them.
@@ashtiller7471 He *is* outclassed by a lot of heroes, but when your competition are Hulk, Thor, Professor X, Doctor Strange and many other characters who wouldn't be out of place on a "Top 10 Strongest Fictional characters" list, that says about as little as a statement possibly could.
@@HunterStiles651 Fun fact: Back in the old days (when Marvel barely had a hundred heroes to their name), Marvel's editorial staff once ranked a bunchif their heroes and stated Spider-Man was one of the strongest heroes on Earth, outclassed only by the likes of Thor, the Hulk, and the Sub-Mariner!
I bet Spider-Man was being his goofy self but the lesson of “With great power, comes with great responsibility” really is a good lesson for Mutants. Its perfect considering a lot of kids get their powers and are reckless and scared
One of the best moments is when Spiderman calls them out on it while he is being hunted by SENTINELS as in the things that hunt mutants. Spiderman is hunted by Literal Mutant killing Robots and the Xmen still had the audacity to reject him.
@@WetzforLife uh cause 1 in the first encounter with them he denied being a mutant and wanting to work with them, yeah shocking but in the old days spidey was a dik to alot of people, he's nicer now sure but he was always supposed to be a quipping snapy jerk who'd helped the lil guys.
I loved this comic run. The students initially had the same hostility towards Spider-Man as the X-Men, but Peter won them over by showing them there is more to them than what society thinks of them and there is even more to them than what they think of themselves. By the end the students like Spider-Man even more than the X-Men.
Kind of surprised they apparently didn't have one already. Actually, come to think of it, given how much power and influence people can have these days with social media and availability of heavy or otherwise dangerous machinery, it's kind of surprising how little real life institutions teach ethics.
saw a comment that said something that really made the whole thing funny for me. Mutant wants to be accepted by humanity, but looks down on Mutates, so Mutates are to mutants as what mutants are to humans. It's hilariously contradicting in wishing to be accepted by humanity while repeating the actions of the said humanity against another race that are similar to mutants and yet different from mutants.
Of all the non-mutants to get pissed at for HELPING them, some of the X-Men choosing to get angry at Spiderman is aggravating and ironic. It would be one thing if Storm found him annoying - because he can be, but to not trust him because he is a Mutate is just insulting. You would think Storm would sympathize with how Peter's name gets dragged through the mud by the media and how he has to always be mindful of his behaviour to avoid becoming the target of the public's hatred - something Mutants have endured for decades. Then there is the fact that Logan trusts him, which on its own should be enough to vouch for Peter, on top of all the times Peter has helped the X-Men, but Storm must have decided to be a hypocrite
@@rpgincorporated8302 you mean tchala the guy that's known for being so mistrusting of everyone trust Spiderman personal issues aside storm really is a dumbass
@@shen5533 She had some reasonable criticisms. Eg: Marked poorly for communication because he "quips instead of listening" and his mask muffles his voice in combat. That's believable.
Spider-Man is basically a mutant. Not only that, he gets just as much s*** from society as regular mutants do, despite being the hero Spider-Man's probably the most relatable hero outside of the X-Men for mutants, he can relate to the mutants and the mutants can relate to him
@@sun_vfx yeah I think Hulk counts but I think in his case he's persecuted in feed because is about 50% his fault because he does kind of go on rampages a lot where Spider-Man is just completely undeserved
@@solarwind arguably Thanos would actually relate most for mutants even more than any mutate, both pre and now post AXE. Given that he is a mutant Eternal with dominate Deviant traits he was hated and victimised by his fellow Eternals for his mutation and now that mutants are canonically a genetic offshoot of the Deviant race this brings them even closer to Thanos than ever before.
In defense of Storm: #1 Bad writing not her fault. #2 She could be wary/ on guard someone who is not a mutant would not understand them -#2 it's Spider-man. If you can't trust Spider-man, you can't trust anyone.
During this COmic book run Scott's a terrorist, Logan who built the school and is against scott's actions just died. Storm was also in a romantic relationship with logan when he died. Storm interaction with spiderman who she doesn't know is Peter are few and far at this point and she already has issue with having a masked anyone in the school. while still a bit much The comic play it off as Storm being frustrated and grieving more then actual hate for spider-man.
@@neotagatg3238And here I thought it was because Peter punched her in the face once in self defense and she’s still salty about it. Seriously though, Storm still hates Spider-Man. She almost zapped Miles on sight until she realized he was not Peter. Storm is still a Jameson level hater.
Given the Mohawk, I'm assuming this is from the run where logan died, and this storms probably just more pissed that she wasn't chosen for the task, especially since they basically just started dating before he died.
