DIY High Performance Smoke Device

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
  • Instructions for making a high performance canister-style smoke device that dumps white smoke for 3 1/2 minutes. Be advised there are better formulas throughout my channel. Especially TPA formulas.
    **Kits for making 50 homemade pull-ring igniters are for sale at www.inventionincarnate.com
    _______________________________________________****EDIT/Update: . After months of R&D I created a two-volume series that encompasses EVERYTHING. Here’s the link for Volume 1: High Performance Smoke Devices | Volume 1: Ignitions
    • Building High Performa... ****
    Here's a final product of my R&D: • TPA Smoke Grenades, Bl...
    White smoke is ideal for concealment because it reflects the most visible light.
    The video link for the ignition system will be created soon, subscribe for that update.
    After testing and further research I came up with a superior ring- pull ignition system, here is that video link: • DIY High Performance R...
    If you want to see the SHTF version of an ignition system made from readily available materials: • SHTF Ignition Cups for...
    Composition Ratio:
    6 parts Potassium Nitrate
    4 parts Powdered Sugar
    3 parts mineral oil
    #diy#airsoft #paintball #smokebombs #smokegrenade #fireworks #homemade #survival
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  • @matthewcorrea4278
    @matthewcorrea4278 2 месяца назад +63

    This is the best video on the internet

  • @ryanmckeever7530
    @ryanmckeever7530 4 месяца назад +318

    Videos like this is why i used to come to RUclips in the first place.

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 3 месяца назад

      Unfortunately now it's full of garbage rules, not a free platform for freedom of information anymore .

    • @Pronounlol
      @Pronounlol 2 месяца назад +1

      Me too. It’s a shame they censor a lot of this stuff.

  • @BuckF0eJiden
    @BuckF0eJiden 4 месяца назад +278

    Try adding a little sulfur to your mix.
    You're essentially making black powder with sugar instead of charcoal, but the chemistry is the same. Sulfur lowers the ignition point, and increases your burn rate, up to a certain point. You can get sulfur at any store like Lowe's in lawn & garden.

    • @jtcustomknives
      @jtcustomknives 4 месяца назад +39

      Sulphur would create a faster burning smoke device and he wants a slower device.

    • @BuckF0eJiden
      @BuckF0eJiden 4 месяца назад +34

      @@jtcustomknives he was wanting more of an initial smoke plume. Increasing the burn rate is the best way to do that. 🤷‍♂️

    • @jtcustomknives
      @jtcustomknives 4 месяца назад +35

      @@BuckF0eJiden that would be from a faster ignition not faster burn rate. This coukd be achieved by creating a center hallow core and adding a priming mixture into this section so it lights it much faster.

    • @desmondblack5339
      @desmondblack5339 4 месяца назад +10

      Amazon sells 99.8% pure sulfur for chemistry.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +20

      @@jtcustomknives word. My issue was the oil permeation into the primer comp, initially I used 50/50 potassium nitrate sucrose as a primer in center, however, it didn’t store well. It’s already burning hot enough, I’d add magnesium bicarbonate before sulfur.
      I’m revamping mix using potassium chlorate for oxidizer

  • @lukearts2954
    @lukearts2954 4 месяца назад +242

    I really don't want to be the Safety Susan on the block, but I have some personal experience to share that you might want to consider.
    You often hear rotary tools and gloves don't go together. I learnt that the hard way in EXACTLY the same situation as you put yourself in for this video: using a disc on an angle grinder while holding the object you're grinding in your hand. And just like you, I used heavy duty leather gloves... The edge of the glove barely touched the disc, and it got pulled in, resulting in a deep gash in my finger. Just that fraction of a second was enough to cut the flesh down to the bone. "Luckily" it was the side of my thumb, right next to the fingernail, where no important muscles or tendons pass. And luckily my reflex pulled away in the right direction so that it didn't cut any deeper. There was also barely any blood because the speed burnt all the flesh and vessels shut. You can imagine that it could have very easily been a lot worse.
    So message to you, or to anyone who turns to RUclips videos to learn DIY practices: whenever working with rotary tools, use thin latex gloves, or no gloves at all. It's better to have a burn or a splinter or a dirty hand, than having only half a hand.
    Or like one of my best youth buddies always said: better having one bird in your hand, than no hand.

    • @rohawaha
      @rohawaha 4 месяца назад +31

      I recently took the hand grinder safety course for a welding class , the photo's of grinder accidents at the end will set anyone straight. fingers cut off , wires from wire wheels buried in eyeballs . pieces of cut off wheels stuck in the forehead and eye. 6 inch long cuts to the bone of the arm . Your point is valid and well taken .

    • @milesrost6674
      @milesrost6674 4 месяца назад +4

      appreciate ya

    • @robertlennihan3113
      @robertlennihan3113 4 месяца назад +4

      👍👍 thanks

    • @niccosaur7778
      @niccosaur7778 4 месяца назад +6

      As someone who uses a grinder every day for the last 20 years I would NEVER recommend NOT wearing leather gloves with any disk OTHER than a wire wheel DO NOT wear gloves with a wire wheel but be attentive but please please wear gloves for ALL other wheels

    • @lukearts2954
      @lukearts2954 4 месяца назад +13

      @@niccosaur7778 sorry to break it to you, but having 20 years of sheer luck does not exempt you from accidents. My accident was NOT a wire wheel. It was just a regular metal grinding disc. There's a fiber glass mesh in it to hold the abrasive and it must have been one of those poking out that pulled my glove in. My reason for wearing gloves was so that I wouldn't burn myself holding the item (which was stupid, because one should always just clamp it down and have both hands on the grinder, especially the high rpm grinder I was using - the gyroscopy on the thing is bananas), and perhaps I thought that I would be safer somehow.
      Give me the reasoning why you think you need leather gloves and what they are protecting against.

