Building High Performance Smoke Devices | Volume 3: A Screening Device
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- A comprehensive guide to building extremely high performance smoke generating devices for visual screening and signaling.
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There are two main objectives of this particular series. The first is to build from scratch the ultimate handheld smoke device because it's cool af. The second, and more important, is learning a certain set of skills. Do not do anything stupid and follow all federal, state, and local laws.
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This video is Volume 3 of a multi-volume series and focuses primarily on the the building of the actual device and the best, IMO, screening formula out there.
The Smoke Mix Formula (credit to an idol, Joe Domanico):
-54 parts TPA
-14 parts Sucrose
-6 parts Magnesium Carbonate
-23 parts Potassium Chlorate
Volume I:
-Part 1: Raw Chemistry (From Scratch)
-Part 2: Building the Igniters (this part also serves as the instructions for the igniter kit I have for sale at InventionIncarnate.com)
-Part 3: How to integrate the igniters into legal smoke devices
Volume 2 How to make extremely accurate time delay fuses
Volume 3: Putting it all together and creating the ultimate screen obscuration device using TPA (Terepthalic Acid) for lowest toxicity and highest optical density.
Volume 4: Colored Devices
**If you DON'T feel like doing chemistry:
I sell a 50 count pull-ignition kit for $40 TOTAL (free shipping, with fuels and oxidizers separated to avoid HAZ-MAT Shipping ) on my website www.InventionIncarnate.com all profit goes towards my channel. And yes it's via Venmo because I'm not paying 6% credit card fees when my total profit per kit is $7. I live in a van down by the river, just trust me.
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**If you DO feel like doing chemistry (or want to steal my invention that I stole fair and square from someone else) here's the formula:
To make approx 100 of these igniters you will want a total dry mass of 14g for the powdered ignition mixture, and a total dry mass of approx. 3g for the powdered striker mixture. All ingredients should be fine powders before mixing.
TEST 2-3 OF THESE IGNITERS AT A TIME BEFORE MAKING THE WHOLE BATCH. I'D RECOMMEND NOT ADDING ALL OF THE POTASSIUM CHLORATE AT ONCE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP THE IGNITION REACTION MILD-MODERATE NOT CRAZY. FILL CUPS TO 40% DO NOT OVER-FILL. I LIKE TO USE A CHEAP PAINTBRUSH TO JUST BRUSH THE CUPS. IF the igniters aren't working, it is because they aren't dry.
The Ignition Mixture Ratio:
Potassium Chlorate: 56.2%
Antimony Trisulfide: 24.6%
Sulfer: 9%
Ground Glass: 10.2%
Magnesium Carbonate: Add 1% of whatever total mass you mix
The Striker Mixture Ratio:
Red Phosphorus: 33%
Ground Glass: 33%
Sulfer: 33%
Add clear PVA glue (Elmers school glue) to the respective consistencies:
Ignition Mixture: Just thicker than pancake batter.
Striker Mixture: Just thinner than pancake batter.
Please leave comment on your experience, for the algorithm and my feedback
Skylighter.com sent me the Antimony Trisulfide and 1/4" Chinese time fuse for these videos.
Here's the link for the 1/4" Chinese Time Fuse: www.skylighter.com/products/c...
Here's link for Antimony Trisulfide: www.skylighter.com/products/a...
Here's link for Potassium Chlorate: www.skylighter.com/products/p...
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00:00 Test 1
01:14 Intro
01:42 The Plaster Base
02:36 Smoke Mix Formula
05:15 Compacting the Mix
07:01 Explanation of Device Design
08:03 Installation of Igniter and Fuse
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Thanks for these videos, super interesting stuff.
The final design that you showed here, would igniting it from the middle and having holes at the top and bottom produce a working device?
The intended goal being a device that would dump a very large volume of smoke very quickly.
Thanks
The assumption behind that hypothesis is that exit orifice size directly correlates with burn time. Ironically, it’s the opposite. Here’s a chart that shows the relationship between exit orifice, burn time, and smoke efficiency www.imghippo.com/i/M6yRd1716122561.jpg
Part of the reason, is that back pressure can expedite the reaction inside the vessel. The cost is a drop in efficiency.
It’s a real challenge, that I’ve been obsessing over for months
@@InventionIncarnate How is efficiency being calculated? I want to make sure I'm looking at the data correctly.
@@viewatyourownrisk honestly, that is a great question. I wondered the same thing as I was sending that to you. I’m grateful to see someone who thinks critically. As i don’t see it often anymore.
I looked at that again and asked wtf? What constitutes 100% and how is it measured? Is it by perceived cloud volume or optical density?
I think that the only thing we can assume is that those numbers are relative only to each other.
That photo is from a dvd I have on a talk from Joe damanico from 20years ago--it’s very difficult to find info about this stuff, as you already know. Particularly, peer-reviewed data lol.
Im going to pin this and reply with an unlisted video link, it may take some time
@@InventionIncarnatehaving not yet watched the video, he's my gut level take on those hole sizes and what to do with them.
I think it's a ratio of presumed burn area to exit aperture. So whatever the burning area was that produced those numbers would be in ratio to them.
Them there is a bunch of pressure calculations, which I don't know without some research. But my gut says, FWIW, that using a linear relationship would be a good starting point.
Again, ALL the above was gut level.
@@InventionIncarnate for that volume, you need to make a dual vent version of this to immediately fog an area
Please don’t ever stop your videos. They are the best.