@@lucasgabriel4155 I mean, when he is on his A-game, Spidey really is amazing! Problem is a lot of writers like to make him a "lovable" loser, and can't quite the right ratio of loser-to-badass moments so Peter comes off as more a "pitiable" loser!
The X-Men - We want peaceful co-existence with humanity! Also the X-Men - Also, our species is called 'homo SUPERIOR', and we are the next inevitable step beyond mankind in evolution!! (re - we believe we're your replacements, and we already think of ourselves as better than you) Seriously, someone needs to fire the X-Men's PR guy! That's basically shots fired right there! Like, do any non-mutant scientists actually call them that?
So this is during schism when Scott a terrorist and Logan creates a new school Named after Jean. Over the course of this Storm and Logan start a romance and after he dies is when spiderman and the x-men happen. Storm a bit too angry but she's going through alot and spiderman quips are not something she's used too. I do think Storm as the new headmistress of the school and her taking her frustration out on spidey is weird but it's played more that she's upset Logan left all this to her without asking what she wanted, and suddenly she has an outsider in a mask in there school. Then actual dislike or hate for spider-man.
I seriously hated how Storm and the rest of the X-Men treated Spider-Man in this series. Like he's one of the nicest people put there to where he's one of the very people in the world that Logan openly trusts. Not to mention Storm is like an incredibly kind person and the X-Men are more or less very welcoming people. Yeah the discrimination against mutants and all the hell they've been through especially with Wolverine's death at that point in time really messed them up but that's no excuse to treat the guy who unless I'm mistaken has a very close relationship with the X-Men like crap.
This makes me want a fanfic where spiderman is a teacher to his mutant class and the other x-men get bashed or salted on Spiderman deserves respect and yet he can't even get that from the x-men
No he didn’t, Spider-Man didn’t join the X-Men he joined the staff at the Jean Grey school. If you class being a member of staff as being a member of the X-Men then Toad was also an X-Man because he was the janitor
That's not the same. Being a janitor and a teacher are two different things. Plus Peter has teamed up with the Xmen more than any other hero. He's practically an X man like he's a practically a member of the Fantastic Four
@@jamielthashepherd6870 well they were both members of staff, granted they had different jobs but there were members of the X-Men who weren’t teachers at the time. As for the FF there’s a difference there in that Peter has been an official member of the Fantastic Four more than once and is officially a part of the reserve members where as he’s never been an official X-Man he’s just teamed up with them as opposed to say Carol Danvers who was an official honorary X-Man even without her powers
17:47 you are actually right. When they had Darth Vader’s reveal, Mark Hamill (Luke’s actor) suggested that one of the stormtroopers be ‘whispering’ to another “that’s Darth Vader, the emperor’s enforcer.” But George Lucas was like “no-no. He’s a big guy in black on a white background with soldiers around him. They’ll get it, they’ll get it.” Back when movies treated viewers with respect.
The X-Men would absolutely be evil if they were in a position to persecute humans. Like these guys are downright ass holes at the worst of times and completely negligent at best.
Nah, so the ones wanting to be accepted treated Spidey like trash when he came to help them learn about being responsible with their powers? pretty realistic honestly, but come on!
you know something that actually pisses me off, the main Heroes that are all about equality and mutant rights are the same people that basically say screw off to the people that are cool with them or actually want to help out of the goodness of their heart. X-Men do better
"...but faces rejection and discrimination, especially from Storm." Ah yes, Storm's iconic racism and bigotry, traits that were signatures of the character ever since the '70s!
SPIDER-MAN is believed to have be born with the X gene. It was his parents that removed it from him. This is why the radiative Spider bit didn't kill him. The poison and Spider DNA filled in the missing gene location.
Wasn't there a time before this series where Storm actually liked Spider-man? I remember reading this and getting really confused and angry that Storm apparently hated his guts for no reason all of a sudden.
Wow storm abit too hypocritical dont you think? He may not be a mutant but that doesn't mean he can't teach these kids how to use their powers responsibly
Fun fact: Spidey is one of only 3 characters to have been a part of marvels 3 headline teams- the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and X-Men, with the other 2 being wolverine and storm
Isn't this the arc where one of the students explains that Spider-Man could have set up a shell company to make money off of his merch without revealing his identity? And they tell him that he's ripping off Giant Man by saying "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility"?
They're really trashing Peter left and right. I remember an issue where the X-men meet Miles, and they comment that he's so much easier to deal with than the 'other' Spider-man. Peter just can't catch a break no matter what he does.