  • @josephwilliams1915
    @josephwilliams1915 4 месяца назад +88

    Since we're all here for similar reasons. Just wanted to throw out that those paper match books you can get from the gas station can be turned into priming agent for reloading ammo
    Powderize all the sulfur match heads, and scrape off the red phos from the strip. Mix VERY carefully, and you can make around 50 primers.
    Not sure if the youtube video is up, but a guy reloaded some 9mm ammo and even used spent primers and loaded them up with the matchbook priming agent. Seemed like he was shooting normal ammo

    • @stephensumpter5311
      @stephensumpter5311 4 месяца назад

      It was an old The King of Random video but the original creator of that page died and the video seems gone now

    • @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor
      @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor 3 месяца назад

      Alternatively, you can use primers to activate smoke bombs. Better yet, get primer compound and use it to make a easy ignition system.

  • @Joe_Brown99
    @Joe_Brown99 4 месяца назад +8

    This would have been a hoot back when we played unsanctioned paintball games!

  • @billypoe3703
    @billypoe3703 2 месяца назад +7

    3 minutes can create a lot of hope.

  • @tomtruesdale6901
    @tomtruesdale6901 4 месяца назад +555

    If your girl friend will not let you use her toy, use a detail sander without sandpaper on it to vibrate the can.

    • @jec020468
      @jec020468 4 месяца назад +4

      Would love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation, "Honey, an I borrow your vibratory? I'm about to shoot a video..."

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +45

      Bahahah!

    • @glbaker5595
      @glbaker5595 4 месяца назад +19

      A couple of months ago when the Chinese were come to see how their boy was handling their country California the federal government said that smoke bombs were illegal or something like that I didn't hear the whole story I just heard a little bit of it but can anyone tell me what the real scoop is on. I would appreciate it and thank you for the update

    • @MrFarmerfran00
      @MrFarmerfran00 4 месяца назад +14

      Thank you. Having a hard time figuring out how I was going to explain that purchase.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 4 месяца назад +12

      ​@@glbaker5595 they've always been restricted based on whether or not there was a delay mechanism. You could have grenade style smoke bombs as long as they started smoking as soon as the mechanism activated.
      I've not seen anything about the new version other than "smoke grenades a now illegal"
      There's no definition of what constitutes a smoke grenade and exactly where the line is now drawn.
      The strictest reading would outlaw even the classic match lit smoke bombs as the basest definition would be "hand throwable pyrotechnic or explosive devise"
      Personally I think they were just restating current law in such a manner as to make it sound more restrictive than it is for the benefit of foreign vistors

  • @CaptainRon1913
    @CaptainRon1913 4 месяца назад +48

    Made a huge one with my son. Lit it off in our back yard of the neighborhood. A massive amount of smoke bellowing up out of the neighborhood. It's a wonder nobody called the FD

  • @paramotorhead6623
    @paramotorhead6623 4 месяца назад +44

    By far the best smoke grenade I’ve seen on RUclips, thanks!

  • @ljaysperspective1775
    @ljaysperspective1775 4 месяца назад +133

    This type of science project would definitely have contributed to keeping me in school 😂😂😂 fun to watch, awesome video thx for sharing 👍

    • @visamedic
      @visamedic 4 месяца назад +1

      It would have definitely got me kicked out sooner 😂😅🤣🥲🥹

    • @ljaysperspective1775
      @ljaysperspective1775 4 месяца назад

      @visamedic 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, I can see all kinds of hell taking place.

    • @visamedic
      @visamedic 4 месяца назад

      @@ljaysperspective1775 Yeah. Let’s just say I didn’t graduate in the conventional sense. 😂😅🤣

    • @ljaysperspective1775
      @ljaysperspective1775 4 месяца назад

      @@visamedic No kidding 🤣👍

  • @reluctantlemming
    @reluctantlemming Месяц назад +3

    I subscribed when the vibrator came out. I'm all for finding alternate uses for common household tools!

  • @wijpke
    @wijpke 4 месяца назад +16

    Smoke grenades are very underrated in terms of a gunfight to me it is the best way to disappear when you are pinned down under cover when people are shooting at you😊

  • @abraxas9340
    @abraxas9340 4 месяца назад +23

    Just to let you know, I've heard that superglue applied onto cotton can supposedly cause fire. I've put super glue on cotton before myself and it began to produce smoke. I don't know why it does that, but I've seen enough that it'd make me a little apprehensive when doing it with something like that in my hands. Otherwise, this is a great video and would love to see more of your designs

    • @Jack-Tactical
      @Jack-Tactical Месяц назад +2

      Superglue creates heat when curing and thinner superglued create more heat. Cotton allows the glue to wick out and cure even faster. Cotton also has a relatively low ignition point. That said, I’ve never actually seen it start a fire.
      Using anything besides “extra thin” should prevent it from happening, and for his purposes medium probably works better anyways.

  • @bluewinterwolf
    @bluewinterwolf 4 месяца назад +16

    You can get individual stretchy pouches that conform to different grenade sizes, same as you used to get with universal phone pouches back in the day, can't remember the name for the stretchy part but rubber string is used. Also, if your going to this much effort to make HMSG's for say Airsoft/Paintball, (considering how expensive that can be), you might as well pay someone with a sewing machine to make your pouches for you and / or a pouch bag speciffically for the HMSG's. Alternatively, you could get them to make a HMSG belt like you would have for shotgun carts but instead be big enough for HMSG's and can also add in the feature of having the belt hold removable pouches if you wanted to move them to a Molle vest or just not carry as many and not carry the belt. If you know someone with a sewing machine, all you would really need to pa for is material which they could most likely get cheap for you and then just give em a bit extra money for their time.
    Edit: Just remember, not all Airsoft/Paintball arenas allow HMSG's or Smoke Grenades in general due to insurance or safety policy or both so always check with the event organiser before going or before taking your SG's on the field.
    (HMSG = Home Made Smoke Grenades)

  • @BuckF0eJiden
    @BuckF0eJiden 4 месяца назад +67

    Also, molding a hole down the center of your fuel will increase your burn rate too. You'll want just the tip of your igniter to touch your fuel.
    Both that, and adding sulfur should increase your initial smoke volume and decrease the overall burn time.

