Building High Performance Smoke Devices | Volume 3: A Screening Device

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  • Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
  • A comprehensive guide to building extremely high performance smoke generating devices for visual screening and signaling.
    Click here to view more similar content and subscribe: / @inventionincarnate
    There are two main objectives of this particular series. The first is to build from scratch the ultimate handheld smoke device because it's cool af. The second, and more important, is learning a certain set of skills. Do not do anything stupid and follow all federal, state, and local laws.
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    This video is Volume 3 of a multi-volume series and focuses primarily on the the building of the actual device and the best, IMO, screening formula out there.
    The Smoke Mix Formula (credit to an idol, Joe Domanico):
    -54 parts TPA
    -14 parts Sucrose
    -6 parts Magnesium Carbonate
    -23 parts Potassium Chlorate
    Volume I:
    -Part 1: Raw Chemistry (From Scratch)
    -Part 2: Building the Igniters (this part also serves as the instructions for the igniter kit I have for sale at InventionIncarnate.com)
    -Part 3: How to integrate the igniters into legal smoke devices
    Volume 2 How to make extremely accurate time delay fuses
    Volume 3: Putting it all together and creating the ultimate screen obscuration device using TPA (Terepthalic Acid) for lowest toxicity and highest optical density.
    Volume 4: Colored Devices
    **If you DON'T feel like doing chemistry:
    I sell a 50 count pull-ignition kit for $40 TOTAL (free shipping, with fuels and oxidizers separated to avoid HAZ-MAT Shipping ) on my website www.InventionIncarnate.com all profit goes towards my channel. And yes it's via Venmo because I'm not paying 6% credit card fees when my total profit per kit is $7. I live in a van down by the river, just trust me.
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    **If you DO feel like doing chemistry (or want to steal my invention that I stole fair and square from someone else) here's the formula:
    To make approx 100 of these igniters you will want a total dry mass of 14g for the powdered ignition mixture, and a total dry mass of approx. 3g for the powdered striker mixture. All ingredients should be fine powders before mixing.
    TEST 2-3 OF THESE IGNITERS AT A TIME BEFORE MAKING THE WHOLE BATCH. I'D RECOMMEND NOT ADDING ALL OF THE POTASSIUM CHLORATE AT ONCE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP THE IGNITION REACTION MILD-MODERATE NOT CRAZY. FILL CUPS TO 40% DO NOT OVER-FILL. I LIKE TO USE A CHEAP PAINTBRUSH TO JUST BRUSH THE CUPS. IF the igniters aren't working, it is because they aren't dry.
    The Ignition Mixture Ratio:
    Potassium Chlorate: 56.2%
    Antimony Trisulfide: 24.6%
    Sulfer: 9%
    Ground Glass: 10.2%
    Magnesium Carbonate: Add 1% of whatever total mass you mix
    The Striker Mixture Ratio:
    Red Phosphorus: 33%
    Ground Glass: 33%
    Sulfer: 33%
    Add clear PVA glue (Elmers school glue) to the respective consistencies:
    Ignition Mixture: Just thicker than pancake batter.
    Striker Mixture: Just thinner than pancake batter.
    Please leave comment on your experience, for the algorithm and my feedback
    Skylighter.com sent me the Antimony Trisulfide and 1/4" Chinese time fuse for these videos.
    Here's the link for the 1/4" Chinese Time Fuse: www.skylighter.com/products/c...
    Here's link for Antimony Trisulfide: www.skylighter.com/products/a...
    Here's link for Potassium Chlorate: www.skylighter.com/products/p...
    If you're still reading this then Like, Subscribe, and Share this video because it makes me feel cool and popular, and you will learn things.
    00:00 Test 1
    01:14 Intro
    01:42 The Plaster Base
    02:36 Smoke Mix Formula
    05:15 Compacting the Mix
    07:01 Explanation of Device Design
    08:03 Installation of Igniter and Fuse
    #diy#airsoft #paintball #smokebombs #smokegrenade #fireworks #homemade #survival #chemistry #pyro
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Комментарии • 48

  • @viewatyourownrisk
    @viewatyourownrisk 27 дней назад +6

    Thanks for these videos, super interesting stuff.
    The final design that you showed here, would igniting it from the middle and having holes at the top and bottom produce a working device?
    The intended goal being a device that would dump a very large volume of smoke very quickly.
    Thanks

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад +5

      The assumption behind that hypothesis is that exit orifice size directly correlates with burn time. Ironically, it’s the opposite. Here’s a chart that shows the relationship between exit orifice, burn time, and smoke efficiency www.imghippo.com/i/M6yRd1716122561.jpg
      Part of the reason, is that back pressure can expedite the reaction inside the vessel. The cost is a drop in efficiency.
      It’s a real challenge, that I’ve been obsessing over for months