@@Negi1001 People need to realize the vast majority of the X-Men are kind of a-holes by now! Even the ones who were originally dogged nice guys/girls have become a-holes over time.
Nah I would’ve Put On A Black Suit for that disrespect, How you mad that the Worlds being racist to mutants but the moment The Peter Parker The Literal Saint of Marvel walks thru your doors you treat him like that smh
I assume tltge treatment from Storm is specifically cuz he's not a mutant at a school for Mutants that she's in charge of, and not cuz she just dislikes him? She of all people should understand that anything less would just be petty disliking
My surprise is how exactly do these Mutants, who are hated worldwide by a majority of humanity itself, are somehow insanely rich. Where exactly do they get their money, who is willing to work for them? This is the same species that repeatedly think building racist killer robots that always go rogue is a good and valid idea?
I'd like to say it's because they've had so much crap dumped on them while the rest of Marvel's heroes are somehow obligated by editorial fiat to ignore their plight (because Captain America not fighting racism is just stupid), but then I remember Xavier canonically had feelings for Jean when she was just a teenager (he chose not to act on them of course, and was even ashamed of those feelings, but still creepy). So, yeah, the X-Men have kinda always been hinky. Actually, Jean has had a lot of old guys creeping on her. Logan, Xavier, technically Sinister. Even Madelyne got griefed by Mastermind (he took the form of Scott to kiss her and even threatened to make her love him in his real form after he was done killing the other X-Men).
The mohawk was always awful! Even when my little sister was a kid and Storm was her favorite, she still thought the mohawk was ugly and only bought a toy of her that had the mohawk to show her love for Storm!!
From what i can tell from these pages storms problem seems to be more about not knowing who the fuck spiderman is behind the mask than him not being a mutant. Which is honestly a pretty reasonable worry if we're being fair considering hes being put in a position of authority over children. Although to be fair to the comments i have not read this comic so storm might really just be a massive asshole in this comic for no reason.
Spider-Man could set up an interview with any news organization ,and be backed by the Avengers and fantastic four . All he has to say is the mutants need to be treated equally and over night mutant discrimination will drop! But no bully the flag ship of marvel.
I swear some writers just don't deserve the work. So out of character to bash Spidey. Do the have a fetish for making some of our fave heroes hypocrites?
I remember in a different comic, where the danger room becomes sentient and walks out of the X-Men school. Logan then gets in charge of direct combat training of all the kids because none of the other teachers didn't scare the children enough
A lot. House of M happened not too long ago, so the mutant number is still very small. Even more recently, was the Avengers vs X-Men event, where Scott kills professor X. So, Cyclops, (who for all intends and purpose can be considered the Captain America for mutants) is now on the run and a terrorist for having killed the most vocal mutant that wanted coexistence. Also, this school was Logan's responsibility, but he wasn't available so Storm got stuck with it. Finally, other heroes really hate Spidey's quipping. They think he is not taking things seriously. This is after Spiderman delete everyone memory of his identity, so she probably doesn't know who is behind the mask. I also think Spiderman intensionally annoys other stressed heroes. Like, he is trying for them to take the stress on him, instead of other people.😊
Wow storm being racist didn't see that one coming her of all people should know not to fucking do that judging him because he's a non-union with powers
Imagine wanting to be treated as equal by society but you diss on literally one of the nicest guys in your verse
Yeah What the heck storm! In a school of learning to control powers, learning to use them responsibly sounds like a perfect fit! ... Just remembered Storm typically alters weather drastically without consideration for environmental consequences. And commonly refers to herself as a "Goddess" to her enemies... Something tells me she thinks herself above such things like "restraint" and "responsibility".
@@boostsix8367 Never read the comics but according to my dad, who has, Storm wasn't a typical mutant. She was actually a reincarnation of an African Goddess who could control the weather.
what makes it worse is nightcrawler removed spider-man's shirt, like buddy you 2 are friends wtf?
@@Kirdex90 If she is, then is she still a mutant?
@@boostsix8367 🤷
Storm: Our powers are a gift! We should cherish it and put it above everything else!
Spider-Man: Okay kid's, most of you can level a city or even tear the world apart in seconds... Let me explain to you all why that is a bad idea and why your power comes with a great responsibility to those around you.
Storm: ... Listen here you little-
WIth Storm's backstory of her being extremely irresponsible with her powers within her first few pages, she should've been on SPider-man's side from the start. Whoever wrote the story needed to do their homework better.