    • @CallMeUbba
      @CallMeUbba 4 месяца назад +15

      Just the tip and only for a minute. Got it 👍

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 4 месяца назад +1

      If you want to *really* increase the burn rate mold you smoke mix into several hollow rods. I do this by mixing small amounts and putting it on wires to harden.

    • @OFFCODEV2
      @OFFCODEV2 4 месяца назад

      Shutup an make your video coach quarterback

    • @ArcaneTinker
      @ArcaneTinker 4 месяца назад +2

      What if you stabbed about 6 generic crayons into the compound like birthday candles before pouring the top layer of plaster? You can either pull them out or maybe they would just burn out and contribute to the overall smoke output as well as blocking the mineral oil from pooling?

    • @luckyomen
      @luckyomen 4 месяца назад +1

      The issue is the excess heat can touch it off and make it into something more dangerous than a smoke generator. not intended. Smoke generators that you can use in most places without risk seems to be the goal. Even this safer version probably shouldn't be used inside or in dry weather. a forest fire will definitely ruin airsoft fun.

  • @visamedic
    @visamedic 4 месяца назад +42

    I like that’s there’s a gas can within a few feet of where youre testing it. Really cool deal. I’ve messed with smoke grenades for years. Love having a huge area of smoke when you set off those strobe type fireworks. This is by far the coolest video I’ve seen. Gonna have to try and make a few for the 4th. 😁👍

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +20

      I know, the gas can is real bad. I thought about lying to everyone and saying it was full of water and it was my 🧯. But no, I was really that unaware😵‍💫

    • @orionphoenix8918
      @orionphoenix8918 3 месяца назад

      😂 insert Ralph Wiggum voice (oh no im in danger) 😂😂​@InventionIncarnate

  • @DDowling06
    @DDowling06 4 месяца назад +3

    Also, cricket vinyl cut circles work well for sealing the vent ports. Cut, sticks on and then burns off quickly when initiated.

  • @101stgrunt6
    @101stgrunt6 4 месяца назад +27

    You Sir are an American patriot! Thank you for doing all the leg work and experimenting. I laughed when you said "i did this -and it exploded, then i did that - and it exploded"

  • @vohawk
    @vohawk 3 месяца назад +4

    When grinding explosive/volatile/flammable materials, often just keeping it damp with water will prevent ignition. The result can then simply be set out to dry afterward.

  • @JamStph
    @JamStph 2 месяца назад +2

    Zahn cup is the word you were looking for, for testing viscosity. Great video.

  • @Thecarcissist12
    @Thecarcissist12 4 месяца назад +10

    Bold of you to assume most guys making home made smoke grenades are going to have a girl

  • @phillip6083
    @phillip6083 4 месяца назад +9

    Here's a fun upgrade.
    Use nilereds method of extracting capsaicin from peppers, add the concentrated oil to your smoke bombs...
    I'm planning to grow reapers this spring..

    • @neilhightower2270
      @neilhightower2270 3 месяца назад +1

      I tried something similar, with store bought extract and basically had no effect.

    • @phillip6083
      @phillip6083 3 месяца назад

      @@neilhightower2270 extract capsaicin from peppers.
      It vaporizes when heated.

    • @nickcole4517
      @nickcole4517 16 дней назад

      Doesn't heat destroy the capsaicin

    • @phillip6083
      @phillip6083 16 дней назад

      @@nickcole4517 have you ever fried peppers?

    • @neilhightower2270
      @neilhightower2270 16 дней назад +1

      @phillip6083 thats not the same level of heat this is throwing out. But I tried and it didn't work.

  • @glennturner4807
    @glennturner4807 2 месяца назад +1

    Your vibe reminds me of doing Geoteck Slope Indication testing on roads. We used to tape vibrating Love Eggs to the gauges so their needles wouldn't stick and give false readings...LOL

  • @Mattys556
    @Mattys556 4 месяца назад +29

    Awesome video! Getting all the materials to make my first one.
    Looking forward to the next video

  • @Subgunman
    @Subgunman 4 месяца назад +4

    Get yourself some disposable pastry bags. You can use one to fill the mixture into the can and another bag to add the final topping of plaster.

  • @ghostedyoutuber263
    @ghostedyoutuber263 4 месяца назад +16

    I like the fact that it is NOT spewing sparks. GJ!

    • @gaiusoctavian8278
      @gaiusoctavian8278 4 месяца назад +2

      It would not supposed to, he made a smoke grenade not a thermite incendiary device which you could do by adding magnesium or shaved aluminum.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you

  • @jamesgreen2
    @jamesgreen2 4 месяца назад +13

    I think you did an awesome job and well explained.

  • @topfeedcoco
    @topfeedcoco 4 месяца назад +8

    Tech Ingredients is a rad channel, God bless the both of ya.

  • @viewatyourownrisk
    @viewatyourownrisk 4 месяца назад +37

    Thanks for the video. And a big shout out to Tech Ingredients. That guy is awesome
    I wonder what the difference between the wax and the mineral oil is. I have used the wax version with powdered ingredients and didn't experience any of the issues you described. I did add about 10% wax by weight, in order to slow down the reaction and it produced a TON of thick white smoke.

