It gets worse! He was even setting up video equipment and talking! I mean its crazy. Everyone knows you don't talk and shoot video when you are trying to ninja, right? smh He shared some good info.
Great video Bill. The canteen trick absolutely works! I've used it at Winter Forge and even did a short video featuring it. Other guys have mentioned keeping the canteens inside their sleeping bag at night as well.
Our Canteen holders were insulated, I never had water freeze even in Alaska at Northern Warfare School (yes I’m Cold War old). If you get the chance to sleep you don’t take off your LBE and your body heat keeps it from freezing. A two qrt makes a great pillow. When you’re moving they are being agitated so they don’t freeze, remember your canteen is either full or empty, sloshing water violates noise discipline SOP.
I think in part to the thickness of American made cold war canteens you can hardly squeeze them in at all , So the type of container is important. The Chinese knock off canteens are thinner and garbage 🗑️. If it doesn't have a united states contract number from the at least 1980s don't buy it.
The reverse waterbottle trick is still used in the British Army. This is why the 1958 Ptn waterbottle is still the issue canteen bottle, there is no "artic" or "cold weather" waterbottle. Another tip is to engineer a duct tape "handle" onto the bottom of your waterbottle, make the loop big enough to accommodate the wearing of gloves and/or mittens , this makes it a lot easier to pull your waterbottle out of the canteen pouch, when you are carrying it reversed. Happy Trails from across the pond.
@@johndalessandro6433 John , another good tip if you are "winterising" your waterbottle is to add a strong attachment loop to the base of the threads that the bottle top fastens up on. Use bankline or a similar strong cord to create a loop that you can use to attach paracord to, so you can dip your water bottle through a hole in the ice or can use to lower into a stream from the top of an embankment. Obviously give it a good test before going out into the wilds. Lots of folk attach paracord to the bottle top retainer but this can fail when hauling up,a full waterbottle. Happy Trails from across the pond.
Also-one trick we do (in addition to inverting the water bottles) is to heat some water to almost boiling and fill out Nalgene water bottles with it. Screw the tops on good and tight then into a clean hiking sock then they go right into our sleeping bags for the night. Not only does it help keep you warm all night you have a guaranteed thawed coffee water supply in the morning! That warm water bottle at yer feet or between yer thighs (femoral arteries) is a Godsend on those sub-zero nights out in the bush.
Just make sure your bottle doesn’t leak before. I remember using this trick in scouts and one of the boys didn’t tighten the lid all the way… he had a rough night
I made a sleeve out of one of those windshield reflective things( cause I'm too cheap to buy reflective from the big box store lol) . It works great so far. Good for keepin' water cold in warm weather and keepin' water from freezin' in winter. I haven't had it down to sub zero Temps yet,but,like you said keep it close to your body and it should be fine
Had Giarda twice in my life. First time it resolved itself in a week or so and was not too bad but had gas and the runs. 2nd time was way worse and I had to be evacuated out of the field to base hospital. STOP, LOOK, LISTEN, SMELL. Bill, your looking more like Rigg’s as time goes on buddy.
I love these canteens because I've had them freeze solid while nearly full more times than I can count. And I've had the same three for over a decade now. Never had a failure. That makes them worth their weight in winter.
I don't remember seeing this canteen trick. I always kept at least one in my coat or sleeping bag. In the civilian world before and after my time in the Marines I used the old metal ones with the canteen cup. I had what I believe was Giardia when I worked as a Wilderness Ranger for the Forest Service in the 70's. It was years later before I knew what the illness maybe was. I was designated Wilderness Area miles from a road in high alpine terrain and off the trail. Great weight loss program by the way. Any time you travel in the backcountry your constant companion is a guy named Murphy.
Ya, i went from a buff 175 to a emaciated 145, in a manner of three weeks do to intestinal parasites. If i hadnt been treated in the hospital, in Da Nang, im sure i would have died.
@@lastfreeamericanrobthanks for your time in Vietnam. I dropped out of ROTC to go enlisted for 2 years when the North Vietnamese were making their big push South. Saigon fell when I was in Marine boot camp. I spent a month as a guard in the Vietnamese/ Cambodian refugee camp at San Onefre Camp Pendlton. I got a good education about the world during those 2 years.
I use the Sawyer Squeeze System or Grayl Filter System and both are great. Out on a daily or sometimes weekend Patrol like hike pending where I go I just take my Grayl, it's simple, I put a bandanna in the opening of the cup and slowly dip it, when it's filled with water I insert the filter cup and slowly push down, pop the lid and I'm drinking water. On some weekends or extended trips I take my Sawyer Squeeze System utilizing it with several of the Cnoc Outdoor water container bags which allows me to make plenty of clean water. I sometimes still take the Grayl along with me just because I feel better having it with me. I have a way to back wash the filter on the Sawyer System not on the Grayl so I keep the Purifier Pills as a back up for if something ever happens to either filter. I only use the Sawyer in winter cause it's easier to keep filter from freezing.