@@tatalsabaI hate how Marvel has been turning a lot of female characters who were once very nice and decent in freaking jerks. Like Storm at this point should have been humbled after how irresponsible she was in her youth.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919and that they just want to make sure Spider Man never has a good time
That phrase from Storm always makes me laugh, considering she said that in front of Rogue. You know the poor girl thqt probably has trauma after accidentally killing his boyfriend with her powers that she can not stop. That make her have to avoid physical contact 90% of thr time with everyone.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919 Yeah, both the editors and writers need to understand the characters and their history, else their work will feel off and the readers will be let down, just take a look at Zeb Wells run on Amazing Spider-man, it's just atrocious what he's done with Mary Jane, and every other character.
Doesn't spidey say in on of his comics " you know why people dont like you guy? Not because you're mutants. But because you're all assholes"😂😂
Yeah it's during one where Jean swaps Peter and Logans minds to teach Logan a lesson, not even caring about what it would do to Peter or how it would affect him.
Wasn’t that from the OG Ultimate Universe?
@@azureheart2846bingo
An issue of Ultimate Spider-Man. It was the conclusion of a two-parter where Logan and Peter had somehow swapped bodies (including a frankly vile scene of Logan trying to get MJ to sleep with him despite both her and Peter being teenagers).
In the end the X-Men show up on Peter's front lawn with their freaking jet.
Jean admits she did this as a prank on Logan (I think it was because he kept perving on her) because he hates Peter (not caring how it potentially wrecked havoc on Peter's life), and the X-Men told Peter not to worry about them potentially exposing his identity because Jean was telepathically making all of his neighbors ignore/forget the X-Men showing up on his front lawn.
Peter then tells them exactly what awful people they are (except poor Colossus who just got out of the jet and has no idea what's happening or why Peter is so angry)!
Friendly reminder that the X-Men of the past few decades have been through some horrible shit that has in turn made them into horrible people, but the Ultimates version of them were just a-holes!
@OmniGman In fairness to Jean, she didn't know Peter was where Logan would hate his mind being most. But she still never thought of the ramifications of chucking someone's soul in a random direction. It could have been so much worse if it had been Sabertooth. Or she might not have been able to fix it. Logan's mind list to the ether while his body keeps trying to heal the autonomous functions ceasing to be autonomous.
Gets better when you realise his class was the only one that completely survived the year and yet was still marked poorly for that.
Did the kids die or just bail on the school? Or was it not specified?
@@ricardoj376A ton of students die all of the time.
Coming from the guy who went toe-to-toe with 6 supervillains, you tell me
Survived?! What is this? Hogwarts?!
@ It's much worse.
Lets be clear here, spiderman is one of the nicest guys out there, he's chill with just about everyone. It says more about you if your trashing him, who cares if he's not a "mutant" hes a hero and positive person, thats more important. Plus if Logan trusts him, that says a lot to his character and should be enough.
Especially since Logan hardly trusts anyone in all actuality.
@inky5574 I think in one comic during his birthday, Logan admits Spiderman is someone he counts as a genuine fraind.
Technically he's a mutant and though he wasn't born that way it was just as much not his fault as other mutants who had it kick in during puberty
@tombprospectorvulcan6440 more or less, which is why her attitude is annoying.
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Spider-Man while being there teacher broke a danger room restraint with one arm that hand him trapped, that was designed to hold Colossus. All the students freaked out once they saw this and start respecting Spider-Man.
He's way nicer and far more gentle than people realize. Sure, he's outclassed by plenty of heroes, but he consistently punches above his weight. 😀
@@onemisterfranko funny thing he was worried about having to pay for the machine after he broke it lol
@@onemisterfranko I wouldn't go as far as to say he's outclassed by a lot of heroes, he just holds back his strength by a lot when fighting others so as not to kill them.
@@ashtiller7471 He *is* outclassed by a lot of heroes, but when your competition are Hulk, Thor, Professor X, Doctor Strange and many other characters who wouldn't be out of place on a "Top 10 Strongest Fictional characters" list, that says about as little as a statement possibly could.
@@HunterStiles651
Fun fact:
Back in the old days (when Marvel barely had a hundred heroes to their name), Marvel's editorial staff once ranked a bunchif their heroes and stated Spider-Man was one of the strongest heroes on Earth, outclassed only by the likes of Thor, the Hulk, and the Sub-Mariner!
I bet Spider-Man was being his goofy self but the lesson of “With great power, comes with great responsibility” really is a good lesson for Mutants. Its perfect considering a lot of kids get their powers and are reckless and scared
No wonder classic Spiderman gave them so much cr@p. The X-Men aren't willing to accept anyone but their own kind to teach mutants.
Didn't classic spidey also dated jubilee?
@@DonPetexXWhen was that?