    • @lukearts2954
      @lukearts2954 4 месяца назад +4

      I think using oil instead of parafin makes it easier to properly mix it beforehand, keeping the whole thing more homogenous during the burn. And if you have to heat up the parafin for the initial mix, I'd say I don't like heating things up that are intended to make a self-sustaining burn, even if it's at a much lower temperature than the ignition temperature. If you want to see how crazy parafin can behave, make a pyramid of lit tea lights 3 levels high (so 10 tea lights in total) in the middle of a large fire resistant surface, perhaps for demonstration, put a wooden board under the tealights. Sit back and enjoy the show. It'll start slow, but give it a few minutes.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +6

      @@lukearts2954 I’m doing that, it sounds awesome!

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +4

      I wonder if I kept the heat on the melted paraffin too long. I think if I shut off the heat, then added powdered ingredients to cool the wax, it may work better.

    • @viewatyourownrisk
      @viewatyourownrisk 4 месяца назад +4

      @@InventionIncarnate The way that I did it, for what it's worth, was to melt the wax at a low temperature and then slow stir in the ingredients. Which were already throughly blended.
      Once it was all mixed I'd stir for a minute or two longer and then put the mix in the container.
      Once in the container, stir every once in a while which will prevent the solids from sinking to the bottom. Once the consistency is like glue paste, a 1/2" dowel was inserted in the center.
      After solidification was complete the top was covered in armstrong's putty and when that was mostly set the dowel removed. The whole in the middle was filled with a 50/50 mix of powdered sugar and kno3 with a fuse. The top was sealed with a melted together 50/50 mix.
      an older experiment, but pretty consistent with the results of the final product.
      ruclips.net/video/_1K-ZI_xJSo/видео.html

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +2

      @@viewatyourownrisk dude! That was awesome!!! At around 1:47 your device started pulsing, that’s the inconsistency I’m referring too. However, I think that I’d trade that for the shelf life and durability offered by paraffin. I had a number of paraffin smokes burn only partially. What did you use as your potassium nitrate source and powdered sugar or granulated?

  • @julienciampanelli3149
    @julienciampanelli3149 4 месяца назад +1

    At work they changed brand of mineral oil a while ago and the new drums of oil came with the label "smoke oil" cause it is actually the same as the oil used for airplanes to make the smoke trails.
    Maybe you should look into that kind of mineral oil?

  • @calvinquallss4905
    @calvinquallss4905 4 месяца назад +6

    Excellent video. Thank you very much for putting out this creative work. I look forward to more videos like this

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for your comment. Subscribe (if you haven’t already) for more fun!

  • @MickeyMetalmjl
    @MickeyMetalmjl 4 месяца назад +7

    would you consider using a sieve or tea strainer to mix the sugar and potassium nitrate. it does great to mix powders well.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +6

      Good idea, screening is much better than shaking around in a bag like a dumbass

  • @L0wSkiller
    @L0wSkiller 4 месяца назад +1

    Clicked on this video purely because i ruined one of my grandparents pans with this and wanted to see if it was made out of potassium nitrate (more or less to make sure my long term memory works lol), but I'm really excited to see the mineral oil addition! It wasn't in the recipe i found so it wasnt quite as pronounced, so this is cool to see and good to know for the future!
    Haven't watched the video through yet, but i remember having it fill a toilet paper roll, and making a pull-pin with strikers and matches 😂 😂
    those were the days man...

  • @convictednotconvinced
    @convictednotconvinced 4 месяца назад +1

    I experimented with the Tech Ingredients formulation with 2 observations: burn rates fluctuated despite thorough mixing and grinding, and they all produced a fuckton of smoke. Controlling heat and back pressure could get tricky with some of the designs chuffing like a rocket engine. I was also able to to use as much as 14 parts wax.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      I noticed that my paraffin blends performed better in narrower vessels. Like coors light screw-top aluminum cans.

  • @aivarasdarulis
    @aivarasdarulis 2 месяца назад +3

    My girlfriend would be pissed off if I use her magic wand for chemistry stuff. It is bad enough I screwed up numerous coffee grinders.

  • @rikflare7970
    @rikflare7970 4 месяца назад +5

    Finally I can make a smoke grenade like Mcgyver would , child hood dream achievement unlocked lol👍 my kids are gonna love this.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +2

      Haha YES! Man I loved that show MacGyver. Check out the ignition system video I’m uploading in a couple hours. It’s a significantly easier and waterproof design

  • @scienceMicroguy77
    @scienceMicroguy77 4 месяца назад

    That is a great reaction and if you can speed it up about 400% so that you can eject all of that volume of smoke in 1/4 of the time then you will have something that burns for about 30 seconds and that will be approaching a military smoke grenade but the reaction has to speed up so the fog is more dense because the military smoke grenade can pump out so much smoke you even with a pretty good wind you cannot see through it.

    • @krisgibbon2199
      @krisgibbon2199 4 месяца назад

      The military uses a phosphorus compound for their smoke grenades. The resulting smoke produces phosphoric acid on contact with water, so it can be pretty irritating to the eyes and lungs. Using the materials he had here, he needs to be careful with increasing the burn rate. Get it going too hot, and you may accidentally start some fires.

  • @pierreaston7709
    @pierreaston7709 4 месяца назад

    Ive been doing the rocket candy mix in cardboard tubes this whole time because its quick and easy but I always have to worry about starting a fire. This will help quite a bit.