I’ve used this for years. I didn’t learn it in the Army, but I learned it from my Army recruiter! He also introduced me to not only hiking, but hiking in the winter. No doubt, he learned it while in the Army. Great vid Top! Adapting well from the Pacific Northwest to the south eastern interior!!
Thanks, Bill I haven't seen nor heard of anyone doing that trixk in a long time. I was shown by my Dad in the 70s how to do that and it does work. He learned it from his cold weather training in Alaska while in the Army.
bushnut, I've had so call survival experts say something to the affect of " ...water freezes at 32° degrees, so ice won't get colder than 32°... [ 0°C ] ". Hard to comprehend . . . ☆
Def works brother good stuff I've done this when I was I. Germany in the 80s I just did a 5 mile ruck over the weekend in -5 degrees my ruck is my patrol pack 25 lbs
Good video. The only thing that I personally have experienced than giardia was leptospirosis. A gift from jungle warfare school in Panama back in 81. Take my word for it, you don't want either one.
I woke up to -29*C this morning, not including windchill. Even the dog didn't want to spend much time out. I've had Guardia, half a bottle of Jager Meister helped.
My favorite videos are when you're in your natural setting sharing wisdom. Funny. You really know you're getting old when the younger folks are making you wiser. Lol😂
So its important to remember that filtration and purification are two separate processes that need to be done for separate reasons I did enjoy the cold weather water bottle trick though, I will try that out and see how it goes, thanks for the info! Another little known trick is if you are in the snow, put your water bottles right into the snow and they wont freeze. Snow is 90% air and a good insulator
Yep. Also keeping it next to your body works. Something that I ran into a while back, we pee electrolyte and drink water. That doesn't always end well. Aqua tabs are chlorine, so no help there. A simple electrolyte is 3 parts sugar to 1 part salt. One teaspoon of that mix per pint. Carry it dry and mix in. It's by no means a complete electrolyte mix but it's pulled me through some long treks. Gatrorade used to make a powdered form that you could use the same way. You may be able to others as well. But if you can't, now you have a basic one that you can make at home. So, there I was, ranger coming toward me down the trail as I pull out my baggie of powered white stuff. . . 😀
I used to be a Wilderness Ranger for Forest Service in Eastern Oregon in the 70's after I got out of the Marine Corps where I spent 8 months TAD from Infantry to Camp Guard/MP. I most certainly would have asked how your day was going while watching for an ambush. My Wife and kids think I'm paranoid. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they ain't out to get ya.
I used to be a Wilderness Ranger for Forest Service in Eastern Oregon in the 70's after I got out of the Marine Corps where I spent 8 months TAD from Infantry to Camp Guard/MP. I most certainly would have asked how your day was going while watching for an ambush. My Wife and kids think I'm paranoid. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they ain't out to get ya.
I was shocked to finally see someone demo how to fill there water container properly. It always killed me seeing supposed experts, including Bear Grylls doing wrong and many other YT channels. I caught your (stop, look, listen) during your creep demo. I learned the up side canteen trick from my gramps, he was a WW1 and WW2 vet.
Top, thanks again for the great lesson about the canteen. The high for the day here was 19. Even with two years in Korea and another two in Wyoming during the Cold War, I never learned this.
In extreme cold, one can carry their canteen on the inside of their jacket in a pocket. Many good parkas as made with this in mind. In addition, carry canteens upside down on long movements as water can freeze when moving or sleeping with LBE on (tactical). Last, I prefer a steel one quart or aluminum civilian bc they can be put into ashes or a fire to heat up or boil water whereas the plastics cannot.
I always appreciate the knowledge you give us. This water trick was something I had never thought about. Through your and others videos and guidance in the community, I've learned a great wealth of information to add to my own. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Keeping your canteen upside down in snow also works at camp. As does slipping the canteen between jacket and blouse to keep it from freezing while you are wearing your belt and suspenders kit on patrol. Also during cold weather slipping your spent mags between Jacket and blouse while having your belt and suspenders kit on also works better than a dump pouch..
This may work well because of the shape of the canteen or even the material but I tried this once with a stainless tubular canteen and it cracked the seem as the ice expanded. Thanks for sharing the cool tricks.
As kids we always drank from the streams that 'looked' clean with no probs. I will tell you from experience that a stream with a dead deer in it looks just as clean.....😂😂
I heard about this trick many years ago (RUclips?) , use it all the time during winter hiking since then. I believe the acronym was SLLS - stop, look around, listen, smell.
Giardia gave me the water shits for three days, I lost 25 lbs(I am not a heavy man to begin with) and was so dehydrated by the experience that I stooped to drinking scalding hot water because I couldn't purify it fast enough.