@@jorienwachukwu466 it was in the old comic books like late 90's I wana say
One of the best moments is when Spiderman calls them out on it while he is being hunted by SENTINELS as in the things that hunt mutants. Spiderman is hunted by Literal Mutant killing Robots and the Xmen still had the audacity to reject him.
@@WetzforLife uh cause 1 in the first encounter with them he denied being a mutant and wanting to work with them, yeah shocking but in the old days spidey was a dik to alot of people, he's nicer now sure but he was always supposed to be a quipping snapy jerk who'd helped the lil guys.
I loved this comic run. The students initially had the same hostility towards Spider-Man as the X-Men, but Peter won them over by showing them there is more to them than what society thinks of them and there is even more to them than what they think of themselves. By the end the students like Spider-Man even more than the X-Men.
What run was this?
Power Ethics is the perfect class for Spider-Man to teach
Kind of surprised they apparently didn't have one already. Actually, come to think of it, given how much power and influence people can have these days with social media and availability of heavy or otherwise dangerous machinery, it's kind of surprising how little real life institutions teach ethics.
saw a comment that said something that really made the whole thing funny for me.
Mutant wants to be accepted by humanity, but looks down on Mutates, so Mutates are to mutants as what mutants are to humans.
It's hilariously contradicting in wishing to be accepted by humanity while repeating the actions of the said humanity against another race that are similar to mutants and yet different from mutants.
Which is funny considering some mutates are more powerful then almost all mutants
Also funny as this is how it's sometimes like in some marginalized groups 😂
Which is funny because most Mutates are more well loved and accepted than Mutants.
@@cristalmewtwo4160 and not to mench why they have more mutants
@@azureheart2846that's probably why
Of all the non-mutants to get pissed at for HELPING them, some of the X-Men choosing to get angry at Spiderman is aggravating and ironic. It would be one thing if Storm found him annoying - because he can be, but to not trust him because he is a Mutate is just insulting.
You would think Storm would sympathize with how Peter's name gets dragged through the mud by the media and how he has to always be mindful of his behaviour to avoid becoming the target of the public's hatred - something Mutants have endured for decades.
Then there is the fact that Logan trusts him, which on its own should be enough to vouch for Peter, on top of all the times Peter has helped the X-Men, but Storm must have decided to be a hypocrite
Iirc, he did make a bad first impression.
"I know your husband. He thinks highly of me!"
"Ex-husband."
@@rpgincorporated8302 you mean tchala the guy that's known for being so mistrusting of everyone trust Spiderman personal issues aside storm really is a dumbass
Just because of that? Goddamn she's petty. @@rpgincorporated8302
Just remember, these comics spawned Sauron's ambition to turn people into dinosaurs!
@@shen5533 She had some reasonable criticisms. Eg: Marked poorly for communication because he "quips instead of listening" and his mask muffles his voice in combat. That's believable.
Spider-Man is basically a mutant. Not only that, he gets just as much s*** from society as regular mutants do, despite being the hero Spider-Man's probably the most relatable hero outside of the X-Men for mutants, he can relate to the mutants and the mutants can relate to him
spiderman is a mutate, not mutant its different (the mutants dont allow mutates except juggernaut ig lmao)
@@sun_vfx My point was that Spider-Man was pretty much the most relatable to the mutants out of any non-ex-Man superhero
@@solarwind theres hulk too
@@sun_vfx yeah I think Hulk counts but I think in his case he's persecuted in feed because is about 50% his fault because he does kind of go on rampages a lot where Spider-Man is just completely undeserved
@@solarwind arguably Thanos would actually relate most for mutants even more than any mutate, both pre and now post AXE. Given that he is a mutant Eternal with dominate Deviant traits he was hated and victimised by his fellow Eternals for his mutation and now that mutants are canonically a genetic offshoot of the Deviant race this brings them even closer to Thanos than ever before.
In defense of Storm:
#1 Bad writing not her fault.
#2 She could be wary/ on guard someone who is not a mutant would not understand them
-#2 it's Spider-man. If you can't trust Spider-man, you can't trust anyone.
Storm didn't read or heard what JJJ be saying DAILY about spider-man.
"Why does storm hate spiderman?"
"i dunno maybe she is racist"
And the X-Men wondered why humans don’t treat them with respect because they don’t treat people who get their powers scientifically with respect
I wish the comic touch on this more but these days they don't.
Shit, I'd love to have Spidey as my teacher. The hell was up Storm's ass, though? Prejudist?