  • @Richarddragon22
    @Richarddragon22 4 месяца назад +3

    It may be easier to put the final bit of plater in if you treat it cake icing and pipe it in with a sandwich bag with the corner cut to ease it in the top. less mess and faster.

  • @phillip6083
    @phillip6083 4 месяца назад +9

    A few tips for more smoke faster...
    Surface area.
    Your granulated mix detonated because there was...
    1 too much surface area.
    2 to robust a reaction.
    You can either add an inert compound(sand) to slow the reaction down or use a compound that burns slower and cooler.
    And instead of granules try casting a hollow compound.this can greatly increase surface area.
    Also....
    Add some paraffin, just enough to make the mix solid at room temp.
    And your whole mix may mold better warmed up.try putting it in a ziploc and warming in hot water.

  • @molonlabe5090
    @molonlabe5090 Месяц назад +1

    Dude this is waaay more effective than most potassium nitrate-based smoke devises on YT.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  Месяц назад +1

      Absolutely agree. But you’ve got to see this one! TPA Smoke Grenades, Blows Commercial Out of the Water!
      ruclips.net/video/Slwq-01ngVY/видео.html

    • @molonlabe5090
      @molonlabe5090 Месяц назад

      @@InventionIncarnate Ordinance Labs also has a fairly good recipe. Been a minute since I watched that one, they go over the recipe and making smoke candy and everything

  • @followme8238
    @followme8238 3 месяца назад

    Nice idea. I used an old 12v cell phone charger to avoid the circuit board. I use the on/off switch on a power strip instead of an inline switch.
    I melted two holes near the top and ran a bent up piece of metal coat hanger through it to act as a handle to suspend it while it’s runn

  • @andrewh1600
    @andrewh1600 4 месяца назад +4

    Cool idea, great video, have you considered a cake piping tool to inject your composition into the container? Thank you for sharing!

  • @chthulu27
    @chthulu27 4 месяца назад +13

    I'm not sure if there was too much wind in the area where you tested your smoke grenade, but it seems likeit would be more suitable as a signal device than for the purposes of providing cover/concealment.

    • @ezrabraman6437
      @ezrabraman6437 4 месяца назад +3

      It would be a bitch indoors though

    • @TM450FI
      @TM450FI 4 месяца назад +3

      Well i Guess you would want multiple of them outsider anyways

    • @chthulu27
      @chthulu27 4 месяца назад

      @@ezrabraman6437 , I suspect that is very true.

    • @chthulu27
      @chthulu27 4 месяца назад

      @@TM450FI , that's fair. And maybe you can tweak the mixture to get a higher yield.

    • @dannyguitardrums
      @dannyguitardrums 4 месяца назад

      @@chthulu27 what ingredient would achive more of a smoke for cover??

  • @joshp1486
    @joshp1486 Месяц назад +1

    I'm not trying to get in your business and someone else may have already mentioned it but 10x powdered sugar has cornstarch in it to keep it from caking so grinding your own out of table sugar may change your burn for the better. Those fuses are on point though. Great video.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  Месяц назад +1

      You’re right, 3% cornstarch! This device is child’s play compared to this one: TPA Smoke Grenades, Blows Commercial Out of the Water!
      ruclips.net/video/Slwq-01ngVY/видео.html
      Also, if you subscribe, please take a screenshot because RUclips is unsubscribing my subs. I’ve had like 20 people tell me. Yt customer service is just gaslighting me asking for screenshots from subs acting like they don’t do it all the time

  • @frozennorth6527
    @frozennorth6527 4 месяца назад +2

    Maybe put a wax paper barrier between the baffles to help weather proof it and should pop when there is enough pressure. Have you tried adding any dyes?

  • @robertbanks8870
    @robertbanks8870 4 месяца назад +8

    I have used wax instead of oil. It works very good.. just add a bit of water to your sugar and potassium, gently heat on hotplate with wax and mixing until dough like. Press in container. Should harden as it cools.

    • @chuckbailey6835
      @chuckbailey6835 4 месяца назад

      Is that similar to how they make c4

    • @TM450FI
      @TM450FI 4 месяца назад

      ​@@chuckbailey6835 yeah, i think you Need to add sulphur or something like that

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland 4 месяца назад +4

    Seems like it would be more convenient to just have a dowel or something in there, an arbor, to maintain a channel in the center for the ignitor which you can then just remove the dowel and screw in after the plaster is set in the headspace.

    • @chrisripley154
      @chrisripley154 4 месяца назад

      That's how we used to make homemade rocket engines back in the day

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      Just received a bunch of delrin rods, you are correct

  • @karnesmotorsports
    @karnesmotorsports 2 месяца назад

    You can use RIT dye for different colors. Made some to smoke out ground hogs years ago. Caramelized the sugar and stump remover. This method looks easier.

  • @SixTough
    @SixTough 4 месяца назад +1

    Solid design and well done

  • @kylefraga5550
    @kylefraga5550 4 месяца назад +4

    Love the gas can by the test at the end

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I noticed that too and meant to note in video. Terrible awareness on my part

    • @kylefraga5550
      @kylefraga5550 4 месяца назад +1

      @@InventionIncarnate hey have you checked out the reloadable spoon style canisters from pace defense? I picked some up and I like them.

    • @kenmccabe6701
      @kenmccabe6701 4 месяца назад

      I saw those, I wish they weren't so expensive. Do they work well? ​@kylefraga5550

    • @kylefraga5550
      @kylefraga5550 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kenmccabe6701 they do, I use the Paraffin mix recipe for them, works well. They use federal spp, to set off 3 gr of smokeless powder, which ignites the fuse. The guy Scott is cool.