Yes, have had giardia and lived to tell about it! Actually was not that bad, just felt like a gut punch for a few weeks till I figured out what the problem was. (was a bit of diarrhea involved as well) Good old Adirondack lakes and streams to blame and my steripen that apparently did not do the job as advertised.... Also-awesome pup you got there my friend! I am on #4 GSD myself.
Thank you for this video. That trick works. I do not remember where, when, or from whom I learned it; it was many years ago. All I can say is, it really does work. I like to fill my canteen with boiling water, wrap it in a scarf, and keep it in my sleeping bag at night as a "heater." (My canteen seals quite well and reliably.)
All good comments here. Im stoked to read them! I been away for yer channel for a bit, been busy but sure good ta see ya again! GOD BLESS Brother! I dig the beard also, i got one goin' myself. Alot more grey though lol
Great Video Bill, during winter survival in finland, with finish military in 2013, thay learned me this trick. Allso keeping a bottle up side down in your pack and by exream cold on your boddy under your shirt. Allso making fire with cartridge poeder and a iron wire. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Back when I was living in the wilderness all the water was so clean you never even thought of a water filter but now days when ever I go into the woods I always take a water filter and water perfection tablets, even if I only plan to be out there for a day. And a small fire kit I made that fits in my pocket.
canadian here , if your plastic canteen freezes overnight put a chemical hand warmer in the bottom of the pouch and the canteen in top of the hand warmer. that'll thaw it out.
In the rain 🌧️ when a deer 🦌 or other desired animal is moving, when it shakes the water off it's back it's almost white and gives them away and they do that more often in heavyer raining. When you're senses are bombarded by noise in the rain 🌧️ , sight becomes key 🗝️ , looking up scanning while checking for tracks.
I always watched my dog , they would smell someone first, hear someone first. Especially a growl , even in the rain and nosies going on they can see things and movement before i could detect anything, they stop and listen 👂 to and will be directly looking in the direction they heard or smell something, extra sensory detection ! Keeping clothes rotated from a bag with green pine needles helps with scent and not being detected with animals and humans and provides a fresh woody scent that is natural.
You have a well trained dog. I see very few trained to that level. First time I've seen that trick for keeping the water in a liquid state in the morning.
I had maleria in 2001 at Naminian police special field force training at a place called Ondangwa. 2 weeks down without hospital treatment. I felt like I was dying every day bro.
No, didn't know that trick. Used to have a metal canteen with the boiling water last thing at night, wrap some cloth around it and it went in the sleeping bag, you have your clean water for the AM and a warm sleeping bag. Your trick would be much better in a cold camp situation, good stuff Bill!!!
Good video- hydration is important in cold weather. I remember getting issued the old arctic canteens when I was up in Alaska years ago and they and other old school issue items were part of inspections during PLDC (Primary Leadership Development Course) which was 30 days course and you marched everywhere, lots of D&C back when the Army was not woke. The arctic canteens worked well during guard duty when it was very cold. Do troops do guard duty anymore?
I had an uncle who fought in Korea during the winter. He said they tied both canteens together hung them across their shoulders and tucked them under their armpits to keep them from freezing. You have to put them under your cold weather coat close to your body but not on the skin for it to work.
Good video! I don't believe it makes a difference which direction the opening of your canteen points as the air escaping creates a vacuum that sucks in water! I used to place a folded piece of coffee filter over the opening to keep out debris, but you could use the end of your shemagh in a pitch! Now, I carry a Sawyer mini-filter! I place a filled 1 quart GI canteen with water (preferably hot in real cold weather) in a zip-lock bag under my head as a pillow so if it leaks my sleeping bag doesn't get wet! Almost nothing worse than a wet sleeping bag, especially in cold weather! I wrap a heated rock (not smooth) in a wash cloth and then tie it in a cloth bag and then place it in the toe of my sleeping bag about ten minutes before hitting the sack; when your feet are warm, you'll be warm too! I don't believe rinsing the canteen lid threads before 30 minutes after filling does any good because the iodine tablets haven't had time to kill off the bacteria! I assume that you carry more than one canteen! Where I live (Colorado), I believe a person should carry a minimum of 3 quarts whenever possible as water sources can be a little scarce in places! In cold weather, I always carry a canteen in a inner pocket of my outer coat so no need to invert the canteen!
What a great video, and super message at the end! I really enjoyed this video, Bill. I hardly recognized you with a beard. Lol it looks good. I’m a backpacker and in the backpacking community in cold weather, having your water bottle upside down in your pack while you are hiking, is pretty common. At night we just keep it inside of our bag close to our feet. I have a question about making sure that the threads of your water bottle have disinfected water on them. I’m 67 and grew up swimming in lakes and ponds that were used heavily by cattle. My quandary is, if you couldn’t get one or one drop or two drops of Contaminated water in your mouth, you wouldn’t be able to swim anywhere in the United States. Like the stream that you got your water from. If it was feeding a lake, would you say that you would not be able to swim in it because while you’re swimming, you’re gonna get drops of water in your mouth. I’m not saying drinking the water, but while swimming you get water in your mouth. I’ve never been sick from swimming and any Lake or pond. I think you have to get enough bugs in you to overwhelm your own immune system. It seems to me, common sense wise, that The amount of contaminants contained in a couple of drops of water wouldn’t be enough to overwhelm your immune system. It’s just a thought. I see lots of people worrying about getting the threads of their water bottle spotlessly clean. Have a blessed week my friend. John.