During this COmic book run Scott's a terrorist, Logan who built the school and is against scott's actions just died. Storm was also in a romantic relationship with logan when he died. Storm interaction with spiderman who she doesn't know is Peter are few and far at this point and she already has issue with having a masked anyone in the school. while still a bit much The comic play it off as Storm being frustrated and grieving more then actual hate for spider-man.
@@neotagatg3238 The comic chose the right direction, cuz that's exactly what I concluded.
@@neotagatg3238There's also the fact that not too long ago, the Superior Spider-Man stuff happened. So everyone was still a little bitter at him
She had the Idiot Ball for that storyline. Every character gets it eventually if they're around long enough.
@@neotagatg3238And here I thought it was because Peter punched her in the face once in self defense and she’s still salty about it. Seriously though, Storm still hates Spider-Man. She almost zapped Miles on sight until she realized he was not Peter. Storm is still a Jameson level hater.
Given the Mohawk, I'm assuming this is from the run where logan died, and this storms probably just more pissed that she wasn't chosen for the task, especially since they basically just started dating before he died.
Storm ruin a weatherman career after a break up. So im not suprise she being petty to Spider-man.😅
Every hero team when they need a substitute hero: yeah let's call Spiderman
@@lucasgabriel4155
I mean, when he is on his A-game, Spidey really is amazing!
Problem is a lot of writers like to make him a "lovable" loser, and can't quite the right ratio of loser-to-badass moments so Peter comes off as more a "pitiable" loser!
And they want to be accepted by humans 😂
The X-Men - We want peaceful co-existence with humanity!
Also the X-Men - Also, our species is called 'homo SUPERIOR', and we are the next inevitable step beyond mankind in evolution!! (re - we believe we're your replacements, and we already think of ourselves as better than you)
Seriously, someone needs to fire the X-Men's PR guy! That's basically shots fired right there! Like, do any non-mutant scientists actually call them that?
Wow didn't know Storm was a hater
she left off after bp meat.
Spidey punched her in the face once. She never forgot that
@@huntertezz I don't think that was the reason for her hate, in fact he has to punch her to wake her up from a trance
Leave it to Storm to try and rain on others parades.
I hope he’s getting paid
Peter is the coolest teacher Period when he doesn’t have to lie about his identity, I’d love to have him as my science teacher
That seems so out of character for Storm.
So this is during schism when Scott a terrorist and Logan creates a new school Named after Jean. Over the course of this Storm and Logan start a romance and after he dies is when spiderman and the x-men happen. Storm a bit too angry but she's going through alot and spiderman quips are not something she's used too. I do think Storm as the new headmistress of the school and her taking her frustration out on spidey is weird but it's played more that she's upset Logan left all this to her without asking what she wanted, and suddenly she has an outsider in a mask in there school. Then actual dislike or hate for spider-man.
@neotagatg3238 well, you explained that well.
I did not think I would’ve reading about superhuman racism today.
I seriously hated how Storm and the rest of the X-Men treated Spider-Man in this series. Like he's one of the nicest people put there to where he's one of the very people in the world that Logan openly trusts. Not to mention Storm is like an incredibly kind person and the X-Men are more or less very welcoming people. Yeah the discrimination against mutants and all the hell they've been through especially with Wolverine's death at that point in time really messed them up but that's no excuse to treat the guy who unless I'm mistaken has a very close relationship with the X-Men like crap.
This makes me want a fanfic where spiderman is a teacher to his mutant class and the other x-men get bashed or salted on
Spiderman deserves respect and yet he can't even get that from the x-men
Spider-Man for the win!
The only school where I’d Never miss a day of class.😁
Out all the X-men why was Storm giving him grief she usually electing to everyone
She found him annoying, and Storm has a serious petty streak
@@darrylferguson3622 hmm spidey was probably written as more of a jokester in this one. Either that or Storm has no funny side in these comics
I think he punched her in the face.
Also she has never seen his good side. Only the more annoying side that quips.
WTF Storm not cool, you din't fight discrimmination with more discrimmination, no wonder her husband had contigency plans against her...
No he didn’t, Spider-Man didn’t join the X-Men he joined the staff at the Jean Grey school. If you class being a member of staff as being a member of the X-Men then Toad was also an X-Man because he was the janitor
That's not the same. Being a janitor and a teacher are two different things. Plus Peter has teamed up with the Xmen more than any other hero. He's practically an X man like he's a practically a member of the Fantastic Four
@@jamielthashepherd6870 well they were both members of staff, granted they had different jobs but there were members of the X-Men who weren’t teachers at the time. As for the FF there’s a difference there in that Peter has been an official member of the Fantastic Four more than once and is officially a part of the reserve members where as he’s never been an official X-Man he’s just teamed up with them as opposed to say Carol Danvers who was an official honorary X-Man even without her powers
Something always happens when Peter goes on these school trips 😂
Honestly Peter becoming a teacher for mutant kids and having a superhero girlfriend would be perfect for him.