  • @larrymcgarage2152
    @larrymcgarage2152 4 месяца назад +4

    Have you thought about adding color to the smoke?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +3

      You bet! I was going to make that as a different video. These screening smoke grenades use potassium nitrate as an oxidizer which burns too hot for solvent dyes. They decompose and the smoke 💨 is dull and ugly. Potassium Chlorate is the preferred oxidizer for colored smokes because it burns much cooler and disperses vibrant color especially when the reaction is further cooled via bicarbonates.
      Military colored smokes use potassium chlorate, sugar, magnesium bicarbonate, sodium bicarbonate, and solvent dyes and some colors have a solvent dye decomposition ratio of as low as 3%
      If I just added that dye to this composition, nearly all of it would decompose on its way out of the canister.

  • @ChainsawFPV
    @ChainsawFPV 4 месяца назад +1

    Serious question, would a model rocket electric fuse ignite the mixture instead of a pull ring? The reason I ask, I fly RC planes, Electric ones, not gas. So I can not do a "smoke show" ( done by injecting oil into the hot exhaust of the engine). There are not a lot of options for smoke for a electric plane. This would solve that problem. This material can be put into a different container, (long skinny tube would work great) that would be ziptied to plane. But would be better to have a electric ignition source so could ignite when flying.

  • @faustteufel9727
    @faustteufel9727 4 месяца назад +1

    At 20:03 you could use a piping bag to fill with plaster of Paris for the head space you mentioned. It's easier and less messy than using a spoon.

  • @bluewinterwolf
    @bluewinterwolf 4 месяца назад +3

    You can also add food colouring to your mixture to get different colours if you wanna use Smoke Grenade for SOS signals/Search & Rescue Landing Signals if you get into trouble while hiking or in remote areas and can let emergency services know what colour your smoke is so they know its you and not someone else playing around if your in an Airsoft/Paintball field. For example, if a few of you have white smoke grenades and each of you carry a red one then people will know that the red one means your in trouble/injured.

    • @printingwithpeek4897
      @printingwithpeek4897 4 месяца назад

      Bullshit. This myth has been busted time and time again food coloring evaporates because it's water based. You saw an early 2000s video and repeated the misinformation

  • @chrissapp9243
    @chrissapp9243 4 месяца назад +2

    Wonder what would happen if you added capsacin or cayenne to the oil first...🤔

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +3

      You’d get a spicy meatball

    • @marcisaacs9407
      @marcisaacs9407 4 месяца назад +1

      I wonder if it would burn eyes or throat or lungs mmmmmmmm

  • @stevebricks
    @stevebricks Месяц назад +1

    This is cool and thank you.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  Месяц назад

      This one’s even cooler! :ruclips.net/video/Slwq-01ngVY/видео.htmlsi=g19Nr_FsNL7g4pjy

  • @GenX-Grampa
    @GenX-Grampa 4 месяца назад +2

    When things go sideways, I want you on my team!!

  • @ErrorOptik
    @ErrorOptik 4 месяца назад +5

    How does the fuse hold up to being tossed on hard surfaces? Also, is it safe to have that burning off next to your gas can? 😅

  • @660woodworkingandreno8
    @660woodworkingandreno8 4 месяца назад +4

    You know the feds are writing down all our names just for watching this 😂😂😂😂

    • @stevewheatley243
      @stevewheatley243 3 месяца назад

      No doubt about it.

    • @LostCloudx4
      @LostCloudx4 3 месяца назад

      Good, they should be SCARED

    • @12A4-30-TranHungThanh
      @12A4-30-TranHungThanh 3 месяца назад

      why would they bother with smoke bomb, it harmless

    • @LostCloudx4
      @LostCloudx4 3 месяца назад

      @@12A4-30-TranHungThanh lol, in Australia you go to jail for having a picture of a Swastika let alone chemicals and experiments

    • @12A4-30-TranHungThanh
      @12A4-30-TranHungThanh 3 месяца назад +1

      @@LostCloudx4 you live in Australia? My condolence

  • @mcg9573
    @mcg9573 4 месяца назад

    We used an old 90's recipe, that was probably back from the 60's or 70's without mineral oil, so it'd be interesting to compare. We just poured it into toilet paper tubes and aluminum cans.
    We also would heat the mixture, which is dangerous, large gallon batches would ignite lol, so I'd never do it indoors, but it solidifies quickly and really binds the oxidizer to the fuel.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      Was it like a candy rocket formula?

    • @michaellarocca4879
      @michaellarocca4879 4 месяца назад

      ​@@InventionIncarnate pretty much take that kno3 and sugar mix you made, pour it into a pan on low heat. When it starts to look like thin peanut butter, pour it into your casing. I once filled a campbells chunky can with it, using match heads embedded in the top and a match striker glued to a popsicle stick for an ignitor.
      It smoked out an entire block for about 3 minutes, but it was DEFINITELY a fire hazard.

  • @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor
    @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor 3 месяца назад

    Skylighter sells paper tubes/rolls that insulate the reaction enough you could hold a proper mix during the entire burn. And you can use their tools (from Skylighter) to make both end caps as well as 'nozzles' with things like kitty litter or a similar material.

  • @stephencaparelli7733
    @stephencaparelli7733 4 месяца назад +5

    one of the first rules of fireworks DO NOT GRIND OXIDIZER AND FUEL IN THE SAME GRINDER!

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, agreed. Where in the video do I do that? I only grind up the Potassium Nitrate alone

  • @dragonhealer7588
    @dragonhealer7588 4 месяца назад +14

    So sad that ATF just put consumer use or possession of smoke or flash on the forbidden list. Freedom is getting harder to find these days in the land of the free😕

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      I talk about that letter here: ruclips.net/video/i-C-OTpzuCg/видео.html&si=EhMHWRGCFUD36gH8 the atf lists specific products in Table 1. Watch that link and tell me if I’m misinterpreting something. Also, in that same video description I link the letter. Can you check that out, and tell me your interpretation?