I was on the canoe trip in high school with some buddies, and I got Giardia I was shitting off the front of the canoe. It was out of control. I’ve never shit so much in my whole life.
I remember waking up to a frozen canteen in the morning and it being 85° F in the afternoon. That's Georgia. I would just sleep with one. I still sleep with a water source to this day and either a Ziploc gallon bag or sturdy plastic widemouth quart bottle when I'm on mission or tramping.
Oh yeah... you've heard the song 'One Night in Bangkok', well for me it was more like 3 days and 3 nights that made this hard man humble. In Bangkok no less. A trick we use winter camping here in Colorado to keep our beers from freezing is to bury them fairly deep in the snow, which will be at or about 32 degrees, as opposed to the presumably much colder air temp.
nytrocircus, Where does the snow get it's heat to be able to remain at 32° ? If the ground is 10° and the air temp drops to zero, will the snow still be 32° ? Curious . . . ☆
Contracted Giardia back in high school. Lost 15 pounds in less than 2 weeks during homecoming. Had to run to the toilet almost every 15-30 minutes. Terrible stuff.
I use stainless steel water bottles that way I can heat up the water and use it as heat having it in jacket or sleeping bag and it keeps from freezing never heard of this tho going try it
Throw the 'stick' already Bill! So that's how you get Riggs to stay in camera view all the time.....Read a comment one time by a guy from Norway commenting on another channel about winter survival. He knew about the 'upside canteen' trick - those silly Norwegians!
He's walking all stealth yet his loud ass dog is running wild. Larping is hella strong these day
Bless your heart
It gets worse! He was even setting up video equipment and talking! I mean its crazy. Everyone knows you don't talk and shoot video when you are trying to ninja, right? smh He shared some good info.
The dog is just showing that it's the Alpha.
The sounds Quadrupeds make while walking is entirely different from those made by bipedal animals.
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Great video Bill. The canteen trick absolutely works! I've used it at Winter Forge and even did a short video featuring it. Other guys have mentioned keeping the canteens inside their sleeping bag at night as well.
Brent the mad larper
Yes
Our Canteen holders were insulated, I never had water freeze even in Alaska at Northern Warfare School (yes I’m Cold War old). If you get the chance to sleep you don’t take off your LBE and your body heat keeps it from freezing. A two qrt makes a great pillow. When you’re moving they are being agitated so they don’t freeze, remember your canteen is either full or empty, sloshing water violates noise discipline SOP.
I think in part to the thickness of American made cold war canteens you can hardly squeeze them in at all , So the type of container is important. The Chinese knock off canteens are thinner and garbage 🗑️. If it doesn't have a united states contract number from the at least 1980s don't buy it.
The reverse waterbottle trick is still used in the British Army. This is why the 1958 Ptn waterbottle is still the issue canteen bottle, there is no "artic" or "cold weather" waterbottle. Another tip is to engineer a duct tape "handle" onto the bottom of your waterbottle, make the loop big enough to accommodate the wearing of gloves and/or mittens , this makes it a lot easier to pull your waterbottle out of the canteen pouch, when you are carrying it reversed. Happy Trails from across the pond.
Think it's coincidence that major cities are near water ways?
For good of my brother Patriots warm next to fire and sleep with it... Let it keep you warm.
Ty for that tip! Always great to hear tips from across the pond😊
@@johndalessandro6433 John , another good tip if you are "winterising" your waterbottle is to add a strong attachment loop to the base of the threads that the bottle top fastens up on. Use bankline or a similar strong cord to create a loop that you can use to attach paracord to, so you can dip your water bottle through a hole in the ice or can use to lower into a stream from the top of an embankment. Obviously give it a good test before going out into the wilds. Lots of folk attach paracord to the bottle top retainer but this can fail when hauling up,a full waterbottle. Happy Trails from across the pond.
Also-one trick we do (in addition to inverting the water bottles) is to heat some water to almost boiling and fill out Nalgene water bottles with it. Screw the tops on good and tight then into a clean hiking sock then they go right into our sleeping bags for the night. Not only does it help keep you warm all night you have a guaranteed thawed coffee water supply in the morning! That warm water bottle at yer feet or between yer thighs (femoral arteries) is a Godsend on those sub-zero nights out in the bush.