Who the traitor thou?
ernst was the traitor
Ernst was (old looking girl). She was working with Mr. Sinister in exchange for getting her friend a new body (the brain in a floating jar).
17:47 you are actually right. When they had Darth Vader’s reveal, Mark Hamill (Luke’s actor) suggested that one of the stormtroopers be ‘whispering’ to another “that’s Darth Vader, the emperor’s enforcer.” But George Lucas was like “no-no. He’s a big guy in black on a white background with soldiers around him. They’ll get it, they’ll get it.”
Back when movies treated viewers with respect.
Students: please let this be a normal field trip
Spider-Man : with the spidey no way
Ill go to school everyday if spider man was my teacher.
The X-Men would absolutely be evil if they were in a position to persecute humans. Like these guys are downright ass holes at the worst of times and completely negligent at best.
Kisses logan, Im dead 😭
Spidey needs a break! But at least he makes a good teacher.
Nah, so the ones wanting to be accepted treated Spidey like trash when he came to help them learn about being responsible with their powers? pretty realistic honestly, but come on!
Storm is such a baddie 😊
you know something that actually pisses me off, the main Heroes that are all about equality and mutant rights are the same people that basically say screw off to the people that are cool with them or actually want to help out of the goodness of their heart. X-Men do better
It gets worst years later with Krakoa when the x men turn into separatests
@@colingibson1998 ooh I'm aware I've been keeping track
@@littlejadenyuki3759 but what's worst is they'll kick Franklin richards off the island because he isn't a mutant but will let fucking Wilson fisk on
@@colingibson1998 They also let Sinster in, a guy who work with the literal Badguy from WW2 and ran his own camps.
No wonder DeadPool 'who is mutate' went and made a no mutant country
"...but faces rejection and discrimination, especially from Storm."
Ah yes, Storm's iconic racism and bigotry, traits that were signatures of the character ever since the '70s!
"Your gatekeeping mutations?'
SPIDER-MAN is believed to have be born with the X gene. It was his parents that removed it from him.
This is why the radiative Spider bit didn't kill him.
The poison and Spider DNA filled in the missing gene location.
Wasn't there a time before this series where Storm actually liked Spider-man? I remember reading this and getting really confused and angry that Storm apparently hated his guts for no reason all of a sudden.
Bad writing
I like hardass principal storm lol
Wow storm abit too hypocritical dont you think? He may not be a mutant but that doesn't mean he can't teach these kids how to use their powers responsibly
It's weird that Storm would discriminate against him.
Nah her dislike of Spidey is not because of discrimination.
She just doesn't like Spidey
Man marvel writers just love to shit on spiderman any way they can
Fun fact: Spidey is one of only 3 characters to have been a part of marvels 3 headline teams- the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and X-Men, with the other 2 being wolverine and storm
Honestly that’s very hard to believe that storm is giving him the most discrimination
that sounds AWESOME!!!
30:52 “there’s a Jesus joke in here somewhere”
My submission, “when you ask Jesus if he can help pour you some more water”
Isn't this the arc where one of the students explains that Spider-Man could have set up a shell company to make money off of his merch without revealing his identity? And they tell him that he's ripping off Giant Man by saying "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility"?
I really hope this is an alternate universe story. 616 storm would never act like that!
They're really trashing Peter left and right. I remember an issue where the X-men meet Miles, and they comment that he's so much easier to deal with than the 'other' Spider-man. Peter just can't catch a break no matter what he does.
Seems odd that Storm would hate on Storm.
I don't care what you call the place. It's called exclamation pointe and nothing is changing my mind.
Why not just have Spider-Man teach science like a normal subject?
Especially Storm?!?
But did he ever find who Logan was worried about?
I love Storm but she is a "Duck"
It’s always funny when people realize Storm is kind of an asshole. Makes me wonder how many people actually read her backstory.
@@Negi1001 People need to realize the vast majority of the X-Men are kind of a-holes by now! Even the ones who were originally dogged nice guys/girls have become a-holes over time.
It’s a private school. I wonder if teaching there would be a better or worse salary than what Peter is already making as a photographer for the bugle
i keep forgetting that martha johansson is not an old lady, she just looks like one
Wait, why does storm hate Spider-Man?
Out of character for her!
Man I'd love to read that chapter, my two favorite aspects of Marvel together? Sign me up! Which comics are these?