    • @viewatyourownrisk
      @viewatyourownrisk 27 дней назад

      @@InventionIncarnate How is efficiency being calculated? I want to make sure I'm looking at the data correctly.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад +2

      @@viewatyourownrisk honestly, that is a great question. I wondered the same thing as I was sending that to you. I’m grateful to see someone who thinks critically. As i don’t see it often anymore.
      I looked at that again and asked wtf? What constitutes 100% and how is it measured? Is it by perceived cloud volume or optical density?
      I think that the only thing we can assume is that those numbers are relative only to each other.
      That photo is from a dvd I have on a talk from Joe damanico from 20years ago--it’s very difficult to find info about this stuff, as you already know. Particularly, peer-reviewed data lol.
      Im going to pin this and reply with an unlisted video link, it may take some time

    • @viewatyourownrisk
      @viewatyourownrisk 27 дней назад +1

      @@InventionIncarnatehaving not yet watched the video, he's my gut level take on those hole sizes and what to do with them.
      I think it's a ratio of presumed burn area to exit aperture. So whatever the burning area was that produced those numbers would be in ratio to them.
      Them there is a bunch of pressure calculations, which I don't know without some research. But my gut says, FWIW, that using a linear relationship would be a good starting point.
      Again, ALL the above was gut level.

    • @russr
      @russr 25 дней назад

      ​@@InventionIncarnate for that volume, you need to make a dual vent version of this to immediately fog an area

  • @HauntingsbyDesign
    @HauntingsbyDesign 26 дней назад +10

    Please don’t ever stop your videos. They are the best.

  • @NvTwist
    @NvTwist 26 дней назад +2

    2:50 it’s “Practically Non-Toxic”
    Read that on a product & became my favorite term.

  • @nitaicrasemann
    @nitaicrasemann 26 дней назад +1

    Very informative and easy to understand, saw other of your videos montsh ago if i recall correctly.
    maybe the desing can be improved imitating the effect seen in these on fashion rocket stoves, or is the desired effect is a semi-combustion for the smoke to be made?
    reading the comments maybe a way to measuring the data could be a thermal camera to look at the temperature of the reaction or weighting the burnt remains. anyways great video and content!! keep up the good work.

  • @roborbiomarchisio5628
    @roborbiomarchisio5628 12 дней назад

    Loving this series, but I have just a question: is shipping from your website available outside north america? Thanks for sharing your knowledge, really appreciated

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  12 дней назад +1

      Sure, shoot me an email at inventionincarnate@gmail.com with your address

  • @anchopanchorancho
    @anchopanchorancho 25 дней назад +1

    Use a massager to help settle the powder. The vibration removes voids very quickly.

  • @robertnelson1098
    @robertnelson1098 27 дней назад +1

    VENMO is difficult for me to use.... alternate pay type please

  • @cloudpandarism2627
    @cloudpandarism2627 27 дней назад +1

    20 seconds in the video - i cant see shiat! and thats a compliment! 😂

  • @drewcoffey1299
    @drewcoffey1299 27 дней назад

    Fantastic. Thank you. Can you add a color to this compound to have colored smoke?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад +3

      Absolutely, the formulation is a bit different per color, because some colors look more vibrant with a white base etc. I’m working on a colored smoke video, just waiting for replies from some companies for sponsorship. (Looks like I’m probably buying on my own, lol)
      You think companies would comp $65 of product for hundreds of referred customers but they’re still slow to respond.

  • @vinny9988
    @vinny9988 21 день назад

    I was genuinely worried they removed it.

  • @user-ch6um1vn8x
    @user-ch6um1vn8x 26 дней назад

    Sweet vids buddy. Is that smoke bad to breath in?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  26 дней назад +1

      Less toxic than nearly all smoke compounds, can’t be good though

    • @user-ch6um1vn8x
      @user-ch6um1vn8x 26 дней назад

      @@InventionIncarnate Right on, thanks.

  • @barrypayne421
    @barrypayne421 20 дней назад

    Question. have you ever put the smoke in a hydraulic press? would it make a difference in burn rate?

    • @robertnelson1098
      @robertnelson1098 16 дней назад +1

      Be careful Dude..... May do something you don't want.....

  • @ifell3
    @ifell3 24 дня назад

    Thats mean!!

  • @Enderbro3300
    @Enderbro3300 26 дней назад

    Do you think soup cans would be able to withstand this pressure? I feel like it'd be easier for me to source those than the cardboard tubes

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  25 дней назад +1

      For some reason this formula always flares up in metal with me. I have no scientific explanation for it.
      Sidenote: staples mailing tubes idk if you’ve got one near you though

  • @willywonka8376
    @willywonka8376 6 дней назад

    Does potassium perchlorate,powdered sugar and mineral oil composition for smoke have a critical mass?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  6 дней назад

      Good question. I don’t know. It’s usually potassium nitrate in that mix though.