Just make sure your bottle doesn’t leak before. I remember using this trick in scouts and one of the boys didn’t tighten the lid all the way… he had a rough night
@@ScottSmith7964 true that my friend! No doubt his friends made "peeing the bed jokes" on him! I'm sure though next time he was more diligent.
it also tries out whatever socks you put over the bottle, mountaineers still use this trick
I made a sleeve out of one of those windshield reflective things( cause I'm too cheap to buy reflective from the big box store lol) . It works great so far. Good for keepin' water cold in warm weather and keepin' water from freezin' in winter. I haven't had it down to sub zero Temps yet,but,like you said keep it close to your body and it should be fine
Good idea! I also made a koozie out of that stuff to keep my freeze dried meals warm while they rehydrated.@@johndalessandro6433
4:30 is the most important part, "Throw the damn stick!" lol
Thinking the same thing , love that dog
Had Giarda twice in my life. First time it resolved itself in a week or so and was not too bad but had gas and the runs. 2nd time was way worse and I had to be evacuated out of the field to base hospital. STOP, LOOK, LISTEN, SMELL. Bill, your looking more like Rigg’s as time goes on buddy.
I think you mean evacuated instead of evaded.
@@slappy8941 thanks for the correction bud. Dam spell check bullshit.
Note to sell... Don't get giardia. Glad you made it through that buddy👍🏼
I love these canteens because I've had them freeze solid while nearly full more times than I can count. And I've had the same three for over a decade now. Never had a failure. That makes them worth their weight in winter.
I don't remember seeing this canteen trick. I always kept at least one in my coat or sleeping bag. In the civilian world before and after my time in the Marines I used the old metal ones with the canteen cup.
I had what I believe was Giardia when I worked as a Wilderness Ranger for the Forest Service in the 70's. It was years later before I knew what the illness maybe was. I was designated Wilderness Area miles from a road in high alpine terrain and off the trail. Great weight loss program by the way. Any time you travel in the backcountry your constant companion is a guy named Murphy.
Ya, i went from a buff 175 to a emaciated 145, in a manner of three weeks do to intestinal parasites. If i hadnt been treated in the hospital, in Da Nang, im sure i would have died.
@@lastfreeamericanrobthanks for your time in Vietnam. I dropped out of ROTC to go enlisted for 2 years when the North Vietnamese were making their big push South. Saigon fell when I was in Marine boot camp. I spent a month as a guard in the Vietnamese/ Cambodian refugee camp at San Onefre Camp Pendlton. I got a good education about the world during those 2 years.
I use the Sawyer Squeeze System or Grayl Filter System and both are great. Out on a daily or sometimes weekend Patrol like hike pending where I go I just take my Grayl, it's simple, I put a bandanna in the opening of the cup and slowly dip it, when it's filled with water I insert the filter cup and slowly push down, pop the lid and I'm drinking water. On some weekends or extended trips I take my Sawyer Squeeze System utilizing it with several of the Cnoc Outdoor water container bags which allows me to make plenty of clean water. I sometimes still take the Grayl along with me just because I feel better having it with me. I have a way to back wash the filter on the Sawyer System not on the Grayl so I keep the Purifier Pills as a back up for if something ever happens to either filter. I only use the Sawyer in winter cause it's easier to keep filter from freezing.
Glad u have your doggie. Hes happy to have you too
I’ve used this for years. I didn’t learn it in the Army, but I learned it from my Army recruiter!
He also introduced me to not only hiking, but hiking in the winter. No doubt, he learned it while in the Army.
Great vid Top!
Adapting well from the Pacific Northwest to the south eastern interior!!
Enjoying it Keith!
Thanks, Bill I haven't seen nor heard of anyone doing that trixk in a long time. I was shown by my Dad in the 70s how to do that and it does work. He learned it from his cold weather training in Alaska while in the Army.
You can also burry your water bottles in the snow if you have some. Water will freeze under the snow but it takes way longer.
bushnut,
I've had so call survival experts say something to the affect of " ...water freezes at 32° degrees, so ice won't get colder than 32°... [ 0°C ] ".
Hard to comprehend . . .
☆
Def works brother good stuff I've done this when I was I. Germany in the 80s I just did a 5 mile ruck over the weekend in -5 degrees my ruck is my patrol pack 25 lbs
I’m a British army reservist, we have not been taught that trick. Thank you Sir for the knowledge.
Another great tip! Thanks, Top!
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Good video. The only thing that I personally have experienced than giardia was leptospirosis. A gift from jungle warfare school in Panama back in 81.
Take my word for it, you don't want either one.
I woke up to -29*C this morning, not including windchill. Even the dog didn't want to spend much time out.
I've had Guardia, half a bottle of Jager Meister helped.
Dang!
Never heard of storing a canteen
Upside down, thanks for the info
never heard of the canteen trick both the inverted and double rinse and I thank you
My favorite videos are when you're in your natural setting sharing wisdom. Funny. You really know you're getting old when the younger folks are making you wiser. Lol😂
Thank you Bill. Didn't know that trick, thanks for sharing. I also like my water not frozen in the morning 😉 Cheers from Germany, Martin 🤜🏻 🤛🏻
So its important to remember that filtration and purification are two separate processes that need to be done for separate reasons
I did enjoy the cold weather water bottle trick though, I will try that out and see how it goes, thanks for the info!