Nah I would’ve Put On A Black Suit for that disrespect, How you mad that the Worlds being racist to mutants but the moment The Peter Parker The Literal Saint of Marvel walks thru your doors you treat him like that smh
I assume tltge treatment from Storm is specifically cuz he's not a mutant at a school for Mutants that she's in charge of, and not cuz she just dislikes him? She of all people should understand that anything less would just be petty disliking
The more you read about mutants (including the X-Men) the more you get why the entire Marvel universe hates them. They are generally deviant pricks.
My surprise is how exactly do these Mutants, who are hated worldwide by a majority of humanity itself, are somehow insanely rich.
Where exactly do they get their money, who is willing to work for them? This is the same species that repeatedly think building racist killer robots that always go rogue is a good and valid idea?
Magneto alone gives a big-ass reason. which is ironic given his origins.
I'd like to say it's because they've had so much crap dumped on them while the rest of Marvel's heroes are somehow obligated by editorial fiat to ignore their plight (because Captain America not fighting racism is just stupid), but then I remember Xavier canonically had feelings for Jean when she was just a teenager (he chose not to act on them of course, and was even ashamed of those feelings, but still creepy). So, yeah, the X-Men have kinda always been hinky.
Actually, Jean has had a lot of old guys creeping on her. Logan, Xavier, technically Sinister. Even Madelyne got griefed by Mastermind (he took the form of Scott to kiss her and even threatened to make her love him in his real form after he was done killing the other X-Men).
You know... I'm starting to think Sentinels aren't so bad afterall.
Storm still hating on bro, let ts go woman damn.
Wait is spider man technically a mutant or a meta
so the writer doesnt actually know storm's character, right
does storm hate peter because of his puns?
That storm design is god awful
The mohawk was always awful! Even when my little sister was a kid and Storm was her favorite, she still thought the mohawk was ugly and only bought a toy of her that had the mohawk to show her love for Storm!!
From what i can tell from these pages storms problem seems to be more about not knowing who the fuck spiderman is behind the mask than him not being a mutant. Which is honestly a pretty reasonable worry if we're being fair considering hes being put in a position of authority over children.
Although to be fair to the comments i have not read this comic so storm might really just be a massive asshole in this comic for no reason.
Spider-Man could set up an interview with any news organization ,and be backed by the Avengers and fantastic four . All he has to say is the mutants need to be treated equally and over night mutant discrimination will drop!
But no bully the flag ship of marvel.
What’s the comic where spiderman blows up about the X-men are all hypocrites and are dicks and then leaves after doing nothing but help them?
It was Ultimate Spiderman when his mind was switch with Wolverine.
i vaguely remember trying to read this series but giving up becausse it was too toooo silly
And thats why all spidermen canonically hate the xmen. Hypocrites and bad freinds.
Well of course hes the coolest teacher! He's the only one who isnt a dirty mutie
I swear some writers just don't deserve the work. So out of character to bash Spidey. Do the have a fetish for making some of our fave heroes hypocrites?
What comic?
What did storm have against spider-man?
What’s the name of the comic book?
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who realized how poorly they wrote storm in this. Like she is hella out of character in this moment.
What did Logan actually teach
The only thing I remember had something to do with fighting ninjas. My guess, combat situations? Like what to do when fighting an army maybe?
I remember in a different comic, where the danger room becomes sentient and walks out of the X-Men school. Logan then gets in charge of direct combat training of all the kids because none of the other teachers didn't scare the children enough
American History
What comic is this?
"Spiderman and the X-men" it's a mini series.
Who was the traitor?
So who was traitor
ernest
Shoddy writing. X-Men and spidey go way back and have never had beef before. Storm has also never shown such elitism, even as a queen.
What the heck was Ororo’s problem?
A lot.
House of M happened not too long ago, so the mutant number is still very small.
Even more recently, was the Avengers vs X-Men event, where Scott kills professor X. So, Cyclops, (who for all intends and purpose can be considered the Captain America for mutants) is now on the run and a terrorist for having killed the most vocal mutant that wanted coexistence.
Also, this school was Logan's responsibility, but he wasn't available so Storm got stuck with it.
Finally, other heroes really hate Spidey's quipping. They think he is not taking things seriously. This is after Spiderman delete everyone memory of his identity, so she probably doesn't know who is behind the mask.
I also think Spiderman intensionally annoys other stressed heroes. Like, he is trying for them to take the stress on him, instead of other people.😊
Wow storm being racist didn't see that one coming her of all people should know not to fucking do that judging him because he's a non-union with powers