    • @jtcustomknives
      @jtcustomknives 4 месяца назад +4

      Thy listed the ignition sources as controlled not the device them selves. But a bug manufacture of these that sell to airsoft and paint ball told them to go get F and is still selling them.

    • @therealmichaelnelson
      @therealmichaelnelson 4 месяца назад +2

      And the funny thing is they probably don't even know why to use smoke

    • @vwmuscle
      @vwmuscle 2 месяца назад +4

      They don’t want their own tactics used against them when they’re overstepping as usual

    • @majinwookie
      @majinwookie 2 месяца назад +2

      There is no freedom

  • @sonicsphincter6
    @sonicsphincter6 3 месяца назад

    Fun fact that I'm not sure has been mentioned: liquefaction using vibration is also used in concrete pouring to aid in flow and to help clear the chute so it can be moved.

  • @cyprio_
    @cyprio_ 4 месяца назад

    The difference between light and heavy mineral oil is that the light variant contains more cyclic (saturated) molecules that prevent the consistent build-up of the palisade. Light mineral oil is less occlusive than heavy mineral oil

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you. I’m going to go look up “palisade” now.

  • @dwmaddawgs
    @dwmaddawgs 4 месяца назад +3

    Confidence can get you in big trouble. I've seen smoke grenades go frag in a split second, and those were military ones.
    Be careful 🎉

  • @plasmaman9592
    @plasmaman9592 4 месяца назад

    AVE showed an industrial pneumatic vibrater that is put on dump trucks and similar things. It was $30-$50 it has a Ball bearing that spins around a circle track and can reach high speeds. I put 1 on my plow truck salt spreader and it makes wet sand/salt mix flow like a liquid and is so powerful that when I hooked it up to my shop air @175 psi through a 1/2" hose and the truck was empty it shook big chunks of rust loose. I bet it left on for a day or 2 the truck would disassemble anything not isolated With a rubber motor/transmission/ cab mount. Anyway, long story short, I've used it to do things like you're doing with that adult toy just by settingbut I know I'm on the bed of the truck. Turn it on and it shakes stuff to Settle down to the can and get air bubbles out

  • @shovelchop81bikeralex52
    @shovelchop81bikeralex52 3 месяца назад

    LOL! I use beard trimmers or hair clippers as a source of vibration when casting moulds to get rid of air bubbles. I can see why the rubber on a vibrator would be preferable on hard surfaces (trying not to smirk..) but my moulds are silicone etc.. great idea!

  • @mvtorigian4364
    @mvtorigian4364 27 дней назад

    There's cornstarch in powdered sugar. I don't know what that does for the chemistry or resulting heat but have you experimented with super fine sugar. It's a product I didn't learn of until professional work with confections

  • @MasterlKenobi
    @MasterlKenobi 2 месяца назад

    I feel like I'm gonna get put on a watchlist for watching this, but thank you for this information.

  • @DirtyDovi
    @DirtyDovi 3 месяца назад

    2:00 ish: Securing your ignition - Maybe try sliding a few o-rings onto the ign tube from the bottom up..
    That'll create a nice seal and friction to keep the lid/ign tube together Even when jostled around

  • @sunnindawg
    @sunnindawg 2 месяца назад

    Excellent

  • @LigmaBawlsYoutube
    @LigmaBawlsYoutube 4 месяца назад +1

    Next week's episode: DIY Tactical Nuclear Bomb

  • @twestgard2
    @twestgard2 4 месяца назад

    That is a TON of smoke. Nice.

  • @larrymarron1170
    @larrymarron1170 2 месяца назад

    Tech ingredients is awesome.❤

  • @luizfelipefracassochavesba5921
    @luizfelipefracassochavesba5921 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video, I'll have to ask. The plaster on top is for mechanical integrity?
    And, have you tried using plastic straws on the top plaster while it's still wet to prevent the drilling?
    Also, you can pre-drilm the top cover, without the ignition in the way.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      the plaster is to provide an additional baffle, the more circuitous (I hope that’s a word) the path out, the less sparks fly

  • @stalker6617
    @stalker6617 4 месяца назад

    Use silicone instead of sugar to make it waterproof and shelfstable, also increases burn rate

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      Get outta here! Like caulking gun silicone? Type 1 or type 2, hopefully you don’t mean silica.

    • @stalker6617
      @stalker6617 4 месяца назад

      @@InventionIncarnate caulking gun silicone, not sure what type is the best but I saw it used in diy rockets where it replaces the sugar.

  • @watchguy7986
    @watchguy7986 4 месяца назад

    Damn that is awesome! Been fooling around with actual surplus grenade fuses and could make a primer detonated one too

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      My first igniter was actually a spring loaded .22 cal perimeter alarm (ramset powder charge) which I cut open and emptied everything but the primer on the rim. It ignited the visco beautifully and quietly, but was too expensive in larger batches

  • @nastyconasta
    @nastyconasta 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video and the best smoke video I’ve seen to date!!!

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      thanks man, I screenshot that, gunna frame that comment

  • @scotthaddad563
    @scotthaddad563 4 месяца назад

    I remember back in the seventies I could buy surplus smoke grenades and parachute flairs at the local surplus store. They cost about twelve bucks each and were lots of fun. Can’t find that stuff today I bet.

    • @luvmechanix
      @luvmechanix 3 месяца назад +1

      HC/zinc smoke candles are still available from plumbing contractors and have the same composition as what you are describing. The zinc smoke doesn't rise- it sits on the deck because it is cold smoke.
      They use it to find where sewer gas is getting into dwellings.