Another little known trick is if you are in the snow, put your water bottles right into the snow and they wont freeze. Snow is 90% air and a good insulator
Great reminder on the freezing and cleaning the threads.
Yep. Also keeping it next to your body works.
Something that I ran into a while back, we pee electrolyte and drink water. That doesn't always end well. Aqua tabs are chlorine, so no help there.
A simple electrolyte is 3 parts sugar to 1 part salt. One teaspoon of that mix per pint. Carry it dry and mix in. It's by no means a complete electrolyte mix but it's pulled me through some long treks. Gatrorade used to make a powdered form that you could use the same way. You may be able to others as well. But if you can't, now you have a basic one that you can make at home.
So, there I was, ranger coming toward me down the trail as I pull out my baggie of powered white stuff. . . 😀
😂😂
Haha. Hope it wasn't cold enough to give you the sniffles.
I used to be a Wilderness Ranger for Forest Service in Eastern Oregon in the 70's after I got out of the Marine Corps where I spent 8 months TAD from Infantry to Camp Guard/MP. I most certainly would have asked how your day was going while watching for an ambush. My Wife and kids think I'm paranoid. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they ain't out to get ya.
I used to be a Wilderness Ranger for Forest Service in Eastern Oregon in the 70's after I got out of the Marine Corps where I spent 8 months TAD from Infantry to Camp Guard/MP. I most certainly would have asked how your day was going while watching for an ambush. My Wife and kids think I'm paranoid. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they ain't out to get ya.
Just because I posted twice doesn't mean that make the habit of repeating myself.
I was shocked to finally see someone demo how to fill there water container properly. It always killed me seeing supposed experts, including Bear Grylls doing wrong and many other YT channels. I caught your (stop, look, listen) during your creep demo. I learned the up side canteen trick from my gramps, he was a WW1 and WW2 vet.
THERE water container? 😂😂😂
WHERE water container? 😂😂😂
@@slappy8941 Your comment is spot-on.
Definitely have iodine tabs in winter as your filter could freeze and become useless.
Top, thanks again for the great lesson about the canteen. The high for the day here was 19. Even with two years in Korea and another two in Wyoming during the Cold War, I never learned this.
In extreme cold, one can carry their canteen on the inside of their jacket in a pocket. Many good parkas as made with this in mind. In addition, carry canteens upside down on long movements as water can freeze when moving or sleeping with LBE on (tactical). Last, I prefer a steel one quart or aluminum civilian bc they can be put into ashes or a fire to heat up or boil water whereas the plastics cannot.
Heard of this in the Marine Corps. Also kept them in our sleeping bags at night.
Never heard of the upside down trick on the canteen.
Neat trick
I always appreciate the knowledge you give us. This water trick was something I had never thought about. Through your and others videos and guidance in the community, I've learned a great wealth of information to add to my own. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Keeping your canteen upside down in snow also works at camp. As does slipping the canteen between jacket and blouse to keep it from freezing while you are wearing your belt and suspenders kit on patrol. Also during cold weather slipping your spent mags between Jacket and blouse while having your belt and suspenders kit on also works better than a dump pouch..
Cool, maybe we should make the pouches to hold the bottle upside-down during winter setup. 👍🤔
Winter training at Ft. Drum NY in 1979. A long time gone. . Enjoy your videos.
At about the 7:50 mark you were chillin and asked about the acronym. I’ve learned it as SLLS or a “seals” halt. Stop, Look, Listen, Smell.
This may work well because of the shape of the canteen or even the material but I tried this once with a stainless tubular canteen and it cracked the seem as the ice expanded. Thanks for sharing the cool tricks.
As kids we always drank from the streams that 'looked' clean with no probs. I will tell you from experience that a stream with a dead deer in it looks just as clean.....😂😂
I note Rigs was paying attention when you were purifying the water!
I like the way your dog backs up and keeps a safe distance when you are explaining something😉
Riggs is a ham most of the time.
@@STOKERMATIC Better be safe than sorry 😀
It's a dog...it's still working out why you sit there talking to yourself all the time 😂
I heard about this trick many years ago (RUclips?) , use it all the time during winter hiking since then. I believe the acronym was SLLS - stop, look around, listen, smell.
What a good dog/partner ! He is tuned to you!
Giardia gave me the water shits for three days, I lost 25 lbs(I am not a heavy man to begin with) and was so dehydrated by the experience that I stooped to drinking scalding hot water because I couldn't purify it fast enough.