2:50 it’s “Practically Non-Toxic”
Read that on a product & became my favorite term.
Very informative and easy to understand, saw other of your videos montsh ago if i recall correctly.
maybe the desing can be improved imitating the effect seen in these on fashion rocket stoves, or is the desired effect is a semi-combustion for the smoke to be made?
reading the comments maybe a way to measuring the data could be a thermal camera to look at the temperature of the reaction or weighting the burnt remains. anyways great video and content!! keep up the good work.
Loving this series, but I have just a question: is shipping from your website available outside north america? Thanks for sharing your knowledge, really appreciated
Sure, shoot me an email at inventionincarnate@gmail.com with your address
Use a massager to help settle the powder. The vibration removes voids very quickly.
Yes, liquefaction. Too much work to find a 240v outlet for my wife’s magic wand
Jk, I’m divorced.
VENMO is difficult for me to use.... alternate pay type please
20 seconds in the video - i cant see shiat! and thats a compliment! 😂
Fantastic. Thank you. Can you add a color to this compound to have colored smoke?
Absolutely, the formulation is a bit different per color, because some colors look more vibrant with a white base etc. I’m working on a colored smoke video, just waiting for replies from some companies for sponsorship. (Looks like I’m probably buying on my own, lol)
You think companies would comp $65 of product for hundreds of referred customers but they’re still slow to respond.
I was genuinely worried they removed it.
Sweet vids buddy. Is that smoke bad to breath in?
Less toxic than nearly all smoke compounds, can’t be good though
@@InventionIncarnate Right on, thanks.
Question. have you ever put the smoke in a hydraulic press? would it make a difference in burn rate?
Be careful Dude..... May do something you don't want.....
Thats mean!!
Do you think soup cans would be able to withstand this pressure? I feel like it'd be easier for me to source those than the cardboard tubes
For some reason this formula always flares up in metal with me. I have no scientific explanation for it.
Sidenote: staples mailing tubes idk if you’ve got one near you though
Does potassium perchlorate,powdered sugar and mineral oil composition for smoke have a critical mass?
Good question. I don’t know. It’s usually potassium nitrate in that mix though.
Just wondering if you ever tried bentonite clay (aka, ground up kitty litter) instead of the plaster? Way faster!
Faster, however, I don’t think it could withstand the pressure at a 3” diameter. It would have to be compressed with a press and it would be more difficult to add reinforcement (ie screws, nails, fasteners) into the side of the canister. However, I don’t doubt that it is possible, and may be better
@@InventionIncarnate worth a test and a possible comparison video? Can get a cheap press from Harbor Freight.
is there a reason that you don't have the igniter embedded inside the tube through the center, and aren't using the dual hole design?
See above answer👆 (or maybe below). There’s only 4 comments so it should be easy to find
@@InventionIncarnate right, so what i'm getting from that is that as you increase the speed that pressure can escape then you reduce the speed that the whole thing dumps the smoke, which makes sense, but could you have half size holes and have two of them, or would that lower the burn speed even faster? would quarter size holes get a similar burn rate in that case?
i also wonder if you could have the igniter in the top, and then have the hole on the bottom and loosely capped to avoid moisture issues
How long does order processing take for the pull string kits?
Done. Tracking number sent via Venmo
I've ordered two at different times. 3-5 days. Just finished second set yesterday. Work as seen.
What do you do for a living? Gotta be a science teacher lol if I had to guess lol
Carpenter haha, though I was a paramedic for 8years before that. Got burnt out
THANK YOU FOR GOOD NEWS ....JUST RECEIVED TODAY..... MAY I SEND YOU MONIES VIA UR PO BOX.... PLEASE..... THANK YOU AGAIN ❤.
I’m gonna have to suck it up and purchase these chemicals. I’ve been getting great results with kno3 and paraffin but nothing like this. The pull strings igniters from the ingredients I purchased from you are fantastic. Have you ever thought about experimenting with fuse assemblies for M18 smokes I have a few I’m gonna tinker around with. As always great video
Thank you, I didn’t reconcile (as in put 2 and 2 together) your YTusername and address when your order came in can you email me your address? inventionincarnate@gmail.com.
To answer your question, yes, just last night it “clicked.” I’ll send you an unlisted link Via email. I’ll be posting a video on that, however, I’m experimenting with a HC composite (hexachloroethane/epoxy -nasty stuff) mix that
I wanted to use with those fuses and it may take a while to fine tune
Those fuse assemblies can be used with the kit ingredients. That is why I add 7 extra grams of ignition comp over what is needed for the 50 igniters. Idk when you ordered though bc I started doing that maybe a month ago.
I’ll be in touch
Sorry just saw this, I’ll send you an email when I get up I work nights so I’m passing out
Ya but where did you get terepthalic acid, did you have to beg one of these chemical suppliers to ship you a sample amount? and did you have to ship to commercial address? NM found some on amazon, does 20 bucks for a lb sound right because that seems ridiculous expensive to me.
That’s terrible! EJC Ventures eBay $50 for 10lbs. And when you get it put your hand in it, then, if you are able to remove your hand, reply on this thread your findings.
It’s the most amazing thing ever, and as expected, whenever I ask anyone to put their hand in my ammo can full of white powder (TPA) they don’t talk to me anymore.
@@InventionIncarnatedo you happen to know were you can get it in smaller amounts? My search is turning up empty. I also understand if 10 pounds is the most practical amount to purchase. Thank you!
@@honeybadger660 I don’t know where to get less than that