  • @nychillboy8724
    @nychillboy8724 26 дней назад

    Just wondering if you ever tried bentonite clay (aka, ground up kitty litter) instead of the plaster? Way faster!

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  25 дней назад +1

      Faster, however, I don’t think it could withstand the pressure at a 3” diameter. It would have to be compressed with a press and it would be more difficult to add reinforcement (ie screws, nails, fasteners) into the side of the canister. However, I don’t doubt that it is possible, and may be better

    • @nychillboy8724
      @nychillboy8724 25 дней назад

      @@InventionIncarnate worth a test and a possible comparison video? Can get a cheap press from Harbor Freight.

  • @theCrystalWoods.
    @theCrystalWoods. 27 дней назад

    is there a reason that you don't have the igniter embedded inside the tube through the center, and aren't using the dual hole design?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад +2

      See above answer👆 (or maybe below). There’s only 4 comments so it should be easy to find

    • @theCrystalWoods.
      @theCrystalWoods. 27 дней назад

      @@InventionIncarnate right, so what i'm getting from that is that as you increase the speed that pressure can escape then you reduce the speed that the whole thing dumps the smoke, which makes sense, but could you have half size holes and have two of them, or would that lower the burn speed even faster? would quarter size holes get a similar burn rate in that case?
      i also wonder if you could have the igniter in the top, and then have the hole on the bottom and loosely capped to avoid moisture issues

  • @benjaminosborne694
    @benjaminosborne694 26 дней назад

    How long does order processing take for the pull string kits?

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  26 дней назад

      Done. Tracking number sent via Venmo

    • @MrFarmerfran00
      @MrFarmerfran00 26 дней назад

      I've ordered two at different times. 3-5 days. Just finished second set yesterday. Work as seen.

  • @fargoalspach557
    @fargoalspach557 13 дней назад

    What do you do for a living? Gotta be a science teacher lol if I had to guess lol

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  13 дней назад

      Carpenter haha, though I was a paramedic for 8years before that. Got burnt out

  • @robertnelson1098
    @robertnelson1098 16 дней назад +1

    THANK YOU FOR GOOD NEWS ....JUST RECEIVED TODAY..... MAY I SEND YOU MONIES VIA UR PO BOX.... PLEASE..... THANK YOU AGAIN ❤.

  • @Obi_GYN_1kenobi
    @Obi_GYN_1kenobi 27 дней назад

    I’m gonna have to suck it up and purchase these chemicals. I’ve been getting great results with kno3 and paraffin but nothing like this. The pull strings igniters from the ingredients I purchased from you are fantastic. Have you ever thought about experimenting with fuse assemblies for M18 smokes I have a few I’m gonna tinker around with. As always great video

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад

      Thank you, I didn’t reconcile (as in put 2 and 2 together) your YTusername and address when your order came in can you email me your address? inventionincarnate@gmail.com.
      To answer your question, yes, just last night it “clicked.” I’ll send you an unlisted link Via email. I’ll be posting a video on that, however, I’m experimenting with a HC composite (hexachloroethane/epoxy -nasty stuff) mix that
      I wanted to use with those fuses and it may take a while to fine tune
      Those fuse assemblies can be used with the kit ingredients. That is why I add 7 extra grams of ignition comp over what is needed for the 50 igniters. Idk when you ordered though bc I started doing that maybe a month ago.
      I’ll be in touch

    • @Obi_GYN_1kenobi
      @Obi_GYN_1kenobi 26 дней назад

      Sorry just saw this, I’ll send you an email when I get up I work nights so I’m passing out

  • @LupusMechanicus
    @LupusMechanicus 27 дней назад +1

    Ya but where did you get terepthalic acid, did you have to beg one of these chemical suppliers to ship you a sample amount? and did you have to ship to commercial address? NM found some on amazon, does 20 bucks for a lb sound right because that seems ridiculous expensive to me.

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  27 дней назад +3

      That’s terrible! EJC Ventures eBay $50 for 10lbs. And when you get it put your hand in it, then, if you are able to remove your hand, reply on this thread your findings.
      It’s the most amazing thing ever, and as expected, whenever I ask anyone to put their hand in my ammo can full of white powder (TPA) they don’t talk to me anymore.

    • @honeybadger660
      @honeybadger660 22 дня назад

      @@InventionIncarnatedo you happen to know were you can get it in smaller amounts? My search is turning up empty. I also understand if 10 pounds is the most practical amount to purchase. Thank you!

    • @InventionIncarnate
      @InventionIncarnate  22 дня назад

      @@honeybadger660 I don’t know where to get less than that