Yes, have had giardia and lived to tell about it! Actually was not that bad, just felt like a gut punch for a few weeks till I figured out what the problem was. (was a bit of diarrhea involved as well) Good old Adirondack lakes and streams to blame and my steripen that apparently did not do the job as advertised.... Also-awesome pup you got there my friend! I am on #4 GSD myself.
Thank you for this video. That trick works. I do not remember where, when, or from whom I learned it; it was many years ago. All I can say is, it really does work.
I like to fill my canteen with boiling water, wrap it in a scarf, and keep it in my sleeping bag at night as a "heater." (My canteen seals quite well and reliably.)
All good comments here. Im stoked to read them! I been away for yer channel for a bit, been busy but sure good ta see ya again! GOD BLESS Brother! I dig the beard also, i got one goin' myself. Alot more grey though lol
That beard is feathered and lethal!
It’s as lethal as a knife hand! Hope all is well amigo, and the new gig going good! No doubt it’s a good fit for ya, teaching is in your soul. 👊
Great Video Bill, during winter survival in finland, with finish military in 2013, thay learned me this trick. Allso keeping a bottle up side down in your pack and by exream cold on your boddy under your shirt. Allso making fire with cartridge poeder and a iron wire. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Outstanding video! Thanks again for bringing us another one drive on !
Back when I was living in the wilderness all the water was so clean you never even thought of a water filter but now days when ever I go into the woods I always take a water filter and water perfection tablets, even if I only plan to be out there for a day. And a small fire kit I made that fits in my pocket.
You know, a lot of people aclimate to drinking creek water. I guess once your bowels get used to it.
canadian here , if your plastic canteen freezes overnight put a chemical hand warmer in the bottom of the pouch and the canteen in top of the hand warmer. that'll thaw it out.
In the rain 🌧️ when a deer 🦌 or other desired animal is moving, when it shakes the water off it's back it's almost white and gives them away and they do that more often in heavyer raining. When you're senses are bombarded by noise in the rain 🌧️ , sight becomes key 🗝️ , looking up scanning while checking for tracks.
Nice piece of information there.Thanks for the wisdom shared.Great Video.
Great videography and water quality technique. And the wise words during and in the end of footage! Subscribed!!🔥🔥🔥😎😎😎
Good talk. The last half is probably more important than the first, though it's all generally important to know and practice.
Great tip within this video. Cheers from an Aussie vet.
You're awesome. This is a great video.
Any medicinal plant videos ?
Thanks for the reminder.
Learned this trick in my sons’ Boy Scout Troop during winter camp outs.
How did you tie your shemagh?
Do as the Romans did, dig 2 foot deep hole, ground is 7-8C° good winter or summer
I always watched my dog , they would smell someone first, hear someone first. Especially a growl , even in the rain and nosies going on they can see things and movement before i could detect anything, they stop and listen 👂 to and will be directly looking in the direction they heard or smell something, extra sensory detection ! Keeping clothes rotated from a bag with green pine needles helps with scent and not being detected with animals and humans and provides a fresh woody scent that is natural.
Great video. I've not needed to do it, but I've seen this technique from Andrew on Ranger Survival and Field Craft.
You have a well trained dog. I see very few trained to that level. First time I've seen that trick for keeping the water in a liquid state in the morning.
I had maleria in 2001 at Naminian police special field force training at a place called Ondangwa.
2 weeks down without hospital treatment.
I felt like I was dying every day bro.
No, didn't know that trick. Used to have a metal canteen with the boiling water last thing at night, wrap some cloth around it and it went in the sleeping bag, you have your clean water for the AM and a warm sleeping bag. Your trick would be much better in a cold camp situation, good stuff Bill!!!
I winter camp in Michigan this is how I always do my canteen when not moving
I had the "GIs" (either what you called giardia, or maybe it was dysentery ) in the Army, from eating off a dirty fork.
Dysentery is chronic diarrhea, and giardia is a microbe.
Good video- hydration is important in cold weather. I remember getting issued the old arctic canteens when I was up in Alaska years ago and they and other old school issue items were part of inspections during PLDC (Primary Leadership Development Course) which was 30 days course and you marched everywhere, lots of D&C back when the Army was not woke. The arctic canteens worked well during guard duty when it was very cold. Do troops do guard duty anymore?
I had an uncle who fought in Korea during the winter. He said they tied both canteens together hung them across their shoulders and tucked them under their armpits to keep them from freezing. You have to put them under your cold weather coat close to your body but not on the skin for it to work.
Riggs such a cool dog😊
He’s my pal!
God bless brother from Canada eh! Great video respect
Looks like a nice place.....Kind of looks like some of places I've lived in.
Canadian armed forces ( CAF ) taught me that trick, we also Barry our canteens in the snow , mostly the Blk; water Jerry cans cover with snow.