  • @minuteofcan
    @minuteofcan 4 месяца назад

    Also if you add just a little bit of charcoal. It will burn faster and you will be able to tell when it is mixed thoroughly due to the color change.

  • @LunchBoxxin
    @LunchBoxxin 2 месяца назад

    I buy some from a company called "Defense technology", they work really well, metal bodied, pin, ect. Think they sell them as "tactical pocket smoke grenade" or "pocket tactical smoke grenade".

  • @stormtrooperhoe9877
    @stormtrooperhoe9877 3 месяца назад

    I added chalk to make different colors. But the best is to cook some dark soda until it is a tat paste and it was some really good dark smoke

  • @jungleghostsurvival
    @jungleghostsurvival 4 месяца назад

    Great invention!!! Good job!!!

  • @guloguloguy
    @guloguloguy 4 месяца назад +2

    .....WOW!!!!!!!! THAT GAS CAN, (AT ABOUT 28:20+...), ...SHOWS THE LEVEL OF.... "LIVING DANGEROUSLY"!!!...

  • @E85_STI
    @E85_STI Месяц назад

    I like this but I make legendary smoke mix but with wax and it makes a lot of smoke like this but I’m curious about this mineral oil as I have an automotive smoke machine and it uses baby oil or mineral oil to make smoke. I do use a different formula than tech does but I do make his color smoke with excellent results. It’s on my channel but I do make a lot of whistle and black powder rockets.

  • @ripcurlreadiness8777
    @ripcurlreadiness8777 3 месяца назад

    You should check out the ones I made and how thick the smoke was especially with how small the container was. To make it thick smoke I added Parafin wax to the sugar & stump remover mix. Try it. I think you will be impressed. It also slows the burn. Maybe try adding some mineral oil to my wax mixture…. It might be even better.
    I also have one I haven’t tested yet that I added chilli pepper to in order to see if I could add a mace / CS gas type irritant to the smoke so if your enemy tries to advance through your smoke barrier it will make their eyes water and irritate their lungs like mace so they can’t see or breath well wich would take them out of the fight ??
    Using the wax will slow the rate of burn so you get a longer thicker smoke.

  • @wayne-oo
    @wayne-oo Месяц назад +1

    I wonder what adding a chunk of black rubber to it will do ?

  • @J30YLK
    @J30YLK 4 месяца назад

    I had no idea you could use Mineral Oil and mix it without heating.
    I've made a few over the years but mix the KNO3 and sugar in a pan heated up to caramelise the sugar...then scoop into a container as normal

  • @Rifleman1964
    @Rifleman1964 2 месяца назад

    Im thinking standard old DOT break fluid instead of the oil. Makes a ton of smoke on tires at the drag strip

  • @PavewayJDAM
    @PavewayJDAM 17 дней назад

    And this month's most watch by the ATF video award goes to....

  • @DDowling06
    @DDowling06 4 месяца назад +2

    I am on the MK14 version of my tests with making something tactical and at the ready. I may have to post my first video ever just to share my design. With some info you’ve shared I believe we may have a solid solution anyone can use….

    • @MC_SCRIBE
      @MC_SCRIBE 4 месяца назад +2

      Please share friend. 😎

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад

      Hell yeah, can you add the video link to this comment when you do?

    • @DDowling06
      @DDowling06 3 месяца назад

      I’m grabbing mineral oil for tests tonight. I’m dying to see in comparison how it performs. :-) MK14 test tonight! I’ll film.

  • @jujjuj7676
    @jujjuj7676 4 месяца назад

    Just curious, what your best guess on the shelf life on that mix contraption?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +6

      Great point! And likely the most important factor in all of this. There are two main concerns 1) the penetration of liquid through the igniter and 2) pooling of oil into the bottom of the baffle holes and through plaster and can seamsI’m testing 8-12 in storage for a video where we make a massive wall through the forest. Also, more likely a better idea is for me to come up with a solid formula with an indefinite shelf life. I’m working on one right now using titanium dioxide to test its ability to screen against thermal imaging. A majority of my endeavors are failures that don’t make it to video, but I will definitely update when I figure it out

  • @user-zh1xj7my1h
    @user-zh1xj7my1h 3 месяца назад

    The reason lactose:chlorate is used in colored dye type smoke devices is because lactose is a LOW FLAME TEMPERATURE FUEL, those dyes need a LOW TEMPERATURE of combustion to vaporize without pyrolyzing them (breaking the chemicals down by excessive heat). They even add carbonates such as baking soda to lower the flame temperature even more. You are boiling some fog oil, mineral oil is a lot more durable vs. beeaking down from heat than those complex organic dye molecules.

  • @revdavidpeters
    @revdavidpeters 4 месяца назад

    Could a more traditional fuse that you light with an open flame work with this design? Or do they burn too quickly?

  • @PatriotsArk
    @PatriotsArk 4 месяца назад +1

    Could you use food coloring or dye with the mixture to get color effects?
    Great video,Keepem rolling

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +1

      The coloring agents with this mix mostly decompose at the high temps that potassium nitrate create. I’m working on a potassium chlorate+carbonate+solvent dye/titanium dioxide blend that burns cool enough to keep the brilliant colors intact

  • @michaelhorton7684
    @michaelhorton7684 4 месяца назад

    Excellent and informative video. But where’s the separate video for the ignition?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +3

      Thank you, I’m working on that now. Will be up in a couple days and I’ll link in the description

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  4 месяца назад +2

      Here you go: DIY High Performance Ring-Pull Ignition System
      ruclips.net/video/i-C-OTpzuCg/видео.html

  • @mmodavi771
    @mmodavi771 10 дней назад

    Where can you get the igniter snd other parts?