New Subscriber. Keep the videos coming
Good video! I don't believe it makes a difference which direction the opening of your canteen points as the air escaping creates a vacuum that sucks in water! I used to place a folded piece of coffee filter over the opening to keep out debris, but you could use the end of your shemagh in a pitch! Now, I carry a Sawyer mini-filter! I place a filled 1 quart GI canteen with water (preferably hot in real cold weather) in a zip-lock bag under my head as a pillow so if it leaks my sleeping bag doesn't get wet! Almost nothing worse than a wet sleeping bag, especially in cold weather! I wrap a heated rock (not smooth) in a wash cloth and then tie it in a cloth bag and then place it in the toe of my sleeping bag about ten minutes before hitting the sack; when your feet are warm, you'll be warm too! I don't believe rinsing the canteen lid threads before 30 minutes after filling does any good because the iodine tablets haven't had time to kill off the bacteria! I assume that you carry more than one canteen! Where I live (Colorado), I believe a person should carry a minimum of 3 quarts whenever possible as water sources can be a little scarce in places! In cold weather, I always carry a canteen in a inner pocket of my outer coat so no need to invert the canteen!
I’ve never heard about that technique! Thanks!
I'll be 100% honest I never knew this trick. My leaders always told me to tuck it under your armpits when sleeping or at an lp/op.
Bill , "Hydration discipline" always carry a full container of water when ever possible.
What a great video, and super message at the end! I really enjoyed this video, Bill. I hardly recognized you with a beard. Lol it looks good. I’m a backpacker and in the backpacking community in cold weather, having your water bottle upside down in your pack while you are hiking, is pretty common. At night we just keep it inside of our bag close to our feet.
I have a question about making sure that the threads of your water bottle have disinfected water on them. I’m 67 and grew up swimming in lakes and ponds that were used heavily by cattle. My quandary is, if you couldn’t get one or one drop or two drops of Contaminated water in your mouth, you wouldn’t be able to swim anywhere in the United States. Like the stream that you got your water from. If it was feeding a lake, would you say that you would not be able to swim in it because while you’re swimming, you’re gonna get drops of water in your mouth. I’m not saying drinking the water, but while swimming you get water in your mouth. I’ve never been sick from swimming and any Lake or pond. I think you have to get enough bugs in you to overwhelm your own immune system. It seems to me, common sense wise, that The amount of contaminants contained in a couple of drops of water wouldn’t be enough to overwhelm your immune system. It’s just a thought. I see lots of people worrying about getting the threads of their water bottle spotlessly clean. Have a blessed week my friend. John.
It’s an attention to detail thing tbh. Never been overly concerned about it.
Thank you, Stoker!
What backpack is that ? Thanks.
He said it's made by tactical tailor to some you was asking who made it.
Great video! Thank you for the trick. 🇨🇦.
Yes, I was in during the 80's, we were shown that by an army ranger..
Thanks Bill, please keep the tips coming!
I was on the canoe trip in high school with some buddies, and I got Giardia I was shitting off the front of the canoe. It was out of control. I’ve never shit so much in my whole life.
I remember waking up to a frozen canteen in the morning and it being 85° F in the afternoon. That's Georgia. I would just sleep with one. I still sleep with a water source to this day and either a Ziploc gallon bag or sturdy plastic widemouth quart bottle when I'm on mission or tramping.
Oh yeah... you've heard the song 'One Night in Bangkok', well for me it was more like 3 days and 3 nights that made this hard man humble. In Bangkok no less.
A trick we use winter camping here in Colorado to keep our beers from freezing is to bury them fairly deep in the snow, which will be at or about 32 degrees, as opposed to the presumably much colder air temp.
nytrocircus,
Where does the snow get it's heat to be able to remain at 32° ?
If the ground is 10° and the air temp drops to zero, will the snow still be 32° ? Curious . . .
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The ground itself and the snow just above it are often warmer than the air temperature, @@fjb4932.
Wow, I learned something new
Subbed from Jason’s channel
Love your dog I am GSD all the way
Contracted Giardia back in high school. Lost 15 pounds in less than 2 weeks during homecoming. Had to run to the toilet almost every 15-30 minutes. Terrible stuff.
Amen. That loud crunching make the enemy think you are eating check cereal for breakfast. LARP techniques are unknown to most people? Yup yup!
Thank you.
Learned that in 2001 army infantry if we didn’t do that in the winter field problems our platoon daddy would smoke the hell out of us 😂
I use stainless steel water bottles that way I can heat up the water and use it as heat having it in jacket or sleeping bag and it keeps from freezing never heard of this tho going try it
Thank you. I knew that in principal, you're a guiding light
I was truly expecting you to just snuggle with Riggs. That's a pretty solid winter survival trick, I'd think........maybe not, not sure.
Quick apple quick walks. And so on. Still not as bad as food poisoning. Nice to have charcoal around for that.
Really great video old school grunt
Throw the 'stick' already Bill! So that's how you get Riggs to stay in camera view all the time.....Read a comment one time by a guy from Norway commenting on another channel about winter survival. He knew about the 'upside canteen' trick - those silly Norwegians!